I finished reading Letter to the American Church last night as I went to sleep. During the night I dreamed about 2 Samuel 20 so I looked it up when I awoke. It is the story of a wise woman who took a stand to save her city from destruction. I will not remain silent. Thank you for awakening my consciousness to the fact that I CAN make a difference, even though I’m in my 60s.
Michelledonders, I feel the same way. I no longer want to be silent. I pray for the courage to stand and speak up against the burgeoning evil all around us! 🙏🏼
I just read 2 Samuel 20 today. She also threw the head of Sheba over the wall! There is currently a certain leader who needs to be removed. (I am not saying do the same)!! He is destroying this country.
I find myself having to speak the Truth, about "politically correct" mind bending, (example: saying "them" when speaking about one person, in order not to use the male "him" as has been done in the English language. WE ARE DESTROYING THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WITH SUCH RIDICULOUS PHRASES!!! Other languages have the Neutral part of speech, "IT" when speaking about a child, for instance. No need to identify gender, just a child, where IT is a general way to express the point). I have written about the self sacrifice required, in order for all of us to "do our little part" towards cleaner air, by NOT, using a drive-by window at a business, which often becomes a long line of cars around the building, all expelling gas exhaust, when it would be better to "PARK & WALK". I have been insulted for speaking up, but I know I need to try to get others to see the reasoning behind what I say or write.
Well done Michelle..... YET ..... Until you find a MAN OF GOD or unless YOUR FATHER WAS A MAN OF GOD and passed down the spirit to you, unless one of the above examples is TRUTH Then, 👿 SATAN WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR DADDY 😈 As Satan works through the woman ~ through the Feminine! I wish you all the best, I wish you 🍃🙏 GOD 🙏🍃 Good bye Michelle!
Thank you both! I stood alone in my school speaking and DOING what was true and good for the children against such oppression. The slander and bullying by the administration was beyond anything i could have imagined. These men are correct. I didn’t compromise and paid a price as some will always believe the slanderous statements. But I can promise that I have peace when I lay my head down on my pillow and I KNOW my God is forever with me and directing my path. This isn’t my “real” home and we aren’t promised an easy life when following Christ but the inner joy and peace He gives will sustain until I am home with Him!!
Yes yes yes! Stand strong and proud even in the strongest of storms. We are not of this world but if we don’t each and everyone of us stand up for the future generations we are really shameful. We MUST push back right now or these minority ideologies will be like a fish swallowing a whale. And the whale letting it happen without fight back against such an absurdity.
@LaymanScribe😊 … we are all living the scriptural lessons in real time🔥 the time for deadwood thinking is finished and now well and truly ablaze and the refining of the Word has begun. We are all called to “hold the door open for the truth” With Christ, it’s gentle, without… the man-made “fear” some make and perpetuate (advertent/ inadvertent) just keeps building. If we determine to stop being caught up in it, the Holy Spirit within gently let’s us see….the truth … We have a choice, Jesus always gives us the choice. “If” … by Rudyard Kipling
Check out his psychological interpretations of the biblical series. Its mind blowing. The 12 rules for life was the first book I have ever read front to back as an adult. I'm half way through with 12 more rules. He's a very good teacher and im thankful to have been blessed by his wisdom.
You have a lot of catching up to do Maria 😅 What a remarkable man and hope you got a chance to see his daughter + her spectacular story 🫶 Watch her at Oxford’s debate 🔥🔥🔥 Be very well 🥳
The real peterson revolution lies in the playlists on his channel... maps of meaning, personality, and the psychological significance of the biblical stories
I love how many times they tell each other, "I never thought about it like that before." Goes to show how much we can learn from each other, into infinity!
One of the most important interviews of this decade. I hope people are beginning to understand how important it is that we all start speaking up to defend truth.
I’m reading Eric’s book “Letter to the American Church”. He puts our problem to words. The Church has gotten it wrong thinking all we need to do is preach the gospel and by all means never talk about political issues.
Jordan and Robert Kennedy together were DYNAMITE . people like Sergey Brin and Mark Zukerberg= they censor only our connections. congregation is important for them.they loose control in a case like that.
It was disappointing to see JBP not push back at all when it was clear he had disagreements with this guy... 🙄 I guess the power of audience capture is stronger than "telling the truth"... 😅
@@fahimp3 oh I thought he obviously pushed back! :) He questioned things often enough and gave his perspective. Eric just has a confident personality and is extremely smart. I think we aren't used to seeing many on the same intellectual level as Jordan. It evens the playing field a little more. It actually made it seem like an actual conversation vs lecture.
I had the privilege of having Eric come to my church and speak on a Sunday morning. What he is saying is true, our church stayed open and we doubled attendance during covid. Eric message is indispensable for the church and America right now.
You were blessed @sethwitte4128 to have a church open. Ours went gangho counting masking registering and i stayed home started a ladies prayer group and watched Jack Hibbs and MacArthur and Murillo all the way here in Europe.. thank God for internet
Our old church decided to "love their neighbor" by closing, then counting, distancing, required masking, and even photographing people so they could give the county a list in case someone got covid. We left, as did a huge number of members. We joined a church that probably doubled since covid. Our new church did close briefly but opened in the early summer and were back to normal without any requirements within 4 months. It wasn't covid that caused our family to leave after nearly two decades, but the theology behind the decisions made. The first church appeared to fear the world's opinion and sought to submit church worship to the government. The second believed God is sovereign and we obey Him, regardless of man's opinion.
This is just so brilliant! Thank you SO much Jordan for having Eric on your show. You are circling the wagons Jordan. You are so close to coming to the Truth. Your present problems with the College of Psychologists of Ontario is no accident. God is calling you. I just wish that I was half as smart as these two. God bless you both.
The faith-works controversy is so blasted unnecessary. Why have things been agonized over for so long? Obviously, God measures our inner intentions primarily.
I read Bonhoeffer over ten years ago, as a German national it left an indelible impression on me. Now, as a follower of Christ in this age it is even more poignant. Thank you both of you for speaking the truth as I see it, the church of America and of Europe (I live in the UK) needs to hear this!
His biography makes you realize that when evil arises a Christian has to decide who he really is and then decide what actions are the right ones according to God. Bonhoeffer’s dedication combined with those internal struggles challenged me. Would I have that kind of resolve? Only with Gods help.
The first time you were able and you had to do something about the situation you had with your mom was to tell me to come home because you didn’t have to go back home because I didn’t have to do that to her because I was not able and you were going home because I had a bad day so
You know that a podcast is GARBAGE, when the parties involved discussing religion, do not quote Bible at every statement uttered. -- People who are serious about TRUTH, should demand a "thus saith the Lord".
@@Desire_of_Ages if people were interested in truth, they wouldn't quote KJV English, but rather the original Hebrew. Shalom 🙏 In the name of Yeshua Hamashiach
@@Desire_of_Ages Yes, I only make sense to the literate. If you want to be involved in the translation of over 80 Hebrew texts, you can be taught the Hebrew and be part of this initiative.
“It has only taken me 40 years figure that out.” All of us must be in that mode, pursuing truth our entire life. Thank you to both of these great brave men who encourage us!
both are intellectuall, but stupid. well read, articluate, but living in perceptions and therefore deception. Some men desire women, some desire money, others desire god. They are all moving in the same phenomena of desire nonetheless.
@@saimbhat6243 I've been a Christian for many years and Jesus set me free from an alcohol addiction almost nine and a half years ago. What this podcast did for me was to encourage me to be braver in the face of secular/ woke indoctrination in the workplace and life in general. I've shared the worldview Jordan and Eric subscribe to long before I was aware of their existence.
Great interview. As a Christian I 100 percent agree with what Eric stated. A true Believer is not a coward and can see things from God’s perspective. We must speak out and know God will reward our obedience and His reward transcends the superficial rewards this world has.
The analogy that Jordan stated regarding the story of Cain and Abel was brilliant. I'm gonna have to re-read the story until it's very clear to me. The presentation was exceptional . The church needs to bring discussions like these to awaken Christians.
As a believer in Jesus Christ in Canada 🇨🇦 thank you from the bottom of my heart, Eric Mataxas, for writing Letter to the American Church. And for having Eric to talk about it, Jordan Peterson!
The intellectual prowess of these two, combined with their brutal honesty and moral wisdom is a refreshing reminder of what standing for truth in the service of love looks like.
I read Eric Metaxas' book. It is a must read. He fires the warning shots to Americans who stay silent or hide instead of taking a stand to save our country and our faith.
I have to agree with him about the ATHEIST MARXISTS wanting POWER and we are in the PRE-HITLERIAN period now. Let's all wake up to those fascists (FJB, TURDEAU, MACRON etc) around us!!
I got the book for my husband who was a pastor, but now does pro-life speaking full time. He loved it so much he bought it for both of our pastors. A must read!!!
I ordered Eric’s book last night. Coupled with the rise of Sound of Freedom, I think God is stirring His people to do much more than profess a theology.
With Chaos and darkness around the corner, God is calling his Sons and Daughters to arise and be the LIGHT in the Midst of darkness. Love God and Others, Heal the Sick and Make Disciples!
Maybe for those just waking up now, but some of us have been seeing the 'stirring' decades ago with the 'smart' tech, porn, contraception, planned barenhood, the shots, etc..... yes, people need to get off line and get working on their humility and perform ACTIONS.
@@eddiewalker7252 If you have the gift of healing. All believers in Jesus have different gifts from the Holy Spirit. But 💯 we are here to share the Gospel. The wonderful news of Jesus.
I want to point out how much I appreciate Jordan Peterson as an interview. These podcasts used to be hard to watch, because he would just interrupt constantly. He doesn't do that anymore, and he asks very poignant questions, and even allows guests to interrupt him. This was an exceptional episode, I loved hearing what Metaxas had to say.
They are very much alike in their interviewing habits. I've been so annoyed with both Metaxas and Peterson interrupting those they interview. And here I notice Metaxas interrupts Peterson! They're a good match!
Keep in mind he was an academic. A professor. Professors talk for the whole hour with nobody else talking. For him to transform and now be and interviewer with no training, he definitely learned these skills on the fly! Very impressive
Are you saying Jordan has gotten a handle on impulsively interrupting and inserting a ridiculously long comment or question? If so, that's good to hear. I stopped watching because it was frustrating to watch with Jordan interrupting. I hadn't given up though. I do check in. I definitely noticed that Jordan wasn't interrupting. But I actually thought this conversation was an exception because Metaxas is such a strong person he was able to stifle Jordan. I thoroughly enjoyed the interview.
