Love this channel - I've learned SO much about the sport. Just booked my beginners lessons with a local club. Many thanks NUSensei for educating me so well.
If pewdiepie can become a multi million sub channel for playing games n talking crap, this guy deserves billions upon billions, the info is solid & delivered in an excellent manner.
Yeah when I first started archery last year I had it by no jigs or anything I started doing it by hand you know pretty rough at first factory shooting a traditional or recurve one of the same I believe but quite different I've even perfected away too edge down extra inches off of the arrow if I need to. But I caught myself looking at jigs when I first got an Archer and I was oh no hold on I'm going I'm going to figure out to do this by hand to me archery ,true archery. In my opinion and that's all it is my opinion you should be able to go out and if you have any problems out in the countryside you can go and make you some limbs or a makeshift arrow
Not only online but in-store as well I can only find packs of 3 or 6 arrows and they're like between $30-80 for just that small quantity! I am literally JUST starting out in archery, been kind of obsessed with everything about it for a while and finally decided to get my own 28lbs takedown recurve. Got a small 3pack of junior arrows and the nocks are too small so I am going to attempt to carve them out a bit. Still haven't shot it yet! But I am super excited. I'm also 6'2 and got a 62" bow so I am a bit worried about my draw length.
I just bought a SAS Courage 60 inch bow 55 lbs. I was wondering what kind of arrows do you recommend I buy. FYI I'm buying them online. Thanks in advance
finally got around to getting the damaged string replaced today the new string can handle larger weights so its an upgrade that acted as an replacement
Hi, i have now used basic Easton jazz arrows and then got ACC's second hand that conveniently fitted my compound, but i now only have 8 left from a very stupid mistake i made and I'm looking at getting better quality arrows before NZ out door nationals in early January. Im looking at getting a set of ACE's shafts from abbey archery. Do you have good thoughts about the ACE's and is abbey archery a good shop to buy from as in NZ it will be far more expensive, and well I'm on a bit of a slim budget. Thanks Jordan😄
I use ACEs. They're an excellent shaft. Can't fault them; it comes down to your form. They're a step down from the X10s but a step up from the ACCs. You'll notice the difference right away. They're serious performance vanes. Abbey is an excellent store. Their prices are marked up slightly compared to other AU stores, but they're great for service and delivery. They're my preferred seller.
I'm with you on that one. Shops are fine for the stock-standard aluminiums, but anything fancier can vary greatly. One time we ordered a batch of light arrows for kids bows. They took weeks to get sent out to us, and the points were lost on the first shot, from a 12# bow shot into a plastic-padded cardboard target. At least with DIY, you've got no one to blame but yourself.
How would a compound shred spin vanes? I mean if a drop away sight is used, there wouldn't be contact between the bow and the vanes. (Also i'm partially eyeing the metallic silver spin vanes that would go very well with me colour coordination.)
It depends on the rest on your bow. I've been into Archery over 35 years (I started when I was 8) and I've NEVER shredded any sort of fletching feathers or vanes on any arrow from just shooting it out of any bow. I've shredded plenty from shooting the fletching with other arrows and hitting the arrows already in the target.
What are your thoughts on using right wing or left wing feathers for the fletching? I am new to archery. I am right handed and have an old used right-handed bow, but I might switch because I am left-eye dominant.
I think it just makes them spin clockwise or anticlockwise respectively. As long as you use all left or all right on the same arrow, I don't think it makes a difference.
I'm sure you've already found the answers for this by this time, but this answer is for others with the same question. A right or left offset, helical and/or curved vane or feather has very little to do with right or left handed shooting and more to do with natural bending or twisting tendencencies in bow construction, especially in wood or composite risers and limbs on takedown bows. Very slight inevitable offsets in how the limbs set in the riser plates, and how the riser plates are set on the riser, also make a difference, even string setting and twisting may make a difference, but probably less so. This means that most bows, especially traditional style, will have a natural tendency to spin arrows in a specific direction. So right or left offset vanes and feathers simply help the arrow follow through on its natural spin direction from your specific bow construction. If your arrows' fletching offset is set in the opposite direction from what it naturally flies out of the bow it will cause the arrow to slow down mid-flight to correct itself reducing accurate range and may even have a disastrous impact on accuracy on a badly tuned bow, but most of the time it only moderately affects range and power. The problems from an opposed offset are mainly only noticeable at 20+ yards/meters. Most bows are tuned to carry through any natural tendencies into a right offset, but you can test your bow's natural offset with a few unfletched bare arrows at close enough range for the arrow to start it's naturally bow induced spin, but not enough for a full turn (about 2 or 3 yards/meters). Put a mark on the nock end of the shaft and see which side it ends up on when you shoot. This will determine the best fletching offset and/or helical direction to help carry through your bow's natural slight limb twisting and offset tendencies. Not to say that right or left handed shooting can't make a difference, but only that from what I've gathered, some right handed bows and shooters have a stronger tendency to spin bare-shaft arrows left and vice versa, so it seems to have more to do with various features of bow construction than anything else. It would be really interesting to see someone like NU do a test on this with some of his epic collection of bows! Of course, if you already shoot straight vanes skillfully, or shoot at short range you don't really have to worry about any of this. ---------------- On a side note, this is just what I've gathered from various arrow building tutorials, reading, and experience with my own arrow fletching and recurve bow. I'm still relatively inexperienced and don't have a variety of bows to test with. It would be best to follow-up with your own research.
