@@good-channelname6207 Yeah, you're probably right. This entire Dusttale take has actual quality and this doesn't doesn't seem like something that'd be ignored. On the other hand, Sans is exactly the type of person to interrupt a monologue like this. Breaking conventional game and plot 'rules' is his entire thing. This ain't a complaint because it works here, but it'd be cool if another, probably edgier take played it out.
Can't wait until the Muffet interaction since she's canonically basically the only reason we were able to get past hotland at all, thus the reason the human was able to complete genocide at all, yet alone the reason dust went mad in the first place. For selfish reasons, too, just read her Genocide dialog instead of instantlly killing her. You'll see what I mean.
@@BenjaminIzquierdo-nb6tq there's no au like that because she has no reason. She's evil so she probably wouldn't care about the human killing everyone plus if she knew she could have just evacuated and continued selling to the residents of hotland alongside the fact that there's no way she'd want to kill everyone herself because she needs money and who's going to pay her if there's no one to sell to?
@@joelridenour4878 agreed, assuming sans' attacks ignore immunity frames, his hp, stamina, and damage are superior in a way, and his overall *movement*
Really goes to show you how strong/determined Undyne was, from getting one shot (dunno if she was off-guard or not.) to BEATING the crap outta a Sans' whos level I assume is around 5-7-ish?
As a low-ball I could probably see that yeah. Especially since he didn't kill Papyrus. But being generous and saying that Sans ended up killing quite a few waterfall monsters, maybe it's possible he could've been a bit higher? Unless I'm wrong. I haven't studied much into dusttale. I'm just saying since this is a Geno route fight so ofc the human tries taking their time, resulting in Sans having more time to kill monsters and get ahead of them as well.
@@IncorrectBuzzerr Yeah, I guess it’s fully dependent on the run by the player, but in this instance (I don’t remember.) the encounter was caused by a full Geno-player.
@@Monkes23 Yeah the description says this song and fight takes place in the full on Geno route. So realistically who knows, Sans could be closer to like, Lv 8-10 depending on how many monsters he got to kill from the player tryna grind out as well.
I think Sans beat her normal form in one shot because it was a betrayal kill, Undyne wouldnt have her guard up around another monster, especially sans of all people.
@@joeypickering5273 That's true, but she definitely would have her guard up in her Undying form. I was mostly just guessing what level Sans would be because this is a Geno fight, so Sans would have been able to at least kill Toriel and quite a few ruins, Snowdin, and waterfall monsters since the human would be grinding lv too.
@@raysomethingsomething imagine saying that and not thinking about his attacks not having immunity frames and dealing possibly *WAY MORE* more than 1 damage per tick
@@ivanedugameworld9872 Iirc, DTBL goes with the headcanon that Sans only really gets those abilities if the enemy has enough LV. That's why he struggles against a froggit
@@skell6134nope. Thats anti villain. Anti-heroes do good, but in bad ways, and usually not for the best of reasons. Anti villains do bad, but for a good cause.
@@skell6134 nope. Read it again. Or I'll just rephrase it. Ultimately, the anti-hero does the right thing, but not necessarily for the right reasons. Whereas the anti-villain does the wrong thing, but their reasons are often understandable, and even good. Hence, dust sans is an anti-villain, not an anti-hero. ._.
