I Played This Free Ukraine War Game So You Didn't Have To
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2023
- It was only a matter of time, right? Well, these Ukraine War mods for Operation: Harsh Doorstop are not at all what I expected and I don't think I'll be playing them again anytime soon...
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#gaming #ukraine #milsim - เกม
I'm not linking the mods to this. Go play something more worth your time.
Thanks moi
Slava Ukraine and the attitude of the world
@@ukraineukabandonedplace cry kiddo
Soy opinion, this game is going to kick ass when it's fleshed out. This game plays like rs2 and most importantly IS DRIVEN BY THE COMMUNITY not some shill devs. I'd rather play this game as opposed to what ever AAA garabage is coming out. Also the subtle russian bias is pretty funny ngl. Don't be butt hurt about politics in video games, it's based.
This game looked so BAD & Wonky (Weakest AK I Ever seen in Gaming 3:28 ) ... it should be considered a "War Crime" Against War Games
I don’t wanna sound like a hater cause this is better than anything I could put together but I think a certain couple of TH-camrs are learning just how hard and tricky it can be to make a good, all round game
Yess thats true. On the other Side... I am really interested in where it will Go and i Hope they will Stick to it!
Average TH-camr who has made a living talking about how bad game devs are realises how hard game dev is
@@bpdhoplite News at 11.. Shock.. no one surprised.
@@bpdhoplite but he still manages to have proper mod support than squad lol
Yeah but the more modding support they get the better the game will end up being. The game could easily compete with the 🗑 AAA companies are making once the game has a good year or two more put into it. It could also be a game that helps people get hired at companies if they can make large/unique enough content.
I dont know why this would be "tasteless" or "too soon" when we've been playing games set during the war on terror for decades now lol
The mod is based on the largest conflict in Europe since WW2. You are correct though regarding the Wagnerite terrorists.
@@patrickjohnson5245 I don't get why that matters with game design. CoD 4 came out during the surge in Iraq.
@@patrickjohnson5245 As long as it’s in the Middle East it’s ok. Your logic
@@CXOXMXAXR Killing brown people = gud. Killing white people = controversial
@@patrickjohnson5245 and? COD MW 2019 was made about the war in Syria, that still ragging today and killed more people than even Ukraine, the difference is that this is a goofy mod, that has a Campaing with political messages, not that its wrong, just don't act like this is the evil because you care for Ukraine war or something
more accurate title, "I played a community server on this free modding platform, so you didn't have to"
Jesus christ you made it sound like this was a game about a currently going on war when its just a server
There is a Ukrainian studio working on a game based on the current conflict
It's a mod on a server, this is some facebook outrage garbage.
Moidawg complains a lot about shit like this lmfao
Yeah wtf? Really weird vid.
Exploitative smh...
Fair criticism for sure, but the irony is that Squad was a jank sometimes broken mess for years and one of the most played maps is based on the War in Donbass, as in, Squad was effectively doing the same thing during it's development period. I think a couple others may be based on Chechnya.
It's fine to get political too, but saying you don't want to and then clearly want to while pulling up military budgets is odd. Just speak your mind, pretty sure that's what most people fight for to begin with.
How is pulling up literal facts being political? Saying something like the U.S. army is stronger than Iran's army isn't getting political.
@Swiss It's a video game where creators aren't bound to facts so the desire to use them to make a statement suggests the motivation is political especially after saying they don't want to be which often ends up with people doing it anyway. Common misdirection.
You can change the US Army to fight with paintball guns against Star Wars clone troopers. It would be fair to assume that's probably not a political statement, but if someone really wanted they could decide to say it is, which is fine. However saying you don't want to make a statement and then beating around the bush to effectively make a statement anyway isn't really necessary, just say what you think.
Here's an example: I don't think the 2 separate mods on a World War 1 map should be taken very seriously. Conversely if people think it's intentional to stir up drama, then just call it out, but like I said, Squad already did that, even if that wasn't their intent (which if you use that reasoning there then it might be reasonable to use it here too), and it would be ironic to see people who play Squad saying that, which is part of what I think explains all of the above.
The point I'm trying to make here is that it shouldn't be a big deal to make a political statement on something you care about, because if this was really as simple as "mods for this game aren't good", it wouldn't have the second video made on the topic and focused solely on this, and yeah, mods in a video game aren't good enough? Okay? Welcome to gaming??
@@pcrizzwhen u make a game and put some facts in it that does not mean u have an agenda that mean u want to simulate the facts so every one can have a realistic experience
But when u do a game and put some imaginary things to twist some facts it defiantly means u have an agenda
Focus only in simulated games not some MMO RPG magical world
Try to not have double standard cuz if u will hate squad for doing some agreed facts then why u do not hate others for doing agenda to non fact things ?
And no body see your sounds when there is war in Syria or other middle east country what happen do u even care ? I don’t think so
So now no one care in your Europe war but we will not make it more firing as u all western world did in Iraq etc
because we are better than you and thats a fact you may try to twist it in you imaginary game hahahahhahahah
@@MAX-nv6yj You need to actually learn English before replying because you misunderstood everything I said.
Lmao, imagine working on a mod by yourself and don't have 2 copies of yourself lmao.
Now I going to cry about how I am not patient and want mod + game to be ready even when Bluedrake said it was going to be on early access.
That's probably the point tho? Free open source modding tools to make whatever you want? I was never under any pre-conceptions that the game would be this amazing whole experience neatly bowtied... Squad, when it first released had infantry only PVP. Now look at it...
But we were told that in a short amount of time we would have something comparative.. in a few short years. Its been 3?
squad is trash compared to project reality. all squad has is the graphics really, project reality is a far superior game in every other aspect
@@mental720s oh yeah miles! Well it certainly has an epic load more players... 😄😄😄.. something PR never had
@@mental720s PR is stuck on a 19 year old engine and it shows for how utterly clunky the gameplay is... comparing squad to PR is like comparing pac man to quake.. stupid comparison.
but in the early days of squad it was actually fine unlike this piece of garbage. there is a reason why there is legit not even 300 people playing OHD and it hasnt even peaked at 2000. the games gabarge the mods will be better but i fucking doubt they will ever compete with squad
The game does need major improvements like AI smartness, but I actually enjoy playing this
"AI smartness"
Bro don't talk about intelligence when you think smartness is a word
i realy dont it feels like a cheap red orgestra without a commander and that last part is the death. game is to plain i know modding bla bla alpha bla bla but my bla bla is this game got out in the open way to soon.
