Three things I especially like about this: (1) talks about which wrist movement to use and which one NOT to use; (2) talks about WHEN in the stroke to do it (not as late as some people think); (3) notes that sometimes you won't use it at all - you'll just push through the stroke. Wonderful!
I think it's important to highlight what you pointed out here. That the way to achieve this wrist rotation is not by using wrist muscles and originating the rotation there. My interpretation of this idea that all the energy being released through uncoiling your body and letting the arm follow, is allowing that forearm and wrist to rotate and maybe helping it along to accelerate it. A lot of club level players I see tend to originate the power of the rotation with the tiny wrist muscles. That would hurt.
Hi Coach, Whatever you are trying to say here, it is not visible in your shot that starts at 4:30 . When you look at it frame by frame, it‘s clear your wrist is stable and the wrist turn happens well after the ball has cleared the raquet. For my personally, an ingrained habit of overusing that wrist movement was really disrupting my forehand. Once I fixed this I saw great improvement.
Each tennis player/coach will have different feelings as they hit their forehands. But this is my thought process and what I am feeling as I'm hitting forehands. Understanding how much to let the wrist go depending on the difficulty of the shot is key.
One key element I focus on, is how the "pull" is rotational, around the body (sync'ed to the body rotation and weigh transfer into the court/incoming ball), going from low to high. I.e. a "spiraling" pull, and not a linear back-to-front, or across-the-chest type of pull. The less you move your body correctly, the more difficult this is to execute and understand. This is very hard to do correctly if you're standing still f.inst. But if you execute this "spiraling" pull correctly, you will create a lag in the racket, that makes the racket naturally from below the wrist to above the wrist (aka windshield wiper motion) without needing to activate the wrist much, as a natural consequence of momentum. This can easily be tested swinging an axe as a tennis racket. If you try to use the upper arm muscles too actively, you'll be asking for TE :-) Using the bigger muscles to start the acceleration, and end up with the upper arm muscles through the proper sequencing. Then try a normal racket, which will feel like a badminton racket :-)
I think that many club players do not use the forearm/wrist as much and thus the racket does not release as you say and for the most part, it's fine for most people. I agree that despite what many pundits say, you do need to pronate to generate racket head speed but I would also say try to finish with the wrist in flexion position. Ie, the wrist goes from extend and ulnarly deviated to slightly flexed and radially deviated position. Just my 2 cents.
I've played tennis for 35 years and what you're saying is definitely spot on. Natural power comes from loosening the arm and wrist etc not firming it up.
Great video and explanation, I tried this and instead of even turning the wrist I thought of “rotate around my right elbow” and that let me use the wrist and forearm. The elbow stays pointed out naturally so the concept of rotate around the elbow - or stick that elbow out through impacts - seemed to help. Thought I’d share in case it helps anyone else out there.
I like the video and agree. On rising balls use less wrist and forearm turn (flatter shot). And when hitting falling balls that are easier, more forearm turning and “turn the doorknob” action to increase spin. Your wrist and hand are pretty stable through contact.
Looking at your stroke, I see you not just rotating through the point of contact, but rather extending and rotating through contact. Just look at your wind shield wiper motion post contact. It's angled forward not perfectly vertical. This angle is achieved by releasing the wrist just prior to contact
Thanks for clarifying that you are using your wrist roll / doorknob turn through impact to impart more power and spin. It's interesting that there's so much disagreement about this. Nicola Aracic at his Intuitive Tennis channels says no -- using the wrist is too difficult to time and can cause injuries. However, others like Mauro Marcos and Jeff Salzenstein encourage it, like you, for power and spin. Salzenstein calls it a "hand turn" that he modeled after Guillermo Coria.
This is a great video. I finally understand now how I can get extra power with a stable wrist and firm grip. Just the sound of the hit shows it’s working and I get loads of topspin. Thanks so much! You have a quantum leap of insight compared to other coaches! Works for me!
