The Downfall of Rory Gilmore
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- The sad progression of Rory Gilmore's downfall.
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Also, please don't take this video too seriously. I'm just a nobody who had too much time on her hands.
Welps, Paris once said that usually valedictorians tend to fail. She proved her right.
Oop
Paris was totally 💯 % correct on this because Rory did fail. Why didn’t she go to grad school it wasn’t like she couldn’t afford it?
They do.
Yesss
Oh shit...is my fate sealed?💀
I mean, dropping out of Yale and giving everything up including her best relationship (with lorelai) and her dream job just bc some old dude told her she didn't have it, kinda proves she didn't have it.
yea. why not prove him wrong? if I got told that about my own dreams, sure i'd feel it badly, but it'd make me want to prove myself more.
^^^ this is really what happened. She was so tightly wound about the rest of her drama, that when he said she did not have it she just completely snapped. And the constant cheating on dean is what really tripped my trigger.
She really got used to getting everything so that when she didn’t get it she left. It’s like that one girl who leaves the group chat for drama and attention and then asks to her put back in
Which was INSANELY out of character. It didn’t make any sense. Rory was supposed to be determined and ambitious.
Exactly. It all depends on how we take it. If suppose in the future she comes across another such person who tells her the same thing. Is she going to drop everything again?
@@madisonh.2992 same!
So basically, Rory peaked in high school.
she's one of *those* girls
My worst fear is that I've already peaked honestly
Ouch, I just realized so did I. 😔
@@sara-vf5xz you can only go up from here :)
@@Tinamaria2114 you can always become better!
Rory is the perfect example of the fact that just because you're educated doesn't mean you're smart...just because you're sarcastic doesnt mean you're wise...in conclusion: *Humble yourself or life will do it for you* ...
Exactly, book smart doesn't always cut it in the real world.
@@mary-anneb2614 I was frustrated that Rory never had other skills than being a bookworm. It would've been interesting for her to explore other skills, such as sports or learning karate
Completely agree. When her school counselor told her that being smart and having good grades wasn't everything and that she needed to socialize more with the students, she (and Lorelai )felt almost offended. Rory never knew how to deal with the real world, she lived in a bubble and those were the consequences
exactly couldn’t of said it better
Life will definitely humble you.
Rory sleeping with Dean while he was married was the worst. The point where I lost respect for her
I remember crying from frustration and just stopped watching it then. Who is this person ??
He was the one who was married its not her fault
@@besos4169 bruh it was BOTH of their faults, she knew he was married
Paloma Rufete yes, that’s how real life works 👍🏼
Alicia G same bro
Jess was literally the only person who ever actually called her on her bs
Because he was the only one who knew her from the start... And around her family.... He knew her truly.
I was cheering for two of them to be together... And after she ruined it... It wasn't the same... To make show last more they separated them... All scenario after became so cringy for me me
And my sister said that Jess actually became more successful than that dumb bitch.
That's one of the main reasons I love him
He's not afraid to call her of... He was always honest about everything and I loved that time he yelled at her after she dropped out of Yale
Yup, and he was willing to pressure her into sex! Whatever happened to that?
Kind of a major moment, yo!
Lindsay's mom, Mitchum, Logan, later on Sandy from SandySays. She just wouldn't listen
The best moment was in season six, when Jess asked her wtf is wrong with her and he doesn't recognise her. I think he was her best boyfriend because he was brutally honest. He wasnt perfect by any means, but at least he called her out for her flaws.
miek chen I did not like Jess in the beginning while I watched the series when it aired but after I rewatched it, Jess is definitely her best boyfriend. He challenged her and didn’t want her to change but to be true to herself. I think Logan and his friends were her downfall. In the Year in the Life, she regressed. She turned into the spoiled teenager she never was but she was in her 30’s. I felt like every character was a shadow of themselves and instead of quirkinesses, being mean was supposed to be funny.
He was too good for in the end though and we know he’s going to be her “Luke” and stick by her
He also made something of himself and grew into a rational adult. We can’t blame a kid for the shitty circumstances he was born into. At least, at the end, he and luke have a strong relationship. That was the highlight of the reboot for me.
Harry's wand but he grew up into a much better person than rory
My mom and I were watching a rerun and mom said she hated that Jesse, and I told her he turns out to be the most decent and upright out of any of her ex boyfriends. Dean commits adultery with her, and Logan too basically.
Also Rory is a terrible friend to Lane throughout most of the series. She's too self absorbed to even consider other people and Lane who is a good friend to her is one of them.
this
Itzamara Vázquez I wouldn’t say she was horrible, just that lane and Rory were forced to the background to fit other storylines like her romances. They were always best friends and that never seemed to change but they just didn’t get enough time to spend together which is normal in real life
I stopped watching this show after s3 but what happens to lane, did she ever come back?
Sabih Malik she has almost zero screen time, but has romances with her bandmates, gets pregnant, moves out of her mothers house and becomes independent and a competent wife/mother while still being there for Rory and Lorelei
The fact that they never come back to Lane not enjoying the first time she has sex and the last thing she says about it is that she won't do it again because it was terrible. So she gets married, gets pregnant immediately from one terrible night of sex and it's never resolved? Bummer for her.
Yeah, Rory's privilege came out more and more as she got older.
Yup
She's her grandma. Should have stayed in the DAR.
The only people who still love this outdated show are dull and entitled bourgeois 30-year-old histrionics and immature party girls whose shallow lives consist of partying, flirting and vacationing.
it only happened after going to Chilton. Her grandparents environment ruined her. They used money to try to control her mom but it ended up destroying her.
she was worshipped too much by her mom and people around her- when she didn't get treated that way she became overly dramatic and couldn't handle it
literally- she was so entitled and for what?
Yes! It was a common theme for her to be called a “special girl” and I feel like the second someone didn’t acknowledge this or feed into this narrative she would act out of character.
@@user-fy1xv6nu3f yeah but that's cus she was their teen sweetheart's baby. They all saw her grow up and wanted her to do well. (Cue Tyra clip lol)
Yeah exactly, she burnt out when she got into the real world. I feel sorry for her tbh
The whole town villianized Dean (a boy in high school) when SHE broke up with HIM. Instead of say "hey guys, I'm the one who broke up with him, can you stop being assholes to him" she just let it happen and acted sad that they broke up. That town was always going above and beyond for both women.
She was literally offered a job at chilton if she gets her masters lol she easily could’ve just done that instead of complain
@GirlGeek723 She's become super entitled. The girl has an easy ride, she knows she doesn't need to earn money because (1) as always, her family will bail her out; and (2) she has trust funds (didn't Lorelai snr leave her money? And her dad and grandfather are sure to have put money aside for her too).
If she was truly 'broke' and needed money she'd take the first job offered to her and be grateful. The 'I'm broke' narrative was annoying. She's regularly travelling overseas, wearing designer clothes, carries a designer bag, chooses to remain unemployed and is in no rush to find a paying job... but is 'broke'.
Her ego got hit because she never became a famous journalist like she wanted
Jewell Smith she wasn’t really famous outside of that one New Yorker article, she was freelance.
oh no but that would mean she would have to *actually do something*, and we all know present Rory jusy wants everything handed to her
That honestly pissed me off.
this girl got an endless about of love and opportunities- from her grandparents, lorelai, literally the whole town and for what? for her to sleep with a married man then get mad when her mom calls her out? for her to drop out just because 1 person said she couldn't make it? everyone on that show would literally sacrifice themselves for her and she'd still go about her selfish ways
preach.
Thats exactly the reason why people who have all the attention and opportunities rarely appreciate them.because all those things don't help building a character, difficulties and obstacles make one's character in real life,and i appreciate the honesty of the writers in that show.
Lorelai had wealth and a lot of opportunities and she gave that all up for freedom. Rory had EVERYTHING Lorelai had and more; support from an entire town, loving grandparents, good education, a supportive mother, and she even had freedom. And the only reason she gave it up wasn't because she had something to fight for like Lorelai did, but because she was discouraged by Mitchum. If she really did have it, she would've gotten back on her feet and proven him wrong but she cried to her grandparents.
She got love but all that love was quite self-serving and dishonest. People fawned over her, they didn’t let her grow.
in season seven when rory had a meltdown she blames lorelai because lorelai said she can get anything she wanted
Rory sleeping with Dean was soooo out of character, as Alexis said. I mean come on, girlie made no decisions without doing pro and cons lists. To me, that’s when her downfall started for me too ugh
She became her mom
@Tara S. she choose the guy on the motorcycle
Was it though? She cheated on Dean with Jess
I understand that it was a moment where love took over her and she felt like the moment was perfect but it's the fact that she then started DATING Dean and still got feelings for Logan. Almost like she gets bored from a single relationship...ugh
she was really drunk tho
jess’s character development was the only reason i rewatched the show again
Jess and Luke's relationship was the only reason I watched and rewatched certain bits.
i’ve rewatched it 5 times all for jess
@@bigfootisnotanerd Yeah I've only rewatched the seasons that Jess is in. I loved the Jess and Luke relationship.
in that episode with jess in LA it was supposed to be a pilot for a spin off on just his character development and they didn’t do it smh :((
really,me too
does anyone remember when she wrote that article about "entitled, boring and obnoxious rich kids" after Logan's party and he calls her out and tells her she is just the same as them, she went to preppy school, got in ivy league and has a rich family (grandparents and father) and she was just so mean she didn't even realize it?
yes!! the unselfawareness is infuriating. she made fun of logan for having a trust fund as if she didn't have one too??
Yeah and remember the scene where Jess scolds her for being with Logan and points out how they used to make fun of guys like Logan. So judgemental on their part but the minute someone judged them they would get all offended.
One of my favorite scenes! He said the truth too. Even pointed out that HE was paying the rent and providing her a place to stay.
Jess calls her out on this when he asks her why she dropped out of Yale
@@vedantshah9480 yes and Jess is also the one that a few episodes before that asks her to quit Yale and run away with him.
When Logan’s dad said she didn’t have it, the coherent thing to do was prove him wrong! Like she has done it in the past, she had it, but she gave up after one negative opinion
yes like the whole story on the repaving of the chilton car park! it would have been possible!
@@mooble1325 true. makes me sense with her character but i guess all her character already went out the door!
Also like his opinion didn't come out of nowhere. She pretty much was an assistant at the paper, never pitched in with ideas.
this! like this was not rory at all it made her very unlikable lol
But that totally makes sense for her character because she was wayyy too spoiled and worshiped by her mother and people around here, that when she didn't get the same type of response from someone else she just totally gave up on everything...
I think Rory’s downfall started when she liked Jess but kept stringing Dean along...
Blueberry Blossom exactly! That’s the point where she started wilding
Yessss
Blueberry Blossom Her mom, love her so much, never really told her that she should get her shit together. She never sat her down and told her to break up with him and be herself and focus. She jumped from man to man to man.