@SensitivityGames well it's better to release early with a bad game open to improvement than releasing a shitty finished game
@@mvximus3188 splitting infinitives is a thing...
I don’t understand how Moi is so biased against OHD when squad was just as bare bones when I started playing it in alpha of 2015.
You had to crouch jump over walls.
and squad got trashed all the time. Don't take it too personally.
It was also 2015
@@willwebb3557 as if there was a revolution in how games are made from 2015 to now. Development is just as hard in 2023 as it was in 2015 or even 2008
Maye he has played completed games like squad, sandstorm, ... for a long time so he didn't like the gameplay of OHD. I meant OHD's gameplay is kinda not good right now but it's early access + free for that reason. I meant If anybody look at Arma reforger last year, pff OHD is much better.
@@prototypechannel6975 Squad deserves getting trash for being 50$ with what they offer to be honest 😊
The Wagner one is mostly based around the 2010-2022 Wagner where most of their units were more traditional PMC style former Spetsnaz, VDV, and Russian Marines. However, since they are now in the thick of the fighting, they have conscripts from prisons to boost their numbers. Also, Ukraine got a patch to give most of them optics soon after, so it's more balanced now for anyone watching this after this comment.
Conscripts from prisons? Are you stupid? Those are prisoner volunteers... They chose to join Wagner to try and get pardoned.
Wagner have always been terrible people mate
@@kettle4316 who is talking about morality, he is talking about mil prowess.
@@gerfand will I'm talking about morality
@@kettle4316 besides you
The "too soon" argument has never made sense. When does war suddenly lose its seriousness? Why are the world wars, vietnam, and middle eastern conflicts acceptable but not specifically ukraine? Did millions not die in the world wars or something or has it just been so long that it doesn't matter they died?
It should either all be acceptable to make art (games) about or none of it.
What about movies? Is it "too soon" for a ukraine war movie? What about drawings or paintings? What about songs about the conflict? All of those things are art intended to either inform or entertain the consumer, so what makes video games any different?
FYI, this is not a game, it's a mod, actually it's a combination of mods - on a custom server - in a game that does not yet have automatic mod downloading upon server join, so he had to very intentionally download the corrwct combination of mods to play
@@BusinessWolf1 I know about that. It's one of the most annoying parts of OHD
there use to be a squad mod depicting the war but was removed. It was pretty damn good and nobody got political, just playing the mod
No wonder why no one plays that w00ke trahs game
What’s wrong with recreating battles in a current conflict? We all do it with past battles throughout all of history via video games. What makes it so bad? How recent it happened? The US left Afghanistan a year ago yet people still play games with insurgents/taliban-type forces vs USA yet it’s no big deal. People need to stop being babies about everything.
It feels really out of touch to have fun playing a game about people who are currently actually fighting a war. I know you live in the US and it seems really far off for you but here in Finland everyone was worried that our country could have been invaded too and it feels wrong to use the situation to have fun.
People when game about Afghanistan comes out during war on terror: 😁
People when literally 1 server has ukrainians: 🤬🤬🤬
I’ll say this the game is rough but I love the concept/idea behind it, having the game be funded for production then released to the public with all the tools is amazing & would be absolutely fantastic if the mainstream did this however I wish the game was polished more THEN released
I could see this being great in a couple years, I really love the concept of too.
I've been playing it for a week now and I like it. I think the word "free" is not the main one I think, maybe "community driven"? also early access. It is like a developers build at this stage. I think it is a good start and has solid ideas that need to be further developed. Many of the think you mention about your experience is provably valid for that particular server, I have played in a bunch of different servers with different features and configurations, is like the experience across servers is not necessarily "standard", it very much depends on the configuration and I see that they're experimenting with different scenarios, rules, constrains etc.. Like I said, I like it, it is usually fun to play. It lacks many things at this stage but the fact that is community driven is refreshing
That's a fair and even assessment. I think there a few valid salt miners around though when it comes to development progress criticism. If you had seen the build up of criticism that proceeded this project.. you would have a slightly different perspective. Developers of other games were scorned or mocked and told.. Game dev is easy. you guys are just lazy. Now what we have after nearly what 3 years.. is a vastly under developed product. I support User generated content and a huge mod booster. So I will keep watching and supporting here but.. there is a large can of humility that needs to be cracked and shared by the guys building this.
the whole concept of harsh doorstop is genius - but it's not really worth it until there's some more complete/finished mods in the game - it all seems like a beta right now.
It's barely an alpha, or actually I think it's a pre alpha.
It's a goddamn prototype 😮
That Ukr Ru mod might be dumb but the fact it exists shows that when people who do know what they are doing make a good mod, sh*t will be fresh.
It's just one dev guy tho. :(
Sad I fear he will burn out soon just like some small modders that has too many problems in life
@@marywiza of course hes gonna burn out with everyone shit talking the mod. I only bought this game now to play this mod and to support the development. I literally dont care about modern shooters unless the focus is on Ukraine. I'm tired of the same old shitty desert maps with terrorist
@@mental720s whatever the focus be, I believe that our fun comes in first. The development won't stop. Someone may pick it back after a while too.
I've come past the point of playing for support, I donate to something I enjoy and accepts donations.
@@mental720s you do know there is tons of fps games right not jsut ukraine and desert with taliban lol, space fps, ww1 and ww2 fps, horror fps, civil war fps, sci fi fps. your acting like its this game or call of duty and thats it lol.
Remember these are mods not Official parts of the game
Give it time. Yes, I know they might have bitten off more than they realised but as someone who cannot play MP due to a hopefully temporary eye problem, I’m enjoying the single player version. I also play ARMA as it’s the only other title with a single player option (other than the arcade-y titles) but ARMA is a lot more complicated to just bring up a battle due to its higher realism milsim focus (Contact aside :D). And I’m finding the ARMA3 visuals just a bit, er, old, now. As I work in 3D when not waiting on eye surgery the look is maybe over-important to me.
Anyway, I understand the criticisms but I’m having quite a bit of fun anyway, and that’s the goal for me.
Sorry to ask this but are we going to get a continuation of the war 83 series or a new foxhole series soon I watched the whole series in one night and I need to see the Royal spuds in action again you guys are awesome
I'm actively working on it right now!