Also and apart from the topic you talk about here, I commented to a friend (when I froze and sent him your takeback from rear view in 3:03 slowmo) how I love this known 90° geometry of your upperarm-elbow-forearm aligned with your shoulder and sidetrunk. I´ve seen this geometry hundreds of times in Nole and Roger. But not only that, like them once you reach that, the arm kind of stops there, does not go any further (well almost or nothing). I also froze that of Nitzan´s and his upperarm (more his forearm indeed) keeps on moving backwards, say a 20% - 30% more. Despite everybody knows that the moment of contact is supposedly what "matters", I've always believed that having always this arm structure with every incoming ball is a key base factor for a sound & consistent solid forehand not just because but it helps a lot in having a much better body balance, straight, compact, orderly that finally serves for a simpler and more natural bodyweight transfer against the ball. Of ocurse not to mention that stylisticly and visually looks awesome.
I think that’s a good observation. He has struggled to get this right because as I’ve pointed out in previous videos he didn’t used to turn then supinate. He supinate them rotated.
You guys Put out brilliant content , as someone who teaches the game I completely agree with your philosophy of teaching , keep up the great work , simple and easy to understand for most novice students
Very good and exactly what I’m trying to do ever since I’ve started trusting the throwing the racquet ,whip move. Another great idea I can now refer to anytime I need that reminder when I’m thinking of to many things! Thx!!!
Well said.. the windshield wiper comes from a pre.stretch on the shoulder jt that is released after the shoulders have squared up to the net.. most arming problems arise due to engaging the pectorals (often due to delay in prep or poor leg movement)🎾
I am so exited to try this. Just by doing the shadow swing I can see a huge difference, will let you know how it goes on the court. Thank you very much.
nice location shots... i need an RV ;) really good analysis. great strokes. i feel like the pros lay it back even further, full 90 degrees. depending on how fast they want it to go like to your point below i guess...
Kenetic chane : Tuening the hand (to open with the doornob ) the the forarm follows and absolutly no wrist movement ? That the way to hit clean and hard without damig you wrist. I agree .Thanks a lott from Denmark
I would think there should be more talk about shoulder rotation and it’s role in creating we’ll roll of the ball. Focusing exclusively on wrist or so much on the wrist could cause players to be to hand oriented. In my mind situations call into play what is needed to created the effect on the ball a player seeks/needs
Thanks Tom. As you are approaching contact you can turn the hand through forearm supination and, or by internal shoulder rotation. Do you have a sense for which rotation is dominant, that is whether the rotation is primarily driven from rotation of the shoulder or forearm when you are coming towards contact?
I think the kinetic chain right after the point of the contact starts to work backwards so the hand/wrist, then forearm, then shoulder works quickly in that order.
@@TomAllsopp Thanks Tom. I was also wondering about the feel coming into contact. In my case the loading and acceleration seems to come mostly from external (during loading) then internal shoulder rotation, though purposely pronating the forearm adds topspin. It seems a combo of shoulder rotation and wrist pronation coming into contact are used, but not sure which is primary and felt by the player in a top level forehand.
For me, every time I focus on turning the wrist, yes, l gain racket speed and topspin but lose stability and control thus less consistent. I feel lile it requires a perfect timing to get all the benefits so maybe for advanced players...
Man, where are you guys now?!?! All over the place. Pretty cool. Relaxation, grip pressure, feel does play a big role. I also think Tom like you said situations determine the degree of which the wrist is activated. What do you think is more effective or impactful, teaching the movement of the wrist or letting the student feel the wrist in different situations?
We made it to Stowe Vermont! I’m not sure if this is answering your question but using you hands is the best way to get someone to have feel. You feel with your hands! Playing in the service box is a great way to get the wrists and hands working.
is it an active wrist movement or the consequence of what happened prior?if it is the consequence of what happened prior, then is is correct to say that if you force the wrist to be stationary through contact, then in fact you are breaking the chain?