Yes!!!! I don't like Jess. He's so rude and had this bad boy profile. Totally different from her. I think he changed her
@@catharine6867 I think Logan was the one who really changed her. She was pretty much still herself, when she dated Jess.
Remember in Season 1 when Rory wrote a beautiful piece about repaving the parking lot because she so badly wanted to be a writer that she would literally do anything...Oh how far they moved away from that...
Yeah it kind of stings when in her first year of college she's complaining about the topics she has to report on cuz 'they aren't very interesting' when she's totally aced that challenge before!
Exactly. Chilton Rory was determined to challenge herself in every field. I think her downfall is mostly because the power of money poisoned her. Maybe Lorelei should have never asked her parents for money. Rory was clearly a humble and way better person before entering that world. She could have been a journalist even without having to go to an Ivy league. But she was too coddled
@@eleanorkim0390ohh that makes sense. It's interesting that the very first episode of the show is about Lorelai asking her parents for money, because she thought it would help Rory's future.
The money eventually is exactly what caused her downfall.
If she had remained at her old school and went to a slightly less prestigeous college, she would have been surrounded with people like Lane and Jess who would keep her grounded.
I can’t even continue watching season 5 because I get frustrated with Rory. She used to be my favorite character. Now I just rewatch the first two seasons because it was perfecttt
I tried so hard to finish the show but it became a chore because of how annoying Rory became.
It's a human nature
You can watch the show for Lorelei then lol ... she was my favorite 🥰
Well, life and people aren't perfect. It's those mistakes that make Rory relatable as a human being.
Yep, I've only ever watched the first 3 seasons 😂
Ngl. Logans dad was kinda right at the fact that Rory didn’t “Have it,” since she ends up lowkey sucking at writing in the netflix reboot.
Rory didn’t write the reboot...
@@natalyaporter5730 think she means that she was sucky at writing within the reboot not that she was the one writing the reboot lmao
I think it is not that she was bad writter but that she graduated right into recesion and also around the time written media was going through a change into internet form plus she was expected by her family and her to excell after school and that she was not ready for real life. I like that she was not perfect it is more realistic. She had to be grounded since her mother was so childish and so she is acting more like a teenager would later on because she could not before.
Natalya Porter haha yea I know, I meant Rory wasn’t a good writer within the reboot (in my opinion of course)
tutyketdoll Thats also a very good point!
I mean let’s be honest, Lorelai had too much control and rules growing up, so she raised Rory without any... this is just the result of a Child that always gets what she wants and never gets discipline
@Fatoumata Cisse i disagree. i think she just wanted what's best for rory and she wanted rory to do better than what she did so that she could have a better life. i mean lorelai had many flaws but at the end of the day she would do anything just so her daughter could have the best life even though rory sometimes doesn't seem to appreciate it but even then lorelai remained being a good mom.
yesss
I think she wanted to be the best for Rory but ended up being one of the worst things for her
And if you think about it lorelai raised Rory that way just to annoy her parents and b like “hey look at my perfect kid who is going to be so successful in the real world and I didn’t even had to discipline her”
exactly
ONE person told her she wouldn't be good enough to be a journalist and she drops out of Yale says a lot. probably the first time she was told that she couldnt do something. she's so entitled and spoiled, and everyone treated her like she was perfect and the most special girl in stars hollow, all because she didn't wear makeup and liked books
It wasn’t the fact that ONE person criticized her, it was WHO criticized her. She had a breakdown/identity crisis - something that happens all the time. I wouldn’t call her spoiled because of that.
@@natalyaporter5730 she is tho. shes entitled and always thinks she deserves everything because people have enabled her
@@natalyaporter5730 maybe not because of that, but she still is absurdly spoiled
I think the fact that Lorelai always used to tell her she’s incredibly special and can do anything had to do with this :/ always telling a child they’re incredibly unique in a world that may not find them unique at all can do them harm.
aurora so was her mom she treated her parents bad!!! So f annoying
I think she “hated” her grandparents life style but also always considered them as a fall back option. If you hate it so much, why would you ask them for MONEY?
This is so true. At least her mom had the integrity to stay true and authentic to who she was. She would do everything she could to support herself and Rory independently, and would ONLY turn to Emily and Richard if money was needed for her daughter (not for selfish/non-vital reasons). Lorelai was the true queen of the series to be honest.
@@sannaizmirlian5174 always was. 👑 to be fair she only ever took money for private school as a stepping stone for Rory to achieve her dreams knowing if she came from a humble school she'd have to work as hard as she did for her accomplishments (also probably not get accepted into an Ivy?)...but ofc that back fired.
Because she basically turned into her mum, like she slowly did the whole show. Lorelie always relied on her parents, whilst also hating them and being spiteful. Rory began to too
I knew a guy who always talked bad about his father but related on his money until his 30ies. And used to look down on me in pity because I had to work during college! Spoiled!
she literally used them
Stop posting more accurate comments guys! I'm tired of liking them...
LOL same here
lmaoo same😭
lmfao you’re not the only one 😭
i don’t know how she’s broke when she was given a quarter million from her great grandmother when she was 25 then another one from emily and richard
and probably from her father because hi is like millionaire now or something like that
AD yes and she didn’t have student loans as chris paid for yale
Mia Smith i think she’s spoiled and they ruined her character completely
I didn't even think about that. Yeah how is she broke? Even if she did theoretically blow through all of that money, her grandmother and her dad still have a ton of money. Is she too prideful to ask?
Lynzie Johnson plus she was always careful with money, i would of thought she of used the money for business or whatever instead of nothing
Her downfall was definitely the first time her and Dean broke up. And she refused to say what happened, and watched everyone vilify him in Stars Hollow without even telling them he didn’t do anything wrong because she was “upset”. I always found that so horrible and selfish and was definitely a testament to how she would forever view herself as the victim in any situation.
yes!!! she let everyone accuse dean of being a jerk, when all he did was express his feelings towards her. that was the first time i disliked rory, and then she redeemed herself and then i started disliking her again after she kissed jess
Bruh dean was a dick for dumping her just because she didn't say "I love you back" like literally it was just THREE MONTHS they been together and he threw a bitch temper tantrum like brah some people need more time to say I love you back so when he got mad it was so messed up and when she did finally did say "I love you, you idiot" it felt so forced anyways dean sucks but the downfall of rory came when Jess came and when she cheated on dean with jess...
@@tacomartinez9469 i agree that it was too soon, but dean was a kid that was head over heels for a girl for the first time, he doesn’t know how to rationally go through things. and the fact that rory knew he loved her, and then decided that everyone in town should continue to call him a jerk, when all he did was express his feelings was selfish and wrong
@sasha yess!! I totally agree! Yes, dean was too soon to say I love you but Rory shouldn’t have treated him like that. She could have told everyone the truth. Then after they get back together, she treated him like trash when she was already falling in love with Jess. And then AGAIN when she slept with him whilst he was still married and their brief relationship after that. Dean didn’t deserve to have that treatment. Rory lost her sense of judgment during college. She could’ve known better to not sleep with a married man and steal a yacht because she was upset. Those events, especially dropping out of college, lost my respect for this character.
Seriously, someone needs to make a list of all the bad things she did lmao
rory is whatever, i’m still heartbroken over lane
what happened?
They did her so dirty
@@kaaaaareeeeen but why
@@Andrea-rj7lp they made her pregnant with twins after having sex once and made her completely afraid of having sex again, and we got almost nothing of screen time of her in the revival
@@kaaaaareeeeen whaaaat omg that is so bad, I never finished the series because I got bored, but that just does not sound like Lane at all. Thank you for explaining!
What made it so frustrating for me is the fact that her mother never put her in her place. When it came to the affair, when it came to how horrible she was treating Dean while at the same time pursuing Jess, and then in the revival not really saying anything about her second affair, and then being ok and even making jokes about her treating her sweet considerate boyfriend like crap. Lorelai acting like a real mother (at least when it's important) would have made a real difference for me throughout all of Rory's bad decisions. Also in the revival...her constantly pretending to be broke? She had a trust fund, I'm sure her grandfather left her a significant amount in his will, she has a millionaire father that keeps trying to throw money at her, her grandmother, and a millionaire lover. I mean...come on now.
yesss!! in easy A, even Olives mother spoke to her about what’s going on around school,
Lorelei did get upset with her for sleeping with dean though, that’s when they had a huge fight
S K And yet she then went to her and they made up and Rory has not learned anything at all. Getting mad (finally) was just step one. Rory needed consequences but she did not get them and Lorelei did not give any.
Lorelai has never told rory off or made her pay for her mistakes. When she and Jess got into an accident, she screamed at luke about Jess but rory was not to be blamed. And when she stopped out of yale, she left rory alone to figure it out but the minute rory decides to go back to take, Lorelai runs and hugs her and all is well, no one is upset, rory never has to make up for anything or earn anyone's trust. Lorelai never reprimanded her for stealing the boat or stringing along a boyfriend or cheating on him with Logan or having a one night stand. Rory gets what she wants and it's always someone else's fault.
Also Lorelei had an inn and Luke had a diner. The fact they made her look like she was broke just made her look more spoiled and not relatable. Everyone one around was somewhat rich.
I feel like bc she grew up in a home where her mother was a friend more than a parent, she acted as if she couldn’t be disciplined, or was above the law at times. When she dropped out and her mom confronted her, she completely exploded at her and Lorelei ended up having to “win” her back. Rory has always felt entitled bc of how Lorelei raised her.
Not only Lorelei, but the entire TOWN had Rory up on a completely undeserved pedestal.
Exactly! And when Rory stole a boat and got arrested, no one even cared. Lorelai was completely ok that Rory stole a boat, and it was HER idea! The only punishment she got was community service hours, and that's a good punishment, but nobody in her life disciplined her for something that was bad. That bothered me so much
I completely agree with you! Lorelai basically taught Rory that she was incapable of doing wrong. For example, when she convinced Logan to help her steal a boat, Lorelai immediately blamed Logan and refused to acknowledge that Rory had anything to do with it.
Glad someone finally said it; Lorelai was a bad mother. Half the time Rory had to mother her.
Lorelai never encouraged Rory to be responsible for her actions. She always blamed everybody else and cotton wooled Rory, telling everyone - including Rory - how perfect she was and was "special". She created a monster!
the first thing that really got me annoyed was when lorelai and the entire town started hating dean just bc they broke up (bc rory didnt say i love you too and never made time for him) to the point where luke, a grown man, tried to have a fist fight with dean. then lorelai and the whole town did the same thing with jess as soon as things got bad with him and rory. like that was just so uncomfortable to me that all these adults were so invested in high school relationships and lorelai would threaten them and shit and they would all harass these KIDS just bc rory is a princess to all of them. like omg theyre high schoolers, ofc theyre gonna deal with heartbreak and bad relationships, adults have no place in fixing that or seeking revenge.
