SHAHED 136 drone engine TEAR DOWN

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  • @markrice41
    @markrice41 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    As a person in manufacturing for 43 years, I am fascinated by this video. I conclude by the level of quality in this engine, especially the scuffing on the cylinder wall, that this engine could only last as long as one tank of fuel. It is a one speed, one purpose, one use engine.

    • @brandonhoszkiw9395
      @brandonhoszkiw9395 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Similar engine to my mini bike as a kid

    • @Brabant076
      @Brabant076 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And there are LOTS of those engines around, including all the different variations of it.

    • @boiboi8567
      @boiboi8567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sok tau loooo kwonn tholl bapajk muuu

    • @teslastellar
      @teslastellar หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      That's what it's designed to be, a one way drone. Why spend more money on it? Western weapons companies would've spent ridiculous amounts of money on that engine in order to charge the taxpayers as much as possible. What you see here, however, is the optimum use of resources to reduce costs.

    • @peterbustin2683
      @peterbustin2683 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Indeed. The propeller directly on the crank had me laughing.

  • @pablodelsegundo9502
    @pablodelsegundo9502 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I couldn't help but cackle at "Korea by FAG".
    Seriously, though, I've never seen a demonstration like this on any other Ukraine channel. Awesome way to both distinguish yourselves and put your expertise to work. Now, if only we had a means of eliminating Shaheds as cheaply as they were made...

    • @UA_Courage
      @UA_Courage  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hehe, sorry about “Korea by FAG”))) actually I misspelt to pronounce it F.A.G, but yeah, funny 😂😂😂

    • @MrJdsenior
      @MrJdsenior ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How about cheaper? And they do, just not enough of them in Ukraine. It is called the Gepard tank. In fact the ammo to down the drone probably costs far less than the drone. The German Gepard is the one that I know is in use now in Ukraine, and it has not only taken out drones, but at least two cruise missiles, one an Iskander, IIRC. Contrary to popular belief those only fly around mach 2 most of the way to the target, and go hypersonic in the terminal phase.
      Here is a video, where the idiot runs his mouth over the Gepard in operation (I HATE that), but it does show a cruise missile being downed by that machine. It shoots a large caliber explosive round, so the bang for the buck is very high on drones, and ABSURDLY high on missiles. The range isn't super far, so you need a lot of them to protect large areas. You might be able to do a large city with three or four, I don't remember the exact max intercept range/altitude, as they both matter, more of one leaves less for the other.
      As for next gen stuff, there are some promising laser designs, one coming out is in the megawatt class, pulsed. It doesn't take very long at a million watts in a fairly small spot to down a missile, and there each shot should be pretty inexpensive. I don't know how they power it, but ABL was chemically pumped. Like I said, the megawatter is coming, but there are already laser systems for drones in place on US fighting vehicles, some of them, and systems on subs, as well. Probably other vehicles and ships as well, but I'm not that up on them. Here is the vid. If you want to hear one, just search 'Gepard radar guided gun Ukraine'. There are a couple of YT vids shot at night, where you can hear the thing operate, and it also looks really cool because you can see the tracer rounds (again, IIRC). Other countries manufacture defensive weapons that work in this manner.
      th-cam.com/video/mF_Upn9rmjU/w-d-xo.html
      Cheers. That bearing manufacturer has been around for quite a long time, and you can find them in auto parts stores everywhere.

    • @greenboy1916
      @greenboy1916 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know I can’t just modify my shotgun and shoot down one of those drones, but I’m sure somebody in Alabama is working on how to do just that.

    • @LafayetteCCurtis
      @LafayetteCCurtis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Ukrainians probably won't tell you about it but I'd be surprised if they're not developing fixed-wing drones slightly faster than the Shaheds as some kind of cheap-arse SAM. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's nowhere near ready for field testing either since the tricky part is building affordable guidance and proximity fuse systems.

    • @grahammukuyu4660
      @grahammukuyu4660 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MrJdseniorself praise with your useless western wonder weapons

  • @tomaszstarling
    @tomaszstarling 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    They don't need quality parts because the engine will run only for what 24 hours maximum before it hits a target so quality control can be subpar

    • @agnelomascarenhas8990
      @agnelomascarenhas8990 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And the ones that fail still keep Air Defense busy.

