It's funny how you mentioned that not everybody does video editing. Because after watching tons of reviews and videos on the newest macbook pro it seems like video editing is the sole activity people use these computers for. xD I have my suspicion that the reason is simply because all these reviewers are youtubers and thus take their video editing very seriously.
perfect. reviewers are reviewing for heavy editors or music engineers. i'm a coder and when not coding just an average user. i have a 2012 mb pro, 2015 mb pro and 2020 m1. upgraded the 12 and 15 years ago and with me just typing code 70% of the time i don't really see no difference once they all boot to the desktop. ok ok starting some applications on the 12 can take up to a minute but its not like killing me. anyway my goto daily driver is the 15 since it has a bigger screen. yes the m1 is great but im not all into the hype. it starts programs faster but once i get going typing and clicking around they are all the same with respect to my usage and needs
true that. But again they do video editing isn't it? not only video but music making as well. Need to admit that apple does this better than the others, plus apple will allow you to do that outdoors. Also lets not forget those who work with Xcode.
I was still using a mid 2012 15 inch MBP Retina up until October 2021 when I bought my current 16 inch M1 Pro MBP. The 15 inch still works and am thinking of wiping it and downgrading the OS to High Sierra so I can run some of my old favourite 32 bit games.
I am planning to get the MacBook pro 16 inch 2019 because of boot camp. I majorly spend my time a lot on a web browser for my work and I don't mind many review complaining about the model.
I had the mid 2012 MBP 13 for a while, it was a hobby computer I bought cheap on eBay and heavily upgraded. It worked surprisingly well for day-to-day tasks. My point is that if a persons needs (and expectations) are low many of the older MBPs will do a competent job when priced right.
I actually use a MBP 2013 for my study, Running under Ventura, it’s work great for light task! I buy a new MBP last week, but it’s surprisingly a good computer (Even after 10 years with the last ventura update)
I have a 2011 Mac Book pro with 16gb of Ram and a ssd and it runs flawlessly. i dont pretend to buy a new one because it is mad expensive here in Brazil, so i will run the 2011 until he dies lol
I upgraded from a 2015 base model 13" MBP to a Mac Studio. The difference is still impressive and I've been using the Studio since December. Even with the honeymoon phase well over, I'm deeply in love with the Studio. I don't expect my next upgrade to take this long, however, unless the Studio doesn't "slow down" over time, like the MBP did.
I bought a 256 GB 2017 MacBoom Pro in 2018 because my 11-in 2014 MacBook Air had suffered water damage and wasn't worth repairing. Any replacement for the 11-in HAD to have a Retina display. The "Pro" lasted 2.5 years and needed a new top case due to damage sustained when it was dropped. Then it stopped charging reliably for three weeks. It was time for replacement in November 2021. I chose a base model 7-core M1 MacBook Air from the Apple Refurbished store. My experience with the damage repair, general performance difference and charging problem mean I'd not recommend the 2017 MacBook pro 13-in for use in 2023.
I have a mid-2012 MBP with 8GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. It has been brilliant. But now it cannot cope with Photoshop, Lightroom and even Blender 3.5. The GPU is an Intel Ivy Lake and has a Blender Benchmark of 46. The M2 has a score of 13,000, I think. Yet, it is still perfectly adequate for web browsing but as I do a lot on the three apps I've just mentioned, I am going to have to upgrade. I am just struggling to wait until next year for the M3 as when I invest I expect 7yrs+ usage and often max-out the spec to ensure I get it.
I just bought my first MAC (M2Air), replacing a 9 year old Lenovo. The choice I had at the store, a slower PC with that horrid Windows 11, all 'plastic-ish' feeling to boot. I only need to read emails, light photo/video editing, watching TH-cam and Netflix, in a light easy to carry laptop I can relax outside with. I've got an i9/16gig3080 laptop for more serious stuff. I think for the money, I did better for my use case, with the MAC. I added NOMAD so I can login with my domain credentials in sync with all my Windows boxes, and it fits the need perfectly. I would have kept the Lenovo if it only had USB-C thunderbolt or at least USB3, so I could connect an external NVME with good speed but I think it was only USB2 at best...It was time to upgrade and I think I got the best laptop for the money. In the end, base your choice on the need and if your current laptop cuts it or not.
