Pity I can't make it to Detroit within a week - need new passport :-) I might argue with the shop guys too much anyway :-) ...or design them a new force air and instrumentation package :-)
The only place that you are making more power is in the additional RPM range....other than that the Speciale is KILLING IT. No replacement for displacement!!! If they hardened that motor to run the additional rev's it would be off the chart. Sorry but I believe that the Speciale would have an insurmountable lead in 90% of the smackdowns and the only time the V4R will be able to skywalk is in the VERY VERY top end runs. THe Speciale has 15-20 hp advantage for 85-90% of the meat of the rev range!! Thats INSANE!!! In a straight line the Speciale is gonna kill it, but on a track where you can stay in that gear and stay on the power without shifting would make the V4R superior as the track isnt all about acceleration, its about maintaining speed and maintaining momentum. Great video IB!!! THanks for sharing!!!
Speciale beats it on the track too. 7000rpm coming out of a corner and it's a drag race to the next corner. Speciale wins everywhere unless the straight is long enough to reel it back in.
@@Turbo329 only thing I did notice is exiting out of a corner but of course not on slicks the speciale struggles to get traction and put that torque down which upsets the chassis. I have heard the v4r is much smoother on corner exit which in that case could be faster 😉
@@Turbo329 If I had to guess I would say that the additional rev range will allow the R to not have to shift and will be able to maintain more momentum and "smoothness" on the track...but its just IMHO...I liken it to riding the curves with friends who have inline 4's when I had my RC51 (showing my age here), as while they were playing with gears I was basically able to just leave mine in 4th gear and power around pretty much anywhere, never shifting and just concentrating on my line...which made me a TON faster... Anyhow, its not going to matter, as you arent going to see them together on a track in competition unless they bring back Formula USA!! LOLZ Its the sole reason Ducati even made the thing....in order to be able to race 1000cc.
I was so impressed till I seen that graph ... the v4 makes a lot more low mid range power yikes. I think we need to see a real world street comparison . Do a 60-199 roll race. And a quarter mile dig race to see what the bikes do. I’d love to see that happen 👍
I mean dont get me wrong, its a nice looking and sounding bike but correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this bike twice as expensive as a Kawasaki H2 and produces the same hp as a stock H2? Just saying?
If you want a cheaper bike like this go with the new factory 1100 from aprilia. Similar power, similar v4 engine and looks better than an h2 tbh. 25k in the US
damn that bang on plus 8hp the v4 speciale make 226 at the crank with the race kit and the v4r makes 234 at the crank which is 8hp 194-202 that 8 hp the 1100 panigale still make about more power 85 percent of the time but that also a bad thing i can keep the front end down while riding the v4r smother power delivery and winglet should help sort alot of that issue out
Haha I love this channel 650ib is the smack down king!! Been watching for a while now and it’s always fun and just straight savage!! Pink shift light FTW!
Hmm where have I seen these curves before? Someone did a V4R slower than V4 video.....who was that lol?! Waiting for Steve to bring you a whoopin. I think we need to wager a snickers.
Yeah that would be CLOSE..cause I've seen the new BMW dynoed in person...208 hp The V4-S is a cheater bike at 1103cc but boy does that pull your freaking arms off !
10:20 WRONG. Now I begin to understand why tune guys almost invariably think they can do better than the factory... ...with worse equipment, less training and under random atmospheric and airflow/ram conditions :'(
its not that they can do better then the factory in terms of performance its that factory tend to think about safty life of engine and reliabilty when they tuned there bikes ducati tuned the engine especially with the akra map with very rich map to keep the bike engine running cooler and more reliable the engien will still have to be able to go tens of thousands or even hundred thousand mile with proper maintaince brentuning has easily added 12hp to standard v4s with akra map but the long term consequence for the engine life is yet to be known
Damn, beast. Can't believe that thing spins up to 16k!! I remember when the 1199 doing 11.5k was a lot haha. I'm interested to see that aprilia, I'm trying to decide on the new s1000rr or that.