It is a spiritual law If any one seeks Truth honestly from the heart Truth has to appear / be known … So Keep seeking and Truth will be found … The Holy Spirit will lead you to The Truth 🙏
I believe every church needs a copy of this book and every church leader needs to read, share and discuss this with believers everywhere. As for me, I’ll share a link to this podcast interview and pray it stays available on TH-cam. Thank you gentlemen!
You're not wrong. They do need to read it but they won't change. I'm certain of that. Cheap grace rules the majority of christian churches in the west.
I was happy to hear his testimony also. It's interesting to hear how God works in people's lives through there very personal experiences. I had a very similar experience with the Lord when He was drawing me to Himself. He used reason and someone else's dream about me. I also had the experience in reality of colors being brilliant after I was born again--like sunglasses were removed from my eyes. It happened after hearing the gospel about Jesus dying for my sin and being convicted of being a sinner while watching a TV evangelist. I repented and asked the Lord to forgive me thru tears of sorrow. Then it was as if a waterfall washed through my body from head to toes and a burden was lifted. I felt cleansed, joyful and light as a feather. I also immediately knew the Bible was God's Word and it was all true. It was like I was experiencing another dimension and God's presence just flooded me. I haven't been the same since that day in 1985. I found out later that Jesus said in the Bible that we must be born again--that's what it felt like--a spiritual birth. God is so amazing!!! Thank you, Jesus, for dying in my place. I can't express how grateful I am that you would die for me. I will always speak Your truth. Help me to always be courageous.
@@dianegarcia6562, ok. Heavenly Father, I pray you would begin to open Paul's eyes to the glorious message of the gospel. Lord Jesus, when you died on the cross, You showed us what a loving Savior you are. I pray Paul would see the love, compassion, sacrifice and suffering you endured that he might have his sins atoned for and receive eternal life. I pray Paul would open his heart to Your amazing grace and love. Amen
I am interested to know how much of Eric's discourse to your church was religious and how much political. If the latter predominated then I think that he has unwittingly perhaps done you a disservice.
When Eric asked Jordan, “what happens when you take a fish out of water?” I had chills. I keep thinking about everything he described in it. I was struck by all the layers of beautiful symbolism… and I’m sure there was more he had to say about it; coming through the water like a baptism. This is how God speaks to us.
"Our job is to fight. Our job is to fight, and to look to God for leadership and guidance, and the results are in His hands." This discussion is powerful.
both are intellectually stupid. well read, articluate, but living in perceptions and therefore deception. Some men desire women, some desire money, others desire god. They are all moving in the same phenomena of desire nonetheless.
I was struggling with my walk and I know the Lord put this interview in my feed. We have to keep fighting the good fight. Our Lord would have everyone saved, but we do have a choice. Thank you for posting this!
Eric Metaxes at his finest. Thank you J Peterson for giving him the platform. Your interviewing skill is topknotch resulting in consistently interesting and informative discussions. Always a joy to listen and learn
I wrote and rewrote this comment a dozen of times and still can't get it shorter than this. I am overly joyous/excited/thrilled after watching this video and for many many reasons too. One of them is that is extremely satisfying to listen to smart, intelligent, erudite, man whose hearts are in the right place. Man who love the truth, righteousness, justice, and above all GOD our creator. Another very important thing is the message and I need to tell you guys: It has been received. I was also struck by the Eric's testimony about how he came to Jesus. This is exactly what happened to me just a different dream. May I just say - Mr Peterson I appreciate how you pushed Eric to tell this story because in actuality this is our testimony/witness for the kingdom. I have also noticed that this theme keeps coming up over and over in Christian media. It confirms and encourages my believe that we have to take a stand and not be passive observers of what's going on around us. I learn to take responsibility for my own words and actions. Dear brothers and sisters in the faith, I want to leave you with this: if you do not find it in yourself - go to our Father in heaven. He is the one who will give you the change of heart. You can't do anything without Him. This is all H e wants - for you to seek Him, trust Him, obey Him. THE BATTLE BELONGS TO THE LORD. Choose who is your Lord today!
This is the most truthful podcast I have ever heard. Thank God for two real men willing to speak to the evil that is present in today's world! I pray that your words drive nails into the signs of satans hand in all this, posted for all to see and hear! I also pray that ears can hear and eyes can see.
One of my favorite interviews with two of the most fascinating people around! So happy it popped up in my TH-cam feed. I first saw "Letter to the America Church" by chance in the new book section at the library & immediately borrowed and read it. Eric wrote my favorite biography, "Amazing Grace: William Wilberforce and the Heroic Campaign to End Slavery" ... he's just a fabulous writer. Both Peterson and Metaxas are heroes of our time and important luminaries in a dark world. God bless them both.
This has been one of the most fascinating interviews! As a Christian, I am thankful for this discussion and I completely agree Eric Metaxas! We, as Christians MUST start standing up for what’s right and true! We have an obligation to stand up and if not, we will pay for our complacency!!
Don’t know why I’ve never heard this guy before. Few men, let alone Christians, have the intellectual ability to match wits with Peterson. So when Christians invest in the depth of truth & understanding like Jordan’s guest does here, this kind of discussion becomes intolerably sharp & affective like very few things in life can be. Thank both of you gentlemen for your time, attention, courage & commitment to the highest things in your lives! I speak for many when I say, we deeply appreciate you both!
Human intellect means nothing compared to godly wisdom. The Father didn't choose the greatest intellectuals of the 1st century to be apostles. I'd rather have godly wisdom and understanding than to have someone sing my praises about how someone isn't able to match wits with my intellect.
As a born again Christian myself, Eric's description of how he was filled with joy when Christ was revealed to him in his dream was the exact feeling I had when He revealed himself to me. I had a knowing, a knowing that it was Jesus' s voice I heard that told me He forgives me. And Erik mentioned the specialness of the colors that he saw in his dream. This is also something I experienced in that moment, I remember having the thought "I have never seen such a blue sky. I have never seen such green as the leaves in that tree!" It made me feel like I had been reborn, and so I was. Thank you to these start men using their gifts to bend the world towards eternal truths.
From South Africa, with not too many of the issues you guys face, I must say, the encouragement has blown my mind. I also enjoyed this podcast more than any other this year. I am Fired up and built up in my faith, which is NOT what I expected..thank you!
are living scriptural lessons in real time🔥 & the deadwood thinking is well and truly ablaze, the refining of the Word has begun. With Christ, it’s gentle, without… the man-made “fear” perpetuated (advertent/ inadvertent) just keeps building with crushing pressure. We have a choice, Jesus always gives us the choice. Keep gently building your faith trading in all that is not of Christ with Holy Spirit … if in doubt trade it all in for Spirit gentleness, kindness, goodness and patience - this is how to hold and grow faith with Spirit “If” … by Rudyard Kipling
Being Christian is far from anti-intellectual. BobThieme my pastor or mentor of my pastor Dr Glen Carnagey. Their depth and teaching marches ..on but ,the mediocre continues enmasse. Predicted about the lukewarm church, which I believe is now. Revelation. Ps lbj s gag order has nuch to do w the silence. Trump lifted it; I m sure obama..err bobo put it back.
I do too. Eric just needs to reign in a bit his urge to butt in when Jordan is in the middle of creating a sentence.......haha...but I truly respect both of them
This is a great episode, but it all must go back to the person of Christ. He founded one religion in the year, 33, ad. The same religion has persisted, and even gone underground to a degree. You can still find the places where the Catholic Church existed 2000 years ago. The writing show evidence of the same teachings and the same sacraments. This is why my wife’s family have always been St. Thomas Christians and their faith has never changed. But heresy cannot save you
The world owes a huge debt of gratitude to these two great men. Eric Metaxas through his podcast, has broadened my world with the many important guests he has on his show. I am eternally thankful for all of his hard work for God and country.🙏🏽🇺🇸❤️
There is no pursuit more noble than the pursuit of truth friend. For no virtue can exist before the virtue of truth. It is the truth alone that can set us free. Only actions informed by the real truth, are capable of cutting the shackles that bind and exploit us. Exploit us physically, intellectually, spiritually, and economically... Just wanted to say that I appreciate you and especially your name Truthseeker. Keep fighting the good fight, and be energized to know there are hundreds of thousands of us, almost certainly many millions of us fighting the same fight... They've done well to keep us from realizing we are the majority. But it really feels like the tide is starting to turn, and the sun beginning to rise on their dark lies, deceit, secrecy and coercion. We will win.
If churches hosted these conversations and spoke this way, I don't care what denomination, I would be there and I know a lot of other people would be too. The unexamined life may not be worth living but it sure is useful to be guided in that examination by thoughtful, courageous, reality-based leaders. Thank you for this episode!
Love love love listening to mature Christians debate.....if you are not yet a confessed Christian Mr Petersen, take the step. Bowing your knee to serve Jesus Christ is the best Brisbane Australia
Wow, I have read his Bonhoeffer biography, but I never knew what an intelligent, humorous man of faith Eric Metaxas was! A vitally important message he has as well! Thank you both for you this conversation!
I feel exactly what you say. I have become increasingly sensitive to how God is guiding me. I understand that we need to give your books to our pastors. I am involved in a movement in my county. We are trying to save our Country, and we need their help.
As a Canadian who recently discovered politics, I'm surprised at how ignorant most Canadians are (I was the same way before the pandemic so I cast no shade). We need to work towards keeping Canadians informed because it's getting worse daily, and I don't think we're aware of the dangerous effect of Justin Trudeaus rhetoric. He WANTS us to be divided and until people wake up it will just get worse.
Americans too. They're suppose to teach us how to run our own country in public school but instead we get this new religion of gender ideology ans race baiting bullshit making kids feel bad for qualities they have no choice in
Thanks to the LORD God, the creator of the universe and all that is in it has chosen and raised up some people for His good purpose of completing that Redemption in Jesus Christ. Thank God for Eric Metaxes, and Jordan Peterson, Clinical psychologist, who is searching and pondering over the TRUTH of human existence and meanings. So many are there with you. Continue with your quest, God will answer you as is His promise...
Amen. As an Italian living in the US, I find that this is an immensely important topic, as I’m shocked to realize what many people “think” christianity is about. Thank you for having this conversation. God bless you all.
Religion is down to an individuals interpretation and they can pick and choose parts to follow based on their own morals. It's always changing anyways....the popes change their mind with things all the time to keep up with modernization. Very interesting.
