You go Josh!!! He was my platoon leader when this happened. It was a terrible day to lose him and our beloved senior scout. SSG Harper. I will never forget it.
@Corby Vinson Much love from a fellow Mustang. Mantz is a great guy and was a great XO when he redeployed to our Cobras. RIP SSG Harper and all our other 1-8 brothers.
Vinson mortars are Hung brother. I always loved this guy and envied his leadership style. You guys got a good one. Josh was and is the man. So was Harper. I miss that man everyday
I had a friend, she stood by me in my recovery from child abuse and I remember when I was having a really heavy re-experience during training and she texted me that evening if I was okay and the next time I saw her she asked again and hugged me and I got all warm and all my mental pain sort of went too the background. I was biking home and thought, now I cant kill myself anymore because I am not alone anymore. I wasnt planning on killing myself but that thought was so nice too have. It was so good too finally not be alone anymore. That friend moved away and now has a different life where she is not that present anymore in my life but it meant and still means so much too me I get emotional every time I really think about it. It made me feel worthy of love and human connection again. Ever since I connect better with other people and with dogs. This moment happend after us talking and hanging out for about 8 months and really changed my life around as someone I completely trusted was there in my darkest hour. What he says is true. If you show someone that you are there for them and willing too help them when they are in their darkest hour it can change their life forever. That friendship may have done the same or even more than what 21 months of therapy has done and I am gratefull for it having been in my life every day.
I had a very similar experience, but have never heard anyone else describe it. I was ready to commit suicide though. The way I described it was my spirit and soul had become weary. Over a period of a month or so I had actually begun to feel my spirit moving out of my body little by little. I had a therapist at the time, but we had both been unable to find a way out. I went to his office with what was to be my last visit before I took my life. As we talked he did something I will never forget, he looked deep into my eyes with tears in his and declared I don’t want you to leave. And in that second, my spirit sunk/slammed back into my body. He somehow had pulled me back in. The best way I could describe it to myself was the Huey Lewis song “The Power of Love.” I still was not comfortable in my body, but from than on I knew I couldn’t leave it
Powerful talk. Critical to understand that 19 year olds are confronting monumental moral dilemmas while trying to survive. So glad that this topic is gaining traction in our society.
Just wanted to share that in addition to knowing that you’re not alone, there has been huge strides in understanding and rewiring deep trauma/moral injuries. It’s called somatic experiencing. Peter Levine, Stephen Porges and Diane Poole-Heller are some leaders in the field☮️❤️
Wow what a powerful and important message Josh! Thank you for all you're doing to help remove the stigma and help others overcome their moral injuries.
Yes: he's right: MORAL injuries cut the deepest, far far worse than physical injuries - although of course these need treating in tandem at same time. But why isPTSD recognised but not other types of moral injury = probably far more common? In my own life ('case') the psychological MORAL injuries were caused by CHOICE - and that REPEATED CHOICE hurt/s very very deep: betrayals, lies, cover-ups and prevention of ANY remedial physical & emotional care plus NOT BELIEVING ME = me treated as guilty/greedy for money/making a fuss about nothing (life-threatening severe injuries caused in 2005 in operating theatre in Brighton, UK) then being made to BEG for MY medical information and for the TRUTH for years, ME wrongly branded the guilty one = punished without trial (let alone a FAIR one, equality of arms), immediately. NO ACCESS TO JUSTICE = that's a MEGA moral injury inflicted on so very many people. 'Rights'? Ha ha: only if you can ENFORCE them - which without help (threats, arms, top solicitors, The Law for the elite/governments = using OUR money to protect themselves from us - without our consent) NONE of us can. Of course therapies have their place but MOST IMPORTANT are the BASICS first: safe secure home, 100% health and social care covered, enough money to lIVE on (not just barely survive), inclusion, respect, info and choice, access to politics, education, hobbies & sports, transport... EQUALITY but sometimes we need a bit more or a bit different slice of the pie (resources) for our NEEDS and ABILITIES. PREVENTION is far better than trying to fix people or things which are broken. Might look fixed (and smiley mask on) but always scarred and never the same after, not ever, carry it always... Too much to say, hate typing but talking hard too (my brain injury) and everything relates to everything else. Must stop. Have I got the message over or too scrambled? Any questions = do ask.
