The problem with Edward VIII choosing to stay "true to himself" was that because he gave up the throne, everyone else had to stop being themselves and take on that responsibilities.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 but then why there are photos of Queen Elisabeth and he sister practicing the nazi salut along their father the brand new kind?
yeah ikr, meanwhile if charles had given up the throne for camilla, we could've had princess anne as our queen, which would've been amazing. diana would've been alive. charles and camilla would've lived happily ever after, instead of hated and cursed by the whole world. but i guess we wouldn't have had harry, william. then kate, louis, george and charlotte. it's tragic but i guess things happened for a reason. God had His plan
Charles seems to have been such a tortured soul. Such depth. It seems that he has carried the weight of the world on his shoulders since childhood. No wonder he loves Camilla. She is his ray of sunshine.
@@loulicious5882 So what. Most men marry a mummy figure. Or are you too young to realise that. The majority of men want to be mothered by their wives. Diana was too young and immature and needy herself. She had Daddy issues. Charles and Diana could not give each other what they needed.
"Weight of the world on his shoulders" Oh please. The man has barely lifted his pinky finger ever since he was born with a golden spoon in his mouth. In other words, Charles has barely experienced what the actual common British working man goes through daily with exhausting work hours, trying to pay taxes on top of rent/mortgage and food. His little love triangle problem with Camilla and Diana is trife that little highschool boys experience and grow out of by the time they're in college. The common British man today is so overworked & underpaid that he barely has time to even think about being in a stupid love triangle.
Actually if you look at the real camilla she does look beuatiful and stunning. And the crown messed camilla up and made her evne more dirty and needy which she wasn't in real life, but yet again the crown is for entertainment and TV show. I'm just saying don't shows like the crown are not always accurate
I know the crowd was a drama, and not everybody knows the true story, only the people that were involved. But it did provide me with wanting to have sympathy for her.
Even women who knew her then have said they understood exactly what men saw in her. And besides her erotic appeal, she was a warm, relaxed, and sympathetic personality with a great sense of humor. The kind of woman men like to be around.
I read that the first thing Camilla said to Charles was something like "My ancestors shagged your ancestors" or words to that effect. I have always been fond of her since hearing that. Spunky and not needy is what I suspect a seemingly tortured and repressed soul like Charles needed.
i would've liked camilla if only she didn't inadvertently ruin diana's marriage, heart and therefore life. what a sad thing. she seemed fun and likable, i get why charles liked her so much
I'm not so sure the mariage would have gone that well even WITHOUT Camilla, if we're talking about the Crown only the way Charle was so different to Diana.
Maybe the Spencers should not have lied to the Windsors about Diana's mental state. And maybe Diana shouldn't have cheated on Charles constantly. And then maybe Charles wouldn't have sought out Camilla. Asking a man to countenance the paternity of his child is too much. And Charles was a royal, the heir to the throne.
@@loner1878 because grandma diana pressed her to mantent the hornor for her mother, she be cancer the weeding, and camila every time only wants its be queen, because william and harry say camila only talk with hims with convienence
@@daniB70 Honestly if that woman put the effort she puts into manipulation manipulation and being an utter Karen, into educating herself and upgrading her "fashion", and some exercise she'd be a dynamo like Plato was
How come the king has not invited Josh to have tea at the palace. If I was Charles......I would not miss that opportunity! Such a lovely and cheerful young man would bring some joy to the place
Camilla once wrote a letter to Diana that said she couldn't wait to see her ring in person when they had lunch and put it on her bed. Diana knew about the affair at the time. Diana once found out about their being a ball which the prince had told her not to attend and she went knowing that he would invite Camilla. She went downstairs to the basement and saw the two talking. She confronted them and Camilla protested "its easy for you, you have your sons". Recently Camilla said that Kate Middleton should not marry William because she is too common. Camilla is not a good woman and there is nothing about her that is remarkable. She is a greedy and vindictive person who coveted a married man with two children and had the nerve to continue after his wife died.
