Star Wars: The Force Awakens Spoilers Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- John Campea, Jon Schnepp, Kristian Harloff, Mark Ellis and Dennis Tzeng give their SPOILER filled review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
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DID ANYONE ELSE SEE MARK ELLIS DOPPLEGANGER!!! PLEASE!! WAS I THE ONLY ONE LOL!
+Ed Vasquez I noticed that immediately too!
Noticed him... Same eyebrows and everything!
+Ed Vasquez YES THE IRISH GUY
+Ed Vasquez OMFG YES TOTALLY!!!!!!
+Ed Vasquez Haha I had the the exact same thought. I was like "So there's mark's british twin brother I guess?"
when Ben Solo killed Han, Han should have said " I Love You" And Bens reply should have been " I Know "
+Benjamin Moore Brutal, and I love it.
I thought they would but the face touch did the job
+Benjamin Moore
"when Ben Solo killed Han, Han should have said " I Love You" And Bens reply should have been " I Know ""
yes and Ben should have said "I know" Just after the killing blow, it would have moved mountains.
+Benjamin Moore Waiting for your version of the movie.
Daniel Korolev haha yeah! ill be making the special edition with george lucas ;D
01:48:13.00 DENIS: "Yes, but are we saying 100%, Han's dead?"
Guys, even if he survived the lightsaber through the chest *and* the 1000 ft fall...THE F&%#ING PLANET BLEW UP, MAN!!!
Stop drinking the blue milk.
*THE PLANET BLEW UP!!!* "The Force doesn't work that way!" :-P
+ThinkHeroPro that would be super lame
+Jacob Heaps-Downing Yes at the very least we will get a flashback or force ghost. i think Luke will commune with him somehow. They were best friends and there was no closure for them.
+Kevin Rubio but...you're saying there's a chance ?
Watching this after seeing The Last Jedi is hilarious
Try watching this after seeying RLM The Nerd Crew.😃
@Daniel Rodriguez bruh u re sooooooooooo gado
Watching this and them talking about where is it going to is hilarious after the whole mess of a trilogy ended
one thing you guys missed is leia never meets rae until the end of the film and she hugs her as if she's family or she knows who she is? plus why is rae sent by herself to meet luke and why didn't leia go to meet her brother? doesn't make sense for rae not to be his daughter
also why does she get a flashback of luke and how everything happened when she touches the saber? she must have to have some link to him
+Callum Hibbins Not really... when Luke touched the saber for the first time he didn't get any kind of flash back to his father.
+ColliderVideos yes true but George Lucas isn't doing it now.. that could have been a jj thing.. lol
Also, R2-D2 is in low power mode ever since Luke left but as soon as Rey arrives, R2 powers back up as if he felt the force of Luke?
+ENGLISH REACTIONS and being sooo powerful in the force it makes sense that she is a FULL Skywalker! in my mind Ben solo Is less of a true Skywalker than Rey! I don't think the force was as strong in Leia that Luke! so a direct Skywalker in the strong side just put it over for me that she is Rey Skywalker:)
His death was telegraphed, but Chewie's response sold the gravity of the situation.
agreed.
couldn't agree more
+Austin Andrews My heart bleeding in pain sold it :,(
+Austin Andrews I was so glad that Chewie got that shot at Kylo.
I loved the scene...telegraphed or not
REWatching this in 2021… the new trilogy has been finished and out for over a year and a half… hearing these guys talk about this film brings me back. Collider had a good thing going back then. Reminds me of simpler times…
I rewatch this every year
Han knew something about Rey. Maz Kanata bluntly asks Han "So who is the girl?" and then the film cuts out of that conversation. Films do not do that without a purpose.
+Jordan Tyler yeah i noticed that too
+Jordan Tyler Thank you for bringing this up! I was really hoping these guys would mention that!
+Jordan Tyler eh, maybe.
to me it was just one of the clever ways in which filmmakers let you know how a character learned about something that has transpired in the movie so far without having to listen to exposition. it doesnt necessarily mean anything
+Jordan Tyler So what did happen to Maz Kanata honestly?
after the first order arrived she basically just dissipated. We dont see or hear from her again. She seemed to have a very important part on the movie. Especially if she had Anakins/Lukes lightsaber in her possession.
+Jordan Tyler
Rey is Obi Wans daughter.
I think she had parents and were ditched and raised as a Jedi by Luke...when Ben went dark and started killing Jedis Luke wiped her mind and ditched her
Nevermind...she's totally his daughter
+Couch Tomato ha...Christian bought up "mind wiping" as well
I love how you're in like every comments section like a fan even though you have 250k subs.
She was only 5. She wouldn't need a mind wipe. People remember very little before 5 years old.
The problem with this theory, is they need to give a real good explanation for Luke abandoning a little girl with no one to look after her on a third world scavenger colony.
I think Luke didn't have to do with her abandonment. Maybe he's the Dad, but if he is the dad, then I don't think he knows.
Maybe it's a thing where her parents were planning to come right back but they were killed.
Maybe they were force sensitive and Snoke hunted them down.
+rpandya97 I started off as a fan and won't stop. "AMC" movie talk and Cinemasins were the first two channels I ever subscribed to on youtube in 2013 -- fun fact I won a contest under my real identity back when it was AMC movie talk
This is why Han should always shoot first.
hahhAHH+Jd Werman
at least he fed that dude to the rythan or whatever lol
nice.
Mark Ellis was IN Star Wars. He was that guy who had beef with Han.
+Temporal Mix Productions Yes he looks just like him.
When Ellis said "I didn't mind the CGI things with tentacles" it's cuz he was there to witness it happen
It's 'cause he lived, 'em, Ted! It's 'cause he lived the Star Wars!
By now everyone should know that wasn't Ellis, right? The actor's name is Brian Vernel.
WRONG. It was Mark Ellis. FACT.
I'm watching this back in 2019, what a special moment in time.
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Luke's the father - there was no mother...
haha, that's perfect
+herbiepop mother might be mara jade
+herbiepop you joke, but that's how it is...
He used the Force
+herbiepop What about "Dr. Kalonia" (Harriet Walter) tending to Chewie? Was there any srciptwriting reason to shove in a 20-second scene of a kind, early 50s woman connected in some way to the good-guys? Heck, IMDB shows her as fairly experienced actress.
You guys keep picking on Kylo not instantly finding Han.
Remember Return of the Jedi... Darth Vader couldn't find Luke when he was hiding in the shadows. The Force is not GPS.
Kylo only knew that Han was close. Why else would he send Stormtroopers to look for him?
If the Midichlorians were just playing a game of "Hot & Cold" in Kylo's head, then he would have said, "Follow me Stormtroopers. Han Solo is this way!"
+David Theriault Also, Kylo is not as trained in the force as Vader
kidkouga
True. But even if he was fully trained.
It's like Han said to Finn, "That's not how the Force works!"
+David Theriault Episode 7 went out of its way to show that Kylo is an unfinished product, so to speak. He isn't fully trained nor as powerful as he thinks he is. I love that, actually. He is going to be way more powerful in the films to come. Also, I would just like to point out that I also loved they didn't kill any of the villains.
+Vin Sessions Whole time I was watching Kylo I thought to myself "this dude is gonna get fucked up, he is gonna get a scar or something, c'mon give it to me give it to me" *SLASH!* "called it, now he is going to come back a total badass"
And even if kylo did no that Han was in the room, he was conflicted. He didn't know if he had the strength to kill his own father. So he pretended to not know Han was there hoping solo wouldn't reveal himself to him
But why did NO ONE mention how truly Badass it was seeing Kylo force stop the blaster shot mid-flight?!?! That was epically AWESOME!
+Andrés Vélez Wasn't able to spot that fast enough
+Taozen Ki LOVED THAT SCENE!
+Taozen Ki I love the fact how he did it so non-nonchalantly. Pretty awesome!
+Taozen Ki Yeah but why is Kylo so OP? What about him makes him so special? Is it that he is Leia's son? Or is it something bigger?
+Ch3 j0 some people can react in ways that can trick a Force user, even with blaster shots (AKA Jango Fett in the Clone Wars. Jango was known to be able to kill Jedi even with blaster pistols, simply because he could react in ways that weren't predictable to Force users. So Chewie probably going crazy over Han dying was too much for him to predict possibly, and Chewie was able to get through his defenses.)
Mark Ellis calling the Palpatine connection at 32:15! The best part is how quickly it's passed over in the conversation, because nobody expected that theory to come to fruition. :(
I need to watch it again. I went out of the movie theater and I couldn't stop smiling. I wanted to go back and watch it again so badly. I love seeing big movies on opening weekend because when you have a good audience watching it with you, it pumps you up even more and makes the viewing experience so fun. The movie has to be good too of course, and THIS freaking broke through my expectations. I tried to stay neutral for so long, and for the longest time I had that tiny thought in the back of my head that it might turn out to be like the prequels. I'm so glad. I can't contain myself right now.
I need...... to get some Force Awakens memorabilia.............
+Anime Fan I'm more hyped for the movie that comes after this one. Luke better train Rey and than he will teach her so many wise things like Yoda did and Snoke will hopefully be revealed some more because he was very vague in 7. The movie was great though, oh and #Fuckkylothetwatface
+Daan Barbian Who do you believe snoke to be?and,if he's plageis as people believe why didn't ren & hux address snoke as plageis?even sidious's true identity was known by his closest allys.
+m c New york Plagueis isn't the same as Sidious,Plagueis is a lot smarter and probably wants to keep his identity a secret until he knows he can trust someone enough to give his identity away.Perhaps when he completes Kylo Ren's training he'll tell him his history.(If he is Plagueis,which I think he is.)
+Anime Fan Now go back and watch the originals and see how much was ripped off.
