I've done a fair few to my M900ie. An RS has a higher top speed & is a little lighter, but it also vaporises fuel so quickly you have to ride from Station to Station. For me air cooled, simple, lightened, modded internally & custom externally, the 900 is the classic Monster.
I have an 02 750Si.e monster. She’s a blast to ride and has a great purr. Up keep is expensive but you expect it with this Italian pony. After watching whole video I’m heading out to the garage to look at my bike...it’s pouring out :-(
That makes "2" of you from the looks of it ! LOL ! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When it comes to that bike those words couldn't ring truer ! I had the pleasure of spending a half day on one at Laguna. It rode 10X better than it looked..
To be honest, I've not been a fan of the Monster design since they abandoned the original frame. I'm sure the newer models are better bikes, but that original design around the beautiful 851 frame is just about perfect in my eyes.
It’s not just the monster, there’s something... a bit off with Ducati styling the last few years. Most of the bikes have actually got uglier. The supersport is the only one that’s actually ‘pretty’ to me right now, the rest I look at and thing ‘sure it looks premium... but x pervious model was better looking’. With Ducati that matters
🤯 was a returning rider a few years ago. Went looking for a Monster as that was what I wanted when younger and poorer. But it wasn’t the same, didn’t feel right and did not know why... I can’t believe I didn’t pick that up...
To me it was an iconic tank shape and the tail as well. If they had kept those it still resembles monster. Check out the 2015 821 - minimal frame but still monster looks. This would be my choice after having two S2R 800 in the past. If not 821, the 696 is the best of a bunch but a bit on a weak side - also very flimsy with all the plastic.
LOVED my 2011 Monster 696 to bits. Had a set of Leo Vinci pipes, lowered pegs, and a sprocket change to make it more useable around town. I'd say it's the bike I had the absolute most connection with. Quirky and temperamental for sure, but light and an absolute blast to ride.
You nailed it! As a Ducatisti since the 1980's I"ve watched folks often missinform on the true history of Monster . Your score 9/10. The trellis frame change for 2021 IHMO is a mistake, looks like a MT07. Subscribed👍
I have a '17 1200S and was excited to see the new design. Without the trellis frame though it looks very standard and the MT07 is spot on. It's not offensive and I'm sure it rides well but it's missing THAT look.
About a week ago, a friend sent me a picture of the new monster and we spent the next hour discussing and reaching the same conlcusions as you. Apparently the youtube algorythm found out and recommended this video. Thanks to the quality and the humour in the video you have a new sub in Argentina. Cheers!
It's the connoisseurs choice... You get all the bling (SSSA, Tail exhausts) in a relatively modern Ducati engine architecture without breaking the bank
I owned a 2003 M1000 Senna. It was a really nice ride, except for the soft valve guides and resulting lack of compression at 30k miles. By far, the best "monster" is the Honda Hawk GT. It beat the Ducati Monster to market by a few years, had a twin spark engine and single sided swing arm in 1989. Installing a high mount exhaust really showcases the single sided swing arm. It's too bad it was expensive and didn't catch on because it truly was a bike before it's time. How about a breakdown of the sales demise of the Honda Hawk GT? Currently, I'm looking at purchasing a 2000 M900 to add to The Garage of Meaningful Motorcycles
Excellent video, M900ie owner here, such a shame Ducati killed the monster with the latest incarnation... Getting a Scrambler 1100 sport next, as that's more of the monster's natural successor. Great video, subscribed. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
You nailed it with the latest Monster being a mistake. Going away from the trellis frame is almost like changing their name... Let's just hope that the new model doesn't sell too well and they renew it soon!
Unfortunately if the new model doesn’t sell well it’s not really in Ducati or Volkswagen’s vocabulary to admit they fucked up. If it doesn’t sell it’s far more likely they’ll just scrap or replace it rather than go backwards IMhO. Personally I love monsters and started on an M400, which was basically an M600 for more regulated markets. Here in Australia it was super popular because as learners you had to restrict the power, and Ducati did a bit of malicious compliance in fitting the easiest to remove throttle stop ever... I dont think anyone who bought one ever left it in there lol. However they lost me years ago with the fugly headlight. Monsters need a round headlight, make it LED for sure, but not some Dali-inspired melted mess round headlight and trellis frame were the crux of the monster. I personally found it hilarious that when Ducati went for an aero headlight, and then a side exhaust, Suzuki thought, oooh better copy that Suzuki-style! And transformed the sv650 into the gladius lol.
Man, you nailed it. Ducati (and the VW group) killed the Monster. I remember talking to a friend when i heard Ducati had been bought by the germans and saying "These guys are gonna destroy the brand. Trellis frame? Nein, too heavy; Desmodromic distribution? Nein, too expensive." The 2021 Monster ended up being a glorified and (way) more expensive MT09. Like you said, it looks like every other bike. I own a 2002 Monster 620 i.e. Dark, stock, except for the pipes. By product standards is a flawed bike: the suspension is the shittiest thing, the riding position was studied for midgets, driving in low revs is a nightmare... It only has 60 bhp but God, when you use them on a montain road you forget about that, the bike just puts a smile on your face. And the looks... I've been trying to sell my bike but everytime i look at her i just quit. Just to finish, let me tell a story: Some years back, i was relaxing at a pier, my bike parked along others, when a young couple passed by and the girlfriend pointed at her saying "Now this is the one...".
I've owned a M821 for almost 4 years now, my friends have all MT09s that are faster, and maybe better all around bikes. But after all these years with the same bike, i always turn around to look at it every time i park it as is a real work of art and i love it for that. Both Pagani and Galuccio are argentines, so may be that's the reason behind the excess in same name models coincidence.
The lack of a trellis frame doesn't bother me at all, honestly. It's the decidedly UN-Monster design that ruins the new Monster for me. As an 821 owner, and having just ridden the 937, the new bike is a great ride. The look of the 937 is so far out of line and looks so much like every other bike on the street, there's nothing in the new design that draws the eye to it or makes me want to own one. They should have installed the motor from the V2 Panigale and called it the V2 Streetfighter. And fire the designer for such a lazy design. Where's the Italian passion? Where's the style that makes me want to sit in my garage and stare at it for a while? It doesn't exist with the 937. Other than the design, the 937 is very good. It's light, handles great, and more comfortable than the 821/1200.
I still have a 2002 M600 with only 14000km and full Ducati service history. I recently took her on a 700km road trip in one day. She ticked over like a Swiss watch.