I have just replaced my 2019 MacBook Pro 13 with i7 processor, 16GB RAM and 2 TB storage with a M2 MacBook Pro 13 with 24GB RAM and 2 TB storage and I am extremely impressed with the performance uplift. My M2's Geekbench 6 single core and multi-core performance is double what my i7 could achieve, and the M2 GPU compute score is over 5x faster than for the i7's iris plus 655 iGPU, and almost identical to my i7 with Blackmagic eGPU (AMD RX580 graphics processor) connected! I prefer the M2's touchbar compared with the i7s, as the ESC key is now a physical key. I used accidentally hit the touch key on i7 MacBook Pro with my little finger and unexpectedly bomb out of an app. The only thing I slightly miss is the i7 having four ports, two per side versus the M2 only have two ports on the left side. OK I have a USB-C hub for when I rarely need more than two ports, but it would have been better if the M2 MacBook Pro 13's two USB 4 ports were on either side of the laptop. I also prefer the larger keys of the butterfly keyboard compared the magic keyboard.
Only 6 years? Thats wild for that price. My intel lasted 8 years until logic board went out a month ago. Now I’m looking for a machine to last me 10 years!
Hi, I am planning to buy macbook pro 15 2017. I am getting it for around $500. Is it worth buying? New macbook air M1 13.3 inches is around $1000 in India right now.
one thing I liked about my 2017 is that it would get so hot that I could stick it on my lap when it was cold and it would warm me up lol. but also when it was off in my bag cus it was metal it would get freezing cold and I would have to warm it up like a car before I could use it 😅
I m about to buy one this month. I sold my 2017 intel i5. It was getting very hot when video chaattin on discord. What model will be best for me ? refurbished can be too but only from apple store. What would you recomend ? I m playing World of Warcraft Classic WOTKL too .
Technology reviews might as well be obselete now. Frankly i have a 2018 intel i5 macbook pro on monterrey and its perfect. Why? Super fast, all plugins are supported etc and its fool proof. We've got to a point in this century where it doesn't really matter what you buy past 2018ish , its going ro work excellent. Phones computers tablets. The only thing you need to be concerned about is : batteries naturally degrade over time, how long is software support? How long are security updates. Lets be practical, if youre trying to edit 4k videos from your phone on a 2014 model macbook, no ...dont expect great performance. Its that simple. Everything else is just opinionated bs. If you do light work - then choose air, if you do heavy work then choose a pro.
I had a 2013 MBP and held off until m1 because of all the keyboard issues, and limited Intel improvements. I did break down and get a PC laptop about a year before16” intel because I could not wait any longer. Now using M1 Max.
I would be more interested in the 2015 MBP 13 if I were going to buy an old used Intel MacBook. 2015 and 2017 are both 14nm refresh with similar performance relative to the M1 and M2, and have similar displays. But the 2015 has a thicker chassis with more ports and cooling. What do you think?
@@voodoojin792 That is true, but counter point...a 1TB TB3 SSD costs as much as the 2015 MBP and an eGPU enclosure alone costs as much as the 2017 MBP...so who would be buying a $200-$400 used MBP to use TB3 devices that cost as much or more than the laptop itself?
I bought the m2pro 16inch...for 2 weeks and I just noticed...2017 is good enough for my daily usage like word, ,PowerPoint and excel.......I think for my case go for a older model and swap the battery is not a bad idea.
I have both, and I am interested in the huge difference. is it just hype and Apple. For example, most apps don't work properly even with Rosseta installed on the m series. as for intel, they are flying. they are selling infrastructure, everything is in-house now.