Great video NUSensei! I wonder, would you make a dedicated video in which you explain shafts' stiffness and outcome of choosing wrong stiffness? You mentioned about it in the video about broken window (XD) but you didn't elaboarted on that matter. Be my man and explain to me like I'm five. I bet some other people are ding to hear about it as well :3
You're going to need a way to 1) measure where you place the vanes and 2) hold them in place while the glue dries. You *can* do it without a jig, but it's significantly easier and more accurate if you use a jig.
I don't really suggest going for budget arrows. I strongly recommend buying from archery stores. Most stores have online portals and it's better that you pick a decent set of arrows instead of going for cheap arrows.
Ok sounds good thank you so much. Are you going to make a video of you puting an arrow together from scratch? And please keep the videos coming there awesome.
I've got several videos on putting together different parts of arrows (points, vanes, wraps). I don't have a video from start to finish because I don't have arrows to put together. If I do buy a new set of arrows one day, I'll probably cover it.
How do I choose the length for the arrow ? Does it depend on my draw length ? I want to start archery as a hobby in my free time and I'm on research phase now. I need to know a lot of stuff before I comet to it.
+NUSensei sorry about that, I purchased a hoyt powermax compound bow in white riser, I'll be doing target first then minor hunting in the future, should I just get hunting arrows? or half and half? since I'll be doing target for practice?
I'm coming back in time to tell you the older you is still make a tutorial videos and doing his part in the archery community so you need to step up your game LOL
SoloBlaze It actually depends on what you're shooting. If you're shooting traditional of the shelf, you have to use feathers. If you're using a rest, you can use either. If you're shooting Olympic-style target, vanes are superior.
NUSensei I am using a rest, but I noticed that on my Horizon the vanes were making contact with the riser. When I ordered arrows from Lancaster they told me that I needed feathers. It has been very difficult to find consistent information because of my location.
Feathers would help, but it's also important to make sure that your bow is tuned (i.e. the arrows are matched and clear properly). Also, are you using a plunger button?
Not yet. I just got it and only have the essentials so far but I do intend to get one. The arrows I was using were loaners, and not to be rude but they were less than optimal. I have arrows on order. hopefully that will help but they are feather fletched and I would prefer vanes.
The plunger pushes the arrow away from the riser, so if you're shooting arrows with vanes (especially with incorrect spine), you'll have collision problems with your setup.
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Love the OG Zelda sound effect. Thanks Nu
Your channel has been very helpful for me in getting into archery again (I only did a little very basic archery as a teen). Thank you!
As a sport archer, I only use vanes. Feathers are in the realm of traditional archers and hobbyists.
Love this channel - I've learned SO much about the sport. Just booked my beginners lessons with a local club. Many thanks NUSensei for educating me so well.
I haven't used Vanetec vanes, but they seem as solid as most other brands. I currently use 1 3/4" spin wings.
You deserve over 70 000 subscribers
If pewdiepie can become a multi million sub channel for playing games n talking crap, this guy deserves billions upon billions, the info is solid & delivered in an excellent manner.
Thanks for reminding me I haven't subscribed, been leeching off my boy nu's knowledge
mcsimeon thefin well now its 71 000 XD
Well he has 150 now🤷♂️
@@ruiikk_5201 170 now,he deserves waaaaay more than that
Yeah when I first started archery last year I had it by no jigs or anything I started doing it by hand you know pretty rough at first factory shooting a traditional or recurve one of the same I believe but quite different I've even perfected away too edge down extra inches off of the arrow if I need to. But I caught myself looking at jigs when I first got an Archer and I was oh no hold on I'm going I'm going to figure out to do this by hand to me archery ,true archery. In my opinion and that's all it is my opinion you should be able to go out and if you have any problems out in the countryside you can go and make you some limbs or a makeshift arrow
Don't assume the ends are cut square from the factory. Especially important for the nock end.