Oh i lovessssssss my 796. Its a classic. Blend of a bit of modern era with oldschool vibes. Enjoy the ride everytime, just like the first time fall in love with it.
nice job. i'm currently riding a M600. yes the turning circle at low speed is hopeless, but on the go it is quite good. down here in AUS, we have a few special models (the so called LAMS models) due to local law restrictions on beginner riders. these are detuned models of a normal lineup like 695 LAMS from 797. LAMS models are capped at 53hps, so the M600 is actually the most powerful unrestricted DUCATI a beginner can ride. to be honest, 53hps for a 180kg dry and 250kg all up bike including a small rider like me is more than enough. i've clocked 0-100km/h in under 6s when i launch it correctly. only the N gear and lack of 6th gear are my complains. 5 gears are ok, but the ratio is a bit awkward in suburban traffic, as 3rd is a bit low and 4th is a bit tall if cruising at 60, same applies to 2/3 at 50 and 4/5 at 80, would be nice to have a 6th and spread the ratio a bit more.
My first poster on my wall was a M696. And I finally was able to buy one. And I absolutely love it. After a decade of riding all types of bikes - the monster is just something else. The new monster without the trellis frame is a mistake.
I saw 2 separate intros to the Monster, one in England and another in NYC, at first I loved the bike. took a test ride on it and was blown away but I never owned one. Over the years while the monster was a hit, I was always lusting for a 916.
I'll never forget in 1994 when I saw my first Ducati Monster, the M600 and I stopped, watched-stunned, hell...listened to the thing and didn't even blink till it were out of sight and earshot. I hated walking from then on. Oh I'm so glad you have released another video, I were informed of your channel from another forum user and immediately was hooked, subbed, binged watch and were left hanging for more. Awesome subject matter this time around too.
Personally owned a Monster S2R1000, S4RS, Monster 1100 EVO, and a 1200S... Very fun bikes, and acted as a gateway drug for me, causing me to pick up many other Ducatis... 999S Parts Unlimited, Streetfighter 1098, Hypermotard 1100, 848 Nicky Hayden Edition, 1198, Panigale 959, etc...
Speaking to the trellis frame, the OG monster stole a frame off another bike. The current 937 shares the same frame design characteristics of the modern Panigale. This to me shows that the monster has always taken some inspiration from the bigger bikes and grown along with the rest of Ducati’s line up.
Loved this ! 2011 Monster 696 owner and would not upgrade to the latest soulless computers on wheels models. Only gripes are short + expensive services , complicated layout for self service but otherwise it is a DUCATI and is just a pleasure to ride - big smile on my face when I get out on the road. I am past rice rockets and Harleys are loud underpowered tractors - the Monster is light, great torque, handles well , no exhausts scraping on the ground, looks good and sounds great - well with Termi’s at least given everything these days must meet Euro7.9 and sound like a dishwasher and not wake sleeping babies at a distance of 2 miles. This guy made me laugh the whole way through - keep it up - and more Ducati !
I like the vid! Great history lesson about the Monster. However, I also want to give you my take on it. I just ordered the new Monster. And while I was also sceptical at first, when I saw the bike, I was just sold. In person it is prettier compared to when it was presented. And indeed I also miss the Trellis frame, but it didn't loose the Monster soul. Superbike frame (=Panigale), Engine (good and well used Testeretta engine), Drop of weight (singifcantly), completely renewed but still refined (you see where I am going). You have to question yourself: Were the latest Monsters worth being called Monsters? They just got extra power (except for the 797), while just adding weight, with just one purpose: selling Monsters for the sake of so called "purity". Right now they did something else, and I like it. Do I like it more than the S4RS, of course totally not, but I like the way they just took a big guess, just like they originally did with the Monster. And indeed, while it also remains marketing, looking a hell lot like an MT-07, I think they did a good job. Especially with all the EU standards nowadays. Heritage and producing things from the past is not always the way forward, and I think this is good. I liked the whole video, right until the and. And that is not because you critiqued the new Monster which I bought. No, I just think it was too short-sighted too reflect all of your Monster knowledge, that you gave in the video, and then finish with a bold flattened opinion, without actually looking at the fact that it is more a Monster now, compared to the most recent previous version (Just because it had a Trellis Frame???). Bold claim. Such a shame. However, keep up the good work!
My .02 for what its worth. In the beginning of the video you highlighted Ducati's underwhelming response to change and innovation, at the end of the video you came full circle. Ducati is not a retro brand, their efforts in Motogp are revolutionary and the new monster is adapting to a changing clientele looking for a bike that is entry level ish, with Ducati styling and one that can keep up with the masses. To stick by the steel for heritage sake would be to repeat the mistakes of their humble beginnings by shunning innovation. All of this resentment about the missing ladder will melt away when you throw a leg over and realize not only is this the stiff Ducati we all love, but a bike made to exquisite Italian detail and thrill. I'm not in love with it visually but I can't wait to try it out and see their new approach has improved my favourite bike.
I still have my first bike, a 2003 Monster 800 S.i.e. I am convinced it is one of the rarest monsters ever, most people don't know the 800 exists! Wish I would have got an S4RS
I have an original M900 in a crate, bought it new and rode it for a few years. Hopped up the motor and the suspension , that was hard on the license and insurance so it was put away. It doesn't have a monster name on it, only M900 on the side covers. Back in the day it was said the ducati test driver called a monster due to it's lower gearing and how that made it a torque monster in the lower gears. I wonder how many 1993 m900s are left out there? Cheers for the vid.
Great video and I couldn't agree more on the current Monster having lost its mojo. I would go so far to say ALL current Ducatis have lost their mojo. The Panigale is nowhere near as good looking as the superbikes of the past, the Streetfighter V4 is almost as ugly as the MT-10 and don't even get me started on the parts-bin yet outrageously expensive marketing product that is the Scrambler. Like almost everyone else that grew up riding in the 1990s, I was IN LOVE with Ducatis. The Monster, the 916, even the 999. Timeless classics. The modern ones are toys for hipsters and people with way too much money and way too little skills. Few points: 1. I'm sure the guy who helped him with the prototype tank knew "a lot about welding", but definitely not because he worked on the Cagiva rally bikes, because those had polyester tanks 2. The M600 Monster, while popular, was total crap. The forks were 1970s technology, the single rotor in front didn't stop the bike very well and the engine was laughably underpowered
great video, i unapologetically love the new monster because it feels modern and a step forward from older designs, and the fact that it brings it closer to best selling bikes like mt07s is a good move imo, also on the comment "they're never the fastest or best" look at them now winning everything in motogp and sbk! i can't wait to finally own a ducati myself, i lusted over the 696 when i was getting my a2 license, the 848 streetfighter also always made me dream, i couldn't believe it when they finally revived the streetfighter brand with the v4 engine, dream bike that one, hopefully i'll get to upgrade from my mt07 to the new monster soon!