I could understand Lorelai's behavior a little bit because that's her daughter but Luke straight up trying to fight him was goddamn ridiculous. That's a grown ass man putting hands on a high school kid. That's fucked up.
@@amyrat151 But them getting into that car crash and Lorelai yelling at Luke always pissed me off I understand she was worried mom, but at the end of the day Jesse is his family. What did she want him to do?
@@amyrat151 woah that lady blamed the boy rory was with whenever she messes up
@@naomibeautymind6226 I wasn't too upset at that, honestly. With a lot of parents when their child is at all hurt or in danger, their ability to think beyond that often goes right out the window. I think that was an established part of Lorelai's character by that point. The audience isn't supposed to be on either Luke or Lorelai's side in that situation really, since both of them are acting within the boundaries of their characteristics.
THIS IS SO TRUE
The S4 thing was NOT out of character. Rory had been building up to that for at least a season and we've seen her cheat before. She's never been given consequences for her actions either because she was raised by a teenager who was desperate to be best friends with her. You can't be your kid's best friend because when they DO make mistakes, they don't respect your authority as a parent. Rory almost never faces consequences and is constantly told how great she is by everyone. Ugh.
Exactly! Very well said!
My mom and I are best friends. She was 32 when she got pregnant... I respect her more than anything, when I make a mistake I do respect and fully understand her authority. The problem isn’t being best friends with your parent. The problem is not understanding that they are your parents above everything else. Lorelai’s biggest mistake when raising Rory was putting the best friend relationship above the mother-daughter relationship. You don’t have to be a Mrs Kim, but being a Lorelai isn’t the right call either. My mom means the world to me, I have never and will never disrespect her authority. Mrs Kim never knew what was going on with Lane. She never knew her own daughter’s taste in music, the boys she was interested in, her aspirations, her hobbies, simply because Lane couldn’t talk to her. You must be able to talk to your parents. Lane could be depressed and she wouldn’t know. Lane could be suicidal and she wouldn’t know. Lane got drunk and she never knew, if Lane did drugs or had sex as a teenager, she wouldn’t know. They were complete strangers living under the same roof. As a parent, you have to find a balance between Mrs Kim and Lorelai
agreed, also hermione is a queen
Mary Christmas you just spit serious facts
@@itsmemiaa738 exactly!
My hot take: so I was devastated the first time I watched Gilmore Girls because I related to Rory and then she turned into trash, however, I think the show is a lot better if you believe the theme/moral isn't how a young girl found herself, but how money and privilege ruined her character.
I totally agree!!
I would like to start a class war
I feel the exact same way you do, but about Luke..so dissapointing
i agree but i don’t think that this was the supposed theme of the series. While this would have been good, it was clearly not what the writers were going for.
is it a very good concept to go by, tops off to the writers for being real, and taking that risk, going by a concept that people would usually not want
I think Rory's story is actually perfectly realistic.
What happens to Rory is what happens to many gifted kids when they fail. Intelligent people do not know how to cope with failure because they have performed so well through their lives that they simply cannot comprehend the situation. The concept of failure is alien to their minds. I find her short Yale dropout and her story in the revival to be realistic. She simply is unable to deal with her failure and expects to be handed everything. Through the whole show, everyone bombards Rory with comments about her greatness. She cannot comprehend being inferior because her entire life she has heard she is superior. Just my opinion.
Exactly, Rory's downfall is like a warning. As a "gifted" kid myself, I've been watching my life falling apart since I started college, because I been failing, and I never knew failure. But I will always keep in mind how Rory ended up and I think having her as a reference of what I don't want to become has helped me when it comes to decision making, and overall, I think I'll be alright.
(Sorry if I didn't use some phrases correctly, English is not my first language)
@@Andrea-kg7vv English isn't my first language either, so don't worry.
I wasn't a gifted kid at all, but I was treated like one by my family. I kind of understand the struggle.
yeah actually there are signs or sneak peeks of this in season one if you think about it like when she got a D on her test and then was late for school she literally lost it
Yupp struggled with this and also its a tough identity to let go of. Seeing it with so many younger kids around me too. Most parents don't approach the growth mibdset
“Intelligent people”? No. People who are of average intelligence who have been told constantly that they are incredibly intelligent? Yes.
If Rory was going to be with Logan ten years after, she might as well have married him
But...that was so strange. They were 21 and he proposed? Why???
@@lillithsternin7428 I agree, I don't think they should've gotten married, but they were supposed to break up. Them being together in the revival after ten years didn't make sense.
@@lillithsternin7428 Yeah that was just bad writing from people of a different generation. Normal millennials would have just continued to date, and then gotten engaged around 25-28 or so
Her turning down his proposal made no sense. She could easily have said "Yes," and they could have been engaged for 4 years, there was no rush to get married. He didn't say, "marry me tomorrow," he just asked her to get married at some point in the future. She literally had no good reason to turn him down. It was stupid writing, but this show had a lot of that.
@@a.madison9625 I think Logan is similar to Rory's dad, both rich and a bit immature. I think Rory always wanted someone like Jess, the same way Lolerai wanted someone like Luke. Someone that is more practical and simple. Someone you can count on
i don't think anything she did in later seasons was "out of character". rory grew up with lorelai as her best friend and wasn't used to being punished - they had never fought before the pilot episode and rory constantly surrounded by lorelai saying how good a kid she was. which she probably was, but as she got older and started making bad decisions i think she justified those choices in her mind because she was a "good person" despite her "mistake". but then that one mistake turned into two, and then it became her general behavior
Lauren E u definitely see that in the car crash with jess🙄
Yes yes!!
I agree , her mom wasn't a good mom and she praises her no matter what and she maid everybody in town treating her like she was perfect
I envied rory for her best friend mom when I was a late teen. It seemed like a dream come true to have such a deep and open relationship with your mother. Now that I'm a mother myself I quickly realized, that I cannot be that kind of friend mom if I want my kids to be independent, strong, caring, passionate, driven, smart and loving people. Being their best friend would mean to not lead them to their best potential. It would be endlessly more fun and WAY easier, but i cannot justify such a selfish path. It would be highly irresponsible of me
@@emiliana1767 for me the most funny thing is that at the end Emily is much better mother than Lorelei. She raised strong, independent women, when Lorelei raised spoil, self-absorbed child-woman
The funny thing is, I feel like if she would've said yes to Logan a lot of things would fall into place. She'd be just like her grandparents, loving luxury and that lifestyle, as we've seen especially when she dropped out, and that lifestyle would've just skipped a generation (her mum). I'd feel for her mum, because she has worked her butt off to get where she is, without her parents. When it came to money it was always for Rory (tuition from her parents, and the money from Rory's dad). On the other hand, I kind of liked that her life was a complete mess at some point, bc some people are just only school smart, but it was just too much. The awe of the town for that kid was also way too much.
Also the best character of the show will always be Luke. That guy has so much love for the people he cares about.
Exactly!!!
Finally someone said what had to be said. Luke was the best!
I also love Lane so much. So inspiring. It's a pity she ended up not having a better development, i kinda wanted her to go out more to pursue the music career instead of ending up pregnant from Zach.
i dont think she would be happy if she said to logan. she enjoys the luxury but she never felt fulfilled by it and with her childhood, she'll never fully fel comfortable in it. and with how logan's character turned out in the revival, i can see them having a depressing marriage. ASP never wrote S7 so logan in S7 wasn't who he was meant to be so taking in S5-6 plus revival logan, it doesn't look good imo
and when she kept acting like she was better than the early thirties gang or whatever they were called even though she was in the EXACT SAME SITUATION i cant oml
lilith greta ikr i was just about to say that
Oh man, YES. It still bothers me that that group was just propped as a joke when she could have really used their help to rebuild the town newspaper. All of them needed a job, she needed the help and yet, she's too above it apparently. It was such an easy solution and it would have helped to ground her a little bit.
HAHAA I REMEMBER THAT
The thirty something gang seemed nice but she was "not back" and too good for them. But when the life and death brigade appears for yet another futile outing she is all for it... I get so nervous I cannot....
Beth Darvell facctttsss
Rory’s downfall began when she skipped school to go to NYC to visit Jess, a little punk, and missed her mom’s graduation. She unraveled after that.
Hi! I'm new to the show, now through S3. I find the character selfish and spoiled from the very beginning. When she has the accident with the deer, Lorelei shouts at Mr Charleston and demands special treatment to her daughter. Why? Coudn't she handle the consequences of an accident? It was not her fault, but the rules of the school were supposed to be the same for everyone. She always has her mother or her grandparents to solve her problems, so it's kind of expectable she doesn't take responsability for anything, never. She goes to NY to see Jess and misses her mother's graduation (?) and then kisses Jess while still dating Dean. The main aspects of this character people complain seeing in the Revival could be seen at the very beginning of the series.
Sadly, that was the first glimpse of what she would become in the following seasons, only we didn´t know that she´d end up being such a spoiled, unrelatable and selfish woman. God, what a waste.
Nailed it 👌
HeatherHotcakes perioddddddd
@@jesusdelcanto9715 I think a 16 year od being in a car accident deserves to be able to take the test. Not right then and she should not have flipped out in the class, but come on "the consquences of an accident" it was an accident! I'd be pissed off too if the school wouldn't let me daughter take an exam because she was in an accident.
I honestly like to pretend like that Netflix mini-series never happened. It was *that* bad.
sTaRs HoLlOw the MUSICAL
So true lol I was so excited to watch it, they had so much potential to make things right but bleh
Same! i liked how season 7 ended even though i didnt love it..the netflix special doesnt exist! lol i was so disappointed
I didn't even watch it because my sister did and she hated it and warned me not to.
@@francescaconsoli7050 yes don’t bother!! lol
Yes....fully agree with you....but now It is more realistic. She was spoiled and that is the consequence
agreeeeeed
exactly
i agree but it’s a show
@@elisabethjones9576 its a show for a reason.
HOW WAS SHE SPOILED WHATTT
She's relatable to people who don't have their shit together despite all the "potential" you supposedly had.
I relate to her cause I am here watching TH-cam instead of studying for my midterms in my elite university’s dorm. I will later lay in my bed trying to understand why I am failing
Exactly. In some ways, I could empathize with Rory because she embodies the failure that I have become because of my bad decisions and attitude.
I relate, I make mistakes that change my expected life too.
I feel attacked lmao
@@denizgul6131 don't be too hard on yourself. There is no right or wrong way in life. Listen to all of your instincts and maybe reach out for support from friend, family or on campus psychologists. I did it during university. My family docs actually understood very well my situation. I hope you can find someone you can talk to. What you are feeling is a feedback mechanism.
she literally tries to steal a yacht... the accEPTED excuse is that she was sad and disappointed. so relatable, my coping mechanism is stealing boats when something bad happens as well...... . . .