I just know that the Crown was a well done drama… Loosely based in fact. And I’m not British, so I’m looking at this as a total outsider. The way she was portrayed in the show, it did provide me with some sympathy for her…
Julie Hertz The incident you are speaking of when Diana confronted Camilla was not a ball. It was a private Birthday Party. Diana was invited but it was not expected that she would accompany Charles. At the time that Diana confronted Camilla about Charles, Diana herself was or had been involved in her own affairs. Barry Mannake and James Hewitt. So. In that context Camilla's response to Diana at that time was quite understandable. Yes Diana said that she wanted her husband but by that time she herself had already had 1 or 2 other men. Context is everything. Furthermore you yourself say that Diana knew about Charles affair with Camilla even at the time of the engagement and yet she married him! Camilla loves Charles. That is very obvious. They are happy and they were meant for each other. Camilla has always been a relaxed, warm hearted and down to earth country woman. She never sought the Crown. It was Diana who dreamed of being the Princess of Wales whereas Camilla has always loved Charles the man.
@@marigold6920 Regardless of her having her own affairs, Charles married a 19 year old girl and took complete advantage of her and caused her to suffer. Had he not been unfaithful to her, from the very beginning, I doubt that Diana would have had any affairs. If Charles loved Camilla so much, why did he not step aside and forget about being the next king? Camilla, being ‘warm hearted’ is a joke considering she continued to see a married man with children, and didn’t care about the pain and suffering her and Charles were causing Diana.
@@marigold6920 It was a birthday party, you're correct about that. I can't agree about Diana not loving Charles though. She was asked whether she would take him back even after it all happened and she said she would. Every time she was asked whether she loved him she said yes and he diverted the question. I believe Diana loved Charles more than Camilla. Love is about letting go and liberating. Love is about thinking about the other person before yourself. Diana let Charles go even when she had 2 sons with him. Camilla made Charles risk his future throne, the stability of his family, his marriage, his reputation simply because of their attraction. If she loved Charles she would also love his sons, she would have let the relationship go out of respect for them and how they must feel about her now their mother is dead. I believe she has lust for Charles and that a lot of it is based on the story of her grandmother who was the mistress of his grandfather.
@@julieherz8909 I agree that love also means knowing when to stop, but you got it the wrong way around. It was Diana who would not give up Charles even when he was very direct about wanting a divorce (remember the scene in The Crown when it's Diana who refuses to give up on the marriage and forces in front of his parents to try again) Camilla on the other hand told Charles a good few times that there was no future in it for them and to forget about her. Btw in real life Camilla gets on well with Charles' sons, so that is not the issue. I think Camilla was seriously tired of all the drama and just wanted to be with Charles in peace but that was tragically only possible after the accident.
@@loner1878 Princess Diana suffered of depression and bulimia most of her life in a time where depression was considered a taboo. When she got engaged with Charles at NINETEEN YEARS OLD it got worse. HE DID THAT TO HER. It wasn't her fault, and it will NEVER be the victim's fault. Those ADULTS set a trap for a innocent and naive TEENAGER. Disgusting people, you too.
@@karenpontes5509 So you admit it existed beforehand. How is it his fault if she was already suffering from it? Like I said, it was a bad match from the start and both were miserable.
I love this depiction weather accurate or not because although Charles is an intellectual none of the women of his life were 😀. Diana wasn’t of her own accord and if this depiction is accurate Camilla isn’t either 😊. Which doesn’t mean that they are not sharp. But it’s funny because for all his intellectual side Charles actually likes girly girls. 😉😊
I love how they keep clapping on about him being King and I'm just over here like *"bruh she will likely outlive you"* Also honestly the Duke of York still using that ridiculous red suitcase. THE KING.....stop the cap
What you should if you didn't have freedom to choose what you want in your life. I would to see a lot of you in his position forced to do things you didn't want
'The Crown' should reflect reality. Let the Queen's life of service remind us of the huge, tangible power for peace and stability the British monarchy is for everyone in Britain, the commonwealth and for the world. In the 19th & 20th centuries the U.S.A, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Greece suffered in various ways civil wars, political storms, and dictatorships. This shows what can go wrong in the absence of a head of state which is above politics, which opposes illegal dictatorship and helps keep the peace. If there are many reasons England, Wales, Scotland, Canada and Australia have had no civil war since Culloden in 1746, having a constitutional monarchy is an important one. In the UK, 'peace' in formal speech is "The Queen's Peace". Of course the Queen & Prince Philip had their failings as parents, and Prince Philip could be tactless. Whatever mistakes the royal family have made, let us be grateful for the service they give, and for the difference the monarchy makes for the better, in the world. There will always be violence in the world, and billions of people who know or understand nothing of the British monarchy. The value of the British crown since the 1700s is, many billions of people have lived under it without civil war, lynching, dictatorship in their lives.