The V4R is a beautiful bike, but I love the low-end power on my V4 Speciale (the greatest bike of all time). It's nice to not have to rev to redline to get the extra torque. However, I would definitely like to see a video of someone actually taking advantage of that insane V4R power at 15,250 RPM. ;)
I doubt there are many people that have any idea what 200 horsepower to the wheel of a motorcycle means. I had 160 with my GSXR 1000 and that was ludicrous speed. Holy crap!!!
Love that fat 1100 midrange... but if you're on the track or the autobahn... that R is a beast. Still waiting for that 1100 to drop into a Streetfighter... next year I think... next year!
The Best way to Compare Hp maps by the two engines is to use percent of peak engine speed. Hence, both Hp maps will end at the same place and thus give a better comparison between the two. Torque, however is a little different. Since a Higher revving engine can be geared lower to reach the same speed, torque can be increased by gearing. Again, if both engine torque maps are done by percent engine max speed instead of rpm, then the higher revving engine's torque should be increased by multiplying percent increase of lower revving engine. Example: if one engine revs 20% higher than the other engine, than its entire torque range should be multiplied by 1.2... comparing engines by revs alone, is like comparing apples and oranges... That's why the "R" may have looked less potent than the "S"...
One thing I noticed here is that the V4R was tested in 5th gear. Maybe that's a dyno speed limitation but it's got an extra 500 rpm available in 6th which would no doubt add some ponies to that chart assuming the curve doesn't go flat (which I highly doubt).
I love your channel!! And your personality!! My favorite still is when you went to Texas to meet a$$hole by nature! Smack down on stretched bottled bike oh man I watch that vid at least twice a week lol ! Got em got em!! I say that when I pass other truckers in my 1980 dumptruck lol 😝
And when you smoked bottled busa, but daddy turbo zipped by lol when he talked smacked was absolute boss talk!! “ when you two are going at it I’ll just zip passed ya”!!! Lol
You can calculate torque from the formula HP = (torque (in ft-lb) x RPM) / 5252 ...It'll be out by the drivechain efficiency factor of course - but so will the horsepower reading :-)
Another small note. Should have had Nick do the pulls vs time. That would have told all the bench racing stories you would ever need. The HP is one thing, but if a bike is accelerating to top rpm 2 seconds faster.....thats your faster bike.
Man that's great. I might opt fr the better mid range performance. No egg on ducati face after they went to the V4 configuration. I wasn't impressed with the twin ducati. Can't knock the V4 tho. Ib, I love your channel man. Super great info for my own bike build. Thanks man. Props to your young mechanic too. He knows his stuff.
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Yea. Hey Didn’t he say that the bike was fuel rich at high rpm? That’s because the bike isn’t getting the ram air effect. Probably has another 10-15 hp. Ram air is like a turbocharger.
At 09:50: Incorrect. Gearing doesn't change power, true. However it does change torque. Power = Torque • RPM • Constant. If torque increase and power remains the same RPM has to decrease. Thus, yes gearing can fix that as what it would do is, itwould make the panigale R to make the same power as before, but at fewer RPM but with more torque.
650ib. Can you order the Headlight switch from a Ducati European dealer for the 2020 V4R so you can turn of the headlights when you want? If so, is it plug and play with the US model? I ask because on Manny's video from Motomillion.com his headlights were off on his V4X but his eyebrow lights were on when he started it. So I figured that race switch kit he used did that. I want to if the stock switch from Europe would do the same thing
I could not believe how fast and powerful the V4-S is....amazing..and I never even got close to the redline...it just revved and revved..it's astonishing...I wonder how well the engine will hold up over many thousands of miles w/o grenading like the Desmosedici RR did ..quite often I should add...to the point where Ducati reps would tell owners to get their Demsosedicis balanced and blueprinted due to sloppy tolerances
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@@jeffmays5393 Yes, is incredible how much power, not only this, almost all newer 1000rr bikes have (sadly Honda is not in the list) Even Suzuki have the gsxr 1000 RR Ryuyo with 210 hp on a 1000 inline 4. Aprillia V4 1100...too much for me, I still find difficult to handle the 165 rwhp of my Gixxer K6!!