The most complete documentary about the Ducati Monster origins! Well done!!! I'm italian and I sought in the far 1993 one of the first Monsters on the road in my city... beh... what to say? My 1996 carburateurs large valves Monster is still in my garage! :)
Fantastic history lesson on the Monster. I would like to think Ducati knows what its doing by removing the trellis frame, lets face it they did it to the Streetfighter (or has everyone forgotten) and pound for pound that turned out to be one of the best bikes currently on the market. I have a feeling over time the new Monster will be a hit. I pick mine up next month. Respect from London 👊🏾🇬🇧.
Great video and very accurate as I'm old enough to have lived through all the Ducati 'drama' since the late '70s. Ducati's direction , under current German management, has removed dry clutches, desmodromic valve trains and now iconic Monster trellis frames. Mamma mia and scheisse !!
Bro, great combination of lots of information well organized, and a really entertaining presentation. And your sprinkling in clearly pronounced Italian is like the right seasoning on a signature dish. As a rider returning post retirement I have watched a ton of bike videos in the last several months. All types. Yours deserves an A+. Instant subscription. -Matt’s dad
I'm into Brit bikes having owned a T140V and T160V, amongst many others. I bought a 1996 M900, mikuni carbs, big valves and carbon fibre raised loud pipes. What a bike, I put 10s of 1000's of miles on that bike, I toured Europe on it and many trips to the great roads of Wales. The only fault I had was the clutch slave cylinder packed up as I exited the M5 on the way back from a long trip. Rode it home without a clutch and fitted an Oberon cylinder and that was that. My biggest gripe with the bike was no revcounter or main stand, I f####g hate paddock stand bulls###e. Eventually built a tuned 74 T120V with a tuftrided and balanced crank and sold the Ducati as it wasn't being used, but I have great memories of that bike. Cheers for the interesting video and especially the Bonnie story at the start, right up my street 👍
I've always loved the big Monsters... Still would love to get the last year dry clutch S4R. Yes the late 80s and 90s were alot about sportbikes and fairings, I owned a bunch. For me a silhouette of a 2nd gen GSXR, FZR or ZX7 will always be iconic sportbikes. Though there were naked bikes. Even though you mention Honda wasn't on board, they also had super cool naked bikes like the CB1 and Hawk.
The first design was a stroke of genius. It’s a down hill from then. S2R 800 and the 696 ending with 796 being the last of the good monster design. Everything after might as well come out of Japan - great on the road but terrible to look at. I still think the original and 696 are the best two looking monsters. Probably most fun on the road too for the average rider.
Yep, you're damn right. My last bike was a Monster 696, it had a pig if a clutch but I still miss it. I ride a BMW K1300S now and bullet proof, whereas the 696 was a temperamental pain in the neck that really only wanted to be ridden on weekends but it was a passion. NO TRELLIS FRAME?!!!!!!!
I own an S4C.(Competition) It’s 1 of 40 race prepared by Ducati for a race series in Europe. 2 of the 40 were not raced and I bought one of them new from Ducati UK. It’s done just over 80,000k around New Zealand now and I will keep it till I can’t ride anymore.
The original Monster took the trail frame from the "Panigale of the the '90s", the 888. So it seems pretty logic to me for the new Monster to inherit the 2021 Panigale's aluminium front frame.
@@UrgetoRide sure they're not the very same piece, but I'm talking about the concept that's behind. The idea was "ok, let's undress our top notch bike and put a more usable engine on it", and there was the Monster. Every gen speaks the same language of its time Ducati's best machine, but every gen had also its "meh" versions. The 900, the original, took the engine from the supersport, and the trail from the 851/888, but there was the 600cc version with wet clutch... Then came the mighy S4/S4R based on the 916/996, but also the 400cc, a pretty tamed "monster". And what about the 5th gen? The 1200/S/R based on the first Panigale were beasts, but the 797? Still trail frame, but that seat position felt like an office chair, definitely not Monster-like. Now, Panigale has evolved (for somebody it's not even a "real Ducati" because of the V4) and the Monster must do the same, on Panigale's same road.
Amazing video! Agree with you and tons of other people who didn't like the new Monster without the trellis frame!!! That's why after my first Monster 600 '95 I decided to buy a Monster 1200S, that I consider the ultimate badass Monster!
Great video. Lots of good info presented in an interesting way. I have a 1996 m900 owned it since new and love it cant see getting rid of it. It IS my italian therapist. Have a good day keep up the great work
N.B!.... This is where the Monster originated from: Hi. Look at the racing frames the Harris brothers welded (I bought one 1982) and you can see the grim look when the fearing was taken off. Up til then mc-frames were designed with a central frame tube (very torsion week design) The Harris brothers instead welded a number of thinner tubes around the engine with a rigid and lightweight result. I built one 1983 around a Honda 900 engine and it was 200 kg instead of 260 kg! I was really tempted to run it without the fearing. It had a badass attitude look that way. That’s where the Monster came from! So now you know 😉
Unless Ducati realizes removing the trellis frame was a mistake, my 1200R is a keeper. Everything with the new Monster, including the horrible graphics, is a “no thank you”. It doesn’t matter how technically advanced the bike itself is.
I like the monster, but it's not exactly the only one like it in that era. Naked standards were offered by several, the Nighthawk 700S as one example starting in 84. The first gens of the monster were plagued with problems and the 600 range bikes were underpowered. Not a bad thing as some entry level riders like and need that, but it was mainly styling that people wanted. The style of the monster was it's biggest asset, it looks like it means business.
Love my Middle-Monsters! I got my feet wet on a 2000 M750, and currently own a 2019 821, and couldn't have been happier with either! I know it goes against the market trends, but I feel the "bridge the gap" Monsters were/are the best choices. My M750 had more power than the M600, without being as heavy as the M900. My 821 has a way better engine and tech than the 797, without being as bourgeois as the 1200. While I don't completely hate the "New Monster," I can't help but agree with you totally on it not being a Monster. It borrows the same frame from the Panigale so in a sense it's using the same formula as the original Monster, but the aesthetic is totally lost and, well, you're right that the aesthetic played a big part in why I even got one to begin with. As much as I hate to compare Ducati to Harley-Davidson, they do share a philosophy in being "heritage brands." This was all covered quite eloquently in the vid: the Desmo valves are obsolescent but still done because of heritage. The trellis frame isn't the best anymore but it was still done for so long because of heritage. The Monster still uses a round headlight to this day because of heritage! So to see them go in a totally new direction with the frame design is a bit strange. Hopefully it works out for them, and maybe they'll attract a new/different buyer. And hey, given the choice between a Yamaha MT07/MT09, a Z900, or a "New Monster" I'd still probably take the "New Monster." But they shouldn't have called it the Monster. Hell, give it the Street Fighter name and categorize it with the V4, make it the SF-V2, something, anything other than Monster, hell, even spin the name, call it the Creature or Titan or something...