Carrie Fisher is a great actress. I think if she overreacted to Han's death it would have taken me out of the movie. She is a general and can't afford to break down in front of everyone. Leia has always been the emotionally grounded character. I think her reaction was perfect
Agreed. I think Leia was exactly as I would have expected her to be. War weary. Exhausted and maybe jaded. She's the only one of the three leads who is still fighting and she was the only one fighting at the beginning of the franchise. She's the responsible one. As a result, she lost her man (husband?) and child (to the dark side) and her brother took off and has hid for over 20-25 years. Her first scene with Han was filled with emotion though they said little. Her eyes said everything. That is ACTING. Not sure what they expected. Sassy one liners and a gold bikini?
lol at great actress. She only known for playing princess leia. You can't name another movie she was a star in
+blackcobra1981 The Burbs, When Harry Met Sally, Blues Brothers, plus some TV appearances but yes, she is, like Hamill and Ford, best known for Star Wars. She has also famously fixed a lot of scripts in Hollywood and has written at least three successful novels, along with a one-woman play. She's smart, funny and talented.
+Glenn Crawford supporting roles. She is funny and smart but never had a movie when she was the main star
The problem with demanding me to bring up more examples is that you can get hired whether or not you are a capable actor. She could have easily been cast in another high profile film if she wanted to regardless of being a good actor or not. Bad actors get cast in roles all the time, it's not always a measure of how well you can act. I would say it was more of her personal choice to quit the acting scene. Mark Hamill is a great actor but is only known for his live action role of Skywalker. Ultimately whether or not you enjoyed her performance is up to you but in my opinion it's one of the reasons her character is so iconic. Especially after coming back to act after a lifetime of addiction which stifled her acting career to begin with and still be convincing.
If you played Knights of The Old Republic you are VERY familiar with the Jedi technique of selective memory wiping or re-assignment. The Jedi Council in KOTOR wiped the memory of Darth Revan to make him think he was just a regular Republic trooper so it is very possible that Luke did the same thing with Rey.
+Michael N I was thinking the same thing
+thegame346 I think the same thing happened with Finn. Leading up to Jakku, Finn was the top cadet in his group & Captain Phasma said that he would become an officer with the First Order. Something broke in his conditioning.
I'm going to do a video on this after I see it again tomorrow.
+thegame346 and Finn?
that's a good point. I hope they do they made her like John Cena.
+Toney Mitchell because he was 'kidnapped' from his parents....which could imply he was a jedi padawan (like in yaivin 4 EU) and was kicked out when luke shut things down and ended up captured somewhere and trained to be a stormtrooper. Po is not that much older than them and could explain his ridiculous skills as a pilot if he was part of the class. also could mean there are more out there who also had memories wiped, and they re going to round them up for the next big fight. Chewbacca's son Lowbacca was a padawan along with 3 solo's and ben (lukes son) amongst others, so they might cherrypick some more characters from lukes old class at the temple in the EU and rediscover them to take on the future knight'S of ren.
Me personally, I love this movie. So many vistas.
Stop doing drugs
i just saw the movie and the biggest WTF moment I had was when Ray and Princess Leia FINALLY met and they just stared and hugged eachother.......... how come no one else noticed that? isnt this the first time they've seen each other? how do they even know who each other are? everyone just didnt think about that. theres no way Ray could of known she was Princes Leia.. Leia might know she is Ray (or maybe even Lukes daughter)..
I think the idea was that they were sensitive to each other's sorrow. Everyone else was celebrating but they are both somber.
Leah lost Han, and Rey witnessed Han's death and was worried about Finn.
They may have also realized "this is the girl they talked about" and "this woman must be Ben's mother". But even if each one had no clue who the other was, they at least realized that they were both mourning.
Girls are more sensitive to stuff like that... And these girls are also sensitive to the Force.
So that's what was going on. ;-)
+WylunCustoms The hug could just be for Han's death, Rey brought Leia the bad news. Even if Leia knew about Rey the last time they met she was just a small child. Leia would sense the force was strong in her though during the hug IMHO
The weidest part about that scene was how she just walked right past chewy.
+Jack Conant LOL ya no shit! remember when Han got frozen.. they were hugging eachother like he was going to die... han actually dies and its like hey whats up Leia.. imma just walk right past you and celebrate with everyone else.. go cry w/ that girl over there who you "might not" know who it is.. and possibly the first time you ever met her. Han was just my best friend for dozens of years.. but no biggy
+WylunCustoms
That's true.
You'd think they would have a moment. Heh.
I've seen TFA twice now and I love it. For me I think Rey is Luke's daughter. For 1. Anakin, Luke, Rey are all ace pilots, can fix anything, the lightsaber handed down the family line,
the look that Rey gives at the end seems to me a daughter found her long lost father, those are the reasons for me.
I think it's possible that Luke is her dad. But if he is her dad, then they'll have to set it up that he didn't know about her, because otherwise he looks like a total scumbag for just abandoning her completely alone in a barren wasteland.
+Geek Owt Lowd Collider kinda sums it up with the whole protection from kylo ren, it's such a cliche move but I like it though.
Josh Pesek
That's a stretch. Because Luke was well hidden all this time until Rey's adulthood. So she would've been just as safe with him. Or any random place with good guardians.
Like I said... Whether it was for her safety, Luke can't easily be aware of it without looking neglectful.
What are you talking about John? Finn as a storm trooper had melee weapon training with those energy weapon things, and Rey already had melee skills with her staff.
+Jaz Veiga Plus he fought a storm trooper with that weapon earlier in the movie too.
but no storm trooper should give a jedi problems......ever
+thomas cocker And no one fought a real jedi so .... there you go.
Jedi trained.... He was able to hold the pilot in place easy enough with the force
+thomas cocker Why can't a stormtrooper give a jedi problems? it's not like they are useless droids.
Shills ?
Did anyone else notice that the part of Kylo Ren from the trailer walking in the woods wasn't in the movie? Also the hand off of the lightsabor from maz to the woman's hand.
yup.. the only 2 shots i didnt see that i kinda wished i did but- happens.. didnt spoil my experiences at all so whateves
In all honesty, I couldn't give less of a shit.
We didn't see it but we did hear it
+Hayden Burke Some of the shots I believe were made for the teaser, however I think some just didn't fit with the way the movie was edited. It's a fast movie and a lot of those shots really hang on the characters.
I was thinking this, I was looking for the the lightsaber in the woods, it seems weird that the lightsaber reveal had been produced for the trailer 1 year ago, but I guess we were introduced to the lightsaber earlier in the movie, so it may have lost its gravity
No mention of Kylo's cool powers?
Like the epic fact that he's the first character in the entire franchise to stop a blaster bolt in midair?
BloodyFlowerFilms
Or his knock out power he used on Rey or his torture powers...
I'm not sure he's the first who can stop a blaster bolt. I think he learned it from Snoke.
His force knockout and force freezing Poe and Rey only to walk up to them and talk/judge the fuck out of them was absolutely incredible to see.
The outdrawn sequence of him carrying Rey up to his ship instantly felt like a classic moment to me. Rey was in every way the damsel in distress, soon to be hidden away in a castle in the sky, but not long after that we found that there is more to her than meets the eye. The force was about to awaken.
+BloodyFlowerFilms Vader kind of did, he blocked Han's shots in Empire.
I was going to mention that but Vader didn't stop them in the air but I'm sure Lucas would've changed it to that if TFA didn't do it first.
btw I think Rey is Luke's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.... Which makes them absolutely nothing!
+Martin Zyka Nice Spaceballs reference! xD
Been waiting for this
+MigoTheGamer I really needed this review after watching Beyond the trailer.
These were the flaws I had with the film:
1. Rey's affinity and grasp of the force was too abrupt. She can just all of a sudden Jedi mind trick a Storm Trooper, resist Kylo and even overpower him. I wish they had alluded to her latent Force abilities a little more earlier throughout the film like when she was exchanging parts for example. I wish they would have shown Rey somehow persuade the alien to give her more rations. I thought that was a missed opportunity.
2. I thought they should have revealed Kylo's face for the first time when he was confronted by Han and not when he was interrogating Rey. I feel like it would have been more impactful if you saw his face for the first time during his emotional scene with Han.
3. Phasma was extremely underused. I thought she should have had a bigger role in the film. All she did was take down the shields and then sent to the trash compacter. (I don't think she's dead, so there's still a chance that we will see more of her in the next 2 films)
4. I don't think Han was mourned enough after his death. They could have at least held a funeral for him or something to honor him, but they just flew past it.
5. Luke was literally in the movie for less than 60 seconds. The guy didn't even have a single line. Now I know why they didn't show him in any of the trailers since he's barely in it.
Still, despite these flaws I had a great time watching the movie. It's by no means flawless but it's really enjoyable. 8/10
Yeah that lightsaber battle was disappointing....I felt that fight took me out of the film....mainly because there is no way Rey should have been able to hold her own against a fully trained knight of Ren....she never wielded a light saber in her life and she just began to tap into her powers....there is no effing way she have bested Kylo. JJ dropped the ball on that one.
+Milton W but she was a master whit the staf so why cant she be use a ligthsaber and Kylo Ren is not full trained but Snoke wil trained him ful now
Nicklas Nielsen again...she is capable enough of fighting off regular people with a staff but a knight of ren? Come on....she just discovered her powers and now she can fight a warrior who has been training since he was a kid...it's bullshit my friend
+pubixcube27 Kathleen Kennedy confirmed that Phasma returns in Ep VIII
Yeah I agree rey shouldn't of been able to beat kylo but remember what chewies bowcaster did to a stormtrooper? Sent them flying back 5 meters kylo got one of them In the stomach and still tried to fight ! Next movie will be him smashing the resistance pretty much a spin of empire first order strikes back haha
Mark Ellis called it from Day 1! 32:18
I'm actually SHOCKED that Leia wasn't trained as a Jedi at all. She's obviously Force sensitive. Why would Luke have not taught her a thing or two?
+MagCynic Maybe she didn't want to. But It'll be amazing if in the next episodes there's a moment where she does some amazing Force shit out of nowhere and just YASS
+MagCynic She was using her powers to lead.
Gordon Skyler She's not Bastila Shan from Knights of the Old Republic.
