It’s older than you want, but the Ford Smax with the 2.5ltr 5 cylinder that was also in the Focus ST is certainly an interesting MPV with a 140+mph top speed and 7s 0-60!
@@dadcars, we had one of the 2.5 - 5cylinder S-Max’s Fabulous car! Really surprised a lot of people 😂 handled really well too, also was available with a seven seat option. Had a steering rack issue and we traded it in, but I’d DEFINITELY get another one it was a hoot when not loaded with passengers 😉👍🏻
OMG, just finally got to catchup and watch this episode and your little assistant is soooooooo cute 🥹 I love the honesty, and what the important considerations are in her eyes!
I agree with you@@dadcars but there's a huge percentage of (mainly female) drivers in the UK who are religious about the advantages of driving "high up" - people are obsessed with this.
@markwood7045 so true. I just bought a 508 estate hybrid which took convincing but it's so good looking and practical. But Mrs is adamant she only ever wants a SUV like a GLC. I'm like Nooooooo! Not in a big city!
You're getting very comfortable "behind the camera" and your content is so genuine and sincere. Keep it up Ben, at times this must seem like a long slog but I believe you'll get there. I am sure all of your subscribers are rooting for you.
I've got what is perceived as a boring car. A 2017 gen 1 Volvo XC60 D5 auto...however I have tuned it to 275HP (RICA tune) and lowered it 45mm. It's a bit of a sleeper and surprises many, many people! It depends on whether you want to keep your car standard or are happy to modify.
Mercedes E Class estate with 7 seats (2 are rear facing). An E500 with a 5.5 litre V8 will probably be hard to find, but a 3 litre V6 petrol or V6 diesel shouldn't be too hard to find.
I understand that it might be the most boring choice of all times but I still love our seat alhambra. 185hp is plenty enough with the children and dogs in the back and it's the best thing for a family holiday.
I had a trip in a 66ish plate Audi all road and that was so comfortable and a lovely interior- guess that’s the same as the regular one, but the air suspension was amazing through the potholes. Possibly 4wd too. Awesome content, I really enjoy your banter. Currently going through the same decision but only two grown up kids so looking at x3’s (and Stelvios!)
I have a slightly tatty xlwb 8 seater Viano and it's perfect for what I need. The kids absolutely love it, especially on long journeys. I looked at a lot of MPVs but the Viano was the only one that could do conference seating (where the rear seats face each other) and the seats can be removed to use it like a van with 2 or 4/5 seats depending on what I'm doing. I reckon some nice wheels and a body kit (like mine) makes it quite sexy.
I know the words “cool” and “MPV” aren’t meant to be used in the same sentence but here’s a suggestion: a JDM import Toyota Alphard. These things are rare in the UK, incredibly spacious and comfortable to be in, and because it’s a Toyota, it will be as long lasting as Edinburgh castle.
I was looking at the Superb tsi 280 4x4 but couldnt afford it so went with a Mondeo titanium X Sport 2.2. Lovely dad wagon for me, the mrs and 2 girls.
S6 Avant is so much cooler than any SUV. That’s a great idea! Also agree on the MPV thing, was trying to convince my mum and wife to get a Citroen c3 Picasso, it’s too small for you, but seemed so perfect for a granny and for carting a few small kids and their stuff about. Neither of them agreed though!
New Full Size MPVs don't exist anymore outside of Van derived ones. Sharan, Alhambra, Galaxy, Espace - no longer made. Last one standing is S-Max. Rest of available ones are Vans with seats
I’d definitely recommend the Stelvio. We had one for a couple of years (vesuvio grey with red leather veloce) and absolutely loved it, never had any issues with it. I’m an Alfa fan so probably biased but we have a glc currently and much prefer the stelvio. You don’t see many of them which I like. Love the videos!
I've been thinking along the same lines as you, with the two Italian SUV's I think you'd be disappointed with the space in the back. I had a Citroen C4 Grand Picaso for a while - bit quirky bur easily fits 6 adults, Citroen All Space another option and the Peugeot equivalent. Audi A6 All Road another option - I've been trying to find a nice one but tend to be expensive. Good space in the back I think Honda CRV (wide opening doors) or Volvo XC60, I can't remember if you've already had a Q7 but that along with the XC90 probably a bit too big. Looking forward to see what you end up with 👍 (sorry for the late response).
Nice one once again Ben. MPVs are not as common but you can still get them. For £15k or less you could get: Merc B class, BMW 2 series active tourer, Citroen Berlingo, Ford S-Max & Galaxy (apparently they still sell those new!), VW Touran, and..... a BRAND NEW Dacia Jogger! haha
As parents to 4 kids ourselves, we've had many different 6 and 7 seater cars. These days we are enjoying the second gen Q7, fantastic drivers car and still has ample room, but before that we had 2 R350 CDIs. We still hold a candle for our R Classes, fantastic cars, even more room than the Q7 and great engines too, only reason we switched was because the interior (dash, mainly) was getting a bit long in the tooth and we wanted some more modern features. Keen to see where you end up with this search 😎
Love the channel, been watching your videos as a massive petrol head and having the opportunity to spend some money in the near future on a silly Dad car following some boring diesels I need some ideas! Keep up the good work!