@@dazzat91yeah, the codified morality didn't proliferate and create the best societies on earth because people were picking and choosing. Why comment when you don't know anything
This podcast was by far the best podcast I’ve ever listened too. So rich in content, I listened to it 2x’s and gained new insight the 2nd listen. If the world could actually just stop, take the time to listen with open ears and a heart to hear, I’m convinced people would see for the first time in their life, Jesus is real, and He loves people so much. The culture is feeding us a slow drip of poison and the lies we are being told is killing us! Wake up! Shake off this spell, listen and learn. This podcast is the best place to start. Thank you Jordan for doing this interview with Eric. 2 brilliant minds.
Jordan, I always love hearing you laugh! Eric, thank you for making him chuckle a few times! Our souls need laughter through these crazy, challenged times. Love listening to the words of wisdom you both exude. We need to stand tall for what we believe in and stop allowing others to change our values and commitments to God.
I'm in tears this was nothing but the Holy Spirit at work! Can't wait to celebrate in heaven with y'all! I may sound presumptuous but y'all will see how much God worked through y'all thank you so much!!! God is so good. I can't even explain I'm in tears ❤
@darthbigred22 he is certainly a man of faith on his way to diving in fully. It's not that black and white. There are many who profess to be Christians, profess to be saved, and they live wreched lives of lies. I don't think it's the golden metric. As least not as black and white as it may seem.
I'm an Australian and been standing against many of these issue's since 2000. I got saved in 1983, and experienced many things in churches, but in 1997 God took me aside to a place where He could pull me up.
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Also congratulations on the way most of Africa handled the Covid-19 pandemic and didn't fall prey to the hysteria, greedy & unethical medical treatment like we did in North America. Very impressive outcomes were acheived in Africa without the "vaccine". Stay safe =)
I respect and love Peterson too, but I feel like more of his fans comments should also at least gives the interlocuters credits as well as praises. It's a collective, mutual efforts and projects afterall
We need to start broaching all the 'unbroachable' subjects right now! The things that are not discussed out in the open are the subjects that will only fester and become open sores later in society! Do not let the people in charge 'limit' our speech! Free speech is freedom!
I have one such subject. Women shouldn't vote and the unprecedented move in human history to give women the same provileges and power as men, have been catastrophic for the human race, how's that for a subject ?
@@danxdanx8877 While I don’t completely agree, it does make sense to require people who want to vote show a minimum level of understanding of how government functions. But that would open a big can of worms.
@@danxdanx8877and yet women in politics as President/Prime Ministers and in politics have generally proven their capabilities beyond their male counterparts …
Brilliant conversation. Two men who are sharing my heart with the world. God save America. Bring us back to our Christian roots and foreword in your plans that we be a light to the world because we carry you in us. God bless you both.
Thank you Gentlemen for giving voice to the Spirit of God and to His people. I knew we were in a silent war a few months into cv19 and began praying like mad for my family and all families i knew, and families all over the world because i could see how high the stakes were. Now, i perceive God is on the way to all our rescue because we've been holding the line these many dark days. I love you guys. My husband is also an intellectual, but he and i have many challenging differences in points of view - both believers in the Messiah of Israel. Pray for us!
@@paulnobody2826, she said her husband was a believer in the Messiah. Sounds like they may have other differences, but, hopefully not essential doctrine of biblical Christianity.
This is one the best and most important interviews in independent media and a salutary lesson to all viewers. Stand up and be counted, all. Thanks Jordan and Eric, wonderful in the truest sense of the word.
I thought Metaxas's book about Bonhoeffer was so eye-opening. The parallels he makes about the silence of the Church today with it's silence during the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s is true. The Bonhoeffer book sparked me to reclaim the family's long lost heritage of Judaism. Thank-you, Mr. Metaxas.
Bonhoeffer was a wonderful example of someone whose message lived on in the face of his tyrannical murderers. Those monsters are alive in Washington at present.
The Pope Pius XII, the Pope at the time, did speak out, in fact he was honored by a Jewish rabbi’s for doing so. Many Catholics saved Jews. It was a difficult time as the Church was being persecuted and many Christians were martyred, too, a fact that isn’t usually talked about. Thousands of clergy were killed by the Nazis. The Pope was an unrelenting opponent of the new German “ideals”-even writing an entire encyclical, ‘Mit Brennender Sorge’ (1937), to condemn them. He widely condemned them before he became pope, and after. When Pius XI died in 1939, the Nazis abhorred the prospect that Pacelli, Pope Pius XII, might be elected his successor because he had been so outspoken against them. The Pope secretly worked to save as many Jewish lives as possible from the Nazis, whose extermination campaign began its most intense phase only after the War had started. The negative consequences of speaking out strongly were only too well known. “In one tragic instance, the Archbishop of Utrecht was warned by the Nazis not to protest the deportation of Dutch Jews. He spoke out anyway and in retaliation the Catholic Jews of Holland were sent to their death. One of them was the Carmelite philosopher, Edith Stein. While the U.S., Great Britain, and other countries often refused to allow Jewish refugees to immigrate during the war, the Vatican was issuing tens of thousands of false documents to allow Jews to pass secretly as Christians so they could escape the Nazis. What is more, the financial aid Pius XII helped provide the Jews was very real. Lichten, Lapide, and other Jewish chroniclers record those funds as being in the millions of dollars-dollars even more valuable then than they are now. “In his memoirs, the then Chief Rabbi Zolli of Rome writes that he was sent to the Vatican, where arrangements had already been made to receive him as an ‘engineer’ called to survey a construction problem so that the Gestapo on watch at the Vatican would not bar his entry. He was met by the Vatican treasurer and secretary of state, who told him that the Holy Father himself had given orders for the deficit to be filled with gold vessels taken from the Treasury.” Thousands of Jews were shelter by the Vatican, monasteries, churches, and even the Pope’s summer home. His success in protecting Italian Jews against the Nazis was remarkable. Lichten records that after the War was over it was determined that only 8,000 Jews were taken from Italy by the Nazis -far less than in other European countries. In June,1944, Pius XII sent a telegram to Admiral Miklos Horthy, the ruler of Hungary, and was able to halt the planned deportation of 800,000 Jews from that country. The Pope’s efforts did not go unrecognized by Jewish authorities, even during the War. The Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem, Isaac Herzog, sent the Pope a personal message of thanks on February 28, 1944, in which he said: “The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness and his illustrious delegates, inspired by the eternal principles of religion which form the very foundations of true civilization, are doing for us unfortunate brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history, which is living proof of divine Providence in this world.” After the war, Rabbi Zolli became a Catholic and, to honor the Pope for what he had done for the Jews and the role he had played in Zolli’s conversion, took the name “Eugenio”-the Pope’s given name-as his own baptismal name. Zolli stressed that his conversion was for theological reasons, which was certainly true, but the fact that the Pope had worked so hard on behalf of the Jews no doubt played a role in inspiring him to look at the truths of Christianity. Excerpts from Catholic Answers. Because of the lies that were spread at the time, not many people heard about what the Catholic Church did for the Jews, but now much of it has come out. I am proud that my Church was so outspoken an and saved so many. I am sure there are Protestant Christians that saved Jews, too, but you couldn’t toot your horn loudly at the time the Jews were being killed, or they wouldn’t have saved any. Besides, a good Christian wouldn’t draw attention to himself, anyway, just work secretly.
@@davidm1149Yes, they are the same. It’s the same communist ideals that Russia has spread. The Blessed Mother Mary appeared to 3 peasant children in a Portugal in 1917. She told them the war would soon end, but if the people didn’t turn back to God and pray the Rosary for peace, another worse war would happen. Of course, it did. She also said if Russia wasn’t consecrated to her Immaculate Heart, that Russia would spread its errors through the world. That has obviously happened, too. It’s time to pray the Rosary for peace, before it’s really too late!
I enjoyed every second, every word of Mr Metaxas regarding Faith and the Works we as believers in Christ ought to do in this world. The way of Christ is Cross and if as a Christian we have other plans/ideas we are lying to ourselves. Thank you Dr Peterson for living courageously more than we who claim following Christ. I pray that God always bless you with his grace. ✝️🙏❤️🇨🇦
I"m going over to the Daily Wire for the rest of it... I sincerely pray this stays up on youtube... And I sincerely pray for God to make himself even more real to Dr. Peterson than he may have already. Thanks for having this discussion with Eric, he's a genius in his own right.
Jordan, I completely love that you are so brilliant and thorough in preparing for your interviews. This interview with Eric and also with Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel is so helpful in helping expose truth! Keep going! You are making a huge difference! We love your courage.
Two of my favourite online ideas explorers talking together. I love the way they both disregard "the boundaries". Since they could both talk underwater it's great they could make it work. One of the sparkiest most energetic conversations I've heard. Many thanks to everyone who made it happen
Yea I agree and expose lies and wickedness wherever we find it right? People stay silent through fear of labelling grass or intimidation. Those need our help to speak for them and encourage them to be brave and speak up and Do the right thing.
Brilliant conversation. The depth of understanding that these two men have on the conversation subject is fascinating. I appreciate the humor mixed in as well.
Eric, your explanation of the relationship and definition of faith and works was on point! So thankful for the clarity of your Christian voice on the world’s stage.
I agree, but he was a bit hard on Luther. One thing Luther was trying to advance was the grace of God which is available for those who do put their trust in Christ for their own salvation. This was on the heels of the Roman church who at that time was laden with corruption e.g. selling indulgences to people who want to get a relative or friend released from purgatory, et al. There is no doubt that there are tepid people in every denomination, but that will change, I hope & pray.
The problem with Eric is that he promotes a false gospel. If we're relying on our works or our actions (which are subjective because he can't say how many works are needed) for salvation then he will never have a perfect assurance of salvation. It's a religion. If you ask any religious person "Do you believe you're going to Heaven?" They will answer "I hope so. I hope I have done enough good works or have been good enough." This is not the Gospel of Jesus. John 6 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.” What is the Will of the Father? "that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life" Where is the requirement of our works? It doesn't exist. John 5 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. Today's Christianity mixes salvation with service which makes it a religion. Salvation is the moment you put your trust in Jesus to save you. "To Repent" is Metanoia - a Change of Mind. The Jews trusted in the Law, we trust in our good works, Jesus says change your mind stop trusting in yourself and trust Him to save you. Does that mean we can sin freely? Yes and No. Hades and Eternal Hell are off the table when we are Born Again so in this case yes. However, being Born Again by faith in Jesus means we are now a Child of GOD. John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: Galatians 3 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Even though Hades and Hell are off the table, as the LORD's Children our sin is not ignored. Hebrews 12 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.” 7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? When a mother has a child whether it's Jesus or Hitler that child is hers. There is nothing that can erase the fact that they are their parent's child. When we are Born Again we become Children of GOD. Nothing can alter this fact. However, as a good parent when we willingly rebel the LORD will chasten us. If I cheat on my wife just because I am Born Again doesn't mean I am immune to the damage of my choices; my sin. James 2 isn't about salvation it's about the "profitability" of my faith. 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. If I don't live out my faith I'm still saved. However, it doesn't do anyone any good in finding Jesus if I am not living out my faith. That's what James 2 is about. Salvation- Believe in Jesus and you will be saved. Forever. Done. Sealed. You've passed from death to life. Service- a choice to express the gratitude you have for the gift of salvation. This does not save you, keep you saved or prove you are saved. The Lost do good works all the time. Discipleship- a decision to dedicate your life to Jesus through ministry. I pray that we can learn to rightly divide God's Word and not mix salvation with service and discipleship to make Jesus into a religion. That's what the Pharisees did with Scripture. Hope this helps. Take care.