Not only online but in-store as well I can only find packs of 3 or 6 arrows and they're like between $30-80 for just that small quantity! I am literally JUST starting out in archery, been kind of obsessed with everything about it for a while and finally decided to get my own 28lbs takedown recurve. Got a small 3pack of junior arrows and the nocks are too small so I am going to attempt to carve them out a bit. Still haven't shot it yet! But I am super excited. I'm also 6'2 and got a 62" bow so I am a bit worried about my draw length.
I just bought a SAS Courage 60 inch bow 55 lbs. I was wondering what kind of arrows do you recommend I buy. FYI I'm buying them online. Thanks in advance
finally got around to getting the damaged string replaced today the new string can handle larger weights so its an upgrade that acted as an replacement
what is the difference between the thickness of the shafts? is thinner better? what about materials? carbon, aluminium, fibreglass or wood?
what about the good old wooden arrows , accuracy aside ?
0:06 Is that the sound from Ocarina of Time when you open a chest?
HI Nu Sensei, My arrows has a ID of 7.8mm ,what is the nocks that i should buy?
Hi, i have now used basic Easton jazz arrows and then got ACC's second hand that conveniently fitted my compound, but i now only have 8 left from a very stupid mistake i made and I'm looking at getting better quality arrows before NZ out door nationals in early January. Im looking at getting a set of ACE's shafts from abbey archery. Do you have good thoughts about the ACE's and is abbey archery a good shop to buy from as in NZ it will be far more expensive, and well I'm on a bit of a slim budget. Thanks
Jordan😄
I use ACEs. They're an excellent shaft. Can't fault them; it comes down to your form. They're a step down from the X10s but a step up from the ACCs. You'll notice the difference right away. They're serious performance vanes.
Abbey is an excellent store. Their prices are marked up slightly compared to other AU stores, but they're great for service and delivery. They're my preferred seller.
Nothing beats DIY - heard too many stories of time-pressed shops mucking it up :P
I'm with you on that one. Shops are fine for the stock-standard aluminiums, but anything fancier can vary greatly.
One time we ordered a batch of light arrows for kids bows. They took weeks to get sent out to us, and the points were lost on the first shot, from a 12# bow shot into a plastic-padded cardboard target.
At least with DIY, you've got no one to blame but yourself.
How would a compound shred spin vanes? I mean if a drop away sight is used, there wouldn't be contact between the bow and the vanes.
(Also i'm partially eyeing the metallic silver spin vanes that would go very well with me colour coordination.)
It depends on the rest on your bow. I've been into Archery over 35 years (I started when I was 8) and I've NEVER shredded any sort of fletching feathers or vanes on any arrow from just shooting it out of any bow. I've shredded plenty from shooting the fletching with other arrows and hitting the arrows already in the target.
Thanks, If you dont mind, What is your opinion on vanetec vanes and do you only use 2-3inch vanes?
Ah yep, Ive been practicing with easton powerflights and im using 3inch feathers, but im thinking of going to 2 inch vanes.
What are your thoughts on using right wing or left wing feathers for the fletching? I am new to archery. I am right handed and have an old used right-handed bow, but I might switch because I am left-eye dominant.
I think it just makes them spin clockwise or anticlockwise respectively. As long as you use all left or all right on the same arrow, I don't think it makes a difference.
I'm sure you've already found the answers for this by this time, but this answer is for others with the same question.
A right or left offset, helical and/or curved vane or feather has very little to do with right or left handed shooting and more to do with natural bending or twisting tendencencies in bow construction, especially in wood or composite risers and limbs on takedown bows. Very slight inevitable offsets in how the limbs set in the riser plates, and how the riser plates are set on the riser, also make a difference, even string setting and twisting may make a difference, but probably less so.
This means that most bows, especially traditional style, will have a natural tendency to spin arrows in a specific direction.
So right or left offset vanes and feathers simply help the arrow follow through on its natural spin direction from your specific bow construction. If your arrows' fletching offset is set in the opposite direction from what it naturally flies out of the bow it will cause the arrow to slow down mid-flight to correct itself reducing accurate range and may even have a disastrous impact on accuracy on a badly tuned bow, but most of the time it only moderately affects range and power. The problems from an opposed offset are mainly only noticeable at 20+ yards/meters.
Most bows are tuned to carry through any natural tendencies into a right offset, but you can test your bow's natural offset with a few unfletched bare arrows at close enough range for the arrow to start it's naturally bow induced spin, but not enough for a full turn (about 2 or 3 yards/meters). Put a mark on the nock end of the shaft and see which side it ends up on when you shoot. This will determine the best fletching offset and/or helical direction to help carry through your bow's natural slight limb twisting and offset tendencies.