Sorry for disagreeing, but you spoke against those that maintain their wrists static through contact. Slow motion videos of the majority of the top players, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, etc., show their wrists static at contact, and after impact their wrists and arms release and turn. Upon careful observation of your video, your own forehand and those of your students in slow motion, I still see the wrists static through contact. Not stiff mind you, but static, and the release and pronation is immediately after contact. It may not be as late as many players, but it is definitely after impact. Moreover, I think that the static wrist is safer since the wrist is composed of 8 small bones, along with the metacarpal bones, and the ulna and radial bone. Not really made to rotate through impact (to much shock). Don't misunderstand me, I think your forehand technique is flawless, but your wrist releases right after contact, not during.
@@TomAllsopp Totally different. On serve the toss is passive, or soft, if that makes any sense. The wrist doesn't recieve much shock. So a pronation of the wrist through contact doesn't overload the joint. It's as if, in the precise moment of contact, the ball is static, very little kinetic energy. But when the ball comes towards the forehand with a lot of pace, there's a lot of kinetic energy that is transferred to the racquet, and wrist. A static wrist resists the impact better. Not stiff, nor a stangle hold on the grip, just static. Just my opinion.
@@ericfreeman5795 obviously the wrist doesn’t move during contact on a forehand. And like you say the incoming ball requires stability and the impact will prevent the wrist from moving. But if you don’t pronate through the contact it won’t happen after the balls left the racket. Of course you won’t see it in sow motion.
@@ericfreeman5795 btw I appreciate what you’re bringing up and how you’re doing it. This skill is similar to what I’m experiencing at golf. I want the club to pass my hands but at the moment of contact I have to make sure it’s square and that there’s a 3 inch period where I’m pushing through the shot. But I can’t just do that after contact, it must happen as an entire move. Make sense?
@@TomAllsopp Perfectly. I remember "trying" to learn golf as a teenager, those frustrating slices and hooks off to the trees. On my forehand, the best advice I recieved was the "static wrist through contact". During a match, being rushed by an oncoming ball to my forehand, I'd rush through the forehand and I'd tend to rotate a little to soon. Internal shoulder rotation, wrist pronation, and ball into the net. They said, swing from the shoulder and maintain your elbow and wrist static until contact, then release. Problem solved and my consistency went up, flat or topspin. I think every player has an individual querk that works for him or her that resolves a tecnical problem. I must add that my onehanded backhand is my natural stroke. My forehand was always my weekness. So, the simpler the shot, the better.
Man your forehand is big shot of course like everybody here already knows. Arguing the opposite is nonsense unless Nole Djokovic gives a press release statement claiming he does not use his wrist .... and I guess who you´re referring too. Like you say each coach has its own method to teach or to make his pupil to feel a stroke... absolutely right. Wonderful progress with Nitzan!!!! th-cam.com/video/5V8Ij3Raw6w/w-d-xo.html
Wanabee you have got to get this out of your head that twisting your wrist is going to improve your forehand. This is going to cause more trouble for you than anything else. How does this make sense to you? Where is the scientific evidence to back this up? Think about this. Are you able to control the depth of your shots and the ball bounce height of your shots with this method? Are you able to slow it down and speed it up. Is this method creating consistency with those variables in factor? The ball makes contact with the racquet and leaves the racquet in milliseconds, how does moving your wrist before impact create a more powerful and stable shot?
Those are some of the dumbest questions I’ve ever been asked. What level do you play at? Do you really think the wrist isn’t active to help players create power and make adjustments? Maybe watch some pros.
Turning your arm is not moving the wrist, so there is no need for misinterpreting what others have said regarding fixed arm structure. Hey, look at your own video in slow motion and see you have NO change of arm structure during the contact. Even the effect of forearm rotation is probably less than 5%. So, you are doing exactly what those who you criticize have suggested to do.
@@TomAllsopp Except, slow motion video even very low quality, did not show that. You do exactly like what those you criticize are suggesting - not changing arm structure during contact (+/-20cm). This suggestion is specifically for those who after watching too much TH-cam are trying to do something with their wrist during the contact.
I’m telling you exactly what I am doing as I hit a forehand. This is what I do. Not sure what you expect to see but I’m also seeing exactly what I would expect so see based on my feels.
@@TomAllsopp Very good. Then you do not need to misinterpret and "criticize" other coaches who are telling their students to do EXACTLY what you are doing.