It is chilling how it is similar to that Oprah interview, and not in a good way. There is something so out of dignity to talk about someone who can not reply back, not publicly, and defend. And I am not even British, so not a monarchist. It just seems wrong.
I think Charles will make a great job of king now as he's known his entire life that was his duty his job his "calling" so to speak! I'm not an anti royalist infact i admire all the royals and have much respect towards them bcoz they are a part of British culture and heritage as english tea the great sunday roast and the very tasty yummy full english which everyone who is born n bred in britain will know INSTANTLY wot a full english is!!! Long live our new king! Charles 3rd!
@@octoberfire13 INFP (introverted, intuitive, feeling, perception) is one of the personality types according to the Myers-Briggs indicator. You can take a version of the test online and discover what it says about you. I think PDB is an online personality database.
he was extremely emphatic with his wife indeed … Like seriously you will forget history because a nice looking actor cried nicely because he didn’t get what he wanted? I would say what he has is narcissistic and egomaniacal disorder.
Nonsense, she had nothing to envy her. Charles never loved Diana and loved Camilla all his life. Besides, Diana is dead and Camilla has become queen. It was Diana who envied Camilla for having Charles's love that she never got.
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I like how the crown managed to make every character earn my sympathy but also my anger. Flawed. Tragic story this love triangle
The problem with Edward VIII choosing to stay "true to himself" was that because he gave up the throne, everyone else had to stop being themselves and take on that responsibilities.
And the Nazism
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 but then why there are photos of Queen Elisabeth and he sister practicing the nazi salut along their father the brand new kind?
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Definitely an added bonus
yeah ikr, meanwhile if charles had given up the throne for camilla, we could've had princess anne as our queen, which would've been amazing. diana would've been alive. charles and camilla would've lived happily ever after, instead of hated and cursed by the whole world. but i guess we wouldn't have had harry, william. then kate, louis, george and charlotte. it's tragic but i guess things happened for a reason. God had His plan
@@peachbooks3199 Well we would not have Anne as Queen but Edward as King, before 2013 males would automatically rank higher than their older sisters
Love emerald fennel - marvelous actress. She is missed in call the midwife
Mags x
Me too, she was just phenomenal as Patsy, and I love the storyline of her with Delia
@@daniB70 Best couple in the show without a doubt😭😌❤️!
@@bitchfacehopkins9094 If you get a chance, you may want to check out a few of my other videos…I usually post a P&D one every weekend💜🐶🧁💜
@@daniB70 Thank you,
I will do that later😘.
(I adored them and I really wished we had more of them🥺❤️).
I wonder if the cast of call the midwife has watched the crown. Hope they have
I need more of her in the crown ❤️
100% she did such a amazing job portraying Camilla💜
She does a good job 👏
Agree bc I find myself hating her too 🤦🏻😂😂
Charles seems to have been such a tortured soul. Such depth. It seems that he has carried the weight of the world on his shoulders since childhood.
No wonder he loves Camilla. She is his ray of sunshine.
He want someone who will mommy him mommy issues. And then he cannot bare somone overshadowing him like Dianna
@@loulicious5882 So what. Most men marry a mummy figure. Or are you too young to realise that. The majority of men want to be mothered by their wives. Diana was too young and immature and needy herself. She had Daddy issues. Charles and Diana could not give each other what they needed.
i wish he just abdicated... he doesnt have the fortitude to finish the race... edward is looking the better choice amongst the brothers...
