Probably not. Dion will fabricate headlines through his words and actions regardless of the on-field success. He has his own damn social media production team that follows him around. His biggest asset is his presence, and he knows it.
@@nicholaspowell7931 it will be better than last year. I’m not a Colorado fan but they will be an interesting team to watch and can’t get worse than last year. 5 wins would be a success
They lost in the last seconds at Utah in the first game and were up early and controlling the game the next time around before Calen's injury. They did have a close win on the road against Oregon State, who went 10-3. What's the same in that? Agree about the tougher schedule, but this team appears quite a bit stronger, especially on defense.
At Oregon and ND will be those tests this year. All other significant games are at home this year but the schedule is tougher for sure. I also think the team is a lot better this year but many people don’t it seems.
@@alkers372 lol this team is not stronger on defense until they prove they can tackle under Grinch. Bringing in a couple transfers doesn't solve the problem. It's the same old issues that plagued OU defenses while he was there, so it's very unlikely that gets fixed all of a sudden.
I watch a lot of CFB podcasts...and this takes the cake for the worst takes with no basis lol. Although I will say it keeps it entertaining and I will be watching more!
christ im so happy that im not the only one who sees this and honestly for 2 decades now theyve been consistently overrated. them trying to say they shared the natty with LSU that year in the 2000s is absurdly hilarious and i promise you LSU would have throttled that team even with ole party pete wasnt paying recruits. that one kid mentioning USC and Georgia is out of his mind and now because he said that shit that theyre "like Georgia " physically wasnt just insane but its gonna motive Georgia to slam them even harder than last year. "usc is focused on georgia" they need to focus on not losing to UCLA and Oregon and Oregon St and staying out of the basement its last year in the pac 12. thats embarrassing as hell. then i heard some analyst on espn say "i feel if anyone is going to win the NC this year not named Alabama or Georgia itll be USC LMAO BLASPHEMY first of all alabama is in a steep decline and LSU will be the only team to challenge Georgia and USC cant compete with Clemson OR Ohio State OR Michigan and i honestly think theyd lose to Florida state AND probably the 4th best SEC team which is likely Oklahoma and Bama would end that game by halftime. these people are wild and should be fired ffs.
USC’s defense can easily get worse. They had almost 30 turnovers and was still the 95th total defense. Normal turnovers, and a slightly better defense means they can actually be ranked worse in 2023.
Two of the "hosts" on this show saying Deion Sanders is going to win coach of the year in the Pac-12 after the team wins 3 games at MAX. Figure it out...
The Bo Nix heisman ad is bad ass. There’s a new Twitter post from 30blocks away and all you see is BO and it’s amazing. Also, Bo and Caleb had worse, and than the same odds on the same day as Bo nix on Nov 5th last year, before nix got hurt. He wins 12 straight if he doesn’t get hurt..and wins the heisman
Utah is a good team but they benefited from the PAC 12 being down for the past decade. The other teams are coming back so Utah will go back to being just a solid team.
@@jamesvalentine3648would agree but he has no positional discipline. Too many times he got beat during his time at Oregon. Wish the best for the kid but he needs some more film time
@@ninefingerjack Colorado not Oregon. Showed flashes at Cotton Bowl err Jerry World Bowl. Do I think he's like Neighbors or Harrison or AD Mitchell, Xavier Worthy ? He's not even best WR in city with the guys UCLA has. But I think he pops.
@@ninefingerjack oh fuck my bad. Yeah I question Flowe. All the skills in the world but gotta wonder of all the places he went to Arizona? Less talent around to cover him up now too
Disagree about the school sponsored Heisman campaign. It's the Pac12, they need to promote their Heisman candidates who are not 1:1 talent like Caleb Williams or Marcus Mariota. If you are not at that elite talent level where your name is being discussed because of the NFL Draft, you need to promote yourself to get your name out there for East Coast Viewers. Christian McCaffrey should have won the Heisman in 2015, but not enough East Coast voters stayed up to watch his games. I still don't think Bo Nix is going to be in Heisman contention, but if he was going to play well enough to make the Heisman conversation, he needs people to know his name and watch his games.
