Children Of Dune 8 Leto II & Ghanima -Full Scene! ALIA DEATH ABOMINATION!

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  • @klyanadkmorr
    @klyanadkmorr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Some E. Euro religio fascist tried posting forfkssake the JIHAD of mindless religious worship slaughter in Paul's name was the Golden Path and Paul was somehow restricting it and that was his failure *when the TRUTH FRANK'S MESSAGE is Paul's fatalist thinking LET THE JIHAD CRUSADE GO ON MAKING IT A MASSIVE FAILURE HORROR* ! BECAUSE IT REQUIRED a godhead forever ran by fake religious powermongers who had no wish to prepare or develop the human race for self reliance independence survival. Seeing the farfuture danger to the human species Paul's Muadib Jihad had created Paul REFUSED was SCARED of an eternity of LEADING humanity on that GOLDEN PATH to fix his WRONGS & SAVE HUMANITY. A mindless Jihad of reactionary slaughter was not the answer NOR WHAT FRANK HERBERT WAS TEACHING. AND whenever some internet 'Bot(USA ,russian,Iran, or ISIS reactionary)conservative & religious fanatics try posting online try coopting twisting DUNE into their hateful violent narrative please REBUKE them!.

    • @thrawn-ys9hf
      @thrawn-ys9hf ปีที่แล้ว

      all jihad are hateful and violent.
      The only difference between them all is the reasons given by those who perpetuate them.

    • @Despotic_Waffle
      @Despotic_Waffle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good message. As a Muslim I approve this message.

    • @finalsleeper8800
      @finalsleeper8800 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I was pretty sure that Frank Herbert's primary message was that charismatic leaders, no matter intent lead to evil ends, do not follow them as they will destroy you.

    • @aggdga
      @aggdga ปีที่แล้ว

      Question: I know what happens to Leto over the next millennia, what he becomes and how he meets his death. But what I don't know is what happens to his sister, does she live as long as he does, does she leave the planet, does she get married or does she have children? Do you perhaps know that?

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a really, REALLY bad reading...
      The reason paul failed was because he was biologically incapable of bearing the weight of the golden path.
      Why do so many people forget that he wasnt the end point of the breeding plan? He was an incomplete specimen.

  • @barbara9315
    @barbara9315 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    If “consult your doctor if you’re pregnant before taking drugs” was a person.

    • @fighterck6241
      @fighterck6241 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DagothDaddy
    @DagothDaddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Early 2000s mid budget sci-fi shows are their own amazing genre. I remember watching this as a kid after school.

  • @ComeauSoftwareSolutions
    @ComeauSoftwareSolutions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +675

    "I want my brother." Wow - that still brings tears to my eyes.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      I had an older brother who I loved dearly pass away barely a few years after I almost died from an accident. When I watched this scene and knowing Alia's loving adoration worship of her brother Paul made me cry like a baby with the actors who did a good job tearing up to support the tragic scene. Herbert's book version never did that for me, his was too matter fact Alia's possessed evil no remorse showing but to toss herself out the window. Like a ragdoll, I laughed when I read it back in the day.

    • @AdeptKing
      @AdeptKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      She's probably gone to him now.

    • @RavenTheValkyrie
      @RavenTheValkyrie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It always breaks my heart.

    • @jwmckiney3576
      @jwmckiney3576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That scene mirrored the scene in the miniseries when Jessica was explaining how it was a terrible thing she did awakening her to concours ess. Then she cries and Aliya takes her tear and puts it to her lips, then she says ‘I want my brother.’

    • @Jerec
      @Jerec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. Just watched this and couldn't quite hear what she said.

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba1000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    What's so chilling about this scene is not only Alia's heroic choice but that it is the first few steps on The Golden Path for Leto. 3 millenia later and how different, and how ready for his end he becomes.

  • @LauraS1
    @LauraS1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    Poor Alia really never stood much of a chance for a decent life. She really had no internal defenses as she got older and sank further into confusion and paranoia from the inner ego memories competing for time at the window (so to speak). At least Leto and Ghanima had each other to share their inner challenges and then later, separately finding their own way "out" and being who they really are (in Ghanima's case) and what kind of internal communal organism they could be (Leto became an amalgamation of ego memories, a sort of colony organism, after the spice saturation occurred.
    I always felt the worst for Jessica because she loses everything on this planet. She loses the love of her life, her youth and bloom to the desert, and then both her children on the same day, one before her eyes. She loses everything save for her grandchildren who are not children and with whom she'll never have the traditional grandmother/grandchild relationship. No wonder she'd never want to come back.

    • @subliminalfalllenangel2108
      @subliminalfalllenangel2108 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jessica should have used the Bene Geserect's forbidden anti-aging technique like Alia did and start her own life over again.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@subliminalfalllenangel2108 by this point everything Bene Gesserit has sickened her. She returns to Caladan after this and stays out of politics. Even The God Emperor Leto doesn't bother her

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@subliminalfalllenangel2108 That's not the point. ''Aging'' has nothing to do with this at all. She lost everyone and everything that was dear to her, so what's the point of ''starting over''?