  • @ryelor123
    @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The presence of an additional plate with fins on the top of the engine suggests, at least to me, that they might be using sand casting for the cylinders instead of lost foam casting or diecasting. Its much easier if all the fins are parallel. Considering that the metal used is of decent quality due to the crosshatch still being visible, I'm guessing they bought aluminum in the form of something else like other small engines and melted it down. That way they could get a metal that's high quality without there being a visible supply chain.
    Find out which alloy of aluminum is best used for sandcasting as opposed to diecasting and you'll probably be able to help track down the source of the metal. Also check the fuel-oil ratio of the remaining fuel. If they're running something like 50:1, then that's probably a very nice alloy and thus the aluminum had to have come from melted down engine blocks. Do some analysis of the metal's alloy and see if the metal came from car engines or other small engines. Since they're probably made with sand casting instead of diecasting, the amount of metal molten at one time in their shops is probably relatively little. This means that you might be able to track down the exact source of the aluminum used down to the specific Chinese foundry. Every material used has its own 'fingerprint' that can be tracked down.
    Here's other ideas I have. Analyze the copper wire in the generator. Copper wire is usually made of virgin copper and not scrap copper in order to keep it pure as possible. If the wire isn't perfectly pure, then that means they're using scrap copper. Analyze the crankshaft too since that can help narrow down the original factory its source metal came from. Check the machining to see if it was done with carbide tooling or with tool steel. I'm sure machinists know what to look for there. Also test the hardware used. Generally I'd expect them to use the best nuts, bolts, and screws. Maybe check the alloy to see if its the same as professionally-made hardware from a Chinese factory. If so, then the screws might have been intentionally made off-center in order to give the false impression they were made in a much junkier factory in some place like India.
    Just be aware that they know you'll recover the pieces and look for clues. Its easy to misdirect people by stamping incorrect brand names onto bearings and other parts but its much more difficult to do that perfectly when microscopic analysis could tell if the letters and numbers stamped were done by the same machines in the factories the parts purport to come from. Its also more difficult to hide the origin of the metal used since altering it could compromise its material qualities.
    I think these parts were made in China but disguised to look as though they came from other countries. If the threads on the screws, for instance, were clearly rolled or cut by fancy machinery that would be out of place for a factory that can't center the hex hole in the head, then you know some manipulation is going on.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Cylinders are probably gravity die cast. Sand casting would be *really* hard to do with that close spacing and depth of fins. It would need *real* skill to pull it off.
      The deepest fins I’ve done were about an inch deep. The sand wasn’t the best…

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Secondly, those bore and stroke dimensions look *very* familiar. Seems there’s a Stihl chainsaw engine having a 60 x 44 stroke. I think it’s an 088, 124cc or so.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Why can't recycled copper be refined to the purity level of new copper?

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joewoodchuck3824 easily. Most copper is electro-refined prior to use.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@dennisyoung4631 That's what I thought, but the original post stated that recycled copper couldn't be used to make wire. Oh well.

  • @hardtackbeans9790
    @hardtackbeans9790 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Being an old aeronautical engineer, this is great stuff, Ira. I can imagine lots of other 'gear-heads' lapping this stuff up. LOL!! Very good video, Guys!!

  • @olaf927
    @olaf927 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It make sense to compose with cheapest parts when planning to build a suicide drone. one way ticket is enough

    • @UA_Courage
      @UA_Courage  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The problem is not in the cheapest parts, but it's mixed with expensive and high-quality ones. This means and proves that this is Iran sh***t that was bought and collected under sanctions.

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@UA_Courage The crosshatching in the cylinders still being visible suggests that they're using a good aluminum alloy and it must be sourced from a reliable, consistent source. Running 2 stroke engines hard without them having a chance to heat up is very rough on the pistons and cylinder walls due to the pistons expanding much more quickly than the cylinders. So the fact that the cylinders aren't all scored up means that the metal used is high quality.
      Anyway, analyze the makeup of the alloys used especially of the cast parts. Its probably not difficult to narrow down which Chinese factory supplied the metal or if its being sourced from some other consistent source such as a certain model of cars being scrapped. Also keep in mind that the builders of it intend to deceive you as to the origins of the parts. Off-centered screw heads could've intentionally been made that way and stamped numbers and brand names could've been forged. Since high quality bearings are very important for something like this, evidence that the numbers are forged is a very valuable piece of information since not many factories can produce such parts reliably.
      My guess is a handful of Chinese companies are manufacturing the key components and the aluminum for casting but they're trying to make it look like everything is coming from places like Japan or India. I have no doubt the actual engine cylinders were cast in Iran. Check to see what casting technique was used since they all have telltale signs of the methods used. Diecastings will have porosity and probably highly consistent crystal growth due to consistent cooling of the metal. Lost foam and sand casting will have much less porosity. Also a chemical analysis of the surface can suggest what release agent was used. Diecasting relies on a chemical spray that I believe can permeate into the metal while sand casting is going to use talc and lost foam will use plaster. The wooden prop is made of a tree of a certain species. The width of the rings can suggest if the trees were fertilized and farmed or if they were more old-growth.
      If something looks obvious, always be aware that the people who built those drones and the people who supplied the materials all have an incentive to deceive you. However, they can't hide everything. Make sure to analyze as many of those drones as possible to check for consistency of the manufacturing.

    • @kakwa
      @kakwa 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's always a balancing act. Yes this motor can have a designed life of ~10 hours. But compromise too much on precision, and you start to affect performance (range in particular) and even manufacturing becomes more expensive because every part needs to be adjusted and hand-fitted.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@olaf927 while “cheap” is a requirement, the drone must also be “reliable” as well. It has to *get* to the target.