I do not agree with that, cause pro players do not move their wrist at the impact with the ball, the wrist is completely stable before an during the stroke, only after de contact point it moves a little bit. If you move your wrist like a fan, the risk of serious injury increase a lot, it is not recommended.
i dont agree, why : in the lag position the angle between underarm and racket ( wrist ) is 90 degree and at contact that angle is between 40 and 50 degree so there is already wrist movement before contact !!!!! if not that would mean that the underarm should be pointing forward at contact if you keep that wrist locked ( i can show you 1000s of pictures from nadal federer djokovic in lag and at contact if you want.) at impact you have the idea that the racket is still but thats because off the impact with the ball that you see ( let say ) a small fraction of time that the angle is not changing
@@thereisnogod3924 finally someone pointed this out. Great analysis. Absolutely right about the angle change from max lag to contact. If it weren’t the case, then the lag wouldn’t provide any extra power.
Three things I especially like about this: (1) talks about which wrist movement to use and which one NOT to use; (2) talks about WHEN in the stroke to do it (not as late as some people think); (3) notes that sometimes you won't use it at all - you'll just push through the stroke. Wonderful!
Thanks mate. Nice summary!
I think it's important to highlight what you pointed out here. That the way to achieve this wrist rotation is not by using wrist muscles and originating the rotation there. My interpretation of this idea that all the energy being released through uncoiling your body and letting the arm follow, is allowing that forearm and wrist to rotate and maybe helping it along to accelerate it. A lot of club level players I see tend to originate the power of the rotation with the tiny wrist muscles. That would hurt.
Spot on. Exactly what I was going to write in comments.
Hi Coach, Whatever you are trying to say here, it is not visible in your shot that starts at 4:30 . When you look at it frame by frame, it‘s clear your wrist is stable and the wrist turn happens well after the ball has cleared the raquet.
For my personally, an ingrained habit of overusing that wrist movement was really disrupting my forehand. Once I fixed this I saw great improvement.
Each tennis player/coach will have different feelings as they hit their forehands. But this is my thought process and what I am feeling as I'm hitting forehands. Understanding how much to let the wrist go depending on the difficulty of the shot is key.
One key element I focus on, is how the "pull" is rotational, around the body (sync'ed to the body rotation and weigh transfer into the court/incoming ball), going from low to high. I.e. a "spiraling" pull, and not a linear back-to-front, or across-the-chest type of pull.
The less you move your body correctly, the more difficult this is to execute and understand. This is very hard to do correctly if you're standing still f.inst.
But if you execute this "spiraling" pull correctly, you will create a lag in the racket, that makes the racket naturally from below the wrist to above the wrist (aka windshield wiper motion) without needing to activate the wrist much, as a natural consequence of momentum.
This can easily be tested swinging an axe as a tennis racket. If you try to use the upper arm muscles too actively, you'll be asking for TE :-) Using the bigger muscles to start the acceleration, and end up with the upper arm muscles through the proper sequencing.
Then try a normal racket, which will feel like a badminton racket :-)
I think that many club players do not use the forearm/wrist as much and thus the racket does not release as you say and for the most part, it's fine for most people. I agree that despite what many pundits say, you do need to pronate to generate racket head speed but I would also say try to finish with the wrist in flexion position. Ie, the wrist goes from extend and ulnarly deviated to slightly flexed and radially deviated position. Just my 2 cents.
@@johnscpmg4862 This is very interesting opinion. I agree with your thoughts.
I've played tennis for 35 years and what you're saying is definitely spot on. Natural power comes from loosening the arm and wrist etc not firming it up.
I recently started using this technique and it has really added a lot of power to my forehead. Thanks for the instruction and keep it coming
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Great video and explanation, I tried this and instead of even turning the wrist I thought of “rotate around my right elbow” and that let me use the wrist and forearm. The elbow stays pointed out naturally so the concept of rotate around the elbow - or stick that elbow out through impacts - seemed to help. Thought I’d share in case it helps anyone else out there.
