Instant like from me, Steve! The entry level is where a lot of volume sales will be and where the companies are more in danger of cutting just too many corners. They should be held accountable here, too! Don't get me wrong, there is a place for high end content, but I find the battle of the cheapest more interesting and relevant. PR departments, beware! :D
I agree with that 100% Manufactures want to show you their best, I generally think it is great to try and review their worst. Because that is what a lot of people will buy. Especially in this case, Asus known to produce some high end cards, thick looking cooler 3 fans only to find its actually garbage. To nuance, bit looking at newegg for example the top sellers are mostly the better cards where people already seen reviews but on the flip side maybe cheaper cards that are not actually bad will sell more if they get coverage.
I am grateful that guys like you exist who helps so many people from getting screwed off their hard earned money. I don't know if you feel it but this is the most rewarding part of what you do. Many thanks for looking out for us :)
@Brandon S Sure. I'm not going to fault a guy trying to make an honest living. And if his means of honest living helps me make better decisions about my purchase I'm cool with saying thanks. As it should be, yeah?
@Brandon S Were not paying him for the review, it just happens that he earns from this and he still saved someone from making a bad purchase. So my point? We give credit were credit is due.
yeah that one is a no go card the heat sink they use on that one is complete utter shit my friend had to returned it the temp were in 80+ on his mini itx case which was not the case with his previous card from xfx
from a technical point of view blower cards should have superior cooling to axials, they just get really shitty designs. axials are blowing air straight into an obstruction (fin stack and a circuit board) so most of their airflow is wasted in blast back. blowers are pushing air down a cast heat sink and outside of the case. how axials keep beating them in performance baffles me
@@MrOsmodeus Axials can move massively larger amounts of air, due to their lack of restrictions for their exhaust channels. Blowers have to push all their air through a tight, restrictive set of heat veins on the heat sink. Axials can take in more air because they have far easier exhaust paths - they blow air out the side, venting to the ambient air inside the case, and then rely on the case's ventilation to disperse the heat. Almost all reviewers will have properly ventilating cases, so axials will almost always be superior.
You can have 12 fans. Won't help you much if your heat sink design fails or is simply too small in dimension. Air flow is important. Heat spreading surface area is all the more important.
@@MindaugasSnegirevas the nitro+ where i live is 10$ more than the pulse and lets be honest, for 10 extra is WELL worth, and the red devil is 5$ cheaper so.... hey no brainer too, weird pricing we've got as the shappire and powercolor top tier cards are surprisingly cheap while the lower models are just at the same price of 20$ up and down, then the classic brands, gigabyte msi and asus all cost way more, asus strix at 600€ is funny when u can get the ASUS STRIX 2080 for 650...
AREN CORP AREN CORP 400 blowers. 410 pulse and all other 2 fan cards. 420 for gigabyte gaming and tuf gaming. 440 red devil 470 nitro + all the msi cards are 440-470. I went red devil.
Between the comprehensive RX 5700 reviews and the exceptionally thorough monitor reviews, you just got yourselves a Patreon subscriber. Thanks for the great, informative content. I make my purchasing decisions based on your reviews.
Personally I love my Tuf X570 wifi board. Buildzoid also liked it a lot as did most of the big reviewers for the 200$ ranged boards it definitley has a lot of features and stays nice and cool while pushing my 3600X at a stable 4.3Ghz.... "I am not TUF fan, but its X570 variant has nothing to do with any of its predecessors. The TUF Gaming X570-Plus goes further than any budget motherboard I have reviewed so far. It managed to stay under the 200 USD mark, which is not easy given the X570 chipset prices. Particularly loved the new RAM configuration, presence of the EZ debugger, a powerful and re-designed VRM (finally) and a richer RGB capability. Finally, a good TUF board… I was losing hope!" Dont judge ALL products off a few bad apples...ok more than a few but this board is pretty awesome!
Sadly the TUF X570 PLUS motherboard is rated as the best for its price point. This TUF card is just a disappointment. I guess ASUS invest much more on Nvidia cards than AMD.
@@SDcharge2k12 yeah, that mobo its nice one. But the x470 was joke. Rx 5700 is a joke. TUF 1660 super is garbage. Even strix when having big ass coolers have often bad thermopads (Vega Strix).
If this is an affordable card, you can bet a lot of people will buy it regardless of this video. And these cards will fail fairly quickly, giving the 5700XT a bad rep. AMD shouldn't stand for their AIB's messing up the model this bad.
Please Read the title carefully. Basically this channel is trying to tell people that NOT-ALL GPU Manufacturers can make specific GPU Model meet end requirement as specified by AMD themselves, yet only few manufacturer managed to Exceed the requirement which makes this particular card quieter, smoother, and cooler. ASUS itself has losing Reputation in these last 6 years with numerous hardware failure from literally all their products including intel and nvidia in ASUS's line up. I myself saving for MSI version of this card
@@The_Noticer. long short story, Asus failed to meet the bare minimum requirements of Radeon specs like Maximum allowed Operating temperature, voltage/wattage beyond limit, unoptimized Bios, etc etc
@@ClayWheeler Yes that much I understood, my comment was that AMD shouldn't stand for their AIB's to NOT meet specs. They should demand these be taken off the market if they obviously don't meet spec.