Sort of, Sans would've definitely died without Papyrus' intervention, but his intention was to just weaken/K.O , Undyne- the kill in itself was an accident
@@sharkyssillies so papyrus accidentally kill undyne..... you mean that he just wanted to stop undyne but she was weak enough thx to sans or did sans was already going to win the battle and papyrus stole xp
@@robertoxlnubillux8964 it seems that papyrus accidently killed undyne because he decided to intervene due to sans possibly dying, that's what i think it happened
So wait is the player in this situation going tk be playing as sans or undyne? Since this is a ost for a battle betweent the two that nust mean are in skme way playing in the battle either as undyne or sans? Would be cool if we played as undyne ngl, having to stragies when we turn sans into green soul so he cant teleport around and instead has to defend with a bone and the suxh
You switch between playing as sans and frisk/Chara throughout the game. In the ruins you play as sans and throughout most of snowdin you play as frisk. in the papyrus encounter you play as sans
I'll say it *Sans F'ed up* Bc in normal dusttale undyne doesnt go trough the undying form and even with its normal form we made it there before sans killed her even tho he can tp to anywhere And you know the undying kinda good at spamming and sans'es dodge kinda rely's on his stamina and unlike us sans has ONE SHOT at defeating Undyne the Undying And some people will say things like Sans has Fatherless Blaster and Karma Well firstly Karma Only effects us Because of the killings the sins we commited well undyne didnt do any of those so karma doesnt work on her meaning and knowing sans damage mech works kn the ticks it means sans deal 1 damage per 24th of a sec meaning sans can deal only 24 damage per sec on LOVE 1 And we know this is Racist Dust And if we think the First Dusttale GAME when we came to the end Of waterfall we had LOVE 3 Which means Sans Much likely has LOVE 9 giving him an ATK of 19 But Undyne Defense Makes that dans only deal 3 DMG per tick giving him 27 DMG At MAX per secand so to kill her with 23000 HP it requares sans to endlessly damage her for about 14 MINUTES STRAIGHT Without getting TIRED Getting Killed or Having us interfier woth his fight Its kinda sad to say but *Sans is in a losing fight* . Thats why sans cant beat the unying on a 1v1
hay algo de dusttale que nunca tuvo sentido sans no deberia poder matar a los monstruos, o al menos no a los mas fuertes sans solo tiene 1 AT, se que con el KR hace daño continuo sin importar tu LV, este aun funciona ya que en el undertale original si alteras tu LV a 1 en la batalla contra sans su KR aun funciona, solo que es menos potente pero eso solo funciona en el humano por que tiene decenas de HP, 92-99 como maximo, no llega ni al centenar los monstruos comunes tambien varian entre varias decenas, por lo que puedo ver que pueda ganar pero los especiales ya tienen cientos y los jefes (del juego no monstruos jefes) tienen todos aproximadamente miles undyne en su forma normal tiene 1500 HP, su forma UNDYING tiene 23000, decenas de miles no veo como sans puede matarla incluso si su LV a aumentado el LV te da 4 HP y 2 AT cada LV junto a 1 DF cada 4 LV sans en LV 1 tiene 1 HP 1 AT y 1 DF si logra robar todas las muertes al humano deberia tener LV 10 al enfrentarse a undyne que son 37 HP 19 AT y 3 DF para sans, menos HP que el humano en el mismo LV pero 1 mas en su AT y DF ya es dificil que le baje los 1500 HP a undyne (principalmente por que no sabemos su LV), pero es perfectamente imposible que le baje los 23000 de undying, perdera la unica razon por la que el humano pudo con ella es por que los monstruos son sensibles a la intencion de matar (herir/malas intenciones etc) y los humanos tienen mucho de ello sin importar su LV por eso el daño echo a cada mostruo varia tanto incluso si las estadisticas no son muy diferentes, por que el humano quiere matarlos con diferentes ganas (eso dice mucho sobre toriel), sans no tiene eso incluso si se equipa buenos ITEMS y su LV le da algo de intencion de matar para hacer daño por encima de su AT no es suficiente sans es un monstruo, no lo veo siendo lo suficientemnte malicioso incluso con un LV alto para golpear muy por encima de su AT no lo veo ganando
In this au, this is taken into consideration of Sans being weak, he has difficulty to kill even a froggit. In this case he was also losing to Undyne, and while he did do some good damage to her, he would have died if Papyrus didn't hit her
Sans after realizing Undyne could probably dodge as well due to her being able to block the hit for Monster Kid at the last second out of nowhere (He is cooked)
@@radhoodini9802 I'm blind. 🗿 (I didn't see that when I first read the description and that's why I made the comment. Apologies to the creator and everyone reading my stupid comment for my idiocy.)
@@radhoodini9802 Thanks for being understanding lol. I hope you have a great year and I appreciate you being nice about your response. That kindness'll get you far. I'm sure of it.