@45 fottuto stronzo Thank you - but NO: not a psychiatrist - I make art, am a visual 'artist' (of sorts)! Funny though: at school I thought I'd keep art as a hobby & was going to do Developmental Psychology, luckily I saw sense (only just in time - after 1st year 6th form in UK) & swapped maths for art & then did graphic design. What about you? NHS can be good (paid for through taxes & free at the point of delivery = no insurance papers!) but not when THEY caused our injuries, then all they care about is themselves & their reputations so they lie, deny, cover-up, fake med records & wilfully neglect the injuries they knew they'd caused = extreme cruelty & criminal really. If only they'd been honest & open (as they promise to be but aren't) right at the start; will they learn/change? I sincerely hope so. Best to you.
Understood everything you said and agree 100%. Take care of yourself :). Keeping encouraging thoughts for you not to give up and to keep speaking your truth.
I saw what we did from the top down and it looked a lot like what he describes only I saw what the other side took day-to-day and I can't un look that. Josh that day needed goggles and galoshes. I've seen many days where goggles and galoshes were necessary. - That's moral injury. - WSB
Yes, it only applies to "murder" between your own kind. "God" has waged many wars and ordered the Israelites to kill many times in the Old Testament. I guess it's okay if it's done in the name of His "religion".
Had me until the Reiki part. PTSD is a DSM V diagnosis that can come from moral injury (which is not a DSM diagnosis). So called non-traditional or alternative therapies like Reiki being endorsed in such a high profile way opens the door to untold unproven modalities and experimentation. Folks with these problems are among the most vulnerable people and the wild west approach to assisting them is fraught with problems. Nothing is off the table. Anecdotal accounts of success don't cut it with stakes that are so high.
I am disheartened by this officer's story particularly his comments regarding PTSD emotional distress, resiliency, preventative maintenance (mental health) etc... This officer was relieved of duty for his disregard for fellow injured Soldiers at the Warrior Transition Battalion, FT Riley in 2013. His misconduct was a serious violation of Army Command Policy as determined after a UCMJ hearing with the 1st ID Commanding General in 2013. I was one of many Soldiers disrespected and humiliated by this man during my recovery from my combat injuries and PTSD. My personal opinion is that this was a disgrace to the Army and our fellow Wounded Warriors. CPT Mantz was intentionally destructive to our mental health and our careers in the Army while he was a Commander at the Warrior Transition Battalion Ft Riley, KS. It was humiliatingly apparent that CPT Mantz disrespected Soldier's who were not as resilient as he stated he was.
+paul hogie Thanks for the comment, Paul. I'm sorry you're disheartened and had a negative experience. I have found Josh to be one of the most caring individuals, especially regarding this topic. He's done more than 200 free speaking events (including this TEDx talk), and personally served countless soldiers and veterans who struggle with PTSD. After being friends with him for a few years, I cannot imagine him being "intentionally destructive" to anyone's mental health, or their careers. I do know he experienced compassion fatigue for awhile, due to overextending himself, being on the road for most of the year, feeling burned out. While you may have had a negative experience, consider some compassion. Josh is trying to help. Would you prefer that he do nothing?
your comments are untrue. He never was in disregard of any of his duties. If you have made these allegations you need to contact Josh himself and discuss with him
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You go Josh!!! He was my platoon leader when this happened. It was a terrible day to lose him and our beloved senior scout. SSG Harper. I will never forget it.
@Corby Vinson
Much love from a fellow Mustang. Mantz is a great guy and was a great XO when he redeployed to our Cobras. RIP SSG Harper and all our other 1-8 brothers.