Got into a new Toyota sienna in america, absolutely incredible inside for a family and can't understand why you can't get them in the UK. We're missing out
Love your work fella. Just waved goodbye to a Maserati Ghibli which after a debris bump with the undercarriage was an instant eco write off. Outside of that it was a great DADCAR.
I was always into estates, but sold my 2020 BMW 330d M Sport Touring, for a 2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio 2.2 diesel. Brilliant car, and handles almost as well as my BMW. Go for the Stelvio!
With you on the death of the MPV… I was in the same space as you… was looking for a fast MPV. Ended up with a super rare VW Sharan 2.0 TSI DSG 200bhp.. only one of 15 made in 2012!
How far do you drive in one go? If the family car is just used to potter around the city, go for a Jaguar iPace (but make sure you buy a warranty) and put the savings towards another Maserati!
Recently changed my dad car two weeks ago and had the epiphany of what is the point in buying a performance car to run my kids around in, or at all. I'm in my early 40's and no longer driving like a teenager. The good roads are all full of traffic and the quiet roads are full of potholes and ruts or mobile speed traps. I'm now a bit bored of refurbing or replacing pothole damaged wheels especially when you can't see the potholes if it's dark and raining. I've always loved cars but got to that tipping point where I don't see the need to have anything that is capable of more than the speed limit so I bought a VW Passat Estate and went for the 1.6TDI Bluemotion on a 2014 plate. It only has 105BHP and is possibly the least powerful car I have ever owned but for the sort of driving I do on mostly crappy roads it's been totally adequate. And it's averaging about 60MPG which is far better than anything I've previously had. We also have a Volvo XC60 D5 AWD as my wife's car which has been great!
I feel a build coming on Ben, something like a 2.0 TSI Tiguan. Or Skoda Superb, 4x4 and propper rapid with the same underpinnings as a golf r / S3. Plus you would have some change for performance mods....
how about a Chrysler grand voyager ? - my family has had one of those for 10 years now and its perfect for both short and long trips with tv screens, sliding doors and a MASSIVE boot !
I have a Jaguar F-Pace. I wanted a Stelvio but the F Pace is better equiped. Pan roof, heated steering, virtual dash with heads up display. The boot is pretty big as well
Great shout - I had one a couple of years ago - with the 180PS engine; couldn’t help myself from singing the theme tune every time I drove it; bonus is the seats in the back can swap to do conference seating
I'd get a discovery 4 if i was in your situation. I know everyone will say they're unreliable but that just hasn't been my experience with mine. I've put around 190,000 miles on my late 2015 face lift HSE LUX. Obviously because it's done so many miles things have started to go wrong but it has never left me stranded on the side of the road. I would honestly consider one if i were you, try and get a facelift with the 8 speed ZF. Also, the HSE LUX spec I've got has tellies in the headrests so your kids would love that and they are hovering around the 15k mark.
its a problem that never ends, I have a 911 C4S that I love but as a family we are steadily out growing it with daughters aged 13 and 9, it's just getting too cramped in the back. I'm not a fan of SUVs or any other Porsche model than the 911, so I'm having to think wider, but don't want to loose my shirt on something!
Probably a little to old but we used to have a Honda FRV. Like the Fiat has 3seats across but the middle two seats slide back giving more shoulder room. Seats 6 comfortably. 150bhp Diesel, so enough torquey power and it just never went wrong. We did 80,000 to 140,000 miles without a problem and the kids loved it.
The best thing for your wife might be the MPV option, specially if it’s going to last another 5 years and the girls are going to get taller. I don’t see the 4 of them in the back of a stelvio fitted comfortably. I also think Volvo state or SUVs might be an option.
Hi bud I have a 13 plate cayenne after having the X5 and it is a great car we love it , looked @ merc ml which had rusty arches @£18k😮 Every cars a lottery good luck with it 👍
Not the Cayenna, fast and cool but enormous running costs. MPV - just no. The S6 would be a lovely car and quick but possibly not big enough for a family of 6. Think the Stelvio out of that lot would be a good choice.
Maybe a touch on the old side, but what about a vr6 vw mpv with 4 wheel drive. It’s modern enough that it’s safe, and is a middle ground between mpv and golf r
Sport MPV? , I like my 2021 Mercedes AMG B class 220D . Bit more than your price range though. Does 7 secs to 60 and has one of the best looking dashes around. Had two suv before a VW Tiguan and Ford Kuga. Pointless in the city, best thing I ever did was get the B class. it’s fairly compact, decent boot space, easy to drive with loads of safety tech. Recommended. Only negative engines are a little be noisy.
