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Dear Becket I would like to add a short comment about Jordan Peterson. I have heard his daughter speak about her mother as a devout catholic who, in her upbringing. frequently talked a lot about the catholic faith. I have also understood from others, that Jordan's wife is a catholic Christian. However, he himself speaks of his wife as a person who consciously seeks out friends who are deeply committed to their faith, but he does not speak of her as a believer. However, she would appear to be deeply seeking. That is as much as I can offer to the Conversation. Thank you Becket. God bless you. My name - Steve
I have been following Jordan Peterson since 2016 and he was instrumental to my coming to faith in Christ. I was a hardcore atheist and definitely of a similar opinion to Sam Harris that no rational person could possibly believe in God or Jesus. But I held these opinions from a state of almost complete ignorance of the Bible. What I was familiar with was Jung and Freud and Nietzsche, etc. I listened to every moment of Peterson's biblical series (and more) and he really opened my mind to the real question that I refused to look at, namely: "if not God, then what?" (Edit: and "what makes me think I'm so much smarter than believers" as well) However, I have not listened to him since I came to faith because, although he has a brilliant mind and asks great questions, he's missing the Gospel. I have prayed for him to soften his heart to the gospel many times both for his sake but also for the sake of the Kingdom. Can you imagine his intellect fighting for the good news?? It would be an amazing sight, I believe. Loved this conversation.
@@jazznoteblue5393 goodness this makes me laugh, but i think you need to listen to more jordan peterson if you think hes gonna associate with any denomination , and I mean no offense, but especially baptists haha. Just based on his lectures...take care
Five years ago I was an atheist. A friend of mine introduced me to Bill Moyer’ interviews of Joseph Campbell in “The Power of Myth.” I was fascinated. Joe Rogan introduced me to Dr. Peterson and I was obsessed. Then my sister was born-again. She started praying for me and throwing CS Lewis books at me. I was born-again about a year ago. Once I was born-again I stopped listening to Dr. Peterson. Now I listen to The Bible, Mike Winger, Beckett Cook, Alisa Childers, Dr. Leighton Flowers, etc… When I was an atheist, Peterson’s secular analysis of the Bible was rich and compelling. As a believer, Peterson’s secular analysis of the Bible is stale, flat, and not true. This flip in my perspective taught me humility. The problem with the Bible is the Observer Effect. The reader finds what they want to find. Atheists read the Bible to prove it wrong. Surprise…they prove it wrong. Secularists read it to find an efficient way to engineer human beings and societies. They find some parts they wrench out of context and put together a Rube Goldberg Machine. One Bible Scholar said to understand the Bible the reader must read it with Love. I’m finally realizing I must read the Bible with Love, because the Christain God is Love. In doing so, I am learning the point of the Bible…to know God, my creator and to follow his plan. For the Christain, life on Earth is preparation for eternal life in God’s Kingdom. We prepare by denying ourselves, taking up our cross, and following the light of the world, Jesus Christ. Todd Rundgren , the Atheist/Agnostic was right. Thank you, God. Thanks, sis.
Amen, great comment! I couldn't agree more! And honestly, it's testimonies like yours that demonstrate the best possible outcome of interacting with the ideas of crypto-christian guys like Peterson; that they act as an introduction to the power of the Bible, and as a gateway into at least considering the concept of god. It's sad that we have to leave Jordan behind as we go past conceptions of god and forward into *relationship* with *The* *Living* *God* , but let's pray that Jordan finally leap across the metaphysical chasm he has helped so many secular/materialist people reconsider for themselves.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian I would say that Peterson is painfully aware of the hopeless ineptitude of human words to refer to God. He says that God is not real in the same way we're real, and he's right. He hasn't figured out yet that the reality of God both encompasses and transcends our reality and any other.
Thank you for exploring the topic of Jordan Peterson’s ideas of God, religion and faith. Like I said the other day, he’s soooo close! Praying he turns his head knowledge into heart knowing Faith. I pray he can see past his own intellectualism and caricature of the god he’s made in his own image. God is working in Him, let us continue to pray for him. On our knees!
Loved this episode. JP is brilliant and understands the big picture of what is happening in the world today, but not on a spiritual level. He may be close though..keep praying for him!❤️
I think God is using him in a big way, without him completely understanding it. JP was a stepping stone for me, a way to transition form an anti-christian, anti-rules, hurt, broken, sick, chaotic mess into a deeper thinking, christian. Eventually Jesus took off and I stopped being attracted to JP all that much, stopped watching. But I could never deny how important his lectures, insights, dedication to his work and his audience and just pure compassion for the world, had a huge, huge impact on me and served me a ton at the starting point in my journey to the Truth. it's been years and I still feel like I'm in the very beginning of the journey, but when I look back... a lot has been done, so gently and patiently. Thank you, Yeshua.
Being so smart and “educated” can be a real stumbling block to child-like faith. Being too wise for ones own well-being. Praying with all earnestness for the born-again salvations of the Peterson family. They seem like lovely people.
@Lordpraisethe He does use the spirit. What do you mean? Is it because he does not succumb to dogma (Christian dogma, in this case) that he is not using the spirit. He is entirely guided by his spirit.
I had to stop listening to Jordan Peterson - it was like being led through a dark labyrinth of confusion- he’s not born again- that’s what’s missing and he doesn’t have the peace that surpasses understanding - Jordan just needs to actually read the word - thank you Becket I enjoyed listening to this commentary
The dark part of Jordan Peterson is it leads to people listening to Kanye, Kyrie, Andrew Tate and many others who seem right but because they don't have Jesus it leads to death
I agree. I Recently, watch an interview with Jordan Peterson, Douglas Murray and Jonathan Praeau discussing, Science v.s. Religion a rather painful interview to watch. It's seemed they, both Jordan and Douglas were tried to intellectualize faith in Christ Jesus. However, they both came up, short. I pray both Jordan and Douglas continue to seek the truth and that, others will continue to plant Seeds of faith.
@@dataseeker1 Exactly. I tend to agree. Jordan Has spoken; with clarity on many topics. However, on the substance Faith and Religion. He makes it to complicated.
Hey Beckett! So blessed by your TH-cam ministry! I've heard from his daughter Michela that she has found Jesus and his wife has also found Jesus. I believe God is surrounding him with Godly people, including you!
Same thoughts here. Been listening to both of them for years. I'm 1/4 the way thru this talk and stopped to read the comments yours stood out. Wondering how Bethel can come to a foregone conclusion after going to a 2018 lecture --- Seriously? He was just coming off of Benzo addiction withdrawal (given the script by a Dr due to the stress of his wife's cancer and in rehab with suicidal ideation due to a horrific, painful process. It was then that he began a big "transformation" or better yet started to gain far more biblical perspectives. It's almost 2023 and he has grown substantially and probable doesn't want to openly declare his Faith b/c of the tremendous attention it would create. He's a sensitive man and he went thru alot of stress over the pronoun issue. As Christians we need to show compassion for him. It is obvious he is He's remaining in low profile--- I hope Beckett has him on his show!
Sharing one’s journey on social media is soul destroying ,(from what I I’ve experienced to date.) wait until you get there ,when you are satisfied with the out me. These intellectual snobs ,love to analyze you to bits. WHY NOT ASK DR.PETERSON THE QUESTION NOW.- Bet he’ll give a different/ better answer.🎶🎶I CAN SEE CLEARLY. NOW---🎵
I love Jordan Petersen's authentic humanity. He does not profess to be a theologian he is a psychologist. I seldom care what people "think" about other people. I think it is absurd to take him out of context and to assess him according to our christian view. It would be SO MUCH BETTER to have him on here for a first hand dialogue. That would be brilliant!
We are to look at everything through the word of God, study to show yourself approved. No one of discounting his love for humanity and the people hes helped or taking anything out of context.
I don't disagree with the imperative of discerning God's will and His voice in our lives as believers, to rightly divide the scriptures and apply His truth to our life. I am not sure why you are drawing the conclusion that I am saying that the podcast is trying to discount Jordans love for humanity. As I've already said above, I would love to see a direct conversation between Beckett and Petersen.
@@heatherblack1684 You said it's absurd to take him out of context and assess him according to our Christian view. Are we not to look at everything and everyone with and through the word of God?
I did and how does the Scripture say we are to view and interact with the world and non Christians? To your point, the assessment is a simple one, he has not professed faith, so according to the scripture he is someone who God loves, he is sinner in need of a savior. Just like you and just like me and every other human on the planet. Can unsaved people be moral, sure! Other than that He is not a Christian, who is deeply loved by God; a secular psychologist.
@@Sylver_Echo2923 yeah, but to put it out all over the world....its like you're judging where hes at and people will keep Jordan frozen in this mocking assessment.
I'm a Christian and I enjoy Jordan's lectures and interviews. Whether or not he's as a Christian or not is not my business but if he's not he soon will be. He's very intelligent and I enjoy him very much
I don't think viewing and using the bible as a mere collection of psychological archetypes is at all respectful of christianity... he is a billion miles away from being a Christian.
@ Pacifist Identitarian CONGRATS ON your public display of your love and commitment to our Lord & Savior 🤗🙏❤️ Continue to readHis Word for growth, clarity & discernment
You meeting Jordan Peterson in public sounds to me like a God-made event. I really think that God brought you two together to meet, and I will pray that Jordan accepts your offer to come on the show. That would be great every party involved.
I somehow found this channel. I'm now binge watching. I ordered your book - A change of Affection. It arrived yesterday. Very uplifting book. I love how you deliver your message. I can truly relate.
I would like to have a friend like you, Becket. Just walking on the same road since I reconciled with God two months ago. Your testmonies are helping me a lot. Pray for me!!
I'll pray for you. God takes our realities (anything that is not perfect which entails ALL of us) and makes these things into something beautiful that has a great impact on others. Blessings...