"Weight of the world on his shoulders"
Oh please. The man has barely lifted his pinky finger ever since he was born with a golden spoon in his mouth. In other words, Charles has barely experienced what the actual common British working man goes through daily with exhausting work hours, trying to pay taxes on top of rent/mortgage and food.
His little love triangle problem with Camilla and Diana is trife that little highschool boys experience and grow out of by the time they're in college. The common British man today is so overworked & underpaid that he barely has time to even think about being in a stupid love triangle.
This woman is far too pretty to play Camilla. The casting director was very generous.
Emerald Fennell is a beautiful woman…😉
The actress who plays diana is prettier than she was too.
@@loner1878 nop diana its more beuty
@@moonlight-th7fr You fail english
Actually if you look at the real camilla she does look beuatiful and stunning. And the crown messed camilla up and made her evne more dirty and needy which she wasn't in real life, but yet again the crown is for entertainment and TV show. I'm just saying don't shows like the crown are not always accurate
If this depiction is true, then I see why he likes Camilla so much. She's spunky and doesn't appear to need him.
I know the crowd was a drama, and not everybody knows the true story, only the people that were involved. But it did provide me with wanting to have sympathy for her.
Yes. Camilla is a very grounded person. Warm and kind and has a sunny personality.
@@marigold6920 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Even women who knew her then have said they understood exactly what men saw in her. And besides her erotic appeal, she was a warm, relaxed, and sympathetic personality with a great sense of humor. The kind of woman men like to be around.
I read that the first thing Camilla said to Charles was something like "My ancestors shagged your ancestors" or words to that effect. I have always been fond of her since hearing that. Spunky and not needy is what I suspect a seemingly tortured and repressed soul like Charles needed.
The real love story is between. Charles and camila ! 50 years and still in love ❤
i would've liked camilla if only she didn't inadvertently ruin diana's marriage, heart and therefore life. what a sad thing. she seemed fun and likable, i get why charles liked her so much
diana's marriage was a bad mismatch from day one.
@@loner1878 What you must remember is that Charles was pushed into this marriage by his parents
I'm not so sure the mariage would have gone that well even WITHOUT Camilla, if we're talking about the Crown only the way Charle was so different to Diana.
Maybe the Spencers should not have lied to the Windsors about Diana's mental state. And maybe Diana shouldn't have cheated on Charles constantly. And then maybe Charles wouldn't have sought out Camilla. Asking a man to countenance the paternity of his child is too much. And Charles was a royal, the heir to the throne.
@@loner1878 because grandma diana pressed her to mantent the hornor for her mother, she be cancer the weeding, and camila every time only wants its be queen, because william and harry say camila only talk with hims with convienence
Elizabeth's speech, oh the lies she tells.
The Queen Mum looking all evil in her frumpiness. Is it demanded you get frumpy in the Windsors?
Yeah, I’m totally not a fan of the manipulation within the family…😡
@@daniB70 Honestly if that woman put the effort she puts into manipulation manipulation and being an utter Karen, into educating herself and upgrading her "fashion", and some exercise she'd be a dynamo like Plato was
The pub entrance scene is how I want to arrive in every pub
Season 3 made me pity them. But season 4 said “hold up!”
I still felt bad for them in S4.
How come the king has not invited Josh to have tea at the palace. If I was Charles......I would not miss that opportunity! Such a lovely and cheerful young man would bring some joy to the place
Camilla once wrote a letter to Diana that said she couldn't wait to see her ring in person when they had lunch and put it on her bed. Diana knew about the affair at the time.
Diana once found out about their being a ball which the prince had told her not to attend and she went knowing that he would invite Camilla. She went downstairs to the basement and saw the two talking. She confronted them and Camilla protested "its easy for you, you have your sons".
Recently Camilla said that Kate Middleton should not marry William because she is too common.