You guys should consider Traveling to Georgia and doing 1 show from inside the "College Football Hall of Fame" in Atlanta and doing a 2nd show from UGA in Athens...
Espn owns it I think and it really sucks. I don't care if you don't like nascar but go to their museum and that is how you are supposed to do a museum.
@@musingsofawokehebrew3356 lost 5 games by 1 score or less under a new head coach and first year, not to mention having to rebuild from a snake who gutted the entire program. We’ll be fine and you won’t do sh*t with Grinch on D 😂
Guys remember who our coach was 2 years ago remember how horrible we were for a 10-year. Of time we've had Lincoln Riley and all you quote-unquote football experts are making it seem like Lincoln Riley has been there 10 years it takes more than one year to establish the recruiting back we are almost there what's going to happen when were top 5 every year you all will say you all will say they're buying their players we all know USC does not give nil2 freshman coming in must establish yourself to get the big money and yes we have the big money
You know what Katie's probably the most knowledgeable person on this staff. You guys sound like a bunch front. People at a bar sometimes but nothing exchange and Colorado they haven't even played a game yet perception may have changed hope may have changed but nothin's change. Until they actually change it.
They have no clue about SC’s defense. Major injuries, super thin, injured 3 star athletes playing out of position down the stretch. Now have entirely new D, and great depth, and defensive consultants to correct Grinch. Stop regurgitating drive by media mantra. Do some research.
While I definitely agree the PAC12 fans could have done more and the collapse of the conference was directly attributed to inept management, you’re comparing Austin TX, Athens GA to SoCal with 2 NFL, 2 MLB, 2 CFB, 2 NBA, 2 NHL teams? Not to mention theme parks, beaches, zillions of clubs etc. 🤔 Lots of ways to spend $s,🍎s &🍊s bro.
Why do people smoke USC crack? They won one PAC12 Championship in the last 15 years. They should have lost 3 to 4 more games last year. Their record does not match their level of play. I give them 20% chance to win PAC12.
I think Oregon is going to be the team that steps up their defense considerably this year. Not USC or Washington.. Oregon State might also surprise some people.... Maybe not though....I think Washington is overrated. They did over perform lay year for their overall roster talent. The conference could easily cannibalized themselves again.
Any team that wins the Pac12 shouldn't make any playoff discussions. If the conference is so bad that they all need to leave and become middle of the road in a better conference. Then none of them deserve any consideration. Especially if they aren't undefeated.
Agreed! USC has no defense team! To be great? You need a strong defense 💪 Lincoln Riley has never had a great defensive team. Look at his pass history! 😭
this turned into a hate listen for me. Epitomizes barstool. The old guy calling one of the women a "stupid bitch" and then the young guy on his phone the whole time. Trash AF and 10/10 wouldn't recommend
The PAC 12 doesn’t deserve a playoff team unless its champion goes undefeated. If the conference champion goes undefeated in conference but loses its non-conference game(s) that team does not deserve a playoff spot. USC needs to win at Notre Dame, Utah needs to beat Florida and Baylor, etc. The PAC 12 is not worthy of respect on the same level as the SEC, Big 10, or even the Big 12.
It’s clear that these four have done ZERO research on WHO USC picked up for their new front 7 and new and now healthy DBs
Exactly ✌️
USC couldn't even beat Texas A&M😂😂
@@Mako-hq6zc😂😂😂
Lol
Kayce WOAT
The only place that will talking about Colorado after week 3 is this podcast
Probably not. Dion will fabricate headlines through his words and actions regardless of the on-field success.
He has his own damn social media production team that follows him around. His biggest asset is his presence, and he knows it.
Disagree
Not even close. Hopefully they at least improve this year. But the comment is totally delusional.
oh they will be talked about how big of a dumpster fire they will be.
@@nicholaspowell7931 it will be better than last year. I’m not a Colorado fan but they will be an interesting team to watch and can’t get worse than last year. 5 wins would be a success
Don't blame the fans - you see WSU College Gameday? Its the presidents of the schools and Larry Scott
USC had two tough opponents last year lost to Utah twice and barely got by oregon state. They don't get the schedule break this season.