Your comment made me laugh so much!!
Just stole a boat last Tuesday
I remember one of my professors during the bachelor telling me that I was a lazy student and it’s a shame that people like me represent my university afterwards. Ended up changing course after finishing my degree to chemistry instead of biotech. And who got a great scholarship for a PhD now and speaks two additional languages because they dared to move abroad? Guess I needed that Professor to make me question myself.
That’s what Rory should have done as well... but... she stole a yacht instead...
Girl I’m so happy for you!
Congratulations! Also, F**k that professor. And bless him.
I'm a biotech student and I wish I was as brave as you to change course... congratulations!!
Congratulations :) Also your comment is really funny :) hihi I think in the end it was time for Rory to do something stupid, she never really allowed herself to do anything questionable and she overcompensated by "stealing a yacht" hehe
I think it was really important that Rory got to explore that “bad girl” side of her and that Logan was there to let her do her thing and don’t hold her back or question her as everyone else was doing. I think she had been dealing with such high expectations and pressure (regarding school) all her life that when Mitchum said that to her she herself couldn’t recognize herself anymore, so she needed that outlet, she needed to find out who she wasn’t, what she has supposedly been missing, to find out who she actually was and who she wanted to be. However, I do feel that she never got out of that state of mind and what was supposed to just be a phase that helped her find her true self and grow just developed into her full personality and was never again able to grow past it. Her privilege didn’t let her suffer the consequences of her actions and each time she messed up, she was left unscathed which fed into that entitled bratty persona we saw in the revival.
I find it so ironic that her mom messed her up by not messing her up lol.
Part of me cant help but wonder if she also just burnt out. Coming out of high school she had this one singular short sighted unhealthy obsession with a dream of going to a particular school - she worked herself to the bone to get there and its possible that once she arrived, she lost the motivation and energy to make it all the way through to her dream career. I see it happen to a lot of people actually - working so tirelessly to keep up a perfect appearance and after a certain breaking point no longer having the energy to be nice and keep up appearances, so you become lazy and a horrible person and you begin to think it's your time to take rather than continue to give.
This is the comment I was looking for. I really related to Rory in many aspects (not the cheating), and while she is deeply flawed, I think that's what made her human. I was also raised in a way I thought I was exceptionally special and indeed was an overachiever in HS... I also changed schools to one we couldn't really afford so I could try to get in a "better" university... I understand where Rory is coming from and the fact that she never really faces any consequences the right way just fuels her entitlement. She's definitely burnt out but too stubborn to admit it. I hope more people realize this and take is a tale of caution instead of just demeaning her character because she stopped being "relatable."
Yeah but this is the thing you gotta understand. Rory Was the best in chilton, but in yale there are hundreds of best other students who worked their asses (and the money of their parents) as well. You need to keep going. Its a fault of the system but if you decide you want in, you have to Stick to it. At least to earn something for your living. Rory never understood that. She was perfect in the eyes of her little childhood town so why wasnt she in the rest of the World?
it makes me wonder if her "drive" wasn't always at least partially just her desire to be approved by her parents and everyone around her, to keep being put on the pedestal she was so used to...
so true, she was raised in a household, where money was not always available, and she was used to the fact, that if she wanted something, she had to work hard for it. But once she got money from grandparents, boyfriend, etc., she realized, that she didnt need to work that hard, and she didnt have that drive anymore.
That's me 🥴😓
By the way, did anyone notice the MASSIVE difference in Miss PATTY in YITL!?!?!?
YES OMG
YEAH!!!
she got old idk
She lost a lot of weight, for sure. I met her at the first Fanfest in Washington Depot. Really nice lady.
@@anamaria94088 i mean that IS what happens to people
She still could’ve married Logan and traveled the world.
He wanted her to move to San Francisco with him. He didn’t want to do long distance again
@@katievo816 Honestly for all those 10 years they stayed in contact, she could have told him she was ready to get married instead of being "the other woman".
Not the same. When you are married you can't do exactly what you want, you have to compromise with your partner. What if Logan didn't want to travel, is Rory supposed to travel by herself? Then she has to adjust her plans. She can't do whatever she want's whenever she wants. It is when you are young you are supposed to find yourself, travel the world. And if you wanna find yourself I personally feel like you have to be "alone", not commited to someone else. It is when you are young you have the chance to do whatever you want, not have to worry about "what will my husband say if I wanna work in Greece an extra year?".
Exactly
Exactly. Her relationship with Logan in the revival made Absolutely NO sense- Unless all she wants to be is the side piece, and string another innocent guy along for the ride as her goal in life for partnership. Has she not learned anything in her earlier years? She has her cake and eats it too. Sad and very disappointing.
Am I the only one who’s a bit weirded out about the fact that as Rory gets older, her voice raises like 3 octaves
Rory's downfall began when she started using that God awful baby voice
Smol Sheep FR like if you go and listen to her voice in the first episode/season it’s SO much better.
Her voice had annoyed me since day 1 😂 I'm rewatching it for the 4th time and I'm on season 5 and she still had a high pitched baby voice lol
@@sethtaylor8077 how is higher pitch better acting
Is is just me or are all the characters in this show is annoying as hell and sounds annoying too?! I literally had to take several break because of the constant bickering
I’m rewatching Gilmore Girls, and let me tell you, I had forgotten just how much I couldn’t stand Rory. She never took personal responsibility for anything, and no one ever held her accountable for the things she did. Her boyfriends would always get blamed for the bad decisions she made! She stole a freaking boat, and her mom blamed Logan and his father. Her grandparents just the wanted issue gone instead of holding her accountable. I mean, on top of that, after all the bad things she did, people were still surprised when she’d do something else. They’d be like, oh not our perfect Rory? I don’t believe she could do something like that. Like, really? She’s not a good person! I could go on and on, but I’ll leave it at that.
I loved Logan. I don’t understand how Lorelai has issues with him also when he was nothing but good to Rory
I watched one video that says you should try watching the show with the view that Rory is the villain. Because she's always making terrible decisions and not caring about how they affect others unless they get mad at her about it.
EXACTLY!
@@deborahanne8420 which video is this?
It's been a year since this comment, I honestly don't know. @@TheMarkmcr
Here's the thing: Rory never had a downfall. She was always a spoiled brat. The very first episode, she has applied to a school that's a half hour away and charges a ridiculous tuition because she doesn't think that her own high school is a good enough alma mater to have as an applicant to Harvard, without even considering how she'll get there or pay for it. She gets in, and the second her stupid dream comes true, she decides to throw it to the wayside for a boy she doesn't know, and whom she could get to know while going to her overpriced far away school. When her mother confronts her about it, she storms away rather than admit that she's being stupid or try to defend her stupidity. This is how they start the show. She definitely gets worse over the years, especially after Yale, but she doesn't start off as an aspirational character. She's always been entitled. She just finds herself entitled to different things over the years.
Lol girl tell us how you really feel 😅
well yeah but that's how most teenagers are
@@edensylvester13 Most teenagers are desperate to go to Harvard their entire lives?
Most teenagers decide that their schools are inadequate because they don't guarantee them entrance to Harvard?
Akia Sembly there’s nothing wrong with wanting to go to a better school that gives u a better education
@@user-vo9xe4yw7i Hence my saying nothing to that effect
Her behavior probably comes from the place where she could literally just breathe and people would praise her and call her the smartest girl ever, and ignore all of her mistakes.
Yep.
PERIOD
I think if "Season 1 Rory" and the "Day in the Life revival Rory" were to meet it'd be like a 13 Going on 30 situation! She'd (hopefully) be horrified by how mean and entitled she had become. :(
exactly
Except Jennifer Garner's character actually grew up to be successful & achieved her dream life. It's just that she found out that she has evolved to be completely different person in order to reach there. Rory on the other hand not only turned into different person but she's also a failure.
But this is something... I mean, Rory's downfall it's absolutely interesting. It's a progression of a character who fell into her own shadows. It's not something that usual to see in heroines and protagonists; but it's interesting how this can bring us some reflection. We can also assume that she was spoiled, but the thing is that she also agreed to be spoiled... This leads us to a certain thought- Do we have this choice: to surrender to our own shadows or fighting against it? It's under our control? I find Rory's downfall highly philosophical!
And that is why this character intrigues me so much.
Some people still claim Palladino´s choices regarding Rory´s development gave her character a lot of realism and plausibility. To me, Rory´s arc is definetly one of the most disappointing I´ve seen for any tv character ever. There were a thousand of other approaches that Palladino could´ve taken if she wanted to make her characters realistic. That´s why Rory´s crisis in season 6 was very relatable and smart but what they did to her in A Year in the Life was just DISGRACEFUL. And NO realistic but forced to almost tragic levels. Palladino ruined her own creation, and don´t get me started on other characters like Lorelai, Luke or even Logan. I would´ve prefered to keep the original ending. Season 7 was no doubt the worst GG season, but at least it provided us with an open yet proper conclusion for the characters. The reunion was a huge mistake. Still don´t believe how much an author can literally destroy their own work.
it’s interesting bc as we see rory downfall we see loralei start to grow
totally agree! unlikeable but very thought provoking
Agreed. It’s philosophical and psychological
the saddest thing ever. i almost think they made her so dislikable and broke the audience's heart on purpose or something.
I feel like the show was about generational curses/patterns/cycles .
Rory ended just like her mom a single mother with a kid that will probably have a not so present father figure. She will probably pressure her child to have a good career just like Lorelai did to Rory since they never got to have that.
Rory is such a mess she will probably need help financially from her mother as she's 30 living with her mom just like Lorely needed help from her own parents. Rory is a pathetic version of her mother.
Lane also ends up like her mother. Her religious roots make her repress her sexuality and she ends up pregnant the first time with no desire of having sex again just like Ms Kim. I wouldn't be surprised if just like Lane's dad, Zach was always away as we don't see him in the reboot.
Lane ends up a less uptight version of her mom.
Edit: Same can be said for Dean. He wanted to be like his parents and have a traditional houselode. His relationship with Rory proved to him that there were other options, but he still ended up married at 18 working hard to buy a townhouse for his housewife and their future kids. We don't really know what happened to him after that, but we know he ends up with the wife and kids just like he always wanted probably in a traditional marriage.
Same goes for Jess. At first he was going to be a bum like his dad, but Luke became his father figure and now he resembles Luke way more. He is an independant bachelor that has his shit together, but is still and probably will always remain in love with a Gilmore.