Loved this conversation. To me, I find it great that Dr. Peterson doesn't answer that he is a Christian if he isn't. I believe from what I've seen is that he is currently "counting the cost". I thought it was quite horrible when at the end of his convocation at Liberty University that they were trying hard to have him declare himself a Christian before he was ready to do so. As Christians we are in a hurry to get people saved and to our discredit many fall away because they have neglected to consider being all in. If God's time is not linear we do not need to rush people. We need to remember at all times that God wants him to be saved even more than we do~
This episode opened up a door of discussion with my grown sons visiting on Thanksgiving day. They turned away from God during college and God is slowly drawing them back. They used to listen to Jordan Peterson, and read his book. I agree that he's on the doorstep. I also agree with Becket that God does have to reveal himself or we are not really saved! Thank you Becket for this discussion. I will start praying for Jordan Peterson, which I had commited to even before the completion of this episode.
Unfortunately, our universities are infiltrated with teaching that is the very opposite of God. Pray for your boys that their mind, body and souls will be protected by God.
This is the very question I've been thinking about the last month. Thank you for additional insight and confirmation for things that I had sensed. I definitely love Jordan Peterson, and will pray for him. Would love to see him in heaven.
Im pretty sure God would be happy to have him surrending to the faith completely but I'm also pretty sure he helped so much atheists to look at the word of God...sometimes much more than religious preachers and he saved so many young adults to get their life on the right tracks, avoiding suicide acts, honoring their parents, accepting to go towards engagements and true love in mariage ...I'm proud God gave us this loving soul, having everything he has to understand people and trying to lead them in the good direction. Just wanted to say that God looks at our heart and there is a good chance we will see him in the good part of heaven if we go there too ;)
Maybe he's counting the cost of following Christ - loss of worldly status, friends, maybe family, giving up sin, being mocked and compared to the loons on "Christian" TV, etc. It took me a long time to abandon all to follow Him.
I don't know if you've ever heard Derek Prince, Becket, but he received a Ph.D. from Kings College at Cambridge and became a Christian. He has that philosopher background and is quite an articulate and profound teacher.
This is why I speak to them in parables: ‘Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.’ Matt. 13:13 Perhaps some people suppose they need to hear an audible voice to believe, but they circulate in such intellectual circles, I doubt if many would believe, even if they heard a voice. They might chalk it up to a dream or some psychedelic flashback. I am only familiar with Jordan P., and not the other gentlemen you mentioned, and I have seen him literally in tears when speaking about the love and mercy of Jesus; he is so close. Close is good, but close only works if you finally reach a destination. Personally, I had to recognize my own sinfulness, and I asked God, "If you are real, please reveal Yourself to me," and He certainly did that for me. Not being raised a Christian, I had never read more than a few verses from the bible, but by the time I had read the New Testament, there was no doubt in my mind that Jesus Christ is Lord. Not only was there love, mercy and forgiveness, but the wisdom I found absolutely floored me, and the realization that there was a literal hell scared me to death. Jordan is almost there, and I pray that he takes that final step and enter into the Kingdom of God. Great show Becket!
G'day, Marcus Vaughn! Justin Peters has said something like this: "If you want to hear God, read the Bible. If you want to hear God audibly, read the Bible out loud."
@@lindacowles756 yes, this is so true! I love Brother Peters' ministry and I subscribe to his channel and get his daily readings. I love the quote you gave from him, thank you! God bless
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! 🦃🍁🍂 Becket, It's amazing you ran into Jordan Peterson at a BH restaurant! Wish you guys could have had a longer conversation, even if it was after his lecture. I have listened to a few JP lectures and interviews. He isn't a Christian yet, but he is not far away from being born again. He has Christian convictions and respects Christian thought. I respect the man and how he tries to help and guide the youths of today.
Thanks for sharing this Becket! Being so smart and “educated” seems like it can be a real stumbling block to child-like faith in our Savior, Jesus/Yeshua. Being too wise for ones own well-being. It’s a two edged sword. Praying with all earnestness for the born-again salvations of the Peterson family. They seem like lovely people. Your truthfulness and way about you is so needed and appreciated!!!
Well, think of J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, John Lennox, Tim Mackie, Michael Heiser, Frank Turek, and I could go on. All highly intelligent and "educated" people, but very much in love with Christ.
@@yesenia3816 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
He uses Jesus' name as an expletive, so it's very obvious! I was taken in by Oprah, 20 years ago, for being Christian-ish, and it made me raise my son rather genderless (one show was all about "just let kids be kids, without you telling them what they should or shouldn't play with or do"). I will not be drawn into another unbeliever's "wisdom," even if he does make sense a lot of the time. He has no regard for the name above all names, and that's all I need to know about him.
I totally agree. If you're a committed Christian, Peterson will not be of much use to you. But he has proven to be very effective at opening people's eyes to the inconsistencies of atheism, presenting them with a rationally stimulating view of belief in God and religion, and even drawing fallen away and lukewarm Christians back into a more active participation. I believe God is using him and, so far, he's been a docile and competent instrument. He made me think of the time the disciples saw somebody expelling demons and the disciples tried to stop him, but the Lord said, “Do not stop him, for whoever is not against you is for you.”
@@xaviervelascosuarez Yeah, that verse is an interesting one, given we're also supposed to "expose and avoid" those who deny Jesus is Lord in their proclamations. But I agree with you, that he has said some very good things and has been helpful. I love that he says to only speak the truth. Just that his reasons have nothing to do with pleasing God. And his explanation on how boys learn and develop through roughhousing-play with their dad, from a toddler, was a huge wake up call, to realise how VITALLY important men are. I guess my initial adoration of him turned to betrayal when I heard all his worldly reasons and adoration of the Satanist Yung. Just have to say, his stance that women wear make-up, only to be sexually appealing to men, is WAY off. His very made-up daughter should be able to tell him, lol.
Been listening to Peterson since 2015. I think he’s on the fringes of faith though he’s slowly inching closer. More of a deist than a theist which is clear from some of his videos.
Hey Becket, I really appreciate you and all your content. I love your testimony and it gives me so much hope for the LGBTQ community. I pray one day you can have a Godly marriage. I wish your father was here so he could give his testimony pertaining to you in his perspective ❤ About Jordan Peterson, he’s definitely not born again. But I pray he will be. I feel he really teaches a lot of what Jesus teaches when it comes to over coming adversity and taking responsibility for your actions. I sincerely pray he comes to Christ and gives his life fully.
I pray that Dr. Peterson will recognize that man's universal problem is sin. It is the cause of conflicts, the source of lies, the default of all human beings. And the only solution to this sin problem is to believe in the substitutionary death of Jesus. He died to pay the penalty of sins and all we need to do is to put our trust in Him, to repent of sins and rely on Him to sanctify us with His Word. Then he will find meaning to his life..
@@annelenander7387 I didn’t mean it should be a priority in his life. I’ve heard his testimony so many times and I actually relate to him so much. I was never attracted to the same sex but I did idolize my partners exactly how Becket did. Now I have a Godly marriage and focusing on the Lord has significantly changed my life and relationship. We don’t know God’s plan. It could be his plan for him to have a loving wife. Would that not still be a wonderful thing after everything he’s been through when it comes to relationships? There’s a big difference between idolizing your partner and worshiping God while having one and it’s a beautiful change. I think God has a purpose for everyone and saying one is of greater value is not what God’s message is. There’s a reason why God made Eve for Adam. Our purpose is to follow God’s plan, not to get into a certain status. He has mentioned he would like to experience a Godly marriage but it’s not a priority nor something he’s actively seeking. Either way I rejoice what the Lord has done for him. 😊
@@journeysabda I didn’t mean it should be a priority in his life. I’ve heard his testimony so many times and I actually relate to him so much. I was never attracted to the same sex but I did idolize my partners exactly how Becket did. Now I have a Godly marriage and focusing on the Lord has significantly changed my life and relationship. We don’t know God’s plan. It could be his plan for him to have a loving wife. Would that not still be a wonderful thing after everything he’s been through when it comes to relationships? There’s a big difference between idolizing your partner and worshiping God while having one and it’s a beautiful change. I think God has a purpose for everyone and saying one is of greater value is not what God’s message is. There’s a reason why God made Eve for Adam. Our purpose is to follow God’s plan, not to get into a certain status. He has mentioned he would like to experience a Godly marriage but it’s not a priority nor something he’s actively seeking. Either way I rejoice what the Lord has done for him. 😊
I love this conversation, and it flooded my eyes with tears, reflecting on how the Lord "grabbed me by the scruff of the neck" , when I was dying in 2016. I was not seeking or inquisitive at all regarding God/Jesus, as I laid there dying, but out of God's neverending mercy, He spoke to my heart, and led me out of my nightmare situation, and from that moment on, I sought Him with all my heart. I pray everyone has a situation like that, because it was undeniable that God is REAL & ALIVE living amongst us, and there is no way anyone could convince me otherwise now. I would have certainly gone to Hell that day had I died, and I had no idea I was heading to Hell for eternity. I think before that moment, my heart was so hardened by the world, and while I was dying, I came to the end of my flesh, hence was able to hear the Lord speak to my heart on the spiritual level. All I know now for certain is that I can hear the Lord speak to my heart daily now since that experience, and HE is the one that showed me in 2019 what was quickly coming for us, and HE convicted me to not comply to any of the plandemic wickedness, and to warn as many as would listen. He is such a good good Father, and I'm eternally grateful to Him, and will serve Him the best a wretch like myself can. I have prayed for Peterson before, because just like you two discussed, I felt he was on the verge of coming into the truths, and I know what a powerful testimony he could be on this earth during these evil days. Thank you Becket!
