Great review (I’m liking a lot of your reviews at the moment 🤔) I first started motorcycling in the early 1990s, and bought a Belstaff jacket and pants, which served me very well for decades. I tried various newer, hi-tech Gortex products (including Rukka), and all have let me down. Nothing has served me as well as my old Trailmaster, which has obviously gotten pretty well worn by now. I actually sent it off to be ‘serviced’ and is much better but I don’t think up to regular road use any more. I’ve got a Knox Urban undershirt to use underneath the jacket, but I have to accept it’s time for a replacement. I’m definitely going to be getting another Trailmaster, and this review reinforces that determination. I’m looking forward to enjoying this fine product, which I think will easily outlast me 👍
Notice how the chest pockets ride low on the chest, in addition to being slanted, thus making them even easier to use and extract items from. Excellent ergonomic detail!
The small fabric patch sewn onto the shoulders is specifically a British flair, no? I love that. It hearkens back to the ancients, as if a remnant of battle armour.
I have a Trialmaster Made in Italy from about 12 years ago in black with padded quilting on the shoulders and elbows along with a little pocket on the left shoulder with the Belstaff badge on it. It's sick. Never seen anyone with this model and I'm in N.Y.C.!
I’ve got one of these, size large. 6’2 , 12.5 stone. 44 chest.It fits great as a tailored jacket, but I am a tad restricted in movement, so would caution the sizing. Possibly an Xl would be more suited? If I’d paid full whack, I’d be more disappointed, but was lucky on eBay. Thanks for the history, very interesting.
Yeah they do run small I took a gamble on a large lucky size is small £220 new with tags a bargain what I paid !! Bloody heavy jacket feels like a stab proof vest !!!
Had a Belstaff back in 1974.At the time they were affordable but the Barbours weren't. My missus has a Roadmaster which makes her Barbour Beadnell look like a sack. I have a Trialmaster, Citymaster, Dunstall, Kelland, Sammy Miller and Racemaster. The Racemaster is the smartest biker style jacket I've ever had and the Dunstall not far behind. Another plus with Belstaff is they're much easier and quicker to rewax than a Barbour.
I remember spending much of the 80's in one of these, back then they were about the only way of staying dry (ish). The smell of putting on a damp trialsmaster for the ride home from work will stay with me for ever. So will how warm they kept you (not) as you knocked the ice off it once home.
@@danthechippie4439 oh far from it, back then they were about as good as you could get long before technical wear was a thing. They are only going to be 40 years better than they were back then, and I loved mine.
@@markmundy3435 hi Mark, sorry mate I'm a bit confused by your posts. 5 month ago you say it smells so bad when wet you can still remember it and that was 35 ish years ago. It was such a cold jacket you could knock the ice of it, and yet your recent post you seem to love the jacket. Can you clarify which post you stand by? Do you love the jacket or hate it? Thank you for the clarification.
@@danthechippie4439 I didn't say "smells bad" but they do or maybe just did, I've not had one for many years so can't talk about the modern ones , have a somewhat memorable smell when damp, a nostalgic smell, a bit like an old leather jacket has a smell (kind of nice). But remember, this was in the days before waterproof membranes and thermal liners. Would I have one today, very much so, infact I've been contemplating one for some time to use when riding my scrambler.
Waxed cotton is not worth that and you can’t tailor waxed cotton to any level. These were designed as utilitarian jackets to be abused. Look up Speedwear for something that looks the same at a comparable price to what they cost in the 1950s.
"It may be made by Stylmartin, but in design terms it’s very much a Belstaff. This is not a cheap boot, but it is exquisitely styled and lovingly detailed." actually, i'm not surprised that this jacket is not a cheap BOOT
I tried on two Trialmaster jackets today (standard , not pro). One was M 38" chest and the other L 40" chest. I couldn't tell any difference at all between the two and neither could the store assistant.
How do you guys get on with a 3/4 length jacket; doesn't it bunch up when you sit? Did I hear you say the front zip is 2way, up and down, allowing to splay when seated?
@@Motolegends I own a Honda gold wing and I hope to purchase a harley fatboy before the year is out, in either case I will be an upright rider. I love the look of the leather belstaff but it is three times the price of the cotton wax version. And the cotton wax version is waterproof. I am not an all season rider anymore but rather when I want to ride instead of when I had to ride.
The Trialmaster is CE approved to Level A only, like every other garment in the Belstaff range. As you might know, first time round many brands have decided to go for Level A accreditation only, to avoid the bureaucracy and costs involved in failing to meet a higher level, and then having to re-test their garments. I'm sure not all of Belstaff’s range would meet the AA level, but certainly I would expect that a fabric made from a heavy-duty 10-ounce cotton would, especially as Belstaff has used extra abrasion panels in the A zone areas. I have checked a number of other wax cotton jackets on the market and whilst some are CE rated, some brands, like Merlin, currently have no CE rating. Obviously, this is currently in contravention of the regulations, but I think we can expect things to settle down over the coming years. Personally, from what I have seen, and from what I have been told, it would seem that; in the future; Belstaff will be aiming for the AA level where it is likely to be achievable. AAA, obviously, is probably never going to be feasible for a wax cotton garment. Anyway, I hope this is of help.