To people who think undyne the undying is invincible, you gotta remember sans can just remove her I frames. And kill her. Remember it's sans not Evan's dusttale. (so he won't make dumb moves)
if we're realistically speaking here undying CRUSHES dust sans and papyrus. even if "papyrus stronkr than undyn he holds back!!1" undyne the undying is SEVERAL times stronger than base undyne, and we all agree sans stands no chance. edit: yall how many times do you think undying is stronger than base undyne? ingame stats the damage is like 4 and the hp is around 15, im thinking canonically its 50-100ish
I'll say It's a mixture of "Undyne was a little weak and distracted after some weak Sans attacks" but then was caught off guard by papyrus, I feel like that should count as a betrayal kill as it was a attack from her back and she wasn't expecting it
TLDR, Sans is getting his ass handed to him due to the sheer stat difference, Papyrus tries to break out the fight before he dies and accidentally kills Undyne who likely didn't expect the attack
@@raysomethingsomething honestly not expecting an attack shouldnt be the same as a betrayal kill in this case, pretty sure its only if the opponent spares you, and i REALLY dont think papyrus could one shot undyne the undying even if she wasnt on guard. undying's bulk is ungodly and determination is straight up plot armor
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Sans as Undyne goes through her entire 'refusing to die' transformation, doing literally nothing at all and letting it happen: 🧍♂️
if you look in the beginning of Dead Sea, he's shaking, hes probably fuckin' terrified and didn't think it'd go that far
@@good-channelname6207 Yeah, you're probably right. This entire Dusttale take has actual quality and this doesn't doesn't seem like something that'd be ignored.
On the other hand, Sans is exactly the type of person to interrupt a monologue like this. Breaking conventional game and plot 'rules' is his entire thing. This ain't a complaint because it works here, but it'd be cool if another, probably edgier take played it out.
@@the_egg_to be fair, Undyne is REALLY tanky so it would have taken some time for her to die even if she was doing her monologue
Why did the human in the OG undertale wait for Undyne to go through the same transformation and nobody questioned it?
@bloo-colada2653 Honestly, the egg was thinking the exact same thing. Maybe Chara/Frisk/da player just wanted a harder battle the egg doesn't know lol
"about to go fight, i'll post the video after."
(10 minutes later)
"i got my ass beat bruh my brother had to bail me out i'm not posting that shit."
"Little bastard stole my kill."
(Another ten minutes later)
“me and bro killing some monsters.”
*_I WANNA SEE SANS IN A TUTU AND BALLET SHOES RAHHH_*
Can’t imagine
Can't wait until the Muffet interaction since she's canonically basically the only reason we were able to get past hotland at all, thus the reason the human was able to complete genocide at all, yet alone the reason dust went mad in the first place. For selfish reasons, too, just read her Genocide dialog instead of instantlly killing her. You'll see what I mean.
boutta hit her with the pesticide 🦴🦴💀
Man I want to see more muffet content, she’s pretty interesting and selfishly evil, surprised there’s no au where she’s the one doing genocide
@@BenjaminIzquierdo-nb6tq there's no au like that because she has no reason. She's evil so she probably wouldn't care about the human killing everyone plus if she knew she could have just evacuated and continued selling to the residents of hotland alongside the fact that there's no way she'd want to kill everyone herself because she needs money and who's going to pay her if there's no one to sell to?
Cold spider cider would make a killing in hotland
Do NOT let her near Alphys she is freaking twisted
* Don't you just love it when fish is served with bones?
who does
psychopath
disbeef
Disbeef?@@Void2203 Is that the AU were you fight a cow?
No
As ceo of fish, I can confirm dust sans is cooked.
Nah
@@joelridenour4878 agreed, assuming sans' attacks ignore immunity frames, his hp, stamina, and damage are superior in a way, and his overall *movement*
@@ivanedugameworld9872we do not know if sans no i-frames thing is because of karma
@@ivanedugameworld9872 well canon dust is insanely strong.
he just easily killed undying with his red eyes.
@@ivanedugameworld9872 taking the og stats, no, sans only surpasses undyne in mobility, u dune has way more hp, damage stats and stamina
* The underground Heroine blocks His way.
* He is at The other side.
* They started to arge about something.
Something smells fishy here…
The song already sounded good, but at 5:36 and onwards it gets so amazing!
I actually found myself cheering for Undyne from her little speech
Really goes to show you how strong/determined Undyne was, from getting one shot (dunno if she was off-guard or not.) to BEATING the crap outta a Sans' whos level I assume is around 5-7-ish?
As a low-ball I could probably see that yeah. Especially since he didn't kill Papyrus. But being generous and saying that Sans ended up killing quite a few waterfall monsters, maybe it's possible he could've been a bit higher? Unless I'm wrong. I haven't studied much into dusttale. I'm just saying since this is a Geno route fight so ofc the human tries taking their time, resulting in Sans having more time to kill monsters and get ahead of them as well.
@@IncorrectBuzzerr Yeah, I guess it’s fully dependent on the run by the player, but in this instance (I don’t remember.) the encounter was caused by a full Geno-player.