Vinson mortars are
Hung brother. I always loved this guy and envied his leadership style. You guys got a good one. Josh was and is the man. So was Harper. I miss that man everyday
I had a friend, she stood by me in my recovery from child abuse and I remember when I was having a really heavy re-experience during training and she texted me that evening if I was okay and the next time I saw her she asked again and hugged me and I got all warm and all my mental pain sort of went too the background.
I was biking home and thought, now I cant kill myself anymore because I am not alone anymore. I wasnt planning on killing myself but that thought was so nice too have. It was so good too finally not be alone anymore.
That friend moved away and now has a different life where she is not that present anymore in my life but it meant and still means so much too me I get emotional every time I really think about it. It made me feel worthy of love and human connection again. Ever since I connect better with other people and with dogs. This moment happend after us talking and hanging out for about 8 months and really changed my life around as someone I completely trusted was there in my darkest hour.
What he says is true. If you show someone that you are there for them and willing too help them when they are in their darkest hour it can change their life forever. That friendship may have done the same or even more than what 21 months of therapy has done and I am gratefull for it having been in my life every day.
I had a very similar experience, but have never heard anyone else describe it. I was ready to commit suicide though. The way I described it was my spirit and soul had become weary. Over a period of a month or so I had actually begun to feel my spirit moving out of my body little by little. I had a therapist at the time, but we had both been unable to find a way out. I went to his office with what was to be my last visit before I took my life. As we talked he did something I will never forget, he looked deep into my eyes with tears in his and declared I don’t want you to leave. And in that second, my spirit sunk/slammed back into my body. He somehow had pulled me back in.
The best way I could describe it to myself was the Huey Lewis song “The Power of Love.” I still was not comfortable in my body, but from than on I knew I couldn’t leave it
wow.....that is truely touching. ❤ Being wounded like this in life is no joke.
Powerful talk. Critical to understand that 19 year olds are confronting monumental moral dilemmas while trying to survive. So glad that this topic is gaining traction in our society.
Thank you endlessly.
Just wanted to share that in addition to knowing that you’re not alone, there has been huge strides in understanding and rewiring deep trauma/moral injuries. It’s called somatic experiencing. Peter Levine, Stephen Porges and Diane Poole-Heller are some leaders in the field☮️❤️
Lovely to hear your TED talk message, Josh! Look forward to further conversation and connection.
This is incredibly touching
Wow what a powerful and important message Josh! Thank you for all you're doing to help remove the stigma and help others overcome their moral injuries.
Great info. I just have to say that the one person who ‘saved’ me was a counsellor who said ‘I got you’, meant it, and proved it.
Yes: he's right: MORAL injuries cut the deepest, far far worse than physical injuries - although of course these need treating in tandem at same time. But why isPTSD recognised but not other types of moral injury = probably far more common?
In my own life ('case') the psychological MORAL injuries were caused by CHOICE - and that REPEATED CHOICE hurt/s very very deep: betrayals, lies, cover-ups and prevention of ANY remedial physical & emotional care plus NOT BELIEVING ME = me treated as guilty/greedy for money/making a fuss about nothing (life-threatening severe injuries caused in 2005 in operating theatre in Brighton, UK) then being made to BEG for MY medical information and for the TRUTH for years, ME wrongly branded the guilty one = punished without trial (let alone a FAIR one, equality of arms), immediately. NO ACCESS TO JUSTICE = that's a MEGA moral injury inflicted on so very many people. 'Rights'? Ha ha: only if you can ENFORCE them - which without help (threats, arms, top solicitors, The Law for the elite/governments = using OUR money to protect themselves from us - without our consent) NONE of us can.
Of course therapies have their place but MOST IMPORTANT are the BASICS first: safe secure home, 100% health and social care covered, enough money to lIVE on (not just barely survive), inclusion, respect, info and choice, access to politics, education, hobbies & sports, transport... EQUALITY but sometimes we need a bit more or a bit different slice of the pie (resources) for our NEEDS and ABILITIES.
PREVENTION is far better than trying to fix people or things which are broken. Might look fixed (and smiley mask on) but always scarred and never the same after, not ever, carry it always...