I hold out great hope for Jordan Christian’s spiritual growth. He’s come a long way. There’s a learning curve for all of us seeking “the” truth. It’s a very personal experience finding our own path. I think those of us who have been “saved” or have been fortunate to have experienced God’s omnipotent love for years are blessed. God gives helpful advice to everyone who obeys Him and protects all of those who live as they should. Prov. 2:7
Happy late Thanksgiving. If you can please keep me and my daughter Julie in prayer, my son Jesse took his own life on November 5th. This was my first Thanksgiving with out my son Jesse. My daughter Julie is totally blaming God and the church. May God send Christians into her life to show his love to her. She cut me off and it hurts. We need the Lord to restore our mom and daughter relationship. Thanks so much for all prayers.
This has been a great discussion! Even more intriguing to me because when I heard Bethel's name, I realized that I know her mother - we went to Bible College together. She raised an intelligent, well-spoken young lady. Regarding "experience" salvation vs. "thought-provoked" salvation, I side with Bethel's comment regarding the mystery of how God deals with each of us. Beckett needed God to get his attention in a big way. Others follow God their entire lives without what one might say is a supernatural experience. But our passion for our Savior is no different! All true Christians love the Lord and are growing in knowledge and faith. God is mysterious and varied enough to accommodate all of our needs and fulfill all desires, in Him!
Wow Becket! Your English accent is impressive:) This was an awesome interview, really enjoyed your guest! I know many Christians are praying for Jordan P. to accept Christ!!
Am a fan of both you and Chynna and was delighted to see you mention JP! Sharing the same city, at one time, as JP, several years ago, before he became the phenom he is now, I had the privilege of interviewing him at his home here in Toronto, about a documentary I was thinking about doing and wanted him to be a part of it. The topic was on the simple little subject, of Truth 🥴😳🥴- what was I thinking!!!!!???? He was very gracious to me even though the doc wasn't fully formulated in my mind. I ended up sharing my story of how I came to Christ, also supernaturally, and began praying for him from that point. Two years after that, all hell broke loose against him at UofT propelling him into the limelight, shortly after that. Not saying at all that what had happened to him was due to my prayers, but wanted to make the point that with all that did happen to him, I no longer needed to give any further thought about my passion at the time, of addressing what seemed like an error in people's thinking when it came to looking at life truthfully - all that JP is and was about at that time. Since then, he has certainly lived out that analysis of the Truth, which I thought I wanted do through my, what now seems, silly documentary. I really enjoyed watching your interview with Bethel and just wanted to say that I totally agree with you Becket, about coming to faith involving some sort of revelation to ignite the human spirit into awareness that we even have a spirit, as well as that conviction that can only come through the Holy Spirit! It doesn't have to translate into being an emotional experience as it was with you Becket, but ultimately it is a circumcision of the heart that suddenly recognizes that there is a new perspective on what we thought was real. Maybe it all starts with a spirit of humility? JP has humility in spades, at least on the outside, but ultimately it's only the Holy Spirit who can best judge that. Just wanted to say that as I think about how close he appears to be to taking that leap of faith, his situation reminds me of when we see file after file after file, to infinitude, on a computer screen. It is a picture of where people like him get taken by intellectualism. I'm not one who thinks that when we come to faith that we leave our intellects at the door and I'm so grateful for your intellectual commentary on things cultural - you add so much to the cultural discussion, which is sorely needed within the Christian community. But I'm drawn to what Paul wrote about strongholds. I think being caught in the trap of trusting only that which can be explained or reasoned, is as much of a stronghold upon a soul as any kind of sin, habit or addiction. Intellectualism, although it appears as highly advantageous and contributes a lot to human thought, can lead to us cutting out the spiritual part of our humanity. We've all been groomed by our society to prize the intellect and devalue things of the S/spirit. However, isn't it interesting that we live in a time where many are "identifying" as "spiritual but not religious" despite all this silent grooming? Probably, like many, my heart broke when I saw Jordan speaking and weeping about his struggle to accept the notion of the kind of role that this Jesus could possibly take in his life, yet he couldn't make that aforementioned "leap." As I watched that heart-wrenching interview, I could feel how trapped he was in the intellectual matrix and had no way to get out of it, despite his accumulated wisdom, knowledge and psychological understanding of the human condition. I couldn't help but feel his intellectual pain. I'm glad you made the point about coming to faith being more than just making an 'ascent' to faith. You were right in saying that it is more than that. If that's all it was, I think JP would have made that ascent by now. He needs what you had, which is revelation of the Holy Spirit, who, as a person in the Godhead, will reveal to him everything that is in his own heart. Maybe it's time we stop making "ascent" for things of the intellect only, as that is only half of what we are as human beings. Through your rigorous questioning, while acknowledging that every soul's true home belongs in the spiritual realm, you bring both intellectual and spiritual integrity into this wired world. People in and out of the church, no longer have to be embarrassed by mention of things belonging to the spiritual realm. All of these well-known agnostics/atheists from Peterson, Murray and Harris, desperately need the prayers, whether they realize it or not, of those of us who unabashedly live in the spiritual realm under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Because we are talking an actual realm, it really does come down to making a leap beyond the intellect, not in denial of it, which might just only be paved through the prayers of others. Sorry to be so long-winded here, but this show provoked me into wandering if we might be on the cusp of thinking in yet another new way. As usual Becket, another great show!
Two things I would like to mention. Psychologist are not specializing in SCRIPTURE in fact they are "replacing" making the patient feel confident. Jesus teaches humility no matter your interlect. I think MR. Peterson is doing a great SERVICE considering what he was TAUGHT.
I think he was very popular as a university profesor for 30 ys. His students were always m much helped by this course, were very enthusiastic about his lectures. He had everything in the internet! Those lectures were quite polished through 30 years practice. He read a book per day since he was little.
What a great episode!! Thank you for having such an intelligent, well-spoken woman on. If church were this informative, I’d think about going more. Churches usually are too busy chewing on milk and it was great to get a big dose of meat to chew on tonight. God bless!
Happy Thanksgiving! Jordan Peterson’s daughter is a very outspoken Christian now. I don’t really have any doubt that Jordan Peterson is a Christian either. He has experienced repentance and remorse. He tears up every time he talks about Jesus.
I agree with Becket. I was brought up with a father who had lost his faith owing to higher criticism of the Bible and that affected me. I was very science minded. Apologetics could get me so far, but I needed a direct experience of God's presence to get me over the hump. And why not? The first commandment according to Jesus is to love God, which is a relationship thing. It's about relationship more than theology or ritual - important as they can be. So like many others I persistently prayed, "God I don't believe you are real, but if you are please show me." During 9 months the sense of His presence was so consistent that I had to accept He had answered my prayer and the rest is history. That was 50 years ago and He has done so may amazing things since then.
I'm thankful for your ministry, Beckett! Great interview once again. The pressing question of moralism is, "Says who?" Why is evil, evil, and good, good? Says who? Jordan teaches "some truth." The concern is that he may mislead people away from Jesus and the truth found in him. Let us pray for his eyes to be opened. Jesus said, "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day" Jn 6:44.
exactly,you are right! I agree: Jordan teaches "some truth." The concern is that he may mislead people away from Jesus and the truth found in him....I even hear someone say he is the best preacher in the world, I am sad
Right, and I've seen many celebrating what appears to them to be Peterson coming to the truth as he goes through the Bible. Hopefully he does repent and surrender to Jesus but my concern is what I've seen so far reveals nothing much really seens to have changed about how he approaches scripture but I guess time will tell. I really wish folks that admire him but don't believe would not hang onto to his every word but instead seek after God themselves.
I have explained it this way. As humans we are constantly at crossroads in our lives or may better described as a room with two doors leading out of it. One door leads closer to God. The other further away. As people make choices to move away from God the doors in that direction often get larger and easier to pass through. The further one goes down the path the more desperate one must become to find his way back to God. On the otherhand as people choose to take steps toward God the doors become more and more inviting towards him. Thanks be to God that he is a “whosoever will God” and truly wants all to come to him. And so as long as there is breath one can still be drawn to Him. It is my prayer that Peterson and others like him ultimately are drawn to God and find the peace and joy they so obviously want. Becket I very much enjoy you podcasts and your testimony. Keep up the good work.
Wow, this was interesting. I agree with what you are saying Becket around the 50 timestamp mark. The Holy Spirit definitely need to draw us and do a work in our hearts. Maybe it's the difference between head knowledge and experiencing a touch from God in our hearts. The other thing I want to point out and maybe it's obvious because apparently I state the obvious a lot is that Jordan seems to be interpreting the scriptures as a metaphor or archetype. I don't know if he actually believes in the historical facts of the Bible. As I am learning how to properly interpret the scriptures I was told not to read meaning into the text. There are prescriptive text and descriptive text. Oh, this is interesting as I was the last few minutes which I didn't yesterday. It seems Becket and Bethel do have differing opinions regarding how a person is saved. I am leaning more towards only by the grace and mercy of God is anyone saved. God saved Paul. I know this gets very deep and debate-able. Anyway, praise God if you are saved. That is what I will reflect on today!