I have a mbp 2012 and a mbp 2018. Hard to believe that 2012 one is a pro model. I don't use my mbp 2018 much but I wonder if it's because it's so old. I only ever used mine for school and classes that required it. But I'm planning on enrolling again
Thank you for this video!!! I have the MBP 13" 2017 with Intel Core i7, GPU 650 and 16 Mb RAM. I mainly use it for photo and video editing with apps like the Adobe Suite, Davinci Resolve and a few others. I sooooo resonate with what you say about the jet fans🚀🚀 and the heat on the touch bar 🔥🔥 It was like that since it was brand new. At the beginning I thought there was sth wrong with it, but I have been using it for the past 6 years and I've never had any issues with it. Of course now I find that it lags when editing 4K videos, especially when I start adding certain effects, and also with 48 megapixels RAW photos. The fans go crazy with those 🤪 I'm planning to upgrade to the MBP 14" M2. I'm really doubting whether the M2 Pro chip is enough or if I should go for the M2 Max. Do you have any comments on that? From what I see you're using and M2 Pro. Am I right?
@@CreatedTech I’ll think I’ll do that. I was doubting because some say they heat up a when stressed a little (and we go back to the jet fans 🚀😂) and the battery life is less than those with the M2 Pro.
The 14" MacBook (particularly the Max variant) will get hotter and noisier than the 16" version because it's smaller and can't dissipate heat as well. The tradeoff is that of course it's smaller and cheaper than the 16". That being said it's still nowhere near the level of the old Intel MacBooks. And it will only get hotter/louder when you're doing something intensive like rendering.
What OS are you using for each? Try comparing a 2019 macbook pro with core i7 or core i9 to an M3 max, but put Catalina on the 2019. I believe Apple has been intentionally slowing down the older macbook pros in their upcoming operating systems.
I'm looking for a mobile editing powerhouse capable of flawlessly handling 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 footage. It can be damaged, refurbished, or just used (I know how to do repairs). My budget is under $500, and I don't mind whether it's a Mac Mini or a MacBook, however i do prefer a Laptop. What would you recommend for good repairability and upgradability? PS: I've never used a MacBook before, only repaired them. My current editing setup is an RX 7800XT with a 7800X3D. How will the editing performance compare if I switch to a Mac as my primary/secondary mobile editing rig and is it even worth it buying one?
My wife just got a 2017 13”MBP for game design and augmented reality. Will it work for that or will she need to upgrade to the M1? P.S. I’m going to school for video production and believe that would work for me aswell
That's a very weak MacBook and it will struggle with game design, augmented reality, and video production. I would recommend a 14" M1 Pro or M2 Pro MacBook Pro. If that stretches your budget too much I'd recommend a 13" M2 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM if you can find one second hand or on discount.
I’m making this upgrade just now but getting the 16Gb ram and 512Gb ssd MacBook Pro 13 M2 going from the cheapest 2017 MacBook Pro. The 2017 has given up on photo editing basically and it takes time to switch between photos and starting a edit in Adobe software spins up the fan and just takes to long so it was time to move on. Back when i got the 2017 it was a monster workhorse even beating my then gaming laptop with 8core AMD Ryzen 16Gb ram because in Windows it could crash with the large 50 raw files panorama while the MacBook Pro never crashed. Sure it took about an hour and 80Gb of swap but it came through. So now when i’m moving on one of my kids get the 2017. It will be enough for school work and FaceTime with friends plus some streaming. However the 2017 retina display still beats a tone of the pc laptops today. I also compose music so my music programs will like the new M2 much better 🙂
I just replaced a 2017 13" Macbook Pro i5 2.3Ghz 8GB Ram and 512 HD with a Macbook Pro 14 M3 - 8GB - 512 HD and the difference is 7X faster in video editing....
my M2 Pro on my 14 inch MBP is a joke... it's really no better than my old Intel battery. Also as far as price, the new MBP's I wouldn't consider it an entry level that a student can afford unless their parents are paying for it for them...
Just one other positive using an intel MacBook you didn’t mention, is the ability to use a dedicated GPU connected externally via a thunderbolt GPU enclosure. From what I have read is that they’re no longer compatible with any of the Apple M series chips. 🫤
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Thank you for clarifying and taking it out of gaslighting territory 😀
Finally, something more realistic. A lot of TH-camrs annoy me, comparing the previous model to the current model.