  • @gcrauwels941
    @gcrauwels941 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As an engine guy, this was awesome. Denys sent me.

  • @Quroxify
    @Quroxify 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    In my younger days I flew Gyrocopters. The Bensen B-8M. M the or McCullough. The engine was straight off a target drone which was a RCAT (radio controlled aerial target) which is a fixed wing drone. Guys in jets would shoot at them on the bombing range. The McCullough 4318 is a 100 cubic inch, 4 cylinder opposed two stroke. Engine weight is 78 pounds. It came in two kinds 72 and 90 HP. Swinging a 48" 27 pitch wooden prop. Cruise speed 45 kts burning 4.5 gph. Those were the best days. Love flying FPY now. Cheaper and safer but not really the same.

  • @Contrajoe
    @Contrajoe ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was a fascinating look into the technical side of the war. You can learn a lot by examining the manufacturer's marks and quality of workmanship. The guy on the right at the end gets 500 points for his mario shirt

  • @Loli4lyf
    @Loli4lyf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    cheap, highly accurate, deals as much damage as expensive missiles or airstrike, quick to deploy and once again extremely cheap. ladies and gentlemen, this is the future of warfare.

    • @H33t3Speaks
      @H33t3Speaks หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ukraine stops almost every Shaheed used against them. These drones are now a mere nuisance and very expensive for Russia to deploy.

    • @theotheleo6830
      @theotheleo6830 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@davidelliott5843 They're meant to decrease Ukrainian air defense supplies.

    • @noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024
      @noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidelliott5843 its not about finding its target but about depleting stocks of extremely expensive intercept missiles. Same way these drones are working today to deplete Israel's iron dome system. Once you compromise the defence systems you send in the serious munitions

    • @listerdave1240
      @listerdave1240 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is most definitely not. They are very easy to intercept if you have the right equipment. The only reason the 'right equipment' does not exist in sufficient quantities is because there was never need for it. Now that such drones have been used at scale it is just a matter of time before such equipment becomes widely available which will make this type of weapons obsolete quicker than they became a prominent weapon.

  • @samhorne5184
    @samhorne5184 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Great video, fascinating! Much better to have the wife of the engineer narrating than an AI voice

  • @listerdave1240
    @listerdave1240 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The head being an integral part of the cylinder makes it much easier to manufacture with cheap materials and also saves on some accurate machining which would otherwise be needed. Instead of needing a head gasket to seal the high pressure and temperature within the cylinder you have a seal at the other end, which is cool and does not handle any significant pressure except for that needed to push air into the cylinder during induction. It would probably work fine even without a gasket at all as even with a poor metal to metal seal very little of the air fuel mixture would leak out.

  • @elimeir8558
    @elimeir8558 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As somebody who repairs vehicles for a living and is also a machinist by trade, this is a pretty nice video.
    The engine is not designed to last long so quality is very minimal. I am surprised at the expensive bearings that were used, It could be because Chinese bearings are generally of very low quality, Indian bearings, however, are a very high quality.

  • @Indiskret1
    @Indiskret1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great English narration, thanks a lot for making the effort! Greetings from Sweden, I pray for Ukraine every day. I hope our military and humanitarian aid has made a difference.

  • @ryelor123
    @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Be careful assuming that the markings are accurate. If I were the Iranian government, I'd put false markings on parts like bearings and pistons in order to misdirect any supply-chain analysis. In fact, it could be the Chinese manufacturers doing it considering that they'd face zero consequences due to it being a government contract with Iran and not consumer products.

    • @pedtrog6443
      @pedtrog6443 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I doubt the Iranians really give a damn. The bearings are likely widely available for multiple uses. Incidentally, those bearings would be very difficult to swap markings on and even trying to remove the original marks would risk damaging them

  • @nelju10
    @nelju10 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Beside the quality of the engine we shouldn't forget the destiny of itself. Is a disposable unit with the cheapest manufacturing concept possible meanwhile being a very efficient one.

  • @ironclay3939
    @ironclay3939 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Yes it was poor quality but it only had to work for an hour then explode

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the metal used was of a higher quality. Probably cast from melted down car parts or small engines. Also, just because the aircrafts have a short life time, they still have to have decent engines. Usually in engines, poorly-made parts wear out very quickly and those engines are run for a very long period of time on their one and only flight.

    • @ironclay3939
      @ironclay3939 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ryelor123 These only need one flight ... but yes Probably cast from melted down car parts or small engines and it's something K1VV1's are going to have to learn when their 5 eyes partners Turn On Them

  • @greenboy1916
    @greenboy1916 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very informative. The Iranians have had to be very resourceful for the last several decades due to sanctions so it’s interesting to show how they’re different sources come together.

    • @jackjones9460
      @jackjones9460 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Iran and previously S. Africa show how sanctions can make countries more self sufficient! Unintended consequences.

  • @johnmckeel8603
    @johnmckeel8603 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The grinding inside the piston walls may be removal of material to balance the engine. We did it all the time in automotive.

