I have both. I prefer the handling on the XT5, but the Nikon AF, low light and manual focus features are superb. I’m still undecided as to which is better for me. Lastly, I find the IBIS to be better on the Nikons.
To be honest, if the nikon had been released a few years back I would have gone for it snce you can use it with the Sigma I-series prime lenses which are very compact, sharp, light, have aperture rings and look very beautiful (plus voigtlander, thypoch, etc). My only gripe with the nikon zf is the lack of a joystick and the stupid flippy screen (yes screw you video people =p). BTW the best thing about the zf besides IQ is the way MF works, it should become the standard in all new cameras regardless of brand!
Zf for me. Works properly and with every vintage 35mm lens ever made without cropping them. Second reason it’s much more well made and feels much higher quality in hand. I loved the X-Pro 2 and owned it for four years. The later Fujifilm cameras are not as nice as the XT2/Xpro2 generation. The fujifilm pasm set up is easier to understand in the beginning, but the Zf layout is actually more powerful once you get used to it.
Also I think Nikon should have removed the grip entirely, rather than the F3 style lip. I think the lip is confusing people on how to handle it. It needs to be handled like a Leica M or old SLR camera. None of them had grips - you hold them with your left hand. I’m happy Fuji moved away from the ugly grips with the XT line, since they have the XH now. But wish they could remove it entirely and make it nicer quality with a proper metal build.
I think the absence of grip would feel more comfortable on the Fuji than on the Zf but I still prefer having some level of grips for comfort. There is a reason why this design has been adopted over the years imo.
@@lorseyjones4807 you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about! Every body have different editing styles! Sometimes FuJifilm looks overly saturated? That doesn’t even make any sense I could say the same for Nikon or Sony or canon. Enjoy your camera and keep it moving. I shoot with an XT3 I am getting work by word of mouth because of the photos I take with my XT3. You can make amazing photos with most cameras these days, so that comment from you doesn’t make any sense 😂
ZF wins hands down...Full Frame, Faster Autofocus, Better Dynamic Range PLUS you can literally mount every popular brand lens on it (with adapter) and it will autofocus like a champ
The one BIG problem with this comparison is the Zf has better capabilities in most ways than even the XH2/XH2s. As you mentioned it has the same processor & technologies as Z8/Z9 with slightly less capabilities in some ways, more in others. It only resembles the XT5 in looks / layout and with better build quality. You can also adapt any FF lens to the Zf, use 3D eye tracking with manual lenses and even give them autofocus capabilities with an adapter. This is HUGE. Literally any vintage lens on this camera will complete “the look” if that’s what you’re going for. Micro SD is as fast as SD, just keep it in camera to use as internal storage... and let’s be real, BOTH of these cameras need the extra grip lol. Personally I’m selling my XT-3 and 5 lenses for the Zf with 3 lenses (maybe 4) to do the same job, reducing my overall kit. Nikon has better wide / mid range zooms and smokes Fuji in telephoto options. The only reason to go with Fuji at this point is if you need an absolute minimal kit for street / travel / portraiture. Even then, F4 on FF provides the same DOF as f2.8 on APSC, so that may not even be true. Loved the Fuji for the past 5 years but it’s time to switch for me. Lost way too many great action / pet / wildlife shots and Fuji just can’t seem to catch up in that department. Also have no need / desire for 40 megapixel images eating up memory cards & RAM. Zf looks like the best value on the market right now. Nikon f1.8 lenses are just as good as Fuji f1.4/1.2 lenses at a lower cost and they’ll probably make more compact lenses to match this body… I sure am gonna miss those aperture rings tho. For now.
Give the 40 a chance. Don’t bother with f2 … same issue as Fuji 23 f2 as it’s soft wide open. Z 40 at f4 to f7 (peaks in this range per Lenstip). 40 grows on you. I returned my first one. Now I have 2 copies. I actually returned the Z 50 1.8 as I use my 40 so much.
Depends. Nikon Z lenses are all really big and heavy. They do not have any f4 lenses that rival the offering of Fujis f2.8 lenses, especially third party ones like the Sigma 10-18 or 18-50. Don't forget you get the same bokeh as 2.8 on APSC but you still lose a stop of light. They do have some nice zooms but they are often repackaged old Tamron lenses at double the price, Sony has superior zooms by a wide margin. The new 35 1.4 is super interesting though, even if it's a bit soft, shouldn't be a huge issue. Then the Zf has worse video capabilities, such as an 1.5 crop in 4k60, basically killing the 4k60 feature entirely. 6k30 & HD240 is also missing. I also disagree that you need an extra grip, the XT-5 grip is way better than the Zf, especially because it has that little body extension for your thumb on the back. And then you have the option (!) to use 40mp and crop a lot, thus saving more weight & money for lenses. If you want smaller sizes, you can adjust the size of the image at any time via the quick menu. So overall, I'm very tempted to get the Nikon, but the package as a compact hybrid camera isn't quite there yet, it probably needs a mark 2 and a good 3 years of lens development. If they make this smaller, add the 45mp sensor & proper video features, catch up on the ergonomics, and extend their new compact f1.4 and f2 line-ups, it will become really interesting.
If you hold the ZF properly it’s okay without the grip. You have to hold it like a film camera, middle finger parallel with the grip line, other hand under the lens. The small rig grip definitely helps but with big glass, it’s certainly challenging. Also, ZF manual focus tools when adapting glass is far superior on the ZF. Also provides a more retro aesthetic.
After shooting Zf & X-T5 side by side for months I’m selling off my Fuji gear (I’m casual.. not a pro) and going with Zf. I’ll keep an X-E2 around for Fuji fun. My biggest takeaway from comparing shots with them is 1. AF of the Zf BLOWS the X-T5 away. It isn’t close. 2. Dynamic range and ‘balance’ of tones from the Zf consistently blew the X-T5 away. X-T5 consistently wanted to overpower a scene with light while Zf managed much better range of shadows & highlights in an image.. often leading to better color retention.
@@mr02gixxer1000Yup. I have countless test and not-test shots where X-T5 blew sections of the scene out while the Zf managed MUCH more balance. AF on the Zf is A7IV good.. and that is WAY better than the X-T5.
@@TCinSoCal In what scenario did the XT5 blew out the scene? Are you shooting in manual With both the cameras? What were the settings? For both cameras? What were you shooting? What were the light conditions? Did you see the areas that were blown out Throughout the view finder? Before you took the shot? And if so did make the necessary adjustments to keep that from happening?
@@mr02gixxer1000 dynamic lit conditions. Shot both how I shoot ..mainly A mode often 1/3 under. I have made a video on my comparison of these cameras as well as a video on samples. The Fuji was so far off the Zf I would have to underexpose by a stop with the Fuji.. then try to recover shadows. It was not a scientific comparison.. it was a real life use comparison. I didn’t borrow these cameras to make a video just to make one.. I own and have been vested in both systems.
@@mr02gixxer1000I am not a YT pro.. I share experiences. If anyone knows a better way to make a video comparing images/stills I’m listening. I struggled with getting full images in landscape and portrait to show well on video.
I was shopping between these 2 and chose the Zf. It mostly came down to build quality and the fact that I can easily adapt all of my e-mount lenses on it. If you're already invested in Fuji, it would not make sense to switch.
