Immersion Cooling an S19 J Pro Bitcoin Miner With Overclock to 130TH!!!
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- Dielectric Coolant Immersion Cooling for crypto mining with an ASIC Bitcoin Miner!
This is my second attempt at a DIY immersion cooling rig for my S19J Pros. This time Im testing an OVERCLOCK beta from ASIC.to
Everything is running stable and 10-20C cooler than on air cooled down here in Florida!
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Bro, you just keep doing it man. Hitting Ws and Ls but you're in the game and that's the best part. Respect brother. Fun to watch this candid journey.
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Your unbridled honesty is part of your charm :)
Thanks, Kyle!! I figure I can show my mistakes so hopefully some others can bypass them!
Happy to see that our cooling fan simulators helped with your set up! Keep the videos coming - we're really enjoying them!
Heyyyy! My fan spoofer provider!! Hope you’ve seen a tiny blip of traffic from the videos:)
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Absolutely, we appreciate all of your support! :)
cant wait to give this a try ! awesome content as always !
Fantastic video and great setup! Looking forward to seeing updates in the future, thanks for sharing Nicholas!
I love watching this Chanel. It’s such a down to earth mining enthusiast and it’s just cool how he talks about it
It's been a lot of fun to watch the progression in the discord 🔥🚀
Thanks! Yeah, I was in there distracting myself throughout the whole shoot!
Duuude i love you and your videos so much. I also started to make some ideas with watercooling and didn‘t know where to start. But thanks to you, the messy stuff is allready done ! You are my hero 😃💪🏻
As a small time residential GPU miner who is already strapped for space an ASIC is just out of the question but its been a lot of fun watching the progression and seeing something like this go down, reminds me of the content i initially subbed to LTT for
@@abnersilverio less space but it imposes SO MUCH more with sound and heat
@@abnersilverio I'm seriously considering immersion cooling my GPU's. It makes a lot of sense from the noise, space and maintenance viewpoint. I fail to see a downside other than the up front cost, but if your in it for the long term it makes perfect sense. The DCX guys claim 75 GPU's will fit in one of their modular tanks. As long as you have the power then expansion in a limited space is possible.
The biggest game changer here is that purpose built tank. Wish I could get a hold of something like that, which the plate at the bottom.
One of the best youTube channels about mining I've seen! Keep it up!
Thanks! Im having a great time making all of these, im not stopping any time soon!
LOVE THAT!!! This DCX enclosure & 40kW dry cooler looks different now, but thanks for mentioning!
Whoops! Just scraped a google image!! There are I think three guys in my discord server who have ordered your 40kw system and Ill be visiting one of them to talk about it once its installed!
Another awesome video. Can't wait to get my KD5s into my DCX system.
Definitely gives me more confidence in building my first tank. I was very new and simply built a box to fit everything in with a 12" exhaust. It works well but didn't reduce the sound as much as I hoped. I have been bouncing the idea around and seeing the past two videos, I'm pretty confident I can do it now. Probably will have 2 tanks, 1 for my 5GPUs and 1 for my 2 BTC miners.
What are your Asics? How much is your KWH?
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I'm basically doing the same thing up here in Canada, got a couple of S19j pro and an L3+ I'm finding it way too loud here in my work (aluminum race trailer) space. the s19 screaming for days on end are making me hear them in my sleep! lol anyways I'm keen to get some immersion going so your videos are a huge help. many thank from up here in Vancouver BC keep up the great work. love your honesty and failures much to be learned and understood from failures so thank you
Thanks mitchel! If you join the discord you can share your design ideas with the group, there are actually a few engineers in there!
Ball valves yes on both sides of the pump, but also Unions on both sides of the pump for easy removal and maintanence... essentially ball valve > union > pump < union < ball valve. ensures that minimal liquid is lost during maintance needs.
Is there a CPVC union that I can detach and reattach without gluing in place???
I first came across your channel with your first immersion video and I was like….”this guy 🥴” . … now I’m like… “ this guy👌🏼😎”. It’s awesome to see people who show their mistakes and tribulations. Subscribed and am excited to see your next rendition. Also good job on upping the content quality (sound, lighting editing).
Thanks! Yeah I’m going to need an assistant before TOO long. Keeping the video quality up while also focusing on these fairly oily, dirty builds is a challenge!!