Have a 1200 s but have a 937 on order. The 40 Lbs lighter weight made it interesting. The latest restrictions on after market exhausts and ECU flashes are a concern, though. Was supposed to come out in April,. but now I'm hearing May or June.
I don't know if I will ever own a naked ducati. Something about it being naked really bugs me. I'll just enjoy my 748 till the day I can't ride no more. Thanks for the video.
This was a terrific history of the Ducati Monster 👹. Entertaining & informative. Fine job. Thanks. I agree, that steal trellis frame is absolutely essential to the Monster identity. The things that needed reworking are giving this light bike a tight steering lock, which was the only thing holding a nice light bike from being a truly nimble one ....which is its strong point; giving it a gearbox that can easily find neutral; replacing the valve system that doesn't require expensive maintenance. Then there is that too high snotty price. This is a spare parts bike. Where the hell does that exorbitant price come from?!! The initial cost of entry & then the follow high maintenance cost is what has mainly turned consumers off this brand, let's face it.
Great video! I was looking at getting a Monster 696 ABS a few years ago. Fell in love with the classic first-generation styling and ended up with an S2R 800 instead. Hoping one day to move up to an S4RS.
The old Monsters (so many!) were always the ones to make me stop and check out a parked one, but the new one, is not going to bring on the drool if the images in this video are any thing to go by.
Im a ducatista from Australia and grew up in the 80s-90s so grew up with the xs1100's gsx1100s etc but always being a ducati fan currently own a SC1000 and a 96 900ss I love your monster break down as I lived it LOL and totally agree with you they should renamed the new bike and gracefully retired the monster name
I was 18 when the monster was released. I used to work in a bike dealership that had multiple branches and franchises. Having passed my test, and back then it wasn't restricted license. I was insured to ride any of the (shop stock) motorcycles. If I had to run an errand or go to cover at another branch. And if I had to work at another branch I would have the bike for the weekend. At 17 years old being given the keys for gsxr, CBR, fzr/yzf, zxr, and other bikes that people my age had no chance of riding. It was pretty cool. Being that young and being responsible for these bikes, I wouldn't really take the piss, but I did on occasions ride like a 'dick' and my boss would get the occasional call from local constabulary regarding ' shenanigans '. Anyway, we got a monster come into the dealership for stock, I believe it was a demonstrator from from another branch, and because it had miles on it, it was classed as used. So we could have it in the shop, shop being franchised by another manufacturer. So I get asked to go on an errand and needed to take a bike. I chose the monster obviously. So I go to get the key from the boss. "No! YOU are not taking this out! We will get a call telling us you've been locked up for pulling wheelies up the dual carriageway. It's not happening. Take something else" So I wasn't allowed to ride the monster then, I did get a chance later, much later. But what bike did I choose to take to run the errand? A Yamaha TDR250..... And they were worried about me doing wheelies on a monster......
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What's your favourite Monster lads. I'd personally do unspeakable things for an S4RS ❤
I've done a fair few to my M900ie. An RS has a higher top speed & is a little lighter, but it also vaporises fuel so quickly you have to ride from Station to Station. For me air cooled, simple, lightened, modded internally & custom externally, the 900 is the classic Monster.
I have an 02 750Si.e monster. She’s a blast to ride and has a great purr.
Up keep is expensive but you expect it with this Italian pony.
After watching whole video I’m heading out to the garage to look at my bike...it’s pouring out :-(
My 2002 900ie Dark. Clean uncluttered air cooled engine, efi reliability and Miguel's original lines.
Mine is my 2004 m1000Sie, she’s beautiful to me.
1100 Evo?
I can only imagine how much pain and passion went into creating this masterpiece. I meant the video. The Monster is great too.
Very kind of you, thanks for watching Mohit
Not many videos these days that are as interesting to me as yours! The effort you put into these really shows and I hope it pays off soon!
Means a ton, thanks matie
@@UrgetoRide I hope Ducati sees your presentation and your are their new Miguel.
For years I felt alone, ashamed to speak my truth, but then one youtuber showed me the courage to stand up and say it publicly: I love the 999 too!
That makes "2" of you from the looks of it ! LOL ! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When it comes to that bike those words couldn't ring truer ! I had the pleasure of spending a half day on one at Laguna. It rode 10X better than it looked..
@@stevebiron3036 There's a third one, me.
Make that a 4th
Bro you killed it! As an Italian, you couldn't make me laugh more than that!
This is a history lessons for the boys studying Design 👌🏻
Grazie ragazzi, all in good fun 🤜🤛
better than any ducati related documentary. thank you for being the voice of true monster fans at the end. ciao!
You are right about the trellis frame !!! The beauty is gone without the trellis !!!!
Agreed.
Anyone taking bets that it's going to fail spectacularly and Ducati comes crawling back to a trellis frame design?
To be honest, I've not been a fan of the Monster design since they abandoned the original frame. I'm sure the newer models are better bikes, but that original design around the beautiful 851 frame is just about perfect in my eyes.
It’s not just the monster, there’s something... a bit off with Ducati styling the last few years. Most of the bikes have actually got uglier. The supersport is the only one that’s actually ‘pretty’ to me right now, the rest I look at and thing ‘sure it looks premium... but x pervious model was better looking’. With Ducati that matters
🤯 was a returning rider a few years ago. Went looking for a Monster as that was what I wanted when younger and poorer. But it wasn’t the same, didn’t feel right and did not know why... I can’t believe I didn’t pick that up...
You revealed how Ducati messed up the Monster brand. The trellis frame and round headlight were its trademark look.
To me, they messed it up since Monster 696. The riding position was completely different, and surely not a 'Monster riding position.'
@@masterofpuppets1985 Get a scrambler if you want vintage
Ik I had a 2017 821, and think that's the last gen of the real monsters. God what an awesome bike
To me it was an iconic tank shape and the tail as well. If they had kept those it still resembles monster. Check out the 2015 821 - minimal frame but still monster looks. This would be my choice after having two S2R 800 in the past. If not 821, the 696 is the best of a bunch but a bit on a weak side - also very flimsy with all the plastic.
I have a ‘16 821 and i am literally obsessed. So beautiful and fun to ride
LOVED my 2011 Monster 696 to bits. Had a set of Leo Vinci pipes, lowered pegs, and a sprocket change to make it more useable around town. I'd say it's the bike I had the absolute most connection with. Quirky and temperamental for sure, but light and an absolute blast to ride.
