Spoiler talk ahead (yes this movie has been out a while but I don't wanna spoil it for anyone who's still yet to see it, no matter how unlikely a person who's yet to see the film may come across this clip and read the comments.) "Just as luck appears in three, so does misfortune. Because you don't want ot see it, you don't see it coming. Even if you notice it, you don't say anything. Even if you're told, you don't listen. Then Boom! The end comes! In our world, you would be dead the first time, let alone all three times.- Batou, much later in the film (with a bit of help from Wikiquote so I would try to get it right) Am I alone in thinking that he wasn't just refering to the whole Dollhouse segment and loops, as well as bringing this up to Togusa given he seemed to not pick it up until it seemed to be too late for him (before he was pulled out of the whole sequence), he was also refering to his own expirences, specfically this scene? Because Batou didn't want to see danger, and because that scan earlier said nothing of importance, he didn't see it coming. When he got into the shop, it was all with a blue filter. Even if you don't notice, you don't say anything. And then finally when outright told by the Major herself. "You've entered the killzone." Even if you're told you don't listen. Leading up to what played out, with what appears to be from his viewpoint, getting ambushed, when in reality, he was hacked into, and was made into something going crazy. Then Boom! The end comes! As pointed out later on, it's not a usual thing for Batou of all people to get hacked, which is another way of saying the one responsible (preseumbly Kim) had to be THAT good to do so, and we're shown as much during the Dollhouse sequence. Besides being outright warned by the Major in an indirect fashion, there were a few signs of realizing they (him and Tougusa) were thrown for a repeating lop. He clearly learned from here. I wanna ramble more but maybe I might save that for an Essay or something.
Damn I really have to watch the movie more than one so I could think this way. Just watched it yesterday and I really thought when Batou said that, it was when he experienced the same thing with Togusa in the mansion. But clearly, he was referring to this exact moment too
@@atibamaule It represents a change in the environment. The ingenuity of the hack on Batou is that it works on his, for lack of a better term, paranoia that he's being observed. The blue hue represents a cool, calm feeling, while his growing paranoia leads to the eventual hack taking full effect. It's mainly a visual hack to distract him, and the actual hack is to harm himself, and then innocent bystanders to get him removed from his investigation. What always gets me is that Batou doesn't realize Ishikawa is in there waiting for him. He's the guy in the hat and jacket in the aisle.
this whole shop has a 3D render/ layout thing. I don't know the jargon but I do know that the effort put into this room alone is incredible especially as a one time use "prop"
This is extremely impressive for early non-cell animation. I honestly don’t know how they did it. This era of late 90s-early 2000s computer colored/produced anime is so ugly because it was a big technological transition that was just being figured out. This movie looks like it could have been made today though.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus they did, for scenes like the scuba dive rising to the surface scene and the invisibility suits. oh sorry wrong comment section. i think they spent literally a week on every single scene in this movie.
@@ianswift3521 I really did love the tv series, there was a time period where that tv series, cow boy bebop and a lot of other seriously great anime were all played on Saturday night tv to the point folks actually WANTED to stay up late and watch what was on, I don’t even have cable these days.
yea GITS was way ahead of its time, considering the tech we had back in the old days. Reason a lot of people didn't really get into it. I'm glad people are catching on with the cyberpunk trend.
@@aakashdaniel7452 SPOILERS Bauto isn't actually getting shot and is actually shooting his own arm as we learn later, and the shell casings falling are a good hint to that as we don't see him "shoot" during the simulation.
I'm yet to see Innocence, but I LOVE how Motoko is basically Batou's guardian angel this go around. She's actively using her new digital immortal abilities to assist her friend, and that's a cool way of keeping the past protagonist in an important role. P.S. Yes, I know they recast Mimi Woods with Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as Motoko's English voice this time.