@Deez Nutz Run it underclocked (stock rx5700 xt clocks or just slightly higher) with an "aggressive" aka. linear fan curve, should be ok. At least mine is, but it's noisy. Eg. peak temps after underclocking from stock oc on my tuf: 85c junction, 64c gpu, 78c memory, 47c mem vrm, 60c gpu vrm
Thanks a lot Steve, saved me a ton of money.. 😅 I patiently waited out for reviews on this gpu & thank god I did..!! The market is pretty pathetic in India & the difference between this & the entry level galax 2070s is mere 30$.. Thanks for your content, definitely happy to see this arrive in my notification :D
welcome to my reality, on my country shappire and powercolor top models (nitro+ and red devil) are among the CHEAPEST cards... and the "normal brands" all are over it, the msi evoke is way more same as gigabyte basic models
Sapphire is always a win in my book and my safest bet. Got an ITX rx570 and almost every one of my still-alive gfx cards are theirs with only 1 RMA (a 7750) :) my Palit geforce, XFX, Powercolor, Asus ones are all dead save for one lowly asus 5450 and one PC 3450 lol. Not to mention I've had my best RMA experience with them too compared to MSI but I heard Asus RMA in my country is way better now not requiring a receipt even.
@@arencorparencorp2189 Nitro+ is awesome. Before I had Gaming X and Nitro+ is superior in everything. It's insanely good. 5700 XT's have just drivers problems, be aware of that. If you don't want deal with troubleshooting, 2070S can be way to go. Unfortunately.
YES!! Thankyou Steve for suggesting that other Steve has a look. I love a good Tech Jesus roasting and when GN said no more 5700XTs I was NOOOOO! But holy crap, that is a horrific result, freaking hell ASUS, I asked for a GPU not a BBQ. 😳🤦
I own an MSI RX 5700 MECH. I don't have the capability to test like you but in my every day use in a well ventilated case it has done very well. I don't know about torture test thermals but with stock fan curve in games I can't hear the fans over system fans. Don't recall exact temps to be honest but think it was around 70C give or take some after a long gaming session. Not scientific...just some experience from a novice.
am prepping for GN Tech Jesus to rain down hellfire and brimstone..... but also hoping for Tech Jesus Steve to recommend/do tweaks to make the vid card better.
Thank you for the review of this product. Unfortunately I did purchase this card and was seeing the same issues you highlighted. I did rma the tuf card and went with the red devil instead. Thank you for bringing light on to this card to warn potential buyers.
Not a review but I ran furmark for 10 minutes on the OC bios profile, using the red dragon 5700xt in a Silentbase 600 case (not the best ventilated to be sure!) max system temp as reported from the motherboard is 31c - max temps as reported by hwinfo were as follows: GPU temp 74c Memory Junction 86c GPU VR VDDC 71c GPU Hot Spot 93c with a max clock of 1612mhz
You guys really do fulfill an absolutely essential role for people who are trying to buy products with money they worked for. Im grateful there are channels like yours and frankly people like you to make sure the sheeple dont get hoodwinked. Keep up the great work, i love you guys! This is a great counterpunch and a great way to get these large companies attention and let them know they cant pull fast ones on consumers. You know the worst part about all of this is that pc enthusiasts are some of the smarter people out there in the world and these companies still try garbage like this. Just imagine what the rest of the items you buy and use are really like and how much unbelievable greed is responsible for fueling such dishonesty and shoddy workmanship and corner cutting. Thanks for representing us HardwareUnboxed!
Thank you, Steve. Thank goodness I ended up buying the Gigabyte model 2 weeks ago, based on good reviews from both you and GN Steve. Glad I listened to my gut and stayed away from this one. Appreciate the work that you and Tim do for us. :)
woaw :D I laughed so much on this video. Thanks Steve :D Btw how are we going to be "informed" about the strix? will there be a new video about it or just something on patreon?
Mind blown here! Too bad, it has fairly good asthetic but in 2019 using disconnected thin cooling plate just to cool the memory or VRM these day should be considered red flag. EVGA used this approach with their ACX 3.0 in the past and it was disaster, and this? Thanks for bringing this up Steve!
TY Steve. You are legit cool guy for doing this reviews for us! Fair and square! I wonder if other well sponsored reviewers will mention 104 degree DDR6..
This is the video that roasted ASUS so hard, they pulled a full redemption arc on their Big Navi and Ampere cards, especially on the TUF Gaming series. Now, they are literally the best in thermal performance. Thanks for roasting them to their senses! Bought RX 6800 XT and it *can't* get hot at all.
Just signed up for your patreon. Thank you so much for all the work you guys do. I'm constantly amazed at the number of vids y'all make, and I've been meaning to join but always put it off. This video made me stop procrastinating and finally sign up!
Nice video Steve. I liked your little intro story. You also didn't hold back in what you wanted to review after the manufacturer didn't want to send the Tuff GPU out to you. Hopefully the videos you present to consumers will force manufacturers to take a second look at their products or come forward quicker with the fixes. I had actually bought an Asus RX 5700 XT before you reviewed it and it turned out to be faulty. I could be getting the Sapphire Nitro+ instead, although I would be interested in seeing the Asus fix. Good content as always.
I completely agree could this be the effect of the GPP I could be wrong though. I'd go the Sapphire route but I'm not into the way AMD launches GPUs 2 GPUs this year 2 GPUs next year no more complete line up like we are used to this crappy.
wanted to buy the TUF but waited for your review. Thanks for finally reviewing it. Wont buy it now. I will get the Gigabyte 5700xt. Love your work and keep doing your thing :D
FenixROFL same, glad HWU made this video, I was between gigabyte and the red devil but really liked the TUF look, especially since I was going to get the TUF x570 which is one of HWU recommendations in the $200 range, to match GPU with the MB but oh well, gigabyte it is
Good choice, the Gigabyte Gaming and Sapphire Pulse seem to be the best 5700XT's. The Red Devil and Nitro+ are nice, but too expensive. The whole point of the 5700XT is performance/$ and at $440-450+ it doesn't make as much sense anymore. At that point you might as well pay the extra $50 for an entry level 2070 Super.
also, this is one of best reviews of product with spicy overall details ive seen recently. Keeps me very sure that subscribing to you back in 2017 was very good idea. Keep it up Steve. lots of love from Europe!