I have been praying for Jordan Peterson’s salvation. May he be convicted of sin, of righteousness, and of judgement. 🙏🏻 May he accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
I love watching this channel. Beckettt is such an amazing interviewer.. he is so respectful to the amazing guests on his show ane doesnt interupt th.em
I adore JP. He’s principled and was willing to suffer for it, so he already has experience with the suffering part…as for what it would take for him to get there…some people are hit with a lighting bolt, others are wooed with whispers…interesting ‘whosoever will’ v. TULIP🌷-esque exchange there at the end. Be blessed.✨
I love Jordan Peterson and I truly appreciate his work. He is contributing to the good of society, especially in these days, where so many turned their backs to God and lost their way. Peterson was a key person for me to get an interest in the Bible. God was already working in me on that, and Peterson helped with his Genesis lectures. He helped me start to see that the Bible is relevant and grounded in reality. But then, after getting deeper into Scripture and know who God really is (and not who I thought He was), Peterson’s lectures on God started to feel superficial and even, pardon me, somewhat childish. There’s a stumbling block in his spiritual journey. Part of it, I think, it’s his intellect. Which is ironic... because his intellect and style of thinking is what made him relevant and popular. If He opens his heart to accept God as a personal God, much of his world and ways of thinking will collapse. He will have to change, and that can be a scary thing. But it’s absolutely worth it, of course... I pray that Jordan Peterson finds God one day. 🙏🏻 That he comes to know Jesus, the Perfect Man-God, that I know he already admires and appreciates so much, even if only on an intellectual level.
Yes, I agree。 Christian inclinations are not enough, life will change only if you give yourself completely to God. So I believe that for Dr. Jordan, this may be a long way to go, may God bless him
So glad to find this video!! I've been praying for Dr. Peterson! Let's be reminded to be even more vigilant in our prayers. Lord, bring JP to the knowledge of Jesus Christ!!
Wow, I knew of Bethel through Facebook and her music here on TH-cam but this is the first interview kind of thing I've seen her do. I greatly admire both her parents and love the content they've been producing. I look forward to seeing more content like this from Bethel as well. 😁
I feel like Dr. Peterson is being diminished here. Even though he is not a believer he encourages people to go to church and be godly. He believes there’s no better way to life than the Christian belief. He made an interview in the Joe Rogan podcast and he said in that interview: “The Bible is the precondition for truth.” So, I know he is not Christian but he is helping a lot of people to go back to church and believes wholeheartedly that our whole western culture has as its base in the word of God. Thus, I like him and respect him a lot.
This interview was such an accurate study of Jordan Peterson's view of Christianity! I felt he had some reverence towards Christianity but hadn't understood the full gospel.
God reaches each of us in the way we need to be. He definitely loves variety as we are each so unique. Even cuttlefish each have a different personality. From a "Road to Damascus" to the very subtle. The only thing that doesn't change is that Christ is the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but by him.
I have come to same conclusion as I was very interested in him and rise to notoriety- I at first worried that he was offering something that would be a counterfeit to real conversion and relationship with Christ. While this may be an issue with the many followers he has - I can see he is so close and an honest sincere person and pray for him to be pushed across the threshold. I pray for those that follow him that they can take one step further as well that nothing in this life is sustainable without His power.
I'm strongly with Bethel's position that "assent" is necessary and sufficient to any person's decision to embrace the Christian faith. Becket's insistence on (the happenstance of) an individual phenomenal encounter with Jesus is, in my view a conceit. Yes, many are fortunate to have such definitive, instantaneous, life-changing experiences but this is by no means common to everyone. Many are the roads to conversion and I for one appreciate Dr. McGrew's measured and realistic stance.
⏩ *Beckett, contact Jordan's daughter Mikhaila Petersen.* She produces his show. In fact, *she has been on her own journey to Christ.* You should have her on your show too! (I also could totally see you on her show. She interviews a lot of Christians on the journey. They would absolutely LOVE you!)
I agree with Becket...There are times when people need God to reach them in a special way to get their attention...Only he knows how to do this- He knows everyone's heart and how to reach them...and it's up to that person to accept his calling.
…so I stopped to make my comment just short of the last few minutes of this interview. I listened on and you mentioned the ‘Hound of Heaven’ YES!! Smiling, so tracking with you. Meeting JP that evening was God’s providence.❤
Becket, I am obsessed with your show. You are sooo kind and compassionate. I would love you to tell your story on Relevant Radio on the Patrick Madrid show!
I would say a very good description of where JP is in his walk...right now he is being taken on by the Ontario College , and may lose is degree in Psychology ...we need to pray that these issues may break his heart and allow him to realize he needs Christ ...before they break his mind. We all need to pray for him !!!!
Thanks for having this talk! Good thoughts. Also appreciate how you were both respectful in having different soteriological beliefs, ie, Calvinism vs. Non-Calvinism.
I'm a fan of Mr. Peterson!! I'm commenting before I watch so can't wait to hear this. I also like his round table talk on Exodus he's doing over on the Daily wire. I was listening to a song today Becket and you popped in my mind. I dont know if you know someone who needs to hear it , so I'm asking you to listen to it and do with it what you will. It's Zach Williams' song , " Heart of God." Thank you, and God Bless.
If you've seen him speak with Johnathan Pageau, you'll see him break down when talking about believing in Christ. It's powerful and maybe you should look at that interview, Becket.
I'm a Canadian who grew up in the United Church and, yup, you hit the nail on the head in your description of the United Church of Canada, Bethel McGrew. The theology there is definitely 'squishy'.
i really enjoyed the little debate becket and bethel had at the end about God actively reaching out to people vs people opening up their hearts and reaching out for God. Such an interesting conversation and i kept pausing to think out what i would say if i were there haha. God did not reach out and grab me, I first believed through apologetics (and growing up in the church), but when I believed, I did not have saving faith until years later. God was very patient with me and slowly opened my heart through prayer and reading of his Word upon going to a very Bible-centric church. So God is very active and his Spirit does reach out to all of us in a way, but I also think that people really do need to humble themselves and seek God. I also strongly think that there is enough evidence to intellectually believe even without a supernatural or spiritual experience. But this belief can be stagnant and never become true faith if you don't humble yourself, realize your sins, and if God never opens your eyes to these things. I praise God for saving me. It is Him alone who receives the glory, but that is not to say that we don't have any responsibility or any agency to seek Him. It is different for everyone though, Becket, like Paul, was blessed with such a sudden and powerful conversion story. But ALL of our conversion stories are so wonderful.
I accepted Jesus as a child when I was not looking for Him, so I believe He "reached out" to me because of His mercy. He knew that I would desperately need Him early on in life. I believe God chooses us before we choose Him. I find it fascinating that some choose Him and others reject Him.
- I just discovered your channel and am listening to different episodes and I so enjoy each topic. I also attended his Friday, Nov 11, 2022 event at the You Tube Theater here in Southern California. 👍🏼
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Dear Becket
I would like to add a short comment about Jordan Peterson. I have heard his daughter speak about her mother as a devout catholic who, in her upbringing. frequently talked a lot about the catholic faith. I have also understood from others, that Jordan's wife is a catholic Christian. However, he himself speaks of his wife as a person who consciously seeks out friends who are deeply committed to their faith, but he does not speak of her as a believer. However, she would appear to be deeply seeking. That is as much as I can offer to the Conversation. Thank you Becket. God bless you. My name - Steve
I have been following Jordan Peterson since 2016 and he was instrumental to my coming to faith in Christ. I was a hardcore atheist and definitely of a similar opinion to Sam Harris that no rational person could possibly believe in God or Jesus. But I held these opinions from a state of almost complete ignorance of the Bible. What I was familiar with was Jung and Freud and Nietzsche, etc. I listened to every moment of Peterson's biblical series (and more) and he really opened my mind to the real question that I refused to look at, namely: "if not God, then what?" (Edit: and "what makes me think I'm so much smarter than believers" as well)
However, I have not listened to him since I came to faith because, although he has a brilliant mind and asks great questions, he's missing the Gospel. I have prayed for him to soften his heart to the gospel many times both for his sake but also for the sake of the Kingdom. Can you imagine his intellect fighting for the good news?? It would be an amazing sight, I believe.
Loved this conversation.
He believes, he just isnt a Baptist (yet)!
@@jazznoteblue5393 goodness this makes me laugh, but i think you need to listen to more jordan peterson if you think hes gonna associate with any denomination , and I mean no offense, but especially baptists haha. Just based on his lectures...take care
@@benlarivee9625 i have a dry sense of humor
@@jazznoteblue5393 😅
Praise the Lord, how he can use JP's questions to bring Atheist thinkers to the kingdom! Check out gracetoyou it is another good teacher.
Five years ago I was an atheist. A friend of mine introduced me to Bill Moyer’ interviews of Joseph Campbell in “The Power of Myth.” I was fascinated. Joe Rogan introduced me to Dr. Peterson and I was obsessed. Then my sister was born-again. She started praying for me and throwing CS Lewis books at me. I was born-again about a year ago.
Once I was born-again I stopped listening to Dr. Peterson. Now I listen to The Bible, Mike Winger, Beckett Cook, Alisa Childers, Dr. Leighton Flowers, etc… When I was an atheist, Peterson’s secular analysis of the Bible was rich and compelling. As a believer, Peterson’s secular analysis of the Bible is stale, flat, and not true. This flip in my perspective taught me humility.
The problem with the Bible is the Observer Effect. The reader finds what they want to find. Atheists read the Bible to prove it wrong. Surprise…they prove it wrong. Secularists read it to find an efficient way to engineer human beings and societies. They find some parts they wrench out of context and put together a Rube Goldberg Machine.
One Bible Scholar said to understand the Bible the reader must read it with Love. I’m finally realizing I must read the Bible with Love, because the Christain God is Love. In doing so, I am learning the point of the Bible…to know God, my creator and to follow his plan. For the Christain, life on Earth is preparation for eternal life in God’s Kingdom. We prepare by denying ourselves, taking up our cross, and following the light of the world, Jesus Christ. Todd Rundgren , the Atheist/Agnostic was right. Thank you, God. Thanks, sis.
Amen, great comment! I couldn't agree more! And honestly, it's testimonies like yours that demonstrate the best possible outcome of interacting with the ideas of crypto-christian guys like Peterson; that they act as an introduction to the power of the Bible, and as a gateway into at least considering the concept of god. It's sad that we have to leave Jordan behind as we go past conceptions of god and forward into *relationship* with *The* *Living* *God* , but let's pray that Jordan finally leap across the metaphysical chasm he has helped so many secular/materialist people reconsider for themselves.
