Logic X And Beatstep Pro As The Ultimate Drum Machine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ย. 2018
- Yoad Nevo shows how to route the Arturia Beatstep Pro into Logic X to allow real-time sound selection of each of the 16 pads on the fly.
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I've been waiting for this since you've talked about it on sonictalk!!! awesome
Having just bought Logic Pro X (and looking to buy the best step pro) I found this both useful and overwhelming. Thanks for the video. I’ll have to save it until I understand both better. On a side note, being able to audition sounds on the fly like this seems like an incredible basic feature the was overlooked in DAWs in general.
Excellent stuff Yoad 👍🏻
Really appreciate the share of this workflow. Many thanks.
Side note: That "separate regions by note pitch" command is neat. I'll be setting a shortcut for that.
Well, that's next weekend gone! - Will be working this out. Thanks to Nick and Yoad for sharing.
My first question has to be - has Yoad's version of Logic been reskinned? It has an Ableton Live look about it, and the ESX24 looks a LOT better!!
With a view to live performance, using Pajens Custom Firmware for the Korg Volca Sample you can do the same with the BSP setting all the pots to CC:50 and each on a different midi channel as per the Volca Samples midi channels. Using the pads in control mode you can "preview" the sound just like this video, once you have set those to notes on each of the separate midi channels. I have set all the drum notes as 60 on each of the different channels on the BSP's setting.
Thanks - makes me want to explore this further. Thank you
Looking forward to the follow up vid with the synths.
Brilliant hack. Would love to see more of his environment set ups.
Great video for the insight into a professional musicians workflow. However, as this is on Logic 9, I cant help wondering if you could do this a bit easier in Logic X using Track stacks or midi effects. Maybe not but it would avoid messing around with the ‘Enviroment’.
Maschine in controller mode can move up and down octaves using the Group buttons.
I believe this workflow is implemented in the Ableton Library. One of the presets is a kit where one can individually select different drum samples per voice. Very, very useful.
Forgive me, do you know any tutorials explaining this?
@@RepublicAllegiance Requires a bit of setting up, but: th-cam.com/video/8TO3z8LtP5U/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this tutorial! Awesome!
Really enjoyed this. Not for the content per se (although I love the thought behind it), but for the fact you get a very talented person talking about a process they use that works for them. Fascinating stuff :)
Thanks really nice tip. More specials please.
This is totally awesome! now all i need is a beat step pro!
Anyone willing to post an easier step-by-step tutorial on how to set up the first pad/knob/midiCh combo, both in Logic Environment and Arturia Midi Control Centre? It'd be much appreciated. Thanks
i second this request haha - i'm sure there has to be a simpler way by now
I third this! Please :)
Is that a Polyend Sequencer buried behind the monitor? And did he customize a Behringer BSR2000 to facet the two faces? I'm so confused.
Very innovative!
Mmm very intresting, I suspect it may work with circuit? I'll give it a go if my brain can take it.
Really cool!
The link for the session file does not work. Can anyone provide a new one?
Can this be done with the minilab mk2?
Brilliant!!!
I'm impressed. I'm pretty good in the environment and this was next level.
Hey @shaneking5610.
Could you/would you upload a project with this environment workflow. I’ve tried this myself numerous times but there is No real manual for the midi environment in logic and it is very very difficult to get a hold on if you haven’t worked with it from the beginning. I know there’s a great deal of work going into it, I just hope somebody could share their knowledge somehow :)
thank you for this video. are there any updates to this setup since this was made in 2018? also, what is the best way to get midi synced up between Logic and Beatsetp pro? I'm having issues with this at the moment.
I was wondering the same thing, I'm curious how this workflow might be updated for the new Drum Machine Designer and step-sequencer in Logic Pro.
Did anyone have any luck setting this up properly from beginning to end? I downloaded the session but no real luck so far :(
Does anyone know if you can use beatstep like this and split all the drums into their own channel in Reason studios DAW?
Anyone tips on how to achieve this with studio one 5 pro? 😢
Managed to make this work. It's a lot of fun. Now I'd like to add a bit of control over the sounds so ideally be able to map say 8 Midi knobs to as many parameters on the EXS24 (i.e. Filter, Envelope etc). Is there a way of having these knobs control the same parameters on different EXS's? (i.e. change Filter with Knob1 on the first EXS-Kick then quickly move on to the second EXS-snare and have the same knob change the Filter there too).
I have tried to make this work but the video is not quite a tutorial if you're not use dto work in the environment (as I am not). Would you maybe provide some kind of template or screenshots of the steps to do this?
You're one of the only people that claim to get to this to work on their own rig. I'm noticing that what Yoad is showing on video is not quite what he's supplying in the download. The download is missing the 2nd Note PF object and the Ctl PF object at the end of the chain. Unfortunately, the Sonicstate guy cut him off just as Yoad was about to explain/show that object. I suspect it has, along with the 2nd Beatstep Input object, something to do with capturing the playback MIDI to continue allowing the changing of cc-to-note values AFTER recording? Is that how this is configured, in 2 parts? Part 1 (before transformation) takes the Beatstep hardware input, and Part 2 also takes the Logic playback as input? Can you share any issues, or what you discovered when you tried to adapt this to your rig?
Could you make a video demonstrating how to set it up?
Thanks.
@@thomaslinder6299 It is frustrating. I wonder why Yoad or Sonicstate released this half done? Did you manage to find a solution?
can anyone explain to me...didnt ableton had a software called logic already??