I like the video and agree. On rising balls use less wrist and forearm turn (flatter shot). And when hitting falling balls that are easier, more forearm turning and “turn the doorknob” action to increase spin. Your wrist and hand are pretty stable through contact.
Superb ultimate insight into the wrist role in any meaningful FH. Not a penny more, not a penny less. Bravo!!!
Thanks. No nonsense haha
Man the ending of that video is amazing guys!!!! Great work and absolutely phenomenal content! Thank you, you give such in-depth material!!
Thanks mate. More to come!
Looking at your stroke, I see you not just rotating through the point of contact, but rather extending and rotating through contact. Just look at your wind shield wiper motion post contact. It's angled forward not perfectly vertical. This angle is achieved by releasing the wrist just prior to contact
Thanks for clarifying that you are using your wrist roll / doorknob turn through impact to impart more power and spin. It's interesting that there's so much disagreement about this. Nicola Aracic at his Intuitive Tennis channels says no -- using the wrist is too difficult to time and can cause injuries. However, others like Mauro Marcos and Jeff Salzenstein encourage it, like you, for power and spin. Salzenstein calls it a "hand turn" that he modeled after Guillermo Coria.
This is a great video. I finally understand now how I can get extra power with a stable wrist and firm grip. Just the sound of the hit shows it’s working and I get loads of topspin. Thanks so much! You have a quantum leap of insight compared to other coaches! Works for me!
Thank you!
Also and apart from the topic you talk about here, I commented to a friend (when I froze and sent him your takeback from rear view in 3:03 slowmo) how I love this known 90° geometry of your upperarm-elbow-forearm aligned with your shoulder and sidetrunk. I´ve seen this geometry hundreds of times in Nole and Roger. But not only that, like them once you reach that, the arm kind of stops there, does not go any further (well almost or nothing). I also froze that of Nitzan´s and his upperarm (more his forearm indeed) keeps on moving backwards, say a 20% - 30% more.
Despite everybody knows that the moment of contact is supposedly what "matters", I've always believed that having always this arm structure with every incoming ball is a key base factor for a sound & consistent solid forehand not just because but it helps a lot in having a much better body balance, straight, compact, orderly that finally serves for a simpler and more natural bodyweight transfer against the ball.
Of ocurse not to mention that stylisticly and visually looks awesome.
I think that’s a good observation. He has struggled to get this right because as I’ve pointed out in previous videos he didn’t used to turn then supinate. He supinate them rotated.
You guys Put out brilliant content , as someone who teaches the game I completely agree with your philosophy of teaching , keep up the great work , simple and easy to understand for most novice students
Thank you Chandra!
Very good and exactly what I’m trying to do ever since I’ve started trusting the throwing the racquet ,whip move. Another great idea I can now refer to anytime I need that reminder when I’m thinking of to many things! Thx!!!
Well said.. the windshield wiper comes from a pre.stretch on the shoulder jt that is released after the shoulders have squared up to the net.. most arming problems arise due to engaging the pectorals (often due to delay in prep or poor leg movement)🎾
I am so exited to try this. Just by doing the shadow swing I can see a huge difference, will let you know how it goes on the court. Thank you very much.
Let me know. Thanks!
Wow!!! FH ultimate the most neglected detail finally successfully mulled. Bravo, Tom!!!
Damn u guys make it look easy. Awesome explanation and demonstration.
Thank you.
nice location shots... i need an RV ;) really good analysis. great strokes. i feel like the pros lay it back even further, full 90 degrees. depending on how fast they want it to go like to your point below i guess...
Yes they accelerate more into the supination causing the wrist to lay back and sling shot the racket into the shot.
#vanlife
Kenetic chane : Tuening the hand (to open with the doornob ) the the forarm follows and absolutly no wrist movement ? That the way to hit clean and hard without damig you wrist.
I agree .Thanks a lott from Denmark
I would think there should be more talk about shoulder rotation and it’s role in creating we’ll roll of the ball. Focusing exclusively on wrist or so much on the wrist could cause players to be to hand oriented. In my mind situations call into play what is needed to created the effect on the ball a player seeks/needs
Thanks Tom. As you are approaching contact you can turn the hand through forearm supination and, or by internal shoulder rotation. Do you have a sense for which rotation is dominant, that is whether the rotation is primarily driven from rotation of the shoulder or forearm when you are coming towards contact?