The director of the series actually said that in an interview she wanted the series to end the way it started. To show that kids make the parent's mistakes. Like in the verse of the intro: "Where you lean, I will follow". p.s. she also wanted the series to end with Rory saying the exact words: Whre you lean, i will follow. But then they changed it
@@sagara4e Wow. I never got the closure I needed on this show and I hated Rory for it. But now, looking at the insights from both of you, I can see that there was a pattern and it corrupted every part of Rory, Lorelai, and Lane's life. The connection between the theme song and the show was never apparent to me until now but I can understand why the director chose to make the show this way. It honestly was better that it was unsettling rather than satisfying because I have a lot of strong feelings toward the characters in this show and opinions about the events. & TBH, that's more than some of even my favorite shows can do.
@@taylahpickering3214 yes 🙌100% understand your need for closure. Because the show was always pointing in a certain direction, for Rory and Lane to make better decisions. And when I found out that the director had this in mind, I could finally let It go 🙂
I agree! I think Rory will be a less independent version of Lorelai. Lorelai will be similar (albeit not as harsh) to Emily in the way that she is frustrated with Rory for not living up to her potential. History repeats itself.
I loved how jess was able to turn his life around. also not to mention how he ended up more successful then rory. His character devolopement was literally the reason why i rewatched the show
Hear me out: I don't think Rory sleeping with Dean while he was married was a poor writing decision. It was somewhat out of character but kind of brilliant for what it revealed about her (selfishness, entitlement), not only to us as an audience but to Rory herself. It is still within the realm of relatability. Unfortunately, like you said, and I agree 100% that it WASN'T used to progress her character. She doesn't learn from it or pay any consequences. IMAGINE how great of a plot point it could've been if it was the catalyst to a major change in her character, positive or destructive. I wonder if Jared Padalecki's acting schedule had anything to do with the abandonment of this thread altogether.
true! while i totally think it was a shit thing for them to do, it felt REAL. sometimes people do shitty things and fall victim to temptation without any regard for consequences. i also totally agree w u that rory and dean having sex was truly one of the first times the audience really got a glimpse at how awful rory can be!
I agree. Obviously from a moral point of view sleeping with a married man is wrong, but from a writing standpoint I think Rory sleeping with Dean while he was married was good for insight into her character and it could of led to her maturing or taking a look at a really ugly side of herself. If the writers wanted to take this risk with the shows most beloved character then there has to be a really good pay off or at least an interesting one. Instead, there were no repercussions and no growth for Rory. Sure she was confronted about what she did and she felt guilty, but there’s no character development beyond that. Rory continues to date Dean until she becomes interested in someone else and Dean feels that he’ll never be good enough to fit into her world. Ultimately, that plot point was was interesting, but it had a terrible payoff. It all just felt pointless.
I was hoping SO much for some confrontation between Rory and Lindsay, and I mean a real confrontation, without both mommies, but of course nothing like that happened
wildhorses133 it did. He got hired for Supernatural around season 4/5 and so that’s why he couldn’t be a show regular anymore
I thought it was more realistic that they didn’t write any consequences for her actions. Because it explains where her entitlement comes from. She never has any serious consequences for her actions and that’s why she turns out the way she does.
Rory's downfall started way before jess. The minute she said she doesn't want to join Chilton because she met Dean for the first time in her old school, that was the real beginning.
The end of her character was in episode 2?
lmao honestly true
Thank you! I’m so glad I’m not the only one thinking that far back. I loved this show when it first aired, but rewatching it in my mid 20’s I automatically disliked Rory. That first season, every time she doesn’t get what she wants, she throws a fit, and/or runs to her grandparents, only to use them as a buffer. Lorelei fights with Emily, or just feels lonely and apologizes(???) to Rory, which makes absolutely zero sense. Rory faces zero consequences, and her brattiness is just swept under the rug. Which is how the rest of the show goes, to a greater extent. 😆
Wow , i just finished watching a year in a life and went directly rewatching the first episode of S1 and i had the same thought , she was always the same since the first episode she was just still young
yeah but she was still so young. and she did end up going anyway it’s not like she completely refused to go
Everything went wrong with her when she got bangs and when she gets back with Dean for the second time
Bangs: not even once!
@@KingAenti what
no hesitation. bangs.
yeah the Bangs did that to her lol that doesn't even make sence at all.
I totally agree with this but also I feel like Rory was spoiled from the beginning. She gets into Chilton with no plan or thought as to how her mother was going to pay for it. There's nothing wrong with her wanting to go to Chilton, but you would think since she's supposed to be "poor" she would at least put effort into applying for scholarships, etc. Then while she's at Chilton, everything that goes wrong for her automatically gets fixed by her teachers, grandparents, etc. Like when she got in trouble for sneaking into the school for that sorority thing, she yelled at the headmaster until he completely let her off the hook. Also Dean was an absolutely perfect boyfriend for her, and even though I actually really liked Jess, she treated Dean horribly and should have ended it with him as soon as she realized she had feelings for Jess. Basically, she gets everything she wants throughout the whole show while everyone in her life is constantly praising her for being perfect.
@Mia Smith exactly!! throughout the show she always goes to jess when she's upset and he always is there for her and yet she just leaves everytime. after logan cheated on her, she went to jess's job, kissed him, and then said she's in love with logan and left again. she treats everyone in her life like shit and acts like the world revolves around her
i agrée completely! i also think there’s no problem for her wanting to go to chilton, my issue is that despite getting fully payed for it and then throwing the opportunity away by dropping out of college is stuppppid
I agree that it's realistic for Rory to turn out as entitled and selfish as she did, but she was still the show's moral compass at the start of the series. If the writers had framed her increasingly bratty behavior properly and explored the corrupting influence of privilege, she could have been a great antihero.
I think that the big problem with the Year in life is that it was meant to be the plot of season 7, so it should’ve taken place when Rory was still in her early twenties and recently graduated, which would make it less pathetic and just plain sad. Like honestly I don’t think Rory ever had it in her to become the next Christiane Amanpour (which may I add Jess suggested early on), but if she would’ve had this life crisis in her early twenties and then switched to being an author instead of a journalist (and may I add again, as Jess suggested) her career would not have felt like a big failure like it does now.
But also just look at Rory’s upbringing: she was never short of anything she wanted, despite her and her mother being “poor” (as if) and she was praised by everyone around her, literally by an entire town, as if she was some prodigy child genius. Rory was hardworking and probably fairly smart, but I don’t think she was ever anything too spectacular in the big scheme, and going to an Ivy-league school, she had to realise she was just as smart as the next kid. And that’s basically when her downfall began, when she had to leave Stars-hallow and step into the real world, which as it happens, didn’t revolve around her.
Agreed. I hate how she got valedictorian over Paris who is just as smart and did way more extra volunteer work etc and was the student council president!
Can we talk about how Jess forcing himself on Rory at that party was SO out of character....? The writers...tried it a lot
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@@haroharo57 like wtf was that?? Why did they decide to include that?
Ugh I know I love Jess (he has issues of course) but that seemed like a play to make dean seem better and a way to push Jess away from the story.
@@francescaconsoli7050 I agree...damn. It could've been handled WAY better. Like if that was the route they were going to go, which is a reality -sadly, they should've left it at that and not have him remain a reappearing love interest throughout the show!
Here's what I think: bad Rory is reality and good Rory is fiction.
Because after all, let's not forget in a very Louisa May Alcott move, it is revealed in the Netflix series that Rory has written a book titled "The Gilmore Girls" (and Lorelai tells her to "drop the The")
So in her book Rory TRIES to paint herself in a good light, or maybe who she thought of herself at the time, BUT couldn't change major life events like not saying "I love you" back to Dean, dumping Dean for Jess, losing her virginity to married Dean, dumping him for Logan, etc. etc.
So good Rory is fictional in the early chapters of the book, but in later chapters Rory realizes she has to write the truth which is that she's horrible.
Rory didn't dump Dean for Logan, Dean dumped her
I agree, good Rory is fiction. But bad Rory partly, too. That story with her and Logan and his friends, that felt so artificial. Why liked Logan her? He seems so superficial. Rorys charakter doesn't fit into that combo. I always thought about the good Rory, that the story is written by a single mom, who wished that to happen, at least the first three series.
I agree. There was no downfall. Rory's development makes sense. She was always very sheltered by her mom and grandparents, she could not deal with failure. She was never going to "make it" as a journalist. She had to go out there and fail first to realize she has to find her own path instead of following the plan her 15 year old self made. It hurts to see it but it is very realistic, which is why this show is so good.
@@appletinidemand Rory fitted in just fine with logan. He brought out a side to her that was hidden..but still there nonetheless
@@almadorantes3724 she should have listened to Logan's dad when he told her she didn't have what it takes for journalism
I never vibed with Logan either. He was my least favorite and Dean was screwed over too many times. Then Jess in the new series he better not marry her he absolutely doesn’t need that.
thank GOD im not the only one who never liked him. i honestly dont get how other people liked logan for rory. He was such a bad influence on her and thats when she learned to rebel IMO
Gail Fabricante i just finished season six, off topic idc if you spoil but do lorelei and luke end up marrying eachother? please say yes. i’m asking you because ur comment was 12 hours ago and it seems like i can get a response since you’re recently watching stuff like this. ALSO, i totally agree i never liked logan. i gave dean too many chances but he’s messed up too many times. jess is my favourite🥰
@@sarika777 okay gurl since u asked for it. they do get married BUT not until the Netflix Special came out (Year in the Life)
Gail Fabricante whatttttt apparently the year in the life sucked right??
happy mango in my opinion IT DID. But i had to watch it because I wanna see how the writers end the story. Cuz from what i read the original writers werent there for the last season so it ended abruptly. But looking back at it now i wish they just left it alone
It still blows my mind how she could possibly be broke. She had everything paid for and handed to her, gifted a fully paid off car, inheritance from her great grandma and her grandfather, etc etc. Plus anyone remember her birthday in season 1? All the envelopes Richards friends handed her plus Richard twice (one at each party).
I used to like her up to a point but shes so spoiled and stuck up.
I knew a lot of really smart kids growing up, many of them were exactly like Rory. They all went off the rails somewhere along the way. All of them. I find the series incredibly realistic.
Right!! A lot of the coddled too and as soon as they hit college and hit one small bump they completely dissolved as people.
The lesson is be smart but not so much that you go off the rails
You can't put that much pressure on yourself for that many years without eventually snapping a little.
@@sasha8194 that’s true, some naturally gifted kids couldn’t help it when they realize they’re not the smartest in the room or not everything goes their way academically or socially. But that’s the whole point of college, is learning that you’re not the smartest or best and working to build yourself has as an individual rather than place all your worth on intelligence.
We really did lol. For me it was my mental health issues. Its kinda hard to do things with all the voices and shit
The worst part of every season was Lorelai and the grandparents shutting down everyone who would dare to say Rory was anything less than perfect. Jess, Lindsay, Mitchum, etc.
exactly like in s4 when lindsays mum confronted rory for sleeping with lindsays husband and lorelai just defended rory and acted like her daugther did nothing wrong.