@@Monkes23 Yeah the description says this song and fight takes place in the full on Geno route. So realistically who knows, Sans could be closer to like, Lv 8-10 depending on how many monsters he got to kill from the player tryna grind out as well.
I think Sans beat her normal form in one shot because it was a betrayal kill, Undyne wouldnt have her guard up around another monster, especially sans of all people.
@@joeypickering5273 That's true, but she definitely would have her guard up in her Undying form. I was mostly just guessing what level Sans would be because this is a Geno fight, so Sans would have been able to at least kill Toriel and quite a few ruins, Snowdin, and waterfall monsters since the human would be grinding lv too.
If you look closely, sans is shaking.
I dont know why sans is shaking, maybe Fear? Regret? Empathy?
hes fighting undyne the literal lead of the royal guard.
he's getting his ass kicked bro
@@raysomethingsomething imagine saying that and not thinking about his attacks not having immunity frames and dealing possibly *WAY MORE* more than 1 damage per tick
@@ivanedugameworld9872 Iirc, DTBL goes with the headcanon that Sans only really gets those abilities if the enemy has enough LV. That's why he struggles against a froggit
@@raysomethingsomething oh, oh damn
Even a froggit?
I honesly hope this just become a fan game or a comic becose this au is just so cool
Game I'm development but last time I checked they said the game was "1 percent done" being made
Undyne would canonically kick the shit out of sans. Green magic is busted.
She would have difficulties, Because she knows papyrus cares about Sans, and she also cares about sans.
The whole implication i that the battle is largely uphill on Undyne's side until Papyrus attempts to break it out
it would be easier for him to block the attacks with a bone than dodge lmao
@@cooldude2794 physical exertion probably gonna tire him out after a while
Yeah, that's the point - Sans is losing by a landslide here
oh my god this is the best dusttale undyne theme ever
It's gonna take more than a fish in shining armor to stop him.
undyne's pose makes me think of the "THATS THE ONE OFFICER" meme
_* The Anti Hero VS The True Hero_
sans is an anti villian, not anti hero
@@rankky6409Antihero is term when someone does BAD stuff to achieve something good dude
Dust Sans is anti hero . -.
@@skell6134nope. Thats anti villain. Anti-heroes do good, but in bad ways, and usually not for the best of reasons. Anti villains do bad, but for a good cause.
@@drysoup3017 You literally just did repeat what i said
@@skell6134 nope. Read it again. Or I'll just rephrase it. Ultimately, the anti-hero does the right thing, but not necessarily for the right reasons. Whereas the anti-villain does the wrong thing, but their reasons are often understandable, and even good. Hence, dust sans is an anti-villain, not an anti-hero. ._.
he aint built for this cuh
sans was absolutely done for against Undyne the undying here if it wasn't for paps
the end part is absolutely 🥶🥶
If Sans won't impale undying on thorns or rocks, he'll lose no doubt
If of course character's here are slightly similar to their Canon counterpart
This isn't og Sans.
@@dev.1.1.1 yeah but he's still weak as fuck compared to a human
sans wanna eat some sushi
Did Papyrus just kill Undyne to save Sans?
Sort of, Sans would've definitely died without Papyrus' intervention, but his intention was to just weaken/K.O , Undyne- the kill in itself was an accident
accidentally
@@sharkyssillies so papyrus accidentally kill undyne..... you mean that he just wanted to stop undyne but she was weak enough thx to sans or did sans was already going to win the battle and papyrus stole xp
@@robertoxlnubillux8964 it seems that papyrus accidently killed undyne because he decided to intervene due to sans possibly dying, that's what i think it happened
@@robertoxlnubillux8964wdym weak enough paps is stronger or as strong as undyne
at the beginning sans is literally going "mom come pick me up im scared" [hes shaking, lil bro is scared]
2:35
*my lvl 5 is not ready for this shit brother.
*H-HOW WOULD I KNOW?
- sans and papyrus when they see undyne turned into undying
He probably has more LV than 5. Because he killed more monsters.
@@SansINess53
He didnt killed paps here
Hes lvl 2 on snowdin
So he must be around 5+ and not higher than 7
@@winter5337 the lv2 encounter is only in a Pacifist/Neutral route , In the genocide route, Sans kills more monsters
@@winter5337 The Ruins Encounter preview shows him having 9 ATK, and for each LV you got 2+ ATK. So Sans must be at LV 5 when you fight him in Ruins
@@OrnalmNakan papyrus was indeed alive during this, so there's a possibility that sans is still not higher than lvl 6+
The furry cooked with this one!!!
well these two.
this is basicly dust tale rejuvenation. to make this easy
We don’t talk about rejuvenation 💀
@@GenosTheLazyGoofI liked Undertale: Rejuvenation.