Uuuugghh *drools* I want a v4r. I’ll be honest I’ve wanted a s1k for awhile but I’m not really liking the new look on them but after reading up on the v4r damn
Hey Ib, if you can somehow get the new bmw s1000rr m on the dyno, that would be great. A recent video completely floored the tester with 206 hp and 85 torque on a claimed low reading dyno.
650ib stop constantly patting yourself in the back for buying a v4r lol we know its a sweet bike but honestly the speciale has better acceleration and handling overall better bike, the best roads are never straight.. . If a top end bike is what you want just buy a fuckin hayabusa lol just saying
@@spin_kick It really depends Travis. On a shorter more technical track they will be gearing the V4R much shorter to get the pop back off of the corners. At Daytona, sure, different story. MCN did a review a few years ago where they took the 2003 R6 and spanked the new one on the track because the mid-range was so much fatter on the old one it just jumped off the corners.
Bit worried how little power it is making compared to the claimed power. Lots of money for a bike that ends up being marginally more powerful than it's cheaper sibling
Q: Why is the V4R stopping you before the 16500 redline? A: the FIM/WSBK has just docked 6-Fitty minus (-)250 RPM, and they DARE him to say something about it.
@@phillyphil1513 Probably reliability for the road. How many times would you need that extra 500 rpm? I've read that the extra 500rpm the factory Yamaha MotoGP team had vs the satellite made the engine life 30% shorter... Sure that might be 17000 vs 17500 or so on a GP bike, but still, 10% reduction on a road bike its still 5-10k miles in some cases. (That might also be publicity as to justify as to why they didn't give 100% performance to them)
Good luck on Brenttuning. I been calling them on the V4 for a year now & there not progression at all. They blow you off & basically say when we get around to it we will do it. Well when. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN !!!~! WTF @@650ib
Yeah, with WSBK giving them more than 1000 extra revs over the competition lol what a joke. WSBK has always been about letting Ducati win by giving it concessions in the rules.
@@schumifan78 Kawasaki has won the last four championship titles by a long distance and so far only Bautista has been able to realize the potential of the V4 Panigale. Taking at least 2015-2018 into consideration I don't see an unfair advantage for Ducati.
My 2016 R1 is unacceptable, i gotta get a V4R, or a V4S. hahahaha. Seriously, i look fwd to seeing the 4R against the 1100 Aprilia V4 and the new BMW 1K. Seriously tho, i like the V4S/Speciale more than the R.
Nice. One thing to remember, and you can see it on the video, the V4R spins up so much faster than the speciale. On the track, the V4R would kill the speciale.
The lack of midrange on the V4R. It's due to the cam design. Being that the V4R is being raced in WSBK with tight restrictions, Ducati really let the hammer down with the V4R. You want more power but want to maintain the same displacement? Add more revs. That cam at 8000 rpm even 10k rpm, is still bleeding off some compression (valve overlap), in order to allow that motor to breathe to 16,500. Doesn't seem like the power tapers off much either up top, so its definitely useable power and not all just overrev.
Yeah! I agree... but from my own income & money saved, that bimmer is greenlight, but the V4r? Yellow light about turn red with a long ass slow moving train passing through! Lol 😂
I am very impress with the horse power numbers indeed! I cant wait for Aprilia 1100 factory to be added tp your fleet. I dont think you will be disappointed base on specs on that beast.