Camilla is not a good woman and there is nothing about her that is remarkable. She is a greedy and vindictive person who coveted a married man with two children and had the nerve to continue after his wife died.
I just know that the Crown was a well done drama… Loosely based in fact. And I’m not British, so I’m looking at this as a total outsider. The way she was portrayed in the show, it did provide me with some sympathy for her…
Julie Hertz The incident you are speaking of when Diana confronted Camilla was not a ball.
It was a private Birthday Party.
Diana was invited but it was not expected that she would accompany Charles.
At the time that Diana confronted Camilla about Charles, Diana herself was or had been involved in her own affairs. Barry Mannake and James Hewitt.
So. In that context Camilla's response to Diana at that time was quite understandable. Yes Diana said that she wanted her husband but by that time she herself had already had 1 or 2 other men.
Context is everything.
Furthermore you yourself say that Diana knew about Charles affair with Camilla even at the time of the engagement and yet she married him!
Camilla loves Charles. That is very obvious. They are happy and they were meant for each other.
Camilla has always been a relaxed, warm hearted and down to earth country woman. She never sought the Crown.
It was Diana who dreamed of being the Princess of Wales whereas Camilla has always loved Charles the man.
@@marigold6920 Regardless of her having her own affairs, Charles married a 19 year old girl and took complete advantage of her and caused her to suffer. Had he not been unfaithful to her, from the very beginning, I doubt that Diana would have had any affairs. If Charles loved Camilla so much, why did he not step aside and forget about being the next king? Camilla, being ‘warm hearted’ is a joke considering she continued to see a married man with children, and didn’t care about the pain and suffering her and Charles were causing Diana.
@@marigold6920 It was a birthday party, you're correct about that. I can't agree about Diana not loving Charles though. She was asked whether she would take him back even after it all happened and she said she would. Every time she was asked whether she loved him she said yes and he diverted the question.
I believe Diana loved Charles more than Camilla. Love is about letting go and liberating. Love is about thinking about the other person before yourself. Diana let Charles go even when she had 2 sons with him. Camilla made Charles risk his future throne, the stability of his family, his marriage, his reputation simply because of their attraction. If she loved Charles she would also love his sons, she would have let the relationship go out of respect for them and how they must feel about her now their mother is dead.
I believe she has lust for Charles and that a lot of it is based on the story of her grandmother who was the mistress of his grandfather.
@@julieherz8909 I agree that love also means knowing when to stop, but you got it the wrong way around. It was Diana who would not give up Charles even when he was very direct about wanting a divorce (remember the scene in The Crown when it's Diana who refuses to give up on the marriage and forces in front of his parents to try again) Camilla on the other hand told Charles a good few times that there was no future in it for them and to forget about her. Btw in real life Camilla gets on well with Charles' sons, so that is not the issue. I think Camilla was seriously tired of all the drama and just wanted to be with Charles in peace but that was tragically only possible after the accident.
Finally get what charles saw in camilla
A mix between a cow and an old nanny
@@Alfakkin Who wasn't a needy whiner like diana
@@loner1878 Princess Diana suffered of depression and bulimia most of her life in a time where depression was considered a taboo. When she got engaged with Charles at NINETEEN YEARS OLD it got worse. HE DID THAT TO HER. It wasn't her fault, and it will NEVER be the victim's fault. Those ADULTS set a trap for a innocent and naive TEENAGER. Disgusting people, you too.
@@karenpontes5509 So you admit it existed beforehand. How is it his fault if she was already suffering from it? Like I said, it was a bad match from the start and both were miserable.
@@Alfakkin she has that weather-beaten look of Steve "Dredged From the River" Bannon.
Where is Camilla's husband, the man who laid down his wife for his country?
He remarried. He also attended Charles and Camilla's wedding.
@@marigold6920 Camilla is that you? 😂😂 You certainly have an agenda on this video.
You do know he was a serial cheater, right?