    • @veritasliberabitvos454
      @veritasliberabitvos454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The twins were protected by their parents - read the book around that. Their parents ego stood guard against the other memories.

    • @cringecat3614
      @cringecat3614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Yeah. It'll be like reliving that pain again. Some losses just can't be completely overcomed, especially those of children.

  • @rhodvalenciaga2743
    @rhodvalenciaga2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    The powers of each family member is so extreme lmao. The One, Reverend Mother Jessica, Abomination, Worm God, etc.

    • @sephelutis
      @sephelutis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      It must be absolutely wild for your average Freeman to live your everyday being ruled by the literal pantheon from your myths

    • @MaledictGaming
      @MaledictGaming ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sometimes I wonder what it felt to the ancient peoples of Egypt, which believed the Pharaonic line to be divine. Or the Ancinet summerians living under their Kings of Kings

    • @FrostekFerenczy
      @FrostekFerenczy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Dune is all about escalation and over-escalation.

  • @passerby6168
    @passerby6168 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Dude. "I want my brother" just kills me. Great scene.

  • @southerner66
    @southerner66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Daniela Amavia, the actress who played Alia, was fantastic in this role. You projected Alia's strength, her desperation, and her vulnerability to possession.

    • @astrobeno
      @astrobeno 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      pure atreides

  • @LaineyBug2020
    @LaineyBug2020 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    That 'I want my brother' gets me every time. Love the mirror of the scene from her childhood. Such superb acting. I hope the new Alia does her credit someday. It'll be hard to beat James' Leto as well, even though he's supposed to be 9.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The problem is verbal and emotional acting is hard enough for a child, add physical acting on top of that and you really just can't expect to put a child through that kind of treatment.
      Even Hollywood has its limits, if only for the sake of appearances.

    • @PhilAlm92
      @PhilAlm92 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mnomadvfx Yeah, aging up children in screen adaptations is usually the way to go. Game of thrones did it as well

    • @TheOakenTundrawolf
      @TheOakenTundrawolf ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Golden Path was Muad'dib's vision. He recanted the turning of the desert, which makes sense, the desert was where he met Chani. He was blinded by the path set before him, and the death of his wife. In the desert he had a new vision, the Golden Path. When Leto II was in the desert with his long lost father. Muad'dib relayed this new destiny to him. Upon Leto II's death, Arrakis became a desert once more. A lineage, a mere semi-catastrophic heart throb in time. The desert consuming what was once Muad'dib. The sands of time consume everything in the end. But sand does not disappear, it only changes form. The Atredes had many descendants. Were it not for The Golden Path, the Atredes would have been wiped from history completely. They might have lost their dynasty, but they preserved their name.
      The skies of Arrakis weeped because of Muad'dib.

    • @LetsGetitBoah
      @LetsGetitBoah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The New Alia is being played by the great Anya Taylor Joy, credit will be given

    • @TheMarkmcr
      @TheMarkmcr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@LetsGetitBoah pretty ironic if you think about it

  • @ScorpiusZA.
    @ScorpiusZA. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This miniseries and the first dune miniseries from the Sci-fi channel are the best Dune adaptations, imo. There is no competition.

  • @mariem24601
    @mariem24601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    This series is still my favorite adaptation. Particularly the costume decisions for Leto II or lack therof. Everyone else is dressed like they are in a bizarre opera and there’s Leto shirtless with his pants near falling off his hips. ❤

  • @seanbraley2772
    @seanbraley2772 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    i love the fact that she attacks him with a imperial knife a sigh of the infection of the baron but leto gives her a crest knife to end it a sigh to her that he still sees her as she was his aunt and a fremen

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx ปีที่แล้ว +16

      *Crys knife.

  • @xeroxsaw1303
    @xeroxsaw1303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    I love how while Leto and Alia are fighting the courtiers in the background are like:
    “What a nice wedding this is”

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Well you don't step into a intra family fight. Even Gramma wasn't going to step into it and Leto already laid waste to the Fedykin guards. No one else was being attacked, why run just turn on your cellphones and post the wedding disaster on Instagram!!☺ eta & TIKTOK!

    • @mike140298
      @mike140298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      A wedding without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.
      Oh wait, wrong universe...

    • @daviddavidson9923
      @daviddavidson9923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      More like "spice is a hell of a drug"

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@mike140298 A Greek wedding? haha per movie stereotype The Atreides are Greek descendant family that settled on Caladan

    • @Mad.Chemist
      @Mad.Chemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mike140298
      👍🏻🤣🤣🤣 I am sooooo dead! Comment of the month! Beautiful!