Bro give me one motorcycle ,even Yamaha r15 also ,I'm tired of going to school in bus please help me ,god will give you more bless ,God said knook the door and god will open for you
HAHAHAH Another "No replacement for Displacement" bible thumper!! :-P I had that same conversation with so many guys back in the day, when all those 750's were kings of the racetrack and the 1000's were first coming out. Granted, initially the liter bikes were WAY HEAVIER so only thing they ruled was straight line...but not anymore (not since that 900RR back in 92)
@5UP from all the revieuws I have seen the aprilia rsv4 1100 factory and the new bmw s1000rr will smoke the ducati V4 S and R on the track , like you said the panigale has a chanse to tie itself into nots .... both the beemer and aprilia will be much easier to set good laptimes wich will smoke the ducati V4 .
@@644loic yeah about that that's why we get our own motorcycles and do our own reviews.. AR reviews are personal and do not get swayed by propaganda and buy sponsorships 😉
Both bikes are amazing but I LOVE my V4R! Meet us at Ducati Detroit on Saturday April 27th for another dyno shoot out!
Check out the WSBK Thailand 2019 to see the V4R dominate the track like 650ib!
WSBK needs to check the Hp on that doc,going down the straights way faster than anything on the track.
Ciao ragazzi, i have an oversized radiator for V4. Are you interested? From Italy.
Pity I can't make it to Detroit within a week - need new passport :-)
I might argue with the shop guys too much anyway :-)
...or design them a new force air and instrumentation package :-)
What is the cc of the R? 999?
The only place that you are making more power is in the additional RPM range....other than that the Speciale is KILLING IT. No replacement for displacement!!! If they hardened that motor to run the additional rev's it would be off the chart. Sorry but I believe that the Speciale would have an insurmountable lead in 90% of the smackdowns and the only time the V4R will be able to skywalk is in the VERY VERY top end runs. THe Speciale has 15-20 hp advantage for 85-90% of the meat of the rev range!! Thats INSANE!!! In a straight line the Speciale is gonna kill it, but on a track where you can stay in that gear and stay on the power without shifting would make the V4R superior as the track isnt all about acceleration, its about maintaining speed and maintaining momentum. Great video IB!!! THanks for sharing!!!
You're exactly right Sir! ❤️✔️💪
Speciale beats it on the track too. 7000rpm coming out of a corner and it's a drag race to the next corner. Speciale wins everywhere unless the straight is long enough to reel it back in.
@@Turbo329 only thing I did notice is exiting out of a corner but of course not on slicks the speciale struggles to get traction and put that torque down which upsets the chassis. I have heard the v4r is much smoother on corner exit which in that case could be faster 😉
But alas, the problem with adding displacement and revs becomes a big piston speed deal. You won't rev the 1103 as high as the 998.
@@Turbo329 If I had to guess I would say that the additional rev range will allow the R to not have to shift and will be able to maintain more momentum and "smoothness" on the track...but its just IMHO...I liken it to riding the curves with friends who have inline 4's when I had my RC51 (showing my age here), as while they were playing with gears I was basically able to just leave mine in 4th gear and power around pretty much anywhere, never shifting and just concentrating on my line...which made me a TON faster... Anyhow, its not going to matter, as you arent going to see them together on a track in competition unless they bring back Formula USA!! LOLZ Its the sole reason Ducati even made the thing....in order to be able to race 1000cc.
No surprise the 1100cc engine has more torque. But what amazed me was the dashes on the speedometer of the V4R in 5th with one gear left to go.
Hmmm it won't read past 186mph but it will definitely go faster.
@@dasansgunner true, that's a kind of gentleman agreement between manufacturers
Explicit Stoner But it will, because even though the speedometer stops, it continues to accelerate until about 191-193 ish
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i love ducati panigale v4 😍
Me too!
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The ducati V4 speciale is beautiful
I was so impressed till I seen that graph ... the v4 makes a lot more low mid range power yikes. I think we need to see a real world street comparison . Do a 60-199 roll race. And a quarter mile dig race to see what the bikes do. I’d love to see that happen 👍
60-199 roll race ✔️💪❤️
The speciale got significantly more power where you really need it ,that’s why he will smack the V4R unless it’s a straight endless road ..