Smart of Ducati to not compromise performance by sticking to an old style. Times change, styles need updating. Well done Ducati!
He lives! He has returned to us and blesses us with dank knowledge about bikes once more!
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You nailed it! As a Ducatisti since the 1980's I"ve watched folks often missinform on the true history of Monster . Your score 9/10. The trellis frame change for 2021 IHMO is a mistake, looks like a MT07. Subscribed👍
Mt 07 engine is fun. Its sad to see the monster succumbed
You are blind.
I have a '17 1200S and was excited to see the new design. Without the trellis frame though it looks very standard and the MT07 is spot on. It's not offensive and I'm sure it rides well but it's missing THAT look.
Meanwhile Ducati is currently doing record sales, largely thanks to the new Monster. Clearly this was a great decision for them.
About a week ago, a friend sent me a picture of the new monster and we spent the next hour discussing and reaching the same conlcusions as you. Apparently the youtube algorythm found out and recommended this video. Thanks to the quality and the humour in the video you have a new sub in Argentina. Cheers!
Salud !
Man, your storytelling and video editing are unbelievable. Bravo!!!
I just got a white 2012 monster 796 over the weekend. It is hands down the most beautiful motorcycle I have ever seen. It rides so nice I love it.😭
It's the connoisseurs choice... You get all the bling (SSSA, Tail exhausts) in a relatively modern Ducati engine architecture without breaking the bank
I owned a 2003 M1000 Senna. It was a really nice ride, except for the soft valve guides and resulting lack of compression at 30k miles. By far, the best "monster" is the Honda Hawk GT. It beat the Ducati Monster to market by a few years, had a twin spark engine and single sided swing arm in 1989. Installing a high mount exhaust really showcases the single sided swing arm. It's too bad it was expensive and didn't catch on because it truly was a bike before it's time. How about a breakdown of the sales demise of the Honda Hawk GT? Currently, I'm looking at purchasing a 2000 M900 to add to The Garage of Meaningful Motorcycles
Excellent video, M900ie owner here, such a shame Ducati killed the monster with the latest incarnation... Getting a Scrambler 1100 sport next, as that's more of the monster's natural successor.
Great video, subscribed. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
I am proud M796 owner.. can’t stop looking at her
You nailed it with the latest Monster being a mistake. Going away from the trellis frame is almost like changing their name... Let's just hope that the new model doesn't sell too well and they renew it soon!
I agree. I still like the new monster but I will still probably buy the 821 because it’s the last of the trellis frame.
Unfortunately if the new model doesn’t sell well it’s not really in Ducati or Volkswagen’s vocabulary to admit they fucked up. If it doesn’t sell it’s far more likely they’ll just scrap or replace it rather than go backwards IMhO.
Personally I love monsters and started on an M400, which was basically an M600 for more regulated markets. Here in Australia it was super popular because as learners you had to restrict the power, and Ducati did a bit of malicious compliance in fitting the easiest to remove throttle stop ever... I dont think anyone who bought one ever left it in there lol.
However they lost me years ago with the fugly headlight. Monsters need a round headlight, make it LED for sure, but not some Dali-inspired melted mess round headlight and trellis frame were the crux of the monster.
I personally found it hilarious that when Ducati went for an aero headlight, and then a side exhaust, Suzuki thought, oooh better copy that Suzuki-style! And transformed the sv650 into the gladius lol.
Love my 2015 1200S and was thinking of a new 2021. Then I saw no Trellis!😳🥲😡🤯 I might look for nice 2020 or just grow old gracefully with my 2015!
@@ianashdown how has the reliability been on your monster? I’d like to get one but not confident on reliability since I ride a lot.
I’m not a high mileage rider, but it’s been 100%. It’s never missed a beat . . .
Man, you nailed it. Ducati (and the VW group) killed the Monster. I remember talking to a friend when i heard Ducati had been bought by the germans and saying "These guys are gonna destroy the brand. Trellis frame? Nein, too heavy; Desmodromic distribution? Nein, too expensive." The 2021 Monster ended up being a glorified and (way) more expensive MT09. Like you said, it looks like every other bike.
I own a 2002 Monster 620 i.e. Dark, stock, except for the pipes. By product standards is a flawed bike: the suspension is the shittiest thing, the riding position was studied for midgets, driving in low revs is a nightmare... It only has 60 bhp but God, when you use them on a montain road you forget about that, the bike just puts a smile on your face. And the looks... I've been trying to sell my bike but everytime i look at her i just quit.
Just to finish, let me tell a story: Some years back, i was relaxing at a pier, my bike parked along others, when a young couple passed by and the girlfriend pointed at her saying "Now this is the one...".
I've owned a M821 for almost 4 years now, my friends have all MT09s that are faster, and maybe better all around bikes. But after all these years with the same bike, i always turn around to look at it every time i park it as is a real work of art and i love it for that.
Both Pagani and Galuccio are argentines, so may be that's the reason behind the excess in same name models coincidence.
In italy when we find out that they would end the use of the trellis we felt really hungry, is like put pineapple on pizza 😠
Man, your channel is sooooo good. A perfect rundown of the Monster’s lineage. Well done. Really appreciate the time and effort you put into this.
Maaate, this has got to be one of the best video's I've watched that blends 'good' humour with education. So well edited too! Thank you!
I got the first M900. Dellorto Carburetors. Still have it. I love her.
The lack of a trellis frame doesn't bother me at all, honestly. It's the decidedly UN-Monster design that ruins the new Monster for me. As an 821 owner, and having just ridden the 937, the new bike is a great ride. The look of the 937 is so far out of line and looks so much like every other bike on the street, there's nothing in the new design that draws the eye to it or makes me want to own one. They should have installed the motor from the V2 Panigale and called it the V2 Streetfighter. And fire the designer for such a lazy design. Where's the Italian passion? Where's the style that makes me want to sit in my garage and stare at it for a while? It doesn't exist with the 937.
Other than the design, the 937 is very good. It's light, handles great, and more comfortable than the 821/1200.
I own and love my 2005 M620ie Dark, been a Ducati fan since 1995, and I'm torn with the recent changes.
I don't recall anyone mentioning the term 'Skunk Works' that's younger than 50. I'm genuinely impressed with that, you know your history!!!
No trellis, No monster. It's like star wars with no Jedi.
I still have a 2002 M600 with only 14000km and full Ducati service history. I recently took her on a 700km road trip in one day. She ticked over like a Swiss watch.