You being honest and critical about products makes it that manuafacturers are weary about sending their product. Instead they should just freaking improve their coolers xD
Not a subscriber, but one of mine watched this and told me...send it back. I laughed. So then I had to check this out...and see if there was anything in the video I agree with. I have had zero issues with this card. I have it in a really well ventilated case and it has run cool. I don't find it that loud and after putting the dB reader up against the fans...still don't find it that loud. Very high FPS for a card that cost me $368. I have about 12 other GPU's including some RTX 2070 Super and 2060 Super. I find this to be the best deal on graphics card. I have paired it with an I9-9900kf as well as a Ryzen with x570 motherboard. It has not failed to impress me. Hate to see this card get a bad name since one person with lots of subs doesn't like it.
i can already hear nvidia fanboys saying look how bad this card is and i can already hear amd fanboys saying its not a fair comparison and i can already hear asus fanboys saying its flawless and that asus priced it too low for what is undoubtedly pure perfection.
One of the things that baffles me is that when most people understand we have to cut back on wasting resources, products like this are still being manufactured and sold. If a product is this bad why make it at all? Great video keep up the good work!
Thanks for the video! I helped my friend to choose parts for his PC and the only RX5700XT available was the one in the video so i thought it can't be worse than the reference card... Well i'm glad he didn't buy parts for his PC yet and i told him to buy another RX5700XT card.
I already chose the strix rx5700 OC edition 8gb a few days ago for my first gaming build, not got all my parts yet, but it came in the post today geez this thing is sexy and heavy af , hope I didn't make a boo boo getting this card, paid £409 from amazon which was cheaper than everyone at the time here in the UK , now to just find £700 more to Finnish this beast build 😁 thanks for the heads up tho , we appreciate you brother 😎
"In search of incredible (heat)" Seriously, their gaming laptops and some of their GPU has temperature issues due to its design... Cutting too many corners.
You really can't make generalizations about brands. When it comes to X570 board for example Asus have the most bang for buck board whereas here its an absolute rip-off. MSI have amazing B450 boards and god awful X570 boards.
@@rdmz135 the thing is none of the budget x570 are worth it and easily gets outshined by b450 and x470 And a cherry on top they don't have an annoying fan
@@turkepic3637 Well I can agree that their "ROG" branded stuff is almost always a rip-off. The rest of their products are fine. This card is an anomaly. It just flat-out sucks.
Kudos to you guys, as I was 3 days away from ordering the Asus tuff 5700xt due to it's price and cooling solution. Incredible that a 3 fan solution can be worse than reference, normally I judge a person not by their mistakes but by what they do about it afterwards. This doesn't work for companies like Asus as they would have already discovered how bad it was, but some fool made the mistake of thinking they would release it anyway - look after your customers and the profits will come, put profit first and watch your brand loyalty (and profit) dwindle.
I wold like to show my appreciation of your efforts by writing this comment. Thank you for your dedication towards trying showing us as much as you possibly can.
I love that this got reviewed, talk about a public service announcement this turned out to be: because yeah, this card LOOKS great, but damn is it really bad!
Asus: "we need to make this graphics card cheaper, what can we put on the memory heatsinks?" Asus employee: *trying to silently open a sandwich wrapped in tin foil* Asus: GOOD IDEA
It reminds me of my own experience back in 2008. I use to be a big ASUS fanboy before that. I bought an ASUS Radeon 4670 graphics card. I did not even considered other brands as believed I would get a quality card for the extra money I payed. The card had an extremely loud fan and had no fan control. It was always stuck on max fan speed. From that day on wards I tend to avoid ASUS products unless I have no other choice. If I can't see a review of something I assume it is bad and I will buy something that had been reviewed. Thanks guys for helping us buyers.
I always just assumed their TUF line were garbage products meant to "gotcha" unsuspecting "gamers". Much like the MSI Armor cards. I haven't felt very fondly of ASUS in quite awhile. I just get this vibe that they feel much to highly of their ROG brand that they've taken on a bit of an Apple complex. Didn't they also have some fiasco with the Strix Vega cards not contacting the HBM properly?
I bought the reference card, never opened it because of your videos. I wanted the Red Devil but it wasn't available. So I bought the XFX thicc II. It ran hot and loud so I sent it back. Waiting for my lowered priced red devil to arrive on Friday.
Just got the non-EVO card yesterday, new stock from amazon UK (expected EVO but..) tested v2 default and efficiency bios - efficiency just limit power to 180W which isn’t actually working in our favour. Why is that? So.. card actually works just fine with 86-90C on memory if you adjust curve to around 50% 2.5k rpm to stay there. 30% used by default is just not enough to put some airflow. I contacted ASUS and will seek for some help, regardless it was cheap at £260 and I’ll keep it.
Damn glad i watched this video, i was close to decide to get this graphics card. Thank you so much for letting me know youtube guy and the comment section
Reminds me of an ASUS AMD card that came out several years ago that only had most of the memory connected to any cooling solutions at all. Temps were taken from the ones with a cooling solution, so you wouldn't know unless you did a tear down of the card. The ASUS Matrix HD 7970 GHz. Blows me away that they failed to properly cool the memory of cards again. You'd think they would have learned.
