EcoFlow Delta 2 for Overlanders | So Close to Perfect!
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- Why EcoFlow Delta 2 is different from others for overlanding and car camping? Can you ditch gas and go full electric at camp?
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0:00 Power Stations General
1:32 Why Delta 2 is Unique
5:08 Full Electric Camping
12:04 Power Station Limitation - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
[UPDATE for Car Charging] EcoFlow confirmed the reason my Toyota factory inverter didn't work was because the Delta 2 requires a pure sine wave with distortion rate 10% or less. They did not comment if this can be fixed by a firmware update. BUT! After quite a few of you suggested, I put together a pretty nice fast DC car charging setup. I have now fully replaced my secondary battery with the Delta 2. Check out the new video here: th-cam.com/video/s_-9vj-hF1M/w-d-xo.html
This is great! Now a legit game changer!
@@davidglenn1 Hey man, like I said in your other comment. I did not delete you comment and it was likely TH-cam content moderation. I have nothing to gain. Please feel free to repost your original comment.
Sweet dude.
Any updates on this issue?
Awesome video - as usual.
By the way, right now the Delta 2 is only 549 on amazon - they have a 250 dollar instant coupon. The lowest I've ever seen it.
I am in no way affiliated with ecoflow or any other commercial enterprise - just a fan of a great deal.
I've probably spent 50+ hours watching reviews of different power stations trying to cover the evaluation you did in this video, and no one else actually does a good job of weighing the real world trade offs between electric, traditional power, form factor, charge rates including the Toyota inverter hack, all the things you take into account here, absolutely brilliant!
What a great comment. I agree. 🙌🏻
EcoFlow just released an alternator charging solution! 800 watts 🎉 Looks like a really slick solution.
Just pulled the trucked on this for my truck camper 🤘🏽
First time viewer and very impressed! Very nice, clean and efficient presentation. I just got my first portable power station with the newly released EcoFlo River 2 as a car camping base source of power for my electronics.
Now you have put this in my head. Very compelling video. I hope they do find a work around for the inverter problem but as I’ve watched other power station channels, the pure sign wave output is highly prized within that community.
Hey, great, simple but very clear explanation on the features, benefits, and some limitation.
Most TH-camrs are not very good story tellers, I watched yours all the way to the end.
Thanks for posting a great vid!
Thank you for this deep review. This is a video that is needed that almost no one does. THANKS!
My, Dude. I'm glad I came across your channel - I've learned a lot in a mere 2 videos and you make me chuckle uproariously.
This is the best camping/overlanding-centric assessment of not just a power station, but practical use of gear. I started with a 500Wh Bluetti, went to a 1200Wh CTECHi, and am now running a 1920Wh Pecron (which is so efficient, it's comparable to power stations larger than 2000Wh!). As we brought more modern conveniences with us to the outdoors, we needed more power. Roughing it by myself is one thing, but getting my family to "rough" it also didn't last long so I needed a way to keep the experience enjoyable for everyone. And no one should discount the convenience of a microwave! 😆 Fitting the larger power station was a challenge, but my rig is always overstuffed anyways.
We still use propane stoves as it's nice to be able to roast marshmallows without a campfire.
Man, I enjoyed this review. Great all-round delivery. What’s truly exceptional is that you’re one of a few vloggers who realize that their audience watches from all corners of the world … thus, awesome thinking to share metric and imperial measures 👍 Safe and happy off-roading. New subscriber from Dubai 😜
You nailed this one and gained a subscriber. I dry camp our Airstream for weeks at a time, using a Ecoflow Delta Max with two extra Smart Batteries. We use all of the appliances in your video, as well as the built in furnace and large refrigerator. I do have 600W of solar on the roof, but I too was disappointed to discover that the 400W inverter in my truck was not pure sine wave to satisfy the Ecoflow charger. Glad that you highlighted this issue. I’ve spoken with Ecoflow about this, but received no optimism that it could be changed.
Use a 400W AC-DC charger and you'll be fine.
Is there a different brand/battery that does allow u to leverage the 400watt anytime mod? I did the mod thinking this would work. Glad I watched your video before buying delta 2.
Thank you so much for posting this video. I boat camp with my 24 foot sailboat and has wanted to get away from propane stoves. I believe this could last for a weekend of camping on the lakes I sail.Heating the cabin in the morning when it's flipping cold would be amazing! All the best
Bro… Your videos are (as the the kids would say), FREAKIN FIRE! Seriously man, you’re on point!