@@danielvilliers612 I love Fuji.. have shot them for about a decade.. but I also love amazing colors from Nikon. Love the Z6ii but left it as I wanted VERY good AF/eye detect. Zf has that so I came back. I will always keep one or two Fuji bodies around for fun though.
How long did you use the Nikon ZF? The battery is not that bad; you can take a lot more photos than the CIPA ratings say. I've been using both cameras for months. The IBIS on the ZF is better, and the lack of a joystick is not a problem because the ZF has so many autofocus options that you didn't talk about.
Unfortunately I did not get to use it too long, a little less than 2 weeks. It could be the battery that I got also but from my tests, the ratings were pretty accurate. For the IBIS, as mentioned in the video, I did not test it extensively but in the videos that I took I noticed a lot of movements that were very harsh.
True. I have 2 batteries and that’s good for 600 - 700 shots. Plenty for me. You are so right about the AF modes. I use BBF to stick/track in 3D, basic square and Auto Area with eye detect is as good as the A7IV. Sitting in a bagel shop with my boys today was so nice to just toss in AF-C/Auto area with eye detect and just compose with green square locking on an eye. Goofing around in a dark room with AF-C .. it will work its ass off to focus in VERY low light.. just keeps trying and often gets it.
I belive you missed a big point for Nikon. Capability to use vintage lenses like on any other camera; eye detection in manual focus mode ( ofc) ans those "+ " "-" buttons comes very handy. I belive if you want 1 camera for every weekend to shoot pics and video Fuji XT is an awesome choice but with ZF you get more capabilities: autofocus, video, use a travel camera or ad a backup camera for your existing pro kit. Untill now got hammered because no tilting screen, now now they have...you find people complaining about too 😁. Overall good and balanced review.
Z 40mm f2 on the Zf is a blast and it’s as good, or better, than the Fuji 27 2.8.. and the Fuji 27 is my second favorite Fuji lens behind the 33 1.4. I would never want to use the 24-70 2.8 on the Zf.. that’s for the Z8/Z9/Z6/Z7. I have the f4 version but rarely use it. I bought the S 50 1.8 but returned it as I don’t need razor thin DoF .. the rendering of the 40 is very nice.
@@ThierryGibraltait isn’t. it performs the exact same function… and performs it well. We appreciate that you made this video.. but don’t get upset when we can tell you spent very little time with at least one of the cameras.
@@ThierryGibralta fair that it isn’t for you. I used to loathe the finger swipe to focus.. tried it on many Fuji.. but it’s implemented very well on the Zf. I’m not a sports photographer but I often use the screen to get my square close then finish with a few clicks of d-pad. Another option is to lock focus on a spot/object with AF-C/3D and then compose.. no joystick needed. The AF options are well thought out by Nikon.. and that’s NOT something I said about the Z6ii. Heck.. the C boxes often come in useful when subject can be somewhere in a vertical or horizontal ‘line’ area.
2:45 I’ve been using the Zf outside in sunny California for months now and use the aperture display every single day. I’ve not had issues seeing it. I like it.
4:25 the implementation of using your thumb to drag focus point with Fuji has never been great for me. It’s very smooth with the Zf. I’ve been shooting these two cameras side by side for months.
Thanks for the comparison, I haven’t test the zf, but just seeing you describe both camera it makes a lot of sense. I had are brands of cameras,Nikon,Sony,Canon and none of those give me the experience that Fuji gives me
How odd that when I was young and cameras were metal, heavy and had no extended grips, we had no problem holding them. Nowadays almost every TH-cam presenter claims the camera is almost unusable without an accessory grip and is constantly in danger of slipping out of their hands. What utter nonsense. These presenters are like sheep, one says it is going to slip, so they ALL say it is going to slip. This is bandwagon stuff and not real reviewing. And I speak as someone who used a lot of old cameras and currently owns an X-Pro2, X-T2, X-T3, X-T4,, X-T5, X-H2 and two Nikon Zfs.
I held both cameras. If you use a neck strap it is not a concern, but if you use a wrist strap, both cameras will tire your hand out quickly but zf is gonna be quicker. Both of them have shallow grip compared with other dslr style cameras. No disrespect but what I can only say is that things improve over time. Just like you are using a modern computer/phone but not a DOS system computer to leave this comment
Maybe things evolved as well you know. Maybe the design you had decades ago is not as good as the design that took decades to evolve and be finalized. Maybe that’s why the current design got adopted. I don’t say it slips because other people say so, I say it slips… because it slips… just my experience with it. But hey. I am just a guy on TH-cam making videos. You have your opinion and I respect it. Just respect the fact that I share mine. Cheers
OMG to the OP.. you’ve read my mind. Granted grips are nice and I respect the reviewer but for literally a century nobody complained or cared about this. When I shoot on my Nikon FE I use radical inventions like a wrist strap and my left hand, to cradle/secure the camera.
@@samuelyu5168 Yes, but this is the ... pleasure of going back retro. At least in Nikon line you have cameras that have proper grip, that is not even the halfway grip of the fuji. Secondly, those wrist wrap are super impractical as it blocks the use of your main hand and grip of no grip, it tires your hand. While, their is a simple solution called a neck strap.
Yup. It’s big beefy brick and it’s glorious. I shoot with the Zf every single day. I’ve owned every X-T, every X-E, every X-H and every X100 except the S. OP lost me with the aperture being worthless .. I love it. I ACTUALLY USE it.
10:30 low light can be in a room where there isn’t good lighting. Most people don’t shoot in studios or optimal lighting. My son’s have a downstairs room with horrible lighting that not only ramps up the ISO but f’s with AWB. FF is a blatant advantage here. .. I am a huge Fuji fan.. I’ve owned every version of the X-T. I still own the X-T5.
So you take photos in horrible lighting? What kind of photographer takes photos in horrible lighting? Full frame or APS-C doesn’t matter good lighting is always a must for proper photography! I would say if you want to take photos of your son room that has poor lighting then use a flash, even for full frame cameras! Taking photos in the dark doesn’t make any sense!! You are doing photography wrong you should always look for good lighting! Also you can adjust white balance for most color lighting pretty much!
@@TCinSoCal no sarcasm here just challenging your argument on low light and the example you gave of your sons room with poor lighting! A good photographer always seek out proper lighting to make photography! And if you can’t find good lighting then you either don’t make the photo or introduce a more acceptable form of lighting to the scene! The argument about full frame vs APS-C though full frame lets more light! Doesn’t mean that you are going to create great images in low light! Yea you can get away with it and it might be usable but not great. And if i introduce say my XT5 to the same situation with the intention to get great results i will do what it takes to make sure the lighting is acceptable. At the end of the day the goal is to come away with great results! Right? That’s why the full frame vs APS-C doesn’t make sense to me must of the time because you can always add light from say a little pocket flash or led to strobes etc depending on the situation! The agreement that I am trying to make is you can make great photos with mostly any cameras these days! If you know what you are doing.
@@mr02gixxer1000 This is an alternate reality that many.. I might say most photographers don’t live in.. no one is not taking shots because they don’t have perfect lighting. If someone wants to take a candid moment of their kids/family.. they don’t pause to ask them to move to better lighting or bring in lighting.. I have shot like this for over a decade..