When I was a teenager, I really loved "Gilmore Girls". But now, 20 years later, I really think that Lorelai and Rory are both selfish. I mean... Remember how Lorelai slept with Christopher, just because Luke did not do what she wanted? How she treated Mr. Medina? She even is a terrible daughter and hurts Emily... Again and again... She teaches her daughter "Well, let's eat Pizza... Every day" They waste a lot of food.
Rory is a selfish, little princess... She sleeps with Dean... And he is married. She is a bad best friend for Lane. And I always hated Logan... What an idiot...
Agree with all but I actually like Logan I think he showed Rory how to have fun but she should’ve been able to have fun as well as do good in school and not do things like oh say stealing a yacht. I also feel bad for Logan because he was treated poorly by his father. I also loved the nickname Ace.
@@ezraisamazing2713 Yeah, I think he helped her to loosen up. He was a pretty fun character, but it did bug me how he was so snobby and entitled at times
I👏🏼agree👏🏼with👏🏼all👏🏼of👏🏼this!!!
I agree with everything except the Logan part.
@@michelstephanygarces9431 I always liked Jess 🙂
Damn. All these people saying she's more relatable now? If you relate to an entitled unapologetic cheating homewrecker... then I feel sorry for your significant others.
i've never related to her omg i just feel like she's so privileged and gets everything handed to her and still acts like a brat..
@Clodagh H In season 5/6 I only watched the show because of Emily and Lorelai lmaoooo
She’s more relatable because her life became more realistic, in terms of her flaws. There is no such thing as a perfect kid with her mother as her best friend, that was extremely unrelatable. But a constant f-up is much more relatable!
@Clodagh H she was way more likeable than Rory 😂 but Emily was way better and made every scene so entertaining
LMAOO
my fave part is when she said to dean when they broke up "i don't want your mom to hate me, or your sister" and he replies with "for god sake rory one person finally hates you for once" i was like burrrnnn for real she loves the attention, and she was bad to lane and her mother and when she joined the DAR i was like wtf she only wanted attention and i love jess when he told her wtf is wrong with you when she is in the dar and dated logan which was a high-class
It honestly heart breaking to see a girl with that much talent and potential just turn into a below average person. It is very realistic tho, I’ve seen this a million times before unfortunately
also she's 32 and broke when she literally had a trust fund.. what happened to all that money?
In the revival, the grandfather passed away, so he must have left some money, however little amount, to Lorelai and Rory...or Emily would have offered to help out her granddaughter as she has all the money and not much desire to spend it...
Yesssssss She was supposed to get a trust fund at 25 but the real problem is the whole storyline was all over the place they both felt entitled anything couldn’t handle rejection didn’t even know how to handle the men in their life I couldn’t stop lying but say that they’re honest this show is nothing but a big contradiction I fell in love with the show and then as I look back I wish everybody a smack their self in the head because no one grew up but Jess
yes!! not to even mention the money she must have gotten when her granddad passed.
@@jennyjenjuice They didn’t show any money that she received from her grandfather or her father she could’ve got money from both of them and she had a trust fun they didn’t bring that up either It’s crazy the more that I keep looking from the beginning to the revival of the Gilmore girls I realize how much I really didn’t like it but I loved it at the time that is so crazy you start seeing all the inconsistencies in the show while Watching it over and over lol
Exactly. Did she piss away a million or more dollars in seven years? If she's that stupid, she deserves to live in a box.
is it really a surprise that rory turned out the way she did? i mean she had her mother as the only authority figure to look to for guidance and if we all pay attention to how lorelai operates we should have all seen it coming.
That's exactly what I said!!!
I think Lorelai is great but shouldn't have had kids
Exactly, I’ve always thought that lorelai was very rude and self-centered, it makes total sense Rory turned out how she did
This so much.
I always thought Rory was a little self-obsessed. She seemed a little too certain of her own talent and ability. Very judgemental.
It is because her mother, her grandparents and everyone in town literally WORSHIPPED her, to the point she started believing it herself
Stringing Dean along when she liked Jess was the start of her downfall. She ruined a marriage, then she didn’t even end up lasting with Dean. But when she gets one bad comment about her not having what it takes to be a journalist, she gets arrested and drops out of Yale. You can tell she was a spoiled brat. Having her town all love her and think she is so wonderful, plus never having to be punished, getting whatever she wanted from someone in her life. When she dated Logan is when I really didn’t like her. She got worse when she was dating him.
also her getting mad that dean moved on same w jess with shane like she fr thought these guys would just wait around when she was in a relationship w one of them
@@user-sv1xn8qq4n exactly! especially in the sequel i didn’t like her. sleeping with logan while he had a fiancé and not even remembering her boyfriends name. honestly not surprised she didn’t make it
@@sanchezsanchez9223 her boyfriends name was paul i think
@@senulyawijesingha4825 yeah i think it was
The real villain here is Rory, Logan always supported her and he wasn't as toxic as jess and dean...change my mind
I couldnt stand how she reacted with the whole love triangle thing with dean and jess. She acted like she was the victim of it all. Then when she slept with a married man? Especially with a man that she hurt countless times? And once again acting like the victim. I loved the first few episodes of rory. Yes she was entitled as far as thinking her little high school wasnt enough for Harvard (as others have said), but I dont think that ruined her. I totally agree with the video, and I'm glad to see it cuz no one i know watched the show and i cant complain 😂
I agree with you except on the first part. Didn't Rory actually feel guilty for how she treated Dean leading up to their first breakup? It was the last time she ever showed genuine remorse IMO
im so sad at how rory's storyline ended up, she had so much potential :(
Well, that how real life is. It is not a fairytale.
She also handled the aftermath of kissing Jess SO poorly. She kisses him, tells him not to say anything, leaves on a trip and doesn't contact him at all, and then gets mad he's with someone else? She was pretty selfish in that situation as well, which is so weird because in every other aspect of her life she was so considerate of others up until that point. Honestly, it was super satisfying to see Jess glow up in comparison.
EXACTLYYYY. Also when does jess glow up?
@@maryzaleski3946 ooh check out season 6 ep 8 "Let Me Hear Your Balalaikas Ringing Out"
you left out the fact that when her mother told her she was wrong she moved in w/ her grandparents as a second resort because she's not used to not getting what she wants.
She had her down fall the moment she decided to go to Yale instead of H arvard. It's when she lost her drive after she lost that part of her she lost everything good about her.
I think they sent her to Yale to keep Paris in the show
@@kalliefraser8090 that makes sense honestly, paris did cary
YES, totally agree. when she visited harvard you can see the smart, good girl rory, but when she stepped into yale she didnt really tried her best
I dont see nothing wrong with going to Yale it was her grandparents college.
@@manuellarodrigues4386 there was nothing wrong with Yale but she wanted to go to Harvard her whole life, and it was something she worked for but after she dropped it and went to yale its like se stoped working hard for things.
Had she gone to Harvard, she would have never dropped out. She wouldn’t have dropped out because she wouldn’t of met logan or his father, had she met him still, she wouldn’t of dropped out still because she worked hard to get in- extremely hard. So she wouldn’t of taken it for granted like she did with Yale, she got the Yale interview handed to her, since she already had great grades, that was a given, and she is a legacy.
Everyone hates Jess, but jess has all ways been better than rory- even when we first met him. Sure his attitude sucked, but he never strung a girl on telling her that he loved her, he worked for everything he has ever done, and he succeeded despite EVERYTHING and EVERYONE who didnt believe in him (exluding rory)- bc even tho luke wanted the best for him, Jess needed to learn what he needed and how to live. It was the same situation as lorelai except less privileged and no pregnancies.
Honestly, Jess doged the bullet of dating rory. Because who knows what would have happened if she had left with him when be came to Yale.
I feel like the story would have been so much better if she went to Harvard.
With rory's background, she could never have been completely relatable. they loved to pass her off as such, with her living humbly with Lorelai, but at the end of the day, she still had access to incredible resources that someone like Dean couldn't even dream of. Rory was destined for ivy league, where her school would have been paid for by her grandparents, where she would have met other students with the same background and she did just that. It was never a surprise that grew to be dislikable
The show's creator left after the first several seasons, then came back at the end and for the mini-series. What got lost was the original point of contention -- Lorelai's relationship with her mother compared to hers with her daughter. Rory wasn't meant to be the main character, it was always Lorelai. The will-they-or-won't-they was between Lorelai and Emily, not any boy or man. The new writers completely missed that. And it's fine to have a character behave in an unusual way, but CALL THEM OUT. That 70's Show did a better job with Mila Kunis's character, and made Jackie great to watch. She was horrible, but you still loved her because she got called out and showed hints that someday she would grow out of it. It's such a bummer when good actors get hamstrung by lame storylines.
Jess carried the show for me. All the others are irrelevant.
Same for me he was REAL he was a jerk at times and he could've respected boundaries with dean when they were together but his character development is amazing. And he was always an intuitive bad ass and the humor with him and luke was always my favorite😂❤ And he is a real sweetheart without that sissy boy appeal
YUP AND YOU CANNOT CHANGE MY MIND ON THAT
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@@livinginthefastlaneisgetti5691 he was rotten for sure, and yea as his character grows he turns into a very good man
I hated Jess because long ago I WAS Jess, and the young Jess was toxic. I grew, Jess grew, that's how that works sometimes, but I did some damage along the way and likely he would also. I like the older Jess, I understand the older Jess but Rory would have just been trampled by him during his personal growth stages or possibly even enabled him to remain the angry child.
The writers did an excellent job - the cheating with Dean was a perfect climactic moment when we start to actually realise just how entitled she has been the entire time. She was flawed from Season 1 when she would insult other girls who her romantic partners were involved with (E.g. insulting the name Beth when Lane first tells Rory Dean was seeing someone in Chicago, and other little things like this). In Season 4, when the stress of Yale gets to her and she realises she can't actually do everything like she was taught for so long, she returns to Dean as a comfort mechanism as she felt her life was perfect when she started doing well at Chilton and had him. She also of course wants the sensation of knowing that she can have whatever she wants. What's so beautiful about the writing of this show is that stuff like this is interpreted and comes from analysing her behaviour over time, however I wish there was a clearer message to show that young women should of course be confident and believe they can do anything, but not to take it to Rory's point of radiating this 'Golden Child' mentality and treating everyone else like shit bc of it !
i Ok calling her out on the Beth thing is a bit much, she liked a guy and was talking to her friend about him and his old girlfriend, it was just a juvenile thing.