  • @ChuckECheeez
    @ChuckECheeez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Prob about 1% the budget of either Dune movie, but still the only adaptation to do any justice to The Weirding Way

  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "They shed water for the dead!"
    Even if Alia (the Baron) had tried pushing that blade in, Leto's sandtrout skin was like armor.

  • @fubaralakbar6800
    @fubaralakbar6800 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Alia: "Seize him!"
    Leto II, 90 seconds later with bodies all over the floor: "I'm sorry, say again?"

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "I will not let them come close to seizing me.
      But I will give you the knife, and you will have to choose what to do with it."

    • @capuchinhelper
      @capuchinhelper 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The palace guards would have been the best of the best of Fremen warriors as well.

  • @AliaOfTheKnife10191
    @AliaOfTheKnife10191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +539

    Alia’s demise wasn’t Jessica’s fault, but it wasn’t NOT Jessica’s fault, either.

    • @veralenora7368
      @veralenora7368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Nice.

    • @Stitchman3875
      @Stitchman3875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      If anything, it was the Bene-Gesserit’s fault for creating that abomination doctrine.

    • @marysueeasteregg
      @marysueeasteregg ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@Stitchman3875 Don't follow your reasoning. Doctrine or no, Alia was possessed, by the memories/persona of an evil ancestor.

    • @Fable_7
      @Fable_7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marysueeasteregg Made possible by slow mental breakdown started by the Bene-Gerrserit's proganda

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Stitchman3875 Alia was both unplanned by Jessica and the Bene Gesserit and mutated by the Waters of Life. She suffered from other memory of Baron Harkonnen.

  • @AdeptKing
    @AdeptKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    The last thing she calls for is her brother again who's already gone.

  • @TheBongReyes
    @TheBongReyes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    When people ask me about Dune after watching the new movies, they ask which adaptation I thought was the best “book accurate” version. I tell them the miniseries.
    When you get past the low budget and limited cast because of the budget. The effort to put as much of the books in the miniseries was amazing.

    • @yourfavoriteshiba7645
      @yourfavoriteshiba7645 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Low budget, but more lore accurate. I think that's a fair trade.

    • @Nickname-ef9tv
      @Nickname-ef9tv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The miniseries far better catched how multidimensional politics in Dune are. The Bene Gesseret, the Padisha family, the guild navigators, the Tlailaxu, the Fremen, the new imperial cult, they all do not simply take sides for or against Paul Atreides, they have their own agendas and form a complex web of alliances and intrigues. Villeneuve's Dune is far more simple in that regard.

    • @RicoRaynn
      @RicoRaynn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It does a solid job of telling the story to those who have never encountered it as well.
      As much as I like the look and vibe of villeneuve‘a films, they are probably the worst at explaining the lore to someone who has never encountered the IP before.
      They look incredible, sound amazing, but blow balls when it comes to relaying the complex story.

    • @northernpaladin66
      @northernpaladin66 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true

    • @Loki-g3k
      @Loki-g3k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where can I watch the full series?

  • @souless08
    @souless08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Have watched this 100 times and this scene always hits me just like the first time. Her character was sooooo deep and complex, you hated her, felt sorry for her and still loved her all at the same time. Superb 100%

    • @michaelriddick7116
      @michaelriddick7116 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "I want my brother ... " 💔💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @GreenHavoc
    @GreenHavoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    WOW, this sense still hits me hard. Alia is such a tragic character fighting all the voices and compulsions in her head--not alike many of us who must confront our own internal demons. May she rest in peace.

    • @Gyrant
      @Gyrant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Dune is full of tragic characters. Alia, Paul, everyone named Leto, etc. The Dune Saga did "Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" better than any other. The greatest of them all being Leto, who knew he was choosing to be the villain for millennia to come, and could only hope his plan would work and save Humanity and maybe someone in the deep future would understand his choice and redeem him.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Alia is basically Ikarus.
      Her genetic memories are the sun and the spice are the wings.
      Point being she flew a little too close to the sun and got burned down.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mnomadvfx Except that Icarus had a choice and he flew too close to the Sun because of his pride while Alia didn't have choice and later even control over herself. So no, not a valid comparison.

  • @badnoodlez
    @badnoodlez 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    all these years later and this miniseries is still 🔥

  • @ororomunroe4055
    @ororomunroe4055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Loved James in this, he's come such a long way

    • @Omertahun
      @Omertahun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh Its really him, I was like is this him? Nah but very similar face

  • @Germania9
    @Germania9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    If the 2020 movie version becomes successful, I hope the sequel keeps this scene. It's far better scene than the book, shows how Alia came full circle, her vulnerability and deep down, she still loves her mother.

    • @dante6985
      @dante6985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      "It's far better scene than the book" - Strongly disagree (not that you're obliged to care). It's a good scene, and effective scene, but just different. In the book, she still calls out for her mother and ends up jumping out the window because it's all she has within her strength to do (and it's one of her two choices from the Leto II, the other being the Fremen trial of possession, which she will fail.) Here, Leto II gives her a knife, kinda saying "taking your own life is your only way out of this". The window was probably omitted more for budgetary reasons, given the scale of sci fi's limited sets, then any narrative purprose.