The next iteration should be pretty solid! Then we can work on heating my pool with the oil temps using a plate exchanger
Nice design and great job adding in a bypass loop for the final iteration. You may want to look into enclosing the entire inner/ outer box portion as open-loop systems (such as cooling towers for commercial buildings, etc.) are notoriously subject to impurity build-up and can, over time, cause corrosion to your equipment. I think it may be simple enough to add a sealed lid to the outer box and thus creating a seudo-closed-loop system. Also have you considered designing this without a basin (outer box) and just pipe the heated water out directly from the bottom of the tank? You would need to install an expansion tank on the suction line as well as an air-separtor but I think this would be a bit more professional and you can basically just lookup a closed loop chilled water system schematic to get an idea of how to lay this out.
Awesome video! I love your channel, thank you for sharing your experiences.
Also forgot to mention that having the free flowing water fall design may cause a lot of entrained air bubbles in the coolant (this is common in water but I don't know the properties of the coolant you're using), this may corrode/ pit and damage the pump as the bubbles basically implode when they reach the pump impeller where pressure dramatically rises. On that note, also be caution of designing with enough suction line pressure (look up NPSHa) or you can cause cavitation of the pump. Hope this helps!
You are correct the water fall should crest micro bubbles and can boil water I'm the impeller... that being said I think bitcool he's using is close to mineral oil I'm viscosity. Slowing down the bubble rate if there are any. The manufacturers tanks are actually built that. But if the fall is long before hitting the lower fluid that could happen! It's a good thing to look for!!
Literally bursted out laughing when you said "possible I don't understand that data point, but...."
My 90TH comes in tomorrow!!! Sorry I've been quiet in the Discord - busy week. But for those who haven't joined it yet GO! Fun group
No need to be sorry! Its all archived for ever and ever - feel free to go back and rehash something you didnt see live... And yeah, I still dont understand how BTUs work with respect to radiators.. I know air temperature matters, I know speed of fluid through there matters.. I know I DONT know the speed of my fluid through there...
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Start calculating RPM’s and volume between impeller arms 😂
Thank you so much for these videos I am trying to do the exact same thing and I’m finding this very helpful
Hopefully there are some mistakes I can make so that you dont have to!
Always install barrel unions on parts that you'll commonly need to remove or infrequently replace. Ie. Both sides of pump.
Will save a lot of pipe and fittings and makes future replacements/modifications a breeze.
How do you keep the dielectric fluid clean if in open air? Maybe consider putting in a small Y strainer before the pump.
Also how is the copper to PVC plumbed? I haven't done any before - resin or glue?
Otherwise very interesting :)
The copper to pvc is a pre manufactured piece I got from supplyhouse.com.
I may make a cover for the whole thing once it’s going to keep things out of the open tanks. Or an in-line filter, yeah.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Oh? I thought you're using pvc glue or resin at 0:33 to put it in. Be careful if it's just pvc glue, it won't make a chemical bond.
Keep it up. Interesting project.
I'm building a single s19 pro immersion tank just like this one you made, except its made from scrap 16 ga steel, bent and welded. Your pointers certainly help me out!
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It is success now?I can offer you some davice
Haaaa, yeah man! Replied to another of your awesome videos but didn't mentioned the name of my supplier in Poland :-) DCX, this guys are coool!
Where did you get the container that your using or how did you make it and what material did you use/
Great vid, really enjoying the journey you are on.
You mentioned that the pump should be lower than the tank, but in the final design it looks higher?
For drainage and to help prime the pump you might want to flip the pipe coming out of the hot tank so its under the tank not on top of it.
Funny you mention it, we’re actually talking about that in the discord this morning
Nice mkII design. Watch out for bubbling and air entrainment when the hot liquid falls out of the first box and into the second box. Try keeping a laminar flow rate, and angle the sides of the upper box slightly so the liquid "slides" into the lower box, rather than "falling" into it. Lastly, if possible the bottom of the upper box should be insulated from the liquid of the bottom box. If not, the heat in the lower box will naturally transfer to bottom of the upper box.
All good points! I’m not TOO worried about heat transfer since it’s a constant pump of new liquid, it’ll be in contact with the tank wall for like 0.05 seconds
terrific video! I look forward to seeing your next filming journey with this setup. also, I do not suppose you would be willing to share where you found that 3d printable riser? I poked around on the internet and did not find one, any suggestions?
Man you did very good job thanks for the info, and hard work but at the same time I know you’re having a blast 👏
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Pause - you love in Florida, so this is more than applicable. You need to seal your system fluids to avoid evaporation though more importantly, condensation. Many of the immersion designs can achieve high flow which masks the issue of condensation by continuously mixing moisture into the fluids, but, if you have a dead spot, an eddy current, you might start to see pearls of water bubbles at the lowest point. Obviously, water conducts electricity and shorts out electronics. Seal the system, consider a ball valve drain at the lowest point.
That’s a great point to consider for the mkiii design!! Thanks! Iterations….