For me you missed out the biggest feature - it is 7 custom modes each in photo and movie mode. That has been a game changer for me over the X-T4, and even over the X-H2S and X-H2. The Nikon does not have that at all.
They are both great cameras, as I have an XT2 I will upgrade to the XT5. Decisive for me is the overall size with lens and the price, here the XT5 has an advantage. I don't think I could see much difference in my photography (street/landscape). The autofocus is definitely better, but as I don't shoot sports/wildlife/portraits I don't notice the difference.
The main place you would see difference in street shooting would be in highlight retention SOOC & better dynamic range. For architecture this is a big deal…more distinct lines, angles..
I have both and they're great. I bring both for travel. I have adapted my Sony lenses to the XF. The Nikon ZF is the fullframe version of the XT5 for photography and that is it.
Nikon Zf is a beast but one thing is missing; film simulations! No camera brand is close to beating Fujifilm when it comes to colour science. If shooting JPG is included in your work, Fujifilm can give more options. Back in the days and up until now, it's not really the number of megapixels or size of the sensor that matter. It's the colour. Way back, film stock brands compete against each other using their unique colours. Photographers today battle it out using their presets. It's still colours that is the point of contention.
No one and especially pros/prosumers care about film simulation and that can be seen by the market share fuji has. What most people care about is better dynamic range, better low light performance and better auto focus. In all 3, ZF is literally crushing the XT-5.
@@emmanouiltzavidas9119 those factors are useless if the colours and composition/storytelling is lacking in a camera and in the photographer himself. Size sensor, megapixel count, and better autofocus capabilities only add up a little to the photographer's skills and creativity. It will always boil down to the colours and composition/storytelling. And Fujifilm does better in those departments. And I disagree that pros/prosumers do not care that much about film simulations or colours. Because colour is very important in a photo. Majority of consumers do not care about the gear features a creative artist have in his disposal. All they care about is the look and feel of themselves in the photos. If you have the latest gears but lack creativity in colours, composition, and storytelling, you will not get a number of clients as much as those photographers who do not have that high end gears yet bountiful in creativity.
Leica, Haselblad and Nikon all have superior color science than Fuji. Fuji’s colors aren’t accurate. If you want over baked jpegs, then Fuji. If you want the most accurate baseline, the above brands are incredibly better.
Hope you can make an update on this comparison since Fuji just released a new firmware (3.01), improving especially in the auto focus department. Fuji's AF has improved after the update.
@@ThierryGibralta ty so much. I just got the XT5 less than a week ago and done the update so I have no idea how much it improved. Sub to your channel. Ty
@@ThierryGibralta If I need both Fujifilm and Nikon, I will choose XT-5 with several lens such as 23, 33, 56 and 16-55 for snapshots and my family. I only bought one lens for Nikon camera which is Z 180-600mm for bird photo. Then you feel two systems.
For me it's because I also like to golf, ride motorcycles, eat out, go on vacations, etc. Oh yeah, also because as a hobbyist it would make absolutely no sense to waste extra money. Those are my reasons. :)
When you compare weight you need to compare apples to apples. If you want same light capability and DOF you would need to compare a Fuji XF23/1.4 to the Nikon 40/2. FF has about one stop better ISO and DOF of both lenses is same as the sensors have different sizes. Now the Fuji lense weighs 375gr and the Nikon 170gr. This equation left the Glas quality aside 😊
@8:51 great example is fujifilm's x-series getting rid of the exposure metering mode dial in favor of a stills/video toggle. In my opinion this is the worst decision fujifilm hasmade for their cameras to date, as I personally use the exposure metering dial on my xt3 every time I shoot.
YOu don't mention color. Nikon doesn't compete with Fuji on color SOOC (which is how I shoot). End of story because when I make prints, no one cares about the camera features, but they DO notice color and shaprness.
Dude your a photographer... on youtube making videos. Who is the ZF for... people who want one camera that can do it all. I see it. Like this you can judge for yourself. The XT5 is a street and travel camera. The Nikon is for landscape, events, product photography, portraits. Depends what sort of photography you most engage in. I would argue that they make a killer street and travel camera already in the X100V, and Nikon make better pro cameras fit for purpose. Both are fun, both feel special and for me it's not whether you use a nikon or a fuji, did you get the shots you wanted?
Just one addition: The price difference in real life is more pronounced. You can easily find X-T5s around the 1500- 1600, while the ZF is usually around 2300+ (without lens). Also, the weight question is tricky. An X-T5 with the popular 23mm 1.4 weighs just as much as an Zf with the 40mm F2. If been going back and forth with these and started comparing weights with different lens options and it depends a lot on the glass you put on them... (btw I'm looking for a camera that I simply enjoy. My actual work gets done by Sony which is very, very hard to beat for the money at the moment).
Having owned both and returned the ZF I feel that a lot of people will choose the ZF for the full frame reason, feeling they need full frame above anything else. There is a lot to like about the ZF but being FF should not be the most important spec as in the right hands makes zero difference and the aps-c Fuji system has lots of plus points.
100%, The size/weight of the camera to make this FF makes me not want to use it all day. The XT line of cameras is all about balance and Fuji do it perfectly.
The screen flipping to the side is a huge disadvantage for me :( .... some goes to my r5's ... I fckn hate this feature .... Fortunately, I use my r5's for work purposes where I rather use the evf ... I was thinking about ZF for my street photography, but this feature makes it a no-go for me.
You are supposed to hold the camera with the lens attached to it. Since old SLRs are manual focus, you always had to hold the lens while shooting. So the grip was not really an issue. Its a retro styleded camera, I dont understand people complaining so much about the grip. Just buy a Z6, Z8, Z9 Nikons if you want to grip. Let us enjoy the camera for what it is. You also have the option on buying a grip.
Bad grip for my right hand is still bad grip, even if I hold it with 2 hands... and no you don't always hold it with 2 hands. When you are moving around with it for example, it is nice to feel like the camera is secure in one hand. You are saying that I should not say anything about the grip because the camera is a retro style camera... but so is the X-T5... and the grip is just better imo. Hence the point. But again, just my opinion. Yes you have the option to buy a grip. But if you think like that then you should not complain about anything then, you always have the option to change it.
@@ThierryGibralta The camera was not meant to be like a DSLR. Have you see Leica M cameras, or the retro SLRs in the past? So you mean to say they need to build a grip just to compromise the styling of the camera. It's based on the nikon FM2. It supposed to me make compact without a massiv grip. The funifilm is APSC. It's lighter. I bet if the 2 cameras have the same weight you would complain about the lack of grip on the Xt5 aswell. You actually can't complain about the grip because you have other options within the Nikon line up. You either want retro styled or conventional digital camera. Camera looks amazing without a grip.
@@kristoffergo6294 yes if the cameras were the same weight maybe. The fact is they are not. And the XT5 has a grip so I don’t complain. Not saying they have to do anything. I just prefer the design with a small grip, which imo does not compromise the design (look at the XT5)
I think you need to approach this in a much more unbiased way. Every time you "gave the point" to nikon, you follow up with "but that does not mean that the Fujifilm can´t...". I find that peculiar.