    • @thefilmeffect6089
      @thefilmeffect6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It is a good scene, but I prefer just the utter tragedy of her death in the book. It's so sad and brutal in the book and I love it. I do like this version, but not over the book.

    • @patrickmcglonejr8163
      @patrickmcglonejr8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It has been successful my friend ^_^, I hope they do another rendition of Messiah and Children of Dune

    • @sallysanchez8891
      @sallysanchez8891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I actually agree with you here. The beauty of the simplicity in this adaption's version of this scene just speaks wonders for the characters. Not that I don't like the book version, but they did the series so so well that I have to agree, I find it's beautiful and tragic and brutal all at the same time but it's subtler brutality, which somehow seems even more tragic. The acting is phenomenal.
      I wouldn't say that you prefer anything over the book in public though, because you'll have people jumping on your back from every direction. The following for the book is absolutely massive and quite a bit obsessive, not that that's bad, but it means the Dune loyalty is to the book over anything else, so saying something is better to do with Dune won't go down well. :)

    • @LiterallyGod
      @LiterallyGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This wont be in the sequal and neither will leto ii

  • @Tulane_Gargoyle
    @Tulane_Gargoyle ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I love that look at 3:54. It is like he is saying in a mocking tone, "Great-Grandfather Vladimir, is there a problem?" Leto knows Alia will not allow Vladimir to harm him.
    I also love the look at 4:23, where Leto lets Alia know he loves her, and he forgives her for what the Baron made her do.

    • @Bangpath247
      @Bangpath247 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      the problem is there isnt any chance at all that the knife would pierce his not skin. Hes pretty much indestructible at this point in the story.

  • @magetaaaaaa
    @magetaaaaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I don't remember if she tried to fight him in the book or not, but it makes sense that she would at least try. She was so powerful even in Messiah that she could push the practice dummy machine to its limit. Even Paul was shocked at how advanced of a fighter she was.

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl ปีที่แล้ว +52

    A rare case of a scene better than the book.

  • @shikary100
    @shikary100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    You have to admire Alia for trying to stab Leto after he mopped the floor with all of her guards

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      lol that is another reason why I like this version vs the books because it shows ALIA of the Knife lore about her fighting knife expertise. She was fully possessed in the thrall of the Baron personae SHE WILLINGLY EMBRACED ACCEPTED TO CONTROL HER TO MAINTAIN POWER and support her hate of her mother & jealousy of her niece&nephew. She chose to respond & feel that way as if a poor wittow girl victim with all the Rev Mother ancestor power she had at her fingertips but CHOOSES the BARON, she killed, as her protector mental power. As a reader fan I don't feel sorry for her once into Dune Messiah she was given power during Paul's reign & full tyrant leadership after.

  • @michaeljohnson5444
    @michaeljohnson5444 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I was a kid when I read the original trilogy, and I have always thought that Alia Atreides is one of the most effective tragic characters in all of SF literature. I remember thinking that Amavia's performance was sometimes uneven, but this scene (and the scene when she confronts "the Preacher," witnesses his death, and is dragged away screaming) are absolutely fantastic. The slight changes they make to the way it plays out in the book, including the callback to the scene in the first mini-series...the tear and "I want my brother," bring the tears every time. So well done. I'm actually surprised this didn't lead to more roles for Amavia. She had to carry a lot of this mini-series...apart from a brilliant first performance from James MacAvoy.

    • @MichaelMaxwell747
      @MichaelMaxwell747 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was completely captivated by Amavia and her portrayal of Alia The Knife!

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx ปีที่แล้ว

      The greatest irony is that Alia had her mother to protect her from the worst of abomination and yet the twins managed to escape it without a mother or a father capable of helping them (Irulan does not count, she's a Bene Gesserit but not of a degree capable of helping them).

  • @Rich_Daniel78
    @Rich_Daniel78 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    James McAvoy is such an amazing actor. HE SLAYED in this amazing scene. Thanks klyana130 for putting this scene on TH-cam. 💪👍👊

  • @gordonfreeman-g5w
    @gordonfreeman-g5w ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I just watched this today and man. What an emotional episode. I actually felt so sorry for Alia. After finishing the book I wanted to see it how it looked on screen. I feel sorry for Alia because she didn't ask to be pre-born, and it's as if her life was cursed from the very beginning, destined for life of turmoil because of her power. And Jessica, losing her entire family on that planet on two separate occasions (apart from the grand kids). It's safe to say she probably never returned to Arrakis for the rest of her life.