A6 estate would make much more sense than an another suv otherwise keep the x5. Actually the Mercedes is a really good option especially since it's cheaper than a transporter
We are damily of 5 and have had a viano for years. Incredible family wagon, sliding doors are a game changer!. Just bought a used stelvio quadrifoglio, OMG what a car! My 3 boys call it the Beast! 😂
I am also looking at a stelvio currently, but they seem kind of tiny interior wise & don't see how i could fit an isofix base seat and all the travel stuff for my daughter. I have only 1 daughter and it seems too small, for your 4 😮😅 That Georgio platform is crazy nice and the interiors of alfa's are amazingly designed, also heard a lot of good things in terms of reliability (especially compared to Audi & BMW who seem to have taken Alfa's place as an unreliable car😅), but my Volvo V60 has just a tiny bit more boot space than the Stelvio and I fill it up to the brim already.
@dadcars yup, unfortunately can confirm. Also reliability is horrible. Bought it because of the safety rep before my daughter was born in a moment of overwhelming concern about how safe the first ride home is going to be, but I kind of forgot about every ride before and after that, that are dull and uninspiring
Asking your children to pick your car is risky. My Dad was a huge Land Rover fan and convinced my Mum to try a Series IIII. We all loved it and pleaded to buy it. It was the coolest car ever. But it wasn't even synchromesh and drove like a truck and she wasn't having it at all. A bit left-field, but Chrysler minivans like the Pacifica and Voyager are great for families. They're not the most reliable, but neither are Mercedes. I think a recent PM even owned one of these. An E-Class estate would also be a decent choice, although the running costs might be prohibitive. PS Your daughter is adorable, as always.
Two family cars both under 15k for me is jaguar xe for me (definitely the petrol, the diesel Ingenium is a nightmare) and a Mazda cx5 for the misses and the little girl being born in august. Audi Q5 are very cool but for the budget Mazda wins as you’re going to get something much less mileage on it. Range Rover discovery sport can also get for 15k but that same pesky diesel Ingenium engine not worth the headache unfortunately.
It's not cool at all, but what about the Prius Plus? Seven seats, tax free, high mpg, reliable etc. It's something I'm thinking about getting for my family soon.
Hard choice. I would personally go for a safe choice if it was a budget concern. CX-5 or something. Once I was close to buying a mk2 manual cayenne. But I thought it was irrational. Still think about it sometimes. Big mistake. Buy something fun.
Ben, what do you think about VW Sharan or Seat Alhambra? I am currently looking for a car for our family with 3 children. I love the look of Cayenne, but I am affraid it would still be small and the running cost would be too high even with a base model.
Hi first time I come accross your video so I dont know if you go to like my option of a Dacia Jogger 1.0 Tce. Dacia is up and coming cheap to buy from new and cheap to run. Good room inside compare to other 7 seater.
What about the Toyota Alphard, like a limo inside and something different to make content with. Your family would love it and being a Toyota it’ll be dependable
Yeah the new X3 is larger than the first X5.... if you live in the city it is all very excessive.. which is fine if you accept that but just love it :)
Instead of that Merc, go for a VW transporter. More bang for your buck and maintenance is much cheaper. Had one use that until the last out of 5 kids went to uni. It's still driving, 15 years later.
We’ve just purchased a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso with the less common 1.2 turbo petrol engine. Budget was 8k and needed 3 proper isofix for twins incoming and already having a toddler. We looked at a few S-Max but most had the old diesel lumps in them and actually had pretty heavy running costs. The Citroen is £35 a year on tax and seems to genuinely return over 40mpg day to day. The petrol engine is surprisingly punchy considering the spec (130bhp and 170 Ib ft). Also looks good for an MPV and has a funky interior. Good video Ben!
@@Pugilist928 Not the older PSA units. The 1.4 16v KFU and the 2.2 16v I've owned in the past were first class units. But then I stopped buying anything made after 2010 (2003 for BMW products) because you can't work on them and they are made of chocolate. 15k for a used car? 5k buys you a very nice Volvo estate, you don't want these poncy modern SUVs, they are garbage.
I think the Toyota is the out of the norm option, plus I’m sure you could get a few interesting videos on it. Not many around and not many people have heard of it
Viano is a great car - had one and got rid of it for a VW transporter shuttle - still regret it, but you cant get a Viano thats ULEZ compliant, you would need to get a V class and they are £££££££
We have a 2017 LR Discovery sport having come from 2012 Q7. But rarely need +5 seats now the older two are late teens. Don't do the Cayenne there all over YT at the moment. I guess it's a matter of how long you intend to keep it and if the maxi seat will last with the kids growing in that time, estate cars would be great as they have lost market to SUVs but really they are big enough for those who have gone to the world of the SUV.