It's funny how you mentioned that not everybody does video editing. Because after watching tons of reviews and videos on the newest macbook pro it seems like video editing is the sole activity people use these computers for. xD I have my suspicion that the reason is simply because all these reviewers are youtubers and thus take their video editing very seriously.
Exactly 👍
Yeah. I think it really skewed the reviews
perfect. reviewers are reviewing for heavy editors or music engineers. i'm a coder and when not coding just an average user.
i have a 2012 mb pro, 2015 mb pro and 2020 m1.
upgraded the 12 and 15 years ago and with me just typing code 70% of the time i don't really see no difference once they all boot to the desktop. ok ok starting some applications on the 12 can take up to a minute but its not like killing me.
anyway my goto daily driver is the 15 since it has a bigger screen.
yes the m1 is great but im not all into the hype. it starts programs faster but once i get going typing and clicking around they are all the same with respect to my usage and needs
true that. But again they do video editing isn't it? not only video but music making as well. Need to admit that apple does this better than the others, plus apple will allow you to do that outdoors. Also lets not forget those who work with Xcode.
I was still using a mid 2012 15 inch MBP Retina up until October 2021 when I bought my current 16 inch M1 Pro MBP. The 15 inch still works and am thinking of wiping it and downgrading the OS to High Sierra so I can run some of my old favourite 32 bit games.
I am planning to get the MacBook pro 16 inch 2019 because of boot camp. I majorly spend my time a lot on a web browser for my work and I don't mind many review complaining about the model.
i have this exact base model 2017 pro and it’s done me well for the past 6 year, i’ll be upgrading to an m1 air next month
I also have this 2017 but i’m getting the MacBook Pro 13 M2
just upgraded from my 2018 MBA to a M2 MBA
the butterfly keyboard replacement alone was so worth it after so many keyboard jams every single week
beautiful, gonna upgrade from the 13 inch 2016 MBP to the base model 14 inch m1 as a student and im not gonna upgrade for 6 years 👍🏼
I had the mid 2012 MBP 13 for a while, it was a hobby computer I bought cheap on eBay and heavily upgraded. It worked surprisingly well for day-to-day tasks. My point is that if a persons needs (and expectations) are low many of the older MBPs will do a competent job when priced right.
I actually use a MBP 2013 for my study, Running under Ventura, it’s work great for light task! I buy a new MBP last week, but it’s surprisingly a good computer (Even after 10 years with the last ventura update)
Majority of people don't buy a macbook to game or video edit. So it still a good thing for people.
I have a 2011 Mac Book pro with 16gb of Ram and a ssd and it runs flawlessly. i dont pretend to buy a new one because it is mad expensive here in Brazil, so i will run the 2011 until he dies lol
I upgraded from a 2015 base model 13" MBP to a Mac Studio. The difference is still impressive and I've been using the Studio since December. Even with the honeymoon phase well over, I'm deeply in love with the Studio. I don't expect my next upgrade to take this long, however, unless the Studio doesn't "slow down" over time, like the MBP did.
I bought a 256 GB 2017 MacBoom Pro in 2018 because my 11-in 2014 MacBook Air had suffered water damage and wasn't worth repairing. Any replacement for the 11-in HAD to have a Retina display. The "Pro" lasted 2.5 years and needed a new top case due to damage sustained when it was dropped. Then it stopped charging reliably for three weeks. It was time for replacement in November 2021. I chose a base model 7-core M1 MacBook Air from the Apple Refurbished store.
My experience with the damage repair, general performance difference and charging problem mean I'd not recommend the 2017 MacBook pro 13-in for use in 2023.
i have a macbook pro with touch bar from 2017, with i5, 16gb of ram and 512gb of ssd, bought this month at 750€, its a really good machine
I have a mid-2012 MBP with 8GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. It has been brilliant. But now it cannot cope with Photoshop, Lightroom and even Blender 3.5. The GPU is an Intel Ivy Lake and has a Blender Benchmark of 46. The M2 has a score of 13,000, I think. Yet, it is still perfectly adequate for web browsing but as I do a lot on the three apps I've just mentioned, I am going to have to upgrade. I am just struggling to wait until next year for the M3 as when I invest I expect 7yrs+ usage and often max-out the spec to ensure I get it.