I’m not an overlander, but having a travel trailer, our electrical needs are similar. Very useful video, thanks
I have the Delta Max, the form factor was one of the reasons I went with it. Everything is in the perfect place for where I have it in my vehicle. I currently have it set to only charge to 75% to protect the cycle count. In the future I will swap to something with Lifepo4.
Great video. Very informative. I stumbled across your channel because I am also an FJ and LC 200 owner. Love the idea of going electric for winter camping. I didn’t like having an open flame inside my iKamper. This indeed is a game changer. Greetings from Las Vegas, NV.
Thank you, good to see someone finally did this review. I’ve been looking for a way to use electricity to boil water, throwing in the space heater was an added bonus for me. This will be my elk camp set up next year.
This was an awesome video. Super detailed while still being easy to understand. Well done
Thank you! Practical applications always help individuals new to solar setups.
Thank you for your perspective. I was worrying it is just another commercial video, but the financial angle you’ve provided was variable.
I am very impressed with your channel. I find information that is clear, concise, with the best available solution given the current technological options. Best regards from New Mexico.
Thanks so much for the review I’m now even closer to pulling the trigger on this. Your review has definitely answered my questions and your set up looks awesome. Greetings from Scotland 🏴
Thanks for the code!! I used it today.
I'm a jeeper and an RV'er.. I first got the River Mini.. and didn't keep it long. Then months later I bought the Delta. More power and options, but no BT or wifi. :( still have it and also own a Delta 2 with 2 spare batteries. I use it at home almost daily lately. So.. it was time to try the 12v DC stuff.. So I got a few RoadPro 12v items.. Hot Plate, personal roaster, 12v and the beverage heater. Works great for them. Can't wait to use it when I go Jeep camping this summer.
Love the attention to detail in you vids. Keep it up. 👍
Nice job. Well written and delivered.
We have an over landing group who does 11 trips a year, one is 10 days. Two years ago, we switched to all electric because fire seasons are getting longer, we had a couple of times when sudden gusts blew over our propane stoves, and none of us want explody propane vessels in or on our vehicles. The first year was rough. The second year was quite good. We cook for 8-12 people on a trip using a kettle like yours and a double burner induction cook top with extra large inductors. Don’t get the small or normal inductors or you will only cook in the middle of the pan. We also run Starlink.
Our setup in a vehicle is 2x200amp batteries charged off the alternator with cables run from the engine to the back of our vehicles connected with a red Anderson connector. We also have two 100w solar panels for the days we don’t drive. Gray Anderson connectors connect to a 3000w inverter. We found that 2000w inverters work for a little while. But the overhead of 3000w gives the overhead for everything to work well. By standardizing, we can swap elements from one vehicle to another when something doesn’t work and for troubleshooting. It also helps when I choose a different vehicle of my own for a trip. I still prefer cooking over fire for sure. But I would rather go on more trips than miss out or potentially cause a fire.
Thank you. The fire season is a good point. I'm on the East coast, so most of the time it was a struggle to even start a camp fire lol.
So close.... Exactly what I have been looking for, use my Tacoma to charge. Not yet I guess. You are ALWAYS looking out for us, thanks so much for your great content and evaluation. Many blessings may come your way 🙏
Thanks! Check out my pinned comment for latest update. Fast car charging is now achieved!
Your always very informative thank you so happy I ran into you. Just started getting into over landing
Great Video Kai! Now I'm jealous I don't have one of these Delta 2's because I'm not one to judge using some electric creature comforts LOL. I caught a short screenshot from one of my videos at 7:28 ;). I'm honestly flattered that you've seen any of my stuff. Your content, scripting, production quality, presentation, and subtle humor is great and I'm sure you'll be wildly successful. Keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot Tom! Hope you saw the credit under your screen shot. Definitely, I watched a bunch of your videos. Learned a lot
Thanks for making this video. Love it. Recently got a Rivian R1S and it essentially has a built in 130,000 Wh battery for all the uses you highlighted here. Heating water for coffee, running a cooler, running an inverter stove for a meal will hardly scratch into it’s capacity that would be used for range. It will also keep the climate running all night while car camping, so no separate heater (or AC) would be needed. Mostly use this to get to great mountain biking locations.