"In the 'older' regime you'd end up going up by two sizes..." Not in my experience. I've just acquired a Melonotti Roadmaster in small. I'm a petite 5'7'' and 10 stone and it's slightly too big. (Although not to the degree your medium size is too big...). However, my Barbour jacket in small fits me like a glove. (Pity it doesn't fit like a jacket... B'dum tish etc)
CIC i think you would look better if you didnt match your hats with your jumpers-relax-go nuts-mix it up a bit. Try a green hat and a blue jumper-why not. Go on mate-let its all hang out
My wife bought me a new Trialmaster for my 50th birthday. That was 13 years ago, and it still looks and performs like new. A quality piece of kit!
Love the history and background! I suppose not all jacket's will have such an illustrious past.
Great review (I’m liking a lot of your reviews at the moment 🤔)
I first started motorcycling in the early 1990s, and bought a Belstaff jacket and pants, which served me very well for decades. I tried various newer, hi-tech Gortex products (including Rukka), and all have let me down. Nothing has served me as well as my old Trailmaster, which has obviously gotten pretty well worn by now. I actually sent it off to be ‘serviced’ and is much better but I don’t think up to regular road use any more. I’ve got a Knox Urban undershirt to use underneath the jacket, but I have to accept it’s time for a replacement.
I’m definitely going to be getting another Trailmaster, and this review reinforces that determination. I’m looking forward to enjoying this fine product, which I think will easily outlast me 👍
The best jacket I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned a few trust me well worth the money pure class ❤
Notice how the chest pockets ride low on the chest, in addition to being slanted, thus making them even easier to use and extract items from. Excellent ergonomic detail!
Exactly
Thank you for the technical explanation of the wax cotton jacket.
It's a pleasure.
Brilliant jacket! When you wear a trialmaster you know you're wearing a quality piece of kit, I believe they offer free waxing now
I love watching these videos, with all those of the wall remarks...
The small fabric patch sewn onto the shoulders is specifically a British flair, no? I love that. It hearkens back to the ancients, as if a remnant of battle armour.
I have a Trialmaster Made in Italy from about 12 years ago in black with padded quilting on the shoulders and elbows along with a little pocket on the left shoulder with the Belstaff badge on it. It's sick. Never seen anyone with this model and I'm in N.Y.C.!
I’ve got one of these, size large. 6’2 , 12.5 stone. 44 chest.It fits great as a tailored jacket, but I am a tad restricted in movement, so would caution the sizing. Possibly an Xl would be more suited? If I’d paid full whack, I’d be more disappointed, but was lucky on eBay. Thanks for the history, very interesting.
Yeah they do run small I took a gamble on a large lucky size is small £220 new with tags a bargain what I paid !! Bloody heavy jacket feels like a stab proof vest !!!
Great review, thanks a lot!
Had a Belstaff back in 1974.At the time they were affordable but the Barbours weren't.
My missus has a Roadmaster which makes her Barbour Beadnell look like a sack.
I have a Trialmaster, Citymaster, Dunstall, Kelland, Sammy Miller and Racemaster.
The Racemaster is the smartest biker style jacket I've ever had and the Dunstall not far behind.
Another plus with Belstaff is they're much easier and quicker to rewax than a Barbour.
Hi Chris, have you guys reviewed the Belstaff tourmaster pro jacket?
I remember spending much of the 80's in one of these, back then they were about the only way of staying dry (ish). The smell of putting on a damp trialsmaster for the ride home from work will stay with me for ever. So will how warm they kept you (not) as you knocked the ice off it once home.
I'm concidering getting a Crosby or trialmaster, I take it you wouldn't recommend either?
@@danthechippie4439 oh far from it, back then they were about as good as you could get long before technical wear was a thing. They are only going to be 40 years better than they were back then, and I loved mine.
@@markmundy3435 hi Mark, sorry mate I'm a bit confused by your posts. 5 month ago you say it smells so bad when wet you can still remember it and that was 35 ish years ago. It was such a cold jacket you could knock the ice of it, and yet your recent post you seem to love the jacket.
Can you clarify which post you stand by?
Do you love the jacket or hate it?
Thank you for the clarification.
@@danthechippie4439 I didn't say "smells bad" but they do or maybe just did, I've not had one for many years so can't talk about the modern ones , have a somewhat memorable smell when damp, a nostalgic smell, a bit like an old leather jacket has a smell (kind of nice). But remember, this was in the days before waterproof membranes and thermal liners. Would I have one today, very much so, infact I've been contemplating one for some time to use when riding my scrambler.