What is the tank made of? Brilliant video.
Only issue I can see is you need to have allowed the correct height in Box 1(inner) & 2(outer) for the thermal expansion of the dielectric fluid because you will need the level in Box 1 to be at least as full as the level of your pump suction pipework otherwise you will airlock and lose the prime of the pump(centrifugal pumps are not self-priming). If you are cycling this miner, then you'll either need to have a taller Box 1 or shorter suction pipework so you don't have to constantly monitor the fluid level in Box 1. Personally I would also be concerned of aerating the fluid as it waterfalls from Box 1 into box 2, maybe just allow for a taller Box 2(maybe matching or close to the height of Box 1) with holes drilled into the top of Box 1 to allow a smoother transition of flow between boxes. You will just need a larger volume of dielectric fluid.
This was so freaking cool dude
Subscribed: Really dig your content and overall risk tolerant attitude. I have a quick question in your immersion cooling rig how much vibration does the entire unit create, I was thinking of putting it above an office in an attic space and didn't know if the vibration would transfer and become a nuisance to the office below? Thanks
It really doesn’t vibrate much at all! If the pump is on like the middle of a hollow cabinet or something it will buzz, but if you have something solid under it or screw it down it’s extremely quiet
Lovely! I'm particularly interested that you've decided to build your own system. That would be a much-awaited TH-cam series! Watching closely. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent content as usual.
that is cool as hell.
i realize this is an older video, but...
some thoughts. on the tank you curently have, i belive i would want the seperation wall betweent he hot and cold sides to be a deadcell, even double or tripple pane, as (you may already have realized) the design of the outflow take exposes your cool side to heat. now the flow of the system makes so that dosent mater so much. still seems inefficient.
as for your new tak design, seems like you accounted for A LOT of things that you learned from this experience. though my very first though would be what orientation this pair of mining units are going to be in, as if they are laying down, then i would want the outflow to be inline with their outports instead of 360 degrees. though if they are standing up then it wont mater.
all in all this seems like a really cool project, and the concept will work well for what im planning.
Happy that you got it working a lot better! If we were closer, geological wise i would more than love to help you building a bigger system for all the miners. Great content as always, a big like on the videos!
Appreciate the great content and the items listed, really gives me the confidence watching your trials and errors so keep it up :). Do you happen to have a source for the actual tank?
Seconded.
When you use immersion cooling you have also lower power consumption on basic settings? Is is possible to save few % of power consumption?
My asic will consume 3154w I want to use immersion cooling, and I want downgrade power consumption to 3000w, is it possible?
definitely gonna be following you on your IC journey!
someone probably already explained two things in the design at the end of the presentation
one - there is no positive pressure for the pump in this design, put it all on legs and put a port near the bottom of the outer tank that drops to the pump
two and I see this in many designs, don't let the miner tank share a wall with the "hotter liquid" or recovery tank. it will just help to heat up the cooler liquid and of course the coolest' liquid is at the bottom of the inner tank, in your later design. push the bottom of the outer tank up so the level stays high and that may allow for the aforementioned, higher than the pump port
Damnit man u did it again...good job...we must combine powers make a giant wet system...i also have a building with plenty of power and space an are ordering s19s soon from musk and may drive to pick them up also just depends...
Thats amazing! What state are you in?
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSENC...close to the Appalachian mountains and college...
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE finding a good business partner in crypto or in my area in general is extremely hard..
Thank you for the video 👍 I can't wait for the next video.
Man, didn't you invert the position of the pumps into the radiator? Hot liquid shouldn't enter in the top pump and the cold leaves in the bottom one?
"Spoofers" are just resistors.
They put a load on the 12v or 5v line the fans use, thus the miner thinks the fans are running.
A bit of solder and 50 cents in resistors would do this job.
you should have taken all your hints from hydronic heating system design and put in isolator flanges, they bolt up to that pump and make it much less messy to replace a pump WHEN [not if] it fails. Also, rubber is quite fragile in a chemical sense, throw away the rubber seals and replace with PTFE. Avoid threaded connections whenever possible, soldered, glued and crimped connections will basically last forever without leaking. Also, add a sediment filter to protect the whole system, but specifically protect the pump and rad from any foreign schmoo that could clog it and reduce performance.
That was so funny that over sized pump drained it
It looks like you didn't mount the control board to the handle provided by EF. Instead you placed it in between the rails where the PSU was attracted originally. Can you share why you did it this way?
Hey, awesome videos, I love watching the progression/trial & error! Outta curiosity how loud is that *recommended* pump compared to the wrong red centrifugal one you bought at first?