Crazy to say I did see a Rivan on a offroad trail that I had to stop since I don't have a lift yet the Rivan just keep going. Only issue I have is I like to go out where there is no signal gas/jerry cans are a must to refuel. My question is what do you do to get out farther with out running out of battery? Can the Rivan be charged solar? Can a generator charge it? What would you do if you run out of power with no signal in the middle of a trail far from any paved road?
Wow, this, by far, is the best D2 video I've found. I bought the D2 with a bifacial 220W solar panel for 999 USD + another 50 buck off coupon. I live in Joshua Tree, and for 40 years, most of my camping is in the Mohave, so the solar panel works great. I can charge and use it at the same time. Most of my car camping trips are 2-3 days. I am thinking of getting a tear drop soon, and this will be fine. An extra battery would be nice. Great video, thank you!
Well done as always, great info.
Was on the fence about the Delta 2. But you just made the sale! Thanks.
Informative while also punctuated with humor. Thank you.
We use the EcoFlow Delta to power up dead Teslas at work. I've seen what they can do so I just bought one for when I go camping. Thanks for the fast car charging info. Subscribed.
Hello from Phoenix, Arizona! I don’t do any kind of camping at all but I think this video is great and amazing. I’ve been following Ecoflo for many years and I’m about ready to buy one just in case I have a power outage at home. I’d like to be able to keep my fridge running. I’m thinking I’m waiting until they come out with a third edition . I’m definitely glad I waited so when I get one, it will have the new Lipo 4 batteries. Thanks again for the great video and covering the electric blanket in the kennel and all that stuff. I have a kettle just like that I get a Costco it’s amazing.
Thanks so much for linking these dope
Products ! And also thanks for the insight nice stuff man
Thanks for these extremely helpful overviews!!
Wonderful video, keep up the great work! I'm definitely getting one of these!
Dude!! This was dope! As someone who camps, I appreciated the examples.
It’s a great video. Very informative, and it has a lot of potential for simplifying camping. The obvious reality is you must produce enough electricity everyday for this to work. It can be done, but clearly it is necessary. If you spend the day not driving, and under a tree canopy, this setup will not work very well at all. I enjoyed it. Thanks
Thanks for the link to the heated blanket.
Score!
Thank you for the review vids on the Delta 2. You reinforced my purchase after watching many other vids. Your vid was way more informative. Thank you brother. (For 05 Toy Sequioa, and my house)
Great video and solid points! Having an 1800W inverter is game changer. You can even run an instant pot!
Same issue with an APC UPS on modified sine inverters.
awesome review, some very interesting observations, definitely help me in making some decisions and plans
Excellent presentation !!!
Thank You.
Great review! The Delta 2 is a true game changer and has no real competition. Another game changer is the much smaller Bluetti EB3A with the 268 WH LiFePO4 battery and 600 watt inverter. I have both for different purposes. You can plug a 24 VDC 10 amp charger (cheap lead acid type is good) into the Toyota crappy wave inverter and charge the Delta 2 thru the solar charging input which allows you to charge the Delta 2 up from the alternator during a long drive
Cool idea! Didn’t think of that. Although not the most efficient but it is 100% plug and play! Thanks
Is this saying put a standard battery charger plugged into the bed inverter and use the XT 60 solar plug into delta products to faster charge?
@@Cabernet2000Yes, so use a standard 24 VDC or 36 VDC charger (12 VDC won't get you any benefit) and use the output to connect to the XD60 connector. Those can be used to plug into the crappy wave inverter in your truck bed.
excellent review. I do a lot of camping and have a diesel heater and portable fridge to charge, it manages both for a couple days.
Thank you for your video!
I continue seeing camping videos and the person has a solar generator and it only charges their video equipment, no cooking, no heating, & no recharging. I scream watching them boil water with their gas stove. My small silicone folding kettle @ 750W to boil 12oz/330 ml of water just takes 3.25 minutes or approximately just 50 wHr of power.
I also appreciate seeing usage rates for various electrical appliances. A heating pad is also helpful too.
I happen to have a Delta 2, OUPES 600, and cheap $100 solar generator. I have a small 45W 28L 12V fridge and my Ebike needs about 500wHr to refill it.
Thanks for sharing the silicone collapsible kettle idea. I hadn’t seen those 👍🏼
Great video excellent ideas on electric outdoor gear
Thank you so much for your video. You really talked about many of our electric needs while overlanding isn South America. Electric water cooker and heater are a big plus. I just wish i could order the Delta 2 in Colombia for a reasonable price. So far the shops that are selling it want double of what it can be bought in the US. If we find a reasonable priced way to get it, we are going to do an overlanding review with it too.