@@scottmckenna9164 A well written Biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas that explains History that informs and inspires men of a selfless person like Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
I’ve been struggling with the silence of the church. No one could answer my questions. This book confirmed, biblically, everything I’ve been thinking about. Thank you so much!!It is my passion to speak up.
You need to understand that Muslims, Buddhists ect believe just as strongly about their faith as you or I do as a Christian. It's true to you and me, but we can't prove any of it, just like they can't. That's why it's faith. And they are just as free to believe what they do as you or I. To call one the only true religion is absurd. It can't be proven.
@@mikebowman5819here is only One True God. Allah and Budda did not rise from the dead, Jesus did. It's time to take a stand in what we believe as Christians and act on our faith.
@@PAULHPOWERS1 yes, we believe that He did. I also believe that I can't earn salvation and it was an accepted gift so taking any type of moral supremacy over anyone or any faith is filthy rags. If "acting" on faith is what conservatives do, count me out.
@@mikebowman5819 I drowned and died 55 years ago July 14 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Dr. Munson told my parents I was gone and not to build up their hope. When the young man who pulled me from the water suggested prayer, Dr. Munson sharply reacted, "I don't believe in prayer! My parents were missionaries in China, and all I ever got was abuse in boarding school. I don't believe in it!" Dad dropped to his knees on the Sandpoint Hospital Emergency Room floor and committed me to God's hands, closing, "God, You can bring him back, and it's all right if You don't. Would You please bring him back? In Jesus' name, amen." Just then my monitors' flatline jerked to life! Erratic, but now there was movement. Fifty miles down in Spokane, Washington, Surgical Nursing Professor Ruth Olson felt an urge to go up to Sandpoint and took the bus. One look at me in the hospital -- blue from lack of oxygen, and she told my mother, a Nursing student of hers 30 years before, "Get him down to Deaconess Hospital, or you're going to lose him!" They'd already lost me! Anyway, I'm living on 55 years of borrowed time. If I didn't revive at the name of Jesus, I died 55 years ago, and this text doesn't exist. So some think I died 55 years ago, but that wasn't the end of my story. (I had a college Japanese prayer partner. Nothing unusual there till he became, to my shock, a Christian.)
I could have sat there and listened to both of you forever..God bless you dear brothers, for being voices in the wilderness. special thanks goes to you Jordan for being a thorn in the side of the evil.
I've listened to this 3X now and i have a feeling I will listen to it at least 3 more. This discussion is so earnest, necessary and completely refreshing ❤ thank you.
It is truly a blessing to witness two redeemed intellects-Jordan Peterson and Eric Metaxas-express their beliefs with such courage and conviction. Their discussion inspires many in a unique and profound way.
Highly appreciate Dr. Peterson’s humour and how he genuinely reacts to jokes. The way the discussion goes is very much interesting. Thank you for doing this
Nothing less than the salvation of every human being, the reconciliation of them with each other, and the restoration of their original goodness, created in the divine image, can justify the sufferings and sadness that fill human history. Nothing less can vindicate the love and goodness of God. I am convinced of this. All will be made well. All.
This discussion is huge. I can’t recommend it highly enough. Pass this along to everyone you know and love. Pray they have ears to hear and eyes to see the importance of Eric’s premise here. Do it. Do it now.
I finished reading Letter to the American Church last night as I went to sleep. During the night I dreamed about 2 Samuel 20 so I looked it up when I awoke. It is the story of a wise woman who took a stand to save her city from destruction. I will not remain silent. Thank you for awakening my consciousness to the fact that I CAN make a difference, even though I’m in my 60s.
Michelledonders, I feel the same way. I no longer want to be silent. I pray for the courage to stand and speak up against the burgeoning evil all around us! 🙏🏼
I just read 2 Samuel 20 today. She also threw the head of Sheba over the wall! There is currently a certain leader who needs to be removed. (I am not saying do the same)!! He is destroying this country.
I find myself having to speak the Truth, about "politically correct" mind bending, (example: saying "them" when speaking about one person, in order not to use the male "him" as has been done in the English language. WE ARE DESTROYING THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WITH SUCH RIDICULOUS PHRASES!!! Other languages have the Neutral part of speech, "IT" when speaking about a child, for instance. No need to identify gender, just a child, where IT is a general way to express the point). I have written about the self sacrifice required, in order for all of us to "do our little part" towards cleaner air, by NOT, using a drive-by window at a business, which often becomes a long line of cars around the building, all expelling gas exhaust, when it would be better to "PARK & WALK". I have been insulted for speaking up, but I know I need to try to get others to see the reasoning behind what I say or write.
Well done Michelle..... YET .....
Until you find a MAN OF GOD or unless YOUR FATHER WAS A MAN OF GOD and passed down the spirit to you, unless one of the above examples is
TRUTH
Then,
👿 SATAN WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR DADDY 😈
As Satan works through the woman ~ through the Feminine!
I wish you all the best,
I wish you 🍃🙏 GOD 🙏🍃
Good bye Michelle!
I bought it & have not read it yet - I fall asleep with books too:) and have a feeling I will need to take notes. I'll start today, thank you!
Thank you both! I stood alone in my school speaking and DOING what was true and good for the children against such oppression. The slander and bullying by the administration was beyond anything i could have imagined. These men are correct. I didn’t compromise and paid a price as some will always believe the slanderous statements. But I can promise that I have peace when I lay my head down on my pillow and I KNOW my God is forever with me and directing my path. This isn’t my “real” home and we aren’t promised an easy life when following Christ but the inner joy and peace He gives will sustain until I am home with Him!!
I pray God gives us the courage to praise Him in this fallen world! God bless you
I love this comment. Very well said!
Yes yes yes! Stand strong and proud even in the strongest of storms. We are not of this world but if we don’t each and everyone of us stand up for the future generations we are really shameful. We MUST push back right now or these minority ideologies will be like a fish swallowing a whale. And the whale letting it happen without fight back against such an absurdity.
Bravo....Amen
@LaymanScribe😊
… we are all living the scriptural lessons in real time🔥 the time for deadwood thinking is finished and now well and truly ablaze and the refining of the Word has begun.
We are all called to “hold the door open for the truth”
With Christ, it’s gentle, without… the man-made “fear” some make and perpetuate (advertent/ inadvertent) just keeps building.
If we determine to stop being caught up in it, the Holy Spirit within gently let’s us see….the truth …
We have a choice, Jesus always gives us the choice.
“If” … by Rudyard Kipling
Just found Dr Peterson on youtube, and I can't stop watching his videos. Dr Peterson, Thanks for standing up for the truth, in this difficult days.
Also top notch is James Lindsay's, New Discourses podcast, on here also.
Check out his psychological interpretations of the biblical series. Its mind blowing. The 12 rules for life was the first book I have ever read front to back as an adult. I'm half way through with 12 more rules. He's a very good teacher and im thankful to have been blessed by his wisdom.
You have a lot of catching up to do Maria 😅 What a remarkable man and hope you got a chance to see his daughter + her spectacular story 🫶 Watch her at Oxford’s debate 🔥🔥🔥
Be very well 🥳
I second the biblical series suggestion, it blew my hair back as well 🤯
The real peterson revolution lies in the playlists on his channel... maps of meaning, personality, and the psychological significance of the biblical stories
I love how many times they tell each other, "I never thought about it like that before." Goes to show how much we can learn from each other, into infinity!
YAHsome in-DEED❤ beauti-FULL❤ brilliant conversationalists and most wonder-FULL🌹speakers.
Veritable music to the ears, mind, heart and soul🎶🔥🎶🪽🎶💙⭐🎶🪽
Iron sharpens iron 💪👆🙏
And Beyond!
And Beyond!
One of the most important interviews of this decade. I hope people are beginning to understand how important it is that we all start speaking up to defend truth.
to quote Pontius Pilate: "what is truth"
We re in war a hot one...can lose our freedom.
@@justanobody0yeah…and the TRUTH was standing right in front of him ….TRUTH IS A PERSON ….JESUS CHRIST THE LORD
I’m reading Eric’s book “Letter to the American Church”. He puts our problem to words. The Church has gotten it wrong thinking all we need to do is preach the gospel and by all means never talk about political issues.
Only a little scriptural truth was spoken. Trinitarianism is a false religion.
Jordan and Eric together are DYNAMITE ! They bring out the best in each other and magnify each other. Please do this often !
Two of my favourites
Jordan and Robert Kennedy together were DYNAMITE . people like Sergey Brin and Mark Zukerberg= they censor only our connections. congregation is important for them.they loose control in a case like that.
It was disappointing to see JBP not push back at all when it was clear he had disagreements with this guy... 🙄
I guess the power of audience capture is stronger than "telling the truth"... 😅
@@fahimp3 like where, just curious cause i watched it all..
@@fahimp3 oh I thought he obviously pushed back! :) He questioned things often enough and gave his perspective. Eric just has a confident personality and is extremely smart. I think we aren't used to seeing many on the same intellectual level as Jordan. It evens the playing field a little more. It actually made it seem like an actual conversation vs lecture.
I had the privilege of having Eric come to my church and speak on a Sunday morning. What he is saying is true, our church stayed open and we doubled attendance during covid. Eric message is indispensable for the church and America right now.
You were blessed @sethwitte4128 to have a church open. Ours went gangho counting masking registering and i stayed home started a ladies prayer group and watched Jack Hibbs and MacArthur and Murillo all the way here in Europe.. thank God for internet
Is your church in CA or VA
@@merrisahunting51 PA
Which Church? I went to see him speak at a church in Connecticut. They did the samething i think it was Bethel. Im from Connecticut
Our old church decided to "love their neighbor" by closing, then counting, distancing, required masking, and even photographing people so they could give the county a list in case someone got covid. We left, as did a huge number of members. We joined a church that probably doubled since covid. Our new church did close briefly but opened in the early summer and were back to normal without any requirements within 4 months.