It is intentional, the build up and wind up of the banal is very much intentional. Took me a year or two to feel normal just going to the store, when you’re ALWAYS waiting for the other shoe to drop and spot the next threat just going to get dog food can be like being outside the wire in hostile ground. Batu here came packing three side arms like a giga chad but you don’t do that unless you have seen a thing or two 9/10 times, one behind one appendix and one Mexican carried in the jacket I think.
i love that after its revealed what's happening, you can tell batou is actually trying to shoot himself so he won't kill the civilians, he points the gun at the guy in the trench coat but still has enough resistance to shoot the gun out of his own hand with his backup handgun before he can be forced to pull the trigger
Why wouldn't it be? The cybernetics in GitS are made to mimic human anatomy. No cyborg in GitS is 100% nuts and bolts, excluding those with archaic prosthetics. Refer to chapter 05 of the original manga for Shirow Masamune's explanation of cyborg creation. The half-finished model there is made to be anatomically correct, with synthetic muscle. It's not too much of an assumption that there would be synthetic blood.
If you pay attention from 2:04 onwards, every time he's shot, he's always in an angle where his other arm is hidden behind the right arm, later you see him taking his left arm from a position where he could've shot his own arm 4 times. Even later, when the shelf in the left is shot, you can see it only "explodes" when he points his gun at it. He was just not seeing things straight during his delusion.
Tetrah1 he realized he was being hacked, just he couldn't really stop it, that's why he fired his gun at himself, he took out one arm and alerted the civilians around.
@@Tetrah1 if you watch you can even see when he draws the hidden gun, at 1:45. He draws it from behind his back, and then is holding it (but can't see it because he's hacked) as he loads that arm up with dog food.
Honestly, this was one of the most boring movies of the series, I fell asleep through most of it. Although Batou is a cool character, you need the Major to carry the movie, and her brief appearance in the end just wasn't enough. Although i do have to give props to the art style and composition of the movie.
eh, I felt like the film was carried out pretty well without Motoko, and a lot of the philosophical convos are entertaining, on top of the action, sound design, and visuals that hold up very well. Honestly what I wanted out of the first film for the most part.
Yeah the second movie is a new direction and artstyle. Philosophicaly heavy. Far more quotes from various books and the Bible. More investigating. After a few more reruns I'm starting to appreciate it more.
I think the movie really needs more than one watch to really appreciate the story. That being said if they had just toned down the psychobabble a couple notches and let the characters shine more then it could be on par with the original.
Spoiler talk ahead (yes this movie has been out a while but I don't wanna spoil it for anyone who's still yet to see it, no matter how unlikely a person who's yet to see the film may come across this clip and read the comments.)
"Just as luck appears in three, so does misfortune. Because you don't want ot see it, you don't see it coming. Even if you notice it, you don't say anything. Even if you're told, you don't listen. Then Boom! The end comes!
In our world, you would be dead the first time, let alone all three times.- Batou, much later in the film (with a bit of help from Wikiquote so I would try to get it right)
Am I alone in thinking that he wasn't just refering to the whole Dollhouse segment and loops, as well as bringing this up to Togusa given he seemed to not pick it up until it seemed to be too late for him (before he was pulled out of the whole sequence), he was also refering to his own expirences, specfically this scene?
Because Batou didn't want to see danger, and because that scan earlier said nothing of importance, he didn't see it coming.
When he got into the shop, it was all with a blue filter.
Even if you don't notice, you don't say anything.
And then finally when outright told by the Major herself.
"You've entered the killzone."
Even if you're told you don't listen.
Leading up to what played out, with what appears to be from his viewpoint, getting ambushed, when in reality, he was hacked into, and was made into something going crazy.
Then Boom! The end comes!
As pointed out later on, it's not a usual thing for Batou of all people to get hacked, which is another way of saying the one responsible (preseumbly Kim) had to be THAT good to do so, and we're shown as much during the Dollhouse sequence.
Besides being outright warned by the Major in an indirect fashion, there were a few signs of realizing they (him and Tougusa) were thrown for a repeating lop. He clearly learned from here.
I wanna ramble more but maybe I might save that for an Essay or something.
Damn I really have to watch the movie more than one so I could think this way. Just watched it yesterday and I really thought when Batou said that, it was when he experienced the same thing with Togusa in the mansion. But clearly, he was referring to this exact moment too
This scene really stood out to me for this exact reason.