In terms of things you missed if you’re wanting to try and be a bit different not buying a bmw Audi or Mercedes take a look at Jaguar and Volvo for both SUVs and estates
I used to sell cars, in the US, and I never understood why moms wanted giant Suburbans and Expeditions to haul their kids. They have no boat/racecar to tow; they feel like those are the ultimate mom vehicles. When really they're subpar at that. Minivans are 1000% better at being people haulers. They ride good, they're quiet, plenty of room, comfy seats. I'm only 27 and I'm already an old soul who would buy a van in a heartbeat
Hi Ben if I was under 10 years old I would want the Mercedes people carrier ,that makes the most sense to me . Or you could get the transporter that costs the same as a ferrari 🤟❤️
Newest Giulietta 1.75 TBI all day long, loads of space inside and out and a little Italian pocket rocket. Having seen the Stelvio vid I’d understand the pull for that but 30 -40k is a lot of cash. Second edit, don’t realise it’s to replace x5 ✌🏻
It’s older than you want, but the Ford Smax with the 2.5ltr 5 cylinder that was also in the Focus ST is certainly an interesting MPV with a 140+mph top speed and 7s 0-60!
Please someone with one of these bring it to me to review!!! id love to film one
@@dadcars, we had one of the 2.5 - 5cylinder S-Max’s
Fabulous car! Really surprised a lot of people 😂 handled really well too, also was available with a seven seat option. Had a steering rack issue and we traded it in, but I’d DEFINITELY get another one it was a hoot when not loaded with passengers 😉👍🏻
Mk1 s-max with the 2.5 is a great shout- very cool budget sporty mpv
A friend of mine has one. I think they are great.
@UPnDOWN ? I'm sure you could have a shot in the Maserati in exchange?
OMG, just finally got to catchup and watch this episode and your little assistant is soooooooo cute 🥹 I love the honesty, and what the important considerations are in her eyes!
Thanks man 🙌🙌🥰 yeah she’s awesome 🥹
I knew immediately she’d want the Mercedes when you showed her the interior- that’s every kid’s dream for their parents to have one of them!
Yeah it’s makes a lot of sense!! Not sure why they’re not the go to for parents over SUVs
I agree with you@@dadcars but there's a huge percentage of (mainly female) drivers in the UK who are religious about the advantages of driving "high up" - people are obsessed with this.
@markwood7045 so true. I just bought a 508 estate hybrid which took convincing but it's so good looking and practical. But Mrs is adamant she only ever wants a SUV like a GLC. I'm like Nooooooo! Not in a big city!
You're getting very comfortable "behind the camera" and your content is so genuine and sincere. Keep it up Ben, at times this must seem like a long slog but I believe you'll get there. I am sure all of your subscribers are rooting for you.
Thanks man 🙌🥹
I've got what is perceived as a boring car. A 2017 gen 1 Volvo XC60 D5 auto...however I have tuned it to 275HP (RICA tune) and lowered it 45mm. It's a bit of a sleeper and surprises many, many people! It depends on whether you want to keep your car standard or are happy to modify.
Mercedes E Class estate with 7 seats (2 are rear facing). An E500 with a 5.5 litre V8 will probably be hard to find, but a 3 litre V6 petrol or V6 diesel shouldn't be too hard to find.
I understand that it might be the most boring choice of all times but I still love our seat alhambra. 185hp is plenty enough with the children and dogs in the back and it's the best thing for a family holiday.
Take a chance on a one owner Cayenne is my two cents. Your interacting with your daughter was adorable 😊
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I had a trip in a 66ish plate Audi all road and that was so comfortable and a lovely interior- guess that’s the same as the regular one, but the air suspension was amazing through the potholes. Possibly 4wd too. Awesome content, I really enjoy your banter. Currently going through the same decision but only two grown up kids so looking at x3’s (and Stelvios!)
I have a slightly tatty xlwb 8 seater Viano and it's perfect for what I need. The kids absolutely love it, especially on long journeys. I looked at a lot of MPVs but the Viano was the only one that could do conference seating (where the rear seats face each other) and the seats can be removed to use it like a van with 2 or 4/5 seats depending on what I'm doing. I reckon some nice wheels and a body kit (like mine) makes it quite sexy.
That’s what my daughter wanted! 😅 my Vito has amg wheels 😂
I know the words “cool” and “MPV” aren’t meant to be used in the same sentence but here’s a suggestion: a JDM import Toyota Alphard. These things are rare in the UK, incredibly spacious and comfortable to be in, and because it’s a Toyota, it will be as long lasting as Edinburgh castle.
Great shout
Alphard I’m all in but.. wife may not be 😅
@dadcars my mum has one I think it's something like a 2.4 petrol automatic. 8 seater.
I just said basically the same thing, great minds ete!
Thanks!
Wow thank you Frank! I’ll put this towards fixing the dents 😅
I was looking at the Superb tsi 280 4x4 but couldnt afford it so went with a Mondeo titanium X Sport 2.2. Lovely dad wagon for me, the mrs and 2 girls.
S6 Avant is so much cooler than any SUV. That’s a great idea!
Also agree on the MPV thing, was trying to convince my mum and wife to get a Citroen c3 Picasso, it’s too small for you, but seemed so perfect for a granny and for carting a few small kids and their stuff about. Neither of them agreed though!