@@krislv9219 Do facts offend you? 😂😂
@@loner1878 with the one and only princess Anne
I love this depiction weather accurate or not because although Charles is an intellectual none of the women of his life were 😀. Diana wasn’t of her own accord and if this depiction is accurate Camilla isn’t either 😊. Which doesn’t mean that they are not sharp. But it’s funny because for all his intellectual side Charles actually likes girly girls. 😉😊
So Eeyore has an inner Tigger
Polo looks very dangerous
I love how they keep clapping on about him being King and I'm just over here like *"bruh she will likely outlive you"*
Also honestly the Duke of York still using that ridiculous red suitcase. THE KING.....stop the cap
WOMP WOMP, that aged poorly lol
“Charles” is made to talk bunkum about “David” who was a spoilt selfish man who only cared about his own pleasures.
As usual, Charles largely is whining.
He has a lot to complain about, his family sucked.
@@loner1878 oh give me a break..
What you should if you didn't have freedom to choose what you want in your life. I would to see a lot of you in his position forced to do things you didn't want
Camila y Carlos debieron casarse ella lo amaba y el más.
No lo permitian
It seems as if Camilla plays Charles, like a fiddle.
At times, most certainly…
How so?
@@loner1878 She flirts with him constantly, but let's him think he's the leader in the relationship by calling him 'Sir', every once in a while.
@@AngryBeaver60 People in love flirt. And I think "sir" is a term of endearment here.
Interesting POV. I saw true love between them
ok
'The Crown' should reflect reality. Let the Queen's life of service remind us of the huge, tangible power for peace and stability the British monarchy is for everyone in Britain, the commonwealth and for the world. In the 19th & 20th centuries the U.S.A, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Greece suffered in various ways civil wars, political storms, and dictatorships. This shows what can go wrong in the absence of a head of state which is above politics, which opposes illegal dictatorship and helps keep the peace. If there are many reasons England, Wales, Scotland, Canada and Australia have had no civil war since Culloden in 1746, having a constitutional monarchy is an important one. In the UK, 'peace' in formal speech is "The Queen's Peace".
Of course the Queen & Prince Philip had their failings as parents, and Prince Philip could be tactless. Whatever mistakes the royal family have made, let us be grateful for the service they give, and for the difference the monarchy makes for the better, in the world. There will always be violence in the world, and billions of people who know or understand nothing of the British monarchy. The value of the British crown since the 1700s is, many billions of people have lived under it without civil war, lynching, dictatorship in their lives.
Do you think the Indians would agree with your assessment ? Have you asked? Or do they not matter.
It is chilling how it is similar to that Oprah interview, and not in a good way. There is something so out of dignity to talk about someone who can not reply back, not publicly, and defend. And I am not even British, so not a monarchist. It just seems wrong.
Who are you talking about?
I think Charles will make a great job of king now as he's known his entire life that was his duty his job his "calling" so to speak! I'm not an anti royalist infact i admire all the royals and have much respect towards them bcoz they are a part of British culture and heritage as english tea the great sunday roast and the very tasty yummy full english which everyone who is born n bred in britain will know INSTANTLY wot a full english is!!! Long live our new king! Charles 3rd!
Does anyone else think he's an INFP?
based on PDB, yes he is
What do those terms mean? (Thank you :)
@@octoberfire13 INFP (introverted, intuitive, feeling, perception) is one of the personality types according to the Myers-Briggs indicator. You can
take a version of the test online and discover what it says about you. I think PDB is an online personality database.
Yes very much. I would say that he is a very sensitive and empathic person. Obviously highly introspective.
he was extremely emphatic with his wife indeed … Like seriously you will forget history because a nice looking actor cried nicely because he didn’t get what he wanted?
I would say what he has is narcissistic and egomaniacal disorder.
emerald fennell is too pretty to be camilla but i olved her in all scenes.
when camilla manages to be more beautiful than diana
Camilla leave Charles
Camila third party
She's jealous to Diana and her love
Nonsense, she had nothing to envy her. Charles never loved Diana and loved Camilla all his life. Besides, Diana is dead and Camilla has become queen. It was Diana who envied Camilla for having Charles's love that she never got.