@@halehydraa i didn't really fully get the impact of this movie until i saw it 4 times.
I see the blue filter, but what does it mean?
@@atibamaule It represents a change in the environment. The ingenuity of the hack on Batou is that it works on his, for lack of a better term, paranoia that he's being observed. The blue hue represents a cool, calm feeling, while his growing paranoia leads to the eventual hack taking full effect. It's mainly a visual hack to distract him, and the actual hack is to harm himself, and then innocent bystanders to get him removed from his investigation.
What always gets me is that Batou doesn't realize Ishikawa is in there waiting for him. He's the guy in the hat and jacket in the aisle.
Me in a crowded McDonalds when the ice cream machine is “broken” but I saw someone walk out with a McFlurry just a second ago
Remember in the first movie how Batou said people who get ghost hacked are pathetic
As a sympathy thing... wasnt it?
Because they turned into mush. Useless and hopeless. No future. Not from weakness
That's not what happened here. His personality didn't get altered. Only his perception (and temporarily, at that).
remember when batou was pissed that his eyes got hacked? only to hack someones eyes himself before killing them, batou is known for his hypocrisy
@@ryouma1717 he’s known to survive and adapt, he’s a ilk school warrior in a day long passed that
He says something completely different in the original subtitled version.
this whole shop has a 3D render/ layout thing. I don't know the jargon but I do know that the effort put into this room alone is incredible especially as a one time use "prop"
And can we please talk about that incredible turnaround shot at 0:57 and how flawless it was.
This is extremely impressive for early non-cell animation. I honestly don’t know how they did it. This era of late 90s-early 2000s computer colored/produced anime is so ugly because it was a big technological transition that was just being figured out. This movie looks like it could have been made today though.
I think it's because they embraced it's flaws
Skill transcends tools, also I think they used a hybrid method.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus they did, for scenes like the scuba dive rising to the surface scene and the invisibility suits. oh sorry wrong comment section. i think they spent literally a week on every single scene in this movie.
@@ianswift3521 I really did love the tv series, there was a time period where that tv series, cow boy bebop and a lot of other seriously great anime were all played on Saturday night tv to the point folks actually WANTED to stay up late and watch what was on, I don’t even have cable these days.
One of the greatest sequels ever
The most surprising thing is that this is from 2004.
It's actually from 1999 lol
yea GITS was way ahead of its time, considering the tech we had back in the old days. Reason a lot of people didn't really get into it. I'm glad people are catching on with the cyberpunk trend.
literally what?
Indeed
if you're a cyborg, don't have a routine behavior, or you'll get hacked easily without any awareness.
Ok I'll go through the backdoor then or do something Solid Snake would do... hmm if i buy refrigerator i can use the box
I mean same goes for anyone who’s a potential assassination target lol
I don't know if it was on purpose, but at moments like 1:15 and 1:23, batou's peripheral vision shows the store without the blue tint
I've never noticed that detail before, that's an amazing catch!
Batou was my favorite character
what about now?
in gits 2045 he lost his personality
@@treehunned7615 eh, he was alright. He was the same as he was in SAC, really. In this movie he's mostly depressed.
2:07 really good foreshadowing if you know what's going on.
Sorry I couldn't understand. Can you please elaborate??
@@aakashdaniel7452 SPOILERS
Bauto isn't actually getting shot and is actually shooting his own arm as we learn later, and the shell casings falling are a good hint to that as we don't see him "shoot" during the simulation.
@@peppermillers8361 mind blown
The very bright blue tint already shows that he is cyberhacked!
for some reason i think the box of nature valley granola bars at 1:48 is the funniest thing of all time
I'm yet to see Innocence, but I LOVE how Motoko is basically Batou's guardian angel this go around. She's actively using her new digital immortal abilities to assist her friend, and that's a cool way of keeping the past protagonist in an important role.
P.S. Yes, I know they recast Mimi Woods with Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as Motoko's English voice this time.