The red one was literally silent, but wrong rubber unfortunately. The March mdx one is still really quiet. I don’t know how to express exactly how quiet but you could have a whisper conversation while putting your ear right next to it.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Cool, thanks! I was just wondering if it was like a great deal noticeably louder than the red silent one or something.
comment for algorithm, you need more subs, great vid
You’re the man Nick!! 👍
Nice work. How loud is that March MDX pump you talked about at the end of your video? Does it work as well or better than that red one?
It works just as well. It’s a tiny bit louder but will last forever. And by louder it’s still very very wuiet
Dude you fabricated a great design. We are just starting out with mining and have five smaller T1s immersed in Bitcool. We made the mistake of using an underpowered radiator and so are in the process of a redesign. This video is very helpful. Thumbs up, subscribed.
Have you thought about just replacing the heatsinks on the hash boards with a forced liquid heat exchanger (maybe just water through an aluminium block) and quick connects. Use a standard radiator and pump. Not weird dielectrics and a big bath. Basically like a car cooling system.
Buen trabajo, solo te recomiendo que uses tuercas unión en la bomba, en la entrada y la salida del tanque, estoy con el fin de cualquier mantenimiento o reparación no tengas la necesidad de cortar tubos.
Amazing work!
Where can I purchase a tank like this?
I would like to try to replicate your results looks amazing
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Another fantastic video. I'll give it a couple more weeks of you sorting stuff out before I launch in 😉.
Yep, everything for the 'final form' should be arriving in a couple weeks
You are a pioneer! Great work!
Great video! Thank you. Are you able to describe how the flow plate is designed? I’m trying to optimize my current immersion setup. Much appreciated!
It’s designed so that it’s really close to the exact size of the tank, then there are slits in the plate where the intake to the miner is so turbulent flow makes it way up and through the miner.
Can you please give a detail like what kind of pump n radiator you’re using?
This is pretty cool. I have two KD6’s on pre order. Could I use that for both of mine? How good is this for noise and cooling?
Hello friend, about the thermal paste, could you tell me how long it lasts immersed in the fluid? or how often do I need to change?
Very nice dude. Keep going. Very interesting content.
Thats awesome 🔥🔥
Excellent video. Could you confirm what type of liquid or oil you used for the application?
Bitcool Dielectric coolant
use more ball valves, before and after pump and for bleeding air
Great video. Keep up the good work.
I’m in FL too! Any idea when engineered fluids is coming out with their residential kit that you mentioned in a previous video? Currently running 4 sj pros air cooled but am trying to integrate immersion cooling soon. Thanks for all the content!
Oh neat, where in Florida? They were trying to get it worked out by the end of 2021, so they must be pretty close now that they missed that deadline.. In his last email he said a couple weeks, but that was a few days ago..
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Hello. Sweet set up. I am curious about the 130 terahash rate. Do you obtain 130th with the immersion system AND the asic.to overclocking firmaware? If so, What kind of terahash rate do you get with simply immersing the miner without overclocking it?
If you immersion cool it without an overclock it will mine a little faster than normal because of the cool temperatures - but an overclock is necessary to drive it to a speed you choose.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Thanks for the reply! When immersion cooling it without an overclock, does the kw rate of the miner drop? Since the fans aren't being used.
@@shanewitsman5056 Yes BUT - you have to run a pump and a radiator fan in order to do it... With a single machine youre not sdaving any power, but those fans add up and if you immersion cool like 4 or more of them, youll be saving energy to do so
Do you have a link to the tank? I've looked on engineering fluids site but apparently my google foo is weak.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't EF put out a video about flipping the power supply for reasons you mentioned? I know I saw something about that somewhere, if not EF.
Yep they did - and my first immersion video I talked about it and did it! But its super hard to maneuver the miner if youre by yourself and if you want to unplug anything its on the bottom... They have a kit to move the wiring to the top - not sure how much theyre charging for it
You should add some inline filters into your new system.
I don't understand the 200k BTU either, but I was hoping to see better temps :( 200k BTU in a calculator is like 50+ kw of heat (again I have no idea how the thermal thing works) - that S19 is using how many watts? 4000w/4kw?
Well NOT overclocked its only using 3000w (3Kw) , but I have since learned that nothing transfers heat as well as water - so when a radiator says it can do 200k BTU thats with water, and with bitcool its actually more like 40kw! Sooooooo you have to way oversize if youre going straight to a radiator.. A way to combat this is using a 2 phase system, with bitcool to plate heat exchanger, plate heat exchanger to water and to a radiator, and then you can squeeze out more heat with the same radiator.
Sir! Keep it up awesome video wow... Just wow.