I could never drive a Picasso 🙈🙈🙈 it just feels all kinds of wrong
New Full Size MPVs don't exist anymore outside of Van derived ones. Sharan, Alhambra, Galaxy, Espace - no longer made. Last one standing is S-Max. Rest of available ones are Vans with seats
Everyone is buying the less practical and more expensive SUV alternatives 🥲
I’d definitely recommend the Stelvio. We had one for a couple of years (vesuvio grey with red leather veloce) and absolutely loved it, never had any issues with it. I’m an Alfa fan so probably biased but we have a glc currently and much prefer the stelvio. You don’t see many of them which I like. Love the videos!
Awesome! Just need a good one to buy 🤙
The viano was also my dream growing up. I think that would be the most memorable for your children!
I've been thinking along the same lines as you, with the two Italian SUV's I think you'd be disappointed with the space in the back. I had a Citroen C4 Grand Picaso for a while - bit quirky bur easily fits 6 adults, Citroen All Space another option and the Peugeot equivalent. Audi A6 All Road another option - I've been trying to find a nice one but tend to be expensive. Good space in the back I think Honda CRV (wide opening doors) or Volvo XC60, I can't remember if you've already had a Q7 but that along with the XC90 probably a bit too big. Looking forward to see what you end up with 👍 (sorry for the late response).
Nice one once again Ben. MPVs are not as common but you can still get them. For £15k or less you could get: Merc B class, BMW 2 series active tourer, Citroen Berlingo, Ford S-Max & Galaxy (apparently they still sell those new!), VW Touran, and..... a BRAND NEW Dacia Jogger! haha
Two series grab tourer is a car I’d love to review
As parents to 4 kids ourselves, we've had many different 6 and 7 seater cars.
These days we are enjoying the second gen Q7, fantastic drivers car and still has ample room, but before that we had 2 R350 CDIs.
We still hold a candle for our R Classes, fantastic cars, even more room than the Q7 and great engines too, only reason we switched was because the interior (dash, mainly) was getting a bit long in the tooth and we wanted some more modern features.
Keen to see where you end up with this search 😎
Love the channel, been watching your videos as a massive petrol head and having the opportunity to spend some money in the near future on a silly Dad car following some boring diesels I need some ideas!
Keep up the good work!
Awesome you’ve found the right channel! 🙌😅
Got into a new Toyota sienna in america, absolutely incredible inside for a family and can't understand why you can't get them in the UK. We're missing out
Love your work fella. Just waved goodbye to a Maserati Ghibli which after a debris bump with the undercarriage was an instant eco write off. Outside of that it was a great DADCAR.
great value cars the Ghibli now
I was always into estates, but sold my 2020 BMW 330d M Sport Touring, for a 2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio 2.2 diesel. Brilliant car, and handles almost as well as my BMW.
Go for the Stelvio!
Want to PX it with me for the X5?! Get back to BMW! 😅
@@dadcars 😂
2019 Skoda Superb 2.0 TSI SE L DSG 4WD Estate 268BHP 109k miles on autotrader for £13k
Boring and actually a bit rubbish!
Superb is money trap…
With you on the death of the MPV… I was in the same space as you… was looking for a fast MPV. Ended up with a super rare VW Sharan 2.0 TSI DSG 200bhp.. only one of 15 made in 2012!
Nice! Such a shame isn’t it!
How far do you drive in one go? If the family car is just used to potter around the city, go for a Jaguar iPace (but make sure you buy a warranty) and put the savings towards another Maserati!
95% of the time it’s used for pottering around town but we do longer family trips a few times a year
@@dadcars that’s what’s stopping me from getting one, as we travel from Bucks to Cornwall twice a year and it would be our only car
So cheap though. Circa £220p/m to finance with a £5k deposit, I don’t think you can go faster for less money!
Recently changed my dad car two weeks ago and had the epiphany of what is the point in buying a performance car to run my kids around in, or at all. I'm in my early 40's and no longer driving like a teenager. The good roads are all full of traffic and the quiet roads are full of potholes and ruts or mobile speed traps. I'm now a bit bored of refurbing or replacing pothole damaged wheels especially when you can't see the potholes if it's dark and raining. I've always loved cars but got to that tipping point where I don't see the need to have anything that is capable of more than the speed limit so I bought a VW Passat Estate and went for the 1.6TDI Bluemotion on a 2014 plate. It only has 105BHP and is possibly the least powerful car I have ever owned but for the sort of driving I do on mostly crappy roads it's been totally adequate. And it's averaging about 60MPG which is far better than anything I've previously had. We also have a Volvo XC60 D5 AWD as my wife's car which has been great!
I feel a build coming on Ben, something like a 2.0 TSI Tiguan. Or Skoda Superb, 4x4 and propper rapid with the same underpinnings as a golf r / S3. Plus you would have some change for performance mods....
Maybe a build is the only way I’ll find the cool 6 seater with an amazing engine 🤔
how about a Chrysler grand voyager ? - my family has had one of those for 10 years now and its perfect for both short and long trips with tv screens, sliding doors and a MASSIVE boot !