@@MoiDawgRemember, YOU have me my pro-warden bias.
@@littlegamer00 Moi definitely wasn't my reason for joining Wardens either nope
/s
@@thelostspaceman1783 I joined because WW1 French uniforms are based
@@derpcade I joined because Always-Collies are the most annoying people I've ever had the displeasure of gaming with outside of the LoL community
Not sure if my comments are blocked on this channel yet, but I wanted to leave a comment (not for Moi) but for Skiddle, Ponchovie, and the other modders who made the content featured in this video (who I know will probably watch this) who have been getting targeted and bashed by content creators recently.
Guys... I just want you to know how much I have loved watching you be excited to make some of your first mods ever. I know for some of you... this is some of the first work you've ever created. For something made by people with little to no experience in Unreal Engine 4... what you all have made is (in my opinion) a huge achievement. I'm so happy that Operation: Harsh Doorstop has been a free place for you to happily experiment with Unreal Engine 4 development, and to make things you enjoy making. People like yourselves are the exact reason I made this game, and I love seeing people in the community who actually understand why having an open Unreal Engine game (even a barebones janky one) is so much dang fun.
I hope after you watch MoiDawg's video here, you'll see this comment... and you'll know that no matter how much people try to bash you for spending your own free time to make something you and your friends can play and enjoy... that you'll have still me (and our community) who support your development journey, and who believe in helping you create awesome things (even if we're still just a ragtag group of dudes living off minimum wage doing our best to make a fun game.)
Thank you all for making the dope mods you made. I know you all know for a fact how much fun both I and the rest of the community have had not only playing your work, but also watching how excited you have been to create it.
Please don't let videos like this discourage you. I don't care if you haven't yet updated that volume block on the edge of your map... who cares, its still dope... and I am super impressed with what you've made.
That's all I have to say here.
That's... oddly defensive.
It isn't about mod itself but base game mechanics being literally bad mostly lol
@@MichaeloApC lol no the video is named portrayed as the base game is about ukrain-russia war
the game is lack luster in too many ways man. yet another project taken out of the oven when its still completely raw and gooey. i think people are rightfully justified to give negative reviews about getting totally unfinished content. even if its free and even if its labeled early access.
Just like we didn't let all the negative streamer videos about squad get us down either. fuel for the fire! No-one who hasn't done it can tell anyone how easy/hard it is until they have.
It literally takes many years to produce these types of games. Harsh door step is 2-3 years in and just starting to solidify all its core systems.. given 2 more year maybe it worth playing.
Bro is salty about free game, but other way he complained about gesture pay add on pack in squad 😂.
To be honest, we need more games where a team has cheaper equipment than the other team. I mean, I still have a lot of fun fighting with Mosins and SKS in RS2:Vietnam.
But in this case, I think both sides should have the same type of equipment with small differences per class.
i mean squad is literally that the middle eastern side relies on trucks with turrets and ieds and ied drones while the other side has actual military firepower
I still keep my fingers crossed for this game. Bluedrake sounds so full of unbreakable, almost naive hope and passion, I just feel bad imagining him ending up in a dead end.
But yeah, for now it's no good, especially to me, cause I'm not interested in multi.
bluedrake has been doing the same thing for years and years which is his passion, covering tactical shooters. now he's making a tactical shooter which will basically be a framework for modders like arma 3 but on a significantly smaller scale with mods, i'm sure he'll be working on this for 5-7 years even especially with his passion and i'm sure it'll come out as something great
I’m glad your not holding your tongue like a lot of other CCs
Yeah I saw some video's saying how it's not that bad if it only got "some" improvements and how because of the mod support this game could be amazing. Like what?
YES! I had beta access to this game, for what I saw in the videos it was a really nice simple game with a solid "core".
Nope, it was basically a collection of models, free/simple sounds and so raw... I couldnt enjoy it.
@@itax2139 all I gonna say is that as my memory goes OHD is literally the level that Squad had in 2015 or something minus the medical system.
Its better to wait now.
@@gerfand no back when squad was only inf PvP it wasnt hot garbage like OHD is. i played it for 30 mins and uninstalled, when i first palyed squad years ago when it barely had anything i played it straight for months on end. and atleast the devs had roadmap and didnt jsut lie to us and make the community make the game good. these people saying squad was at this level once is true only in the sense it wasnt even released when it was at the same level as OHD lmao.
@@Kalashboy420 "lie to the community" about what, also most players that played Project Reality just went back to it because it was bare bones compared to it, you just didnt had a comparisson game.
I think one issue with the weapon selection would be due to different modders' choices, although I looked up both of the faction mods utilized and they're by the same person. I suppose I'll continue on the point even if it may not totally apply here, I mod a similar game known as Ravenfield - and an issue with all these different mods is that modders have different ideas on balancing - and it isn't the easiest thing to unify the balance of peoples' mods. As an example, you could have three different M14 mods out there and each one functions differently - maybe one is higher damage, higher recoil, one is lower damage and recoil, and another is high damage and low recoil. I have heard that OHD is planning on letting weapons not be locked to factions, so you can swap out the weapon presets per faction (eg. Vietnam GIs with WWI-era weaponry).
I don't know how easy it is to mod OHD, but I do notice a credits section in the description with quite a few models from other creators utilized. Coming from the experiences of a modder myself, modding can be difficult to get into at first as you're learning new systems 'n whatnot. Shoot, it took me around three months to get an incredibly poor-quality Baker Rifle mod working, and I'd imagine a lot of these modders are pretty new to the scene given the game isn't all that old. Given the graphical fidelity of the game, I'd also imagine it would make much more sense to have more people in projects specialized to things like animating, modeling, UV unwrapping, rigging, weight painting, scripting, compiling, etc. etc. So that'd be a lot of work for just one person, though not all of it is required depending on what you're doing. After all, these faction mods do appear to be made by one guy with the assistance of some models from others.
In terms of the mod being tasteless, I don't have any issues with it. Shoot within the first few opening weeks of the conflict I've seen mods themed around it come out - but it's really no different to any other ongoing war with people fighting in it, or even historical wars in theory. Besides, the mod description clearly states that any political messages will be deleted.
I should also point out that the author is also aware of balance issues and is currently working on a patch according to the Steam comments.