This is great. The microwave jokes at 11:00 cracked me up, too 😂
Another great video Kai! I ran into similar issues with my Ecoflow sweet of battery banks as well. I suspect it is more to do with the feature of being able to use these as back-UPS for your computer or sump pump (my case), so it can detect if something is wrong with the signal and switch to battery mode. It would be nice if you could disable this feature in the app and turn it on or off though!
I have been "overlanding" since 1998... and last year we added an air fryer with our honda generator. it was a game changer so much that many of my friends also got air fryers and 2000 watt inverters...( you can set your food in and walk away to chat at the campfire and not burn dinner!!)
thank you for doing this video... and check out the air fryer... ours has a sauce pan style basket so I can do soups and noodles too!!
Unfortunately, most air cookers user Teflon, so you're essentially putting poison into your body each time you cook.
Skeptical? DYOR
@@truestory923 Teflon is the least of peoples worries… look at the ingredients in your food and the medicine in your body.. worry about something more important than a non-stick coating
After the joke about cold sandwiches, I laughed out loud and immediately subscribed haha
Note that you could also use insulated blankets for your kettle and pan to boil faster
Excellent review
Extremely good review. cheers.
Great video as usual! Yeah power stations are definitely a game changer.
Your videos are great!
I have a delta 2, and it's the perfect battery for the weekend warriors, especially when it's compared to Goal Zero and the oversized Bluetti AC200P.
Another awesome video 🙂
Thank you sir, very informative and easily listened to
Excellent video - so is it’s follow up
Great video, great channel.
Great video. Agree with you on pretty much every very well thought out point. I went nuts and built my own LiFePO4 setup under my drawer system (removed the 3rd row seats). I ended up with 4,200 watt hours of power with two 170 ah renogy lifepo4 batts and victron/redarc/wagantech gear. It was time consuming, expensive but it fits perfectly. I don't think I would recommend my system to anyone unless they were a bit nutty like me and had the skillset to do it. The all in one units like you review are a better option for most people. If they can crack the charging speed issue they will be even more of an obvious choice. My setup could charge at 200 amps if I had the chargers for it, but I just use the redarc 50 amp DCDC and its plenty fast. No float charging means it just pumps in 50 amps till full and done. I also have a 25 amp victron shore power charger for the garage built in.
Electric 12v blanket is amazing for in-cab sleeping. I even have a little 200 watt 110v "office desk" space heater that I use. I haven't felt the need to do electric cooking because I like gas, but if you have the power why not.
Impressive setup! I was heading towards that route, adding more batteries, ports, inverters and building boxes to mount things. I just never had time to complete those projects.
Thanks for being so smart. I wish my electrician dad was still alive. We need to make adjustments to our truck camper and I am sure he would have fixed us right up. A lot of these discussions are over my head.
Great video.
I picked up an Ecoflow river 2 max to run my dometic fridge, and now you're making me wish I had gone bigger with the Delta 2!I. I think all electric is the way things will go in the future. 4Xoverland's latest troop build did just that. I too had the idea of charging my ecoflow from my OEM AC inverter in my grand Cherokee and I ran into the exact same issue you saw, the modified sine wave explanation makes a lot of sense. It may be easier to install an inexpensive 500w pure sine wive inverter than mess with a bunch of solar panels or fancy DC-DC charger.
imagine the ecoflow wave AC with the Delta2. 😂
Thanks for this video and your other Ecoflow vid. I'm not much into rock crawling and real overlanding as I just have an AWD 14 year old Honda Element, but I think the Ecoflow Delta 2 is right for me. I like that I can upsize this with the external battery once I can afford to buy a van that won't break down immediately once I get into the mountains😬. Based on your advice and a couple other sources, I bought it. (through your link). Hope you get the credit! I saw the advantage in electric blankets and electric water kettles (even tiny microwaves, gasp) when I lived on a boat, and I think this will allow me to so something similar when out on the road and away from shore power.
I appreciate the support! Nice, I have an 07 AWD EX. I pretty much drive it exclusively in the winter going to various ski resorts in the northeast. Love my Element.