@@idkilikeeggos5261 nah i totally agree with you, but also when during this time she was emphasised by lorelai and everyone in the town for being the nicest and sweetest girl, to say stuff like that, and there were definitely a few other questionable comments, suggests a bitterness in her. but yeah i guess the beth thing is a bit of a stretch, but it was for lack of better examples which i cannot remember now hahah and plus this kind of attitude shows up in rory many times throughout the series before the affair thing made it clear
also her attitude towards jess's girlfriend shows this perfectly, lets not forget that beauty store incident
i I’m only on Season 2, but even now I’m noticing that she has a huge “I’m not like other girls” mentality. It’s nothing that makes me hate her (but this video makes me think I will soon), but I just wondered if anybody was ever going to mention it.
this show is so different from the real world ..I guess that's tv-land for us. if I act over-confident or reckless, I see the detrimental effects the next day in so many ways. I see its effect in my health, appetite, personal life, career relationships, mood, a decline in my feelings of hopefulness, low energy levels. and, then im scrambling to make things right, swearing off bad habits and working on evolving my thinking..maybe, its a blessing in disguise, I hope. my mom is the opposite of Lorelei though :P strict, disciplinarian authoritarian, harsh but trying to be loving/nurturing at the same time. ahh, it's tv-land I guess. do you guys have any realistic shows to recommend?
I remember when, at college, Rory confronted the lecturer who was Paris's bf about him possibly cheating on her friend with a redheaded girl & says 'the redhead has fat thighs!.' That would be an incredibly sexist & superficial thing for anyone to say but especially an educated young woman in an apparently progressive drama series that focused on a single mother & her daughter. That's what really put me off her.
I don't mean to judge but...Rory is a head case and should consider going back to therapy. That little stint her character did in season 6 was not enough. It seems, her entire life, Rory has constantly had someone in her ear telling her how amazing and wonderful she is. So much in fact she doesn't know how to handle rejection. Also, was Mitchum wrong? Rory is a great writer, brilliant even. But, is she a journalist? Writing is just one side of what a journalist does. Her choices and actions in the revival coupled with her personality type make me unsure. And her romantic relationships...I think she may have some "daddy issues" as well. Everyone is flawed, but Rory's issues were never fleshed out or dealt with.
Thank you for creating and sharing this. I have so many questions for ASP about Rory Gilmore alone.
I agree with everything you said about Rory, but Lorelai? I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions on her character.
I'm not a big fan of Mitchum telling Rory "she doesn't have it" after she only worked for him for like a WEEK and not even defining what the heck "it" is supposed to be. Like even if he secretly thought she wasn't talented, he could have given her some initial constructive criticism to work with before giving up on her completely. (Also, this is a textbook description of workplace sexism. Women are usually more likely to be discouraged in their industries than men and being routinely told they aren't "cut out" for whatever it is they are doing.) Rory didn't make it in journalism because she didn't seem to even try.
@@360shadowmoon Mitchum told Rory she didn't "have it" because he wanted her and Logan to break up. He was a manipulative ass, the whole internship was a lie. She does a very good job at Yale paper, writes for an online magazine while still a student and after graduated gives her an interessing freelancer job that fits her dreams. At the Revival she is praised for being a good journalist but can't get a job which is actually kinda normal with journalism. But she until has opportunities and messes them up for no reason, it seems she's still stuck to the idea of who she was at 16 and refused to be an adult.
@@360shadowmoon "workplace sexism" actually, women are *more* likely to be encouraged to pursue male dominated fields, not less to the point where people tend to score women artificially higher than men for the same score. Women tend to quit while men tend to keep trying when they fail the first time.
@@marina.chayka I disagree, I think Mitchum didn't want Rory to break up with Logan, he wanted her to "break up" with her job, so she can be the trophy wife Huntzberger's apparently need (as Sheila and Logan's granfather more or less stated in that dinner scene). They wanted her to take care of her husband in the traditional sense. I think that's why he discouraged her job aspirations.
@@Tuepfely this makes sense too! Either way Rory was set up to fail by design.
rorys downfall was when she went to yale and instead of harvard.
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rory’s downfall is just when she began college
agreed
She should have gone to Harvard, that would have made her get away from her sheltered life as it was further away from home.
Laora Tobelaim I agree, she never had a chance to grow up at Yale because she was *always* in Stars Hollow!
Elena Johnson exactly !
I loved her in the beginning but then she became so unlikeable. She emotionally cheated on Dean with Jess and then threw away a relationship with Jess too, only to then get involved again with a married Dean, all the whilst looking down upon and making fun of his wife. And all of this would otherwise have been not so bad if it was just a normal part of Rory growing up through making mistakes and eventually realizing her wrongdoings.. but none of that happens. She was always entitled and uppity, which is a result of her being brought up by a "cool mom" who wanted to be her friend rather than be a parent who is supposed to guide and discipline their child.
It's worth pointing out that Rory treated her 'friend' Marty like crap. Marty is like a puppy hopelessly in love with her... anyone with a brain can see it, and they have similar screwed up family dynamics, among other things that they bond over. He's always there for her, and she crosses physical boundaries that are not what you do when you think of a guy as 'just a friend,' and knowing that Marty was bullied by creep Logan and his idiot friends, she chooses them over Marty. That's a seriously low move that caused me to lose all respect for her. Then an episode or two later, Rory is drunk, crying on the bathroom floor about Logan not liking her. Seriously, Marty would've never treated her with such disregard that she'd end up in such a demeaning situation. After the crappy way she treated him, I kind of wanted Marty to show up in the reboot with a smart, loving, hot wife who thinks he's amazing, and it be obvious that Marty was too good for who Rory became. Marty would have been perfect for season 1 Rory, Marty challenged her mind because he was intellectually her equal, he was driven to be in college even working extra jobs to pay for it, he made an effort to do the right thing, and was down right sweet. A reboot appearance of Marty in my head cannon would've said, "What the Hell are you doing with your life? Is this really who you want to be?" and he'd have realized he dodged a bullet by not getting the woman he'd pined for.
Oh and on the reboot, don't forget that while cheating on her boyfriend and being Logan's other woman, she had sex with a random guy, dress as a cosplay Wookiee, who she was interviewing for an article she never bothered completing. Oh and at the end it turns out she's pregnant by someone, most likely cheater Logan, but it really could be any guy since the Wookiee situation shows she'll have sex with anyone with no thought about repercussions. She just became such an obnoxious selfish person, and the thought of her being someone's mother makes me pity the child.
Her having sex without thinking through the consequences is established in the original series when she moves in with her grandparents, but it's foreshadowed at the beginning when she flirts with Tristan while being with Dean and knowing Paris likes him.
OMG THE WOOKIE! I FORGOT ABOUT HIM! that would be something if the child is his
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I understand they wanted her to end up having a single mom experience just like Lorelai, but omg they didn't have to ruin her like that. She could have ended up being a single parent AND successful (as she was destined to be from episode 1) at the same time.
But why do single mothers need to be normalized shouldn’t the man that gets your pregnant take some accountability. You didn’t make that baby by yourself
I think when a show starts, the writers have to figure things out. In the beginning, the entire tv show universe is just about to unfold. But after a while, there has to be drama. A breakup, new boyfriend, new schools, new challenges. In order to receive just that, characters have to change, to make dumb decisions, to leave the good path. "They created this character who's like seemingly so perfect that they had to throw something at her..." But because Rory is the main character of her show, she gets away with sleeping with a married man. And because her mother, also the main character, is a great role model when it comes to sleeping around and having no steady relationship. Lorelai even went back to her ex, only to find out, that his girlfriend is pregnant.
Even though almost nobody would say that this could be true, I think some things with Rory's upbringing went terribly wrong. Having a mother like Lorelai seems to be the dream of every young teenage girl, but in reality, it would be a nightmare (and having no father figure at all!). A mother, who is over 30 but acts at least 10 years younger, who thinks she's better than everyone else, who has to stay mad at her mother for many many years (but it's not only because the writers demand it, it makes totally sense considering Lorelai's worldviews), who can't keep up a relationship, not because she couldn't find good guys, but because she's so demanding. Also I think Lorelai thought that since Rory was very smart or liked learning, her daughter's life would be a piece of cake. Yeah, when Rory was young and naive, everything was more or less okay. But by the time Rory started to become a teenager, with boyfriends and stuff, she made a lot of mistakes, because she hadn't been properly prepared for this life, when everybody in her home town and her family would constantly tell her how smart and awesome she was, that she could reach anything and they even paid for her elite university.
I think Rory has little self confidence and is kind of a loner. And not really fitting in (for whatever reason). Speaking from my personal experience now, that makes Rory easy prey for any kind of person seeking her attention. You know, if you are kind of shy and not so good with people, and then comes along a person that shows interest in you, you could easily get super excited and full of hopes and dreams, instead of just saying: "This is not okay", "I'm in a relationship" or "you are in a relationship" or "no, I'm not going to steal a boat" etc. Rory seems also to be a difficult character, just like her mom. Her interests are very specific. I remember a scene when Dean was hanging around her while she was looking for books. He obviously wasn't interested, but had to go through it because, yeah, the Gilmore Girls make the rules. It's as simple as that. Rory not marrying Logan was the same as Lorelai not marrying Max. Fun is good but committing to something not so much. Also it's dangerous if you are influenced by the wrong crowd (yeah it's a show, it has to be fun, but still). Like a rebellious Jess, a snobby Logan, a wealthy grandma, a self-centered, egotistical mother plus the constant praise of the entirety of Stars Hollow. Rory was never part of the "real" world. I think the problem for Lorelai and Rory is that all the other people are simply not Lorelai and Rory. Because only the two know what is right and do everything right. It's funny because when you say that Rory is 32 and broke, I mean, that's about my age and compared to the huuuuge potential of the now broke Rory, I'm doing a solid living. But that are just my 2 cents^^, most of the audience usually watches a show for entertainment, not for moral behaviour and life lessons.
That are just my thoughts. I give no guarantee that they make sense. But if some things do, that'd be alright. Maybe I'm totally wrong, it's just my opinion written down spontaneously. But from looking back on this show and characters, this is how I'm feeling. I used to watch the show for many years and really liked it a lot (but didn't really question any behaviour of the main characters), but can't stand it today. It isn't a bad show but it isn't good anymore. And I changed my opinion among others because of the realization what lifestyle and worldview the show/girls are promoting. Rory and Lorelai obviously became kind of role models for girls, and that is a troubling thought considering their cheating and behaviour. They are not alone. There are even worse shows dressed up nicely.
I couldn't have said it better.
I agree that Rory´s downfall is strongly linked to how much every person in Rory´s life seemed to treat her like a princess, especially her grandparents. However, her downfall goes beyond that sort of entitled upbringing. She´s now a LOT more flawed than Lorelai and hasn´t learned ANYTHING from all the mistakes she´s made throughout the sixteen years between the original show and its reunion. Your take was perfectly explained but I don´t know what your personal stance on Rory´s decline is. To me, Palladino had no excuse to destroy one of her most iconic characters. I´m sure she wanted her show to end on a realistic note, but she went way too far with Rory to the point that her character just lost all plausibility. Actually, the whole revival felt so forced and awkward that, except for the Stars Hollow look, nothing kept the essence of the wonderful original series.