Oh i lovessssssss my 796. Its a classic. Blend of a bit of modern era with oldschool vibes. Enjoy the ride everytime, just like the first time fall in love with it.
ill just get 821 and that beautiful frame, they will not take it from me
Brill! I've just bought a M 797. Superb. And yes, the turning radius sucks! I love the way you lampooned that.
nice job. i'm currently riding a M600. yes the turning circle at low speed is hopeless, but on the go it is quite good. down here in AUS, we have a few special models (the so called LAMS models) due to local law restrictions on beginner riders. these are detuned models of a normal lineup like 695 LAMS from 797. LAMS models are capped at 53hps, so the M600 is actually the most powerful unrestricted DUCATI a beginner can ride. to be honest, 53hps for a 180kg dry and 250kg all up bike including a small rider like me is more than enough. i've clocked 0-100km/h in under 6s when i launch it correctly. only the N gear and lack of 6th gear are my complains. 5 gears are ok, but the ratio is a bit awkward in suburban traffic, as 3rd is a bit low and 4th is a bit tall if cruising at 60, same applies to 2/3 at 50 and 4/5 at 80, would be nice to have a 6th and spread the ratio a bit more.
My first poster on my wall was a M696. And I finally was able to buy one. And I absolutely love it. After a decade of riding all types of bikes - the monster is just something else.
The new monster without the trellis frame is a mistake.
I saw 2 separate intros to the Monster, one in England and another in NYC, at first I loved the bike. took a test ride on it and was blown away but I never owned one. Over the years while the monster was a hit, I was always lusting for a 916.
I'll never forget in 1994 when I saw my first Ducati Monster, the M600 and I stopped, watched-stunned, hell...listened to the thing and didn't even blink till it were out of sight and earshot. I hated walking from then on.
Oh I'm so glad you have released another video, I were informed of your channel from another forum user and immediately was hooked, subbed, binged watch and were left hanging for more. Awesome subject matter this time around too.
Happy to hear people are liking the videos enough to spread the word 👌 Thanks for the kind words Ty
Totally brilliant, all I ask is to see an MV Agusta history with as much humour !!
Had a blue Monster 750 and a grey SuperSport 800 Nuda, loved both of them.
Personally owned a Monster S2R1000, S4RS, Monster 1100 EVO, and a 1200S... Very fun bikes, and acted as a gateway drug for me, causing me to pick up many other Ducatis... 999S Parts Unlimited, Streetfighter 1098, Hypermotard 1100, 848 Nicky Hayden Edition, 1198, Panigale 959, etc...
Speaking to the trellis frame, the OG monster stole a frame off another bike. The current 937 shares the same frame design characteristics of the modern Panigale. This to me shows that the monster has always taken some inspiration from the bigger bikes and grown along with the rest of Ducati’s line up.
Loved this ! 2011 Monster 696 owner and would not upgrade to the latest soulless computers on wheels models. Only gripes are short + expensive services , complicated layout for self service but otherwise it is a DUCATI and is just a pleasure to ride - big smile on my face when I get out on the road. I am past rice rockets and Harleys are loud underpowered tractors - the Monster is light, great torque, handles well , no exhausts scraping on the ground, looks good and sounds great - well with Termi’s at least given everything these days must meet Euro7.9 and sound like a dishwasher and not wake sleeping babies at a distance of 2 miles. This guy made me laugh the whole way through - keep it up - and more Ducati !
I like the vid! Great history lesson about the Monster. However, I also want to give you my take on it.
I just ordered the new Monster. And while I was also sceptical at first, when I saw the bike, I was just sold. In person it is prettier compared to when it was presented. And indeed I also miss the Trellis frame, but it didn't loose the Monster soul. Superbike frame (=Panigale), Engine (good and well used Testeretta engine), Drop of weight (singifcantly), completely renewed but still refined (you see where I am going). You have to question yourself: Were the latest Monsters worth being called Monsters? They just got extra power (except for the 797), while just adding weight, with just one purpose: selling Monsters for the sake of so called "purity". Right now they did something else, and I like it. Do I like it more than the S4RS, of course totally not, but I like the way they just took a big guess, just like they originally did with the Monster. And indeed, while it also remains marketing, looking a hell lot like an MT-07, I think they did a good job. Especially with all the EU standards nowadays. Heritage and producing things from the past is not always the way forward, and I think this is good. I liked the whole video, right until the and. And that is not because you critiqued the new Monster which I bought. No, I just think it was too short-sighted too reflect all of your Monster knowledge, that you gave in the video, and then finish with a bold flattened opinion, without actually looking at the fact that it is more a Monster now, compared to the most recent previous version (Just because it had a Trellis Frame???). Bold claim. Such a shame. However, keep up the good work!
My .02 for what its worth. In the beginning of the video you highlighted Ducati's underwhelming response to change and innovation, at the end of the video you came full circle. Ducati is not a retro brand, their efforts in Motogp are revolutionary and the new monster is adapting to a changing clientele looking for a bike that is entry level ish, with Ducati styling and one that can keep up with the masses. To stick by the steel for heritage sake would be to repeat the mistakes of their humble beginnings by shunning innovation. All of this resentment about the missing ladder will melt away when you throw a leg over and realize not only is this the stiff Ducati we all love, but a bike made to exquisite Italian detail and thrill. I'm not in love with it visually but I can't wait to try it out and see their new approach has improved my favourite bike.
I still have my first bike, a 2003 Monster 800 S.i.e. I am convinced it is one of the rarest monsters ever, most people don't know the 800 exists! Wish I would have got an S4RS
The S2R and the S4R are the absolute pinnacle of monster design it has been all downhill from there
I have an original M900 in a crate, bought it new and rode it for a few years. Hopped up the motor and the suspension , that was hard on the license and insurance so it was put away. It doesn't have a monster name on it, only M900 on the side covers. Back in the day it was said the ducati test driver called a monster due to it's lower gearing and how that made it a torque monster in the lower gears. I wonder how many 1993 m900s are left out there? Cheers for the vid.
You could be a history teacher !
Really well done video very entertaining.
Thanks from a 821 owner
I own a 2007 black s2r1000 with 9,000 miles and it’s a keeper for life,I hope.
I didnt belive u only have 6k subs, had to make a second look cuz ur content is good for 600k subs, keep it up bro
Yeah, same reaction. Hated the non-trellis, more than a single disc. By a long way too.
The new monster is awesome, I think its pretty.
Great video and I couldn't agree more on the current Monster having lost its mojo. I would go so far to say ALL current Ducatis have lost their mojo. The Panigale is nowhere near as good looking as the superbikes of the past, the Streetfighter V4 is almost as ugly as the MT-10 and don't even get me started on the parts-bin yet outrageously expensive marketing product that is the Scrambler. Like almost everyone else that grew up riding in the 1990s, I was IN LOVE with Ducatis. The Monster, the 916, even the 999. Timeless classics. The modern ones are toys for hipsters and people with way too much money and way too little skills.