@@efrainperezjr402 Amen indeed. Well put.
The Hebrew God isn't real, but if believing in him helps you improve your life, then so be it.
That's essentially Jordan Peterson's message.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian I would say that Peterson is painfully aware of the hopeless ineptitude of human words to refer to God. He says that God is not real in the same way we're real, and he's right. He hasn't figured out yet that the reality of God both encompasses and transcends our reality and any other.
Thank you for exploring the topic of Jordan Peterson’s ideas of God, religion and faith. Like I said the other day, he’s soooo close! Praying he turns his head knowledge into heart knowing Faith. I pray he can see past his own intellectualism and caricature of the god he’s made in his own image. God is working in Him, let us continue to pray for him. On our knees!
As Christians, we should pray for him and his family. ❤
Amen!
I still love Dr. Peterson. At least he is not trying to deceive people-that is what I see now. I am keeping him in my prayers.
Loved this episode. JP is brilliant and understands the big picture of what is happening in the world today, but not on a spiritual level. He may be close though..keep praying for him!❤️
Me too. We should all pray for this man.
I think God is using him in a big way, without him completely understanding it. JP was a stepping stone for me, a way to transition form an anti-christian, anti-rules, hurt, broken, sick, chaotic mess into a deeper thinking, christian. Eventually Jesus took off and I stopped being attracted to JP all that much, stopped watching. But I could never deny how important his lectures, insights, dedication to his work and his audience and just pure compassion for the world, had a huge, huge impact on me and served me a ton at the starting point in my journey to the Truth.
it's been years and I still feel like I'm in the very beginning of the journey, but when I look back... a lot has been done, so gently and patiently. Thank you, Yeshua.
I agree. Not quite there yet. Keep praying. He will definitely let us know when he is…
Oh he definitely is - he is still in shock about it, but there can be no doubt.
Jack Hibbs o Calvary Chapel Chino Hills has declared to pray for him.
I feel like Jordan is Christian-leaning, but he seems to be reluctant to give himself fully to God. He uses logic more than the spirit
Being so smart and “educated” can be a real stumbling block to child-like faith. Being too wise for ones own well-being. Praying with all earnestness for the born-again salvations of the Peterson family. They seem like lovely people.
Great assessment.
@Lordpraisethe
He does use the spirit. What do you mean? Is it because he does not succumb to dogma (Christian dogma, in this case) that he is not using the spirit. He is entirely guided by his spirit.
@@paulthomas281 He ain't guided by no spirit.
@@rachybaby72 So says the all-knower.
I had to stop listening to Jordan Peterson - it was like being led through a dark labyrinth of confusion- he’s not born again- that’s what’s missing and he doesn’t have the peace that surpasses understanding - Jordan just needs to actually read the word - thank you Becket I enjoyed listening to this commentary
@@theodosios2615 yes - it was doing my head in - the man is in pain - we should pray for him
The dark part of Jordan Peterson is it leads to people listening to Kanye, Kyrie, Andrew Tate and many others who seem right but because they don't have Jesus it leads to death
I agree. I Recently, watch an interview with Jordan Peterson, Douglas Murray and Jonathan Praeau discussing, Science v.s. Religion a rather painful interview to watch. It's seemed they, both Jordan and Douglas were tried to intellectualize faith in Christ Jesus.
However, they both came up, short.
I pray both Jordan and Douglas continue to seek the truth and that, others will continue to plant Seeds of faith.
Completely agree here. 100% he says some good things but he is incomprehensible
@@dataseeker1 Exactly. I tend to agree. Jordan Has spoken; with clarity on many topics. However, on the substance Faith and Religion. He makes it to complicated.
Hey Beckett! So blessed by your TH-cam ministry! I've heard from his daughter Michela that she has found Jesus and his wife has also found Jesus. I believe God is surrounding him with Godly people, including you!
Same thoughts here. Been listening to both of them for years.
I'm 1/4 the way thru this talk and stopped to read the comments yours stood out.
Wondering how Bethel can come to a foregone conclusion after going to a 2018 lecture --- Seriously?
He was just coming off of Benzo addiction withdrawal (given the script by a Dr due to the stress of his wife's cancer and in rehab with suicidal ideation due to a horrific, painful process.
It was then that he began a big "transformation" or better yet started to gain far more biblical perspectives.
It's almost 2023 and he has grown substantially and probable doesn't want to openly declare his Faith b/c of the tremendous attention it would create.
He's a sensitive man and he went thru alot of stress over the pronoun issue. As Christians we need to show compassion for him.
It is obvious he is He's remaining in low profile---
I hope Beckett has him on his show!
Completely agree with your statement.
Sharing one’s journey on social media is soul destroying ,(from what I I’ve experienced to date.) wait until you get there ,when you are satisfied with the out me. These intellectual snobs ,love to analyze you to bits. WHY NOT ASK DR.PETERSON THE QUESTION NOW.- Bet he’ll give a different/ better answer.🎶🎶I CAN SEE CLEARLY. NOW---🎵
That's amazing! His brother in law seems like he might be from the little bit I know. Not positive though. I'm praying for him. :)
Michala has converted to catholicism I believe.
I love Jordan Petersen's authentic humanity. He does not profess to be a theologian he is a psychologist. I seldom care what people "think" about other people. I think it is absurd to take him out of context and to assess him according to our christian view. It would be SO MUCH BETTER to have him on here for a first hand dialogue. That would be brilliant!
We are to look at everything through the word of God, study to show yourself approved. No one of discounting his love for humanity and the people hes helped or taking anything out of context.
I don't disagree with the imperative of discerning God's will and His voice in our lives as believers, to rightly divide the scriptures and apply His truth to our life. I am not sure why you are drawing the conclusion that I am saying that the podcast is trying to discount Jordans love for humanity. As I've already said above, I would love to see a direct conversation between Beckett and Petersen.
@@heatherblack1684 You said it's absurd to take him out of context and assess him according to our Christian view. Are we not to look at everything and everyone with and through the word of God?
I did and how does the Scripture say we are to view and interact with the world and non Christians? To your point, the assessment is a simple one, he has not professed faith, so according to the scripture he is someone who God loves, he is sinner in need of a savior. Just like you and just like me and every other human on the planet. Can unsaved people be moral, sure! Other than that He is not a Christian, who is deeply loved by God; a secular psychologist.
@@Sylver_Echo2923 yeah, but to put it out all over the world....its like you're judging where hes at and people will keep Jordan frozen in this mocking assessment.
I'm a Christian and I enjoy Jordan's lectures and interviews. Whether or not he's as a Christian or not is not my business but if he's not he soon will be. He's very intelligent and I enjoy him very much
I don't think viewing and using the bible as a mere collection of psychological archetypes is at all respectful of christianity... he is a billion miles away from being a Christian.
Wow, you presume to know his heart. God admonishes " judge not that ye be not judged". That's judgement by God. Only God can know the heart.
@@jotorrisi4084 It's not a secret, he's open about his views of the bible... everything is a mere archetype or biology. He's honest about his views.
@@damienroberts934 So was Jesus.
@@damienroberts934 right. He still seems to be calling what's in the Bible stories.
I got baptized Becket :) , happy thanks Giving !!!!
@ Pacifist Identitarian CONGRATS ON your public display of your love and commitment to our Lord & Savior 🤗🙏❤️ Continue to readHis Word for growth, clarity & discernment
You meeting Jordan Peterson in public sounds to me like a God-made event. I really think that God brought you two together to meet, and I will pray that Jordan accepts your offer to come on the show. That would be great every party involved.
I somehow found this channel. I'm now binge watching. I ordered your book - A change of Affection. It arrived yesterday. Very uplifting book. I love how you deliver your message. I can truly relate.
Thank you. God Bless
Ohh. I'm gonna get it. I didn't realize he had one.
This woman is COOOOLLLLLLL!! 😃
Thanks for having her on and introducing her to us! ☀️
I would like to have a friend like you, Becket. Just walking on the same road since I reconciled with God two months ago. Your testmonies are helping me a lot. Pray for me!!
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I'll pray for you. God takes our realities (anything that is not perfect which entails ALL of us) and makes these things into something beautiful that has a great impact on others. Blessings...
@@michellemooresings Amen!!! God bless you!!
Loved this conversation. To me, I find it great that Dr. Peterson doesn't answer that he is a Christian if he isn't. I believe from what I've seen is that he is currently "counting the cost". I thought it was quite horrible when at the end of his convocation at Liberty University that they were trying hard to have him declare himself a Christian before he was ready to do so. As Christians we are in a hurry to get people saved and to our discredit many fall away because they have neglected to consider being all in. If God's time is not linear we do not need to rush people. We need to remember at all times that God wants him to be saved even more than we do~
Don’t ever let anyone discourage your accents, Beckett!! ❤ And praying Jordan will come on the show!!!! ❤❤❤
Thankful for having a teacher and friend like Becket Cook and Company!
This episode opened up a door of discussion with my grown sons visiting on Thanksgiving day. They turned away from God during college and God is slowly drawing them back. They used to listen to Jordan Peterson, and read his book. I agree that he's on the doorstep. I also agree with Becket that God does have to reveal himself or we are not really saved! Thank you Becket for this discussion. I will start praying for Jordan Peterson, which I had commited to even before the completion of this episode.
Unfortunately, our universities are infiltrated with teaching that is the very opposite of God. Pray for your boys that their mind, body and souls will be protected by God.
Happy Thanksgiving, Becket and everyone watching today! ❤🍁🦃🍁
Happy Thanksgiving ❤😊
@@rjules1083 Thank you!