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Unlikely, as it appears to be the same on all pistons.

    • @jflo4073
      @jflo4073 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You'd be better off shaving the bottom of the piston skirt for that.

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      nope. definitely removing part numbers... did THAT all the time when brazing up tungsten carbide tools... generic castings to several merchants, certain clients... you ground the numbers off.

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@paradiselost9946 Kind of pointless for them to remove the numbers when pistons are made from tightly controlled alloys that can be analyzed in a lab so that the exact factory of origin can be determined.

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ryelor123 ha ha ha ha ha... "tightly controlled alloys" in something thats intended for once time only operation... cool, got ya. no, theyre not made from any old scrap, they use a "tightly controlled " alloy of proprietary ingredients.... sure they do...

  • @thepaperboy9009
    @thepaperboy9009 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great quality recording of the audio voice over! Well translated, well written, well presented. 👍👍🙏 Engine is pretty primitive, basic and low tech!

  • @PlaywithJunk
    @PlaywithJunk หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    A German engine in an Iranian drone, shot down in Ukraine by US guns...

    • @FarmerDrew
      @FarmerDrew 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We are the world
      We are the children

    • @fktaufik9252
      @fktaufik9252 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Military industrial complex. This is how war brings profit to everyone

    •  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      German Model Made in China.

    • @OffGridInvestor
      @OffGridInvestor 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Globalisation at its finest

  • @drd4059
    @drd4059 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The bearings look like critical parts. I wonder whether a special grade of bearings can be supplied to Iran that are designed to fail after X minutes of use?

    • @UA_Courage
      @UA_Courage  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They are mostly the same, there are no special modifications for failure. I'm sure they imported as double-use supplies.

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now that would be a very cunning plan.

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      easy. just supply standard clearance bearings for crankshaft bearings... they get hot, expand, and seize.
      can set the cages of little end bearings to let go at certain RPM... 11500rpm on an RD 350 was considered "back off, and cruise into the pits as gently as possible whilst its still running or that simple bearing replacement will become a complete teardown and rebuild..." the cages fractured at around that RPM.

    • @ottopartz1
      @ottopartz1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some government agencies might be able to limit supplies of those specific bearings on the open market and force the ruzzian and iranians to buy the low quality Chinese ones.

  • @pomonabill220
    @pomonabill220 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Good to see you guys again! That was a great teardown and very interesting!
    Strange but fascinating to see what ruZZia is using in the drones they get.
    Stay safe and well!
    God Bless you guys!
    Glory to Ukraine!
    Slava Ukraine!!!

  • @bigcheese781
    @bigcheese781 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    50Hp from 550cc twostroke is really underachieving performance. Those numbers belong to the early 1970s.

    • @puckcat22679
      @puckcat22679 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      That's the specs of the German aviation engine the Iranians copied. That German engine is intended for regular aircraft use. Aviation engines are designed with reliability and durability in mind, with performance taking a back seat to pretty much everything else. The original German version of this engine could probably be tuned to produce far more power, but it wouldn't be as durable and reliable.
      Of course, the Iranian copy isn't concerned with any of that. All they care about it building it as cheaply as possible, since it's a one time use engine. All it has to do is get the drone to the scene of the crash, so to speak.

    • @johnycash8291
      @johnycash8291 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Primitive people somehow stole parts and ideas to make a working machine. 😂

    • @abyssmanur3965
      @abyssmanur3965 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You know the Persians invented higher level math thousands of year ago don't you?​@@johnycash8291

  • @BLKBRDD
    @BLKBRDD 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Scary that Japanese and European engineering suppliers are shipping components to Iran. This is a really informative analysis. Hopefully it leads to more pressure to block the supply of parts to countries that are supporting Russia.

  • @and9290
    @and9290 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I wouldn't call that prop mount "old fashioned" rc and full scale still use and make them.

    • @fredfred2363
      @fredfred2363 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah. And i wonder why only a two bladed prop? It could have a higher tip speed (without going supersonic), with more blades and reduced diameter.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Generally the larger you make the prop diameter the better the propulsive efficiency. If a 2 bladed prop can absorb the power without supersonic tip speed or inefficiently wide blades it is probably the best option.

  • @totokingkong1
    @totokingkong1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a very important video. Questions should be asked. How Iran was able to import critical components for its drone from Japan an Korea for example. Good job on this teardown. As a mechanic myself it was very informative and very well made.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ! I love that your channel has such different content than all the other channel. When you or Genya talk about mechanical things, I don't know much about it but through your interesting videos, I might be learning.

  • @davebracey2027
    @davebracey2027 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent, detailed informative video. Thanks a lot!

  • @FarmerDrew
    @FarmerDrew 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Looks like the inside of almost every Chinese motorcycle I've seen

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very InTeReStiNg... and a outstanding English description/translation. Thank you.

  • @DenysDavydov
    @DenysDavydov ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great!