I think the kinetic chain right after the point of the contact starts to work backwards so the hand/wrist, then forearm, then shoulder works quickly in that order.
@@TomAllsopp Thanks Tom. I was also wondering about the feel coming into contact. In my case the loading and acceleration seems to come mostly from external (during loading) then internal shoulder rotation, though purposely pronating the forearm adds topspin. It seems a combo of shoulder rotation and wrist pronation coming into contact are used, but not sure which is primary and felt by the player in a top level forehand.
Great tips...Tom...!!
Cheers
Is the peashooter Nitzan's wielding at 1:37 for sale?
A client got it for me off “Chinese eBay”
For me, every time I focus on turning the wrist, yes, l gain racket speed and topspin but lose stability and control thus less consistent.
I feel lile it requires a perfect timing to get all the benefits so maybe for advanced players...
Man, where are you guys now?!?! All over the place. Pretty cool.
Relaxation, grip pressure, feel does play a big role.
I also think Tom like you said situations determine the degree of which the wrist is activated. What do you think is more effective or impactful, teaching the movement of the wrist or letting the student feel the wrist in different situations?
We made it to Stowe Vermont! I’m not sure if this is answering your question but using you hands is the best way to get someone to have feel. You feel with your hands! Playing in the service box is a great way to get the wrists and hands working.
@@TomAllsopp yup! Thanks Tom👍
Nice forehand
Fantastic 🙏
hi tpa tennis, is this the windshield wiper motion on the modern forehand?? or similar?
Coach, the audio is a little low.
Yeah sorry mate. Next time i'll sort it
is it an active wrist movement or the consequence of what happened prior?if it is the consequence of what happened prior, then is is correct to say that if you force the wrist to be stationary through contact, then in fact you are breaking the chain?
The girl in the back crying that the ball was out was really annoying. Other than that this is a great tip. Love this channel.
Haha sorry I didn’t think I needed my mic and then they went at it.
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My forehand sails and I see my racket face is open after contact a bit. I've got textbook setup but do you think I need to doorknob a bit more?
I'm not sure, I'd have to see it
@@TomAllsopp Watched a few of your vids on it, v helpful. I was using my forearm and not shoulder rotation for doorknob. Thanks!
I agree with you
At 2.23 the girls arguing over a line call 😂
Lol, I had to pause here. Ridiculous. Sounds like my ex!!
Sorry for disagreeing, but you spoke against those that maintain their wrists static through contact. Slow motion videos of the majority of the top players, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, etc., show their wrists static at contact, and after impact their wrists and arms release and turn.
Upon careful observation of your video, your own forehand and those of your students in slow motion, I still see the wrists static through contact. Not stiff mind you, but static, and the release and pronation is immediately after contact. It may not be as late as many players, but it is definitely after impact.
Moreover, I think that the static wrist is safer since the wrist is composed of 8 small bones, along with the metacarpal bones, and the ulna and radial bone. Not really made to rotate through impact (to much shock).
Don't misunderstand me, I think your forehand technique is flawless, but your wrist releases right after contact, not during.
That’s exactly what I would expect and I realize that it happens. Would you say it happens on a serve too?
@@TomAllsopp Totally different. On serve the toss is passive, or soft, if that makes any sense. The wrist doesn't recieve much shock. So a pronation of the wrist through contact doesn't overload the joint. It's as if, in the precise moment of contact, the ball is static, very little kinetic energy.
But when the ball comes towards the forehand with a lot of pace, there's a lot of kinetic energy that is transferred to the racquet, and wrist. A static wrist resists the impact better. Not stiff, nor a stangle hold on the grip, just static.
Just my opinion.
@@ericfreeman5795 obviously the wrist doesn’t move during contact on a forehand. And like you say the incoming ball requires stability and the impact will prevent the wrist from moving. But if you don’t pronate through the contact it won’t happen after the balls left the racket. Of course you won’t see it in sow motion.