I sure get that. I finally had to move on from my mid 2012 MBP for similar reasons - it was no longer up to the task of what I wanted to do.
I just bought my first MAC (M2Air), replacing a 9 year old Lenovo. The choice I had at the store, a slower PC with that horrid Windows 11, all 'plastic-ish' feeling to boot. I only need to read emails, light photo/video editing, watching TH-cam and Netflix, in a light easy to carry laptop I can relax outside with. I've got an i9/16gig3080 laptop for more serious stuff. I think for the money, I did better for my use case, with the MAC. I added NOMAD so I can login with my domain credentials in sync with all my Windows boxes, and it fits the need perfectly. I would have kept the Lenovo if it only had USB-C thunderbolt or at least USB3, so I could connect an external NVME with good speed but I think it was only USB2 at best...It was time to upgrade and I think I got the best laptop for the money. In the end, base your choice on the need and if your current laptop cuts it or not.
I have just replaced my 2019 MacBook Pro 13 with i7 processor, 16GB RAM and 2 TB storage with a M2 MacBook Pro 13 with 24GB RAM and 2 TB storage and I am extremely impressed with the performance uplift. My M2's Geekbench 6 single core and multi-core performance is double what my i7 could achieve, and the M2 GPU compute score is over 5x faster than for the i7's iris plus 655 iGPU, and almost identical to my i7 with Blackmagic eGPU (AMD RX580 graphics processor) connected! I prefer the M2's touchbar compared with the i7s, as the ESC key is now a physical key. I used accidentally hit the touch key on i7 MacBook Pro with my little finger and unexpectedly bomb out of an app. The only thing I slightly miss is the i7 having four ports, two per side versus the M2 only have two ports on the left side. OK I have a USB-C hub for when I rarely need more than two ports, but it would have been better if the M2 MacBook Pro 13's two USB 4 ports were on either side of the laptop. I also prefer the larger keys of the butterfly keyboard compared the magic keyboard.
Only 6 years? Thats wild for that price. My intel lasted 8 years until logic board went out a month ago. Now I’m looking for a machine to last me 10 years!
Hi, I am planning to buy macbook pro 15 2017. I am getting it for around $500. Is it worth buying? New macbook air M1 13.3 inches is around $1000 in India right now.
This is the exact video I needed. Now I need to determine whether I should do M3 or M2 for music production.
Linux would definitely freshen up this old MacBook. I was able to use an old 2011 Mac way past it lifespan with Ubuntu installed.
Resident Evil runs quite well on m2.................. proceeds to show 30 fps gameplay....
one thing I liked about my 2017 is that it would get so hot that I could stick it on my lap when it was cold and it would warm me up lol. but also when it was off in my bag cus it was metal it would get freezing cold and I would have to warm it up like a car before I could use it 😅
Great comparison but who says they will buy the Old Design MBP with M2?! Logically they have to maybe buying the base M2 Pro 14”
I m about to buy one this month. I sold my 2017 intel i5. It was getting very hot when video chaattin on discord. What model will be best for me ? refurbished can be too but only from apple store.
What would you recomend ? I m playing World of Warcraft Classic WOTKL too .
Technology reviews might as well be obselete now. Frankly i have a 2018 intel i5 macbook pro on monterrey and its perfect. Why? Super fast, all plugins are supported etc and its fool proof. We've got to a point in this century where it doesn't really matter what you buy past 2018ish , its going ro work excellent. Phones computers tablets. The only thing you need to be concerned about is : batteries naturally degrade over time, how long is software support? How long are security updates.
Lets be practical, if youre trying to edit 4k videos from your phone on a 2014 model macbook, no ...dont expect great performance.
Its that simple. Everything else is just opinionated bs. If you do light work - then choose air, if you do heavy work then choose a pro.