It wasn't covid that caused our family to leave after nearly two decades, but the theology behind the decisions made. The first church appeared to fear the world's opinion and sought to submit church worship to the government. The second believed God is sovereign and we obey Him, regardless of man's opinion.
This is just so brilliant! Thank you SO much Jordan for having Eric on your show. You are circling the wagons Jordan. You are so close to coming to the Truth. Your present problems with the College of Psychologists of Ontario is no accident. God is calling you.
I just wish that I was half as smart as these two. God bless you both.
Well said.
The faith-works controversy is so blasted unnecessary. Why have things been agonized over for so long? Obviously, God measures our inner intentions primarily.
Lolol. Me too
You're art enough, and more so than you think.
I read Bonhoeffer over ten years ago, as a German national it left an indelible impression on me. Now, as a follower of Christ in this age it is even more poignant. Thank you both of you for speaking the truth as I see it, the church of America and of Europe (I live in the UK) needs to hear this!
His biography makes you realize that when evil arises a Christian has to decide who he really is and then decide what actions are the right ones according to God. Bonhoeffer’s dedication combined with those internal struggles challenged me. Would I have that kind of resolve? Only with Gods help.
The Church in Australia needs to hear this truth and reignite its faith and purpose in Almighty God
My pastor lead me to Bonnhofer in 1984! It changed my life....
May I be brave for God
This may be my favorite conversation ever: God, liberty, truth, courage, & humor.
The first time you were able and you had to do something about the situation you had with your mom was to tell me to come home because you didn’t have to go back home because I didn’t have to do that to her because I was not able and you were going home because I had a bad day so
The first time
Yuuuu
YAHsome conversation in-DEED ❤
May they lead us to heaven
We must not allow Eric to be a lone voice with this message. My gratitude to Jordan, Eric, and all of those that have ears to hear and Faith to act.
You know that a podcast is GARBAGE, when the parties involved discussing religion, do not quote Bible at every statement uttered.
-- People who are serious about TRUTH, should demand a "thus saith the Lord".
@@paulnobody2826Perhaps you might want to revisit the section starting at minute 50 - the foreshadowing of sacrifice for salvation through Yeshua
@@Desire_of_Ages if people were interested in truth, they wouldn't quote KJV English, but rather the original Hebrew. Shalom 🙏 In the name of Yeshua Hamashiach
@@marilynbower1352 => can you read ancient Hebrew? Are you a Scholar working on your ThD/PhD? 🤔
(You make zero sense)
@@Desire_of_Ages Yes, I only make sense to the literate. If you want to be involved in the translation of over 80 Hebrew texts, you can be taught the Hebrew and be part of this initiative.
Excellent conversation. Shame on TH-cam taking these type of videos down!
They aren't the only ones censoring social media.
Their days are numbered! Rumble is stepping up their platform and will hopefully be a fabulous and freedom-of-speech loving alternative to TH-cam.
“It has only taken me 40 years figure that out.” All of us must be in that mode, pursuing truth our entire life. Thank you to both of these great brave men who encourage us!
both are intellectuall, but stupid. well read, articluate, but living in perceptions and therefore deception. Some men desire women, some desire money, others desire god. They are all moving in the same phenomena of desire nonetheless.
me? 60 years! 😭 how much time I wasted thinking I knew what I thought was right because of what I was taught and find out it was wrong!
@@melissatolbird4512 Better late than never!😊
Just wait till you find out earth is Flat... Water doesnt lie, people do..
@@martijnvandevoort9730 I believe it is flat! they lie, lie, & lie some more.
I didn't want this to end. These men have inspired me to be more courageous in speaking up.
My wife and I absolutely agree with your comment. They are gift from God, part of His divine grace. God bless them and you and us too.
Yes this interview seemed to end too soon.
One and half over podcasts change your worldview and personality. What does it say about you?
@@saimbhat6243 I've been a Christian for many years and Jesus set me free from an alcohol addiction almost nine and a half years ago. What this podcast did for me was to encourage me to be braver in the face of secular/ woke indoctrination in the workplace and life in general. I've shared the worldview Jordan and Eric subscribe to long before I was aware of their existence.
@@donhardman6919 Thank you. God Bless you.
Great interview. As a Christian I 100 percent agree with what Eric stated. A true Believer is not a coward and can see things from God’s perspective. We must speak out and know God will reward our obedience and His reward transcends the superficial rewards this world has.
The analogy that Jordan stated regarding the story of Cain and Abel was brilliant. I'm gonna have to re-read the story until it's very clear to me.
The presentation was exceptional . The church needs to bring discussions like these to awaken Christians.
Thank you for this
Exceptional conversation, I agree! I shared it with my son, who's already a JP fan. Eric's explanation of divine inspiration was inspired :) God bless
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When the government or the left in politics comes to jail you or burn your house down and they will, this will be the result of courage.
As a believer in Jesus Christ in Canada 🇨🇦 thank you from the bottom of my heart, Eric Mataxas, for writing Letter to the American Church. And for having Eric to talk about it, Jordan Peterson!
The intellectual prowess of these two, combined with their brutal honesty and moral wisdom is a refreshing reminder of what standing for truth in the service of love looks like.
You have stated it so much better than I did. Bravo to your comment. Intellectual prowess..etc. .These two men were a delight to listen to.
🤣🤣🤣 I don’t think we need to hear from corrupt far-right puppets, on how to define ‘true religion’!!
I read Eric Metaxas' book. It is a must read. He fires the warning shots to Americans who stay silent or hide instead of taking a stand to save our country and our faith.
I have to agree with him about the ATHEIST MARXISTS wanting POWER and we are in the PRE-HITLERIAN period now. Let's all wake up to those fascists (FJB, TURDEAU, MACRON etc) around us!!
Who's listening?
All religions are false
YES! Faith in TRUTH! And like they said (~38') - How do you trust yourself? - YOU HAVE TO CARE...
I got the book for my husband who was a pastor, but now does pro-life speaking full time. He loved it so much he bought it for both of our pastors. A must read!!!
I ordered Eric’s book last night. Coupled with the rise of Sound of Freedom, I think God is stirring His people to do much more than profess a theology.
With Chaos and darkness around the corner, God is calling his Sons and Daughters to arise and be the LIGHT in the Midst of darkness. Love God and Others, Heal the Sick and Make Disciples!
I hope so. We're so quick to read a book and watch a movie and that's the end of it.
Well put
Maybe for those just waking up now, but some of us have been seeing the 'stirring' decades ago with the 'smart' tech, porn, contraception, planned barenhood, the shots, etc..... yes, people need to get off line and get working on their humility and perform ACTIONS.
@@eddiewalker7252 If you have the gift of healing. All believers in Jesus have different gifts from the Holy Spirit. But 💯 we are here to share the Gospel. The wonderful news of Jesus.
Privileged to live on the planet with these two brave men who speak truth. My favorite podcast ever.
Mine too.
@@janetclark5668Me 3❤🎉
I want to point out how much I appreciate Jordan Peterson as an interview. These podcasts used to be hard to watch, because he would just interrupt constantly. He doesn't do that anymore, and he asks very poignant questions, and even allows guests to interrupt him. This was an exceptional episode, I loved hearing what Metaxas had to say.
I saw the same thing, he was too used to speaking lmfao.
They are very much alike in their interviewing habits. I've been so annoyed with both Metaxas and Peterson interrupting those they interview. And here I notice Metaxas interrupts Peterson! They're a good match!
Keep in mind he was an academic. A professor. Professors talk for the whole hour with nobody else talking. For him to transform and now be and interviewer with no training, he definitely learned these skills on the fly! Very impressive
Agreed. It is easy for an interviewer to interrupt and requires self-awareness and discipline. Peterson has that in spades.
Are you saying Jordan has gotten a handle on impulsively interrupting and inserting a ridiculously long comment or question? If so, that's good to hear. I stopped watching because it was frustrating to watch with Jordan interrupting. I hadn't given up though. I do check in. I definitely noticed that Jordan wasn't interrupting. But I actually thought this conversation was an exception because Metaxas is such a strong person he was able to stifle Jordan. I thoroughly enjoyed the interview.
I'm not American, I'm not even Christian, and as a fellow human; this was an eye opener. WOW. Thanks, Jordan. Thanks, Eric.
The first step is to have your eyes open. The second step is to have the scales fall off them.
I and I bet many others are praying for you. Keep seeking!
It is a spiritual law
If any one seeks Truth honestly from the heart
Truth has to appear / be known …
So Keep seeking and Truth will be found …
The Holy Spirit will lead you to The Truth 🙏
The Holy Spirit convicts hearts. Jesus ❤ you!
@INQUESTFORTRUTH…Bless you in your quest🙏🏽
Thankful to Eric for preaching the gospel with clarity and to Jordan for letting him do it.
I believe every church needs a copy of this book and every church leader needs to read, share and discuss this with believers everywhere. As for me, I’ll share a link to this podcast interview and pray it stays available on TH-cam. Thank you gentlemen!
You're not wrong. They do need to read it but they won't change. I'm certain of that.
Cheap grace rules the majority of christian churches in the west.
Totally agree! I will share it with as many people as I can.
I’m so glad Eric Metaxas took the time to explain and share his testimony! It’s beautiful and God was definitely glorified in it! 🙌
I was happy to hear his testimony also. It's interesting to hear how God works in people's lives through there very personal experiences. I had a very similar experience with the Lord when He was drawing me to Himself. He used reason and someone else's dream about me. I also had the experience in reality of colors being brilliant after I was born again--like sunglasses were removed from my eyes. It happened after hearing the gospel about Jesus dying for my sin and being convicted of being a sinner while watching a TV evangelist. I repented and asked the Lord to forgive me thru tears of sorrow. Then it was as if a waterfall washed through my body from head to toes and a burden was lifted. I felt cleansed, joyful and light as a feather. I also immediately knew the Bible was God's Word and it was all true. It was like I was experiencing another dimension and God's presence just flooded me. I haven't been the same since that day in 1985. I found out later that Jesus said in the Bible that we must be born again--that's what it felt like--a spiritual birth. God is so amazing!!! Thank you, Jesus, for dying in my place. I can't express how grateful I am that you would die for me. I will always speak Your truth. Help me to always be courageous.
@@paulnobody2826, how what?