@@ericfreeman5795 btw I appreciate what you’re bringing up and how you’re doing it. This skill is similar to what I’m experiencing at golf. I want the club to pass my hands but at the moment of contact I have to make sure it’s square and that there’s a 3 inch period where I’m pushing through the shot. But I can’t just do that after contact, it must happen as an entire move. Make sense?
@@TomAllsopp Perfectly. I remember "trying" to learn golf as a teenager, those frustrating slices and hooks off to the trees.
On my forehand, the best advice I recieved was the "static wrist through contact". During a match, being rushed by an oncoming ball to my forehand, I'd rush through the forehand and I'd tend to rotate a little to soon. Internal shoulder rotation, wrist pronation, and ball into the net.
They said, swing from the shoulder and maintain your elbow and wrist static until contact, then release. Problem solved and my consistency went up, flat or topspin.
I think every player has an individual querk that works for him or her that resolves a tecnical problem. I must add that my onehanded backhand is my natural stroke. My forehand was always my weekness. So, the simpler the shot, the better.
Man your forehand is big shot of course like everybody here already knows. Arguing the opposite is nonsense unless Nole Djokovic gives a press release statement claiming he does not use his wrist .... and I guess who you´re referring too. Like you say each coach has its own method to teach or to make his pupil to feel a stroke... absolutely right. Wonderful progress with Nitzan!!!!
th-cam.com/video/5V8Ij3Raw6w/w-d-xo.html
Wanabee you have got to get this out of your head that twisting your wrist is going to improve your forehand. This is going to cause more trouble for you than anything else. How does this make sense to you? Where is the scientific evidence to back this up? Think about this. Are you able to control the depth of your shots and the ball bounce height of your shots with this method? Are you able to slow it down and speed it up. Is this method creating consistency with those variables in factor? The ball makes contact with the racquet and leaves the racquet in milliseconds, how does moving your wrist before impact create a more powerful and stable shot?
Those are some of the dumbest questions I’ve ever been asked. What level do you play at? Do you really think the wrist isn’t active to help players create power and make adjustments? Maybe watch some pros.
Turning your arm is not moving the wrist, so there is no need for misinterpreting what others have said regarding fixed arm structure. Hey, look at your own video in slow motion and see you have NO change of arm structure during the contact. Even the effect of forearm rotation is probably less than 5%. So, you are doing exactly what those who you criticize have suggested to do.
No I’m not. I release and rotate going into contact
@@TomAllsopp Except, slow motion video even very low quality, did not show that. You do exactly like what those you criticize are suggesting - not changing arm structure during contact (+/-20cm). This suggestion is specifically for those who after watching too much TH-cam are trying to do something with their wrist during the contact.
I’m telling you exactly what I am doing as I hit a forehand. This is what I do. Not sure what you expect to see but I’m also seeing exactly what I would expect so see based on my feels.
@@TomAllsopp Very good. Then you do not need to misinterpret and "criticize" other coaches who are telling their students to do EXACTLY what you are doing.
I didn’t
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I do not agree with that, cause pro players do not move their wrist at the impact with the ball, the wrist is completely stable before an during the stroke, only after de contact point it moves a little bit.
If you move your wrist like a fan, the risk of serious injury increase a lot, it is not recommended.
My wrist is also completely stable at contact…
i dont agree, why : in the lag position the angle between underarm and racket ( wrist ) is 90 degree and at contact that angle is between 40 and 50 degree so there is already wrist movement before contact !!!!! if not that would mean that the underarm should be pointing forward at contact if you keep that wrist locked ( i can show you 1000s of pictures from nadal federer djokovic in lag and at contact if you want.) at impact you have the idea that the racket is still but thats because off the impact with the ball that you see ( let say ) a small fraction of time that the angle is not changing
@@thereisnogod3924 finally someone pointed this out. Great analysis. Absolutely right about the angle change from max lag to contact. If it weren’t the case, then the lag wouldn’t provide any extra power.
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