Too much to say, hate typing but talking hard too (my brain injury) and everything relates to everything else. Must stop. Have I got the message over or too scrambled?
Any questions = do ask.
@45 fottuto stronzo Thank you - but NO: not a psychiatrist - I make art, am a visual 'artist' (of sorts)! Funny though: at school I thought I'd keep art as a hobby & was going to do Developmental Psychology, luckily I saw sense (only just in time - after 1st year 6th form in UK) & swapped maths for art & then did graphic design. What about you? NHS can be good (paid for through taxes & free at the point of delivery = no insurance papers!) but not when THEY caused our injuries, then all they care about is themselves & their reputations so they lie, deny, cover-up, fake med records & wilfully neglect the injuries they knew they'd caused = extreme cruelty & criminal really. If only they'd been honest & open (as they promise to be but aren't) right at the start; will they learn/change? I sincerely hope so. Best to you.
Understood everything you said and agree 100%. Take care of yourself :). Keeping encouraging thoughts for you not to give up and to keep speaking your truth.
I saw what we did from the top down and it looked a lot like what he describes only I saw what the other side took day-to-day and I can't un look that. Josh that day needed goggles and galoshes. I've seen many days where goggles and galoshes were necessary. - That's moral injury.
- WSB
Thank you
You’re a courageous hero, never forget that ❤️
"Blessed are the peace-makers, since they shall inherit the earth." We were never created to kill one another. "Thou shalt not kill" (10 commandments)
Yes, it only applies to "murder" between your own kind. "God" has waged many wars and ordered the Israelites to kill many times in the Old Testament. I guess it's okay if it's done in the name of His "religion".
"...we combine with all of the emerging modalities...rekkei" .. ok thanks.
💟💛💜💜💛💟
Had me until the Reiki part. PTSD is a DSM V diagnosis that can come from moral injury (which is not a DSM diagnosis). So called non-traditional or alternative therapies like Reiki being endorsed in such a high profile way opens the door to untold unproven modalities and experimentation. Folks with these problems are among the most vulnerable people and the wild west approach to assisting them is fraught with problems. Nothing is off the table. Anecdotal accounts of success don't cut it with stakes that are so high.
I am disheartened by this officer's story particularly his comments regarding PTSD emotional distress, resiliency, preventative maintenance (mental health) etc... This officer was relieved of duty for his disregard for fellow injured Soldiers at the Warrior Transition Battalion, FT Riley in 2013. His misconduct was a serious violation of Army Command Policy as determined after a UCMJ hearing with the 1st ID Commanding General in 2013. I was one of many Soldiers disrespected and humiliated by this man during my recovery from my combat injuries and PTSD. My personal opinion is that this was a disgrace to the Army and our fellow Wounded Warriors. CPT Mantz was intentionally destructive to our mental health and our careers in the Army while he was a Commander at the Warrior Transition Battalion Ft Riley, KS. It was humiliatingly apparent that CPT Mantz disrespected Soldier's who were not as resilient as he stated he was.
+paul hogie Thanks for the comment, Paul. I'm sorry you're disheartened and had a negative experience. I have found Josh to be one of the most caring individuals, especially regarding this topic. He's done more than 200 free speaking events (including this TEDx talk), and personally served countless soldiers and veterans who struggle with PTSD. After being friends with him for a few years, I cannot imagine him being "intentionally destructive" to anyone's mental health, or their careers. I do know he experienced compassion fatigue for awhile, due to overextending himself, being on the road for most of the year, feeling burned out. While you may have had a negative experience, consider some compassion. Josh is trying to help. Would you prefer that he do nothing?
+Charlie Hoehn Thank you so much for this comment! Josh is my half brother and he is truly an amazing person who has inspired me to do many things!
your comments are untrue. He never was in disregard of any of his duties. If you have made these allegations you need to contact Josh himself and discuss with him
Victoria Bruner thanks for saying that!
It’s all garble unless you can give examples. I’m not seeing what he did to harm you. Pts here, just saying...