I always hated choosing a graphics card because of how many different models there are of the same GPU Videos like yours make it A LOT easier Thanks for the hard work
This was very enlightening to see. I bought this card on a whim partly based on its appearance, and because up until this point I had no reason to believe there would be any major issues with the 5700XT cards in general. Unfortunately this card was a bit of a mess for me. It would constantly crash my system to a green screen and force a reboot when I'd tried to play a game or run a benchmark. I couldn't even monitor temperatures, due to it spazzing out once it was under any load that would get the fans seriously spinning. I can also confirm that this thing does get loud Wow! But it makes sense if this was all related to poor thermal performance. I didn't get throttling though, it just would crash or even make the display go blank. I ended up replacing it with an entirely different card. At least it looks nice!😬
Asus also pulled a similar set of tricks with their polaris entry level cards. I bought the RX480 8Gb dual-OC card and the heatsync was tiny, the fans were loud and the shroud was needlessly bulky to make the cooler look more effective that it actually was. I eventually gave up and replaced the whole thing with an aftermarket cooler and dropped 35c under full load. I'm glad to see you're calling them out on these kinds of crappy, anti-consumer designs.
Instant like from me, Steve! The entry level is where a lot of volume sales will be and where the companies are more in danger of cutting just too many corners. They should be held accountable here, too! Don't get me wrong, there is a place for high end content, but I find the battle of the cheapest more interesting and relevant. PR departments, beware! :D
I agree with that 100% Manufactures want to show you their best, I generally think it is great to try and review their worst. Because that is what a lot of people will buy.
Especially in this case, Asus known to produce some high end cards, thick looking cooler 3 fans only to find its actually garbage.
To nuance, bit looking at newegg for example the top sellers are mostly the better cards where people already seen reviews but on the flip side maybe cheaper cards that are not actually bad will sell more if they get coverage.
I mean you all make a big thing of something that you can fix quite easily with some small thermic pad on each memory chip and you gain like 5°on each
@@ommsterlitz1805 Why should you do that for a product that costs $$$ of dollars? That's ridiculous.
I am grateful that guys like you exist who helps so many people from getting screwed off their hard earned money. I don't know if you feel it but this is the most rewarding part of what you do. Many thanks for looking out for us :)
Sadly I didn't catch the video in time.
Really sorry dude, always check out a few reviews before buying that usually helps. If you're into dyi maybe get an aftermarket cooler for the card?
@Brandon S Sure. I'm not going to fault a guy trying to make an honest living. And if his means of honest living helps me make better decisions about my purchase I'm cool with saying thanks. As it should be, yeah?
@Brandon S Were not paying him for the review, it just happens that he earns from this and he still saved someone from making a bad purchase. So my point? We give credit were credit is due.
It is so bad steve had to do another video after he said he would not do anymore, ouch ASUS
Steve: "BUT I'M NOT DONE YET!"
Sure thing pajeet
@@SusanPDavis 5 figures if you count the cents right?
I gotta say the ROG strix fuckin sucks for its price aswell... Costs more than a 2070 super, yet its almost as bad as the reference blower 5700XT...
Steve still needs to review alot of 5700 xt gpus! like asrock challenger, msi mech, powercolor red dragon, xfx DD ahahah
I have also had some bad experiences with the entry-level version of Asus's GPU designs. The GTX 1660 ti Pheonix is also crap.
yeah that one is a no go card the heat sink they use on that one is complete utter shit my friend had to returned it the temp were in 80+ on his mini itx case which was not the case with his previous card from xfx
Isnt that a single fan ITX card? At least it could blame the compactness
Yeah, the non Ti version has the same cooler and it's also hot as hell. The Zotac mini version is about the same size and really cool.
@@aexandereung5686 Yeah it is a small card, but it's still pretty terrible even for its size.
the Asus Dual RX 580 in my PC is also garbage, wish I just spent the extra $20 and got a Nitro+
When you somehow make a triple fan card worse than the reference, you know that you just did a huge mistake.
from a technical point of view blower cards should have superior cooling to axials, they just get really shitty designs. axials are blowing air straight into an obstruction (fin stack and a circuit board) so most of their airflow is wasted in blast back. blowers are pushing air down a cast heat sink and outside of the case. how axials keep beating them in performance baffles me
@@MrOsmodeus Axials can move massively larger amounts of air, due to their lack of restrictions for their exhaust channels. Blowers have to push all their air through a tight, restrictive set of heat veins on the heat sink. Axials can take in more air because they have far easier exhaust paths - they blow air out the side, venting to the ambient air inside the case, and then rely on the case's ventilation to disperse the heat. Almost all reviewers will have properly ventilating cases, so axials will almost always be superior.
You can have 12 fans. Won't help you much if your heat sink design fails or is simply too small in dimension.
Air flow is important. Heat spreading surface area is all the more important.
I mean you all make a big thing of something that you can fix quite easily with some small thermic pad on each memory chip and you gain like 5°on each
Asus quality randomness again proved :D
Gotta say it: thank you for PROTECTING customers.
420 dollars? That explains everything. Someone was high while making it. 🤣
Not cool stoners understand how Important cooling is that's why they invented ice bongs
Pulse is 410$ and it's better. it's really good for the cheapest card.
@@MindaugasSnegirevas the nitro+ where i live is 10$ more than the pulse and lets be honest, for 10 extra is WELL worth, and the red devil is 5$ cheaper so.... hey no brainer too, weird pricing we've got as the shappire and powercolor top tier cards are surprisingly cheap while the lower models are just at the same price of 20$ up and down, then the classic brands, gigabyte msi and asus all cost way more, asus strix at 600€ is funny when u can get the ASUS STRIX 2080 for 650...
@@BigT1984 lulled
AREN CORP AREN CORP 400 blowers. 410 pulse and all other 2 fan cards. 420 for gigabyte gaming and tuf gaming. 440 red devil 470 nitro + all the msi cards are 440-470. I went red devil.
Steve, ripping Asus a new one. Keep 'em honest!
@Cinnabar Volcano the X370-Pro had some badass power delivery though... or at least the Internet says so
Between the comprehensive RX 5700 reviews and the exceptionally thorough monitor reviews, you just got yourselves a Patreon subscriber. Thanks for the great, informative content. I make my purchasing decisions based on your reviews.