Pour moi Fuji est devenu aussi cher que les autres marques avec l'abandon de l'entrée de gamme non bridée. Fuji est très bon mais je vois de plus en plus de gens switcher sur d'autres systèmes ce qui n'arrivait pas il y a quelques années. Fuji a encore de la hype surtout auprès des jeunes et ce sont de bons appareils mais pour moi leur stratégie est une erreur. Il suffit des voir les meilleures ventes d'appareils photos au japon en 2023, ce ne sont que des entrées de gamme et il n'y a pas Fujifilm En occasion, Fuji est aussi mal placé car les appareils comme Nikon sont beaucoup plus nombreux et donc beaucoup moins chers. Il est très facile de trouver un Z7 moins cher qu'un -X-H2 Pour la photo de rue je prendrai un X-T5, portrait/sport Z6 II ou Z-f, paysage Z7 plutôt que X-H2. Mais je suis plutôt photo si on inclut la vidéo cela sera encore différent
Grip is a non issue. It is retro for a reason. Large grip would render this camera ugly. Then you complain about the looks. But you says it looks good. And there is a good reason for it. So go get a grip.
Very genuine and fair comparison. Bon travail! I am hesitating between those two. One deciding factor for me anyway, is the tripod plate as I am using Peak design or Pgytech, both square plates. Does the plate need to be removed in order to change the battery? If yes, deal breaker for me as i do not like screwing/unscrewing the plate, especially when outdoors.
Just tested this for you. Was able to align plate on bottom of Zf to where I can drop/add a battery while it’s still on the tripod. Also, looks like the base plate on Zf for tripod mount is replaceable.
@@TCinSoCal thank you. Your video on ZF definitely swayed me away from the x-t5. Having owned a Sony a74, and now using Sony zv-e1, I am spoiled with AF. Even with new firmware, Fuji AF seems sluggish apparently. The reason i am not pulling the trigger on the Nikon yet, is i am not fond of the lenses. I like aperture rings.
@@skfoto if you need Sony level AF the X-H2S is very, very close.. and that shutter is blazing fast. I 1000% get the lens issue. I’m using the 40 mainly.. picked up an SE version. Thing is .. once you put the 33/18 1.4 on the X-T5 it’s also ‘bigger’. My next Nikon lens is likely the MC Z 105. It’s ridiculous. I have the Z 24-70 f4 but rarely use it. I’m mainly travel, casual, family shooter. I have considered grabbing an old Z7 for landscape shots.
Both great looking cameras! When Nikon announced the Zf I was very tempted to buy one, but I could resist until I could check the camera out at a local store - which was a pretty good decision. After a few minutes I decided not to buy the Zf. Too big, just two lenses that fit the style of the camera, weird implementation of PASM and dedicated wheels and - of course - the horrible flip out screen I already hate on my Lumix S5. The sensor on the other hand is great, the AF is brilliant and for someone who owns a Nikon FE2 the design is very appealing (although far too big compared to the FE2). But all in all I would opt for the Fuji if I would be forced to buy one of these two cameras. The “package” appears to me more well rounded. But I could understand if someone opts for the Zf. Technically it is a Z6II on steroids.
On every end of a statement/sentence you made about the Nikon, there is a "but". Event if the start is positiv. But never on a statement you did on the Fuji. I call this biased. The Nikon is a full frame camera, not the same ballpark as the Fuji. And the Nikon is capable of taking every glass, by adapters. Even doing autofocus with the techart adapter. With some very nice, old manual and cheap lenses. The Zf is the next step. The only full frame retro camera on the market. You've compared apples to pears.
@@ThierryGibralta Well, maybe there are Fujifilm fanboys outside, too. But anyway, APS-C vs full frame. Bananas vs apples. Both are great cameras. And I love my OM-1 for birds.
@ThierryGibralta I miss the dials and how fujifilm implemented it, I miss my small lenses, the film simulations and recipes i had saved, the rear dials and the command dials front and back felt like better quality than the Nikon, I miss the menu system and I miss that I could save 6 custom settings (if I remember correctly), I miss all the function buttons I was able to allocate and a big one is the screen, I did not realize how much I liked the tilting screen vs the articulating screen. It was a bad and expensive move... not worth it!
@@halgrynshaunthank you, your perspective is valuable for reasons I would likely encounter as well. I’m also very invested in the Fuji ergonomics and custom settings, not to mention Aperture rings, and would truly miss those.
@@chandanhegde9219 It is immediately apparent how much smaller the Fuji is, especially considering the lens options. The grip on the Fuji is much better than the Nikon with an additional small rig grip. Auto focus and iso performance is better on the Nikon, but not worth it for my use cases.
Under your logic, we should still be using the heavy metal telephones my grandfather used one day, or even the ones we used to hang on the kitchen wall with 50 yards of cord 😃iRespectfully.
If Nikon allowed its Japan only grip into the rest of the world and it launched a premium line of aperture ring primes matching the aesthetic then I would of kept mine and put up with its other quirks but it was returned to Nikon 😢
I can order the Japan only grip to anywhere in the world, as well as a choice of many other grips for this camera. I also knew that only two fashion matched lenses are available and there was no line of aperture ring lenses. Exactly why would you buy a camera knowing you wouldn't keep it? Just to say you returned a camera for reasons that you knew before you bought it?
Which one would you pick between the X-T5 and the Zf?
I have both. I prefer the handling on the XT5, but the Nikon AF, low light and manual focus features are superb. I’m still undecided as to which is better for me. Lastly, I find the IBIS to be better on the Nikons.
To be honest, if the nikon had been released a few years back I would have gone for it snce you can use it with the Sigma I-series prime lenses which are very compact, sharp, light, have aperture rings and look very beautiful (plus voigtlander, thypoch, etc). My only gripe with the nikon zf is the lack of a joystick and the stupid flippy screen (yes screw you video people =p). BTW the best thing about the zf besides IQ is the way MF works, it should become the standard in all new cameras regardless of brand!
@jaegerschtulmann Since i am running 3 different systems already i don't want to add another so the nikion
Nikon Zf, hands down. I sold most of my Fujifilm gear to switch over with no regrets
Zf
Zf for me. Works properly and with every vintage 35mm lens ever made without cropping them.
Second reason it’s much more well made and feels much higher quality in hand.
I loved the X-Pro 2 and owned it for four years. The later Fujifilm cameras are not as nice as the XT2/Xpro2 generation.
The fujifilm pasm set up is easier to understand in the beginning, but the Zf layout is actually more powerful once you get used to it.
Also I think Nikon should have removed the grip entirely, rather than the F3 style lip. I think the lip is confusing people on how to handle it. It needs to be handled like a Leica M or old SLR camera. None of them had grips - you hold them with your left hand.
I’m happy Fuji moved away from the ugly grips with the XT line, since they have the XH now. But wish they could remove it entirely and make it nicer quality with a proper metal build.
Why do you think the PASM dial layout is more powerful?
I think the absence of grip would feel more comfortable on the Fuji than on the Zf but I still prefer having some level of grips for comfort. There is a reason why this design has been adopted over the years imo.