@@mateoairaudo5535 Well said. The reasons why a character is written differently or why the writers decide to change direction is hard to explain. I haven't seen but heard about the "A Year" show. I tried to watch some minutes, but couldn't stand it at all.
As you perfectly said: The settings may be the original ones but the show's feel is gone. We have to understand that the show started in 2000! That was not only 20 years ago, it was in an entirely different time! The screen format was different. The show wasn't in HD, it was much less special effects or CGI, the pace was slower. That all changed in the following years. And of course Lorelai and Rory got older. A lot older. It's unbelievable that at least Lorelai wouldn't change a bit with age.
Also a big problem I see is that the (other) characters haven't changed (at all?). That might work for comedy shows, but GG is a dramedy or drama show. Many of the minor characters are just 2D. They always act the same and we know almost nothing about them. At some point that has to get boring. Maybe the only chance to bring new energy/drama to the show is to let one of the main characters fall down. They could've written Rory more diverse. Yes, with some problems, but also with a solid foundation in life. Just like a kind of normal human being. Making the same mistakes all over again with being twice the age is just ignorant. But I also understand how difficult it has to be to write a 4-part-show 10 years after the ending of the original show. That is difficult for different reasons.
@@technologywontsaveus Agree. I believe that the reunion should´ve never been made. The problem of reuniting a cast from a show that aired 2 decades ago is the changes that took place regardng time, culture, technology, etc. That´s what J. Aniston has always said about a potential Friends reunion. She claimed that, though she would be delighted to do it, factors such as the period in which the show took place could definetly kept the reunion from being good. Can you imagine Chandler, Monica, Phoebe and Rachel using Whatsapp and taking selfies at Central Perk? I can´t. The 90´s was a whole different decade and having a Friends reunion these times could take the essence of the show away. A Year in the Life is a perfect example of that. In episode 1, Rory has trouble with her cellphone because of Internet issues. That was a regular and effective joke back in the original series. But, we´re talking about the beginning of the century, when Internet was not so advanced. Making that joke nowadays is dated and ridiculous as we can use mobile data.
Those problems aside, Palladino´s vision regarding the plot and the characters did not help at all either. In the end, this revival was meant to be the let down that it was.
honestly this show got difficult to watch because of how absolutely awful Rory became. Just an entitled rich kid with no personality - always the victim. and constantly cheating on her boyfriends
One of the most annoying characters of all time.
Honestly, I know so many people at my school who were like Rory. I envied them for their good work ethic, perfect grades and amazing lifestyle. We were never close but they were nice and people wanted to be their friends. Eventually as went to college they become a whole new person. It was actually the people at my school that acted like Paris, Tristan, Jess and Logan that actually ended up being successful.
If any of you have seen Gilmore Girls, here is my analysis of it:
From the first episode I could tell how coddled Rory was, and how she didn't get to have a say towards her future with unrealistic standards. I always loved Jess for challenging her in so many different ways, treating her different than the others by making her face real life situations while he could. Lorelai did fail in not showing Rory mature romantic relationships as her dating scene was pretty emotionally immature as well, much like a teenagers. Yes, her grandparents treated Rory as the golden child. Every time someone criticized Rory about her career, upbringing, or love life she would immediately crumble even way past the time to be an innocent kid or teen. She never really had a chance and yet in many ways all the chances in the world. She had an although sometimes cold and very distant or judgemental mom (paralleling Rorys grandmother) during Rorys big mistakes, Lorelai was also her "best friend", Rory has had extensive emotional support. She was never diagnosed with any mental illness or disorder. She surpassed academically in school and had the financial ability to do whatever she would seek career wise. Lorelai did set a great example of what work ethic is and rabellion against previlage is that Rory ruined once she moved away from home. Lorelais greatest mistake was ultimately living vicariously through Rory, history inevitably repeated itself for her, if not worse. Lorelai with all her faults, built a life for herself and was able to embrace her financial privilege as the times to get ahead, and chose the right partner in the end, unlike Rory. I mean ffs Rory, is it not obvious to you that Jess is the "one" having your whole life basically parallel your moms in so many ways? Privilege goes a long way and also destroys a person. Rory set a life for herself BUILT in being in denial. She has very little true introspection. She never worked a day in her life outside of school even. Moral of the story, the world doesn't really change for anyone. It's how you deal with it that matters and THATS what actually sets you apart and aside.
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imagine going to yale for your life to end like.... this. yikes
I find it Interesting that they spend the whole series trying to parallel Rory to Lorelei.. when maybe she is more like Chris the whole time..like her father she is entitled and easily swayed. He lets his parents ruin his relationship with Lorelei and doesn’t try to take any responsibility for his actions when they were younger. In the episode when his parents join the Gilmore’s for dinner it is evident they blame Lorelei for everything and don’t hold their perfect son accountable for anything. He remains entitled and in the life that Lorelei so desperately runs from. Like Rory he thrives on his parents wealth and status and struggles to deal with his responsibilities as an adult. He is a lousy relationship partner and also attempts to string Lorelei along even though he is in another relationship. He shows little to no character growth over the course of the series ..He is selfish and slow to grow as a person. Though Rory seems to resent him for what he has done to her and her mom ..she seems to share a lot of his personality..as an entitled and thoughtless, selfish person. Though Lorelei is not the perfect person she is not entitled and works hard for everything she has. She is not by any means a perfect relationship partner but she is in love with Luke and works to make their relationship work. Lorelei is shown to have grown as a person..she struggles and has downfalls but she results in being a far more likeable character than Rory because she is not entitled and does not act solely from selfishness.
This actually makes a lot of sense, plus she has daddy issues on top of it. I imagine it would be hard for her to see her dad actually being a dad to her sister when he wasn’t really there for her.
Taryn Timms The daddy issues explains why she chose to not marry Logan ! Even though in the later years she is still involved with him.
agree the whole blame the mother thing is so tired. like where even was he he's trash on a stick and she's trash jr.
OMG THIS, people always hate on lorelai for everything that happened with Rory, and even if they aren’t wrong about some stuff, people have to remember that lorelai had Rory at 16, ofc she hasn’t been that matured yet, besides she grew up with a really toxic and manipulative parents that only care about the family’s image and if lorelai didn’t raise Rory correctly was because how her parents educate her. And they always say that Emily and Richard weren’t bad people but they sabotaged her relationships, tried to manipulate her daughter, maybe they did get her in a prestigious school but they cared more about work and social events that spending time with their daughter and listening to her so she never felt loved and it doesn’t matter that they want to spend time with her now that she’s an adult bc it doesn’t change the fact that they’re the reason of lorelai’s insecurities and trauma, that’s why she’s always very defensive and doesn’t trust them, we don’t know the whole story, we just heard a few comments bc if they’re good persons now it doesn’t change the fact that they were horrible people before.
@@silvanarogel7151 that is very unfair to Richard and Emily that were going to help Lorelai to raise her daughter even if that would get in the way of the perfect family that they wanted to be.
I think there's something to be said about the struggle that 'gifted' kids like Rory (and myself lol) go through. During our early school years, things come to us with ease, and even when we do have to work hard and study, it's not nearly to the extent that other kids had to. (See: Rory breezing through her studies vs. Paris drills with flashcards and wpm, etc). But gifted kids often become stunted adults, because in adult life, things just don't come easily like they used to. They don't know how to work hard for what they want. especially when it comes to competitive things like internship or job interviews, where they might have gotten preferential treatment during their school age because people would see the potential in the gifted individual. This totally can lead to that entitled personality that Rory picks up.
Idk, someone more eloquent than me can probably explain this phenomenon, why it happens, and how to better apply it to Rory's character, but it's something to think about!
I relate to this so much
This makes a lot of sense. It's simply like some children hit milestones earlier than others, so they are called gifted.
No... You explained it perfectly.
Yeah...learned to read by myself at 4, skipped a grade in elementary, then won a prize for highest grades every year in high school. And it came so easily. All my young life people kept telling me how smart I was and I defined myself by that. they thought i would do such great things. When i actually had to work hard for stuff i realised i couldnt do it. Now almost 30, i have nothing.
I think there's different layers to this. There are gifted students who do excel and do know that they have to work for things. There are gifted students that have all the gifts in the world but because they don't have money, access or opportunity become frustrated and stunted adults because they are basically continuously making do with off brand duplo blocs while others go far and get to use the Lego Technics and they're on the outside looking in. In many places, lots of high schools and colleges, which provide job skills training only do so for those who may be going into vocational tech, which is almost always looked down on. Meanwhile because the adults believe that the children shouldn't have to worry about such things, many don't allow their children to learn or "worry" about such things. I don't think that Rory breezed through her studies. It may have seemed that way in comparison to Paris, who wasn't always the best model to follow on that front. There were lots of times where she was shown working very hard for what she wanted in both high school and university. I think Rory in AYIL ran into what a number of people in their20s-40s run into. Sometimes you have to figure it out and readjust and you may not end up where you thought you would despite having tons of opportunities. Most shows generally play at this stage of life for laughs. And when it comes to women, it can be hard because the blueprint isn't always clear. Emily married Richard and because his helpmeet and society matron because that's what was expected of her. Lorelai spent a lot of time reacting. She got pregnant as a teen and didn't want to get married and spent time working whatever job she could to support Rory and herself. She created new and different goals but it wasn't the kind of path that Rory was set on. Whereas if you look at Dean and Logan, their fathers provided them with the blueprint of how to proceed. Good or bad. I think in many ways when it had the opportunity, Gilmore Girls especially AYIL showed us how complex this is.
my theory: this show was based on a real person that the writer fell in love with. When that friendship/love ended, the writer tried to ruins rory's image and any redeemable characteristics, and in the process killed the show. I wish I never watched past s3
eh. the ending was acc kinda realistic cause a lot of "gifted" kids burn out in time and loose themselves. i feel sorry for her cause she was never disciplined so she had no real life skills and vouldnt take criticism (ik its sounds stupid)
That is a good theory
Its almost like a MGTOW guy wrote her character
"I'd take Lizzie McGuire over this dumb girl any day" MIC DROP!
lizzie was likable and fun, this girl was just the preppy bore
I feel rory was so used to the whole world telling her that she's so perfect that when one person contradicts and questions it shes so taken aback and shocked and thus almost galvanizes into a series of making ill descions. I hear people complaining about her a lot and don't get me wrong she had her flaws ,but I can't hate her because I've grown up with her. The cheating is inexcusable ( I dont even consider the revival ) but I mean...she is half Christopher.