+MagCynic Pf, Rei needed no training for instance.
At the end Leia will realise she has powers too and will defeat Snoke with a fingersnap.
I think next movie is return of the Jedi Order so she and others should be trained then. They kinda set up the need for the Jedi Order after the Republic attack.
Rey should not have won that fight. She was too powerful right off the bat.
omg I agree....I felt that fight took me out of the film....mainly because there is no way Rey should have been able to hold her own against a fully trained knight of Ren....she never wielded a light saber in her life and she just began to tap into her powers....there is no effing way she have bested Kylo. JJ dropped the ball on that one.
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MJ Moallem hahaha that's so great...I almost pissed myself because of your comment lol
+Milton W Yeah agreed that fight really took me out of the film too. But to me it's more of a story writing issue. I wish to see more of a progression from Rey rather than kicking massive ass in the very first film. It also makes Kylo seem like a weak villain. Wish they had gone into a draw instead of Rey beating him. Plus the way they executed it was kinda cheap - she felt the force and suddenly kicked his ass. Would've liked it a lot more if the writers came up with a more creative way for Rey to win. Tbh I find it to be quite unfortunate as I enjoyed the rest of this movie a lot. But this being the climax scene hurt the movie quite a bit for me.
Kylo had been shot by a Bowcaster shown to instantly kill anything it shoots, was fighting in an emotional state, and Rey had already been shown to be a good fighter.
This fight was totally believable.
My theory:
1. rey is luke's daughter
2. luke does not know that he has a daughter (luke got a girl pregnant and she kept it a secret from him, kind of like how darth vader didnt know about his daughter for a long time)
+Zbigniew Zabinski i agree with this. this explains why luke didnt give her such a warm greeting at the end like a father would. also, so many things point to this.
- her seeing luke in her flashback
- her vision when going to sleep every night: an island surrounded by vast ocean (the location of luke)
- maz kanata knowing her eyes
- the lightsaber calling to her (a skywalker)
- her growing up on a desert planet/being a good pilot
- why she is so strong with the force
+Zbigniew Zabinski good points. i just think that she has to be a skywalker. the star wars movies have always focused on the skywalkers and i think that the continuity is essential to the storyline. If rey is a skywalker it immediately brings so much power and legend to her character. There is so much history to the lineage, it needs to continue (in another way besides kylo ren). if she is not a skywalker i will be extremely disappointed and saddened
+Zbigniew Zabinski how would she know luke and feel so connected with him if she wasn't his daughter (she saw him in her force vision when she picked up the lightsaber) maz kanata seems to know that she's his daughter
+Zbigniew Zabinski plus, think back to the original teaser trailer where it just has look saying: "the force is strong in my family... i have it.. my sister have it.. you have that power too"..... i think that's proof that she's his daughter right there, before you ever see the movie. if she isn't i have no idea why they would do that. it just seems like a poor way to deceive you if in fact she isn't his daughter.
+Jayrayis Yasidals Okay here is my take on this whole thing. I will try to do this in order so it makes sense to everyone. I hope it does. I am sorry if it does not because it is kinda complicated.
First. In Mas Kanata's bar, at the table, Finn talks about running and walks away. Rey gets up and goes after him. Now right after that Mas leans over and says to Han "Who's the girl?" and the inflection in her voice is not out of curiosity because she's cute but as if to say - "Is she who I think she is?" Then the scene cuts immediately to Finn and Rey.
It is what is not said that is most interesting. Han doesn't say "She's just some girl we found." there is NO response from Han to that question at all in fact. During the scene where Finn is revealing to Rey who he really is, enough time elapses for Han to say something along the lines of "She is Rey, the daughter of Luke Skywalker." to which Maz would say something like "Then the time has come" and Han would reply "She doesn't know who she is" and I could see Maz replying "Then we must open her eyes".
I do not think the sabre actually gave her the vision and here is why. I believe that it was Maz, right after that unseen exchange with Han, that made her hear the sound of the kid downstairs. It was Maz that put the vision in her head because right after the vision ends Maz is behind her. She even says "I am no Jedi but I know the force.."
Now Star wars has always been told in two ways. The dialogue, and the music. Key characters have always had very specific themes. Vader had the Imperial March, Liea's theme is obvious, as is Luke's. They played Lukes theme when Maz was telling her about the light in her.
That theme also plays towards the end when Rey pulls the lightsabre to her and ignites it. John Williams being the genius he is would have given her a unique theme of her own if she were not the daughter of Luke.
Lastly her name. I would not put it past Lawrence and JJ to go even deeper into the hidden meaning there. Ep. IV was titled "A New Hope." Luke was the "New Hope" and Rey (Pronounced "Ray") could be considered a "Ray of Hope". I may be reaching on this one but it sounds cool.
Oh and speaking of the music score. In order to also settle the issue of who Snoke is. Go back and look at the scene in Ep. III where Palpatine tells Anakin the Story of Darth Plagieus. There is a Theme being played it is a low choir going AWWWWWWW etc. Now when we see Snoke we hear that same theme or a very very similar one. SO I have no doubt based that, that Snoke is Plagieus. I guess all my years studying film making has paid off. lol Maybe I could be on the Collider Jedi Council. lol jk.
What if Kylo killed Luke's wife/Rey's mother
I really like what you said but in some other comment somebody said (theory) that Luke got somebody pregnant with Rey but Luke didn't know he did and the woman left Rey on that sand planet, that's why Luke's reaction was like it was at the end of the movie.
These two can still go together and then maybe Luke told the women to leave Rey on the sand planet and after she left Ray there Kylo killed her and Luke didn't know if she left Rey or not so he thought that Rey might be dead, that would explain Luke's reaction.
+CloudDesiigns not a bad theory
+Aaron Kuffel Thanks, yeah it feels like something that could work
What if Kylo IS Rey's mother?
+CloudDesiigns Yeah, but she has a doll that looks like Luke, and she also has Luke's rebellion pilot helmet.
Schnepp on the redeeming of Kylo Ren: “He’ll do something like pick up the Emperor and throw him down a pit.”
Fast forward to Episode 9.
The Emperor picks up Kylo and throws him down a pit haha.
Lol so true
My main gripe: Wish Snoke was different (and not obviously CGI). He looks like a LOTR reject.
good thing he is motion capture
+ethan sementelli motion capture is great when used right, but Snoke is too humanoid, it puts the character into the uncanny valley.
ethan sementelli
Not sure what you're getting at.
+RP FS2 I'm saying we actually don't know what he looks like in person, and serkis is voicing it
+RP FS2 FACTS !! he looked like shit lol
Rey's definitely Luke's kid. There's too may parallel to her story and to Luke's story for her NOT to be Luke's daughter. At the beginning, we see that she's living in a fallen AT AT, reminiscent to how Luke uses the tauntaun to survive on Hoth. The fact that Jakku is similar to Tatooine, and Rey was put on Jakku much like Luke was placed on Tatooine, she has the same "wonder-like" personality like Luke She's a gifted pilot, much like Anakin, and her connection to the Force is just as strong. I think Rey's represents what Anakin would've turned out if he were to stay on the Light Side. The story of Star Wars is the story of the Skywalker lineage. It wouldn't make much sense if Rey wasn't Luke's kid.
MikeRotch
nah...as strong as she is, he would've try to keep her and train her instead of Ben (Kylo). Now, is she was kidnapped by someone to protect her from Snoke, then I can see it as a possibility.
+MouseCrusader I would be surprised if she wasn't Luke's kid and not in good way, you're right it would make more sense for Rey to be Luke's daughter. However, I think Rey should be Star Wars answer to the Man With No Name, have her background shrouded in mystery until episode 9. Also,if Rey is the daughter of Luke then who exactly was Rey's mother? What if Rey's mother was a Sith? I don't think we've ever seen child of both a Sith and a Jedi before and it would make Star Wars lineage very different from what we've seen before.
+Christian “DisneyFan365” Esmerio You mean his daughter.
+MouseCrusader I agree with Mark though that them making it so obvious might be a way to mislead us and turns out she is not Luke's kid. Aside from that her being Luke's daughter has a higher chance I think.
+MouseCrusader , Lukes Theme played when she called the lightsaber to her hand. Luke had Tears in his eyes when he saw her. I agree there is too many hints at it.
Just real quick before the video starts, I absolutely adored this movie. It met and exceeded all my expectations. After seeing it twice, I'd give it a 9.5/10. My only issue was that Starkiller base was basically just another death-star, and that kinda bothered me. Beyond that, and the fact that it might parallel episode 4 a tad too much at times, it's perfect. The overall story and the exit of Han was handled brilliantly. The best part of the entire film was the new cast, I mean, my god! I looooove all these new characters so much and cannot wait to see more of them. I thought it was incredible how they didn't just show us everything and lay everything out on the table. Just like in the first one, if you're watching it for the first time you don't know everything right off the bat, it takes 2 other movies to make that story fully fleshed out. I love how they're clearly playing the long game and I cannot wait to see what Johnson has in store for episode 8. JJ knocked it out of the park
Also, this had (hands down) the best final scene in any Star Wars movie
I also loved this movie and give it a 9/10. I'm ok with that it paralleled ep 4 at times but I think it's a good way to introduce a new generation of fans to Star Wars the same way we fell in love with the original all those years ago.
The only problems I had was how easy it was for them to enter then breakout and reenter then breakout again so easily. I also didn't like how Phasma buckled so easily to deactivate the shield. All in all this movie was epic.
+sinister kiid i'd give it an 8. i know 8 sounds bad. but in a scale of 1-5 that's a solid 4/5. still awesometacular. million billion things wrong with this one, but the ones it gets right, outshines all the faults.