They still should start 6-0 pretty easily. No real tests early
Lincoln was in year 1, say what u want ab him at oklahoma but give the dude a break in year 1
They lost in the last seconds at Utah in the first game and were up early and controlling the game the next time around before Calen's injury. They did have a close win on the road against Oregon State, who went 10-3. What's the same in that? Agree about the tougher schedule, but this team appears quite a bit stronger, especially on defense.
At Oregon and ND will be those tests this year. All other significant games are at home this year but the schedule is tougher for sure. I also think the team is a lot better this year but many people don’t it seems.
@@alkers372 lol this team is not stronger on defense until they prove they can tackle under Grinch. Bringing in a couple transfers doesn't solve the problem. It's the same old issues that plagued OU defenses while he was there, so it's very unlikely that gets fixed all of a sudden.
This will not age well 😂😂
I watch a lot of CFB podcasts...and this takes the cake for the worst takes with no basis lol. Although I will say it keeps it entertaining and I will be watching more!
Great show Unnecessary Roughness
christ im so happy that im not the only one who sees this and honestly for 2 decades now theyve been consistently overrated. them trying to say they shared the natty with LSU that year in the 2000s is absurdly hilarious and i promise you LSU would have throttled that team even with ole party pete wasnt paying recruits.
that one kid mentioning USC and Georgia is out of his mind and now because he said that shit that theyre "like Georgia " physically wasnt just insane but its gonna motive Georgia to slam them even harder than last year.
"usc is focused on georgia"
they need to focus on not losing to UCLA and Oregon and Oregon St and staying out of the basement its last year in the pac 12.
thats embarrassing as hell.
then i heard some analyst on espn say "i feel if anyone is going to win the NC this year not named Alabama or Georgia itll be USC LMAO
BLASPHEMY
first of all alabama is in a steep decline and LSU will be the only team to challenge Georgia and USC cant compete with Clemson OR Ohio State OR Michigan and i honestly think theyd lose to Florida state AND probably the 4th best SEC team which is likely Oklahoma and Bama would end that game by halftime.
these people are wild and should be fired ffs.
Y'all gave Northwest Arkansas a nice shoutout today, thank you!
Brandon doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about re: PAC 12 demise. It had absolutely nothing to do with the fans.
We have family rules on "qualified visit" to count for a state: Your feet have to touch the ground outside of an airport, train depot, or port.
Show absolutely stinks fellas
USC’s defense can easily get worse. They had almost 30 turnovers and was still the 95th total defense. Normal turnovers, and a slightly better defense means they can actually be ranked worse in 2023.
Two of the "hosts" on this show saying Deion Sanders is going to win coach of the year in the Pac-12 after the team wins 3 games at MAX. Figure it out...
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Always enjoy your show! Great job, everyone!
Is this Jack mag or Katie “stats” burner
The Bo Nix heisman ad is bad ass. There’s a new Twitter post from 30blocks away and all you see is BO and it’s amazing. Also, Bo and Caleb had worse, and than the same odds on the same day as Bo nix on Nov 5th last year, before nix got hurt. He wins 12 straight if he doesn’t get hurt..and wins the heisman
Would Utah be a slept-on team? I know it’s questionable since Cam Rising is questionable but they did win the PAC-12 two years in a row.
Utah is a good team but they benefited from the PAC 12 being down for the past decade. The other teams are coming back so Utah will go back to being just a solid team.
I wish someone loved me the way Kayce loves Lincoln Riley and Deion
Why is jack mac attacking Vanderbilt?
Sec bias is so bad
Brenden Rice gonna leap onto the scene this year
Kid is a freak per Bruce Feldman. Also Justin Flowe at Arizona is sneaky.
@@jamesvalentine3648would agree but he has no positional discipline.
Too many times he got beat during his time at Oregon. Wish the best for the kid but he needs some more film time
@@ninefingerjack Colorado not Oregon. Showed flashes at Cotton Bowl err Jerry World Bowl. Do I think he's like Neighbors or Harrison or AD Mitchell, Xavier Worthy ? He's not even best WR in city with the guys UCLA has. But I think he pops.
@@jamesvalentine3648 Justin flowe was at Oregon.
That was the response.