So I guess TUF stands for:
Total
Utter
Failure
Well yeah, the whole tuf family is industrial waste. Nice design with ASUS logo, but nothing more.
Personally I love my Tuf X570 wifi board. Buildzoid also liked it a lot as did most of the big reviewers for the 200$ ranged boards it definitley has a lot of features and stays nice and cool while pushing my 3600X at a stable 4.3Ghz....
"I am not TUF fan, but its X570 variant has nothing to do with any of its predecessors.
The TUF Gaming X570-Plus goes further than any budget motherboard I have reviewed so far. It managed to stay under the 200 USD mark, which is not easy given the X570 chipset prices.
Particularly loved the new RAM configuration, presence of the EZ debugger, a powerful and re-designed VRM (finally) and a richer RGB capability.
Finally, a good TUF board… I was losing hope!"
Dont judge ALL products off a few bad apples...ok more than a few but this board is pretty awesome!
Sadly the TUF X570 PLUS motherboard is rated as the best for its price point. This TUF card is just a disappointment.
I guess ASUS invest much more on Nvidia cards than AMD.
@@SDcharge2k12 yeah, that mobo its nice one.
But the x470 was joke. Rx 5700 is a joke. TUF 1660 super is garbage.
Even strix when having big ass coolers have often bad thermopads (Vega Strix).
I mean you all make a big thing of something that you can fix quite easily with some small thermic pad on each memory chip and you gain like 5°on each
HWU : NO MORE 5700XT'S
Me: (Wants more)
HWU : Hey check this video
He's got the need, the need for AMD.
@@Flaming1100 Need For Navi
Lol I read HWU as uwu at first. I need to sleep >_
This one should be called the Asus 5700XT SUCC II
@@Entenuk1 owo
Reference card: My thermals are a joke
ASUS TUF X3: *Allow me to introduce myself*
I mean you all make a big thing of something that you can fix quite easily with some small thermic pad on each memory chip and you gain like 5°on each
@@ommsterlitz1805 who would buy a broken product... just to fix it yourself?
@@ommsterlitz1805 Shouldnt it be Asus who fixes their own shit in their QA department ?? Then ask its customers for their money ?
When it says "don't buy!" in the title ya know it's a POS lol.
When hardware unboxed says DONT BUY in the title , you know gamers nexus will destroy the card in mount Doom
I wonder if this one is made of Happy Meal plastic.
6:56 "That sucked."
@@CaveyMoth that or old recycled milk cartons lol
@@BM1620 At least that is making good use of resources. I'd happily go for an eco friendly graphics card like that.
Don’t buy 5700xt?
You know the battle has heated up when HU smashes a graphocs card
Lol
Haha..heated up.
PLEASE STEVE GO TO SLEEP
We'll buy the gigabyte OC or sapphire pulse they're good we know.
Now go download the patch for your sleep schedule please!
Gigabytes vega was trash.
@@abedfo88 Gigabytes navi was great.
@@abedfo88 Gigabyte, the coil whine king
i saw this video after that i bought gigabyte but still facing the same issue
If this is an affordable card, you can bet a lot of people will buy it regardless of this video. And these cards will fail fairly quickly, giving the 5700XT a bad rep.
AMD shouldn't stand for their AIB's messing up the model this bad.
Please Read the title carefully. Basically this channel is trying to tell people that NOT-ALL GPU Manufacturers can make specific GPU Model meet end requirement as specified by AMD themselves, yet only few manufacturer managed to Exceed the requirement which makes this particular card quieter, smoother, and cooler. ASUS itself has losing Reputation in these last 6 years with numerous hardware failure from literally all their products including intel and nvidia in ASUS's line up.
I myself saving for MSI version of this card
@@ClayWheeler But this card doesn't meet the specs, I don't understand your comment.
@@The_Noticer. long short story, Asus failed to meet the bare minimum requirements of Radeon specs like Maximum allowed Operating temperature, voltage/wattage beyond limit, unoptimized Bios, etc etc
@@ClayWheeler Yes that much I understood, my comment was that AMD shouldn't stand for their AIB's to NOT meet specs. They should demand these be taken off the market if they obviously don't meet spec.
@Deez Nutz Run it underclocked (stock rx5700 xt clocks or just slightly higher) with an "aggressive" aka. linear fan curve, should be ok. At least mine is, but it's noisy.
Eg. peak temps after underclocking from stock oc on my tuf:
85c junction, 64c gpu, 78c memory, 47c mem vrm, 60c gpu vrm
Well, that's a TUF card to recommend...
Steve, mate, this is so awkward. If I had known you were gonna wear the same T-shirt, I would’ve worn something else....
Steve: I won't do another one
Benchmark god: Another one
Dj Khaled voice: Another One.
@@TTL_Tsaki Asus still haven't fixed the other one
I canceled my Asus TUF just in time! Thanks so much! Steve
Thank you for this video! I really appreciate the honesty. It's pathetic they wouldn't send you the card, but obvious why....
Finally a review on the TUF !
I didn't found nowhere reveiw on this card, thanks steve. now we know what to avoid.
Thanks a lot Steve, saved me a ton of money.. 😅 I patiently waited out for reviews on this gpu & thank god I did..!!
The market is pretty pathetic in India & the difference between this & the entry level galax 2070s is mere 30$..
Thanks for your content, definitely happy to see this arrive in my notification :D
welcome to my reality, on my country shappire and powercolor top models (nitro+ and red devil) are among the CHEAPEST cards... and the "normal brands" all are over it, the msi evoke is way more same as gigabyte basic models
get the sapphire....its good
Same here, I was gonna buy as a good price on Amazon ..think I'll pass..