#Worstdeathever
+sinister kiid
Agreed in all points! Really looking forward to Episode VIII and seeing TFA multiple times in cinema! :)
I miss this crew together
🍻 cheers
yeah, me too
I was born in 1991, but didn't see A New Hope until around 2001 or so. Never saw Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi until recently. I've seen Episode I, II, and III when they came out, but never really showed interest in them as a kid. I liked The Force Awakens a lot more compared to the previous movies, maybe because it's more modern. I can definitely say that Episode VII has gotten me a bit more interested in the Star Wars universe, especially with the villain Kylo Ren being played extremely well by Adam Driver. Every line that he delivered I can feel the hated that's pouring out of this guy. I'm not completely geeking out over star wars like the hardcore fans but, now I'm a little more excited for future Star War movies!
I think there is more to the Han Solo death scene and Leia's reaction to it than we were told in this movie. I got a distinct feeling that Han knew he would not get out of this one alive, and that his talk with Leia was just both of them keeping up appearances, when they both knew this was a one way ticket for Han.
I'll even take it one further and say that I don't think Kylo/Ben killing Han was as obvious as you think - I actually think that Han let or even helped Ben kill him, possibly believing that in the long run it would factor in his son's salvation.
It mirrored Obi Wans death at the hands of Vader. One thing was different though. After he was stabbed the last thing Han did was lovingly caress his sins face before he died.
+mreime I feel as if Han had given up hope but because Leia feels there's still good in him Han feels obligated to try one last time even though he doesn't believe it'll do any help because he feels he owes that to Leia.
+PlumbPitiful yes, if anything, that moment might come back to haunt Kylo in the future! The feeling that he was loved by his father and by that being "tempted by the light side"
I hated the film, it felt too much like a fan fiction rather than a proper Star Wars film
+Joseph Reilly Ive seen it twice. didn't care for it either viewing
+Critic Nation Yes. I hated it to
I liked the movie personally, but I agree about the fan fiction thing :/.
+Critic Nation It was like a parody of Star Wars.
Ray is Lukes daughter, when she touched vader's old lightsaber it triggered that force vision, and when it got to the point were she was a kid and dropped off pay attention to the voice that belongs hand holding her by the arm, its the old man from the beginning the "to me she is royalty" he was obviously sent there to look after Ray. and who gave the map to Luke in the first point the old man.
+Krush thank you for this, i couldn't remember the voice but I like the idea that its connected
krush. i think the voice of the guy they left Rey with was actually the spare parts dealer that she kept selling stuff to.
+csquare111 it was a human hand that was holding on to her, the spare parts dealer was not human and his hand would take up alot more space in the shot as he was much bigger than a human
+Krush why did Luke not have the same premonition when he touched his Father's light saber?
One thing that everyone is missing, these movies are the still the Skywalker Saga, it would make no sense to make her so powerful and important and not be a Skywalker.
+michael robinson Unless she's a Kenobi :D!! It makes no sense and its probably not the case but i really really want it to be true. I wanna see a Kenobi trained Skywalker, train a Kenobi to fight another Skywalker. its Poetry, kinda.
she could become a Skywalker thru "adoption". If she's not biologically a Skywalker and her parents never come back, then Luke would become her Dad in essence, and Leah like an Aunt.
Skywalkers don't all have to be biological offspring.
+Geek Owt Lowd I'm actually hoping that Luke is Rey's step-dad as that would be a very interesting dynamic.
+Saphiria TheBlueDragonKnight Ya. That would be different.
I'm still kinda leaning to unknown parents. It would give the message of "it doesn't matter where you come from" and it would also save us from extra exposition about her past and any potential nitpicks about any "I am your father" type reveals, or more paralleling the OT.
Kylo Ren is a Skywalker though his mother. But yah, I totally think Rey is also a Skywalker and probably Luke's daughter
If Rey is Luke's daughter, could Luke's wife could have been one of the other apprentices that Kylo killed when he fell to the Dark Side.
Would explain why she wasn't around
+Christian Jones And would explain why Luke wants nothing to do with redeeming him or seeking him out. Not a terrible theory.
I like this idea. Only problem I would have is that is would take away from the impact of killing Han. That was the point where he became fully dark because he killed his own family. But if he killed Luke's wife then that means he's already killed a relative. Nonetheless a good theory.
+rpandya97 Didn't he already kill the other apprentices ? Killing Han was a big deal but it's not like he was a saint before...
+Michel van der Molen Agreed
Best reveal was that Daniel Craig was the storm trooper that fell to Rey's JEdi Mind trick
Star Wars the force awakens was great
Agree !! :D
Good... next ones can be better.
rose yildiz man I did not see the movie yet
oasisbeyond No, it was great, don't be a fuck face
fuckin a, this was the absolute best version of episode 7 we were ever going to get, especially after Disney bought the franchise. that alone put so much pressure on the success of this film that the fact we got something as good as we did is medal-worthy
I love the cameos. the stormtrooper that got mind tricked was Daniel Craig. lol. And the voice in Reys force vision that says "Rey" is Ewan McGregor. Which leads me to the theory I have that Rey might be related to Obi-wan.
+Noah Cocke Actually, though we are finding out that Ewan did come by to record a few seconds for that scene, did you know that it is actually Alec Guiness that said "Rey"? I was reading an interview with Abrams where he said a sound engineer found where Guiness said the word "afraid" and managed to get cut it to get the word "Rey" out of it. So both McGregor and Guiness can be heard in that Force vision.
+Peter Aguilar oh see I read it was the guy that does obiwan in the clone wars. then they replaced him with ewan.
+Noah Cocke By that logic, child of Yoda she might be. Returned, Frank Oz has, to voice a line as well.
It can't be Obi-Wan's cuz he is a true Jedi and "A Jedi knows no love", remember?
***** Nah
The irony with this movie is that we all thought they were being coy and hiding so much in the trailer but then after watching the film I realized there wasn't many big reveals. We still have no confirmation who Rey is. No idea who the knights of Ren are. No idea who Snoke is. No idea how the First Order and Resistance rank in terms of structure of the government. No idea what's been going on with Luke. Fans have waited more than 30 years to go on another adventure with Luke Skywalker and Lucas Film basically gave everyone the middle finger and said you can keep waiting.
+Steven Davis U NAILED
Gave the middle finger ? Really ??
What are they suppose to do, watch mark and Carrie and Harrison walking with canes !!! This has to be about passing the torch and setting up the next infinite amount of films. Sorry , very much disagree with your assessment
Hey you forgot to mention that Mark Ellis was in the movie on the Han Solo cargo ship scene!!! :DDD
+tomisztube haha.. I thought the same thing..
OMG YES I NOTICED THAT TOO!
+tomisztube YES! i noticed that too haha
Watching this in 2020, great memories with a great crew. I miss this so much.
❤️
If the rumors of an Anakin force ghost in episode 8 are true, maybe that's how we find out that Snoke is Plagueis. I could be way off, but I think it's entirely possible for it to go down that way.
+Timothy Platte I thought the same thing. Also, it would be very interesting for Anakin to actually communicate with Kylo Ren. Anakin really could have come full circle if he can play a part in bringing his grandson back to the light. There's such a place for Anakin in these sequels and I really hope he turns up.
That would be sweet.
+Timothy Platte So they just change Plagueis's spices ??
+GettingBlazedn Geeky Well, Darth Plagueis has never appeared in the films, and the Expanded Universe is no longer canon, so they can do anything they want with Plagueis.
So ...who would you like to play his role?
I'd rather Luke bring him back to the light ...by way of a sabre battle between he and Snoke. A kind of a "kill Snoke ...and you have a better chance of saving Kylo" angle.
Yet, secretly ....I'd much prefer Luke kicking his ASS, once he has his "feels" about Han being murdered, confirmed by Ray...
I wonder if Gwen Christie during interviews felt a bit awkward knowing how little she does in the movie.
She had had less impact on the plot than that stormtrooper who got mind controlled! Where are HIS interviews?!
+KRYMauL That stormtrooper was Daniel Craig. Look it up. I'm not lying.
BloodyFlowerFilms I wonder if he got punished, and during his torture scene begged Kylo Ren to scratch his balls.
+superhamzah85 Obviously that stormtrooper was none other than JAMES BOND. OO7 BETTER GET A MEMORABLE ROLE.
But I have to add I really wish Danish Craig got to fire the blaster on screen as well COME ON THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO COOL seeing JB007 fire his blaster at HAN SOLO. Considering how Sean Connery got to be in a indy movie it just would have been show stopper moment to have bond in another iconic Harrison movie.
Well she's signed on for VIII
+superhamzah85 I think she is suppose to be the new Boba Fett but this time they are going to do this type of character justice in the upcoming VIII. I think we are going to see why exactly she is the captain of the stormtroopers and why she was so feared by Finn and the rest. Honestly though, I think her complying so easily to their demands was because of a Wookie standing over her who everyone knows one-on-one kills anybody not a Jedi/Sith.
SPOILER (if needed in a spoiler video comment section)
I think Rey is Luke's Daughter and here is why:
1. Rey sees Luke and R2-D2 in the Flashback
(possibly Luke hide the map to where he was so that his Daughter (Rey) can find him when she is Ready. Why else would R2 have the map)
2. R2-D2 was inactive since Luke went missing (waiting for Rey)
3. R2 activated himself when Rey was at the Base.
What do u guys Think
That's my big question also, what triggered R2?
I love the theory, but how cool would it be if she was Snoke's daughter XD
+Vepar90 unless he is really human and the hologram is just a disguise... Not sure how that would be possible.
That being said, no one would see it coming and would make the light VS the dark fight extremely complicated in a good way.
im with you also the old guy on jakku maybe had the responsibility cause he had the map for Luke's location
Been saying this since yesterday, glad someone else caught it.
It's funny how much has changed since this review. Kristian no longer believes Rey is Luke's daughter, thankfully. If she's anyone special, she's a Kenobi. Can't wait to see Rogue One.
Lol
As much as I liked this movie, I just can't get behind Domhall Gleeson's Hux character. He tried too hard to be Tarkin/Hitler and it was too over the top for me, almost comical.
I liked him
+Raffaele Esposito I really enjoyed his speech
Well you are wrong
+Raffaele Esposito I've never seen him as a particularly good actor though. He was dreadful in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, and I wasn't feeling very convinced by him in this either. His speech was good though, and gave me chills slightly. It was pretty evil.