@@ninefingerjack oh fuck my bad. Yeah I question Flowe. All the skills in the world but gotta wonder of all the places he went to Arizona? Less talent around to cover him up now too
How much time did they waste with states discussion
Kayce gargling and swallowing Lincoln and deon at the same time
Huskies ...Usc. is soft
As a Utah PAC12 fan, there’s not a whole lot I can do, just saying.
Deion is gonna be awful
To be fair, I think Sanders will do a good job as coach but he won't be playing.
Utah fans fill Rice Eccles stadium EVERY game!
I love that we have been sold out for like over a decade and it is never mentioned.
i too have a lot of SEC takes, fascinating year and a lot of new QBs
Dion has never beat anybody as a coach with a pulse
does she not know.....eddie george won the heisman twice....
The Utah disrespect is WILD
What if you had somebody who was enjoyable and/or intelligent rather than Jack Mac?
Did he hurt your feelings in some way? Saying that with Kayce or even Katie on this podcast is wild lol
@@mikeoxlong7390Ironic.
2013 Lamar Heisman winner -Lamar lmao. Kayce was on one this ep
Disagree about the school sponsored Heisman campaign. It's the Pac12, they need to promote their Heisman candidates who are not 1:1 talent like Caleb Williams or Marcus Mariota. If you are not at that elite talent level where your name is being discussed because of the NFL Draft, you need to promote yourself to get your name out there for East Coast Viewers. Christian McCaffrey should have won the Heisman in 2015, but not enough East Coast voters stayed up to watch his games. I still don't think Bo Nix is going to be in Heisman contention, but if he was going to play well enough to make the Heisman conversation, he needs people to know his name and watch his games.
Greatest set of cans on the podcast and you can't even move the camera back a little bit Brandon? Sad
You guys should consider Traveling to Georgia and doing 1 show from inside the "College Football Hall of Fame" in Atlanta and doing a 2nd show from UGA in Athens...
They're too lazy for that
They can't because of sports gambling not legal
@@braydenmiller130 not anymore it wouldn't matter since August 8th and regardless Barstool has done a ton of content in non gambling states
Too lazy and not big enough personalities. Imagine “stats” in Athens georgia 😂😂😂😂
Espn owns it I think and it really sucks. I don't care if you don't like nascar but go to their museum and that is how you are supposed to do a museum.
I still don’t know what Brandon did to high noon
"Non tough league" - this guy is emblematic of why Pac12 fans were lukewarm.
I love this show but good god can Jack stop staring at his phone the entire time?
That’s his full time job
Top left and bottom right are right
As a Sooner alumn, LOVE seeing Grinch with Riley lol! "2 loss" Riley will never disappoint!
Bet you would give anything for a 2 loss sooner season....
@@musingsofawokehebrew3356 lost 5 games by 1 score or less under a new head coach and first year, not to mention having to rebuild from a snake who gutted the entire program. We’ll be fine and you won’t do sh*t with Grinch on D 😂
@@Calisnr what if you are wrong... and he can't coach....
@@musingsofawokehebrew3356 have you seen the defenses he’s built at Clemson? Have you seen the offense Lebby has created at Ole Miss? Sit tight
@@Calisnr you mean Dabo sweeney .... clemson
Guys remember who our coach was 2 years ago remember how horrible we were for a 10-year. Of time we've had Lincoln Riley and all you quote-unquote football experts are making it seem like Lincoln Riley has been there 10 years it takes more than one year to establish the recruiting back we are almost there what's going to happen when were top 5 every year you all will say you all will say they're buying their players we all know USC does not give nil2 freshman coming in must establish yourself to get the big money and yes we have the big money
You know what Katie's probably the most knowledgeable person on this staff. You guys sound like a bunch front. People at a bar sometimes but nothing exchange and Colorado they haven't even played a game yet perception may have changed hope may have changed but nothin's change. Until they actually change it.
When the top end of the sec plays @ vandy they’ll outnumber Vandy fans 2 or 3-1, so nbd if there’s less stands, they’re never full anyways
They have no clue about SC’s defense. Major injuries, super thin, injured 3 star athletes playing out of position down the stretch. Now have entirely new D, and great depth, and defensive consultants to correct Grinch. Stop regurgitating drive by media mantra. Do some research.
another example USC gets the most hate when they are relevant
Who says that SUC is relevant?????? Did they do something???? No!!! Yeah I didn't think so!!! Riley never does anything.