Sapphire is always a win in my book and my safest bet. Got an ITX rx570 and almost every one of my still-alive gfx cards are theirs with only 1 RMA (a 7750) :) my Palit geforce, XFX, Powercolor, Asus ones are all dead save for one lowly asus 5450 and one PC 3450 lol. Not to mention I've had my best RMA experience with them too compared to MSI but I heard Asus RMA in my country is way better now not requiring a receipt even.
@@arencorparencorp2189 Nitro+ is awesome. Before I had Gaming X and Nitro+ is superior in everything. It's insanely good. 5700 XT's have just drivers problems, be aware of that. If you don't want deal with troubleshooting, 2070S can be way to go. Unfortunately.
YES!! Thankyou Steve for suggesting that other Steve has a look. I love a good Tech Jesus roasting and when GN said no more 5700XTs I was NOOOOO! But holy crap, that is a horrific result, freaking hell ASUS, I asked for a GPU not a BBQ. 😳🤦
I own an MSI RX 5700 MECH. I don't have the capability to test like you but in my every day use in a well ventilated case it has done very well. I don't know about torture test thermals but with stock fan curve in games I can't hear the fans over system fans. Don't recall exact temps to be honest but think it was around 70C give or take some after a long gaming session. Not scientific...just some experience from a novice.
Asus TUF be like:
Trust
Us
Fam
Steve: Why you sweating so much?
Steve: mentions 20 min GN rant.
Me: All hands to battle stations. Incoming shit show.
That is gonna be a video to see.
am prepping for GN Tech Jesus to rain down hellfire and brimstone..... but also hoping for Tech Jesus Steve to recommend/do tweaks to make the vid card better.
ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS? Yes please!
ASUS TUF GAMING X3 RX 5700 XT? Hell no!
Wtf i am about to do a TUF themed Build... What now? 😭
@@markusbraunholz2220 STRIX?😁
So Steve I guess you could say this card is a 'tough' sell?
Ok, let myself out now.
* Smack!!! *
Thank you for the review of this product. Unfortunately I did purchase this card and was seeing the same issues you highlighted. I did rma the tuf card and went with the red devil instead. Thank you for bringing light on to this card to warn potential buyers.
I want a trust worthy Red Dragon review :( PowerColor, pls.
Check gamers nexus or jayztwocents one of them did a review i think
get the red devil, its wroth, or nitro+
@@chinchy111 Nope, only the non-XT
Not a review but I ran furmark for 10 minutes on the OC bios profile, using the red dragon 5700xt in a Silentbase 600 case (not the best ventilated to be sure!) max system temp as reported from the motherboard is 31c - max temps as reported by hwinfo were as follows: GPU temp 74c Memory Junction 86c GPU VR VDDC 71c GPU Hot Spot 93c with a max clock of 1612mhz
@@ecophreak1 1612mhz for an xt? That's sounds very low
You guys really do fulfill an absolutely essential role for people who are trying to buy products with money they worked for. Im grateful there are channels like yours and frankly people like you to make sure the sheeple dont get hoodwinked. Keep up the great work, i love you guys! This is a great counterpunch and a great way to get these large companies attention and let them know they cant pull fast ones on consumers. You know the worst part about all of this is that pc enthusiasts are some of the smarter people out there in the world and these companies still try garbage like this. Just imagine what the rest of the items you buy and use are really like and how much unbelievable greed is responsible for fueling such dishonesty and shoddy workmanship and corner cutting. Thanks for representing us HardwareUnboxed!
Thank you for being honest we need more reviews like this Again Thank you!
Thank you, Steve. Thank goodness I ended up buying the Gigabyte model 2 weeks ago, based on good reviews from both you and GN Steve. Glad I listened to my gut and stayed away from this one. Appreciate the work that you and Tim do for us. :)
woaw :D I laughed so much on this video. Thanks Steve :D Btw how are we going to be "informed" about the strix? will there be a new video about it or just something on patreon?
A video once Asus roll it out.
Mind blown here! Too bad, it has fairly good asthetic but in 2019 using disconnected thin cooling plate just to cool the memory or VRM these day should be considered red flag. EVGA used this approach with their ACX 3.0 in the past and it was disaster, and this? Thanks for bringing this up Steve!
How does xfx thicc 2, asus tuf and Kardashians relate?
Not tim : "They have been Artificially THICCKEND for EXTRA marketing purposes"
THICC in name only.
All porcelain and nothing else
what about evoke?
*N O T T I M*
TY Steve. You are legit cool guy for doing this reviews for us! Fair and square! I wonder if other well sponsored reviewers will mention 104 degree DDR6..
What's interesting is that you are the first notable reviewer to do a video on the TUF 5700XT
This is the video that roasted ASUS so hard, they pulled a full redemption arc on their Big Navi and Ampere cards, especially on the TUF Gaming series.
Now, they are literally the best in thermal performance.
Thanks for roasting them to their senses!
Bought RX 6800 XT and it *can't* get hot at all.
OMG my lanta where the hell is the MSI mech version review lol
should've watched the vid first huh.
Thanks for the video.
How bout' another Almond Palmer....ROOM TEMP.
Just signed up for your patreon. Thank you so much for all the work you guys do. I'm constantly amazed at the number of vids y'all make, and I've been meaning to join but always put it off. This video made me stop procrastinating and finally sign up!
Thanks mate and welcome aboard!
So glad i went with the MSI Gaming X version!
I'd go for that too.
The most silent 5700xt and still one of the top performers in temperatures!
You know you're a legit reviewer when manufacturers avoid you and not because of inappropriate misconducts.
Nice Video Steve! Is it possible to "fix" the card?