I mean dont get me wrong, its a nice looking and sounding bike but correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this bike twice as expensive as a Kawasaki H2 and produces the same hp as a stock H2? Just saying?
Tom Rynkewicz it will burn the h2 on the track. As far as smack downs go you’re right though.
If you want a cheaper bike like this go with the new factory 1100 from aprilia. Similar power, similar v4 engine and looks better than an h2 tbh. 25k in the US
They are not in same category, kawa h2 is not N/A bike, plus this is duc(more exotic so there is the price for it)
H2 is not a track bike
damn that bang on plus 8hp the v4 speciale make 226 at the crank with the race kit and the v4r makes 234 at the crank which is 8hp 194-202 that 8 hp the 1100 panigale still make about more power 85 percent of the time but that also a bad thing i can keep the front end down while riding the v4r smother power delivery and winglet should help sort alot of that issue out
V4R 234HP💥💥💥🙏😍
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very interesting, goes to show as a road bike no replacement for cubes!
Haha, so you are saying a Harley Davidson engine performs better than these then?
That v4r is a absolute beauty. Wow great video
Haha I love this channel 650ib is the smack down king!! Been watching for a while now and it’s always fun and just straight savage!! Pink shift light FTW!
Thanks man! SAVAGE MODE!!!!
Doesn’t make sense they can’t show torque as horsepower is a function of torque at a given RPM. This was very informative. I want to see the RSV4 1100
Congrats on both these beautiful bikes and thanks for sharing! I would be proud to have either.
The v4 Speciale makes more power under the curve. blows my supersport away for sure!
Hmm where have I seen these curves before? Someone did a V4R slower than V4 video.....who was that lol?! Waiting for Steve to bring you a whoopin. I think we need to wager a snickers.
You'll never 👀 me and Steve racing but keep withing upon a 💫 I'm glad you're enjoying the 🎥's
@@650ib Why not ? Because of The weight difference ?
New bike built series s1000rr vs v4r dyno run plz
Yeah that would be CLOSE..cause I've seen the new BMW dynoed in person...208 hp The V4-S is a cheater bike at 1103cc but boy does that pull your freaking arms off !
10:20 WRONG.
Now I begin to understand why tune guys almost invariably think they can do better than the factory...
...with worse equipment, less training and under random atmospheric and airflow/ram conditions :'(
its not that they can do better then the factory in terms of performance its that factory tend to think about safty life of engine and reliabilty when they tuned there bikes ducati tuned the engine especially with the akra map with very rich map to keep the bike engine running cooler and more reliable the engien will still have to be able to go tens of thousands or even hundred thousand mile with proper maintaince brentuning has easily added 12hp to standard v4s with akra map but the long term consequence for the engine life is yet to be known
Damn, beast. Can't believe that thing spins up to 16k!! I remember when the 1199 doing 11.5k was a lot haha. I'm interested to see that aprilia, I'm trying to decide on the new s1000rr or that.
The V4R is a beautiful bike, but I love the low-end power on my V4 Speciale (the greatest bike of all time). It's nice to not have to rev to redline to get the extra torque. However, I would definitely like to see a video of someone actually taking advantage of that insane V4R power at 15,250 RPM. ;)
I doubt there are many people that have any idea what 200 horsepower to the wheel of a motorcycle means. I had 160 with my GSXR 1000 and that was ludicrous speed. Holy crap!!!
I was making 178 on my modified 2008 YZR-R1 with ram air back around 2009. Is 30 HP, 10 years and $33k really that impressive? Meh.
Why do you not wait until after a proper break in to do these heavy pulls on a new bike
I have a V4S and the book says no more than 5 to 6 thousand RPM for the first 600 miles red lining a new engine with breaking in oil seems crazy.
@@ianmetcalfe1788 yea man, that's what I was thinking
V4r 204hp
V4s 193hp
All i got from this is that you’re winning on either bike?... gotcha! 👌
Love that fat 1100 midrange... but if you're on the track or the autobahn... that R is a beast. Still waiting for that 1100 to drop into a Streetfighter... next year I think... next year!