1:30 it says yehorivka is located in pisky but theres an actual village in ukraine called yehorivka thats quite a ways away from pisky in the donetsk region
It was very non specific tbh.
Wanger getting red dots is not that big of a deal, tho stuff I knew they got more optics than Ukraine there, the idea is something like TDF vs Wagner, wagner is actually really well equiped (but not in this way, yes they are hence why sucess if you look at maps and stuff), meanwhile the territorials are conscripts (hence why they are not give super weapons)
The problem tho is that people got too political, which kinda expected that guy just removed the comments on the mod. Either way the problem he has is that RPGs are not as usefull as scopes, but removed that, Wagner getting Tarkov tactical reloads is probably just because of how he got those models, not a statement over who has best guns and stuff.
It could go both ways imo
like if the Ukrainians were very well equipped and wagner isn't it, wouldn't be technically wrong because it all depends on which units are fighting (UKR SOF vs non-assault units)
@@rllybigguy that is true, this is why its better to do a 1x1 level, so both gets 1 scope rifle, 1 mg same ammount of everything else than slighty different
everyone make sure to remember the only reason the Ukraine team exists is because of modders AND NOT THE GAME DEVS…the game is very bare bones aswell, i’d just play ravenfield (sorry if im regurgitating stuff already known)
Spec ops the line was based on a ongoing war. Everyone praises that game. Plus this is one server, a modded server not directly made by the devs this game is a game where the community defines the experience if you want to play something else play different mods dude
When I clicked on the video, I thought it was going to be a Ukrainian developed game with a donation button to support the country, which I would have found very interesting to see who is developing what in a country that's currently fighting for its very existence.
I can't even say this is "too soon" because it's a mod for a game and except for the names and some minor visual queues, you wouldn't be able to tell what the scenario is or who's fighting.
_STALKER 2_ is a game currently being developed by Ukrainian devs who are very much struggling right now. That's being published by *Microsoft* and is one of the biggest upcoming Xbox titles.
_Metro: Exodus_ is a game with _fascinating_ story. Moscow Russian writes some books (METRO 2033-35) Ukrainians in Donbass make a game of it, make another game, war started in 2014, they flee, start making third game, get bought by northern Euro company, finish third game and move the dev studio and all of their families to Malta. In 2019. They just beat COVID, if they hadn't, they'd still be Ukraine when the third invasion started last year...
I highly recommend you learn more about 4A, I think they have dev diaries on TH-cam.
Also, both these games and books are very Slavic and good and are the reason my heart and mind had been turned towards Eastern Europe well before this terrible conflict.
@@kjj26k Proud owner of Metro: Exodus! I also own the Metro series of novels. I know they had a fairly talented development culture in video games prior to the war. It's a damned shame, so many lives have been ruined from this whole thing.
@@YouCaughtCzars
The best the average Ukrainian can get out of this is that things continue as they were before just with more trauma now. That's worth everything, but still...that's gotta feel pretty bad.
If this was too soon good thing you dont know about some rail shooter that you just fire ATGMs at Russian tanks someone made in march last year (tho had a controversy over being a malware game)
Bro just said nothing with a lot of words
Why do people still have to do that 😢
"This game is so bad and not worth your time!"
ITS A WORK-IN-PROGRESS, I KNOW IT'LL GET BETTER
But reallllllly lmao Why I take it all with a grain of salt and formulate my own opinion when I get the game, because let's be honest, someone just looking up a game on youtube for a review of it is still interested in the game and possibly gonna buy it, regardless of what Joe Shmo says (No disrespect @Moi; love your videos, love your opinions, but he's right on this one)
Smallest violin 🎻 playing
People playing games portraying the Iraq / Afghan War in 2007 - 2011: 😃
People when they hear about games portraying Ukraine in 2023: 😭
True lol
1:23 So, playing video games that depict the Ukraine war leaves a bad taste in your mouth, but playing the battle of Fallujah in Squad is just fine? Care to elaborate, or is it just "too soon?" What period of time is acceptable to elapse before making a video game about it?
Too soon is probably why
Yeah I made a commitment about that. Squad tends to be a bit classier with it but they also made an insurgent faction in Afghanistan fighting the USA while the USA was still in Afghanistan dying fighting The Taliban. Similar thing
its to soon because the events are happening closer to europe. if the mod is based on current middle east conflicts its fair game to them lmao
@@PyroFTB Ukrainian war taking place since 2014, not 2022. How it is "too soon" if US coalition left Afganistan just in 2021 but still we have multiple maps from there?
@@MichaeloApC Too soon because it's still happening
I love this game so much. 100% worth playing. Easy to get into for some fun just wished more people talked in the game. Also, a recent update made joining servers much easier as it auto-downloads mods for the server. So far this game has improved loads and has constant updates always improving the gameplay experience.
this game reminds me of squad during 2015 tbh
I call it a poor man’s squad
Squad was also garbage during alpha
@@shofer1703 exactly my point
Its balanced cuz wagner troops have sights , but have no f*cking artillery support.
I’d take artillery any fucking day.
Which is inaccurate asf, because the Russians have 20x more artillery than Ukraine.
you can't be surprised over the wagner group mod having optics and the ukrainian soldiers not having them lmao wagner is a private military group obviously they are gonna have the better equipment, a regular Ukrainian army soldier will not have an optic on their rifle but you could argue that they do now since all of the nato support and equipment, from a server standard yea its unfair but in terms of realism of the equipment it is not unrealistic
Wagner is a PMC funded by guess who, Russia.
They get the same crap.
Коротко про "обладнання" Вагінера зі слів тупого довбойоба
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@@blackjacka.5097 yeah they get the best equipment they can possibly get since they are way more trained than a regular soldier that russia has, both regular russian and ukrainian troops do not get crazy optics and equipment
Don't remember any "too soon" sentiments regarding conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan or any other 3rd world country
This guy gives me such bad vibes after this vid
@@wierdestpker1 i obviously support Ukraine as much as the next guy, im just pointing out the hypocrisy of a gaming industry that has thrived off fps games set in ongoing or recent theatres suddenly developing a sense of morality when the conflict targets a European nation
@@a-man2246 I ment MoiDawg not you bro
@@wierdestpker1 he knows, he was just adding to his comment
when squad was developed 10 years ago, the "war on terrorism" was just halfway through
now the most middle eastern maps in squad take place in iraq but its clear what we are playing in matches like insurgents vs. western countries...
so thats not a valid point in my opinion :D
The basegame is fun, everygame i get like 50kills in pvp games its fun but still feels like a wip game tho, i see a great future for the game too
You didn't play USMI (US Modern Infantry) and MEC mods in single player against Ai - interesting if you change your mind after 🤣
Against AI 💀
Yeah why is Community funded Free game not as good as the multimillion-dollar Studios games
So why play the community funded game? Being a community funded game isn't an excuse for making shit. Stupid argument lol.