1-Add more heatsink
2-Waste money
3-Not Stonks
Nice video Steve. I liked your little intro story. You also didn't hold back in what you wanted to review after the manufacturer didn't want to send the Tuff GPU out to you. Hopefully the videos you present to consumers will force manufacturers to take a second look at their products or come forward quicker with the fixes. I had actually bought an Asus RX 5700 XT before you reviewed it and it turned out to be faulty. I could be getting the Sapphire Nitro+ instead, although I would be interested in seeing the Asus fix. Good content as always.
Asus recently has been just having bad relationships with amd as of this year im suspecting theyre doing this on purpose lol.
Why would they sabotage profits and r&d costs and marketing. Maybe it's just a bad batch as in GPP bad.
@@spinkick9270 im obviously being facetious im not oblivious to that. But they really have rode off anchoring themselves with AMDs 7nm line.
I completely agree could this be the effect of the GPP I could be wrong though. I'd go the Sapphire route but I'm not into the way AMD launches GPUs 2 GPUs this year 2 GPUs next year no more complete line up like we are used to this crappy.
That would be so moronic, not even Asus would do that on purpose.
Thank you so much for just putting it in the title instead of click-baiting folk.
And I am just sitting here and waiting for the Aorus premium edition
That's why hardware unboxed is so important , they don't give a damn about manufacturers and just tell consumers the truth , i love you guys!
Aw, I bought this card like 30 days ago as then there were no reviews and i just assumed asus was a reliable brand :( now im sad
i rarely upvote videos, but i am for the transparency at the beginning of this one!
wanted to buy the TUF but waited for your review. Thanks for finally reviewing it. Wont buy it now. I will get the Gigabyte 5700xt. Love your work and keep doing your thing :D
Get the Red Devil or Sapphire instead. I'd go with the Sapphire because of that Trixx Boost app, but the Red Devil one is good too.
FenixROFL same, glad HWU made this video, I was between gigabyte and the red devil but really liked the TUF look, especially since I was going to get the TUF x570 which is one of HWU recommendations in the $200 range, to match GPU with the MB but oh well, gigabyte it is
@@4m470 Well the RedDevil cost around 30€ more. Wont spend that much more for it
Good choice, the Gigabyte Gaming and Sapphire Pulse seem to be the best 5700XT's. The Red Devil and Nitro+ are nice, but too expensive. The whole point of the 5700XT is performance/$ and at $440-450+ it doesn't make as much sense anymore. At that point you might as well pay the extra $50 for an entry level 2070 Super.
also, this is one of best reviews of product with spicy overall details ive seen recently. Keeps me very sure that subscribing to you back in 2017 was very good idea. Keep it up Steve. lots of love from Europe!
They really let the TUF branding to shit eh. I love their Sabertooth stuff.
Sabertooth was something else. TUF is budget trash.
You being honest and critical about products makes it that manuafacturers are weary about sending their product. Instead they should just freaking improve their coolers xD
Asus: Hit or miss, I guess we always miss, huh?
they did hit. themselves in the foot yes. :p
Not a subscriber, but one of mine watched this and told me...send it back. I laughed. So then I had to check this out...and see if there was anything in the video I agree with. I have had zero issues with this card. I have it in a really well ventilated case and it has run cool. I don't find it that loud and after putting the dB reader up against the fans...still don't find it that loud. Very high FPS for a card that cost me $368. I have about 12 other GPU's including some RTX 2070 Super and 2060 Super. I find this to be the best deal on graphics card. I have paired it with an I9-9900kf as well as a Ryzen with x570 motherboard. It has not failed to impress me. Hate to see this card get a bad name since one person with lots of subs doesn't like it.
-AMD Reference 5700xt: my temps are and will be the highest , period .
-ASUS TUF: HOLD MY GDDR6
Awsome, review. Very glad you did it. Big wave to your patrons :)
i can already hear nvidia fanboys saying look how bad this card is and i can already hear amd fanboys saying its not a fair comparison and i can already hear asus fanboys saying its flawless and that asus priced it too low for what is undoubtedly pure perfection.
I'd say you've just about covered all bases there :)
@@Hardwareunboxed :)
One of the things that baffles me is that when most people understand we have to cut back on wasting resources, products like this are still being manufactured and sold. If a product is this bad why make it at all? Great video keep up the good work!
I guess its having a TUF time getting cooled during gaming. 😅 was looking forward to an AMD - TUF Gaming themed pc build. 😞
Thanks once again for the PSA.
Happy to be a patreon, still enjoying your videos and integrity behind it. 👍
THICC2 : *i am the worst 5700XT*
TUF : *hold my heat circulation*
Thanks for the video!
I helped my friend to choose parts for his PC and the only RX5700XT available was the one in the video so i thought it can't be worse than the reference card... Well i'm glad he didn't buy parts for his PC yet and i told him to buy another RX5700XT card.
"you'll be in for a 20 minute rant video from GN." I can't wait LMAO.
I already chose the strix rx5700 OC edition 8gb a few days ago for my first gaming build, not got all my parts yet, but it came in the post today geez this thing is sexy and heavy af , hope I didn't make a boo boo getting this card, paid £409 from amazon which was cheaper than everyone at the time here in the UK , now to just find £700 more to Finnish this beast build 😁 thanks for the heads up tho , we appreciate you brother 😎
"In search of incredible (heat)"
Seriously, their gaming laptops and some of their GPU has temperature issues due to its design...
Cutting too many corners.
agree asus have some bad products returned 2 laptops this year alone
You should see the "heatsink" in the Vivobook X512.
Should still grab the power color cards for reviews! The few I've seen have been promising but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say about them!
How many 5700xt cards do you have? Maybe 5700 :)
It is obvious that Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexus make honest reviews and don't pull punches. Gotta like that.
Well I was just arguing with someone why Asus is a rip-off. Thank you Steve!