Heck yeah!
Lol..Tune that Bike 650 !! Unleash that wild for the world to behold ! :
The Best way to Compare Hp maps by the two engines is to use percent of peak engine speed. Hence, both Hp maps will end at the same place and thus give a better comparison between the two. Torque, however is a little different. Since a Higher revving engine can be geared lower to reach the same speed, torque can be increased by gearing. Again, if both engine torque maps are done by percent engine max speed instead of rpm, then the higher revving engine's torque should be increased by multiplying percent increase of lower revving engine. Example: if one engine revs 20% higher than the other engine, than its entire torque range should be multiplied by 1.2... comparing engines by revs alone, is like comparing apples and oranges... That's why the "R" may have looked less potent than the "S"...
Sneaky sneaky....I knew this was coming couldn't wait!!!! Awesome sir.....
More dyno shoot out videos incoming Sir!
You can calculate torque from HP and RPM. HP = Torque*RPM ÷ 5252 - > Torque = HP *5252/RPM using ft-lbs for torque.
One thing I noticed here is that the V4R was tested in 5th gear. Maybe that's a dyno speed limitation but it's got an extra 500 rpm available in 6th which would no doubt add some ponies to that chart assuming the curve doesn't go flat (which I highly doubt).
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I'm confused. Horsepower is derived from torque. So how do you measure HP without knowing torque?
HP can be obtained from Torque and rpm, so they know both and computer does the calculation and gives hp as output
@@javedashraf19 so what is it calculating? Lol be said they couldn't get a torque reading because some module is not connected
@@randyschmidt19 power =Torque *angular velocity; there can measure torque on the dyno and they know the angular speed of the dyno
@@javedashraf19 ok. My point is that Dyno read the torque that's how it knows the horsepower
@@randyschmidt19 Dyno reads both torque on the dyno and rpm of dyno shaft, a quick google search should give you enough material to understand this
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Ducati are nice. They just don’t fit me.
Dope intro gotta like just from that!!
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I love your channel!! And your personality!! My favorite still is when you went to Texas to meet a$$hole by nature! Smack down on stretched bottled bike oh man I watch that vid at least twice a week lol ! Got em got em!! I say that when I pass other truckers in my 1980 dumptruck lol 😝
And when you smoked bottled busa, but daddy turbo zipped by lol when he talked smacked was absolute boss talk!! “ when you two are going at it I’ll just zip passed ya”!!! Lol
Those were awesome videos!
V4r is 1 hecka deal den the speciale. Hey IB wen ru getting ur s1000rr?
June
You can calculate torque from the formula
HP = (torque (in ft-lb) x RPM) / 5252
...It'll be out by the drivechain efficiency factor of course - but so will the horsepower reading :-)
Now we should wait for the new bmw s1000rr to do a dyno test
Coming in June
enjoyed the video!
Another small note. Should have had Nick do the pulls vs time. That would have told all the bench racing stories you would ever need. The HP is one thing, but if a bike is accelerating to top rpm 2 seconds faster.....thats your faster bike.
Man that's great. I might opt fr the better mid range performance. No egg on ducati face after they went to the V4 configuration. I wasn't impressed with the twin ducati. Can't knock the V4 tho. Ib, I love your channel man. Super great info for my own bike build. Thanks man. Props to your young mechanic too. He knows his stuff.
Thanks man!
When It's All Said And Done...The Better Rider Will Win The Smackdown!
Agreed
wait wait wait... last time you had the speciale on the dyno it made 198, 199hp. why is it lower now?
Different environmental factors mon Ami..
Most Impressive ". ! ! 1 Sweet V4R...
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@@650ib Your Dreaming Pretty well Buddy ". 🌏
horsepower and torque are directly related through rpm. You shouldnt need any more leads
Time to lean your v4r a little bit, there's some serious chicken strips on those tires!!