ZF is what I own, I really don’t care about overly saturated photos and sometimes FujiFilm ‘s photos look overly saturated
@@lorseyjones4807 you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about! Every body have different editing styles! Sometimes FuJifilm looks overly saturated? That doesn’t even make any sense I could say the same for Nikon or Sony or canon. Enjoy your camera and keep it moving. I shoot with an XT3 I am getting work by word of mouth because of the photos I take with my XT3. You can make amazing photos with most cameras these days, so that comment from you doesn’t make any sense 😂
ZF wins hands down...Full Frame, Faster Autofocus, Better Dynamic Range PLUS you can literally mount every popular brand lens on it (with adapter) and it will autofocus like a champ
The one BIG problem with this comparison is the Zf has better capabilities in most ways than even the XH2/XH2s. As you mentioned it has the same processor & technologies as Z8/Z9 with slightly less capabilities in some ways, more in others. It only resembles the XT5 in looks / layout and with better build quality. You can also adapt any FF lens to the Zf, use 3D eye tracking with manual lenses and even give them autofocus capabilities with an adapter. This is HUGE. Literally any vintage lens on this camera will complete “the look” if that’s what you’re going for. Micro SD is as fast as SD, just keep it in camera to use as internal storage... and let’s be real, BOTH of these cameras need the extra grip lol. Personally I’m selling my XT-3 and 5 lenses for the Zf with 3 lenses (maybe 4) to do the same job, reducing my overall kit. Nikon has better wide / mid range zooms and smokes Fuji in telephoto options. The only reason to go with Fuji at this point is if you need an absolute minimal kit for street / travel / portraiture. Even then, F4 on FF provides the same DOF as f2.8 on APSC, so that may not even be true. Loved the Fuji for the past 5 years but it’s time to switch for me. Lost way too many great action / pet / wildlife shots and Fuji just can’t seem to catch up in that department. Also have no need / desire for 40 megapixel images eating up memory cards & RAM. Zf looks like the best value on the market right now. Nikon f1.8 lenses are just as good as Fuji f1.4/1.2 lenses at a lower cost and they’ll probably make more compact lenses to match this body… I sure am gonna miss those aperture rings tho. For now.
Give the 40 a chance. Don’t bother with f2 … same issue as Fuji 23 f2 as it’s soft wide open. Z 40 at f4 to f7 (peaks in this range per Lenstip). 40 grows on you. I returned my first one. Now I have 2 copies. I actually returned the Z 50 1.8 as I use my 40 so much.
It cannot give manual focus lenses autofocus with any adaptor.
@@bigd7696 if the manual focus lens has contacts it does give focus confirmation. A huge help.
@@bigd7696 who said “any adaptor” besides you?
Depends. Nikon Z lenses are all really big and heavy. They do not have any f4 lenses that rival the offering of Fujis f2.8 lenses, especially third party ones like the Sigma 10-18 or 18-50. Don't forget you get the same bokeh as 2.8 on APSC but you still lose a stop of light. They do have some nice zooms but they are often repackaged old Tamron lenses at double the price, Sony has superior zooms by a wide margin. The new 35 1.4 is super interesting though, even if it's a bit soft, shouldn't be a huge issue. Then the Zf has worse video capabilities, such as an 1.5 crop in 4k60, basically killing the 4k60 feature entirely. 6k30 & HD240 is also missing. I also disagree that you need an extra grip, the XT-5 grip is way better than the Zf, especially because it has that little body extension for your thumb on the back. And then you have the option (!) to use 40mp and crop a lot, thus saving more weight & money for lenses. If you want smaller sizes, you can adjust the size of the image at any time via the quick menu. So overall, I'm very tempted to get the Nikon, but the package as a compact hybrid camera isn't quite there yet, it probably needs a mark 2 and a good 3 years of lens development. If they make this smaller, add the 45mp sensor & proper video features, catch up on the ergonomics, and extend their new compact f1.4 and f2 line-ups, it will become really interesting.
If you hold the ZF properly it’s okay without the grip. You have to hold it like a film camera, middle finger parallel with the grip line, other hand under the lens. The small rig grip definitely helps but with big glass, it’s certainly challenging. Also, ZF manual focus tools when adapting glass is far superior on the ZF. Also provides a more retro aesthetic.
After shooting Zf & X-T5 side by side for months I’m selling off my Fuji gear (I’m casual.. not a pro) and going with Zf. I’ll keep an X-E2 around for Fuji fun. My biggest takeaway from comparing shots with them is 1. AF of the Zf BLOWS the X-T5 away. It isn’t close. 2. Dynamic range and ‘balance’ of tones from the Zf consistently blew the X-T5 away. X-T5 consistently wanted to overpower a scene with light while Zf managed much better range of shadows & highlights in an image.. often leading to better color retention.
AF and dynamic range of the ZF blows the XT5 away? It’s not a little bit better? It blows it away? 🙄
@@mr02gixxer1000Yup. I have countless test and not-test shots where X-T5 blew sections of the scene out while the Zf managed MUCH more balance. AF on the Zf is A7IV good.. and that is WAY better than the X-T5.
@@TCinSoCal In what scenario did the XT5 blew out the scene? Are you shooting in manual With both the cameras? What were the settings? For both cameras? What were you shooting? What were the light conditions? Did you see the areas that were blown out Throughout the view finder? Before you took the shot? And if so did make the necessary adjustments to keep that from happening?
@@mr02gixxer1000 dynamic lit conditions. Shot both how I shoot ..mainly A mode often 1/3 under. I have made a video on my comparison of these cameras as well as a video on samples. The Fuji was so far off the Zf I would have to underexpose by a stop with the Fuji.. then try to recover shadows. It was not a scientific comparison.. it was a real life use comparison. I didn’t borrow these cameras to make a video just to make one.. I own and have been vested in both systems.
@@mr02gixxer1000I am not a YT pro.. I share experiences. If anyone knows a better way to make a video comparing images/stills I’m listening. I struggled with getting full images in landscape and portrait to show well on video.
I was shopping between these 2 and chose the Zf. It mostly came down to build quality and the fact that I can easily adapt all of my e-mount lenses on it. If you're already invested in Fuji, it would not make sense to switch.
Zf makes the X-T5 feel like a toy. It’s a beefy amazing brick.
In fact I see a lot of Fuji owners who have been asking for a FF retro style camera for age, transitioning to the ZF.
@@danielvilliers612 I love Fuji.. have shot them for about a decade.. but I also love amazing colors from Nikon. Love the Z6ii but left it as I wanted VERY good AF/eye detect. Zf has that so I came back. I will always keep one or two Fuji bodies around for fun though.
@@TCinSoCal but the screen flipping to the side is a huge disadvantage for me ...
How long did you use the Nikon ZF? The battery is not that bad; you can take a lot more photos than the CIPA ratings say. I've been using both cameras for months. The IBIS on the ZF is better, and the lack of a joystick is not a problem because the ZF has so many autofocus options that you didn't talk about.
Unfortunately I did not get to use it too long, a little less than 2 weeks. It could be the battery that I got also but from my tests, the ratings were pretty accurate.
For the IBIS, as mentioned in the video, I did not test it extensively but in the videos that I took I noticed a lot of movements that were very harsh.
True. I have 2 batteries and that’s good for 600 - 700 shots. Plenty for me. You are so right about the AF modes. I use BBF to stick/track in 3D, basic square and Auto Area with eye detect is as good as the A7IV. Sitting in a bagel shop with my boys today was so nice to just toss in AF-C/Auto area with eye detect and just compose with green square locking on an eye. Goofing around in a dark room with AF-C .. it will work its ass off to focus in VERY low light.. just keeps trying and often gets it.