@@carol4536 I think Paul is a troll or just searching for answers for his empty life. Let's pray for him 🙏
@@dianegarcia6562, ok. Heavenly Father, I pray you would begin to open Paul's eyes to the glorious message of the gospel. Lord Jesus, when you died on the cross, You showed us what a loving Savior you are. I pray Paul would see the love, compassion, sacrifice and suffering you endured that he might have his sins atoned for and receive eternal life. I pray Paul would open his heart to Your amazing grace and love. Amen
Amem!
Eric came and spoke at my church... life changing. Met him in person, such a humble, kind man!!!! The real deal
Amazing how one person can change your life. 😮
I am interested to know how much of Eric's discourse to your church was religious and how much political. If the latter predominated then I think that he has unwittingly perhaps done you a disservice.
❤Praising God for Courageous people standing up for Righteousness!!
When Eric asked Jordan, “what happens when you take a fish out of water?” I had chills. I keep thinking about everything he described in it.
I was struck by all the layers of beautiful symbolism… and I’m sure there was more he had to say about it; coming through the water like a baptism.
This is how God speaks to us.
"Our job is to fight. Our job is to fight, and to look to God for leadership and guidance, and the results are in His hands." This discussion is powerful.
both are intellectually stupid. well read, articluate, but living in perceptions and therefore deception. Some men desire women, some desire money, others desire god. They are all moving in the same phenomena of desire nonetheless.
@@SusanParker-uz5du
2000 years ago woman had way different lives than we have today.
Amazing to listen to two intelligent articulate men who have the capacity to unpack complex conversations
A true privilege to listen to them
Yes amazing
Well said, it is a privilege to be able to listen and learn and be part of their discussions!
I was struggling with my walk and I know the Lord put this interview in my feed. We have to keep fighting the good fight. Our Lord would have everyone saved, but we do have a choice. Thank you for posting this!
No lords or masters. Only men.
You are doing well, as long as you are searching for him and are ready to follow him, you will be ok!
Eric Metaxes at his finest. Thank you J Peterson for giving him the platform. Your interviewing skill is topknotch resulting in consistently interesting and informative discussions. Always a joy to listen and learn
In a world full of shallow views and out of context clips and soundbites it's awesome that JP has these sitdowns and meaningful discussions.
Right!!!! My therapist and yours too!!
@dalelerette206He would have become A man after God’s own heart, just as King David did; quick to admit his sin and beg mercy.
More substance than our debates that decide who holds office in America
@@cynthiagonzalez658 But Abel WAS killed........
@@cynthiagonzalez658Agreed. "I will be like the most high GOD," "I did it MY way", and now adding to the list, "I will determine my sex/gender."
I wrote and rewrote this comment a dozen of times and still can't get it shorter than this. I am overly joyous/excited/thrilled after watching this video and for many many reasons too. One of them is that is extremely satisfying to listen to smart, intelligent, erudite, man whose hearts are in the right place. Man who love the truth, righteousness, justice, and above all GOD our creator. Another very important thing is the message and I need to tell you guys: It has been received. I was also struck by the Eric's testimony about how he came to Jesus. This is exactly what happened to me just a different dream. May I just say - Mr Peterson I appreciate how you pushed Eric to tell this story because in actuality this is our testimony/witness for the kingdom. I have also noticed that this theme keeps coming up over and over in Christian media. It confirms and encourages my believe that we have to take a stand and not be passive observers of what's going on around us. I learn to take responsibility for my own words and actions. Dear brothers and sisters in the faith, I want to leave you with this: if you do not find it in yourself - go to our Father in heaven. He is the one who will give you the change of heart. You can't do anything without Him. This is all H e wants - for you to seek Him, trust Him, obey Him. THE BATTLE BELONGS TO THE LORD. Choose who is your Lord today!
Beautifully spoken
🙌🏽🙌🏽
Carnal Christianity lacks the honesty of supernatural Christianity that the disciples used -- and honest Christians use. That I use!
This is the most truthful podcast I have ever heard. Thank God for two real men willing to speak to the evil that is present in today's world! I pray that your words drive nails into the signs of satans hand in all this, posted for all to see and hear! I also pray that ears can hear and eyes can see.
Agree totally. God bless those two fine men.
@@patriciagraham222 did i say Amen🤣💪🏽✅🙏🏽
One of my favorite interviews with two of the most fascinating people around! So happy it popped up in my TH-cam feed.
I first saw "Letter to the America Church" by chance in the new book section at the library & immediately borrowed and read it. Eric wrote my favorite biography, "Amazing Grace: William Wilberforce and the Heroic Campaign to End Slavery" ... he's just a fabulous writer. Both Peterson and Metaxas are heroes of our time and important luminaries in a dark world. God bless them both.
This has been one of the most fascinating interviews! As a Christian, I am thankful for this discussion and I completely agree Eric Metaxas! We, as Christians MUST start standing up for what’s right and true! We have an obligation to stand up and if not, we will pay for our complacency!!
Don’t know why I’ve never heard this guy before. Few men, let alone Christians, have the intellectual ability to match wits with Peterson. So when Christians invest in the depth of truth & understanding like Jordan’s guest does here, this kind of discussion becomes intolerably sharp & affective like very few things in life can be. Thank both of you gentlemen for your time, attention, courage & commitment to the highest things in your lives! I speak for many when I say, we deeply appreciate you both!
Oh there are more intellectually talented dedicated Christians than you may be aware of.
Human intellect means nothing compared to godly wisdom. The Father didn't choose the greatest intellectuals of the 1st century to be apostles. I'd rather have godly wisdom and understanding than to have someone sing my praises about how someone isn't able to match wits with my intellect.
You haven't heard of him because YT erased him.
Conflating earthly knowledge with Godly wisdom is foolish.
@@MTknitter22 And they need to speak up then.
The Letter To The American Church is a great book. And we were fortunate enough to have Eric speak at our Church for one of our Apologia's.
As a born again Christian myself, Eric's description of how he was filled with joy when Christ was revealed to him in his dream was the exact feeling I had when He revealed himself to me. I had a knowing, a knowing that it was Jesus' s voice I heard that told me He forgives me. And Erik mentioned the specialness of the colors that he saw in his dream. This is also something I experienced in that moment, I remember having the thought "I have never seen such a blue sky. I have never seen such green as the leaves in that tree!" It made me feel like I had been reborn, and so I was. Thank you to these start men using their gifts to bend the world towards eternal truths.
I guess you are seeing Jesus, because you can't see God. Jesus is God's son and his representative.
From South Africa, with not too many of the issues you guys face, I must say, the encouragement has blown my mind. I also enjoyed this podcast more than any other this year. I am Fired up and built up in my faith, which is NOT what I expected..thank you!
You should leave south Africa
Stayed fired up brother! Rewards here mean nothing only the ones Jesus Christ gives in the next life will last for eternity!
are living scriptural lessons in real time🔥 & the deadwood thinking is well and truly ablaze, the refining of the Word has begun.
With Christ, it’s gentle, without… the man-made “fear” perpetuated (advertent/ inadvertent) just keeps building with crushing pressure.
We have a choice, Jesus always gives us the choice.
Keep gently building your faith trading in all that is not of Christ with Holy Spirit … if in doubt trade it all in for Spirit gentleness, kindness, goodness and patience - this is how to hold and grow faith with Spirit
“If” … by Rudyard Kipling
@@treyjenkins7334and the numbers after your name… God is watching everything 🔥
You need to fervently pray for our nation that God’hand will not turn from us we as person as a nation do not deserve it
I love the intellectual chemistry between these two...
gayyyyy
@mthunzidhlamini8257….me too
Me too🧐
Being Christian is far from anti-intellectual. BobThieme my pastor or mentor of my pastor Dr Glen Carnagey. Their depth and teaching marches ..on but ,the mediocre continues enmasse. Predicted about the lukewarm church, which I believe is now. Revelation. Ps lbj s gag order has nuch to do w the silence. Trump lifted it; I m sure obama..err bobo put it back.
I do too. Eric just needs to reign in a bit his urge to butt in when Jordan is in the middle of creating a sentence.......haha...but I truly respect both of them
Huge level of respect for both of these men.
My eyes are watering! Loved this! God is with these men.❤
When Eric said “ it means, I’ve accepted Jesus. “ I felt that in my soul and spirit. I experienced a similar awakening and was no longer ashamed.
This is a great episode, but it all must go back to the person of Christ. He founded one religion in the year, 33, ad. The same religion has persisted, and even gone underground to a degree. You can still find the places where the Catholic Church existed 2000 years ago. The writing show evidence of the same teachings and the same sacraments. This is why my wife’s family have always been St. Thomas Christians and their faith has never changed. But heresy cannot save you
The world owes a huge debt of gratitude to these two great men. Eric Metaxas through his podcast, has broadened my world with the many important guests he has on his show. I am eternally thankful for all of his hard work for God and country.🙏🏽🇺🇸❤️
There is no pursuit more noble than the pursuit of truth friend. For no virtue can exist before the virtue of truth. It is the truth alone that can set us free. Only actions informed by the real truth, are capable of cutting the shackles that bind and exploit us. Exploit us physically, intellectually, spiritually, and economically... Just wanted to say that I appreciate you and especially your name Truthseeker. Keep fighting the good fight, and be energized to know there are hundreds of thousands of us, almost certainly many millions of us fighting the same fight... They've done well to keep us from realizing we are the majority. But it really feels like the tide is starting to turn, and the sun beginning to rise on their dark lies, deceit, secrecy and coercion. We will win.
Man I love this country 🇺🇸
God and country have been seperated otherwise we'd he ruled by the Pope right now.
If churches hosted these conversations and spoke this way, I don't care what denomination, I would be there and I know a lot of other people would be too. The unexamined life may not be worth living but it sure is useful to be guided in that examination by thoughtful, courageous, reality-based leaders. Thank you for this episode!
Love love love listening to mature Christians debate.....if you are not yet a confessed Christian Mr Petersen, take the step. Bowing your knee to serve Jesus Christ is the best Brisbane Australia
Kathy are you Steve's sister?
I think Peterson is already a trinitarian. He needs to become a Christian.
@@MichaelTheophilus906His wife is Catholic but he has never talked about being aligned with any religion
Eric I am also Greek and brought. Up in SouthAfrica . The Lord found me at the age of 14 . Such an honor to be chosen by Him
...For such a time as this
I whole heartedly agree these guys killed it !! Great partnership... TWO Amazing hearts and heads ABUNDUNT TRUTH!!! LETS DO THIS AGAIN GUYS PLEASE
Wow, I have read his Bonhoeffer biography, but I never knew what an intelligent, humorous man of faith Eric Metaxas was! A vitally important message he has as well! Thank you both for you this conversation!