  • @zeerocool
    @zeerocool 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    7:55 again with the assumptions of knowing the other side. How do you know what they know? How would you distinguish between a worker without knowledge vs a worker instructed to not worry about the 2HP loss because the extra work to machine the parts would not make a significant difference in the application of the drone? Its a crude device that is going to do cruel things...why would you expect maximal or even above average quality? Such drones will be sent in groups to ensure a salvo accomplishes the assigned goal. Salvo size will take into account natural failure rates, probability of being downed by anti-aircraft systems, and the desired probability of striking the target. As long as the failure rates are stable, predictable salvo sizes can be calculated, and sent. In the end it is not the individual quality of individual drones that will matter. I have seen similar trade-offs in my motorcycle -- and it was made by Honda who know something about precision.

  • @jamesbruce1183
    @jamesbruce1183 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A 66cm propellor is very short. Probably very inefficient at 7500RPM so I would guess the engine runs slower than that and turns a larger prop. Have you been able to get enough of a propeller to estimate the length?
    Timing can be controlled electronically with slightly after TDC for starting and then advancing with RPM.

  • @aplacecalledfear
    @aplacecalledfear ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Limbachs are used in a lot of UAVs and even certified aircraft. Nice job on the disassembly vid. Ukraine is going to win this war and soon.

  • @AndyRRR0791
    @AndyRRR0791 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd be surprised if this was really made in Iran. I rather suspect it's an import from China and it may even be a "geniuine" Limbach engine given that the Chinese own and operate Limbach now, I believe. The cylinder barrels (and pistons) are repurposed chainsaw items from Stihl or possibly equivalent aftermarket pattern parts. The standard barrel does not have sufficient cooling for the aircraft application because it relies on the aircraft dynamic pressure for cooling flow rather than a forced convection fan as in the chainsaw application hence the cylinder tops are machined flat and additional heat sinking is attached.

    • @eugeneoreilly9356
      @eugeneoreilly9356 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not repurposed Stihl component as Stihl chainsaw engines like Husqvarna cylinders and head is cast as a single piece.The carburettor is typical two stroke with a pump diaphragm on one side and a metering diaphragm on the other which operates the single jet needle valve.

  • @Screwball70
    @Screwball70 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fins on the cylinder and head are very efficient in air cooling especially at speed and high altitude, the type of two stroke engine (or some call a one stroke) are really good and reliable, the way air/fuel is scavenged is excellent for an aircraft as there is no problem of floats bouncing about and cutting fuel off that happens in the old two stroke engine/carburetor set up.

  • @jflo4073
    @jflo4073 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The lockwiring on the prop is standard practice in aviation to secure bolts. Other than that, everything is too low tech/generic to be able to locate something that could disable production by sanctioning. I suppose, the best thing would be to replicate it and throw it the other way.

  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only reason they aren't stacking multiple Kart engines instead of making it themselves is no one will sell them kart engines . Two 125cc kart engines would produce 60~80hp for less weight but would need a simple belt reduction drive to the propeller

  • @Jemacaza
    @Jemacaza หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very informative video.. thank you. Please don’t enclose any other enigine flaws. Iran should keep these flaws in production.

    • @eugeneoreilly9356
      @eugeneoreilly9356 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Like? It's a single use item.There is no flaws as it's maximum design run time is 10 hour.

  • @fredwupkensoppel8949
    @fredwupkensoppel8949 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:33 Didn't know that was outdated, thanks!

  • @phongnguyen007
    @phongnguyen007 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the video i'm looking for, as a fearsome weapon of this war.
    Thank for the great video

  • @agustsigurdsson8592
    @agustsigurdsson8592 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting to see the name of manufacturers who supply parts for these engines. I will try to avoid doing any business with them.

  • @thisisus.504
    @thisisus.504 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Greetings and warm wishes from the UK. This is fascinating. Thank you and stay safe.

  • @agoogleaccount2861
    @agoogleaccount2861 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    it's sand molasses cast i bet looks like the rest. The Carb guts etc looks to be motorbike and outboard motor parts probably running it on gas with mothballs dissolved in it doing so would allow such a low quality out of spec engine to easily start and run.. but will kill the motor .. its only going one way once so it doesn't matter

  • @ludmilascoles1195
    @ludmilascoles1195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice reverse engineering jobs I will have to pass this one along to some Olson colleagues of mine

  • @berntsteinmetz8564
    @berntsteinmetz8564 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good luck guys !
    thx for the video and please stay strong there !

  • @clivelee4279
    @clivelee4279 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The lock wire on the propeller bolts is incorrectly fitted .

  • @BarryGrumbine
    @BarryGrumbine ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks 👍

  • @johanb.4636
    @johanb.4636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kind of good music under the video.................... Everybody understands now the origin of this device!

  • @brandonhoszkiw9395
    @brandonhoszkiw9395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Дякую вам обом! За те, що ви витратили час і енергію на ці відео. Слава Україні, Героям Слави. Love from America! 🇺🇦🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲

  • @molnarriki4876
    @molnarriki4876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You give them good info about things they do wrong

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's always a chance the airflow restriction was intentional.