Epic video man! I have a Novo shore power setup for top ups at night
We have the River Pro and ran into the same issue with the inverter built into my 4Runner not being able to charge it... Seems to work well enough on the cigarette lighter but I haven't done extensive testing. Great idea to use a kettle instead of a jet boil-I wish my Ecoflow could power one!
Just a note about LP appliances, learnt from a few years living beside a river I was dredging for gold, then many years of going camping nearly every weekend even after that. Ones that screw straight onto a bottle usually rely on a tiny restrictive hole to control the maximum gas flow so in cold weather and the gas pressure reduces drastically in really cold conditions plus, even after a short run of one of those small cartridge type disposable bottles, the gas being released will soon have ice forming on the outside dropping pressure even further so your stove or heater, just when you want the most heat is generally when you'll get the LEAST! Summer time, no worries bit especially in extreme cold conditions when you need that nice strong flame you got when you tested it at home where it was nice and warm, goes WAYYYYY down to a tiny one. If you use things like the big 9Kg bottles and a regulator, that will solve that issue BUT, you're going to need gear designed to run off that. I have a great 2 burner stove I take, or rather 'took' when camping but now I'm going to take an induction cooker, my electric kettle, a fan heater and possibly even a microwave, pretty much any appliance I use at home I can just toss in and use with my new setup that can deliver 4,000 Watts continuous, IF I needed that much, possibly welding something WHILE boiling the kettle and cooking dinner at the same time. I'm even considering a refrigerative air conditioner, just so I can get some sleep during our stinking hot summer nights, maybe lol.
Obviously I've invested a fair few dollars into LiFePO4 batteries and a heap of fold up sets of solar panels, around 1,200 Watts of them plus over 1,000 Amp hours worth of batteries and vehicle based alternative charging and 'may' possibly build a charging generator from a cheap Chinese made 5 to 7 hp engine spinning an ordinary alternator though it should hopefully take about a week of no sun weather before I even need to consider using something like it. I've only just got set up so pretty sure I've got much more power than I could need now, it's only later down the track IF I run anything like an air conditioner all nights I may need more ability to run even more power after the sun's gone down.
You nailed it again !!! Also many people don’t realize the DC to DC is way better than solar setup. After 480 watts of unreliable solar power.. dc to dc is the way to go !
after putting in my 4,200 watt hours of LiFePO4.. i removed my solar panels. Really no need when my alternator+redarc can charge at 50 amps.
If you drive a lot, sure.
It's no good if you are standing still (and idling is a no-go).
Good& useful content 👍
I have the bluetti ac200max but haven’t brought it out since it’s huge and heavy. This seems like a very good option
Excellent review, thank you
I am deciding between the Delta 2+Smart Battery or the Anker 767
The form factor of the Ecoflow is amazing and fits well, the cooling fan noise is quite loud, however, it is perfect for power tools like chainsaws and power saws to clear debris after a storm
Thank you for your time
Great demo. Thanks for going through these examples. It is definitely a game changer for folks like me that don't camp much as well as for my wife who is cold when it is below 60 degrees (I may be able to bring her around if I show her that electric blanket). How much wattage did the electric blanket use (sorry if I missed that)? And, yeah, I guarantee some folks would be bringing over their sammiches to heat up in the microwave! Hilarious.
Thanks! The maximum instantaneous wattage is 150W. But like I mentioned, it is not 150W constantly. This number is not useful to estimate run time, because you cannot simply use watt hour capacity divided by 150W. That's why I only included how much capacity I used for that particular condition.
I'm not an over overlander, but do "camp" at national/state parks in a squaredrop camper. I take my Keurig coffee machine, and ran it as needed while also running my 48qt fridge/freezer, and charging cell phones, and grandkids tablets. Last two trips I ran all of that from my Jackery 1500, but did need to recharge the Jackery a bit using a inverter generator. Next time, I'll be taking my EcoFlow Delta Max 2000. The grandkids will have a EcoFlow River 2 to charge phones, etc. I prefer the EcoFlow gear a lot more than the Jackery.
Buy a heat fan for your Mr buddy and it will spread the heat
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR ?. I don't use a Mr. Buddy heater.
@retnav92 I should have said and get a Mr. buddy heater. I apologize.
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR No problem. I do have a Mr. Buddy heater, but haven't used it for camping. I recently bought a diesel heater to use for late Fall chilly nights , but have yet to get it set up and rigged. Will be running one length of heater hose to the squaredrop, and one topside to the roof top tent where the grandsons sleep.