Its not intentional but this scene encapsulates the internal experience fo social anxiety quite well.
It is intentional, the build up and wind up of the banal is very much intentional. Took me a year or two to feel normal just going to the store, when you’re ALWAYS waiting for the other shoe to drop and spot the next threat just going to get dog food can be like being outside the wire in hostile ground.
Batu here came packing three side arms like a giga chad but you don’t do that unless you have seen a thing or two 9/10 times, one behind one appendix and one Mexican carried in the jacket I think.
3D in Anime done right .
Eh, it overuses it a bit too much and the tomato cloud looks pretty bad, but overall I mostly really liked the CG in this film.
1:00 You've entered the calzone
i love that after its revealed what's happening, you can tell batou is actually trying to shoot himself so he won't kill the civilians, he points the gun at the guy in the trench coat but still has enough resistance to shoot the gun out of his own hand with his backup handgun before he can be forced to pull the trigger
That's how to use CG in anime.
Someone on a comment section said the grocery store shootout from Wanted (2008) reminded them of this. I can see the similarities.
This anime came out in 2004.
@@fikrimajid2997
I know. I'm not saying Ghost in the Shell drew inspiration from Wanted. It was probably just a coincidence.
@@The_Isaiahnator I see that. But Ghost in the Shell innocent is still the best.
FANTASTIC FILM
👋😷
so underrated movie
Hardest scene in the game
This is probably what the world is like for people with schizophrenia 😂
Poor Batou
if he's a full military grade cyborg, why is his blood red?
Why wouldn't it be? The cybernetics in GitS are made to mimic human anatomy. No cyborg in GitS is 100% nuts and bolts, excluding those with archaic prosthetics. Refer to chapter 05 of the original manga for Shirow Masamune's explanation of cyborg creation. The half-finished model there is made to be anatomically correct, with synthetic muscle. It's not too much of an assumption that there would be synthetic blood.
It's a power steering fluid - it has red-brown color.
@@wino0000006 its actually Batou's blinker fluid
@@n8tehgr8est For real. Goes to show just how much humanity achieved in this universe. You almost can't tell the difference!
Because cyborgs (enhanced humans) are not androids (synthetic)
Wait wait wait
He shot his own arm 5 times with his own gun? How the fuck does that work?
If you pay attention from 2:04 onwards, every time he's shot, he's always in an angle where his other arm is hidden behind the right arm, later you see him taking his left arm from a position where he could've shot his own arm 4 times. Even later, when the shelf in the left is shot, you can see it only "explodes" when he points his gun at it.
He was just not seeing things straight during his delusion.
Tetrah1 he realized he was being hacked, just he couldn't really stop it, that's why he fired his gun at himself, he took out one arm and alerted the civilians around.
@@Tetrah1 if you watch you can even see when he draws the hidden gun, at 1:45. He draws it from behind his back, and then is holding it (but can't see it because he's hacked) as he loads that arm up with dog food.
@@Tetrah1Goddamn I’ve seen this movie at least a dozen times and I’m still picking up new details
who was he hacked by again? i don"t remember?
Sounds slightly slowed down, great scene though...edit: yup at 1.25x speed it sounds almost right
Honestly, this was one of the most boring movies of the series, I fell asleep through most of it. Although Batou is a cool character, you need the Major to carry the movie, and her brief appearance in the end just wasn't enough. Although i do have to give props to the art style and composition of the movie.
eh, I felt like the film was carried out pretty well without Motoko, and a lot of the philosophical convos are entertaining, on top of the action, sound design, and visuals that hold up very well. Honestly what I wanted out of the first film for the most part.
Yeah the second movie is a new direction and artstyle. Philosophicaly heavy. Far more quotes from various books and the Bible. More investigating. After a few more reruns I'm starting to appreciate it more.
@@noble20xx56 it's good stuff due to it's slow paced nature.
Part 2 is better imo
I think the movie really needs more than one watch to really appreciate the story. That being said if they had just toned down the psychobabble a couple notches and let the characters shine more then it could be on par with the original.