  • @lukaz254
    @lukaz254 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They dont need high quality parts😂😂😂
    They want to achieve low cost but effective...

  • @turkeyboyjh1
    @turkeyboyjh1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That would be a cool mini bike engine

    • @dervideoonkel6794
      @dervideoonkel6794 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Since it is designed just for high rpm, you would not be able to run it at low or medium speed with sufficient power. The engine is not suitable for ground vehicles.

    • @turkeyboyjh1
      @turkeyboyjh1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dervideoonkel6794 low gearing makes any motor work for a ground vehicle

    • @pat8988
      @pat8988 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be fun to play with! Lots of potential for mods.

    • @stvrob6320
      @stvrob6320 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      not really, It would wear out in no time, and probably has hardly any torque until its close to max rpm.

  • @MrRobertjparsons
    @MrRobertjparsons 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was a very old used engine, repurposed as a drone motor, nothing fancy. No mystery going on here. Once they blow up all the used ones, they will use plain old Harbor Freight motors.

  • @OneJamesH
    @OneJamesH ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the translation to English

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating!

  • @michaelgro5474
    @michaelgro5474 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder why Iran doesn't use bearings made in Iran. One first glance it ought to be a bad idea to rely on imports for critical materials for defence. But they may have good reason:
    a) They are unable to produce them in quality/quantity
    b) They expect their facility to be destroyed
    c) The drones are mainly for export, not for the defence of Iran so they are not critical for defence (indeed, Russia uses them in they way Germany used V1 and V2 in WWII - as an instrument of terror)
    I am with (b). They want to keep their vulnerable industry out of this.

    • @rezah336
      @rezah336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol, destroyed by who? you cant touch Iran in whichever weak country you live

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 หลายเดือนก่อน

      c) henry ford was happily supplying the germans with all their bearing requirements by first shipping everything to brazil... so he was profiting from both sides, dont you worry...
      yay! democracy!

  • @manitobaman5588
    @manitobaman5588 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good job. Thanks from Canada.

  • @MatthewTaylor3
    @MatthewTaylor3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @6:17 The lower quality isn't critical for a one way trip to absolute destruction.

  • @DetroitMicroSound
    @DetroitMicroSound หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting stuff! Amazing how low the cylinder casting quality can be, and be within the acceptable standard. Fissures in the cylinder wall, would normally be completely unacceptable.

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the cracks were due to it crashing. The crosshatch is still there so the metal had to have been of decent quality. Its also not difficult for decent factories to intentionally make parts look like they're made in lower-quality factories in order to obscure the original manufacturer. I'd expect engine fins to be overly thick if built by substandard workers.

  • @phbrinsden
    @phbrinsden 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating. Well done.

  • @gomergomez1984
    @gomergomez1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting I saw the original video, but this one is six days old and it just showed up.

  • @-Deena.
    @-Deena. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent thank you 🧡

  • @LisaNH934
    @LisaNH934 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow...very cool 👍 are these the ones that are sometimes called 'mopeds' ? Have you heard one overhead? That seems much larger/heavier than I imagined. Great video. Thank you guys.
    🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini

    • @UA_Courage
      @UA_Courage  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, this one exactly what called “moped” or “bledina”. Luckily I don't hear one in real life, but I saw videos with this sound.

    • @LisaNH934
      @LisaNH934 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@UA_Courage thank you for your reply! 💙💛 I am glad you don't hear them in real life!
      Stay safe!

  • @RogerKeulen
    @RogerKeulen 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Think the sparking mechanism is detectable from miles away.

  • @PARS556
    @PARS556 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    این یک بمب پرنده هست موتور سیکلت نیست که هر روز سوارش بشید؟! . موتور این پهباد یک بار مصرف هست .فقط برای رسیدن به هدف و انفجار .مهندس معکوس ایران حساب می‌کند.که این پهباد ب ای رسیدن به هدف چند ساعت باید دوام بیارد .

    • @mjarefi
      @mjarefi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      همین کارارو میکنن که هر عدد موشک استاندارد سامانه پاتریوت پنج میلیون دلار در میاد 😂

  • @davidquirk8097
    @davidquirk8097 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks like a well optimised design. Cost Vs function Vs durability. I don't suppose, in the intended market, there's much Factory Acceptance Testing done so few HP here or there won't be noticed. Aero engines are never that special, if the Avco Lycoming was wanting to go by.

  • @PlaywithJunk
    @PlaywithJunk หลายเดือนก่อน

    The RC servo would be interesting to examine.

  • @ekim000
    @ekim000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating insights. Thank you.

  • @davismichaelwayne7646
    @davismichaelwayne7646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video.
    Thanks.
    Your husband seems to really know a lot about engines.

  • @jonremmers1828
    @jonremmers1828 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FAG are usually great quality parts! Crazy to see FAG in this ”motor”!