David James No. He is a fantastic actor.
Think Kylo is going to go crazy when he finds out Snoke wants Rey as she's more powerful. So he sacrificed his father for no reason.
+Kutlu Mızrak indeed
+geromino97 No
+geromino97 there force isn't some gene you get it chooses you.
+Bengali Boi Great original thought Ben.. Kylo is already very insecure, that's a very astute prediction!
As a Star Wars movie: 8/10. As a movie: 5/10. Deal with it, fanboys.
+Armand E. I have it the opposite, as a movie 7.5/10, as star wars 3/10. They got so many things wrong in terms of pace, canon, and tone compared to the OT and even the prequels
+Joshua Paulson agreed
I think the same. I mean i love the movie, but thinking about it i love it because its basically fanservice. Simple plot, a copy of episode IV, rey is perfect at everything...too many problems
+Joshua Paulson What did it got wrong? I even thought it fixed a lot of things the prequels did wrong. The pace was great to me, as well as the tone. I don't know what it got wrong from the canon. Can you explain?
+Armand E. I actually have the opposite. If there's no Episode 4 this movie was brilliant and very well made. But because its a Star Wars sequel, I'm so disappointed we didnt get anything new.
Finally one month later after vaccation I have finally seen the Movie! I avoided all spoilers YEAH!!!
+Ahturo s (Ahturos) You're so lucky. I wish I saw it before some people started spoiling a certain scene in the movie, which I won't mention in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.
+Mr. GameCrazy Yeah I trully was lucky. I accidently saw some videos that I thought spoiled things for me but they were just fan theories and such so I had really no idea what anything was, I knew only about Han, Chewe, Leia, Rey and Finn and no one else so everything was a suprise. I did´t know what Snook was, I knew nothing about Phasma or even what weapon they were gonna use.
Hey you! Yeah, *you*. What are you doing scrolling down thi.....oh, right, this is the Spoiler Review. Carry on.
Kylo Ren is by far one of the most interesting characters in the franchise. When Rey says something like, "you are afraid of never being as good as Darth Vader" This also has a metalinguistic power. It's the franchise talking to itself. Doubting of itself. Kylo Ren represents the new movies and Darth Vader, the original movies. The Kylo Ren's doubt is the same that surround the ability of Star Wars to renew itself. JJ Abrams probably predicted this discussion. This means that Kylo is a deliberately unstable and conflicting character. JJ has a huge respect for the original trilogy and for the saga itself! Thank you, man!!
Adam Driver was awesome !!
I actually hated the movie, I'm kinda surprised the reaction is so positive cause I though Phantom Menace had more redeeming qualities.
Don't kill me.
*killed*
I respect your opinion
+ottobord Dude if you hated the movie that's your opinion, i can understand that, but , to say Phantom Menace had more redeeming qualities, you have to be mental
it completely underwhelmed me
RLM sent me.....this video is so cringe.
Also, I thought the dialogue between Leia and Solo when they're discussing their son, was pretty bad. It was so obviously expositional. The scene felt like they were talking to the audience for people who forgot what was going on. I thought it was an unnecessary conversation
It was necessary but could've been handled better
I agree on this one. Leia's line about "It was Snoke.." Etc. was not great
I saw Ellis in the movie. Like if you know which character I'm talking about.
+Wine School101 ding ding ding!
+mrequis2012 AS i was watching i thought the exact same thing... but nobody i was watching with watches jedi council sooo i had no one to mention it to lol
Haha yes, i genuinely thought it was Ellis until he started talking.
Hahahaha
So happy others noticed! Thanks for bringing it up I would never have for assuming people wouldn't know what the heck I was talking about
I liked the movie but didnt love it....alot of plot holes and we needed more explanation. the music wasn't that great either.....i felt the lightsaber fight took me out of the film....mainly because there is no way Rey should have been able to hold her own against a fully trained knight of Ren....she never wielded a light saber in her life and she just began to tap into her powers....there is no effing way she have bested Kylo. yes I know Rey can defend Herself but again there is no ok way she should have won. thats like darth vader losing to kanan or ezra! JJ dropped the ball on that one.
He's not fully trained though, he's really unpolished and also a conflicted character who is not fully dark, you hear at the end when snoke says he wants to finish Kylo's training.
+Jim Bobbbs I agree...but luke also trained him too...he is leaps and bounds ahead of rey whenever it comes to skill and force powers...I'm sorry I don't buy it!
how do u know for sure she never wielded a lightsaber before?
+Milton W To be fair, though, he was already injured by both Chewie and Finn. I'd figure were he fully intact, he'd have beaten the crap out of Rey.
+KingKien95 the movie clearly Indicates that....she was amazed to see the lightsaber at first glance and then whenever she touched it she had that vision which scared the hell out of her...plus in that same vision we see that her parents left her behind...she was clearly overwhelmed by the sight and touch of the weapon
Rest In Peace John Schnepp. We all miss you so much
The unbiased and unfilitered opinions... AND Mark.
The one thing that really makes me think Snoke could be Plagueis is actually John Williams' approach to scoring his scenes. Listen to the track "Snoke" and then listen to Revenge of the Sith's "Palpatine's Teachings"... very evocative of the scene in which Palpatine discusses the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise.
yes,Yes,YES thank you this what I have been saying
That's exactly what I thought as well when I heard "Snoke" it immediately invoked that track from episode 3. John Williams wouldn't have given Snoke that musical cue for nothing. Me thinks Mr. Williams knows more about Snoke than all of us.
We all watch Jedi Council don't we?
+BloodyFlowerFilms Was that connection mentioned on this week's? I haven't watched yet.
I always thought the chorus of low deep voices in that scene in Sith was actually meant to be part of that alien sperm water ballet thing they were watching and not part of the actual soundtrack
Did I miss something? How did Kylo Ren, General Hux and Captain Phasma even get off off the planet before it was destroyed?
+Jim Delahunty One of the First Order officers said something like Hux already ran...
+Edward Branscomb thanks, Ill watch for that on second viewing
+Edward Branscomb the next scene was hux talking to snoke.. So I don't think he'd left by then
+Jim Delahunty Majic?,..Cuz there wasn't much force in the movie at all
+Jim Delahunty PLOT TWIST..... they didn´t
What if Rey was actually Luke's student who was turning to the dark side so Luke dropped took her away and swiped her mind. Ben Solo then turned to Snoke to continue his training; as he was good student who survived. Just a thought. im probably wrong lol. casual star wars fan
+Fahid Choudry OMG finally someone who has the same thought as me! After watching this movie 3 times, I am also convinced that Rey is the Luke's student who killed all his students and Ben Solo was the one who escaped. I mean Kylo Ren has so much emotion struggles being a Sith, how could he be the one who slaughtered Luke's students? In Rey's flashback, the person who killed Luke's students was not holding Kylo Ren's lightsaber. It could be Rey and that totally explains why Luke altered her memory.
Also might explain when Rey closes her eyes she is getting her memories back from the limited training she received and the force that has been bottling inside her and waiting to "awaken". I have only seen the movie once and I am only a casual fan but this is the first theory that came to my mind. Rey was my favorite thing about the Force Awakens, especially her emotional outbursts. I want to see Kylo Ren struggle to keep the light side out and Rey struggle to keep the dark side out. I also wonder what happen to the people Rey was left with. Could she have killed them and then lived in loneliness. That loneliness and struggle then kept her "clean" and "humble". Also could help explain the slow and reserved reaction from Luke at the end of the film. Also, Reys reluctance to take up the light saber as well as her strength.
Fahid Choudry
Wow, the idea of Kylo Ren struggling light side and Rey struggling Dark Side is absolutely amazing. I would be very disappointed if Disney shoved us down 'Rey is Luke's daughter' to explain everything.
Got to explain where she got the force from. If not Luke, then perhaps from a Sith. Would be a good shout.
+Fahid Choudry reserved reaction? Luke was clearly pissed to she her, and part of it might be cause of the grave he was standing over. Did she kill someone close to him that is buried there?
I'm very disappointed at my favorite movie review show, selling out. This movie wasn't as good as ROTS. John you give Hayden much grief, but praise "layers" of Driver? It's laughable. He was beaten by a girl who didn't even know how to fire a blaster much less hold a lightsaber.
Kylo was trained by Luke and Snoak and takes a beating from a girl who doesn't know anyth I bg? No training. hey if that works for you then cool. Hayden isn't my favorite but he was believable to me. Seeing my brother/best friend come off my woman's ship? Don't forget all the lies the Jedi Order told Anakin and Luke for that matter. The first 2 acts they built Kylo to be something different, maybe a second watch I'll be more objective
To say the ROTS is better is pretty far off. Hayden makes me want to fast forward through any Anakin dialogue.
+Kenn Smith So because Kylo Ren was beaten by Rey, Adam Driver can't act? I don't think you know how movies work.
No I'm saying I don't like the character or where the narrative is going. And Ren losing to a girl doesn't bother me, just don't think they built it up enough. Hey don't know how movies "work" but if you like how they let Han die to a cry baby? Cool you got it!
I'm confused so is Snoke Darth Plagueis or not? Hes facial features look very similar to the race that he is.
And i bet that they made his face just so that it looks similar enough to that so that we could speculate more.
We don't know anything about Snoke yet. We won't find out until Episode VIII, or maybe even Episode IX.
+8bit chess I think he is palpatine. If he isn't palpatine, I would bet he is a S.ith N.o O.ne K.nows E.xisted. But I would put money on it being Palpatine or that Sidious/Palpatine/Plagueis are the same person. Sith, after all, are deceivers.
J K Hey, that's actually a really cool idea.
J K No. Palpatines master was plagueis. Your theory makes no sense
8bit chess His idea of SNOKE being a Sith No One Knows Exists is pretty slick. The first letter of each word spells SNOKE.