What type of fan are you using to cool the radiator? What cfm, rpm, and watts is it? If you could give me a link for that it would be much appreciated. Thanks have a great day!
That is this fan, amzn.to/3yJr2DZ 7800 CFM but have it set on low, so probably half that? under 100 watts.
You need a failsafe relay to trip off... so when your mag pump fails and they do... you don't boil your 12k miner.
If these things don't have a thermal shutdown trigger, they're shit anyway.
Anything this expensive would and should have this.
Sir the 200k btu is heating but for cooling these are around 50k btu, I am actually doing the same thing and we were able to cool 6 s19 machines with one 30x30 radiator just like yours
Oh! That’s very interesting about the different rating! I guess it was listed as a heater; I didn’t figure it would have a different capacity depending on the direction of heat.
One more recommendation put two valves one of each sides of the pump. If the pump needs to get replaced you have basically zero lost liquid.
Yeah thats definitely going into the next revision.. Its funny the things you dont think about before you actually do it
Bitcool recomends 3cm of liquid on top of the miner BTW
Check out the pumps dcx use….look similar to red pump in video and just as quiet. I’m not quite sure what model they use.
I’m not sure they would say either. Industry secrets! But I know a couple guys who ordered from them. Maybe we can find a part number
Serious investment but fair play looks cool
Very entertaining
Use a 2 stage system and there is no need for the cooling part with 3M fluid!
@Robert McPherson the 3M fluid evaporates and takes the heat to the top of tank then turns back into fluid again
@Robert McPherson yes do some research on it
sir if ever i have a hydraulic hose here. can i use it as my pipe? instead of finding a proper pipe for dielectric coolant?
Most likely, but you’ll want to know what the hose is made out of and check the compatibility list on engineered fluids website.
Though, in speaking with them, MOST hydraulic hoses fit the spec
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE thank you so much sir. more power to your channel and crypto. it's a great honor to get the answer from you directly. instead from those scammer that pretending to be you.
@@carlotheatheistii546 oh man, they are all over the place now!
how did you install the fan spoofs? Thanks...
Can you try it with a Goldshell KD5? :)
Nice, whats the tank material please ??? Acrylic ?
Yes, that’s acrylic
Would you please throw the link for that piece fitting you used to solider on the radiator?
Here you go! www.supplyhouse.com/Sioux-Chief-685-C4-1-CPVC-x-Male-CTS-MetalHead-Press-Fit-Adapter-LF
Fun stuff!
Can you add a link to the radiator used?
For sure! Here’s that radiator. I’ll add it to the description too. amzn.to/33Ik6cT
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Much appreciated. Love the vids. We made a similar design about a year ago and has worked great. Thank you!
Do you happen to have an idea how much actual fluid volume the s19j pro displaces? Any info would help. Thanks!!
I wish I had calculated that but I don’t know. Total guess I would say about a gallon. There is a lot of open space inside the machine.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Thank you...
Looking forward to mk3. What’s the deal with prepping the asic for immersion cooling? I’ve seen all sorts of conflicting info. Anything from: doing very little, to: remove heatsinks, thermal paste, bathe and clean hash boards etc. I want to make my own system and only this info is stopping me from making a start.
The minimum you need to do is remove the fans and get some fan spoofers. That’s literally the only step I took for this one. It’s been running for about a week now problem free! And I’m in Florida where it’s still hitting 80 in the daytime.
All the parts for mk3 are in transit! Looking forward to putting that thing together
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE thanks! One thing I read was that thermal paste can both hinder the effectiveness of the fluid (it should be in direct contact with the chips) and that it can degrade and contaminate the fluid. Perhaps these articles were for older types of cooling fluid. So none of this is a concern or being considered for the next build?
@@BiscuitTheFirst I actually went to engineredfluids.com HQ and had a long conversation with their guys, and no one mentioned that.. I know with GPUs it’s important to swap out the thermal paste with thermal epoxy instead. But for some reason I haven’t heard that for ASICS.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE thanks for responding so well. Appreciated. They were who I would’ve emailed next so that’s sorted that one! Good luck with the expansion and I’ll be watching!
where is the link to the compatibility between components and liquids?
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it's cool, it's just about saving electricity now, and here's an additional fan, not good
Awesome :)
Have you or you going to try one of those sound proof boxes for ASIC?
No I haven’t. Once you get them under the oil they don’t make a peep!
I don’t like the idea of restricting airflow
Where can i get a tank like this is can't find it anywhere
Lol, I just bought that same exact Wise Water pump on amazon rn. I hope it works out!
What fluid are you using?
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE 10 gallons of Bitcool
Great job!