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@@ThierryGibralta What focal length did you use on the X-T5, and what focal length did you use on the ZF when comparing IBIS?
@ThierryGibralta then why did you make this video then. You're missing a lot of points
I belive you missed a big point for Nikon. Capability to use vintage lenses like on any other camera; eye detection in manual focus mode ( ofc) ans those "+ " "-" buttons comes very handy. I belive if you want 1 camera for every weekend to shoot pics and video Fuji XT is an awesome choice but with ZF you get more capabilities: autofocus, video, use a travel camera or ad a backup camera for your existing pro kit. Untill now got hammered because no tilting screen, now now they have...you find people complaining about too 😁. Overall good and balanced review.
zf for the manual focus lenses!! simply nothing like it out there right now.
Z 40mm f2 on the Zf is a blast and it’s as good, or better, than the Fuji 27 2.8.. and the Fuji 27 is my second favorite Fuji lens behind the 33 1.4. I would never want to use the 24-70 2.8 on the Zf.. that’s for the Z8/Z9/Z6/Z7. I have the f4 version but rarely use it. I bought the S 50 1.8 but returned it as I don’t need razor thin DoF .. the rendering of the 40 is very nice.
4:50 , You have the option to configure the touch screen to function as a joystick for adjusting the focus point.
That is very different from a physical joystick though
@@ThierryGibraltait isn’t. it performs the exact same function… and performs it well. We appreciate that you made this video.. but don’t get upset when we can tell you spent very little time with at least one of the cameras.
Am I getting upset? 😆
And no sorry for me it isn’t, that’s just true. One is physical the other is not.
@@ThierryGibralta fair that it isn’t for you. I used to loathe the finger swipe to focus.. tried it on many Fuji.. but it’s implemented very well on the Zf. I’m not a sports photographer but I often use the screen to get my square close then finish with a few clicks of d-pad. Another option is to lock focus on a spot/object with AF-C/3D and then compose.. no joystick needed. The AF options are well thought out by Nikon.. and that’s NOT something I said about the Z6ii. Heck.. the C boxes often come in useful when subject can be somewhere in a vertical or horizontal ‘line’ area.
2:45 I’ve been using the Zf outside in sunny California for months now and use the aperture display every single day. I’ve not had issues seeing it. I like it.
I was looking for this comparison because I need to buy my friend one of these cameras and then I found your video. Thanks for uploading
4:25 the implementation of using your thumb to drag focus point with Fuji has never been great for me. It’s very smooth with the Zf. I’ve been shooting these two cameras side by side for months.
Smallrig made grip for nikon zf since day one it has been release.
Thanks for the comparison, I haven’t test the zf, but just seeing you describe both camera it makes a lot of sense. I had are brands of cameras,Nikon,Sony,Canon and none of those give me the experience that Fuji gives me
How odd that when I was young and cameras were metal, heavy and had no extended grips, we had no problem holding them. Nowadays almost every TH-cam presenter claims the camera is almost unusable without an accessory grip and is constantly in danger of slipping out of their hands. What utter nonsense. These presenters are like sheep, one says it is going to slip, so they ALL say it is going to slip. This is bandwagon stuff and not real reviewing. And I speak as someone who used a lot of old cameras and currently owns an X-Pro2, X-T2, X-T3, X-T4,, X-T5, X-H2 and two Nikon Zfs.
I held both cameras. If you use a neck strap it is not a concern, but if you use a wrist strap, both cameras will tire your hand out quickly but zf is gonna be quicker. Both of them have shallow grip compared with other dslr style cameras.
No disrespect but what I can only say is that things improve over time. Just like you are using a modern computer/phone but not a DOS system computer to leave this comment
Maybe things evolved as well you know. Maybe the design you had decades ago is not as good as the design that took decades to evolve and be finalized. Maybe that’s why the current design got adopted.
I don’t say it slips because other people say so, I say it slips… because it slips… just my experience with it.
But hey. I am just a guy on TH-cam making videos. You have your opinion and I respect it. Just respect the fact that I share mine. Cheers
OMG to the OP.. you’ve read my mind. Granted grips are nice and I respect the reviewer but for literally a century nobody complained or cared about this. When I shoot on my Nikon FE I use radical inventions like a wrist strap and my left hand, to cradle/secure the camera.
@@samuelyu5168 Yes, but this is the ... pleasure of going back retro. At least in Nikon line you have cameras that have proper grip, that is not even the halfway grip of the fuji. Secondly, those wrist wrap are super impractical as it blocks the use of your main hand and grip of no grip, it tires your hand. While, their is a simple solution called a neck strap.
Yup. It’s big beefy brick and it’s glorious. I shoot with the Zf every single day. I’ve owned every X-T, every X-E, every X-H and every X100 except the S. OP lost me with the aperture being worthless .. I love it. I ACTUALLY USE it.
Excellent comparison. Thanks
10:30 low light can be in a room where there isn’t good lighting. Most people don’t shoot in studios or optimal lighting. My son’s have a downstairs room with horrible lighting that not only ramps up the ISO but f’s with AWB. FF is a blatant advantage here. .. I am a huge Fuji fan.. I’ve owned every version of the X-T. I still own the X-T5.
So you take photos in horrible lighting? What kind of photographer takes photos in horrible lighting? Full frame or APS-C doesn’t matter good lighting is always a must for proper photography! I would say if you want to take photos of your son room that has poor lighting then use a flash, even for full frame cameras! Taking photos in the dark doesn’t make any sense!! You are doing photography wrong you should always look for good lighting! Also you can adjust white balance for most color lighting pretty much!
@@mr02gixxer1000I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.
@@TCinSoCal no sarcasm here just challenging your argument on low light and the example you gave of your sons room with poor lighting! A good photographer always seek out proper lighting to make photography! And if you can’t find good lighting then you either don’t make the photo or introduce a more acceptable form of lighting to the scene! The argument about full frame vs APS-C though full frame lets more light! Doesn’t mean that you are going to create great images in low light! Yea you can get away with it and it might be usable but not great. And if i introduce say my XT5 to the same situation with the intention to get great results i will do what it takes to make sure the lighting is acceptable. At the end of the day the goal is to come away with great results! Right? That’s why the full frame vs APS-C doesn’t make sense to me must of the time because you can always add light from say a little pocket flash or led to strobes etc depending on the situation! The agreement that I am trying to make is you can make great photos with mostly any cameras these days! If you know what you are doing.
@@mr02gixxer1000 This is an alternate reality that many.. I might say most photographers don’t live in.. no one is not taking shots because they don’t have perfect lighting. If someone wants to take a candid moment of their kids/family.. they don’t pause to ask them to move to better lighting or bring in lighting.. I have shot like this for over a decade..
@@mr02gixxer1000 low light does not equal dark.
ZF is a hybrid camera rather than a retro style with that flippy screen. The XT5 is more focussed. Very bold decision by Fuji in this day and age.
For me you missed out the biggest feature - it is 7 custom modes each in photo and movie mode. That has been a game changer for me over the X-T4, and even over the X-H2S and X-H2. The Nikon does not have that at all.
I do miss Custom modes.. I mapped to the down button so I could cycle through recipes quickly. I miss Vintage Bronze & Vibrant Arizona.
Can't the Nikon do this with color profiles feature?