Few points:
1. I'm sure the guy who helped him with the prototype tank knew "a lot about welding", but definitely not because he worked on the Cagiva rally bikes, because those had polyester tanks
2. The M600 Monster, while popular, was total crap. The forks were 1970s technology, the single rotor in front didn't stop the bike very well and the engine was laughably underpowered
S2R 800. My first Ducati. Loved that Monster.
Oh boy this channel is going places 😄
The Monster isn't dead it's sleeping.
I still find the 999 gorgeous, Getting rare and undervalued.
I had a Monster 796 2011 model with the single sided swing its a beautiful bike
great video, i unapologetically love the new monster because it feels modern and a step forward from older designs, and the fact that it brings it closer to best selling bikes like mt07s is a good move imo, also on the comment "they're never the fastest or best" look at them now winning everything in motogp and sbk!
i can't wait to finally own a ducati myself, i lusted over the 696 when i was getting my a2 license, the 848 streetfighter also always made me dream, i couldn't believe it when they finally revived the streetfighter brand with the v4 engine, dream bike that one, hopefully i'll get to upgrade from my mt07 to the new monster soon!
The most complete documentary about the Ducati Monster origins! Well done!!! I'm italian and I sought in the far 1993 one of the first Monsters on the road in my city... beh... what to say? My 1996 carburateurs large valves Monster is still in my garage! :)
Fantastic history lesson on the Monster. I would like to think Ducati knows what its doing by removing the trellis frame, lets face it they did it to the Streetfighter (or has everyone forgotten) and pound for pound that turned out to be one of the best bikes currently on the market. I have a feeling over time the new Monster will be a hit. I pick mine up next month. Respect from London 👊🏾🇬🇧.
I ride a VTR FIRE STORM and wasn't Star Struck on the Half Fairing "LOOK" BUT HEY I love it now, Its Funcutional
Great video and very accurate as I'm old enough to have lived through all the Ducati 'drama' since the late '70s.
Ducati's direction , under current German management, has removed dry clutches, desmodromic valve trains and now iconic Monster trellis frames. Mamma mia and scheisse !!
We need a new Monsterino, 53 hp with 'show us how lightweight you can make it'.
Bro, great combination of lots of information well organized, and a really entertaining presentation.
And your sprinkling in clearly pronounced Italian is like the right seasoning on a signature dish.
As a rider returning post retirement I have watched a ton of bike videos in the last several months. All types. Yours deserves an A+. Instant subscription.
-Matt’s dad
I'm into Brit bikes having owned a T140V and T160V, amongst many others. I bought a 1996 M900, mikuni carbs, big valves and carbon fibre raised loud pipes. What a bike, I put 10s of 1000's of miles on that bike, I toured Europe on it and many trips to the great roads of Wales. The only fault I had was the clutch slave cylinder packed up as I exited the M5 on the way back from a long trip. Rode it home without a clutch and fitted an Oberon cylinder and that was that. My biggest gripe with the bike was no revcounter or main stand, I f####g hate paddock stand bulls###e. Eventually built a tuned 74 T120V with a tuftrided and balanced crank and sold the Ducati as it wasn't being used, but I have great memories of that bike. Cheers for the interesting video and especially the Bonnie story at the start, right up my street 👍
Thanks for the throwback !
Excellent video 👍 a must watch for Ducati fans and bikers who appreciate history ..keep it coming.. looking forward to more videos from this channel.
Had the most beautifully evolved M1200S which burnt my inner thighs but always beckoned me for a ride
I've always loved the big Monsters... Still would love to get the last year dry clutch S4R.
Yes the late 80s and 90s were alot about sportbikes and fairings, I owned a bunch. For me a silhouette of a 2nd gen GSXR, FZR or ZX7 will always be iconic sportbikes. Though there were naked bikes. Even though you mention Honda wasn't on board, they also had super cool naked bikes like the CB1 and Hawk.
The Buell S2T was an exposed trellis when the Monster came out in 93’, it wasn’t just the Bandit, as the 90’s went on, the S1.
The first design was a stroke of genius. It’s a down hill from then. S2R 800 and the 696 ending with 796 being the last of the good monster design. Everything after might as well come out of Japan - great on the road but terrible to look at. I still think the original and 696 are the best two looking monsters. Probably most fun on the road too for the average rider.
Thank god your still alive! And again, nice work bro!! The world needs people like you. Especially in these times.
Peace✌🏼
Pleasure is all mine, thank you for sticking around and the kind words, means the world 🤜🤛
Yep, you're damn right. My last bike was a Monster 696, it had a pig if a clutch but I still miss it. I ride a BMW K1300S now and bullet proof, whereas the 696 was a temperamental pain in the neck that really only wanted to be ridden on weekends but it was a passion. NO TRELLIS FRAME?!!!!!!!
Loved the video! I have a 95 M900 that hasn’t been able to run consistently in 4 years but I love the pain she brings me🤣
I own an S4C.(Competition) It’s 1 of 40 race prepared by Ducati for a race series in Europe. 2 of the 40 were not raced and I bought one of them new from Ducati UK. It’s done just over 80,000k around New Zealand now and I will keep it till I can’t ride anymore.
You are one lucky SOB, enjoy it mate !
Galuzzi also designed the monsteresque Cagiva Raptor.
Own an S4R & V-Raptor 1000
(had a M900, M800 and M620)
The original Monster took the trail frame from the "Panigale of the the '90s", the 888. So it seems pretty logic to me for the new Monster to inherit the 2021 Panigale's aluminium front frame.
I very much doubt they're the same.. but yes I see your point
@@UrgetoRide sure they're not the very same piece, but I'm talking about the concept that's behind. The idea was "ok, let's undress our top notch bike and put a more usable engine on it", and there was the Monster. Every gen speaks the same language of its time Ducati's best machine, but every gen had also its "meh" versions. The 900, the original, took the engine from the supersport, and the trail from the 851/888, but there was the 600cc version with wet clutch... Then came the mighy S4/S4R based on the 916/996, but also the 400cc, a pretty tamed "monster". And what about the 5th gen? The 1200/S/R based on the first Panigale were beasts, but the 797? Still trail frame, but that seat position felt like an office chair, definitely not Monster-like. Now, Panigale has evolved (for somebody it's not even a "real Ducati" because of the V4) and the Monster must do the same, on Panigale's same road.
My fav Monster is my '01 SV650. I like Italian shoes ok.
The 999 is gorgeous , especially as in race trim without the headlights.