Thanks! Can we get Arturia to update the firmware to allow the Drum Track knobs to change the MIDI note value per pad? (As opposed to having to plug the BSP into a computer and configuring via MIDI Control app). Who's with me?!?!?! 😂 (storms the castle solo while everyone watches)
Rebel! 😂
Great idea, I’m in
Count me in
I think this is an issue that would have to be addressed with the receiving device, no? If the device doesn't have the ability to change note value in response to MIDI signal, there's nothing a sequencer can do about it. The beatstep is already sending the MIDI value corresponding to the knobs' positions, its a matter of the receiving device to respond to those values.
Join the Arturia forum page and request it after posting this video. It'd be nice to be able to do this with my RX7 or RX5 instead of going into the computer to do it with software center.
Hi there, thanks for video but it is a little complicated for me and I have a question : I have beatstep pro and Arturia drumbrute, the voice of each instrument of drumbrute is a little dry and I want to asign for example reverb or delay to my kick or clap individually (I want it for a live performance). I want to know if I can have 8 input from drumbrute to beatstep (drum channel of beatstep) and then can I have 8 audio track in my daw (Ableton live 10 ) from my beatstep to asign different vsts like delay and reverb to each sound of my drumbrute instruments like kick or clap. (actually I don't have an 8 channel audio cart to do it ). Please help me, thanks alot.
No
Does anyone have some kind of step-by-step guide to this for someone who is relatively new to MIDI and hasn't been using the environment for years? It's really hard to get familiar with the environment 'cause there is no manual anywhere except for a really old one. I've tried to make this work and I've watched the video over and over, I've downloaded the project and tried to find information everywhere, but with no luck. It would be more than awesome if someone had something useful :)
Can you upload the project somewhere please? the link is dead.
This seems kind of complicated for what it achieves in the end. I really appreciate the insight though, thanks a lot:)
This takes 10 minutes in Live and you can save the racks with the samples and drag and drop them into a session. Much more elegant.
Jim Walker how is that done mate? Thanks 🤘🏻
It would interest me why the Interface of Logic here looks quite different to the one I'm used to. I have never seen these Windows for controlling midi as well
If I recall, its in the environment editor and I think you can hide/show those connections, Or if you dont have anything setu then the objects wouldnt be there
Dominic probably means the non-default Logic skin Yoad seems to be using. I wondered about it as well. The "windows for controlling midi" are the Transformer windows from the Environment -- create new transformer, and then double click it.
Thank you both very much!
Great video but this is now possible just with Atlas by algonaut
Yoad Nevo uses my themes and this is what causes Logic interface to look different than the basic look. If you want to refresh your Logic look, you are welcomed to visit my blog: logicproxthemes.blogspot.com
Matthew
Your EXS looks sexy. Did Apple update the UI for EXS24?
what ver of Logic? EXS looks way diff....
hmmm very fidely needs to use too many midi channels and requires a DAW too, would much rather have a standalone instance in Kontakt or something running in isolation on a very small compact custom computer as a solution somehow
One of the reasons I switched to Ableton. Logic has nice features, but simple things like that are so much more straight forward in live
for live beat making sure, but there is so much else wrong with live and it's weak in other areas. Every DAW has it's weaknesses, all of them.
no they are not.. have you tried making one of these samplers in Ableton? its really fiddly!
www.dropbox.com/s/fsckdvfxq9hv110/MEGADRUMZ2.alp?dl=0 if anyone wants one for ableton.
Environments Old School from Logic Audio borns! ¨) The things was so difficult in the past...
what version of logic x is that?
Kabbalistic Village Music Logic 9 I would guess.
Kabbalistic Village Music Or maybe it’s just a different skin on Logic 10.
Ableton Drum Racks.
Been doin this since MIDI was MIDI.
Each DAW has its plus and minus, but for logic users this is interesting as learning a new DAW is time consuming
There was definitely no Ableton Drum Racks in 1983.
@@Heathcliff_henselHiya! ableton as awesome as it is, is still limited in certain ways.. Loop lenghts??..I've just got hands on mpc software, seems nice mixture of linear and looping daw. But most of us who started a while back ended up going from cubase to logic, rightly or wrongly 😆
@@outdoorsandlife4131 its not, its just for us that are too stubborn to learn ableton😉
"Ableton can do"... Shush, the adults are talking!
Nick, I think you accidentally misspelled Yoda’s name!
So BSP used this way is one step closer to a digitakt...mmmm excellent.!
my brain hurts
Too complex for me. Call me old fashioned, but I just put a sample on a separate audio channel in Cubase and then process how I want to. YMMV
I must be missing something here doesn’t Maschine already do all of this?
lol
Do we know why he is doing this? Maschine is not quite as fast as his system. Maybe he thinks Maschine integration with Logic is too cumbersome, etc. No need to call people strong names if you don't really know them and their motives.
No, the Maschine does not do this. The Maschine runs a sequencer inside your sequencer. So your programming it twice. Creating the beat in Maschine, then programming the beat changes as MIDI notes in Logic. Not the same thing.
No because he is using logic not maschine inside of logic.
I have Maschine loaded into Logic and I do this on every project. I mean, it's nice how he has it organized, but that's a lot of behinds the scenes work for something Maschine does pretty naturally.
Analog Rytm
Too difficult to set this shit up. I would take me 3 weeks to get 1 pad on the BSP to play a snare inside logic. Someday it will be easy. Till then, it's hardware for this kid.
Logic is great but this needs to be more streamlined. Dang this look complicated.
Chris Garner maybe complex, but extremely powerful. I wouldn’t trade that for anything!
I know. It's perfect for drum replacement.
Arturias "MIDI Control Center" is horrible. I regret the MINILAB Mk2 because of this "middle-man" software that is buggy and takes too long to set up.
Jesus Christ I think I should just quit now and become a welder