*Undyne the Undying
*85 ATK. *60 DEF.
*Heroin reformed under an heartbreaking scenario...her determination wavers and yet...she is...
Heroin
@@dsssss-is2ye I love heroin
Heroin
Heroin
Herobrine
Sans watching Undyne ascend beyond death through sheer force of will: °~°
Dusttale help from the void is real
Sad that this is premiering at 11pm for me, but eh, i can watch it in the morning
11pm aint that late i sleep at 6 am
holy shit fish vs bones
SO PEAK
Did not expect to see you here
@@arishafatema1549lol
Can I ask how much LV does sans possess here?
probably 8-ish here, he killed toriel and the snowdin/waterfall enemies were 'shared' with frisk
Such a neat and amazing OST video ngl
So wait is the player in this situation going tk be playing as sans or undyne?
Since this is a ost for a battle betweent the two that nust mean are in skme way playing in the battle either as undyne or sans?
Would be cool if we played as undyne ngl, having to stragies when we turn sans into green soul so he cant teleport around and instead has to defend with a bone and the suxh
You switch between playing as sans and frisk/Chara throughout the game. In the ruins you play as sans and throughout most of snowdin you play as frisk. in the papyrus encounter you play as sans
she looks so unsettling with the helmet
Neat.
I'll say it
*Sans F'ed up*
Bc in normal dusttale undyne doesnt go trough the undying form and even with its normal form we made it there before sans killed her even tho he can tp to anywhere
And you know the undying kinda good at spamming and sans'es dodge kinda rely's on his stamina and unlike us sans has ONE SHOT at defeating Undyne the Undying
And some people will say things like Sans has Fatherless Blaster and Karma Well firstly Karma Only effects us Because of the killings the sins we commited well undyne didnt do any of those so karma doesnt work on her meaning and knowing sans damage mech works kn the ticks it means sans deal 1 damage per 24th of a sec meaning sans can deal only 24 damage per sec on LOVE 1 And we know this is Racist Dust And if we think the First Dusttale GAME when we came to the end Of waterfall we had LOVE 3 Which means Sans Much likely has LOVE 9 giving him an ATK of 19 But Undyne Defense Makes that dans only deal 3 DMG per tick giving him 27 DMG At MAX per secand so to kill her with 23000 HP it requares sans to endlessly damage her for about 14 MINUTES STRAIGHT Without getting TIRED Getting Killed or Having us interfier woth his fight
Its kinda sad to say but *Sans is in a losing fight* .
Thats why sans cant beat the unying on a 1v1
Dusttale game isn’t canon
@@ImSoCool0291 looks like somebody didnt read my Comment INNEVER SAID DUSTTALE WAS CANON
no wonder papyrus had to kill her
@@iloowes I don’t think u realize u made a whole paragraph
toby didnt say anything about KR effect
hay algo de dusttale que nunca tuvo sentido
sans no deberia poder matar a los monstruos, o al menos no a los mas fuertes
sans solo tiene 1 AT, se que con el KR hace daño continuo sin importar tu LV, este aun funciona
ya que en el undertale original si alteras tu LV a 1 en la batalla contra sans su KR aun funciona, solo que es menos potente
pero eso solo funciona en el humano por que tiene decenas de HP, 92-99 como maximo, no llega ni al centenar
los monstruos comunes tambien varian entre varias decenas, por lo que puedo ver que pueda ganar
pero los especiales ya tienen cientos y los jefes (del juego no monstruos jefes) tienen todos aproximadamente miles
undyne en su forma normal tiene 1500 HP, su forma UNDYING tiene 23000, decenas de miles
no veo como sans puede matarla incluso si su LV a aumentado
el LV te da 4 HP y 2 AT cada LV junto a 1 DF cada 4 LV
sans en LV 1 tiene 1 HP 1 AT y 1 DF
si logra robar todas las muertes al humano deberia tener LV 10 al enfrentarse a undyne
que son 37 HP 19 AT y 3 DF para sans, menos HP que el humano en el mismo LV pero 1 mas en su AT y DF
ya es dificil que le baje los 1500 HP a undyne (principalmente por que no sabemos su LV), pero es perfectamente imposible que le baje los 23000 de undying, perdera
la unica razon por la que el humano pudo con ella es por que los monstruos son sensibles a la intencion de matar (herir/malas intenciones etc) y los humanos tienen mucho de ello sin importar su LV
por eso el daño echo a cada mostruo varia tanto incluso si las estadisticas no son muy diferentes, por que el humano quiere matarlos con diferentes ganas (eso dice mucho sobre toriel), sans no tiene eso
incluso si se equipa buenos ITEMS y su LV le da algo de intencion de matar para hacer daño por encima de su AT no es suficiente
sans es un monstruo, no lo veo siendo lo suficientemnte malicioso incluso con un LV alto para golpear muy por encima de su AT
no lo veo ganando
Sans no gana, fue papyrus 🥸
Solo disfruta el temazo bro xd
In this au, this is taken into consideration of Sans being weak, he has difficulty to kill even a froggit.