Amazing video! Agree with you and tons of other people who didn't like the new Monster without the trellis frame!!! That's why after my first Monster 600 '95 I decided to buy a Monster 1200S, that I consider the ultimate badass Monster!
Great video. Lots of good info presented in an interesting way. I have a 1996 m900 owned it since new and love it cant see getting rid of it. It IS my italian therapist. Have a good day keep up the great work
This is the best documentary TH-cam channel in the motorcycle sphere, beside FortNine channel. Awesome work
N.B!.... This is where the Monster originated from:
Hi.
Look at the racing frames the Harris brothers welded (I bought one 1982) and you can see the grim look when the fearing was taken off.
Up til then mc-frames were designed with a central frame tube (very torsion week design) The Harris brothers instead welded a number of thinner tubes around the engine with a rigid and lightweight result. I built one 1983 around a Honda 900 engine and it was 200 kg instead of 260 kg! I was really tempted to run it without the fearing. It had a badass attitude look that way. That’s where the Monster came from! So now you know 😉
Unless Ducati realizes removing the trellis frame was a mistake, my 1200R is a keeper. Everything with the new Monster, including the horrible graphics, is a “no thank you”. It doesn’t matter how technically advanced the bike itself is.
Exactly!
You forgot the Rare Monster 400.
I like the monster, but it's not exactly the only one like it in that era. Naked standards were offered by several, the Nighthawk 700S as one example starting in 84. The first gens of the monster were plagued with problems and the 600 range bikes were underpowered. Not a bad thing as some entry level riders like and need that, but it was mainly styling that people wanted. The style of the monster was it's biggest asset, it looks like it means business.
Love my Middle-Monsters! I got my feet wet on a 2000 M750, and currently own a 2019 821, and couldn't have been happier with either! I know it goes against the market trends, but I feel the "bridge the gap" Monsters were/are the best choices. My M750 had more power than the M600, without being as heavy as the M900. My 821 has a way better engine and tech than the 797, without being as bourgeois as the 1200.
While I don't completely hate the "New Monster," I can't help but agree with you totally on it not being a Monster. It borrows the same frame from the Panigale so in a sense it's using the same formula as the original Monster, but the aesthetic is totally lost and, well, you're right that the aesthetic played a big part in why I even got one to begin with. As much as I hate to compare Ducati to Harley-Davidson, they do share a philosophy in being "heritage brands." This was all covered quite eloquently in the vid: the Desmo valves are obsolescent but still done because of heritage. The trellis frame isn't the best anymore but it was still done for so long because of heritage. The Monster still uses a round headlight to this day because of heritage! So to see them go in a totally new direction with the frame design is a bit strange.
Hopefully it works out for them, and maybe they'll attract a new/different buyer.
And hey, given the choice between a Yamaha MT07/MT09, a Z900, or a "New Monster" I'd still probably take the "New Monster." But they shouldn't have called it the Monster. Hell, give it the Street Fighter name and categorize it with the V4, make it the SF-V2, something, anything other than Monster, hell, even spin the name, call it the Creature or Titan or something...
Have a 1200 s but have a 937 on order.
The 40 Lbs lighter weight made it interesting.
The latest restrictions on after market exhausts and ECU flashes are a concern, though.
Was supposed to come out in April,. but now I'm hearing May or June.
I don't know if I will ever own a naked ducati.
Something about it being naked really bugs me. I'll just enjoy my 748 till the day I can't ride no more. Thanks for the video.
This was a terrific history of the Ducati Monster 👹. Entertaining & informative. Fine job.
Thanks.
I agree, that steal trellis frame is absolutely essential to the Monster identity. The things that needed reworking are giving this light bike a tight steering lock, which was the only thing holding a nice light bike from being a truly nimble one ....which is its strong point; giving it a gearbox that can easily find neutral; replacing the valve system that doesn't require expensive maintenance.
Then there is that too high snotty price. This is a spare parts bike. Where the hell does that exorbitant price come from?!! The initial cost of entry & then the follow high maintenance cost is what has mainly turned consumers off this brand, let's face it.
S4rs isn't only the best monster ever, is the best Ducati ever...
The 950 Monster is gorgeous , so much so I've ordered one , something I've never been tempted to do by the old Monsters.
Tastes and all that ;) Congrats on the new bike hope you enjoy it
My first bike was a M900 in 1995. Still love that model so much!
Great video! I was looking at getting a Monster 696 ABS a few years ago. Fell in love with the classic first-generation styling and ended up with an S2R 800 instead. Hoping one day to move up to an S4RS.
Awesome as always! :) Learning while having a laugh, what could be better? And those italian jokes - massive :) Thanks!
The French ate it in the last video, I felt bad doing them but not do their neighbors 😂 All in good fun of course, thanks Rafal for sticking around
That BMW K1 is actually pretty stunning imo
Your documentary style videos are the most entertaining motorcycle content on TH-cam and the production value is fantastic
That new one looks like the Suzuki gladius.
The old Monsters (so many!) were always the ones to make me stop and check out a parked one, but the new one, is not going to bring on the drool if the images in this video are any thing to go by.
Im a ducatista from Australia and grew up in the 80s-90s so grew up with the xs1100's gsx1100s etc but always being a ducati fan currently own a SC1000 and a 96 900ss I love your monster break down as I lived it LOL and totally agree with you they should renamed the new bike and gracefully retired the monster name
I was 18 when the monster was released. I used to work in a bike dealership that had multiple branches and franchises. Having passed my test, and back then it wasn't restricted license. I was insured to ride any of the (shop stock) motorcycles. If I had to run an errand or go to cover at another branch. And if I had to work at another branch I would have the bike for the weekend. At 17 years old being given the keys for gsxr, CBR, fzr/yzf, zxr, and other bikes that people my age had no chance of riding. It was pretty cool. Being that young and being responsible for these bikes, I wouldn't really take the piss, but I did on occasions ride like a 'dick' and my boss would get the occasional call from local constabulary regarding ' shenanigans '.
Anyway, we got a monster come into the dealership for stock, I believe it was a demonstrator from from another branch, and because it had miles on it, it was classed as used. So we could have it in the shop, shop being franchised by another manufacturer. So I get asked to go on an errand and needed to take a bike. I chose the monster obviously. So I go to get the key from the boss. "No! YOU are not taking this out! We will get a call telling us you've been locked up for pulling wheelies up the dual carriageway. It's not happening. Take something else"
So I wasn't allowed to ride the monster then, I did get a chance later, much later. But what bike did I choose to take to run the errand? A Yamaha TDR250.....
And they were worried about me doing wheelies on a monster......
Hahaha thanks for the share