This is a mod not the base game.
Dude, most games developed by Triple A multimillionaire companies are garbage. They're just overhyped disappointing cash grabs.
i like it, sometimes you can actualy get people to play as team.
its fun to see, how the frontline gets wider naturaly, cuz players start to understend they cant just rush streight, so they try to flank.
its open alpfa so you cant realy expect anything major, dont understend people taking shit on it
I think it comes from the fact that it's been in development for something like 6 years, and they don't have much to show for it(or, as much as people would have liked to have seen from it). The pace at which progress is being made, a lot of people feel like this game isn't going to be anything substantial without years more development time.
@@nathans7641 well, they got only one programmer, so 6 years isnt a lot, thats normal
@@nathans7641 the fuck are you talking about? the game's idea first came out in 2020 and its been only released this year
@@ANIMshit Exactly, and i think they restarted the whole project only 3 years ago, so saying 6 years in disingenuous, they sold the older framework to the red cross
I have gotten a really obnoxious impression of the devs, personally. BlueDrake, who I assume to be kinda leading the project I suppose, strikes me as a guy who is overly zealous about his game revolutionizing FPS gaming to the extent of waving off most criticism the game receives as some incessant conspiratorial hatred. I have with my own two ears heard the man say that the people mocking his "game" hate him for creating something new and shaking up the status quo of FPS gaming. Certainly some people are probably being stupid about it, but being the lead dev, or a developer at all, it is ridiculously unprofessional and petty to make entire videos about mocking people who criticized your game, no matter how poor their arguments may be.
people really playing this like it's a finished game, guys, it's not finished, the mods are gonna make the game good, like many other games
I wonder how long it'll take for an scp mod to be released
It's free and on early access. So yeah it will definitely be bare bones and lacking.
I mean what do people expect? It's on early stages of development, the guys working on it are also learning the ways of it, and since it's free you cannot really expect them to have the same resources and man power as a paid game would have in how large their scope of the game they wanted it to be. I mean man, there are Paid games out there that are either a scam or straight up money cash grabs.
I'd say give them sometime and understanding. Cause in the end of the day it's free game, you will lose nothing playing or not playing it.
I understand your points but you also have to factor in that it's in very early access and I bet it's been in development a fraction of the time hell let loose or arma was in. The point I'm trying to make is that if you give it a year or 2 it will most likely meet a majority of expectations that the fans have
Just saying but Ukrainian-Russian war is on going not from 2022 but 2014. If you had no issue with Afgan or Iraqi maps in Squad you really shouldn't be complaining about politics in other areas. Also Wagner Group is professional private military group that fought in Syria or Africa for years already using top class equipment. In Bakhmut tho there are two Wagners - one well equipped, based on ex-military specialist and other conscript one so little research before video would be nice in the future ;) And... it isnt like Ukraine get tones of aid and they use scopes all around their infantry - actually what mod potrait is more realistic than any Squad/PR/Arma approach probably because majority of Ukrainian Army surely doesnt use any optics.
seems a little biased
@@Dili832 biased or not its truth
Russians just producee more and better things
There is a reason ukraninas are mobilising and basicly hunting man on their streets while russiana dont...cause of losses of course
But there is mobilization in Russia though? Obviously it’s not going to be on the scale of Ukraine because the two populations considering military strength aren’t really comparable. Russia creating better equipment is also very debatable considering the two nations tons of the same equipment, the equipment you see on basic troops on the Russian side isn’t even remotely too tier and even a lot of common equipment the Ukrainian soldier may use is by far more superior than their Russian counterparts considering it is vastly given from the west. Both sides have huge mobilization efforts and both have their fair share of bad equipment which can be seen in videos, photos etc but come on, this mod is a tad bit goofy. It’s still not “too soon” though because it’s just a video game and no one else cries over past wars.
@@user-uh1yr8cg1h mobilization vs the draft... there is a difference, mobilization is when active or reserve soldiers get deployed, the draft is where your 40 year old uncle is deemed fit to serve... Ukraine is doing both, Russia is only mobilizing
@@bingbong6127 I'm well aware of the difference but Russia mobilizing troops is still essentially drafting troops into service because a huge majority of them are listed as conscripts. Thier reserves can just as easily be put into a conscript tier judging from their quality and actions on the frontline. Russia may just say they are only mobilizing but reality says otherwise, hence people from villages super far east of Russia being sent to the front kind of proves that, doesn't really make much sense to pull farmers from crazy far away to fight on a front if only a general mobilization is happening when they could easily pull people from nearby reserves, bigger cities etc than people who are no doubt just conscript level troops.
Why are you so mad about the Ukraine mod? There's a million games set in the middle east. But now that's not arabs dying you get mad?
Its not his fault, he just fell for propaganda
I know this is in early access but boy does it feel undercooked. Like you can still hype the game and release demos but this shit is barely playable right now.
"Mom I want Squad" "but we have Squad at home" Squad at home:
Its a pre alpha.... squad was the same in the beginning
i completely disagree. This game has alot of potential and the devs are doing a great job at keeping us in the loop and coming out with good updates especially since its FREE you can make the game to almost anything and i even think it has good potential to compete with the bigger titles in the future
it looks like shit, plays like shit and has no real content. Expecting modders to carry your game is lazy and a bad idea. I think this game will outright fail if they keep using that excuse, because its not hard to find any other modern shooter better then this
SLAVA RUSSKIY
@@matiasignacio6129 you spelled PIGS wrong
@@jeremyczanstke5shut up
Wouldn't it make sense for the private military company to have scopes and attachments since they're a private company rather than a regular state military?