  • @kellymoses8566
    @kellymoses8566 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Jessica watched both her children die minutes apart

  • @Greenalex89
    @Greenalex89 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Poor Alia had no one to protect her from the inner voices, while Leto and Ghanima had their parents. Why was Jessica absend for so long? The twins were surprised by Jessicas sudden visit and Paul has fearfully forsakened the golden path. If anyone, only Paul had the sight or premonition of what might happen with his sister. Maybe her fate was engraved into the path he chose or tried to refuse to chose.
    Before the twins were born, Paul suffered from the awareness that no one will ever truly understand him (and his sister) and their inner torture. He and Alia suffered from being hopelessly alone in the universe. He couldnt bare it and exiled himself, leaving Muad'dib behind, while Alia gave in to the demons in hopelessness and desperation. She knew only her brother could comprehent what she was going through. Perhaps that was the reason her final thought was of Paul. The last grasp of hope and, at least, some salvation through understanding in a inevitably lonely life, till the very end.
    Thinking about this makes this scene dozens of times sadder..

    • @khalduras784
      @khalduras784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The twins had each other. Their parents were mostly absent aswell. Sadly Alia was pretty much abandoned

  • @tonycmac
    @tonycmac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is THE film adaption - a very powerful moment excellently done. Muad'Dib had just passed. Leto II had let Ghanima know that he was alive and well, and showed off his transformation. The Golden Path lies before us - but not for Alia.

  • @aqueen04
    @aqueen04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I remember seeing this as a teenager and being utterly heartbroken over Alia's fate, even though I knew it was coming. She was my favorite character, and this scene is just utterly devastating, watching her completely lose her shit and try to murder her own nephew, only to gain control of herself long enough to kill herself and end the threat that she posed to everyone.
    I sometimes wonder if/how things might have been different if Alia had been born before Jessica had taken the waters of life.
    Thanks for sharing this clip! One of my favorites!

  • @PBart7
    @PBart7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bro I hope they will adapt Children of Dune and God Emperor. This whole entire saga is so beautifully tragic

  • @Ubermensch9240
    @Ubermensch9240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    0:58 Worms can roar apparently. Then again according to Zarathustra, this is the Lion challenging the Dragon. Tearing down the religious idol so a better one can be made.

  • @SciHeartJourney
    @SciHeartJourney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    All they needed was a bucket of water, or a garden water hose to defeat Leto.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      LOLMAO, but Leto wasn't fully enveloped yet and those few on him just would have SPREAD wider across his body trying to trap block the water. It would not have hurt Leto anymore than spraying a normal person with a water hose, as Leto could have super sped away from the streams.

    • @SciHeartJourney
      @SciHeartJourney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@klyanadkmorr 🤔 LOL 😂

    • @BlackSharn
      @BlackSharn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol, reminds me of the aliens in M. Night Shyamalan's Signs

    • @kenneth69
      @kenneth69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or to shed a tear. And he did that himself.

    • @gordonfreeman-g5w
      @gordonfreeman-g5w ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @andrewlim9345
    @andrewlim9345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I think Alia is my favourite character in the Dune Trilogy. Reading through Children of Dune.

  • @Samuraith2077
    @Samuraith2077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    It's truly kind of messed up what the writers write about Leto afterward. After all is said and done Leto gives up his life in worm form. Kind of tragic.

    • @Razaiel
      @Razaiel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      That was the whole point of the Golden Path.

    • @targard.quantumfrack6854
      @targard.quantumfrack6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The writer. He sacrifices what his father, Paul, couldn't resolve himself to: his humanity, for the sake of Humanity as a whole.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some E. Euro religio fascist tried posting forfkssake the JIHAD of mindless religious worship slaughter in Paul's name was the Golden Path and Paul was somehow restricting it and that was his failure- when the TRUTH FRANK'S MESSAGE is Paul's fatalist thinking LET THE JIHAD CRUSADE GO ON MAKING IT A MASSIVE FAILURE HORROR! BECAUSE IT REQUIRED a godhead forever ran by fake religious powermongers who had no wish to prepare or develop the human race for self reliance independence survival. Seeing the farfuture danger to the human species Paul's Muadib Jihad had created Paul REFUSED was SCARED of an eternity of LEADING humanity on that GOLDEN PATH to fix his WRONGS & SAVE HUMANITY. A mindless Jihad of reactionary slaughter was not the answer NOR WHAT FRANK HERBERT WAS TEACHING. AND whenever some 'Bot(USA ,russian,Iran, or ISIS reactionary)conservative & religious fanatics try posting online try coopting twisting DUNE into their hateful violent narrative please REBUKE them!.