To you as well! 🦃
@@lecoeur1231 thank you!
Happy Thanksgiving Monica!
This is the very question I've been thinking about the last month. Thank you for additional insight and confirmation for things that I had sensed. I definitely love Jordan Peterson, and will pray for him. Would love to see him in heaven.
Im pretty sure God would be happy to have him surrending to the faith completely but I'm also pretty sure he helped so much atheists to look at the word of God...sometimes much more than religious preachers and he saved so many young adults to get their life on the right tracks, avoiding suicide acts, honoring their parents, accepting to go towards engagements and true love in mariage ...I'm proud God gave us this loving soul, having everything he has to understand people and trying to lead them in the good direction. Just wanted to say that God looks at our heart and there is a good chance we will see him in the good part of heaven if we go there too ;)
Happy Thanksgiving Mr Cook. The in depth interviews and Bible study is just a God send.
Maybe he's counting the cost of following Christ - loss of worldly status, friends, maybe family, giving up sin, being mocked and compared to the loons on "Christian" TV, etc. It took me a long time to abandon all to follow Him.
I don't know if you've ever heard Derek Prince, Becket, but he received a Ph.D. from Kings College at Cambridge and became a Christian. He has that philosopher background and is quite an articulate and profound teacher.
The timing of this certainly IS hilarious -- I have been hoping Jordan Peterson would be a guest of Becket's in the VERY near future!
That would very interesting 🤔
Probably Not after this show
Mr. Jordan Peterson is not a Christian… yet………
This is why I speak to them in parables: ‘Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.’ Matt. 13:13
Perhaps some people suppose they need to hear an audible voice to believe, but they circulate in such intellectual circles, I doubt if many would believe, even if they heard a voice. They might chalk it up to a dream or some psychedelic flashback. I am only familiar with Jordan P., and not the other gentlemen you mentioned, and I have seen him literally in tears when speaking about the love and mercy of Jesus; he is so close. Close is good, but close only works if you finally reach a destination. Personally, I had to recognize my own sinfulness, and I asked God, "If you are real, please reveal Yourself to me," and He certainly did that for me. Not being raised a Christian, I had never read more than a few verses from the bible, but by the time I had read the New Testament, there was no doubt in my mind that Jesus Christ is Lord. Not only was there love, mercy and forgiveness, but the wisdom I found absolutely floored me, and the realization that there was a literal hell scared me to death. Jordan is almost there, and I pray that he takes that final step and enter into the Kingdom of God. Great show Becket!
G'day, Marcus Vaughn! Justin Peters has said something like this: "If you want to hear God, read the Bible. If you want to hear God audibly, read the Bible out loud."
@@lindacowles756 yes, this is so true! I love Brother Peters' ministry and I subscribe to his channel and get his daily readings. I love the quote you gave from him, thank you! God bless
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! 🦃🍁🍂
Becket, It's amazing you ran into Jordan Peterson at a BH restaurant! Wish you guys could have had a longer conversation, even if it was after his lecture. I have listened to a few JP lectures and interviews. He isn't a Christian yet, but he is not far away from being born again. He has Christian convictions and respects Christian thought. I respect the man and how he tries to help and guide the youths of today.
Happy 100th episode, Becket!
Thanks for sharing this Becket! Being so smart and “educated” seems like it can be a real stumbling block to child-like faith in our Savior, Jesus/Yeshua. Being too wise for ones own well-being. It’s a two edged sword. Praying with all earnestness for the born-again salvations of the Peterson family. They seem like lovely people. Your truthfulness and way about you is so needed and appreciated!!!
Well, think of J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, John Lennox, Tim Mackie, Michael Heiser, Frank Turek, and I could go on. All highly intelligent and "educated" people, but very much in love with Christ.
@@yesenia3816 Blaise Paschal. Isaac Newton, Gregor Mendel...
@@amapola53 Your point?
Yes there are many who are too smart for their own good!!
@@yesenia3816 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
He uses Jesus' name as an expletive, so it's very obvious! I was taken in by Oprah, 20 years ago, for being Christian-ish, and it made me raise my son rather genderless (one show was all about "just let kids be kids, without you telling them what they should or shouldn't play with or do"). I will not be drawn into another unbeliever's "wisdom," even if he does make sense a lot of the time. He has no regard for the name above all names, and that's all I need to know about him.
Amen! 👍🙏
I totally agree. If you're a committed Christian, Peterson will not be of much use to you. But he has proven to be very effective at opening people's eyes to the inconsistencies of atheism, presenting them with a rationally stimulating view of belief in God and religion, and even drawing fallen away and lukewarm Christians back into a more active participation.
I believe God is using him and, so far, he's been a docile and competent instrument. He made me think of the time the disciples saw somebody expelling demons and the disciples tried to stop him, but the Lord said, “Do not stop him, for whoever is not against you is for you.”
@@xaviervelascosuarez Yeah, that verse is an interesting one, given we're also supposed to "expose and avoid" those who deny Jesus is Lord in their proclamations. But I agree with you, that he has said some very good things and has been helpful.
I love that he says to only speak the truth. Just that his reasons have nothing to do with pleasing God.
And his explanation on how boys learn and develop through roughhousing-play with their dad, from a toddler, was a huge wake up call, to realise how VITALLY important men are.
I guess my initial adoration of him turned to betrayal when I heard all his worldly reasons and adoration of the Satanist Yung.
Just have to say, his stance that women wear make-up, only to be sexually appealing to men, is WAY off. His very made-up daughter should be able to tell him, lol.
Thank you!
Now, THAT'S CLARITY.
Been listening to Peterson since 2015. I think he’s on the fringes of faith though he’s slowly inching closer. More of a deist than a theist which is clear from some of his videos.
Hey Becket, I really appreciate you and all your content. I love your testimony and it gives me so much hope for the LGBTQ community. I pray one day you can have a Godly marriage. I wish your father was here so he could give his testimony pertaining to you in his perspective ❤
About Jordan Peterson, he’s definitely not born again. But I pray he will be. I feel he really teaches a lot of what Jesus teaches when it comes to over coming adversity and taking responsibility for your actions. I sincerely pray he comes to Christ and gives his life fully.
The higher status to to remain single and focused on the Lord.
Marriage is not a priority.
The higher status is to remain single and serve The Lord.
Living the life to bring glory to Jesus, our God.
I pray that Dr. Peterson will recognize that man's universal problem is sin. It is the cause of conflicts, the source of lies, the default of all human beings. And the only solution to this sin problem is to believe in the substitutionary death of Jesus. He died to pay the penalty of sins and all we need to do is to put our trust in Him, to repent of sins and rely on Him to sanctify us with His Word. Then he will find meaning to his life..
@@annelenander7387 I didn’t mean it should be a priority in his life. I’ve heard his testimony so many times and I actually relate to him so much. I was never attracted to the same sex but I did idolize my partners exactly how Becket did. Now I have a Godly marriage and focusing on the Lord has significantly changed my life and relationship. We don’t know God’s plan. It could be his plan for him to have a loving wife. Would that not still be a wonderful thing after everything he’s been through when it comes to relationships? There’s a big difference between idolizing your partner and worshiping God while having one and it’s a beautiful change. I think God has a purpose for everyone and saying one is of greater value is not what God’s message is. There’s a reason why God made Eve for Adam. Our purpose is to follow God’s plan, not to get into a certain status. He has mentioned he would like to experience a Godly marriage but it’s not a priority nor something he’s actively seeking. Either way I rejoice what the Lord has done for him. 😊
@@journeysabda I didn’t mean it should be a priority in his life. I’ve heard his testimony so many times and I actually relate to him so much. I was never attracted to the same sex but I did idolize my partners exactly how Becket did. Now I have a Godly marriage and focusing on the Lord has significantly changed my life and relationship. We don’t know God’s plan. It could be his plan for him to have a loving wife. Would that not still be a wonderful thing after everything he’s been through when it comes to relationships? There’s a big difference between idolizing your partner and worshiping God while having one and it’s a beautiful change. I think God has a purpose for everyone and saying one is of greater value is not what God’s message is. There’s a reason why God made Eve for Adam. Our purpose is to follow God’s plan, not to get into a certain status. He has mentioned he would like to experience a Godly marriage but it’s not a priority nor something he’s actively seeking. Either way I rejoice what the Lord has done for him. 😊
I love this conversation, and it flooded my eyes with tears, reflecting on how the Lord "grabbed me by the scruff of the neck" , when I was dying in 2016. I was not seeking or inquisitive at all regarding God/Jesus, as I laid there dying, but out of God's neverending mercy, He spoke to my heart, and led me out of my nightmare situation, and from that moment on, I sought Him with all my heart. I pray everyone has a situation like that, because it was undeniable that God is REAL & ALIVE living amongst us, and there is no way anyone could convince me otherwise now. I would have certainly gone to Hell that day had I died, and I had no idea I was heading to Hell for eternity. I think before that moment, my heart was so hardened by the world, and while I was dying, I came to the end of my flesh, hence was able to hear the Lord speak to my heart on the spiritual level. All I know now for certain is that I can hear the Lord speak to my heart daily now since that experience, and HE is the one that showed me in 2019 what was quickly coming for us, and HE convicted me to not comply to any of the plandemic wickedness, and to warn as many as would listen. He is such a good good Father, and I'm eternally grateful to Him, and will serve Him the best a wretch like myself can. I have prayed for Peterson before, because just like you two discussed, I felt he was on the verge of coming into the truths, and I know what a powerful testimony he could be on this earth during these evil days. Thank you Becket!
I hold out great hope for Jordan Christian’s spiritual growth. He’s come a long way. There’s a learning curve for all of us seeking “the” truth. It’s a very personal experience finding our own path. I think those of us who have been “saved” or have been fortunate to have experienced God’s omnipotent love for years are blessed.