It’s pretty much how it is, aliexpress optics and kit and most conventional forces of Ukr don’t have kitted our guns wether it’s because they’re TDF or just conventional with iffy logistics
PMC groups with actual good soldiers would have kitted out rifles with expensive gear. Wagner is not that, their company is largely made up of convicts who have no prior military experience. You're thinking of American PMC groups that are comprised pretty much entirely of ex-soldiers/SoF.
Exactly, idk why people are propping up Wagner forces for something that they’re literally not. Theirs is tons of videos and photos of them wearing basic kit that many soldiers and even groups around the world have. They’re nothing special, azov even shares tons of equipment wagner has.
@@swiss8988 Wagner is well equipped and well funded... they operate in Syria and Africa... get your facts straight
@@user-uh1yr8cg1h It all depends on the unit, wagner assault units are special forces, meaning they will be better equipped than other units
5:32 idk if you are just complaining on how everyone has scopes, but Wagner assault units (the ones being to assault urban areas, with cover of artillery) are usually very well equipped, compared to regular units that just have vintage AK-74s
My ass, if the VDV ain't getting good shit, neither does Wagner.
@@blackjacka.5097 Wagner is actually pretty well equipped.
@@blackjacka.5097 That explains 180k dead ukrainians blown up ukranian T72s against Wagner who has shovels reported by CNN BBC FOX Sky News and so on
Project reality had Syrian war maps with saa vs fsa during the war and no one cared. Why does it matter about ukraine?
people eat their propaganda, and get emotional with things
Тому що їм пофіг на це, українцям ні. Що такого не зрозуміло?
im running the game on a gaming laptop, so far my experience has been mixed. i Genuinely think it can be very unique, there are many casual aspects to it too though and there is somewhat a strong emphasis on a tactical shooter.
The perfect placed for this game is to hold it where its at and get rid of all the casual aspects and stick to realism in the "foot soldier aspect" that's where that's where it will do the best for the time being.
With that being said lots of things are bad in it, things that are crucial for a simple mod experience too not a full fledged multiplayer game. Though it isn't meant to be a game it should still not be as buggy as it is, fix its combat movement, get rid of the arcade-ness of the combat and fix its AI.
Now if Bluedrake sees a future for this game, him and his devs need to take it way more seriously than they already do, of course unless they want to leave it a community modding platform then that's fair, otherwise they have to fix much to even have it be a good 10v10 tactical game.
This so far has been an okay yet irritating medium scale milsim shooter, but again a long road ahead for it to gain a good reputation and respect across the FPS Genre.
agreed, though i assure you bluedrake is taking this game 100% seriously especially with his unbreakable passion, i could see him working on this for half a decade or more and i believe it'll come out as a great modding platform with great mods and experiences
Is it true that this video is sponsored by EA and DICE?
Moi probably got bribed by them with the infinite money they have just to say this free game sucks, and instead persuade his viewers to burn their money on crappy expensive cash grab games like Battlefield 2042
Thats on you then, i havent had any of these issues
its basically a free version of squad
Technically Wagner does have good equipment when you actually watch their videos. They are contractors who served in the Middle East, Africa and currently fighting in Ukraine.
actual wagner does. the penal hordes are fucked though.
Забудь, вагнер знищили вже давно, то вже інша ПВК, яка наймає зеків та психічнохворих, дає їм мінімум зброї та тупо посилає на убой.
I got it when it was free yet still decided to buy squad, either way, can’t compare it to a game that’s been in development for a long time
Wagner getting slightly modified AK-74's with camo is completely made up? Even a quick Google search would prove otherwise, let alone a thorough following of any of the conflicts they were and are involved in.
Moi this reeks of smarminess. I don't understand breaking into factions over different games you play. Yeah the devs touted it as an ARMA killer but amateur game devs can be forgiven for hyping their own game. A month removed from your last video of you saying its a "wait and see" so continue waiting...yeah it sucks right now, but squad has roots in OG Project Reality and PR contributors that also happen to not just mod but introduce current conflicts into their base games. Lots of needless pearl clutching in this video that seems a lot like Squad VS everything media. I'd rather support a game like this than keep playing Squad with pay for play content, and yes, both of these games need course corrections. I've ceased playing Squad for a bit now and I was keeping up to date with it using your channel, but I think I'll use a different channel for that now. Good luck.
I find it odd that I've now, in two videos, said that I think OHD has a bright future, but right now is not the time to play it and because of that you've been offended enough to post this. I'm not going to fake my enjoyment of this when it's so incredibly bad despite future development having a lot of potential.
I've posted many videos blasting Squad. I generally dislike Arma since I don't like playing against AI and games that take over a day to set up.
OHD is not a fun game right now. I'm sorry if you don't like hearing it, but it's not. I would have guessed that the mod that has been the most popular one in the server list for the past week or so would have actually had content but it doesn't.
@@MoiDawg Thats fine, just say that, why are you going "Look at this, its LAUGHABLE, don't bother playing it" Nothing in this video needed to be said from your last video so why keep reiterating it and dunking on OHD? "Hahaha look at this garbage" just let it sit and wait like you said you'd do in your first video.
@@christianmaas8934 hard agree
The funding concept of OHD is an arma + battlefield + [insert non creative shooter here] killer. The game itself is a work in progress, of course.
@@MoiDawg sure, blast the free game, made on a shoestring budget all you want... but ripping apart amateur modders(one of which is a kid) who just started learning the tools a month ago, is a scumbag move.
Bro actually called it a ukraine war game
Hey man you had a video about unlocking M13B solo, and in the comment you mentioned it's no longer working and you will make another video so I wanted to ask have you found a way to make it easier for a solo
let me explain, so the ukrainians use ak74s and russians use ak12s with piccatiny rail, though its unrealistic since not that many russians would have scopes in 1 squad
Longtime sub. Enjoy your vids. I also, enjoy OHD and have been taking part in the development over the last few years. The "tasteless" mods you covered here were created by private individuals who are part of the OHD community. To them, I would say: Thank you for your efforts, and keep up the good work! Look forward to more of your Squad coverage.
I mean dude even the base game is shit
@@snow1-2pinkkush46 but moidawg is crying about a mod, he even mention the servers wont download the mod automatically, so that means he went out his way to download the mod from workshop to cry about it lmao
@@trazercreations8478 i mean it was like the most populated server that why i guess
I've stated this many times in videos (including this one) and on streams that OHD has a long road, but I'm totally on board with what they WANT to do. Right now, however, there's not much for the average player and the fact that one of the most populated servers (meaning people are actively choosing to play it over others) was a Ukraine War reskin just felt so off to me.