    • @GenesisProgressive72
      @GenesisProgressive72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always though it was the coolest part. Gotta love God Emperor of Dune

    • @mmccrownus2406
      @mmccrownus2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Herbert wrote very weird stories

  • @AuskaDezjArdamaath
    @AuskaDezjArdamaath ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Maybe, if Jessica had not abandoned Alia like she did. If she had shown her love and affection. Maybe Alia would not have fallen to abomination. She had the deck stacked against her by her mother’s choice and was left behind.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jessica DID show Alia love and left by the time Alia was a grown woman and a priestess. It was ON Alia to not hide her internal problems when people asked she only opened to Duncan a 'robot' sworn to her. So stop blaming Jessica. People complain when others try forcing help on people who refuse and Alia was full on her greatness feeling she should have been the Kwitzach or had the messiah baby. Alia FELL to grandfather Harkonnen because she as her own choice became greedy for power attention and looked to the voices without protection ON HER OWN KNOWING THE DANGERS from centuries of memories. She knew and Jessica had nothing she could do to stop or help any more than the internal knowledge ALIA ALREADY HAD.

  • @alextomazcarvalho7916
    @alextomazcarvalho7916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Poor Alia.

  • @lorihensley4962
    @lorihensley4962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Alia, an abomination, she choose to end her possession thru suicide, and she could not kill Leto. Respect.

  • @tomb7942
    @tomb7942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Prince is thinking, that well, every family has their issues, but DAMN!

  • @mansondelacy
    @mansondelacy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Looking forward to seeing a similar scene with Anya Taylor Joy in the coming years.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To match this she will need to bring her A game.

  • @MMLavi
    @MMLavi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I’m not sure this I remember this scene like this. Alia was given 2 choices, the window or the fremen trial of possession...she jumped...but I guess it makes sense for her to die in her mother’s arms, excellent acting though, hearing the Baron speaking from her mouth 😱

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I found this more theatrically engaging and vivid, the display of Alia as she gains control to finally end it was better this way Shakespearean than the Book has her suddenly go robotic jerking walk to a window and disappears from the scene and no reactions from the family, GRRMartin would have done this way Shakespearean but Herbert kinda forgot that theatrical concept and only was lieral literary reader envisioning the scene
      Also the TV version knife attack by her showing how changed superior Leto II had become was better action exciting IMHO than book's written her trying to kick him and he throws her around like a ragdoll by her feet

    • @ComeauSoftwareSolutions
      @ComeauSoftwareSolutions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They had to condense a lot for the series and this played better for a television audience. It also captured Jessica's grief that was shown through internal dialogue at the end of the book.

    • @targard.quantumfrack6854
      @targard.quantumfrack6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ComeauSoftwareSolutions Jessica can grieve but she abandonned her daughter.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The thing is Alia NEVER ASKED HER MOTHER TO STAY. She was all wrapped up in being the new Regent Emperor and only asked Duncan to stay by her side. IMHO how could anyone have realized how unstable Alia was when she was running around leading so well and kept everyone at a distance trying to look perfect(I am the Rev Mother & holy with all Rev Mother memories bow to me Bulls#) like as if she was like Paul. Only her niece/nephew could pick up on it early and Jessica only AFTER being alerted of the drastic things happening on Arrakis and reports of Alia's new behavior. Alia was too far gone by then so fully tired of the Jessica BLAMES GAME going on as THERE WOULD BE NO PAUL NOR ALIA if Jessica had NOT TAKEN THE WATER OF LIFE or fought off Stilgar.

    • @targard.quantumfrack6854
      @targard.quantumfrack6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@klyanadkmorr Who could know? Jessica and The Bene Gesserit knew what she was. I know Jessica had *almost* no choice than to take the Water of Life during her pregnancy but she could have stayed at her side. She's her mother and Alia was her responsability.
      I need to reread the books now because I don't recall why Paul couldn't foresee that.

  • @CMDR_Verm
    @CMDR_Verm ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There were so many scenes in the Sci-Fi adaptation of Dune that brought me to tears that I hold it to me as one of the best series I have seen. I have re-watched it many times on DVD and it never fails to have an impact. Glorious.

  • @rogcrater8193
    @rogcrater8193 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Shirtless James MacAvoy doing Matrix kung fu never fails to make me laugh

  • @andreasmerkel5717
    @andreasmerkel5717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It is a kind of Irony, that James McEvoy fight against a female version of "The Horde" before the eyes of the Borg Queen...

  • @duvipearson6251
    @duvipearson6251 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    She isnt herself when she is hungry

  • @alcohol-freebeer3642
    @alcohol-freebeer3642 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn, Professor Xavier worked with the Borg Queen one time? They kept that quiet.

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quiet? I'm pretty sure they made a whole feature film about Professor Xavier resisting working with the Borg Queen again! (after that one time he'd done it already)

  • @josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517
    @josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Alia actress was the best actress in the series. This, the Sci-Fi channel version is a better rendition of the books than the current movies (2024) but I like the current movies too.

  • @molasorrosalom4846
    @molasorrosalom4846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Julie Cox is a goddess.

  • @avidian888
    @avidian888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still my favorite Dune movies... Still bringing tears to my eyes...

  • @riogrande5761
    @riogrande5761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such a sad scene and so tragic was the life of Alia. It was effectively and well played.