You really can't make generalizations about brands. When it comes to X570 board for example Asus have the most bang for buck board whereas here its an absolute rip-off. MSI have amazing B450 boards and god awful X570 boards.
@@rdmz135 the thing is none of the budget x570 are worth it and easily gets outshined by b450 and x470
And a cherry on top they don't have an annoying fan
@@rdmz135 yep. They are *generally* a rip-off. That's the point pepe the frog.
@@turkepic3637 Well I can agree that their "ROG" branded stuff is almost always a rip-off. The rest of their products are fine. This card is an anomaly. It just flat-out sucks.
Thanks Steve! As a seller its important to know if you are selling good stuff and your channel helps keep folks like me honest :)
Only asus or msi can make worse than reference cards.
Thank you Steve!~ This was the card I actually planned on going with! I'll go with Sapphire now.
Thank you. I cancelled my order :)
Hi..What did u buy next??
Steve... you and Tim are honorable and we will always come to you for unbiased, honest reviews. Thank you. Patreon member.
It has to be tuf, when it's so hot......
It's probably TUF in name only.
Kudos to you guys, as I was 3 days away from ordering the Asus tuff 5700xt due to it's price and cooling solution. Incredible that a 3 fan solution can be worse than reference, normally I judge a person not by their mistakes but by what they do about it afterwards. This doesn't work for companies like Asus as they would have already discovered how bad it was, but some fool made the mistake of thinking they would release it anyway - look after your customers and the profits will come, put profit first and watch your brand loyalty (and profit) dwindle.
I wold like to show my appreciation of your efforts by writing this comment. Thank you for your dedication towards trying showing us as much as you possibly can.
I love that this got reviewed, talk about a public service announcement this turned out to be: because yeah, this card LOOKS great, but damn is it really bad!
Asus: "we need to make this graphics card cheaper, what can we put on the memory heatsinks?"
Asus employee: *trying to silently open a sandwich wrapped in tin foil*
Asus: GOOD IDEA
It reminds me of my own experience back in 2008. I use to be a big ASUS fanboy before that. I bought an ASUS Radeon 4670 graphics card. I did not even considered other brands as believed I would get a quality card for the extra money I payed. The card had an extremely loud fan and had no fan control. It was always stuck on max fan speed. From that day on wards I tend to avoid ASUS products unless I have no other choice. If I can't see a review of something I assume it is bad and I will buy something that had been reviewed. Thanks guys for helping us buyers.
Tuff luck Asus. ^_^
I always just assumed their TUF line were garbage products meant to "gotcha" unsuspecting "gamers". Much like the MSI Armor cards. I haven't felt very fondly of ASUS in quite awhile. I just get this vibe that they feel much to highly of their ROG brand that they've taken on a bit of an Apple complex. Didn't they also have some fiasco with the Strix Vega cards not contacting the HBM properly?
MSI: "My EVOKE is the works 5700 XT card!"
XFX: "No my THICC II is the worst card!"
Asus: "Pheh...amateurs..."
I bought the reference card, never opened it because of your videos. I wanted the Red Devil but it wasn't available. So I bought the XFX thicc II. It ran hot and loud so I sent it back. Waiting for my lowered priced red devil to arrive on Friday.
Holy Molly, is this even legal? You're selling a component out of spec :s
Just got the non-EVO card yesterday, new stock from amazon UK (expected EVO but..) tested v2 default and efficiency bios - efficiency just limit power to 180W which isn’t actually working in our favour. Why is that? So.. card actually works just fine with 86-90C on memory if you adjust curve to around 50% 2.5k rpm to stay there. 30% used by default is just not enough to put some airflow. I contacted ASUS and will seek for some help, regardless it was cheap at £260 and I’ll keep it.
The TUF line used to be almost top of the line.
Now its reduced to some shady entry level line that scrimps on quality.
Damn glad i watched this video, i was close to decide to get this graphics card. Thank you so much for letting me know youtube guy and the comment section
so glad this game out when it did I was planning to buy this tomorrow for £390 :O
Reminds me of an ASUS AMD card that came out several years ago that only had most of the memory connected to any cooling solutions at all. Temps were taken from the ones with a cooling solution, so you wouldn't know unless you did a tear down of the card. The ASUS Matrix HD 7970 GHz. Blows me away that they failed to properly cool the memory of cards again. You'd think they would have learned.
I always hated choosing a graphics card because of how many different models there are of the same GPU
Videos like yours make it A LOT easier
Thanks for the hard work
God ...I tried to buy this. Thankfully my friend intervened and pointed at pulse. And happy with it so far.
This was very enlightening to see. I bought this card on a whim partly based on its appearance, and because up until this point I had no reason to believe there would be any major issues with the 5700XT cards in general. Unfortunately this card was a bit of a mess for me. It would constantly crash my system to a green screen and force a reboot when I'd tried to play a game or run a benchmark. I couldn't even monitor temperatures, due to it spazzing out once it was under any load that would get the fans seriously spinning. I can also confirm that this thing does get loud Wow! But it makes sense if this was all related to poor thermal performance. I didn't get throttling though, it just would crash or even make the display go blank. I ended up replacing it with an entirely different card. At least it looks nice!😬
Who's doing thumbs down on this? What can you possibly have agenst this video? It's basically a public service. Shame on you.
Asus also pulled a similar set of tricks with their polaris entry level cards. I bought the RX480 8Gb dual-OC card and the heatsync was tiny, the fans were loud and the shroud was needlessly bulky to make the cooler look more effective that it actually was. I eventually gave up and replaced the whole thing with an aftermarket cooler and dropped 35c under full load. I'm glad to see you're calling them out on these kinds of crappy, anti-consumer designs.
Thank you for this video. Almost bought it. God bless you Stevie.