Saw the movie last night in IMAX 70mm and I am totally disappointed. I utterly hated that movie, probably even more than I did the prequels. Before you guys label me as a curmudgeon, please listen to my reasons as to why.
This movie relies completely and utterly on nostalgia, and it does so in the laziest of ways. The movie leads the audience into feeling a certain way when certain “old cast” characters are on the screen. Ok cool Han Solo and Chewbacca are back together on screen... that's nice, but what are they going to do. Seeing Harrison Ford on screen should not be the pinnacle of excitement for the movie. When “Chewy were Home” is the type of thing that is meant to get the crowd really excited and that's it,t hen you didn't make another episode installment, you just filmed a cast reunion.
The most utterly painful moments of the movie are when Carrie Fisher is on screen. She looks horrible and the fact that she has not acted in 20+ years is more than apparent. Her lines of dialogue are cringe worthy and I really don't quite understand her character. Really all Leia's position is, is General of the Resistance. After the cliff hanger at the end of Return Of the Jedi and all the Yoda prophecy about “there is another” and Luke telling her “you will learn the ways of the Force” your telling me after 30 years all she is is a General of the Resistance and we hear no talk of her being a Jedi? To me that kind of ruins what Yoda and Obi Wan discussed.
What the heck is the deal with Captain Phasma? Your most interesting and cool looking character is not utilized at all? She does nothing in the movie, and what bothers me it that Gwendoline Christie said in interviews that Phasma is a better shot than the Stormtroopers yet she never fires at all in the movie. It was a complete waist to put Phasma in the movie. I guess they just needed another female character and needed and extra action figure to sell.
Build up for the Knights of Ren yet we get absolutely no development and all we get is one shot of them that we already saw in the trailers.
C3P0's Red arm only gets a passing reference and nothing in depth.
The scene with the 2 gangs confronting Han Solo on the Falcon is so bad. Not only is the acting from the gangs terrible and uninteresting, bit the scene where a random monster starts attacking has absolutely no impact and has horrendous CGI.
Finn's reason for changing sides was so weak. What was special about him that he felt affected by the violence of the First Order more than other Storm-troopers? This lack of in depth explanation and clarity, really hurt the movie in this area and others.
This movie does nothing to make the Star Wars Universe feel bigger. In the original trilogy every single movie had new new creatures and planets making the Galaxy feel very big. Obi Wan traveling with Luke on Tatooine we see many different creatures walking amongst them. In this movie the only time we see anything close to this is in the bar scene when we see different creatures, But this is so swift we barely can tell what is going on. I guess you could say the one big “cow type” looking thing drinking the water with Finn on Jakku, was a new addition to star wars wildlife, but if that is all you have to showcase in the vast world George Lucas created, then you don't understand the atmosphere of Star Wars.
This movie desperately needed more of Luke Skywalker. The lack of Jedi presence in this film made it feel like it totally ignored the Force atmosphere the prequels did well. The use of the “Force” in this movie felt so out of place and well forced (pun intended). It did not feel like a natural “awakening” of the Force. A true Jedi being a big part of the film could have remedied this because they exude the Force so well. I personally would have liked to see Luke at the beginning of the film in a sort of flashback, showing him training Kylo Ren and how Ren fell away from him into the dark-side. Not only would this clear up the the lack of clarity to how Kylo became a Sith, but it would bring more of a Jedi presence to film, while keeping the plot of “searching for Luke” intact.
Seriously the reveal of Luke at the end was so weak. First of all after the rumors of him finding a Jedi temple all we see is him standing on this barren mountain? There literally was nothing else around...... just Luke on a mountain was very corny to me. Also the forced emotionality in the last shot with Rey holding out the light-saber was very annoying. I was like “when is he gonna force grab that light-saber form her”? Is she just gonna stand there emotionally holding the saber out there forever until her rotater cuff snaps? There has to be a better way to end the movie.
This movie completely and utterly ruined the integrity of light-saber duels. Not only was the light-saber duel we got in the movie poorly choreographed, dull, and unexciting, but it threw away all precedent. The fact that Finn and untrained former Storm-trooper, who didn't even know what a light-saber was, could stand 1 second with Kylo Ren who was trained by both Snoke (who we presume is Plageuis) and Luke Skywalker, completely ruins any integrity duels have. Just for perspective in Revenge of the Sith Kit Fisto a fully trained Jedi Master on the Jedi Council was taken out by Palpatine in a second during his arrest scene. Yet in this movie I am meant to believe that Finn a former Storm-trooper without any Force powers, and even Rey a girl who is untrained and just learned the Force basically that day, could stand even 1 second in a battle with someone trained by Luke one of the most powerful Jedi ever, and Snoke who probably trained Palpatine. This type of clear deviation from what could be seen as realistic from what we now about the characters not only confuses the audience but it effectively ruined the presence that Kylo Ren had as a powerful character. One of the positives of the movie was Kylo Ren. Adam driver will be a star because his acting was superb, but they ruined the character in the second half on the movie. By allowing both Finn and Rey to survive a duel with him it completely voids all that came before in the movie in terms of his power. The first thing we see from him is him force blocking a freaking blaster shot, then we see him interrogate people using Sith mind tricks. We have all this build up of an extremely powerful character and then he loses to a girl who was waving around a light-saber like a baton. It presents an completely unbalanced view of the power Kylo Ren has. I know they were trying to point out that he was a flawed Sith that was not yet fully trained, but his previous displays of power contradict what we see in the end battle. This overall leaves a sour taste in my mouth about the main antagonist of the film. I would have rather this film have no light-saber duel,because not only would we not have seen what seems to be a lack of athleticism in Daisy Ridley as an actor, which dampers the hopes of good duels in the future, but it would have also kept Kylo Ren a strong character in the minds of the viewer. (Oh and all of a sudden Rey closes her eyes for a few seconds and suddenly is a master with a light-saber? Really?)
+Chris Baylor I did not buy Hux in this movie. For a movie with solid acting all around I found the actor who played Hux to be the worst. This movie tried to parallel the relationship with Tarkin and Vader to Hux and Kylo Ren and I just did not feel like Hux had Kylo Ren under control like Tarkin had Vader. During the Hitler style speech he gave to the first order I did not feel like that scene landed at all because of the acting of Hux. The emotion did not feel genuine and the facial expressions did not portray a charismatic leader. It felt like the actor who played Hux just yelled his lines in front of a green screen.
Ken Leung is an Asian actor who was in this movie as some sort of Captain of the Resistance who is supposed to be in Rogue One, when he delivered his lines during the Resistance strategy meeting, you can tell that he is not a good actor and Rouge One will be affected by that big time.
The 70mm IMAX portion was only 5 minutes long and the scene was Rey flying the Falcon on Jakku, which in my opinion was underwhelming.
For a movie that flaunted it's use of practical affects for a realistic watching experience you would think that the little amount of CGI they had in the movie would be aced. Unfortunately many of the creatures in the bar scene screamed of poor CGI and the monster in the Millennium Falcon did as well. But most disappointing is the look of the 2 motion capture characters in Andy Serkis's Supreme Leader Snoke
and Lupita Nyongo's Maz Katan, Both were a complete eye sore in
terms of CGI realism. I mean the prequels 10 years ago nailed Yoda as a CGI character but in 2015 you can't perfect your 2 motion capture characters? Darth Maul's death fall looked way better than Han's. Disney is the most resourceful company in the world an they can't master the look of the characters in their biggest movie ever? Speaking of Maz Katan.... what a poor character. All the hype around the mystery of Lupita Nyongo's and we get an orange creature with spectacles?
The way Rey encounters the light-saber is done so poorly. Really she stumbles in a room and opens a chest? What is this Narnia? There are so many different ways she can could have encountered that saber that would have been much more impactful.
The only piece of dialogue I remember from the film that peaked my interest even once was when Han said “Luke went to find an early Jedi Temple”. Literally only that line was interesting and made me think “oh cool there going that
direction”. All the other dialogue served the poor plot points and did not interest me. You would think the one thing that would be a redeemable quality of any Star Wars movie is the score, but it seems John Williams is too old and should retire. We have 4 new main characters is the new film yet no new memorable themes at
all. John Williams relied solely on his previous work in the original trilogy and provided nothing new which is most disappointing. I guess the whole fleet of X-wing pilots attacking Tie Fighters was supposed to be the real top notch action in the film, and even though it looked cool I felt it very underwhelming.
I thought the plot points absolutely sucked. They are really summed up with the Resistance trying to find Luke. The First Order trying to find BB-8. And then the Resistance trying to blow up the Death Star. First of all I think the idea that the Death Star gets its energy from the sun is a pretty dumb concept, also it was unclear and abrupt how the Death Star just decided to blow up 4 Resistance Planets, it had no emotional weight. Worst of all the laziness of having the Death Star be destroyed by blasting a central console again is unbelievable.
While watching this movie it felt to me not like Star Wars but the first avengers movie. The humor was not Star Wars like but full of “blockbuster get the whole theater laughing” jokes. We had the type of action humor that we see in the Avengers where the Hulk punches someone without looking at them or Hawkeye shoots a guy without looking. When Han Solo shot a guy while looking the other direction I knew right then that Disney is just fine treating Star Wars just like any other blockbuster property. I think this humor stems from the type of directors, and I think the reason I sensed Avengers so much was because Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams approached the movies in the same way and brought their nerd directing style and made a homage type film. Star Wars should not be treated this way especially a new Episode in the series. Yes little hints at the old movies would be fine, but when your entire movie revolves around nostalgia and nothing new then you have not done enough to constitute a new Episode in the most revered franchises
ever. My biggest problem with the movie is that it plays way to safe. It looks upon the prequels and sees the poor acting and solves that by having good actors for the main 4. However the lack of originality and the fact that the movie adds nothing new at all accept for the 4 new characters is a huge downfall. I feel like JJ said as long as I don't have a Jar Jar and a Hayden Christensen I can just rely on nostalgia to carry the movie and then throw a few new characters in there. The movie added no new aspect to the franchise and just hands a baton the next director to actually make a movie next time. I honestly can only think of a few redeeming qualities: Adam Driver, BB 8, Chewbacca actually did some good fighting, they showed that monster chess table on the Falcon, and they didn't force a romance between Finn and Rey. Other than those small things I can't think of any and compared to the prequels, which are poor movies, they still had a large amount of redeemable qualities.