  • @FuneralProcession
    @FuneralProcession ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Next time you wanna do space psychedelics, check if you are pregnant or good to go ahead tripping...

  • @xamalion7334
    @xamalion7334 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm really excited how this will play out in Villeneuves version. I hope they cast a good actress for the role of Alia.

    • @jaweel6205
      @jaweel6205 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think their doing a trilogy, with an adaptation of Dune Messiah being the final act

  • @LaineyBug2020
    @LaineyBug2020 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In my head canon, even though it's not really in the book, when Jessica leans her head against Alia, she they are sharing. That way Alia can live on and Jessica can help her with the Baron.

  • @Adamhauk22
    @Adamhauk22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's so freman of her to drink her mother's tear before gasping I want my brother. Tragedy

  • @TheEarlThePearl1
    @TheEarlThePearl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Is everyone gonna just gloss over that weird roar Leto II let out when he walked in?

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The sandtrout have already gotten to his vocal chords & more in the books, this just SHOWS/you hear LetoII has transformed to become in-human part worm. The fact everyone suddenly turned their heads in shock hearing him roaring while both he & Ghanima enter did not seem like GLOSSING OVER hearing him roar.

    • @TheEarlThePearl1
      @TheEarlThePearl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@klyanadkmorr yeah I know all that. I was more referring to no one mentioning it in the comments. It made me laugh since a good roar sound effect clearly wasn’t in the budget. They did the best they could tho.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well Sandworms are FICTIONAL and you hear the WORMS thru the series, so those SAME roars come out of Leto's mouth slightly less rumbling because SMALL HUMAN body. really there is no proper Roar to be had from a 5'9" actor just gaping his mouth open.

    • @metalore
      @metalore ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheEarlThePearl1 I like how they went ham in this show at a few parts such as that. Something the 2021 movie is missing.

  • @bigbunduru5136
    @bigbunduru5136 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ending of this book is spectacular.

  • @priyac7054
    @priyac7054 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MY GOD IF THIS IS EVER ADAPTED FOR THE MOVIES

  • @DrkMynd
    @DrkMynd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dune can never be done justice in a movie style format. It NEEDS a Spartacus, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, etc style format.
    A multiple seasons long series adaptation....to get ALL of it in there.
    I say the same for Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series.
    Dune and The Dark Tower both REQUIRE a series like those mentioned to even come CLOSE to being a proper, faithful and GOOD adaptation.
    There is just TOO MUCH in there to cram into a few movies.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which is why I criticized the new Dune movie viciously because there was 15-20min of filling scenes to bring out the internal & intergalactic politics and character traits arcs cut left unincluded and the director REFUSES to release for blueray or DVD or HBO stream a longer version edit. Making the 3 movies like he's just did the first section is worthless IMHO, because the 3rd is going to gut truncate squeeze Dune:MESSIAH into. If Deni had instead replicated the scenes script of the Syfy TV 3 day DUNE only series THEN this new effort would be worthy but then people are only interested in pure action spectacle now that Disney MCU has taken over theater content style. Things like Lord of the Rings would nowdays be considered too talky bloated.

    • @peachmelba1000
      @peachmelba1000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@klyanadkmorr Thank you. Villeneuve is a good technical filmmaker, and Arrival wasn't bad, and neither was 2049, but his Dune is garbage.
      Aside from what you mentioned, the Harkonnens are just so off the mark, in terms of tone.
      Way too obviously sinister, from a visual point of view, and the Baron just grunts a few words here and there. The Baron is one English literature's greatest characters, let alone villains, and he's just reduced to a bad Marlon Brando impression in a suspensor suit.
      And ffs what the hell is with that stupid vocal thing in the score every ten minutes? It's so on the nose. Incredibly corny.
      The movie _looks_ great, and I really have no issues with the casting even, but again, it needed to be a series.
      It's a very valuable story about human nature and to reduce it to just an entertainment product is incredibly cynical.

  • @ihavegymnastics
    @ihavegymnastics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for presenting the Children Of Dune clips in your Drive!!!!!

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please spread the wealth repost or link my stuff for others to learn and enjoy the DUNE world

  • @Savior20061
    @Savior20061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saw this scene years ago as a kid but didn't know what movie it was from. Glad I found it after 15+ years.

  • @bigalmou2261
    @bigalmou2261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Leto "Would you still love me if I was a worm?" Atreides

  • @CollinWhites
    @CollinWhites 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Atreides throne room in this version of Dune Messiah/Children of Dune is cool!

  • @westloves
    @westloves 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The tragedy of St Alia is beyond words, it gets me every time.

  • @kirillaristov7235
    @kirillaristov7235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow fight scenes still looks great

  • @shaihulud69
    @shaihulud69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    pauvre alia, il lui fallait de l amour , dune etait trop aride...