They are both great cameras, as I have an XT2 I will upgrade to the XT5. Decisive for me is the overall size with lens and the price, here the XT5 has an advantage. I don't think I could see much difference in my photography (street/landscape). The autofocus is definitely better, but as I don't shoot sports/wildlife/portraits I don't notice the difference.
The main place you would see difference in street shooting would be in highlight retention SOOC & better dynamic range. For architecture this is a big deal…more distinct lines, angles..
I have both and they're great. I bring both for travel. I have adapted my Sony lenses to the XF. The Nikon ZF is the fullframe version of the XT5 for photography and that is it.
Nikon Zf is a beast but one thing is missing; film simulations! No camera brand is close to beating Fujifilm when it comes to colour science. If shooting JPG is included in your work, Fujifilm can give more options. Back in the days and up until now, it's not really the number of megapixels or size of the sensor that matter. It's the colour. Way back, film stock brands compete against each other using their unique colours. Photographers today battle it out using their presets. It's still colours that is the point of contention.
No one and especially pros/prosumers care about film simulation and that can be seen by the market share fuji has.
What most people care about is better dynamic range, better low light performance and better auto focus. In all 3, ZF is literally crushing the XT-5.
@@emmanouiltzavidas9119 those factors are useless if the colours and composition/storytelling is lacking in a camera and in the photographer himself. Size sensor, megapixel count, and better autofocus capabilities only add up a little to the photographer's skills and creativity. It will always boil down to the colours and composition/storytelling. And Fujifilm does better in those departments. And I disagree that pros/prosumers do not care that much about film simulations or colours. Because colour is very important in a photo. Majority of consumers do not care about the gear features a creative artist have in his disposal. All they care about is the look and feel of themselves in the photos. If you have the latest gears but lack creativity in colours, composition, and storytelling, you will not get a number of clients as much as those photographers who do not have that high end gears yet bountiful in creativity.
Leica, Haselblad and Nikon all have superior color science than Fuji. Fuji’s colors aren’t accurate. If you want over baked jpegs, then Fuji. If you want the most accurate baseline, the above brands are incredibly better.
@@emmanouiltzavidas9119 and you speak for everyone how?
@@D.Trider that’s your opinion of course!
Fujifilm for me. X-T5 is a perfect.
Hope you can make an update on this comparison since Fuji just released a new firmware (3.01), improving especially in the auto focus department. Fuji's AF has improved after the update.
Unfortunately I don't have access to the Zf anymore but I want to test the AF though
@@ThierryGibralta ty so much. I just got the XT5 less than a week ago and done the update so I have no idea how much it improved. Sub to your channel. Ty
Why not both?
Hey if you buy me both why not! 😀
@@ThierryGibralta If I need both Fujifilm and Nikon, I will choose XT-5 with several lens such as 23, 33, 56 and 16-55 for snapshots and my family. I only bought one lens for Nikon camera which is Z 180-600mm for bird photo. Then you feel two systems.
I have both too
For me it's because I also like to golf, ride motorcycles, eat out, go on vacations, etc. Oh yeah, also because as a hobbyist it would make absolutely no sense to waste extra money. Those are my reasons. :)
When you compare weight you need to compare apples to apples. If you want same light capability and DOF you would need to compare a Fuji XF23/1.4 to the Nikon 40/2. FF has about one stop better ISO and DOF of both lenses is same as the sensors have different sizes. Now the Fuji lense weighs 375gr and the Nikon 170gr. This equation left the Glas quality aside 😊
@8:51 great example is fujifilm's x-series getting rid of the exposure metering mode dial in favor of a stills/video toggle. In my opinion this is the worst decision fujifilm hasmade for their cameras to date, as I personally use the exposure metering dial on my xt3 every time I shoot.
YOu don't mention color. Nikon doesn't compete with Fuji on color SOOC (which is how I shoot). End of story because when I make prints, no one cares about the camera features, but they DO notice color and shaprness.
But Noon offers an equivalent to film simulations called Nikon color profiles or something right?
You’re supposed to hold the camera with your left hand
I prefer my Fuji XT30 over my Z7, because the color is better.
Dude your a photographer... on youtube making videos. Who is the ZF for... people who want one camera that can do it all. I see it. Like this you can judge for yourself. The XT5 is a street and travel camera. The Nikon is for landscape, events, product photography, portraits. Depends what sort of photography you most engage in. I would argue that they make a killer street and travel camera already in the X100V, and Nikon make better pro cameras fit for purpose. Both are fun, both feel special and for me it's not whether you use a nikon or a fuji, did you get the shots you wanted?
If you use your double card slots for redundancy you only have to take out one card so your micro sd card never has to come out of your camera
It actually depends on your workflow. I have several projects where I had to hand over both cards every time for backup but I agree for most cases.
Just one addition: The price difference in real life is more pronounced. You can easily find X-T5s around the 1500- 1600, while the ZF is usually around 2300+ (without lens). Also, the weight question is tricky. An X-T5 with the popular 23mm 1.4 weighs just as much as an Zf with the 40mm F2. If been going back and forth with these and started comparing weights with different lens options and it depends a lot on the glass you put on them... (btw I'm looking for a camera that I simply enjoy. My actual work gets done by Sony which is very, very hard to beat for the money at the moment).
The zf is 2,000 not 2,300+ if your paying 2,300 or more your getting scammed. It's 2k on Nikon site. B&H, adorama and more
Having owned both and returned the ZF I feel that a lot of people will choose the ZF for the full frame reason, feeling they need full frame above anything else. There is a lot to like about the ZF but being FF should not be the most important spec as in the right hands makes zero difference and the aps-c Fuji system has lots of plus points.
100%, The size/weight of the camera to make this FF makes me not want to use it all day. The XT line of cameras is all about balance and Fuji do it perfectly.
The screen flipping to the side is a huge disadvantage for me :( .... some goes to my r5's ... I fckn hate this feature .... Fortunately, I use my r5's for work purposes where I rather use the evf ... I was thinking about ZF for my street photography, but this feature makes it a no-go for me.
The Nikon 40mm f2.0 lens has a retro design and is a little bigger than a pancake lens. Nikon also makes a pancake lens for the Z system
You are supposed to hold the camera with the lens attached to it. Since old SLRs are manual focus, you always had to hold the lens while shooting. So the grip was not really an issue. Its a retro styleded camera, I dont understand people complaining so much about the grip. Just buy a Z6, Z8, Z9 Nikons if you want to grip. Let us enjoy the camera for what it is. You also have the option on buying a grip.
Bad grip for my right hand is still bad grip, even if I hold it with 2 hands... and no you don't always hold it with 2 hands. When you are moving around with it for example, it is nice to feel like the camera is secure in one hand.
You are saying that I should not say anything about the grip because the camera is a retro style camera... but so is the X-T5... and the grip is just better imo. Hence the point. But again, just my opinion.
Yes you have the option to buy a grip. But if you think like that then you should not complain about anything then, you always have the option to change it.
@@ThierryGibralta The camera was not meant to be like a DSLR. Have you see Leica M cameras, or the retro SLRs in the past? So you mean to say they need to build a grip just to compromise the styling of the camera. It's based on the nikon FM2. It supposed to me make compact without a massiv grip. The funifilm is APSC. It's lighter. I bet if the 2 cameras have the same weight you would complain about the lack of grip on the Xt5 aswell. You actually can't complain about the grip because you have other options within the Nikon line up. You either want retro styled or conventional digital camera. Camera looks amazing without a grip.