  • @qanon_qanon
    @qanon_qanon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would be nice to know the overall weight of the engine to compare to rotax type engines or even motorcyle engines.

  • @zebracherub
    @zebracherub 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That typical font on the part numbers is definitely Chinese, looks like a lot of the basic metalwork was from China. I didn’t expect those to be so crude and cheaply made !

  • @JFar-jf6qq
    @JFar-jf6qq 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really interesting when you think of almost everyone today is using much more complex electronics that allow control options for nearly anything in real time and almost unlimited flight if using solar panels and batteries and some use manned and unmanned satellite link ups…. with no fuel restrictions it can fly independently

  • @obsidianjane4413
    @obsidianjane4413 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the analysis and translation. Героям слава!

  • @JasonBlack66
    @JasonBlack66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video!😀

  • @malcolmcarter1726
    @malcolmcarter1726 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now this is fascinating to me. Limbach 550cc 2Ts are very reliable. Chainsaw carbs make sense due to their inverted happy operation.
    These cheap n cheerful lil motors can be perfect for ulralights. But Im thinking Motorcycle or a micro car.
    Whack four expamsion chambers on, four Mikunis, windowed pistons and reed valve induction (and a turbo is doable) and see what occurs!

  • @getprobed838
    @getprobed838 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it would be interesting if you could get several downed drones and scavenge all good parts and rebuild a working engine.

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun771 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well I really can't see how this kind of technology should be compliant with any kind of even remotely up-to-date environmental codes!

  • @woodennecktie
    @woodennecktie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if you measure the diametre of the piston and pictures of the shape , perhaps it's very simple to find the leak .... there are not so many manufactures who make these in this quality

  • @timandsuzidickey9358
    @timandsuzidickey9358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    intersting... thanks !!

  • @Zoli049
    @Zoli049 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A wooden wedge is a simple engine. It is designed for one trip. Maybe the bearings can be traced. 🤔

  • @fishermansbuddy3785
    @fishermansbuddy3785 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Take a close look @ the font style of the numbers on the cylinder to guess what country made those

  • @mingyaowu7720
    @mingyaowu7720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the camera used in the drone?. Can let us know as I am quite curious. Don't tell me another camer a like their Orlan 30 a canon dslr camera?.😅

    • @LafayetteCCurtis
      @LafayetteCCurtis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Shaheds don't have man-in-the-loop control (at least not in the base models currently being used in Ukraine) so there's no need for a camera either. Just a GNSS positioning module and maybe some cheap INS based on smartphone accelerometers.

  • @marvinegreen
    @marvinegreen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found the video fascinating. On TH-cam I follow the war in Ukraine and the auto industry, particularly EVs. In that space your video would be called a SHAHED 136 drone engine TEAR DOWN. I would find any Russian drone or other equipment tear downs of particular interest. On TH-cam the company that does Tear Downs best is called Munro Live: www.youtube.com/@MunroLive/videos

    • @UA_Courage
      @UA_Courage  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you) I see, we will know it now 🤗

    • @MrJdsenior
      @MrJdsenior ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UA_Courage Look up 'Fagot missile', and 'van' if you haven't seen it and are in need of a good laugh. That is some Road Runner cartoon Wile E. Coyote stuff there (the cartoon is pretty funny, too). I guarantee the Ukrainians in that van were breathing a sigh of relief, and probably laughing their asses off, as well. On another YT channel I watch, the guy said, I'm not going to say the name of this missile, I'm just going to spell it out.

  • @V.T.F.W
    @V.T.F.W 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Гарна англійська!👍

  • @KPsTboy
    @KPsTboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be interesting to see if it evolved in any way with the upcoming 'Sunflower 200' Shahed copy from China.

  • @CrucesNomad1
    @CrucesNomad1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never stop learning.

  • @and9290
    @and9290 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's a of misinformation in this video or it's been VERY poorly translated. I see a lot of mistakes.

    • @fredfred2363
      @fredfred2363 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disagree. Everything made sense to me 🇬🇧

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched a year after publication...
    How is the fuel supply delivered? Is there any carburettor heating (to stop condensation/freezing)? How heavy is it?
    Is the crankcase manufactured in Iran?
    Good video!

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 หลายเดือนก่อน

      standard diaphgram pumping carbs...
      no, its a standard two stroke crank scavenged schneurle ported design that never flies at a high enough altitude to warrant extra heat. in fact, bolting teh carbs to teh crank directly without some sort of insulator tends to cause vapour lock...

  • @Joemama555
    @Joemama555 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any way to tell if they are adding nitro to the gas to improve range?

  • @NickSpud
    @NickSpud 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has the throttle servo any markings to reveal the manufacturer? I saw another tear down video of an identical servo from a shahed, and it included a ST Microelectronics (France) processor.

  • @peterolson8350
    @peterolson8350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cylinders from a old Stihl 090 chainsaw

  • @BobAbc0815
    @BobAbc0815 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like a flying Trabant.

  • @davidrasmussen2975
    @davidrasmussen2975 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It only needs to run for a few hours.