Fantastic shout! Someone I know recently sold one and was just slightly off timing wise!
oh no - I never realised how cheap they were on auto trader until checking now, so definitely a great deal. @@dadcars
Got to be the Stelvio!!! No contest whatsoever. Cayenne -ruinous, Audi - Boring, Merc Van - No way
audi boring audi's are NOT boring
Lol, yeah it seems the perfect fit all round really. Just need one in an interesting spec!
@@dadcars I didn't used to like red cars, but the Stelvio looks great in red, so I bought one ;)
@@Marcus-cf6xcYep, they are
I have a Jaguar F-Pace. I wanted a Stelvio but the F Pace is better equiped. Pan roof, heated steering, virtual dash with heads up display. The boot is pretty big as well
F pace is a good looking suv
@@dadcars i know you dont like SUV's. Same as me, i'd rather have kept my previous C Class estate. Maybe you should review a F Pace on your channel
It has to be a van like the A team. Black with red diagonal stripe. What about a Ford transit custom?
Great shout - I had one a couple of years ago - with the 180PS engine; couldn’t help myself from singing the theme tune every time I drove it; bonus is the seats in the back can swap to do conference seating
A random option could be the Dacia Jogger 7 seat MPV. Super practical!!
I'd get a discovery 4 if i was in your situation. I know everyone will say they're unreliable but that just hasn't been my experience with mine. I've put around 190,000 miles on my late 2015 face lift HSE LUX. Obviously because it's done so many miles things have started to go wrong but it has never left me stranded on the side of the road. I would honestly consider one if i were you, try and get a facelift with the 8 speed ZF. Also, the HSE LUX spec I've got has tellies in the headrests so your kids would love that and they are hovering around the 15k mark.
its a problem that never ends, I have a 911 C4S that I love but as a family we are steadily out growing it with daughters aged 13 and 9, it's just getting too cramped in the back. I'm not a fan of SUVs or any other Porsche model than the 911, so I'm having to think wider, but don't want to loose my shirt on something!
At least you had it with them while you could make it work :) made some wonderful memories
If you like performance but need practicality I have just picked up an alfa stelvio quadrifoglio and it fits that bill incredibly! 😊
Probably a little to old but we used to have a Honda FRV. Like the Fiat has 3seats across but the middle two seats slide back giving more shoulder room. Seats 6 comfortably. 150bhp Diesel, so enough torquey power and it just never went wrong. We did 80,000 to 140,000 miles without a problem and the kids loved it.
Did it have that 2.2 diesel that was in the civic, accord, crv, did I miss any others. He'll of an engine.
Great video- all it’s missing is a really cool intro animation!
😜…. Making its debut next week 🤯
The best thing for your wife might be the MPV option, specially if it’s going to last another 5 years and the girls are going to get taller. I don’t see the 4 of them in the back of a stelvio fitted comfortably. I also think Volvo state or SUVs might be an option.
Multimac should fit in a Stelvio sized suv! Plan is to change now every 6 months 🤷♂️
Rocking the 640d Gran Coupe (F06) at the moment. £15k direct from a main dealer with used approved warranty.
Hi bud I have a 13 plate cayenne after having the X5 and it is a great car we love it , looked @ merc ml which had rusty arches @£18k😮
Every cars a lottery good luck with it 👍
I’ve already got a rusty Merc… don’t want another 🙈
Chrysler 300c estate with a 6.1 Hemi V8 for£15k. Or you could get a 3.0 diesel for £3k.
I would LOVE to review one of those!!!! please someone email me :)
6 Litre V8 😂 He doesn't live in Texas!
@@andrewwaller5913 His last car was a 6 litre V12 Aston Martin.
Why are you selling the X5 to replace with something similar and similar value?
Not the Cayenna, fast and cool but enormous running costs.
MPV - just no.
The S6 would be a lovely car and quick but possibly not big enough for a family of 6. Think the Stelvio out of that lot would be a good choice.
I think the Stelvio would be my wife’s pick if the seat fits
Maybe a touch on the old side, but what about a vr6 vw mpv with 4 wheel drive. It’s modern enough that it’s safe, and is a middle ground between mpv and golf r
Zafira OPC/VXR in black so you don't see it's quite fast.
Leaves 10K left over for making it faster or just filling it up with petrol.
My Family wagon is a 6 seater Honda FR-V it cost me £1000 and other than tyres and front breaks/discs its had no major issues. its beautiful
Sport MPV? , I like my 2021 Mercedes AMG B class 220D . Bit more than your price range though. Does 7 secs to 60 and has one of the best looking dashes around. Had two suv before a VW Tiguan and Ford Kuga. Pointless in the city, best thing I ever did was get the B class. it’s fairly compact, decent boot space, easy to drive with loads of safety tech. Recommended. Only negative engines are a little be noisy.