@@ericbassham751But they have tons of recruits and transfers that rank beneath Oregon every year
@@zehsackett6132they finished above them last year though🤔. And Lincoln brought in the number one transfer class when he arrived
@@Kronk3 And Oregon isn't a top 8 team either
@@zehsackett6132 on that I agree. USC is top 8 however. In the 6-8 range imo
ouchita mtns and ozarks are pretty delta area in Arkansas not so much
While I definitely agree the PAC12 fans could have done more and the collapse of the conference was directly attributed to inept management, you’re comparing Austin TX, Athens GA to SoCal with 2 NFL, 2 MLB, 2 CFB, 2 NBA, 2 NHL teams? Not to mention theme parks, beaches, zillions of clubs etc. 🤔 Lots of ways to spend $s,🍎s &🍊s bro.
Pac 12 is the “Miami football” of conferences
Why do people smoke USC crack? They won one PAC12 Championship in the last 15 years. They should have lost 3 to 4 more games last year. Their record does not match their level of play. I give them 20% chance to win PAC12.
I think Oregon is going to be the team that steps up their defense considerably this year. Not USC or Washington.. Oregon State might also surprise some people.... Maybe not though....I think Washington is overrated. They did over perform lay year for their overall roster talent. The conference could easily cannibalized themselves again.
Washington is overrated???? Lol
Jacks the kinda east coast that when he hears something about the PNW his mind thinks of Narnia. Go Dawgs woof
You guys are bias as hell, but that's alright.... You have every right to be....
So magic dion sanders son is gonna play quarterback where is he ranked in the top five thousand in the country a quarterback train it.
Any team that wins the Pac12 shouldn't make any playoff discussions. If the conference is so bad that they all need to leave and become middle of the road in a better conference. Then none of them deserve any consideration. Especially if they aren't undefeated.
Theyre leaving bc of the money, you dont know what youre talking about
If you're a good conference you get more money.
@@adenlycosky why does the B10 make more money than the SEC then?
@@adenlycoskypac was 3rd best conference last year
😂😂😂
Holy Canal water cannot believe the mouth on that young lady don't understand why she feels she has to cuss every other word
Agreed! USC has no defense team! To be great? You need a strong defense 💪 Lincoln Riley has never had a great defensive team. Look at his pass history! 😭
You are dead to me
USC gets blown out by Washington
I could see them losing that one in a shoot out
Never
@@marknethercutt3381😂
Usc will disappoint you by winning .... sorry not sorry
What was that😂
Seats in the stadiums matters. That is the reason the PAC is dead.
Check the numbers, UW sold out every geme
Arizona is going to get pushed hard by UTEP. Might even lose that game. UTEP is not a bad team.
Yeah idk about lol.
@@grantcreach1315 dig into UTEP
Yo what was that again? UTEP just lost to Jacksonville state 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
No Colorado will be. USC will be 1#
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Looking amazing kayce❤be water my friend❤
this turned into a hate listen for me. Epitomizes barstool. The old guy calling one of the women a "stupid bitch" and then the young guy on his phone the whole time. Trash AF and 10/10 wouldn't recommend
I listened for 10 minutes and was bored. Out.
Kayce knows 10 times more than Brandon
This didn’t age well…
The PAC 12 doesn’t deserve a playoff team unless its champion goes undefeated. If the conference champion goes undefeated in conference but loses its non-conference game(s) that team does not deserve a playoff spot. USC needs to win at Notre Dame, Utah needs to beat Florida and Baylor, etc. The PAC 12 is not worthy of respect on the same level as the SEC, Big 10, or even the Big 12.
Didn’t say anything about Washington
@@yukslime8468 The PAC 12 champion went undefeated and received a spot in the playoffs. So I was right.
USC will win the Pac
Definitely not, Utah still winning it again.
@@Chris_EE😂😂😂
Lil brother
Not ranked
@@Chris_EEnot ranked
One day Jack Mac won’t be on this show anymore and on that day may we all rejoice
The billboard is for marketing and recruiting not as much for swaying the old talking heads. Think about it