@@markmundy3435 grand, thanks Mark
2019... boy, look at him, he doesn't know what was coming
I want one, just got to save up now.
Waxed cotton is not worth that and you can’t tailor waxed cotton to any level. These were designed as utilitarian jackets to be abused. Look up Speedwear for something that looks the same at a comparable price to what they cost in the 1950s.
"It may be made by Stylmartin, but in design terms it’s very much a Belstaff. This is not a cheap boot, but it is exquisitely styled and lovingly detailed."
actually, i'm not surprised that this jacket is not a cheap BOOT
I tried on two Trialmaster jackets today (standard , not pro). One was M 38" chest and the other L 40" chest. I couldn't tell any difference at all between the two and neither could the store assistant.
How do these compare to the Merlin Kurkbury? And can they be used in all seasons? Lovely video chaps, very informative and helpful. 👍
yes i have one of these... wear it all year round.. i love it... im 5ft 8inches and i feel great in it..
Which size do you have?
It must just be me and my short legs then. ML
How much do you weigh and what size did you get?
What size did you go with?
Nice video
Is this jacket good for casual wear? Or should I get the standard edition
How do you guys get on with a 3/4 length jacket; doesn't it bunch up when you sit? Did I hear you say the front zip is 2way, up and down, allowing to splay when seated?
I think he said the zip finishes higher up on the jacket, so it would allow room for your legs to be open on the bike.
What about the Crosby instead?
What’s the difference between the trialmaster and the trialmaster master pro - and which one would you go for for just casual wear?
Hi Chris, would you consider the Belstaff to be the best cruiser jacket you sell?
This may be an issue of terminology . You can wear this on a cruiser but I am not sure I would say it is a cruiser jacket per se. ML
@@Motolegends I own a Honda gold wing and I hope to purchase a harley fatboy before the year is out, in either case I will be an upright rider. I love the look of the leather belstaff but it is three times the price of the cotton wax version. And the cotton wax version is waterproof. I am not an all season rider anymore but rather when I want to ride instead of when I had to ride.
Have you recommendations for a suitable waterproof trouser to go with this?
Motorcycle and Outwear Jacket sizes different Belstaff.Is Trialmaster model regular fit or slim fit?
Regular.Mine is boxier than the Roadmaster
It's a brilliant jacket
How many caps does the chap have? 😀
😂 I olmos believe you are 6’2” shredded 😂👍🏼
Approved at which CE level?
The Trialmaster is CE approved to Level A only, like every other garment in the Belstaff range. As you might know, first time round many brands have decided to go for Level A accreditation only, to avoid the bureaucracy and costs involved in failing to meet a higher level, and then having to re-test their garments.
I'm sure not all of Belstaff’s range would meet the AA level, but certainly I would expect that a fabric made from a heavy-duty 10-ounce cotton would, especially as Belstaff has used extra abrasion panels in the A zone areas.
I have checked a number of other wax cotton jackets on the market and whilst some are CE rated, some brands, like Merlin, currently have no CE rating. Obviously, this is currently in contravention of the regulations, but I think we can expect things to settle down over the coming years.
Personally, from what I have seen, and from what I have been told, it would seem that; in the future; Belstaff will be aiming for the AA level where it is likely to be achievable. AAA, obviously, is probably never going to be feasible for a wax cotton garment.
Anyway, I hope this is of help.
@@Motolegends Yes, greatly, thank you. I would come to your shop for (Arai) helmet fitment if I lived in England.
"In the 'older' regime you'd end up going up by two sizes..." Not in my experience. I've just acquired a Melonotti Roadmaster in small. I'm a petite 5'7'' and 10 stone and it's slightly too big. (Although not to the degree your medium size is too big...). However, my Barbour jacket in small fits me like a glove. (Pity it doesn't fit like a jacket... B'dum tish etc)
Did Lawrence of Arabia have a Barbour on when he died or is that urban myth?
All jacket's should have a proper collar like this. I hate jacket collars that fit like a T-shirt neck hole.
Its an Italian jacket with a fancy name. Jocker...
the Barbour is a cheaper option
the vintage ones are nice. But the new ones are cheap as hell..
You all wish to know the secret I know about this jacket. hahaha, big big secret, oh yes :)
That it’s made in Romania?
@@leotehlion4586 hahah, not even Romania :D
@@imthefriend6463 alright, then. Keep your secrets.
CIC i think you would look better if you didnt match your hats with your jumpers-relax-go nuts-mix it up a bit. Try a green hat and a blue jumper-why not. Go on mate-let its all hang out
Whoa, that all sounds a bit out there to me!
Hats indoors...... Take it off baldy!
Bit unkind!