I commend those professional reviewers or celebrities that actually come out and give Star Wars a negative review, that actually takes courage now. That Fox News lady who poked fun at Star Wars got death threats and Brian Quin from Impractical Jokers said he hated the movie on Twitter, and the outrage forced him to take those tweets down. The hype and blindness about this movie and franchise is out of control.
I didn't like it either for the nostalgia. I'm not sure if we are truly the minority in this or simply ahead of the curve.
+Chris Baylor haters gonna hate and ainters gonna aint. In my honest opinion, as a huge Star Wars fan myself, I loved this movie, it was perfect for me and it felt like Star Wars. I loved the entire cast and how well their chemistry was and how different each character was. I loved the action, effects, and the plot. I loved how they left us with mysteries and I can't wait to have those questions answered at a later date.
You clearly hate this movie and that is your right, but you are in a very small minority and among all my friends that are huge Star Wars fans like me, there is not a single person who dislikes this movie. so have fun hating something that everyone else likes and enjoyed.
+Chris Baylor
Dude I agree with most everything you said. I didn't like it either.
Also, I've seen TFA twice already and l loved it even more the second time. Normally, if I'm too hyped for a movie and it wasn't good, when I watch it a second time, I notice that it wasn't a good movie, that didn't happen with this one and I'm gonna go watch it a third time on Tuesday in IMAX and then probably once every week after that. So, no, im not blinded by the hype or fandom, I genuinely enjoyed this film and I want to enjoy it and experience the film several more times before it comes out on Blu-ray.
I have literally been trying very hard to hate this movie for months.
But I just can't.
you make me sick
*****
cause he is a person who will jump on any bandwagon just to feel relevent
Alright here are my speculations/questions having seen the movie 2x now:
1. Rey is clearly VERY force sensitive. Growing up on Jakku did she know she was force sensitive? Clearly she thought Luke was a legend at first but Finn and then Han confirmed he was real. Then Maz tells Rey that whoever she's waiting for (her "family") is never coming back, but there's a chance that Luke will. Combine that with Luke/Anakin's lightsaber" calling to Rey because of the vision indicates a strong relationship to Luke; could be daughter or just very close to the family somehow. Kylo Ren, during his mind probe of Rey, reveals that she dreams/imagines an ocean with an island; that has to be the same place where she finds Luke. Why would she imagine that? Suppressed memory? A subliminal force vision? Is that Island the First Jedi temple that Luke was searching for?
Now, Rey exhibits 2 force skills in the movie, mind trick and telekinesis. How did she know to do these things, because they are pretty specific force skills?
Remember Han said that Luke tried to teach new Jedi but one of his pupils screwed it all up. It's not explicitly stated but the best candidate for the evil student has to be Kylo Ren. Could Rey then have been a very young pupil of Luke, sent away for her protection?
2. I believe that Snoke instructed Kylo Ren to kill his father to further his development as a dark side user. While on that bridge (fantastic scene, one of my favorites), Kylo only appeared to be conflicted when he asked Han for help; his intention was always to kill him. You think redeeming Vader was hard? Try redeeming Kylo Ren!
3. Crazy, wild theory: Cpt. Phasma will become an ally. I get a professional soldier vibe from her as opposed to a true First Order believer like Hux. Probably won't happen but I would love to see this.
4. Kylo Ren is the "master of the Knights of Ren.' It appears that Rey's lightsaber vision showed events of the past and the future. The Knights of Ren appear here; Kylo is shown killing someone and you see bodies everywhere. What if the Knights of Ren were originally Luke's students before they were corrupted?? Also, where are the Knights? Maybe there is a Knight assigned to each major Star Destroyer in the First Order fleet. Or, maybe it was actually a future vision of the Knights in action, they have yet to be formed under the tutelage of Snoke?
5. Rey's staff is just a staff.... So far.
6. The Republic and The Resistance. During the attack on Starkiller base, C3p0 said, and I'm paraphrasing, they're doomed without the Republic fleet. So The Resistance is not the Republic fleet? Is the Resistance some sort of expeditionary force sent to battle the First Order, separate from the Republic fleet itself?
7. Kylo Ren is firmly on the Dark side, but, as he says, the Light side calls to him. He then says to Vader mask "show me your vision, Grandfather" or something like that. Now we know Snoke corrupted him; perhaps Snoke recovered the Vader Mask and used that to help him corrupt Ben Solo/Kylo Ren.
8. Last thing, a very minor criticism: so R2D2 just happens to wake up after the Resistance victory to help complete the map to Luke? What was he on a timer? Did Luke send a message to wake R2D2? Very minor, I'll give it a pass.
"I feel it again, the call to the light.
Supreme leader senses it.
Show me again, the power of the darkness, and I will let nothing stand in our way.
Show me, grandfather... And I will finish what you started."
+Adam Badass, love it, thanks for that!
+The Driver Part of the fun of Star Wars now is the speculation, I love it when the Collider guys and gals do it
How would you feel if Han is the one who ignited the saber. In killing himself like that, he prevents the complete fall to the Darkside while also protecting him from Snoke's wrath for not killing Han. I really think Han pressed the button on the saber. #hanpressedfirst
That is prevents the fall of Kylo.
Those monsters made me feel like I was watching guardians of the galaxy
Other than that I loved the movie
When that light saber started to move in the snow(kind of like the Wampa cave) was anyone else thinking ti was gonna end up in Luke's hand before it turned out to be Rey?
+JermaineEvent I wish.
I didn't, and I can already imagine how hyped I would've been if it happened. I was already seeing it was going to go to Rey, so Luke would've blown my mind. The funny thing; Luke/Mark is trying to look so majestic and badass and peaceful in that last scene. I just couldn't take I seriously.
+JermaineEvent I am glad it didn't, because Kylo would've been no match at all for Luke. He would not even have needed the saber to defeat him.
Oh believe me. I'm glad it turned out the way it did. I just(and its seems like I'm not alone here) thought that was gonna be their way of introducing Luke into the film.
nobody is talking about the John williams score. I felt it was so disappointing. Not memorable. no impact. Sometimes i even forgot that is was even on.
+David Nobre Then turn your brain and ears on. Poe's theme is playing every time he's on screen: heroic horn anthem. Rey's Theme is literally everywhere in long woodwind-led phrases, The Resistance now has a march, plus the old themes were reprised beautifully.
+David Nobre
I blame the way over the top sound effects and the incredible action scenes, especially in 3d. I was so fixed on that aspect of the movie that the music was just pressed to the background, and not any fault of the music. just how the experience felt to me.
I see what you mean qpopuiuzmnmb. I have been listening to the soundtrack and i can appreciate what you are saying. Maybe they don't resonate as much to me as the old themes. The old ones feel more defined and stronger.
That might be one of the reasons Norm Cantoral. A lot happens in two hours.
I loved this movie. The ONLY thing that bothered me was the change in sound of Anakin/Luke's lightsaber. It was really only the "ignition" sound that changed, but why? The sounds of the lightsaber are the most classic in all if cinema. Why change that?
Well first of all you got to remember that light saber is very old now. So it's going to have a bit more of a kick when it ignites. Also the second thing is they had to update all of the sounds for modern home theater and movie theater sound systems. Also I think JJ Abrams was going for a more futuristic feel for this movie because if you notice those are not the only sounds that are different. Like for example the tie fighter is a whole heck of a lot louder now and the millennium falcon has a much deeper rumble than it used to. Even the laser blaster sound a little bit more modern day-ish and less like the original Star Wars blaster sounds. But I'm pretty satisfied with the changes because they still sort of sound like the originals, but they have enough of a future assume about them that makes them sort of modern-day sounding.
this movie was very gay. the best movie in this series was the first one. back then, men characters were manly unlike in this movie where guys were gay.
***** I don't think he smoke anything. It sounds like he had something else in his mouth with all of the "gay" references.
+Ryfir 2203 you fell for the marketting jive like the little gullible kid that you are. that movie had zero grams of creative work. the marysue character was dull. great body though. Han Solo was pathetic. and the gay black trooper pretty stupid. i wonder why the african american activists don't complain.
+Tim Murphy i didn't mean to offend your people. i didn't know you were gay. the movie offended the gay community. i simply pointed it out.
han had a very interesting look on his face, like being reminded of someone who was no longer with them, when he heard Reys name. she is also just like hans (and a skywalker) but with force powers. i wonder if part of kylos fall had to do with love/jealousy over a little girl who was more powerful then him. he specifies 'girl?' more then once, it seems to bring up alarm in him. leia also seems to respond to her in recognition.
also.. when the blew up all the planets, EVERY TIME they charged their weapon, they drained a star. that means TWO solar systems were destroyed each time it was fired.
+April Lord-Brown or rip Tatooine
I get the feeling snoke is gonna turn out to be yoda size
+Brent Perry Little Snokes complex...hence the gigantic hologram projection.
I think he's 7'~, he seriously looks like a Muun, and they're usually above average height.
+Don John They could have rebooted the look of what a muun is supposed to look like. I don't know. If he's Plaguies, maybe he's not Muun anymore in this canon. Don't know.
+geromino97 If it's Plagueis the likes of him actually sleeping there when Sidious tried to kill them are very minor. I mean he would know what he was doing and wouldn't risk his life.
***** That doesn't make sense…
Carrie Fisher is now one with the Force, and the Force is with her. She is stronger than we could ever imagine. Rest in peace, general.
The implication that all stormtroopers are kidnapped from childhood and conditioned to be soldiers just like Finn and then the resistance kills thousands of them and cheer about it, is hard to accept.