@@kristoffergo6294 yes if the cameras were the same weight maybe. The fact is they are not. And the XT5 has a grip so I don’t complain.
Not saying they have to do anything. I just prefer the design with a small grip, which imo does not compromise the design (look at the XT5)
I’m Fujifilm for life.
I think you need to approach this in a much more unbiased way. Every time you "gave the point" to nikon, you follow up with "but that does not mean that the Fujifilm can´t...". I find that peculiar.
The reason why the lenses on the Fuji are smaller is because of the crop factor.
Definitely Fugifilm. Great video, nice job
Thank you!
Smaller sensors are easier to stabilize. Think about how much people rave about mft stabilizers
Pour moi Fuji est devenu aussi cher que les autres marques avec l'abandon de l'entrée de gamme non bridée.
Fuji est très bon mais je vois de plus en plus de gens switcher sur d'autres systèmes ce qui n'arrivait pas il y a quelques années.
Fuji a encore de la hype surtout auprès des jeunes et ce sont de bons appareils mais pour moi leur stratégie est une erreur. Il suffit des voir les meilleures ventes d'appareils photos au japon en 2023, ce ne sont que des entrées de gamme et il n'y a pas Fujifilm
En occasion, Fuji est aussi mal placé car les appareils comme Nikon sont beaucoup plus nombreux et donc beaucoup moins chers. Il est très facile de trouver un Z7 moins cher qu'un -X-H2
Pour la photo de rue je prendrai un X-T5, portrait/sport Z6 II ou Z-f, paysage Z7 plutôt que X-H2. Mais je suis plutôt photo si on inclut la vidéo cela sera encore différent
You clearly forgot the words “by Fujifilm fanboy” from your video title..😂😂
Grip is a non issue. It is retro for a reason. Large grip would render this camera ugly. Then you complain about the looks. But you says it looks good. And there is a good reason for it. So go get a grip.
Very genuine and fair comparison. Bon travail! I am hesitating between those two. One deciding factor for me anyway, is the tripod plate as I am using Peak design or Pgytech, both square plates. Does the plate need to be removed in order to change the battery? If yes, deal breaker for me as i do not like screwing/unscrewing the plate, especially when outdoors.
Just tested this for you. Was able to align plate on bottom of Zf to where I can drop/add a battery while it’s still on the tripod. Also, looks like the base plate on Zf for tripod mount is replaceable.
@@TCinSoCal thank you. Your video on ZF definitely swayed me away from the x-t5. Having owned a Sony a74, and now using Sony zv-e1, I am spoiled with AF. Even with new firmware, Fuji AF seems sluggish apparently. The reason i am not pulling the trigger on the Nikon yet, is i am not fond of the lenses. I like aperture rings.
@@skfoto if you need Sony level AF the X-H2S is very, very close.. and that shutter is blazing fast. I 1000% get the lens issue. I’m using the 40 mainly.. picked up an SE version. Thing is .. once you put the 33/18 1.4 on the X-T5 it’s also ‘bigger’. My next Nikon lens is likely the MC Z 105. It’s ridiculous. I have the Z 24-70 f4 but rarely use it. I’m mainly travel, casual, family shooter. I have considered grabbing an old Z7 for landscape shots.
Both
As always fuji always better at executing things
Both great looking cameras! When Nikon announced the Zf I was very tempted to buy one, but I could resist until I could check the camera out at a local store - which was a pretty good decision. After a few minutes I decided not to buy the Zf. Too big, just two lenses that fit the style of the camera, weird implementation of PASM and dedicated wheels and - of course - the horrible flip out screen I already hate on my Lumix S5. The sensor on the other hand is great, the AF is brilliant and for someone who owns a Nikon FE2 the design is very appealing (although far too big compared to the FE2). But all in all I would opt for the Fuji if I would be forced to buy one of these two cameras. The “package” appears to me more well rounded. But I could understand if someone opts for the Zf. Technically it is a Z6II on steroids.
And here I am all bothered on the many visible finger prints on both lcds 😆
Proof that I used them lol
The battery life in fuji during winter it won’t last long vs the nikon EL15
Used it in Hokkaido in -12deg for photos and videos without any issue. What are you basing your statement on?
This is incorrect and baseless.
On every end of a statement/sentence you made about the Nikon, there is a "but". Event if the start is positiv. But never on a statement you did on the Fuji. I call this biased. The Nikon is a full frame camera, not the same ballpark as the Fuji. And the Nikon is capable of taking every glass, by adapters. Even doing autofocus with the techart adapter. With some very nice, old manual and cheap lenses.
The Zf is the next step. The only full frame retro camera on the market. You've compared apples to pears.
Cool. 👍
Again that’s my opinion, but it seems like Nikon fanboys can’t take it. If you can’t you are welcome to go on your way ^^
@@ThierryGibralta Well, maybe there are Fujifilm fanboys outside, too. But anyway, APS-C vs full frame. Bananas vs apples. Both are great cameras. And I love my OM-1 for birds.
@@Yauu2 The Banana vs Apple comparison makes no sense. Sensors. Yes size is different. But most people won't see the difference nor care.
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ZF for me.
I decided to get rid of my fujifilm xt5 and lenses to go all in with Nikon. I regret it big time.
What do you regret making the switch?
@ThierryGibralta I miss the dials and how fujifilm implemented it, I miss my small lenses, the film simulations and recipes i had saved, the rear dials and the command dials front and back felt like better quality than the Nikon, I miss the menu system and I miss that I could save 6 custom settings (if I remember correctly), I miss all the function buttons I was able to allocate and a big one is the screen, I did not realize how much I liked the tilting screen vs the articulating screen. It was a bad and expensive move... not worth it!
@@halgrynshaunthank you, your perspective is valuable for reasons I would likely encounter as well. I’m also very invested in the Fuji ergonomics and custom settings, not to mention Aperture rings, and would truly miss those.
And what is your opinion on the size and weight differences? Does it even bother you when compared to your experience with the Fuji?
@@chandanhegde9219 It is immediately apparent how much smaller the Fuji is, especially considering the lens options.
The grip on the Fuji is much better than the Nikon with an additional small rig grip.
Auto focus and iso performance is better on the Nikon, but not worth it for my use cases.
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Under your logic, we should still be using the heavy metal telephones my grandfather used one day, or even the ones we used to hang on the kitchen wall with 50 yards of cord 😃iRespectfully.
If Nikon allowed its Japan only grip into the rest of the world and it launched a premium line of aperture ring primes matching the aesthetic then I would of kept mine and put up with its other quirks but it was returned to Nikon 😢
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I can order the Japan only grip to anywhere in the world, as well as a choice of many other grips for this camera. I also knew that only two fashion matched lenses are available and there was no line of aperture ring lenses.
Exactly why would you buy a camera knowing you wouldn't keep it? Just to say you returned a camera for reasons that you knew before you bought it?
@@bigd7696 was on trial for 30 days 👍
@@bigd7696 I never purchased it was on trial from Nikon... Lots to like just to many quirks to make it pro tool I wanted to have in my arsenal.
This dude is such a Fuji shill lol
Take your meds, Fuji is king.