God gives helpful advice to everyone who obeys Him and protects all of those who live as they should. Prov. 2:7
Happy late Thanksgiving. If you can please keep me and my daughter Julie in prayer, my son Jesse took his own life on November 5th. This was my first Thanksgiving with out my son Jesse. My daughter Julie is totally blaming God and the church. May God send Christians into her life to show his love to her. She cut me off and it hurts. We need the Lord to restore our mom and daughter relationship.
Thanks so much for all prayers.
I will pray for you. I am so sorry for your tragic loss.
🙏🏽🥲💜
So sorry for your loss. I will pray for you
I am praying and will continue to do so for you and your family after your deep loss Felicia
Praying for you and your daughter and am so very sorry for your loss x
Hi, Becket, Congratulations on your episode 100!!! Jordan Peterson was the perfect topic for your 100th episode.
Good evening everyone and Happy Thanksgiving from Scotland!🙏👍🏴
I am in Scotland too, and I second your wishes.
God Bless
Now that’s graciousness for a Brit to wish an American a Happy Thanksgiving.
I’ve been to Scotland. Beautiful!!!!
Job 42:5 ►
My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.
Praying that Peterson, and millions of other people, will say these words one day.
This has been a great discussion! Even more intriguing to me because when I heard Bethel's name, I realized that I know her mother - we went to Bible College together. She raised an intelligent, well-spoken young lady. Regarding "experience" salvation vs. "thought-provoked" salvation, I side with Bethel's comment regarding the mystery of how God deals with each of us. Beckett needed God to get his attention in a big way. Others follow God their entire lives without what one might say is a supernatural experience. But our passion for our Savior is no different! All true Christians love the Lord and are growing in knowledge and faith. God is mysterious and varied enough to accommodate all of our needs and fulfill all desires, in Him!
Precisely, Renee. That's what I'm saying too. One way to be saved, but salvation experiences are many.
Wow Becket! Your English accent is impressive:) This was an awesome interview, really enjoyed your guest! I know many Christians are praying for Jordan P. to accept Christ!!
Just noticed this is your 100th episode. Congrats Beckett!
Thank you.God Bless
I agree...revelation from the Holy Spirit is fundamental to really believe and be born again.
Am a fan of both you and Chynna and was delighted to see you mention JP! Sharing the same city, at one time, as JP, several years ago, before he became the phenom he is now, I had the privilege of interviewing him at his home here in Toronto, about a documentary I was thinking about doing and wanted him to be a part of it. The topic was on the simple little subject, of Truth 🥴😳🥴- what was I thinking!!!!!???? He was very gracious to me even though the doc wasn't fully formulated in my mind. I ended up sharing my story of how I came to Christ, also supernaturally, and began praying for him from that point. Two years after that, all hell broke loose against him at UofT propelling him into the limelight, shortly after that.
Not saying at all that what had happened to him was due to my prayers, but wanted to make the point that with all that did happen to him, I no longer needed to give any further thought about my passion at the time, of addressing what seemed like an error in people's thinking when it came to looking at life truthfully - all that JP is and was about at that time. Since then, he has certainly lived out that analysis of the Truth, which I thought I wanted do through my, what now seems, silly documentary.
I really enjoyed watching your interview with Bethel and just wanted to say that I totally agree with you Becket, about coming to faith involving some sort of revelation to ignite the human spirit into awareness that we even have a spirit, as well as that conviction that can only come through the Holy Spirit! It doesn't have to translate into being an emotional experience as it was with you Becket, but ultimately it is a circumcision of the heart that suddenly recognizes that there is a new perspective on what we thought was real. Maybe it all starts with a spirit of humility?
JP has humility in spades, at least on the outside, but ultimately it's only the Holy Spirit who can best judge that. Just wanted to say that as I think about how close he appears to be to taking that leap of faith, his situation reminds me of when we see file after file after file, to infinitude, on a computer screen. It is a picture of where people like him get taken by intellectualism. I'm not one who thinks that when we come to faith that we leave our intellects at the door and I'm so grateful for your intellectual commentary on things cultural - you add so much to the cultural discussion, which is sorely needed within the Christian community.
But I'm drawn to what Paul wrote about strongholds. I think being caught in the trap of trusting only that which can be explained or reasoned, is as much of a stronghold upon a soul as any kind of sin, habit or addiction. Intellectualism, although it appears as highly advantageous and contributes a lot to human thought, can lead to us cutting out the spiritual part of our humanity. We've all been groomed by our society to prize the intellect and devalue things of the S/spirit. However, isn't it interesting that we live in a time where many are "identifying" as "spiritual but not religious" despite all this silent grooming?
Probably, like many, my heart broke when I saw Jordan speaking and weeping about his struggle to accept the notion of the kind of role that this Jesus could possibly take in his life, yet he couldn't make that aforementioned "leap." As I watched that heart-wrenching interview, I could feel how trapped he was in the intellectual matrix and had no way to get out of it, despite his accumulated wisdom, knowledge and psychological understanding of the human condition. I couldn't help but feel his intellectual pain.
I'm glad you made the point about coming to faith being more than just making an 'ascent' to faith. You were right in saying that it is more than that. If that's all it was, I think JP would have made that ascent by now. He needs what you had, which is revelation of the Holy Spirit, who, as a person in the Godhead, will reveal to him everything that is in his own heart.
Maybe it's time we stop making "ascent" for things of the intellect only, as that is only half of what we are as human beings. Through your rigorous questioning, while acknowledging that every soul's true home belongs in the spiritual realm, you bring both intellectual and spiritual integrity into this wired world. People in and out of the church, no longer have to be embarrassed by mention of things belonging to the spiritual realm.
All of these well-known agnostics/atheists from Peterson, Murray and Harris, desperately need the prayers, whether they realize it or not, of those of us who unabashedly live in the spiritual realm under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Because we are talking an actual realm, it really does come down to making a leap beyond the intellect, not in denial of it, which might just only be paved through the prayers of others.
Sorry to be so long-winded here, but this show provoked me into wandering if we might be on the cusp of thinking in yet another new way. As usual Becket, another great show!
Two things I would like to mention. Psychologist
are not specializing in SCRIPTURE in fact they are "replacing" making the patient feel confident. Jesus teaches humility no matter your interlect. I think MR. Peterson is doing a great SERVICE considering what he was TAUGHT.
such a great conversation you guys ❤ Thank you for all your work! All your insight! Grateful 🙏🏼
I think he was very popular as a university profesor for 30 ys. His students were always m much helped by this course, were very enthusiastic about his lectures. He had everything in the internet! Those lectures were quite polished through 30 years practice. He read a book per day since he was little.
Happy Thanksgiving from Colombia. I am glad to be one of your almost 70 K subscribers, Becket!.
Beckett it was amazing you were able to share a snippet of your story with him!!!
What a great episode!! Thank you for having such an intelligent, well-spoken woman on. If church were this informative, I’d think about going more. Churches usually are too busy chewing on milk and it was great to get a big dose of meat to chew on tonight. God bless!
Happy Thanksgiving! Jordan Peterson’s daughter is a very outspoken Christian now. I don’t really have any doubt that Jordan Peterson is a Christian either. He has experienced repentance and remorse. He tears up every time he talks about Jesus.
I agree with Becket. I was brought up with a father who had lost his faith owing to higher criticism of the Bible and that affected me. I was very science minded. Apologetics could get me so far, but I needed a direct experience of God's presence to get me over the hump. And why not? The first commandment according to Jesus is to love God, which is a relationship thing. It's about relationship more than theology or ritual - important as they can be. So like many others I persistently prayed, "God I don't believe you are real, but if you are please show me." During 9 months the sense of His presence was so consistent that I had to accept He had answered my prayer and the rest is history. That was 50 years ago and He has done so may amazing things since then.
Such an intelligent and interesting discussion. With so much respect. I really really appreciate this!
I'm thankful for your ministry, Beckett! Great interview once again. The pressing question of moralism is, "Says who?" Why is evil, evil, and good, good? Says who? Jordan teaches "some truth." The concern is that he may mislead people away from Jesus and the truth found in him. Let us pray for his eyes to be opened. Jesus said, "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day" Jn 6:44.
exactly,you are right! I agree: Jordan teaches "some truth." The concern is that he may mislead people away from Jesus and the truth found in him....I even hear someone say he is the best preacher in the world, I am sad
Right, and I've seen many celebrating what appears to them to be Peterson coming to the truth as he goes through the Bible. Hopefully he does repent and surrender to Jesus but my concern is what I've seen so far reveals nothing much really seens to have changed about how he approaches scripture but I guess time will tell. I really wish folks that admire him but don't believe would not hang onto to his every word but instead seek after God themselves.
I have explained it this way. As humans we are constantly at crossroads in our lives or may better described as a room with two doors leading out of it. One door leads closer to God. The other further away. As people make choices to move away from God the doors in that direction often get larger and easier to pass through. The further one goes down the path the more desperate one must become to find his way back to God. On the otherhand as people choose to take steps toward God the doors become more and more inviting towards him. Thanks be to God that he is a “whosoever will God” and truly wants all to come to him. And so as long as there is breath one can still be drawn to Him. It is my prayer that Peterson and others like him ultimately are drawn to God and find the peace and joy they so obviously want.
Becket I very much enjoy you podcasts and your testimony. Keep up the good work.
This is fantastic. Wonderful guest. Thanks guys!
Thank you for standing for the true gospel.
What an amazing conversation between you both! Great show!!!