As I said in my first video on OHD, the game isn't for me right now but I can't wait to see where it goes.
@@MoiDawg A war is a war, fucked situation any way you look at it. Why would it matter how close to it you are in time, what happened happened. Or is happening, in this case. Same shit either way, it's no more morally questionable to play a WW2 shooter than these mods. Really don't see what time has to do with anything.
You play squad, explains a lot… you bashing the game to get a better rep with squad? That’s a little pathetic, or am I completely wrong. Sure hope I am!
Also the mod names are in the server title lmao
you're acting like the game devs made a ukraine war game (aka bluedrake) which they didn't, it's literally a community server just based around the ukraine war conflict?? these types of things are literally everywhere including arma 3 more then likely?????
thank god we have someone being honest about OHD like its so terrible in the state its in its an at most ok experience
If you haven't watched a lot of Ukrainian war footage, there are still a lot of Ukrainian soldiers still rocking ak74s if no optics
Is there though? Obviously Ukraine has some but so does Russia. It’s not a case of Wagner has optics on everything and Ukriane is iron sight’s everything. Just unrealistic
the few ukrainian soldiers that are left yeah. all that billions in global weaponry we gave them, where is it all? why are they still using shitty beat up AKs from the 70s? the front lines didnt get shit, and the families of the dead got nothing. meanwhile we are still pumping hundreds of millions of dollars to who? where is it all going?
Yeah but Wagner having them on all their guns is just pure bullshit
@@puma2334 The loadout system for OHD currently doesn't let you randomise weapon setup when making a mod. It will after they add weapon customization.
@@puma2334 And reminder, what you see in this video is a mod, not the base game. Well actually a few mods put together.
You played on a server using my friend's skiddle's map
I keep on calling it operation harsh door step on accident. Maybe because its a stepping stone to something better.
So make something better :)
@@koboman2444 Nah. Plenty to play between squad, tarkov and coh3. I don't have this void in my tactical FPS life that OHD players keep talking about.
@@FreshBoxLive tarkov is completely chock full of cheaters, youd be a fool to play it now in my opinion. Squad is good, ill give you that, but once in a while something else is nice. And coh is (iirc) top down and not fps. So notably different.
I''m not a OHD fanboy, but ill note how the game is p much volunteers (im p sure), comes with the SDK pack, so it has tons of mod support, nearly limitless id imagine. ALSO it p much JUST came out.
@@koboman2444I dont care if they are different. im just saying i dont have a void in my life because nobody is developing a game I want. I don't have a problem with cheaters in Tarkov. I have had a 65% Survival Rating 3 wipes in a row.
I gave OHD a positive review on steam even though i played it for only 20 minutes mostly due to things you mentioned about the SDK and just the POTENTIAL of the project.
Calling Wagner a convict force is only half true afaik. Judging by Perun's video essays, they have pretty capable assault troops. The convicts are sacrificed to reveal enemy positions and then the pros come in at night for the actual attack.
However, for a realistic modelling of Bakmut one would also need to reflect the difference in objective. It seems like the UA forces are currently in the defensive, potentially preparing for a future offensive, so their goal is to inflict attrition while not loosing too much ground, while Wagner needs PR victories to secure their place in Russian politics.
The offensives already happened and failed. They're simply trying to not lose 7 more Battalions in the cauldron.
There fighting in bakhmut still because they have no option to retreat. They have no MSR's, they're all under russian control or shelled to oblivion.
PMC Wagner have been around since the Syrian war back in 2017 and even in Africa as well, I think he's just Biased giving how he gives reviews without getting, "Political" without even having prior knowledge to back it up.
This. Pretty much what I said in my comment. Wagner are better equipped than most other Russian forces but Ukraine is way under equipped in this mod.
Basically the Operations game mode from _Battlefield 1_ would be perfect for this.
Heck... _Battlefield 1_ would be the perfect place to start for a Russo-Ukranian war mod...if only it was moddable.
wagner has billions of dollars so they def have scopes and suppressors and such while ukraine only the yellow armbands are well equiped and green is just taken of the streets
So if wagner have “billions of dollars” why Prigoshin asked about help and saying like “We don’t have enough supplies like 70%”? And can you make your sentence more understandable? Because I’m not braindead so much to fully understand you
one harsh doorstep you have yourself on XD
The lead dev Bluedrake 42 posted a video on how to give constructive criticism. I understand where you are coming from MoiDawg but I think being constructive rather than completely negative.
How much did OWI pay you?
Then guess Bohemia paid him too because he mentioned ARMA for a few seconds....... *clown horn honks*
@@batherrofmoistureaposto1785 he is a squad partner, so maybe he is mad with ohd for having better mod support than squad lol
100% not Russian propaganda mod
I think Bluedrake tried to recreate the DayZ story. Give people a platform to make their own games and let them mod it, the players will vote with their feet on what is fun.
But I wonder if the world hasn't turned in the last 10 years and if you have the necessary amount of people who are willing to work on those mods just for fun. Also the milsim genre has a much smaller playerbase than something like DayZ.
Thats not Day Z at all. Day Z was a fully furnished game with tons of mechanics, items, and more, way before mods ever got to it. Bluedrake is trying to pass off a base engine as a “game” and he expects modders to finish the whole thing and basically create a game out of it. BUT IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE PROPER MOD SUPPORT.
Not comparable at all…
@@killjoy1056"DayZ was a fully furnished game" HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHA
How did you get the mod to work? I installed it and tried to get it work but no dice. This game kicks ass, real rs2 vibes.
This game feels too arcadey, it’s easy to get kills
I mean it’s easy in Squad if you don’t miss…
Arcadey = bullet sponges. Not two to the chest and you're out.
@@benbevan1442 So CoD hardcore isn't arcedey anymore?
Just like it is in real life. But don't call it arcadey, there is no slide, the vault speed is horrible, walking and running are not fast, and you can't hold your breath to steady a scope.