@retnav92 brother they definitely work and you can't go wrong with either option.
Awesome review as usual 👍 The Delta 2 is $2000 here so I ended up going with the Bluetti EB70 at under $1000 here. I use this in combination with my dual battery setup and charge it on the go on the go with a 24 volt step up transformer I made to charge at a full 200 watts while driving. The dual system charges both at the same time while driving. Lithium in general and with a 1000 watts inverter built in, its a game changer for me, I love my toast in the morning and electric blanket at night 😁 Totally agree on the form factor, the Delta 2 is so much better. Cheers and merry xmas.
yup. if you want to forego the nice features like automatic cutoff, smart voltage/ignition sensing, bluetooth monitoring, and etc, a simple dc to dc power supply aka step-up/boost converter board is only like 30 bucks. then just get some conformal coating, some fuses, a relay, a project box, a switch, and some wires and you can hotwire your own pretty cheaply and reliably. 🥰
@@styledliving Not a clue what your point is?
@@1Coolbanana I'm agreeing with your choice to charge it with a simple Step Up Converter esp since it's a cheaper solution than using a DC-DC charger like a Victron or RedArc model. I also outlined the ideal option, in terms of components, to wire up the step-up converter safely. Other youtubers might mistakenly forego certain safety items like relays and fuses.
Regarding the 1500 watt hot water kettle. You might want to look at Hotpot’s. Specify, I use a Zojirushi Model No. CV-JAC40 which uses 120 volts, and 930 watts! Combine that with a true vacuum storage container (4 Liters) and a setting to cut off the heating just before boil, with several settings for final water temperature, and a timer for overnight. You end up with very low power usage, long storage times & a solution to avoid condensation. Not to mention safe operation because the surface temperature of the pot is cool to the touch due to the vacuum bottle storage.
In fact I’ve always used that hotpot as the standard when judging which power station solution I would consider.
Looks like we have a match!
Oh my gosh about spit out my breakfast when you said I’m not saying I will within you rolled out that microwave and then you topped it off by saying you’re going to ask me to heat up your cold ass sandwiches. Now that is funny. I doubt I would personally bring a microwave either but you know what you made an excellent point about tapping into these other areas and getting rid of the camping or over landing tax. You can use things that are so much safer quieter, and more efficient. I never even considered the overall reach of the unit as you’re planning out here. Great video.
Thanks!
Thanks David!
All you have to do is buy two 36V scooter packs with xt60 connection that can also be charged via arc or cigarette charger. Works well in a pinch. I carry them when I go camping.
I have the Delta 2 with the extra max battery. Starting with a fully charged Delta2, I was able to camp overnight with the using the RV heater and keep my truck battery charged while using WIFI to watch movies, etc with just enough leftover to make 2 pots of coffee in the morning before connecting to my Honda 2200i generator in the morning to recharge and provide power throughout the day wrapping up with a fully charged Delta2 to run overnight. My camping area had a quiet time between 9pm and 8 am. I have even tested running my air conditioner on just the Delta2 and it started and ran just fine, albeit for short time.
If you take the power wiring behind the toyota 400W inverter and wire it into a step up boost converter, you can take the full 400W on the DC solar port. You will have to boost it from 12V to at least 30ish volts as the DC charge port is limited by amperage (it cannot process higher than about 15A.. so 15A at 12V is about 180W, 15A at 24V=360w, 15 at 36V=540w)
You also get the benefit that whenever charging through that solar port that power passes directly through the load. That is not the case when it is plugged into an AC outlet, as when AC is supplied, the inverter and battery will not supply the load. So for your fridge, plugged directly to a DC output port of the ecoflow, the 400w from your vehicle can feed whatever the fridge needs and the extra stored.
Great points. Thanks!
He makes some pretty good points.
Thank you👍
Have you considered using a 400 watt DC-DC converter to boost the 12vDC from your car battery to 24vDC for your solar generator? The higher DC voltage plugged into your solar panel input on the sogen allows it to charge at a higher rate, 200 plus watts or more.
Just saw this while doing some research about EcoFlow products, awesome information! EcoFlow did finally come out with an awesome alternator charger that works with the Delta 2 that offers 800w alternator charging for the units. The alternator charger will also maintain your vehicles starting battery too so I think this may now be suitable for longer trips and more back country off-grid type stuff. Would love to hear your input on this and possibly a revisit of this video with the new product.