I think the m1/m2 comparisons are probably for people deciding between the two upgrading from an Intel or first time buying
I had a 2013 MBP and held off until m1 because of all the keyboard issues, and limited Intel improvements. I did break down and get a PC laptop about a year before16” intel because I could not wait any longer. Now using M1 Max.
I have purchased mac 2017 i7 8th generation 15inch Mac Pro 16gb ram and 500gb in ₹50000 is it good
Best comparison!!
I would be more interested in the 2015 MBP 13 if I were going to buy an old used Intel MacBook. 2015 and 2017 are both 14nm refresh with similar performance relative to the M1 and M2, and have similar displays. But the 2015 has a thicker chassis with more ports and cooling. What do you think?
@@voodoojin792 That is true, but counter point...a 1TB TB3 SSD costs as much as the 2015 MBP and an eGPU enclosure alone costs as much as the 2017 MBP...so who would be buying a $200-$400 used MBP to use TB3 devices that cost as much or more than the laptop itself?
The M1 got rid of the butterflies, everyone ignores the bastard M1, but I got a great deal on one back when it was the latest entry level MacBook Pro
I bought the m2pro 16inch...for 2 weeks and I just noticed...2017 is good enough for my daily usage like word, ,PowerPoint and excel.......I think for my case go for a older model and swap the battery is not a bad idea.
It's really sad, that there are way more people comparing the 2017 13" instead of the 2017 15". They are both completely different.
Exactly the comparison we need, not M2 vs M3 - will likely upgrade my Intel i9 based on this information. I think time has come.
I have both, and I am interested in the huge difference.
is it just hype and Apple.
For example, most apps don't work properly even with Rosseta installed on the m series.
as for intel, they are flying.
they are selling infrastructure, everything is in-house now.
5th year begun with my m1a.. Saldy I was thinking I will not overload it and took 8gb. Thats my only problem. Thinking now to grab mbp
you should compare it with the 15 inch version with the dedicated gpu on the intel side !!
Such a good video for new buyers, thanks mate.
just updated from my mbp 15 2017 to the 14 m2pro, before 2017 had my 15 2013 retina )))
I have a mbp 2012 and a mbp 2018. Hard to believe that 2012 one is a pro model.
I don't use my mbp 2018 much but I wonder if it's because it's so old. I only ever used mine for school and classes that required it. But I'm planning on enrolling again
Thank you for this video!!! I have the MBP 13" 2017 with Intel Core i7, GPU 650 and 16 Mb RAM. I mainly use it for photo and video editing with apps like the Adobe Suite, Davinci Resolve and a few others. I sooooo resonate with what you say about the jet fans🚀🚀 and the heat on the touch bar 🔥🔥 It was like that since it was brand new. At the beginning I thought there was sth wrong with it, but I have been using it for the past 6 years and I've never had any issues with it. Of course now I find that it lags when editing 4K videos, especially when I start adding certain effects, and also with 48 megapixels RAW photos. The fans go crazy with those 🤪
I'm planning to upgrade to the MBP 14" M2. I'm really doubting whether the M2 Pro chip is enough or if I should go for the M2 Max. Do you have any comments on that? From what I see you're using and M2 Pro. Am I right?
If you're doing a lot of video and photo editing and you have the budget for it, go for the M2 Max.
@@CreatedTech I’ll think I’ll do that. I was doubting because some say they heat up a when stressed a little (and we go back to the jet fans 🚀😂) and the battery life is less than those with the M2 Pro.
@@CreatedTech your videos were very useful! Thanks a lot!
The 14" MacBook (particularly the Max variant) will get hotter and noisier than the 16" version because it's smaller and can't dissipate heat as well. The tradeoff is that of course it's smaller and cheaper than the 16". That being said it's still nowhere near the level of the old Intel MacBooks. And it will only get hotter/louder when you're doing something intensive like rendering.
naw apple and samsung should have a lil handshake and share emojis
What OS are you using for each? Try comparing a 2019 macbook pro with core i7 or core i9 to an M3 max, but put Catalina on the 2019. I believe Apple has been intentionally slowing down the older macbook pros in their upcoming operating systems.