No MPV is cool really IMO. If you need 7 seats I'd be looking at XC90 or X5 likely still
What about Toyota Vellfire V6? I want to buy car for my family but dont know which car will be better
Yep great shout I’d love to try one
A6 estate would make much more sense than an another suv otherwise keep the x5. Actually the Mercedes is a really good option especially since it's cheaper than a transporter
How does a Q5 Actually compare with an A6.
Audi S6 avant if you can find one with the super sport seats! Or what about a Passat R36 which is a few years older but quick and sound great!!
Can you get Arteon diesels at this price point? Wide, refined, beautiful interior, refined chassis. Even parks itself!
We are damily of 5 and have had a viano for years. Incredible family wagon, sliding doors are a game changer!. Just bought a used stelvio quadrifoglio, OMG what a car! My 3 boys call it the Beast! 😂
I am also looking at a stelvio currently, but they seem kind of tiny interior wise & don't see how i could fit an isofix base seat and all the travel stuff for my daughter. I have only 1 daughter and it seems too small, for your 4 😮😅
That Georgio platform is crazy nice and the interiors of alfa's are amazingly designed, also heard a lot of good things in terms of reliability (especially compared to Audi & BMW who seem to have taken Alfa's place as an unreliable car😅), but my Volvo V60 has just a tiny bit more boot space than the Stelvio and I fill it up to the brim already.
Meh modern Volvo don’t inspire me at all.. they’ve lost their way imo
@dadcars yup, unfortunately can confirm. Also reliability is horrible. Bought it because of the safety rep before my daughter was born in a moment of overwhelming concern about how safe the first ride home is going to be, but I kind of forgot about every ride before and after that, that are dull and uninspiring
US edition would be perfect Ben. Get in touch with Matt Armstrong sure he would guide you in the right direction!!!!
He’s far too busy for little ol me I’m sure 🙈😅
Asking your children to pick your car is risky. My Dad was a huge Land Rover fan and convinced my Mum to try a Series IIII. We all loved it and pleaded to buy it. It was the coolest car ever. But it wasn't even synchromesh and drove like a truck and she wasn't having it at all.
A bit left-field, but Chrysler minivans like the Pacifica and Voyager are great for families. They're not the most reliable, but neither are Mercedes. I think a recent PM even owned one of these. An E-Class estate would also be a decent choice, although the running costs might be prohibitive.
PS Your daughter is adorable, as always.
Have a look at the JDM import MPVs like the Alphards and Elgrands etc
I’d love one! 🙌
My kids only understand mpg and maintenance when I put it in terms of birthday presents.
😂😂😂
Mercedes GL class around the 15k mark are higher mileage but really good value for money right now when it comes to its depreciation over the years
Two family cars both under 15k for me is jaguar xe for me (definitely the petrol, the diesel Ingenium is a nightmare) and a Mazda cx5 for the misses and the little girl being born in august. Audi Q5 are very cool but for the budget Mazda wins as you’re going to get something much less mileage on it. Range Rover discovery sport can also get for 15k but that same pesky diesel Ingenium engine not worth the headache unfortunately.
Only cool looking mpv is the s max you can get 200bhp diesels or the focus st engine so at least it will sound good
Personally I’d go E-Class Estate but if it had to be an SUV, Skoda Kodiaq.
It's not cool at all, but what about the Prius Plus? Seven seats, tax free, high mpg, reliable etc. It's something I'm thinking about getting for my family soon.
If you get one bring it to me to review lol :)
Hard choice. I would personally go for a safe choice if it was a budget concern. CX-5 or something.
Once I was close to buying a mk2 manual cayenne. But I thought it was irrational. Still think about it sometimes. Big mistake. Buy something fun.
Ben, what do you think about VW Sharan or Seat Alhambra?
I am currently looking for a car for our family with 3 children. I love the look of Cayenne, but I am affraid it would still be small and the running cost would be too high even with a base model.
Matt at Carwow bought an old Porsche Cayenne Turbo earlier. Even cars with high mileage are still fairly reliable without big problem.
I don’t have a Matt watson budget though 😅
Hi first time I come accross your video so I dont know if you go to like my option of a Dacia Jogger 1.0 Tce. Dacia is up and coming cheap to buy from new and cheap to run. Good room inside compare to other 7 seater.
Your relationship with your kids is so cute , they're gonna grow up to be proper petrol heads. Best of luck with buying their first cars in future 😬😂
They’re fab 🥰
Genuinely love this channel.
Although I know full well, that little girl didn't get any of those cars 😂
Cayenne’s are great fun, but choose wisely (unlike me!). 957 turbos are a totally sensible family car imo.
Yeah I’d need one that had recently had a lot spent on it! 😅🙌
@@dadcars that’s a good plan 😁
Toyota Vellfire would be a good choice. Or an E51 Nissan Elgrand, bit older than you want but bigger and more practical than the newer Elgrands.
Is this generation of X5 worth looking at for around £15000. I’m after an SUV, was looking at an L322 Range Rover but have doubts
What about an import? Similar to the viano, Nissan elgrand?
yeah I am open to it, you don't always get the best value for money with imports though.