  • @timsteele8063
    @timsteele8063 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    man I used to have this movie on DVD and let someone borrow it... and I don't think they ever have it back. that was like years ago... ducks cause I wantedto watch it again after the dunes 2021 movie came out..

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the description I offered this
      My digital DUNE stuff -- read-DUNE NOVELS PDF/watch/listen-audio on phone
      My DUNE ARCHIVES ZONTAR BLOG - FREE FILES to download 2borrow or just stream - at tinyurl.com/2mr23knc or direct- Google Drive - tiny.cc/DUNE

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Hoopla" is a free service connected with a lot of public libraries in the US which has it to stream, if that's relevant for where you live.

  • @sparrowhawk9015
    @sparrowhawk9015 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That actor that played young Leto did a splendid job of portraying someone with infinite wisdom.

    • @akanshapandey5938
      @akanshapandey5938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That actor 😮 It's a young James McAvoy!

  • @scribblypuns2577
    @scribblypuns2577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how did i not know this existed?? Buying the blu ray immediately. I can't wait to watch with my husband

  • @galihjati443
    @galihjati443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Irulan looks like a proud mother

  • @Lumadil1
    @Lumadil1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You know what is going through Farad'n's mind "Ghamina is hot, but what shit storm i'm suppose to marry in to? Salusa Secundus is more hospitable than this shit

  • @moscallica1012
    @moscallica1012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It would be great if McAvoy enters the Dune Messiah cast, maybe as a Scytalus (after his role in Split, he would be perfect choice for Tleilaxan)

  • @shastajazzy
    @shastajazzy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This scene is iconic in my head

  • @selvamartaperalta8321
    @selvamartaperalta8321 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Divina Daniela Amavia, brillante en su rol de Alia.

  • @robertsmall5168
    @robertsmall5168 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s going to be heartbreaking when Anya portrays this breakdown

  • @crhu319
    @crhu319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:57 you believe that is The Baron in there. And that Alia fights him and wins, and destroys the Baron at the cost of her own life. Great job.

  • @pendorran
    @pendorran 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Poor Leto.

  • @mostlycloudy3069
    @mostlycloudy3069 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wow, Bruce Leto. nice.

  • @TwistedSisterHaratiofales
    @TwistedSisterHaratiofales 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She was such a formidable little girl in 1982, she should have went and joined the Jedi Order.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Bene Gesserit are the SW Jedi Order. Alia would have sided with Palpatine and the Sith as she's anti-BG who damned her as Abomination.

  • @LaineyBug2020
    @LaineyBug2020 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still my favorite Dune movies.

  • @Atrulion
    @Atrulion 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imo, this was way better in the book. The way she unexpectedly just drops from the window and doesn't even scream on the way down is just so much more tragic. I might have forgotten some details from the book btw. But here, you see it on her face, you fully expect it, and they hold you there knowing what's gonna happen for way too long.

  • @Ubermensch9240
    @Ubermensch9240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    By the way. Is anyone getting Demi-Fiend from SMT vibes?

  • @strikeforcealpha9343
    @strikeforcealpha9343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss early 2000's sci fi, when writers still gave a shit.

  • @청솔향-g9u
    @청솔향-g9u ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No matter how weak human beings are, they always have the power to defend their own dignity!

  • @deliarodz3173
    @deliarodz3173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember watching this on Syfy 😩👌

  • @yourfavoriteshiba7645
    @yourfavoriteshiba7645 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A tragic figure indeed. At least in the very end, she showed that she still loved her brother.

  • @ultmotive
    @ultmotive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is gonna be hard to beat if they adapt these books. While the special effects are dated here, the acting chops of this cast are top tier. I felt like some of the dialogue in the recent movies, especially part 2, were a little too Marvel MCU'd

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ITA, I review Denis recent movies as epic eye candy real desert feel that needed the Syfy WRITER SCRIPTS.
      Syfy has Better Fremen village seitches feel life scenes than Dune2 Chani gossiping with her Mall chick friends ogling dragging boitoi Timothee-Paul

    • @rigajykra3159
      @rigajykra3159 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@klyanadkmorr😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hollybabyyy
    @hollybabyyy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I had no idea this existed

  • @utoob7361
    @utoob7361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this production was very underrated
    even if it did not have Weirding Modules

  • @DathanielTDK
    @DathanielTDK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A horrific and tragic price paid for the Golden Path. One among many. 😢

  • @tharunsankar4926
    @tharunsankar4926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sweet home Arrakeen

  • @cardinalwilson8034
    @cardinalwilson8034 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    poor alia

  • @a.m.armstrong8354
    @a.m.armstrong8354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Almost brilliant, but didn't Leto spin the living daylights out of her before she chose the scenic route to the Great Square in Arrakeen?!

  • @riccardorottoli5361
    @riccardorottoli5361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Professor X with QuikSilver Speed

  • @keaneoRX7
    @keaneoRX7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Young professor Xavier is actually the Flash !