I have the River Pro and it charges fine on my Ram’s AC outlet. I recently bought a 110v 0.8L kettle that uses 800watts. Can bring the water to a rolling boil in 5min 50sec at 800 above sea level.
Nice. Sounds like RAM didn't cheap out on the inverter like Toyota
F150 power boost with the 7.2 kw generator. Field electric power solved. I ran mine in generator mode after hurricane Ian running two full sized refrigerators ten hours a day, charging people’s devices, coffee pot and hot plate for six days and only used one quarter tank of gas. (I have since added the 240v external plug to my electrical panel so now I can run the whole house except the AC.)
You can use a DC DC 12v to 24v 10A and you double the watt for charging the ecoflow per DC
You do excellent reviews 😊😊😊
As usual you have done some real testing rather than spec comparisons.
The side cable for expansion seems a bit of an afterthought.
Shame on the lack of dc-dc but then it is pretty good.
Technically, the solar charger is a DC input, 11-60VDC at 15A max and MPPT so it can handle a swing in terms of voltage.
DC DC charging is possible being directly run to the alternator/starter battery (180Watt max), but you'd either:
a) want to use an ignition coupled relay to shutoff the circuit after the engine's off and/or add a timer so it starts charging after the vehicle has been running for at least 30 minutes (to give preferential charging to the starter battery)
or
b) use a DC-DC charger like the Victron Orion 12/24 (12v input, output 24v at 15A [360Watt max])
DC-DC Charging gives the added benefit of being able to use any load that the EcoFlow Delta 2 is capable of handling w/o the worry about tripping the circuit feeding the AC side.
Probably could have gone my entire life without knowing about your “charging during a number two”. 😊
Excellent analysis and presentation.
For the last section, I agree that a 1200+ watt pure sine wave inverter is defeating the plug and play boxed advantage. It's also going to bring the cost up since a quick peak on amazon shows it costing ~$200+.
Plus with the 12V DC -> 110V AC -> 4.2V? DC conversions going on I'm sure there are efficiency losses although it might simply be powerful enough to make up the difference.
A hard wired 12V DC that can fast charge would really sell me on this, even if I have to wire in an Anderson Powerpole or similar to the car to do it.
styledliving in the comment mentioned a DC-DC charger like Victron Orion 12/24 is a good hardwired charging option. The Delta 2 would basically think it is a solar panel and handle the power automatically. Yeah using an inverter will have more loss. The Delta 2 internal cells are actually 51.2V DC according to the tag under the unit. Pretty interesting.
Great video! Great points! I have an FJ as well and this was my exact limitation also! Unfortunately (and maybe also fortunately), mine didn’t come with the stock 100W/400W inverter, so I had always wanted to install an inverter anyway. I ended up wiring in a 1,000W pure sine inverter, and now I can charge as fast as 500-600W while driving between destinations. Additional cost aside, I think it was definitely worth it to make up for this limitation.
@@TinkerersAdventure at first I thought the solar input on the EcoFlow wouldn’t support much more current than the “cigarette lighter” but it supports 15A. So if the 24V charger can push that much current from the 400W anytime outlet, that’s 360W … pretty good. I still use 12V plus propane for camping out of my Tacoma but we also have a propane-free van with 2kW AC and induction cooking, electric coffee maker etc is a game changer. As a retired ME I think your fact-based videos are great; but perhaps some more Tacoma content. We have a unique situation for rear suspension vs the FJ/T4R/Prado platform since we need to balance articulation, ride and load capacity and do that with leaf springs. Thanks!
I need my cold ass sandwich heated up. 😆 🤣 😂
that line caught me off guard 😂😂😂😂
Dash has allot of cool cooking stuff like mini toaster oven that uses only 500 watts.
Great review; I'm not a camper but lots of applicable stuff. I do have a question, knowing there is a built- in solar controller can I get a 24v Li-Ion battery and plug it into the solar connector? Then if I add a controller can I hookup my solar panels to the external batteries?
For car charging via AC, maybe look at replacing your oem with something like a Morningstar pure sine wave inverter. In reality though, at 400 watts it starts getting loud with the fans running so it may not be worth it anyways. I'm going to stick with the car charger for now and see if it would make sense.
Dude! Great video, I searched your page for a rig breakdown video and couldn't find one, I wanna know more about your packout setup, that what I've been trying to setup lately
Thanks! Great idea. I'll make one!