I bought a BMW X1 20D 190hp auto 2016 great car. Tad bit small. Maybe an X3?
What about the Toyota Alphard, like a limo inside and something different to make content with. Your family would love it and being a Toyota it’ll be dependable
Audi S6 - massively tunable ;) Also look at the 2nd Gen X3 - check out the width: wider than the 1st gen x5!
Yeah the new X3 is larger than the first X5.... if you live in the city it is all very excessive.. which is fine if you accept that but just love it :)
Instead of that Merc, go for a VW transporter. More bang for your buck and maintenance is much cheaper. Had one use that until the last out of 5 kids went to uni. It's still driving, 15 years later.
We’ve just purchased a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso with the less common 1.2 turbo petrol engine. Budget was 8k and needed 3 proper isofix for twins incoming and already having a toddler. We looked at a few S-Max but most had the old diesel lumps in them and actually had pretty heavy running costs. The Citroen is £35 a year on tax and seems to genuinely return over 40mpg day to day. The petrol engine is surprisingly punchy considering the spec (130bhp and 170 Ib ft). Also looks good for an MPV and has a funky interior. Good video Ben!
The citroen petrol engines are terrible.
@@Pugilist928 Not the older PSA units. The 1.4 16v KFU and the 2.2 16v I've owned in the past were first class units. But then I stopped buying anything made after 2010 (2003 for BMW products) because you can't work on them and they are made of chocolate.
15k for a used car? 5k buys you a very nice Volvo estate, you don't want these poncy modern SUVs, they are garbage.
I think the Toyota is the out of the norm option, plus I’m sure you could get a few interesting videos on it. Not many around and not many people have heard of it
Viano is a great car - had one and got rid of it for a VW transporter shuttle - still regret it, but you cant get a Viano thats ULEZ compliant, you would need to get a V class and they are £££££££
What about a jaguar F pace? Are they in budget?
I really like the design of the F pace (for an suv) if a good one came up at a good price I’d be game :)
Have a look at the Toyota Estima, they have loads of space, looks really stealthy in black
We have a 2017 LR Discovery sport having come from 2012 Q7. But rarely need +5 seats now the older two are late teens. Don't do the Cayenne there all over YT at the moment. I guess it's a matter of how long you intend to keep it and if the maxi seat will last with the kids growing in that time, estate cars would be great as they have lost market to SUVs but really they are big enough for those who have gone to the world of the SUV.
In terms of things you missed if you’re wanting to try and be a bit different not buying a bmw Audi or Mercedes take a look at Jaguar and Volvo for both SUVs and estates
I’d say a VW Touran R Line, nice looks, running costs are low, and reliable!
Lexus RX450h. Great MPG for a big heavy car and performance is a quite good too. A bit boring perhaps but then again you've got the Maserati.
Cvt gearbag though...
I used to sell cars, in the US, and I never understood why moms wanted giant Suburbans and Expeditions to haul their kids. They have no boat/racecar to tow; they feel like those are the ultimate mom vehicles. When really they're subpar at that. Minivans are 1000% better at being people haulers. They ride good, they're quiet, plenty of room, comfy seats. I'm only 27 and I'm already an old soul who would buy a van in a heartbeat
Something a bit different, have you thought about a ford edge?
Why are used cars so cheap in UK?!?!
When your working with pounds before thinking it’s cheap double it and that’s the price
1GBP ist currently around 1,17€. At least in germany used cars are much more expensive.@@RICHYSUNCLE
@@RICHYSUNCLE why double? I live in Italy, cars of the same age are much more expensive
@@alexanderstephenevi733 pounds are double other countries
@@RICHYSUNCLE uh no. google pond to euro
Left field choice Infiniti QX70, chassis is from a 370z I believe, they also do a V8 😮
Absolutely tiny. Minuscule boot. No good for Ben. Great cars though.
Actually just thought of a Nissan elegrande but not sure the will like it. I've driven the 3.5 v6 version sounded awesome
Toyota Vellfire V6 for a cool MPV. Shame you can only buy imports though
I suggest Audi A6 Estate or Ford Mondeo Estate.
If you get a diesel Levante and only do low city miles, it won’t be a happy experience.
Hi Ben if I was under 10 years old I would want the Mercedes people carrier ,that makes the most sense to me . Or you could get the transporter that costs the same as a ferrari 🤟❤️
Honda FRV. 6 seats like the multipla. Cheap as chips and reliable. Skoda vrs estate, brilliant cars.
Newest Giulietta 1.75 TBI all day long, loads of space inside and out and a little Italian pocket rocket.
Having seen the Stelvio vid I’d understand the pull for that but 30 -40k is a lot of cash. Second edit, don’t realise it’s to replace x5 ✌🏻
Vw... T5 sport line nice one with kit an alloys go camping with the family etc
Now your talking with the stelvio and better still your daughter also loves the alfa.