Yes, this shows M in a much more favourable light - I've never warmed to him ɓefore - thank you!
LMAO
I feel exactly what you say. I have become increasingly sensitive to how God is guiding me. I understand that we need to give your books to our pastors. I am involved in a movement in my county. We are trying to save our Country, and we need their help.
What an amazing podcast. My respect for these two men has only grown in the last few years.
Totally agree. I'll be waiting this again and again.
Two of my favorites, and together they are fabulous! Thank you to JP and EM for this great podcast! To everyone else, take a stand for truth NOW.
@@Cowboyup57717 Are you always given to understatement? 😉
As a Canadian who recently discovered politics, I'm surprised at how ignorant most Canadians are (I was the same way before the pandemic so I cast no shade). We need to work towards keeping Canadians informed because it's getting worse daily, and I don't think we're aware of the dangerous effect of Justin Trudeaus rhetoric. He WANTS us to be divided and until people wake up it will just get worse.
Americans too. They're suppose to teach us how to run our own country in public school but instead we get this new religion of gender ideology ans race baiting bullshit making kids feel bad for qualities they have no choice in
So grieved for your nation and how many fronts you have lots there
Thank you for getting into politics and not popular politics! You're very right about Trudeau. He's a dangerous man.
Thanks to the LORD God, the creator of the universe and all that is in it has chosen and raised up some people for His good purpose of completing that Redemption in Jesus Christ. Thank God for Eric Metaxes, and Jordan Peterson, Clinical psychologist, who is searching and pondering over the TRUTH of human existence and meanings. So many are there with you. Continue with your quest, God will answer you as is His promise...
God first then guns then country and family.
Amen. As an Italian living in the US, I find that this is an immensely important topic, as I’m shocked to realize what many people “think” christianity is about. Thank you for having this conversation. God bless you all.
Religion is down to an individuals interpretation and they can pick and choose parts to follow based on their own morals. It's always changing anyways....the popes change their mind with things all the time to keep up with modernization. Very interesting.
God doesn't need a religion
@@MichelleInnes-g7d everyone's god is personal to them.
I’m an Italian living in New Zealand. The complete absence of God here is deafening. Che Dio vi benedica tutti.
@@dazzat91yeah, the codified morality didn't proliferate and create the best societies on earth because people were picking and choosing. Why comment when you don't know anything
Gratitude! An enjoyable and exceptional message by two of the FEW honorable men!
This podcast was by far the best podcast I’ve ever listened too. So rich in content, I listened to it 2x’s and gained new insight the 2nd listen. If the world could actually just stop, take the time to listen with open ears and a heart to hear, I’m convinced people would see for the first time in their life, Jesus is real, and He loves people so much. The culture is feeding us a slow drip of poison and the lies we are being told is killing us! Wake up! Shake off this spell, listen and learn. This podcast is the best place to start. Thank you Jordan for doing this interview with Eric. 2 brilliant minds.
Good to have spiritual peace of mind. 😊
Never disappointed watching JBP, but this was so good, that I must watch again. Thanks!
How come people don't seem to understand the bible
Paul...have you met Hermine?
I have studied the bible a lot
Jordan, I always love hearing you laugh! Eric, thank you for making him chuckle a few times! Our souls need laughter through these crazy, challenged times. Love listening to the words of wisdom you both exude. We need to stand tall for what we believe in and stop allowing others to change our values and commitments to God.
God has humor; otherwise the genealogy would not show a harlot in the lineage. Satan has no humor like his followers.
I'm in tears this was nothing but the Holy Spirit at work! Can't wait to celebrate in heaven with y'all! I may sound presumptuous but y'all will see how much God worked through y'all thank you so much!!! God is so good. I can't even explain I'm in tears ❤
IDK if JP is gonna make it, he keeps thinking this is all a metaphor.
Let's pray that he will except Christ too 🙏
@@darthbigred22Pray for him
@darthbigred22 he is certainly a man of faith on his way to diving in fully. It's not that black and white. There are many who profess to be Christians, profess to be saved, and they live wreched lives of lies. I don't think it's the golden metric. As least not as black and white as it may seem.
@@darthbigred22or a parabale(sp)
I'm an Australian and been standing against many of these issue's since 2000.
I got saved in 1983, and experienced many things in churches, but in 1997 God took me aside to a place where He could pull me up.
I absolutely love Eric Metaxas' humility and sense of humor. New fan here.
Just spent 200$ to listen to the end of this conversation. ❤
@@slavicstriz8715but they have other wonderful shows included in the 200$ like the series Exodus,Wha is a woman movie,the most watched movie in the history with more than 170 million viewers
@@slavicstriz8715Me too! 😂
Mr. Peterson, I respect you. All the way from Africa Ethiopia.
Hello from North AMerica =)
Also congratulations on the way most of Africa handled the Covid-19 pandemic and didn't fall prey to the hysteria, greedy & unethical medical treatment like we did in North America. Very impressive outcomes were acheived in Africa without the "vaccine". Stay safe =)
Bless you!
Happy to see that many people from my country are listening to Dr Jordan Peterson.
I respect and love Peterson too, but I feel like more of his fans comments should also at least gives the interlocuters credits as well as praises. It's a collective, mutual efforts and projects afterall
We need to start broaching all the 'unbroachable' subjects right now! The things that are not discussed out in the open are the subjects that will only fester and become open sores later in society! Do not let the people in charge 'limit' our speech! Free speech is freedom!
I have one such subject. Women shouldn't vote and the unprecedented move in human history to give women the same provileges and power as men, have been catastrophic for the human race, how's that for a subject ?
@@danxdanx8877 While I don’t completely agree, it does make sense to require people who want to vote show a minimum level of understanding of how government functions. But that would open a big can of worms.
@@danxdanx8877 says the guy with an animated crusader profile pic that isn’t even the right way around… ya we should listen to this guy!
@@atheosmachinabrilliant response!
@@danxdanx8877and yet women in politics as President/Prime Ministers and in politics have generally proven their capabilities beyond their male counterparts …
Great encounter of these two 🙏🏾
Brilliant conversation. Two men who are sharing my heart with the world. God save America. Bring us back to our Christian roots and foreword in your plans that we be a light to the world because we carry you in us. God bless you both.
These JP interviews are becoming must watch TV for me
Thank you Gentlemen for giving voice to the Spirit of God and to His people. I knew we were in a silent war a few months into cv19 and began praying like mad for my family and all families i knew, and families all over the world because i could see how high the stakes were. Now, i perceive God is on the way to all our rescue because we've been holding the line these many dark days. I love you guys. My husband is also an intellectual, but he and i have many challenging differences in points of view - both believers in the Messiah of Israel. Pray for us!
@@paulnobody2826, she said her husband was a believer in the Messiah. Sounds like they may have other differences, but, hopefully not essential doctrine of biblical Christianity.
Excellent conversation, thank you for allowing us to listen in and thank you both for standing, may we join in that!
This is one the best and most important interviews in independent media and a salutary lesson to all viewers. Stand up and be counted, all. Thanks Jordan and Eric, wonderful in the truest sense of the word.
Watch this number rise! Phenomenal sum-up.
I thought Metaxas's book about Bonhoeffer was so eye-opening. The parallels he makes about the silence of the Church today with it's silence during the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s is true.
The Bonhoeffer book sparked me to reclaim the family's long lost heritage of Judaism.
Thank-you, Mr. Metaxas.
Bonhoeffer was a wonderful example of someone whose message lived on in the face of his tyrannical murderers. Those monsters are alive in Washington at present.
Reclaiming mine as well.. Shabbat Shalom!
The Pope Pius XII, the Pope at the time, did speak out, in fact he was honored by a Jewish rabbi’s for doing so. Many Catholics saved Jews. It was a difficult time as the Church was being persecuted and many Christians were martyred, too, a fact that isn’t usually talked about. Thousands of clergy were killed by the Nazis. The Pope was an unrelenting opponent of the new German “ideals”-even writing an entire encyclical, ‘Mit Brennender Sorge’ (1937), to condemn them. He widely condemned them before he became pope, and after. When Pius XI died in 1939, the Nazis abhorred the prospect that Pacelli, Pope Pius XII, might be elected his successor because he had been so outspoken against them.
The Pope secretly worked to save as many Jewish lives as possible from the Nazis, whose extermination campaign began its most intense phase only after the War had started. The negative consequences of speaking out strongly were only too well known. “In one tragic instance, the Archbishop of Utrecht was warned by the Nazis not to protest the deportation of Dutch Jews. He spoke out anyway and in retaliation the Catholic Jews of Holland were sent to their death. One of them was the Carmelite philosopher, Edith Stein. While the U.S., Great Britain, and other countries often refused to allow Jewish refugees to immigrate during the war, the Vatican was issuing tens of thousands of false documents to allow Jews to pass secretly as Christians so they could escape the Nazis.
What is more, the financial aid Pius XII helped provide the Jews was very real. Lichten, Lapide, and other Jewish chroniclers record those funds as being in the millions of dollars-dollars even more valuable then than they are now. “In his memoirs, the then Chief Rabbi Zolli of Rome writes that he was sent to the Vatican, where arrangements had already been made to receive him as an ‘engineer’ called to survey a construction problem so that the Gestapo on watch at the Vatican would not bar his entry. He was met by the Vatican treasurer and secretary of state, who told him that the Holy Father himself had given orders for the deficit to be filled with gold vessels taken from the Treasury.” Thousands of Jews were shelter by the Vatican, monasteries, churches, and even the Pope’s summer home.
His success in protecting Italian Jews against the Nazis was remarkable. Lichten records that after the War was over it was determined that only 8,000 Jews were taken from Italy by the Nazis -far less than in other European countries. In June,1944, Pius XII sent a telegram to Admiral Miklos Horthy, the ruler of Hungary, and was able to halt the planned deportation of 800,000 Jews from that country.
The Pope’s efforts did not go unrecognized by Jewish authorities, even during the War. The Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem, Isaac Herzog, sent the Pope a personal message of thanks on February 28, 1944, in which he said: “The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness and his illustrious delegates, inspired by the eternal principles of religion which form the very foundations of true civilization, are doing for us unfortunate brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history, which is living proof of divine Providence in this world.”
After the war, Rabbi Zolli became a Catholic and, to honor the Pope for what he had done for the Jews and the role he had played in Zolli’s conversion, took the name “Eugenio”-the Pope’s given name-as his own baptismal name. Zolli stressed that his conversion was for theological reasons, which was certainly true, but the fact that the Pope had worked so hard on behalf of the Jews no doubt played a role in inspiring him to look at the truths of Christianity. Excerpts from Catholic Answers.