  • @antoniolsn2518
    @antoniolsn2518 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Все у нее вери олд технолоджи))
    А как надо было делать одноразовый двухтактный двигатель?

  • @Delgwah
    @Delgwah หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.

  • @naughtiusmaximus830
    @naughtiusmaximus830 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why use carburation instead of fuel injection?

  • @MrJdsenior
    @MrJdsenior ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I call it the sh*thead drone, seems more appropriate, especially now that I've seen some of it. They don't even cast the cooling fins integral with the cylinder. Man, that is some cheap ass crap. I've never even seen that kind of arrangement on an engine before. That was funny as hell, it didn't even look like a dedicated gasket, but something somebody cut out of a piece of gasket paper. In aircraft engines there is always (as far as I know) a thrust bearing of some sort, usually a flat carrier needle type. Maybe they just added it to one of the main bearings here, and I missed it? Using a standard round axial roller for thrust loads is NOT a good idea. I found that out as a kid, when i mistakenly used them for wheel bearings, actually I think they came that way, but they got changed out for tapers rather quickly. :-/
    I can't understand why the crankshaft was bent, given that the rods were slammed over at about 30 degrees when the cylinders sheared off on impact. :-) I'm a little surprised at the Japanese bearings, but I'll bet they were the cheapest, lowest spec/grade available. Maybe they tried Chinese bearings and couldn't make the engine run just the handful of hours that it's use entails? That thing really looks crude. I really enjoyed that they went at the inside of the piston skirts with a die grinder, OMG...that is some precision work, right there.
    Yeah, not impressed with the 'high tech level' of that mount. First off, it is total overkill, and wasteful of material (If it wasn't a machined casting, but a billet part). And the finish on the part was absurdly fine for the job at hand. It looked as good or better than some the the engine internal parts. Then the machining on some of the rotating parts (prop hub?) looks like it was done with an axe, 'cleaned up' with some 36 grit paper, and then thrown around the shop for a while. That hub also looked like the collar was welded on, then a radius machined, and the weld came up short of the machining in multiple places. I can just see the engineering spec. Well collar and radius to 8mm, it is preferable to have the weld machine to a continuous smooth radius, but 20-40% is adequate. And no more than 10% can be totally without weld. Having the weld look like chicken droppings is also not advised, but not a reason for rejection. And no more than 10% of the periphery may have no weld protrusion, at all. My god, I have never seen crap like that, ESPECIALLY on any kind of aircraft, and I'm talking all the way down to RC engines.
    I'm guessing some of those parts were ordered from some guy in a shack, in out in the boonies Russia, a guy without a toilet, running water, and machinery to match. I don't know if that motor sat outside for a long time, but the rusty bolts on the engine mounts were a very nice touch...protective finish, ah, who needs it. Great design on the mount, too, with two opposing bolts.
    WTH was with that washer under the allen bolt, strange rim shape and the collar going up over the bolt head? Maybe some kind of positioner? It also looked like the bolt was about 1/2 way to being seized up in the block (or wherever), unless that white crap is just some kind of grease or loctite, or maybe anti-seize. I've not seen loctite that color, and if it were grease it would probably be lithium, which is about the crappiest grease on the planet. I have seen anti seize in that color (I think), but usually that is black or gray, the stuff I've used. It looks notoriously like what you find in motorcycles stored outside with steel bolts and aluminum blocks, where if you don't have extractors and helicoil kits, you are in some deep doo doo, because they come out snapped in half about 30% of the time given a decade and a half or three, especially the smaller diameter bolts, the 10 mm or smaller head dimensions, and I'm not talking crap designs, materials, and assembly, I'm talking Honda level stuff.
    Nice alignment allowance on the intake port, too. Har, har. Ah, the bolt heads practically drop through the holes, just mount it and forget it, and for god's sake, when you do the final tightening, DO NOT look down the port and make even the slightest adjustment to maintain any semblance of continuous flow. And yes, you are right, especially in high flow ports, I have seen guys taking motorcycle racing engines to every last drop of performance, and one of them said in one of the old six cylinder designs, when he put it on a flow bench, he could actually hear the flow separating and reattaching in one runner, like an organ pipe. He actually ADDED material, slightly shrinking the cross sectional area at a bend, and increased the flow dramatically. That's highest level work, to squeeze every horsepower out, which obviously isn't necessary in production stuff, but this drone is on the FAR other end.
    Good job. Often stuff I don't see anywhere else, as was the case here.

    • @UA_Courage
      @UA_Courage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for such detailed feedback. Love it 🤗

    • @rezah336
      @rezah336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      it's a one time engine.....maybe design is hard for you to understand....it is not designed for quality

    • @baselabdo_5666
      @baselabdo_5666 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its quantity over quality lol they flying 5 drone at the same time you are dumb

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it is only meant to be a one time use engine. all it has to do is propel a drone for a few hundred kilometers and then it's destroyed, of course it's going to be made as cheap as possible, it only needs to last like 1000km before exploding