Happy Thanksgiving! I am thankful for YOU, Becket. May God bless you and help you to continue being a beacon of light in the Hollywood community. ⭐
I love this discussion; thank you both!! You are awesome Christian models for us!
yeah it was a fun discussion for sure
Wow, this was interesting. I agree with what you are saying Becket around the 50 timestamp mark. The Holy Spirit definitely need to draw us and do a work in our hearts. Maybe it's the difference between head knowledge and experiencing a touch from God in our hearts. The other thing I want to point out and maybe it's obvious because apparently I state the obvious a lot is that Jordan seems to be interpreting the scriptures as a metaphor or archetype. I don't know if he actually believes in the historical facts of the Bible. As I am learning how to properly interpret the scriptures I was told not to read meaning into the text. There are prescriptive text and descriptive text. Oh, this is interesting as I was the last few minutes which I didn't yesterday. It seems Becket and Bethel do have differing opinions regarding how a person is saved. I am leaning more towards only by the grace and mercy of God is anyone saved. God saved Paul. I know this gets very deep and debate-able. Anyway, praise God if you are saved. That is what I will reflect on today!
Thanks!
Do you think Jordan Peterson hasn’t yet quite crossed the line into salvation, but he may be headed that way? If so, we need to pray for him.
Thank you. God Bless
I have been praying for Jordan Peterson’s salvation. May he be convicted of sin, of righteousness, and of judgement. 🙏🏻 May he accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
I love watching this channel. Beckettt is such an amazing interviewer.. he is so respectful to the amazing guests on his show ane doesnt interupt th.em
I think he's drawing closer toward Christ, but he's not born again yet.
Drawing closer to Christ while using his name as a curse word.
And when it happens , we will all know.
Jordan Peterson has been so close for so long. I pray JP has an encounter with God and his eyes are opened in Jesus name!
Thank you for doing this today. I’m watching this whilst I do the TG dinner dishes.
Just found you through melissas channel now listening to you as I clean each day Thankyou for all you content🙏❤️
Will be praying for God to fill Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray with His Holy Spirit.🙏❤️
I’m so glad to hear your thoughts on this… I’ve had the very same musings and definitely praying for JP !
I adore JP. He’s principled and was willing to suffer for it, so he already has experience with the suffering part…as for what it would take for him to get there…some people are hit with a lighting bolt, others are wooed with whispers…interesting ‘whosoever will’ v. TULIP🌷-esque exchange there at the end. Be blessed.✨
Totally enlightening conversation between two strong Christians about something I was curious about. Thank you.
I love Jordan Peterson and I truly appreciate his work. He is contributing to the good of society, especially in these days, where so many turned their backs to God and lost their way.
Peterson was a key person for me to get an interest in the Bible. God was already working in me on that, and Peterson helped with his Genesis lectures. He helped me start to see that the Bible is relevant and grounded in reality. But then, after getting deeper into Scripture and know who God really is (and not who I thought He was), Peterson’s lectures on God started to feel superficial and even, pardon me, somewhat childish. There’s a stumbling block in his spiritual journey. Part of it, I think, it’s his intellect. Which is ironic... because his intellect and style of thinking is what made him relevant and popular. If He opens his heart to accept God as a personal God, much of his world and ways of thinking will collapse. He will have to change, and that can be a scary thing. But it’s absolutely worth it, of course... I pray that Jordan Peterson finds God one day. 🙏🏻 That he comes to know Jesus, the Perfect Man-God, that I know he already admires and appreciates so much, even if only on an intellectual level.
Yes, I agree。 Christian inclinations are not enough, life will change only if you give yourself completely to God. So I believe that for Dr. Jordan, this may be a long way to go, may God bless him
So glad to find this video!! I've been praying for Dr. Peterson! Let's be reminded to be even more vigilant in our prayers.
Lord, bring JP to the knowledge of Jesus Christ!!
Wow, I knew of Bethel through Facebook and her music here on TH-cam but this is the first interview kind of thing I've seen her do. I greatly admire both her parents and love the content they've been producing. I look forward to seeing more content like this from Bethel as well. 😁
I feel like Dr. Peterson is being diminished here. Even though he is not a believer he encourages people to go to church and be godly. He believes there’s no better way to life than the Christian belief. He made an interview in the Joe Rogan podcast and he said in that interview: “The Bible is the precondition for truth.” So, I know he is not Christian but he is helping a lot of people to go back to church and believes wholeheartedly that our whole western culture has as its base in the word of God. Thus, I like him and respect him a lot.
I agree. So much negativity. Why are so many Christians focused on being right rather than being like Jesus?
This interview was such an accurate study of Jordan Peterson's view of Christianity! I felt he had some reverence towards Christianity but hadn't understood the full gospel.
God reaches each of us in the way we need to be. He definitely loves variety as we are each so unique. Even cuttlefish each have a different personality. From a "Road to Damascus" to the very subtle. The only thing that doesn't change is that Christ is the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but by him.
I have come to same conclusion as I was very interested in him and rise to notoriety- I at first worried that he was offering something that would be a counterfeit to real conversion and relationship with Christ. While this may be an issue with the many followers he has - I can see he is so close and an honest sincere person and pray for him to be pushed across the threshold. I pray for those that follow him that they can take one step further as well that nothing in this life is sustainable without His power.
OH! Happy 100th episode!!! 🎉🎉 you need a celebration 😊
I'm strongly with Bethel's position that "assent" is necessary and sufficient to any person's decision to embrace the Christian faith. Becket's insistence on (the happenstance of) an individual phenomenal encounter with Jesus is, in my view a conceit. Yes, many are fortunate to have such definitive, instantaneous, life-changing experiences but this is by no means common to everyone. Many are the roads to conversion and I for one appreciate Dr. McGrew's measured and realistic stance.
I so really ENJOYED listening to your all's conversation. Thanks so much. Bless your Thanksgiving Holidays.
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING TO HAVE JORDAN PETERSON ON YOUR SHOW!!🌟🌟
I listen to JP but not his biblical lectures. As you said, not quite there and I want no confusion. I do love him I think he's very genuine and caring
I so hope Jordan comes on your show!!! That would be epic!!!!😃❤️🔥
⏩ *Beckett, contact Jordan's daughter Mikhaila Petersen.* She produces his show. In fact, *she has been on her own journey to Christ.* You should have her on your show too!
(I also could totally see you on her show. She interviews a lot of Christians on the journey. They would absolutely LOVE you!)
I agree with Becket...There are times when people need God to reach them in a special way to get their attention...Only he knows how to do this- He knows everyone's heart and how to reach them...and it's up to that person to accept his calling.
This was a brilliant discussion - all the things that have been on my mind regarding Peterson and Fry. Thank you!
Who is a Christian and doesn't admit it? 🤷♀
A non Christian
I agree 💯 👍
Well… even Peter denied him 3 times.
That was a question in my mind and received the answer through this video. Thank you Lord.❤
…so I stopped to make my comment just short of the last few minutes of this interview. I listened on and you mentioned the ‘Hound of Heaven’ YES!!
Smiling, so tracking with you. Meeting JP that evening was God’s providence.❤
Becket, I am obsessed with your show. You are sooo kind and compassionate. I would love you to tell your story on Relevant Radio on the Patrick Madrid show!
Yes Becket we should pray for Jordan - he’s so close yet so far ❤️
I would say a very good description of where JP is in his walk...right now he is being taken on by the Ontario College , and may lose is degree in Psychology ...we need to pray that these issues may break his heart and allow him to realize he needs Christ ...before they break his mind. We all need to pray for him !!!!
Thanks for having this talk! Good thoughts. Also appreciate how you were both respectful in having different soteriological beliefs, ie, Calvinism vs. Non-Calvinism.
I pray he hears the truth and meets the One who loves him!
I'm a fan of Mr. Peterson!! I'm commenting before I watch so can't wait to hear this. I also like his round table talk on Exodus he's doing over on the Daily wire. I was listening to a song today Becket and you popped in my mind. I dont know if you know someone who needs to hear it , so I'm asking you to listen to it and do with it what you will. It's Zach Williams' song , " Heart of God." Thank you, and God Bless.
If you've seen him speak with Johnathan Pageau, you'll see him break down when talking about believing in Christ. It's powerful and maybe you should look at that interview, Becket.
I'm a Canadian who grew up in the United Church and, yup, you hit the nail on the head in your description of the United Church of Canada, Bethel McGrew. The theology there is definitely 'squishy'.
i really enjoyed the little debate becket and bethel had at the end about God actively reaching out to people vs people opening up their hearts and reaching out for God. Such an interesting conversation and i kept pausing to think out what i would say if i were there haha. God did not reach out and grab me, I first believed through apologetics (and growing up in the church), but when I believed, I did not have saving faith until years later. God was very patient with me and slowly opened my heart through prayer and reading of his Word upon going to a very Bible-centric church. So God is very active and his Spirit does reach out to all of us in a way, but I also think that people really do need to humble themselves and seek God. I also strongly think that there is enough evidence to intellectually believe even without a supernatural or spiritual experience. But this belief can be stagnant and never become true faith if you don't humble yourself, realize your sins, and if God never opens your eyes to these things. I praise God for saving me. It is Him alone who receives the glory, but that is not to say that we don't have any responsibility or any agency to seek Him. It is different for everyone though, Becket, like Paul, was blessed with such a sudden and powerful conversion story. But ALL of our conversion stories are so wonderful.
I accepted Jesus as a child when I was not looking for Him, so I believe He "reached out" to me because of His mercy. He knew that I would desperately need Him early on in life. I believe God chooses us before we choose Him. I find it fascinating that some choose Him and others reject Him.
- I just discovered your channel and am listening to different episodes and I so enjoy each topic. I also attended his Friday, Nov 11, 2022 event at the You Tube Theater here in Southern California. 👍🏼
I am praying for JP. The fact that his wife and daughter say they are now christian is huge. I will be so happy when I hear JP say the same❤
I had no idea about some of the topics you were taking about - but you make it so simple - listened to the whole conversation! 😊