I'm looking for a mobile editing powerhouse capable of flawlessly handling 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 footage. It can be damaged, refurbished, or just used (I know how to do repairs). My budget is under $500, and I don't mind whether it's a Mac Mini or a MacBook, however i do prefer a Laptop. What would you recommend for good repairability and upgradability?
PS: I've never used a MacBook before, only repaired them. My current editing setup is an RX 7800XT with a 7800X3D. How will the editing performance compare if I switch to a Mac as my primary/secondary mobile editing rig and is it even worth it buying one?
What varient of intel chips did macs had. U, P or H
is the 2017 macbook the one with flexgate?
Yes
My wife just got a 2017 13”MBP for game design and augmented reality. Will it work for that or will she need to upgrade to the M1?
P.S. I’m going to school for video production and believe that would work for me aswell
That's a very weak MacBook and it will struggle with game design, augmented reality, and video production.
I would recommend a 14" M1 Pro or M2 Pro MacBook Pro. If that stretches your budget too much I'd recommend a 13" M2 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM if you can find one second hand or on discount.
@@CreatedTech ok thank you for the feedback. I thought it might be a tad bit slow but if it got the job done cool. Thanks again
500 charges 😂😂 rookie numbers
My 2017 13incher has 1435+ cycles now, and holds 67% of original capacity left.
Planning to use it till 2027
I still have a MBP from Mid 2018, therefore good comparison ;)
Ma avete confrontato un Intel con 8 gb con un 16 gb?
I’m making this upgrade just now but getting the 16Gb ram and 512Gb ssd MacBook Pro 13 M2 going from the cheapest 2017 MacBook Pro. The 2017 has given up on photo editing basically and it takes time to switch between photos and starting a edit in Adobe software spins up the fan and just takes to long so it was time to move on. Back when i got the 2017 it was a monster workhorse even beating my then gaming laptop with 8core AMD Ryzen 16Gb ram because in Windows it could crash with the large 50 raw files panorama while the MacBook Pro never crashed. Sure it took about an hour and 80Gb of swap but it came through. So now when i’m moving on one of my kids get the 2017. It will be enough for school work and FaceTime with friends plus some streaming. However the 2017 retina display still beats a tone of the pc laptops today. I also compose music so my music programs will like the new M2 much better 🙂
How will macbook pro 2017 get updates
I have 2018 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 ill be upgrading to the M3 for VFX.
great review im subscribing
Thank you. A decision I’m making today!
I just replaced a 2017 13" Macbook Pro i5 2.3Ghz 8GB Ram and 512 HD with a Macbook Pro 14 M3 - 8GB - 512 HD and the difference is 7X faster in video editing....
11 years
Doesn't feel like real life usage brother
Who has taken over your shorts? It’s a different voice?
Thank you so much
11+ plus years
I saw this video yesterday 🤯
Good point
i think 10 years should be good for the average user with minimum 512gb and 12gb ram
Why does apple have stigma of money when windows products are in Walmart in every third party for decades
Because it’s less affordable
Dude don’t act like they are entry level because apples most expensive laptops are basically the same
It was a shame you didn't compare Parallels for Mac. I love my 2015 rMBP and I note it is now considered a 'design icon' see macrumours
Brilliant!
unfair comparison, compare with the dedicated gpu intel version !!
bro im using a 2010 Mac Pro and its faster than these new trash books with two worthless ports.
tech reviewers always want to review what's trending, which is annoying
my M2 Pro on my 14 inch MBP is a joke... it's really no better than my old Intel battery. Also as far as price, the new MBP's I wouldn't consider it an entry level that a student can afford unless their parents are paying for it for them...
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Love your content!! plz me plzz? also im an aussie!!
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Because that's what broke people do, buy brand new Macs...
only brokies use old stuff.
Oh dear... Such a lack of charm...
Just one other positive using an intel MacBook you didn’t mention, is the ability to use a dedicated GPU connected externally via a thunderbolt GPU enclosure. From what I have read is that they’re no longer compatible with any of the Apple M series chips. 🫤
"How long do you keep your Mac before buying a new one?"
Me who never had a Mac: 🥲👍