In this case he was also losing to Undyne, and while he did do some good damage to her, he would have died if Papyrus didn't hit her
Lets be honest Undying would cook and serve his bones to dogs if they really fought 💀
papyrus has to intervene to save his ass
The strongest skeleton VS The fish stick
(i dont really know what to put for undyne)
Vs lesbian fish
Sans after realizing Undyne could probably dodge as well due to her being able to block the hit for Monster Kid at the last second out of nowhere (He is cooked)
Ahh man. It was awesome. But im torn from that endings implications..
OH MY PEAK
Sans is Very Cooked
Why did he just stand there while she was delivering her 2 minute monologue
Sans: kills undyne
Undyne: anime power
Sans : shit💀
THEYRE DOING THE SPIDERMAN POINTING
I dunno if this comment will be seen but I wanna ask. Is this fight specifically for Pacifist/Neutral? Genocide? Or both?
read the description first bud
@@radhoodini9802 I'm blind. 🗿 (I didn't see that when I first read the description and that's why I made the comment. Apologies to the creator and everyone reading my stupid comment for my idiocy.)
@@PureCringe it's fine bro, it sometimes happen to me too lol
@@radhoodini9802 Thanks for being understanding lol. I hope you have a great year and I appreciate you being nice about your response. That kindness'll get you far. I'm sure of it.
@@PureCringeTbh I don't blame you lol
OMG dope
DEAD SEA starts at 1:54
nice
aw dangit papyru killed undyne
God song
You guys should make a full fletch AU/game out of this I think it will be a really good game
What do you think they're already doing?
Lol@@eon3665
Is that the SpongeBob / Patrick megalo motif that I hear from the Megalovania lead
What he gonna do when green 💀
To people who think undyne the undying is invincible, you gotta remember sans can just remove her I frames. And kill her.
Remember it's sans not Evan's dusttale.
(so he won't make dumb moves)
Oh god you're a bit off ngl, she has more HP than Omega Flowey it would take FOREVER to kill her.
@@colecoal1365 omega flowey : 9,999,999 HP.
@@colecoal1365 Undyne the undying : 23,000 HP
@@SansINess53 Omega Flowey: 9950
@@colecoal1365 in-game files?
WHAT IS THAT REFFERENCE???? 2:53
Pretty sure it's the melody of megalovania reversed
@@thatdvidkid3838 yeah but theres a song with that leads...
😮
pipis
Thats not epic for hero like undyne🤨
Fnf reference:
if we're realistically speaking here undying CRUSHES dust sans and papyrus. even if "papyrus stronkr than undyn he holds back!!1" undyne the undying is SEVERAL times stronger than base undyne, and we all agree sans stands no chance.
edit: yall how many times do you think undying is stronger than base undyne? ingame stats the damage is like 4 and the hp is around 15, im thinking canonically its 50-100ish
I'll say It's a mixture of "Undyne was a little weak and distracted after some weak Sans attacks" but then was caught off guard by papyrus, I feel like that should count as a betrayal kill as it was a attack from her back and she wasn't expecting it
TLDR, Sans is getting his ass handed to him due to the sheer stat difference, Papyrus tries to break out the fight before he dies and accidentally kills Undyne who likely didn't expect the attack
@@raysomethingsomething honestly not expecting an attack shouldnt be the same as a betrayal kill in this case, pretty sure its only if the opponent spares you, and i REALLY dont think papyrus could one shot undyne the undying even if she wasnt on guard. undying's bulk is ungodly and determination is straight up plot armor