@@BusinessWolf1 I can tell you for sure that you can run and walk faster in this game than SQUAD, in SQUAD it’s more realistic because you’re actually carrying heavy equipment
Wagner is better equipped than the Ukraine military, most of Ukraine's military is old soviet weaponry... this is just a simple fact, like it or not. The standard rifle for Ukraine is the first generation ak 74, while for Russians, its the ak74m or ak12... additionally, Wagner assault groups are better equipped than regular Russian army, they are specialized and thus get better equipment
This loads out are semi right Wagner is right but Ukraine do need more scope as I still see scopes on their guns
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Ur not funny
you know what to do, so you dont bring crazyness to the games. its to stop caring.
most of those maps that you're playing on it's the modders that are implementing everything that you're doing so I wouldn't really play any thing yet until the game is flushed out more maybe in the future will be better who knows you can look at the owner's TH-cam channel for updates or even actual gameplay of recommended modded Maps that actually work well but still the game is not up to par but it has potential
If they added wagner group why not replace ukraine with azov battalion? That way both sides plays as the elite bad guys.
lol
yes we need to see those nazi azov ss division symbols or black sun, and swastika tattoos ofc, steam will not ban it prob xD but i don't rly think that azov still exist after mariupol
@@the_mpower not as a organised battalion or regiment,but they have some smaller units and smaller organisations,altoutgh almost non existent
@@nemanjaredzic9534 yeah smaller, thats why they even have chindren nazi camps lmao and they're supported by their government, ask everyone from ukraine they will say that azov are heroes xD
@@the_mpower а кто герой? Зеки из вагнера?
I feel like this mod was made so redditors can roleplay how "cool" it would be to fight in the war. Mod doesnt come with freezing to death and seeing your friends die tho.
Anyway I can't imagine the type of all chat conversations that are happening on a multiplayer server where you cosplay and active conflict.
The Moral outrage about this game is funny af, you can apply that same line of thinking to any shooter game with real life history themes
@@LookUpAndSpit true lol
I feel like OHD probably wont work out without making something fun to draw people in first. The reason people like me make mods for games is usually because: A.) It is a fun game that we think would be perfect for an improvement or mechanic. B.) It has a world that is interesting and just begs to have more content. C.) Has a playerbase with similar desires in terms of content, or has multiple sections of the community that enjoy different forms of content. Also, we usually have some type of reverence or respect for the game or the passion behind the game. Sometimes we want to add to the world, sometimes we want to make it pretty. Sometimes we just want to fix things. And usually, we are just trying to add to or transform the world in a way that creates an entirely different vibe within the game, more sinister, more tactical, more comical. It's always "more", because we want to squeeze the most entertainment from a game we love spending time in.
I'll admit, sometimes I just want to make something cool and it's great seeing people enjoy it, but a game that is nothing except random mods usually ends up like roblox or gary's mod. It's an interesting concept in theory, but I feel like you need to prove that you have a good game in order to prove you have a good platform and draw modders.
Now I see why I was frozen on one server, doughhh..Good shooter though..
A crazy thought: the Russian side has had nearly four times as many KIA in the last 14 months as the US had throughout the 8 years they were in Vietnam.
Lol source?
@@alexeusebio6048 pretty much all the worlds intelligence except for Russia. And even Russia official numbers show more kia than the Us lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan combined
squad has PMC mod lol
They made some updates now there’s vehicles better modded maps and the Ukraine conflict mod is so much more fun and immersive
Wagner is either super well equipped or really poorly equipped. The prisoners get what they can dig up, the actual contractors get peer or near peer to the USA.
The Battle of Khasham saw a few hundred wagner mercs go up against 40 us troops and in a few hours loose a hundred troops to no US losses.
I wouldn’t say peer to USA, but they do get equipment at least equivalent to a contracted professional Russian soldier.
Also Ukrainan forces are varied. It’s not a binary choice between shit and well equipped as Wagner group but I think the best way to portray would be
A: not at all because real people are dying and it’s insensitive to make a video game that makes light of it
Or if you must, just show the best each faction has to offer. Ukrainian regulars against Wagner professionals
@@wormcatman8652 it was 200 actually. And the engagement consisted almost entirely from U.S, artillery, helicopters, and air support, I think drone strikes too. The US soldiers on the ground didn’t even fight the Wagner troops because the Wagner troops had been blown to pieces and retreating before they even saw the U.S. soldiers.
@@wormcatman8652
Iirc the U.S.A. troops had artillery and helicopter gunships, Wagner forces were just light inf.
Wagner expected Russian air and army assets to assist, they didn't know they were attacking an American stronghold they thought it was a Syrian faction. Russia found out last minute(?), Pulled off their stuff to avoid the obvious, and either couldn't or didn't tell the PMC in time.
Basically the mercs got Bay if Pigs'd.
However, I have not studied this event in detail, so I may be wrong.
@@wormcatman8652
I just read the Wikipedia article on the battle you mentioned and it's very different so I must be thinking of something else (or nonexistent).
That said it's very different to what you describe too.
TLDR for the battle of Khasham:
Wagner were a part of an army made of Pro-Syrian Government forces, building up on the Euphrates River to attack Syrian Rebels and U.S.A. troops in a fortification.
The American coalition won spectacularly in no small part thanks to a LOT of air power, on that everyone agrees. Your numbers are wild though, it's pretty clear that both sides had a few hundred soldiers and the PMC at worst lost a few dozen men.
Sadly OHD is so bad. The AI just runs down scripted paths, reacts weird and unnatural and the worst part is the maps/gun feeling. You have to pay for most of the maps and the guns feel sooooo bad. Its so sad tbh
Emmm totally can have your own opinion but one thing you said is just plain wrong, this whole game is free and the source is also free so people can make anything they like with the frame work this game has so far and it's also stated alot of times that this is a work in progress game so there will be a lot of progress made to make it the experience we the community would like to see and it's implications are also a pretty big deal like if not for big companies to take notice it's a glimmer of hope for people interested in doing their own things rather than waiting to be spoon fed the next "insert game" and be disappointed again that it's a rushed mess for €70 but anyways have a good day and try to spread facts rather than lie's :)
this is not true??
not scripted paths just quickest way to the flag. they can go anywhere they just done becuase they are basic. they have a full time dev working on that
@@schwarzerbaron6293 idk what you're talking about but I didn't pay for the game and I have access to ALL of the maps
but you know that before the war in ukraine, wagner group was a respected special operations military contractors? They really had good equipment
not was.
@@cdgncgnwas. Wagner literally doesn’t exist anymore