+Randy Nguyen I agree
What are they supposed to do??? They can't save all these people. Being a storm trooper is all they know
+Randy Nguyen Ha-ha, reminds me of when George made the Geonosians into the slaves who primarily worked on the Death Star, because everyone called Luke a mass-murderer for killing all the Wookie slaves abord the 2nd Death Star. His logic: "no one cares about big termites".
And how is that different from the original trilogy when they blow up the Death Star killing thousands of people and the Rebels cheer. It's not.
They made it sound like it's part of the 1st Order, possibly a test to see if it works. Cause it sounded like either Kylo or Hux was for it, the other wanted to use clones again.
That being said, go back to WWII... Most German soldiers weren't evil or bad, they were serving their country. The Allies still killed hundreds of thousands of them.
I just wish Fin and Kylo Ren didn't go down like punks. Was pretty stupid how Ray was able to beat him with zero training. Also I really hope she isn't Lukes daughter, that'd just make him seem like a massive shit head.
+Caa129 Kylo Ren had just been shot with deadly weapon, and Rey was established as a great fighter and force sensitive.
+KirkNeverDied How was she a established great fighter? They just showed her beating up two thugs.
I was saying the same thing, but then I realized, what if Luke never knew? Mom ran when she got pregnant?
If she is Luke's daughter they need to establish the mother as well yeah she has combat training and she use the anger of finn believed to be dead but i agree she shouldn't have beaten Kylo but Kylo in 8 will beat Rey and cut her hand mark my words
Caa129 I don't want to squabble about exactly how good of a fighter she was, but the movie established she was a good enough fighter that a stormtrooper was surprised by her ability. If you prefer alternative language, she knows how to handler herself in a fight, she's force sensitive, and she was just shot with a weapon which usually kills people. He was shown bleeding, holding his side, and looking injured.
I've seen the movie 3 times and I can't get this out of my head. Did anyone else hear Obi Wan say Rey's name in her Force vision? It's right as she sees the forest. It sounds so much like they were going for a voice like Obi Wan's to me.
I just got my answers thanks to Star Wars News Net. They used Ewan McGregor and an old recording of Alec Guinness for that sequence.
www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015/12/j-j-abrams-lawrence-kasdan-and-michael-arndt-reveal-new-secrets-about-the-force-awakens.html
+Ryne Sypowicz I've seen it twice now and i noticed that the second time, good find man didn't think to research it myself. all signs pointing to her being a Skywalker in my opinion, really hope she is!
Yeah I like the subtlety of it and I'm kinda glad we don't know who she is yet. I don't see how she isn't a Skywalker, but who knows.
+Ryne Sypowicz I`ve watched it twice now and let me just get it out of the way, the scene where she finds the light saber gave me a serious case of chills down my spine. I have to pay close attention next time, but I did not remember hearing Kenobi`s voice during the visions, but I`m pretty sure that the first corridor is from Empire when Luke confronts Vader on Cloud City.
As to who Rey`s parents are, I`m pretty convinced she`s not Kylo Ren`s brother and I`m still not sure she`s Luke`s daughter either. There are signs pointing in that direction of course, but I do think that she has some connection to Luke either through her real parents and that she was left on Jakku to keep her safe from the First Order.
+Ryne Sypowicz Thank you! I've seen it twice, and I thought I was going crazy hearing Obi Wan both times. Glad it's not just me.
Harrison Ford's performance was so bad that I actually felt relieved when I saw Han Solo being killed.
You're in the heavy minority, troll.
+anessone truth hurts, right?
Way worse in Indy 4
Kylo is so much more powerful than Vader. Could Vader stop a laser bolt in mid air and keep it there? Ha no!
+MoorsAreIsraelites Well he is a trained Stormtrooper that's why his marksmanship is so good
You clearly don't know how strong Vader was. Don't be fooled by the Original trilogy. in the comics and the video games he was considered the one of the most powerful force users of all time. He was able to move starships something i'm sure Kylo Ren cannot do and don't even get me started on how awful his lightsaber skills were! He can't be compared to any true sith lord because he just seems too weak with child tantrums
+Captain Shark actually Finn was just the garbage man not really a trained stormtrooper he even said his first mission was in the raid in the beginning of the film.
+chrisflo24
comics make the characters stronger then what they really are I'm sure kylo will get a buff in the comics just as Vader did.
plus Vader was getting smacked a bit by Luke in empire so... ya vader won but after a good fight.
also kylo is going to be fully trained by snoke in episode 8 so he'll be stronger.
+chrisflo24 also Vader was a weak child with a tantrum watch the prequels also Vader is no sith he's a dark Jedi.
I didn't want to see Kylo Rens face , the mask is his face to me .
I feel like the mask is a very helmet like thing to me. I like the fact that he takes it off; he doesn't need it at all. It's purely an image thing. But that's my opinion.
+MIchael Kragseth I think the fact that he takes off his mask and has a baby face is even more unsettling. butttt regardless, that dude got fucked up and now has a slice across his face so he's gonna look hella badass
+Turbofungji :D he took it off after the reveal he was Han and Lea's son. To me it was fine. Plus it gave him more depth and realism as a deeply disturbed person. This is how Anakin should have been portrayed.
I was really hoping is have was messed up. one of the fan theory was he got mangled fighting Luke when he turned. was sorta disappointed
+MIchael Kragseth I'd have kept him masked until Han sees him, have him take it off so Han thinks Kylo is going to come back to him, then have him stab Han. I just think Han almost wanted to die in that scene. Kylo gave no real reason for Han to think he had changed. It was very Obi Wan dying in front of Luke imo.
Star Wars Episode VII: The Mary Sue Awakens
Rey: Poor homeless orphaned scavenger, buuuuuuuut also an expert mechanic, technician, pilot, is a better shot with a blaster pistol she has never shot before than a highly trained stormtrooper is with a blaster rifle, masters the use of the Jedi mind trick after all of 30 seconds and ZERO training, and then the SECOND time she touches a lightsaber she is able to win a lightsaber duel against someone who was trained as a Jedi. Also, she absolutely doesn't need you to hold her hand while she is running.
Her only personality traits are that she is inexplicably good at everything and everyone likes her.... Oh and she misses her family. She is a purposefully bland character (so the audience can project), misses her family (so the audience can relate) and is an expert at everything(so that those in the audience who are trying to immerse themselves into this universe as Rey can wow all the main characters and receive their admiration....
***** The opinion of a prequel loving clone trooper matters not to me.
***** I'm in no way, shape or form a hipster. I'm a 30 year old country boy who gets dirty working on his classic shelby, classic f150 and other various classic muscle cars. See my channel.
Regardless, the OG trilogy Stormtroopers were far superior to any of the prequel troopers, including the 501st. If the clone troopers were so great, the empire wouldn't of stopped using them.
I do find it interesting that no one seems to question how a 9 year old boy can be basically a champion formula 1 driver, build a complex protocol droid, and later fly a craft inside a giant control ship, knocking out its core, yet criticise Rey's character for being a good pilot/mechanic and saber duelist.
luke mckenzie The prequels are rife with failures. About Anakins pod racing, it does mention he failed once before. Unlike Rey who doesn't fail anything in the movie. Build a protocol droid? He worked at a salvage yard repairing broken droids, etc. So him having the skill is possible. Rey also has an understanding of mechanics being a scavenger.
This movie was waaay to scripted, it felt like everything was forced.
You guys are giving this movie way too much leniency just because it's a Star Wars film. You guys have Phantom Menace syndrome.
Just saw it. Love cinemas with only 25 people on a Wednesday afternoon. My parka had it's won seat.
Away here are my ratings: Awakens 9.2, Empire 9.0, New Hope 8.7, Jedi 8.2. Sith 6.5, Phantom 6.2 (just because of Maul), Clones 5.8.
Dude! Ray looks like Padme... think about it... she takes after her grandmother with looks and her grandfather with the force.
also wtf? no funeral for Han ? they could've added another 15 min to the movie to IMO to add some more emotion. to the father-son conflict, death and grieving after. it seemed too rushed.
+Mike Brancatelli amd bury what ? some Cosmic dust?
I agree. There should have been a ceremony or someone saying something atleast ... But also adds to the realization that he is not the POPULAR heroic solo that he was. still sad to see him go like that
I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter. I think she's Han and Leia's daughter. When Han and Leia parted ways (or the relationship was on hiatus), I believe she was pregnant with his child, but didn't have the heart to tell him. This would still make Rey strong with the Force as she is also the grandchild of Darth Vader. Don't forget that Leia is also strong with the Force. Which would mean that she and Kylo Ren are actually brother and sister. Luke is her uncle. It would also explain why Leia was so affectionate to Rey for no particular reason. For Rey to be the "new hope", it would be better if she is not aware of how easily her grandfather and brother were seduced by the Darkside. And, how her uncle also nearly gave in...
VeRy CoOl
I respect the team so much, but this movie lacked allot. Y'all critique the hell out of the Prequels but act like this is great cinema. Adam didn't deliver Ren any better than you say about Hayden did Anakin. He was pouty looked terrible and not menacing without the mask. He was beaten by a girl who didn't even know how to fire a blaster much less hold a LIGHTSABER.
+Kenneth Smith II Then why do u respect them so much since they are obviously not dogging the movies on the MULTIPLE snafu's in this crapfest of a script
Score was so forgettable. No great new tracks
Wow I can't believe you would say that especially for the song called the scavenger. Perhaps you need to listen to it without all the action and you'll see just how awesome it really is!
+cooleo1c yea i thought john williams would do better because i loved the prequels music even more than the original trilogy's music
+cooleo1c The Scavenger? Rey's Theme? March of the Resistance? Jedi Steps? Snoke?
+cooleo1c Reys theme is the only new memorable one IMO. The prequels had an absolutely fantastic score compared to this.
StabStabStabStabby right! the prequels music is amazing. it seems he kind of ran out of new ideas
these five guys are the best combination
At the end of TFA when Luke turns around to face Ray and pulls down his hood, I couldn't keep from laughing. He looks just like Oliver Reed in Gladiator.