Not to say that right or left handed shooting can't make a difference, but only that from what I've gathered, some right handed bows and shooters have a stronger tendency to spin bare-shaft arrows left and vice versa, so it seems to have more to do with various features of bow construction than anything else. It would be really interesting to see someone like NU do a test on this with some of his epic collection of bows!
Of course, if you already shoot straight vanes skillfully, or shoot at short range you don't really have to worry about any of this.
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On a side note, this is just what I've gathered from various arrow building tutorials, reading, and experience with my own arrow fletching and recurve bow. I'm still relatively inexperienced and don't have a variety of bows to test with. It would be best to follow-up with your own research.
Great video NUSensei!
I wonder, would you make a dedicated video in which you explain shafts' stiffness and outcome of choosing wrong stiffness? You mentioned about it in the video about broken window (XD) but you didn't elaboarted on that matter. Be my man and explain to me like I'm five. I bet some other people are ding to hear about it as well :3
The Engrishman for sure!!! I’m dying to find out the same information as you, but can’t find a good video or good thread anywhere
How vital is it to use a fletching jig when fletching non-spinswings vanes?
You're going to need a way to 1) measure where you place the vanes and 2) hold them in place while the glue dries. You *can* do it without a jig, but it's significantly easier and more accurate if you use a jig.
ok!
awesome video
Great video very informative thanks. But do u know a website where i can order arrows? A fairly reasonable price? Thanks again
I don't really suggest going for budget arrows. I strongly recommend buying from archery stores. Most stores have online portals and it's better that you pick a decent set of arrows instead of going for cheap arrows.
Ok sounds good thank you so much. Are you going to make a video of you puting an arrow together from scratch? And please keep the videos coming there awesome.
I've got several videos on putting together different parts of arrows (points, vanes, wraps). I don't have a video from start to finish because I don't have arrows to put together. If I do buy a new set of arrows one day, I'll probably cover it.
Awesome cool. Thank you.
How do I choose the length for the arrow ? Does it depend on my draw length ?
I want to start archery as a hobby in my free time and I'm on research phase now. I need to know a lot of stuff before I comet to it.
They should be at least an inch longer than your draw length.
+NUSensei Thanks for the fast reply. By the way you earned a subscriber
28 inch draw takedown recurve 40 lbs what spine and arrow length?
Bro I love your vids, can you do one on led nocks?
Very helpful. Thanks : )
what do you recommend for beginners on compound bow, 27.5 draw length
That's a very vague question. I don't have any specific bow to recommend.
+NUSensei sorry about that, I purchased a hoyt powermax compound bow in white riser, I'll be doing target first then minor hunting in the future, should I just get hunting arrows? or half and half? since I'll be doing target for practice?
I disagree. Online is not risky as long as you know what you're getting. I personally have never bought a bow in person.
+NUSensei thank you two, but I got my bow at oc archery, Ralf was helpful, then also got some arrow as well, thank you very much
What's a good starter fletched arrow set for a beginner using a Samick Polaris 66?
Easton Jazz for aluminiums, or cheap carbon arrows like Carbon Impacts or Easton Apollos.
I'm coming back in time to tell you the older you is still make a tutorial videos and doing his part in the archery community so you need to step up your game LOL
Do you prefer vanes over feathers?
That was kool thanks
What about wraps?
2:41 I expected: There are three types of point? SCREW IT!
Amazon arrows? X
I got that t shirt too ^_^
Who hits dislike on this ?? Crazy
Smh I don’t want arrows. I want cake!
Vanes versus feathers... Most suggestions I receive tend to favor feathers. Is this a common preference or is it a "sellers preference"?
SoloBlaze It actually depends on what you're shooting. If you're shooting traditional of the shelf, you have to use feathers. If you're using a rest, you can use either. If you're shooting Olympic-style target, vanes are superior.
NUSensei I am using a rest, but I noticed that on my Horizon the vanes were making contact with the riser. When I ordered arrows from Lancaster they told me that I needed feathers. It has been very difficult to find consistent information because of my location.
Feathers would help, but it's also important to make sure that your bow is tuned (i.e. the arrows are matched and clear properly). Also, are you using a plunger button?
Not yet. I just got it and only have the essentials so far but I do intend to get one. The arrows I was using were loaners, and not to be rude but they were less than optimal. I have arrows on order. hopefully that will help but they are feather fletched and I would prefer vanes.
The plunger pushes the arrow away from the riser, so if you're shooting arrows with vanes (especially with incorrect spine), you'll have collision problems with your setup.
John 3:16 King James Version 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved. John 3:16 (share the good news of the gospel around the world!) Have a wonderful day/night, may the LORD bless you all, and farewell!,.,,,,,,
Galatians 3:26 King James Version 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Titus 3:5-7 King James Version
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
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