Because of the lies that were spread at the time, not many people heard about what the Catholic Church did for the Jews, but now much of it has come out. I am proud that my Church was so outspoken an and saved so many. I am sure there are Protestant Christians that saved Jews, too, but you couldn’t toot your horn loudly at the time the Jews were being killed, or they wouldn’t have saved any. Besides, a good Christian wouldn’t draw attention to himself, anyway, just work secretly.
@@davidm1149Yes, they are the same. It’s the same communist ideals that Russia has spread. The Blessed Mother Mary appeared to 3 peasant children in a Portugal in 1917. She told them the war would soon end, but if the people didn’t turn back to God and pray the Rosary for peace, another worse war would happen. Of course, it did. She also said if Russia wasn’t consecrated to her Immaculate Heart, that Russia would spread its errors through the world. That has obviously happened, too. It’s time to pray the Rosary for peace, before it’s really too late!
I enjoyed every second, every word of Mr Metaxas regarding Faith and the Works we as believers in Christ ought to do in this world. The way of Christ is Cross and if as a Christian we have other plans/ideas we are lying to ourselves. Thank you Dr Peterson for living courageously more than we who claim following Christ. I pray that God always bless you with his grace. ✝️🙏❤️🇨🇦
I"m going over to the Daily Wire for the rest of it... I sincerely pray this stays up on youtube... And I sincerely pray for God to make himself even more real to Dr. Peterson than he may have already. Thanks for having this discussion with Eric, he's a genius in his own right.
Jordan, I completely love that you are so brilliant and thorough in preparing for your interviews. This interview with Eric and also with Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel is so helpful in helping expose truth! Keep going! You are making a huge difference! We love your courage.
Agreed
I agree--his episode w/Tim & Jim was the best interview of those 2 I've seen leading up to & after SOF was released. Courageous & righteous men
Two of my favourite online ideas explorers talking together. I love the way they both disregard "the boundaries". Since they could both talk underwater it's great they could make it work. One of the sparkiest most energetic conversations I've heard. Many thanks to everyone who made it happen
Talk under water.
Brilliant
Gracias
There are no plural adjectives in English. Actually there are but “ ideas” isn’t one of them.
@@garyfrancis6193I think it is saying explorers of online ideas. Ideas is a noun.
Yea I agree and expose lies and wickedness wherever we find it right? People stay silent through fear of labelling grass or intimidation. Those need our help to speak for them and encourage them to be brave and speak up and Do the right thing.
So proud of you both - your courage to speak the TRUTH - and pay the price for doing so! Please keep writing and speaking.
Brilliant conversation. The depth of understanding that these two men have on the conversation subject is fascinating. I appreciate the humor mixed in as well.
didn't expect to hear Eric's testimony but man it was a great one. made me stir up my faith for the Lord!
"Light and darkness" baby. Love you Eric. "The Lord bless and keep you"
Great interview. Eric’s dream , described as a Grace from God was refreshing to hear. So glad he shared his dream.
Eric, your explanation of the relationship and definition of faith and works was on point! So thankful for the clarity of your Christian voice on the world’s stage.
I agree, but he was a bit hard on Luther. One thing Luther was trying to advance was the grace of God which is available for those who do put their trust in Christ for their own salvation. This was on the heels of the Roman church who at that time was laden with corruption e.g. selling indulgences to people who want to get a relative or friend released from purgatory, et al. There is no doubt that there are tepid people in every denomination, but that will change, I hope & pray.
The problem with Eric is that he promotes a false gospel. If we're relying on our works or our actions (which are subjective because he can't say how many works are needed) for salvation then he will never have a perfect assurance of salvation. It's a religion. If you ask any religious person "Do you believe you're going to Heaven?" They will answer "I hope so. I hope I have done enough good works or have been good enough."
This is not the Gospel of Jesus.
John 6
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
What is the Will of the Father? "that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life"
Where is the requirement of our works? It doesn't exist.
John 5
24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Today's Christianity mixes salvation with service which makes it a religion. Salvation is the moment you put your trust in Jesus to save you. "To Repent" is Metanoia - a Change of Mind. The Jews trusted in the Law, we trust in our good works, Jesus says change your mind stop trusting in yourself and trust Him to save you.
Does that mean we can sin freely? Yes and No. Hades and Eternal Hell are off the table when we are Born Again so in this case yes.
However, being Born Again by faith in Jesus means we are now a Child of GOD.
John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
Galatians 3
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Even though Hades and Hell are off the table, as the LORD's Children our sin is not ignored.
Hebrews 12
For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.”
7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?
When a mother has a child whether it's Jesus or Hitler that child is hers. There is nothing that can erase the fact that they are their parent's child. When we are Born Again we become Children of GOD. Nothing can alter this fact.
However, as a good parent when we willingly rebel the LORD will chasten us. If I cheat on my wife just because I am Born Again doesn't mean I am immune to the damage of my choices; my sin.
James 2 isn't about salvation it's about the "profitability" of my faith.
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
If I don't live out my faith I'm still saved. However, it doesn't do anyone any good in finding Jesus if I am not living out my faith. That's what James 2 is about.
Salvation- Believe in Jesus and you will be saved. Forever. Done. Sealed. You've passed from death to life.
Service- a choice to express the gratitude you have for the gift of salvation. This does not save you, keep you saved or prove you are saved. The Lost do good works all the time.
Discipleship- a decision to dedicate your life to Jesus through ministry.
I pray that we can learn to rightly divide God's Word and not mix salvation with service and discipleship to make Jesus into a religion. That's what the Pharisees did with Scripture. Hope this helps. Take care.
Eric's Bonhoeffer book really helped me recognize the trends to come.
Agree. I have his book.
Detrich Bonhoffer not Eric.
@@scottmckenna9164 A well written Biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas that explains History that informs and inspires men of a selfless person like Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
I’ve been struggling with the silence of the church. No one could answer my questions. This book confirmed, biblically, everything I’ve been thinking about. Thank you so much!!It is my passion to speak up.
Thanks so much Dr. Peterson and Eric Metaxas. May God help us all to re-establish true religion and true courage in our lives.
You need to understand that Muslims, Buddhists ect believe just as strongly about their faith as you or I do as a Christian. It's true to you and me, but we can't prove any of it, just like they can't. That's why it's faith. And they are just as free to believe what they do as you or I. To call one the only true religion is absurd. It can't be proven.
@@mikebowman5819here is only One True God. Allah and Budda did not rise from the dead, Jesus did. It's time to take a stand in what we believe as Christians and act on our faith.
@@PAULHPOWERS1 yes, we believe that He did. I also believe that I can't earn salvation and it was an accepted gift so taking any type of moral supremacy over anyone or any faith is filthy rags. If "acting" on faith is what conservatives do, count me out.
@@mikebowman5819 I drowned and died 55 years ago July 14 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Dr. Munson told my parents I was gone and not to build up their hope.
When the young man who pulled me from the water suggested prayer, Dr. Munson sharply reacted, "I don't believe in prayer! My parents were missionaries in China, and all I ever got was abuse in boarding school. I don't believe in it!"
Dad dropped to his knees on the Sandpoint Hospital Emergency Room floor and committed me to God's hands, closing, "God, You can bring him back, and it's all right if You don't. Would You please bring him back? In Jesus' name, amen."
Just then my monitors' flatline jerked to life! Erratic, but now there was movement.
Fifty miles down in Spokane, Washington, Surgical Nursing Professor Ruth Olson felt an urge to go up to Sandpoint and took the bus. One look at me in the hospital -- blue from lack of oxygen, and she told my mother, a Nursing student of hers 30 years before, "Get him down to Deaconess Hospital, or you're going to lose him!" They'd already lost me!
Anyway, I'm living on 55 years of borrowed time. If I didn't revive at the name of Jesus, I died 55 years ago, and this text doesn't exist. So some think I died 55 years ago, but that wasn't the end of my story. (I had a college Japanese prayer partner. Nothing unusual there till he became, to my shock, a Christian.)
@@jsf1949 glad that wasn't the end, friend. Thank you for sharing that.
100% spot on Eric!! Thank you for living out your faith in Jesus Christ!!
Eric was excellent at pinpointing the important nuances within this discussion.
Beautiful testimony, thank you Eric , you are really using your talent . “Well done, good and faithful servant “Matthew 25:23
God bless you brother
💯 yes!
I could have sat there and listened to both of you forever..God bless you dear brothers, for being voices in the wilderness. special thanks goes to you Jordan for being a thorn in the side of the evil.
And thanks equally to Eric Metaxes. Both are an inspiration beyond what words could ever tell.
I've listened to this 3X now and i have a feeling I will listen to it at least 3 more. This discussion is so earnest, necessary and completely refreshing ❤ thank you.
This conversation and it's intent was greatly enhanced by a sharp turn into the sacred.... please do more interviews together.
Wow! How true. Silence in the face of evil IS evil. God requires of us to be all in. Extraordinary discussion. Thank you both
I am so blessed that I have actually met both of these great men. They are both modern heroes.
I have Eric's Bonnehoffer & Letter To The American Church, inspiring. I pray pastors stand up for Truth!
Wish I might have met them both. Both are supported with intense prayer across the continent.
Listen to you both often! So excited to see this interview pop up! Can’t wait to hear it all! Thank you both for all you do🙏🙏🙏🙏
Excellent expository interactions between these two spiritual intellectuals …. hope we hear more of this kind of analysis. The Lord bless you both !
By far one of the best conversations I have seen on this channel. Absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much to both of you.
I totally agree
Eric's biographies are great reads!
The synergy of these two remarkable men is palpable.
It is truly a blessing to witness two redeemed intellects-Jordan Peterson and Eric Metaxas-express their beliefs with such courage and conviction. Their discussion inspires many in a unique and profound way.
Highly appreciate Dr. Peterson’s humour and how he genuinely reacts to jokes. The way the discussion goes is very much interesting. Thank you for doing this
I absolutely love these guys together. They are so funny. I appreciate their courage.
Yes, they are very funny! In a great sense! 👍
“The Silence of the Lambs” This was an utterly amazing, profound, & provocative discussion.
Nothing less than the salvation of every human being, the reconciliation of them with each other, and the restoration of their original goodness, created in the divine image, can justify the sufferings and sadness that fill human history. Nothing less can vindicate the love and goodness of God. I am convinced of this. All will be made well. All.
This discussion is huge. I can’t recommend it highly enough.
Pass this along to everyone you know and love. Pray they have ears to hear and eyes to see the importance of Eric’s premise here.
Do it. Do it now.