How much do you pay a month for insurance, Ib?
$350 per year per bike
You can calculate torque from HP and RPM. Look it up. You don’t need the leads.
Maybe the leads provide you with an accurate engine RPM reading. These runs were based on wheel speed instead of RPM :d
Yea. Hey Didn’t he say that the bike was fuel rich at high rpm?
That’s because the bike isn’t getting the ram air effect.
Probably has another 10-15 hp. Ram air is like a turbocharger.
Need more horses. Let's see the shootout with the 2019 H2R
Coming soon!
Plus you have to buy the titanium exhaust separate which will add another 8 to 10k.
Oh man!!! What a beast it is.....it's a shark with wings and gills
Sounds so incredible!! One day I'll ride a Ducati and share the excitement!
V4R are more sexier
At 09:50: Incorrect. Gearing doesn't change power, true. However it does change torque.
Power = Torque • RPM • Constant.
If torque increase and power remains the same RPM has to decrease.
Thus, yes gearing can fix that as what it would do is, itwould make the panigale R to make the same power as before, but at fewer RPM but with more torque.
650ib. Can you order the Headlight switch from a Ducati European dealer for the 2020 V4R so you can turn of the headlights when you want?
If so, is it plug and play with the US model?
I ask because on Manny's video from Motomillion.com his headlights were off on his V4X but his eyebrow lights were on when he started it. So I figured that race switch kit he used did that.
I want to if the stock switch from Europe would do the same thing
Thank you 650ib for overlaying both dyno graph's !!!!!!!
PS: You also need to account for the final drive ratio either way ... wheel RPM, power vs engine RPM, power.
Go to sleep? Not yet .... !! ♡
Torque is everything, the 1100 is faster all the way untill the last 1000 rpm, right? I prefer the 1100..
I could not believe how fast and powerful the V4-S is....amazing..and I never even got close to the redline...it just revved and revved..it's astonishing...I wonder how well the engine will hold up over many thousands of miles w/o grenading like the Desmosedici RR did ..quite often I should add...to the point where Ducati reps would tell owners to get their Demsosedicis balanced and blueprinted due to sloppy tolerances
@@jeffmays5393 Yes, is incredible how much power, not only this, almost all newer 1000rr bikes have (sadly Honda is not in the list) Even Suzuki have the gsxr 1000 RR Ryuyo with 210 hp on a 1000 inline 4. Aprillia V4 1100...too much for me, I still find difficult to handle the 165 rwhp of my Gixxer K6!!
Uuuugghh *drools* I want a v4r. I’ll be honest I’ve wanted a s1k for awhile but I’m not really liking the new look on them but after reading up on the v4r damn
Hey Ib, if you can somehow get the new bmw s1000rr m on the dyno, that would be great. A recent video completely floored the tester with 206 hp and 85 torque on a claimed low reading dyno.
I'm taking delivery of my 2020 S1000RR M in 2 weeks and will put it and my other bikes on the dyno. Stay tuned
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650ib stop constantly patting yourself in the back for buying a v4r lol we know its a sweet bike but honestly the speciale has better acceleration and handling overall better bike, the best roads are never straight.. . If a top end bike is what you want just buy a fuckin hayabusa lol just saying
Speciale is faster around a track then. hmmmm
The V4R is faster on a track..
@@spin_kick It really depends Travis. On a shorter more technical track they will be gearing the V4R much shorter to get the pop back off of the corners. At Daytona, sure, different story. MCN did a review a few years ago where they took the 2003 R6 and spanked the new one on the track because the mid-range was so much fatter on the old one it just jumped off the corners.
650ib Love your channel, keep up the great work
Thanks!
Was amazing to see!
Glad to meet you too!
Peep me in the window! Lmao
Nice to meet you too Joe ✔️
Bit worried how little power it is making compared to the claimed power. Lots of money for a bike that ends up being marginally more powerful than it's cheaper sibling
Claimed power by the manufacture is always bhp. Dynos are reading whp.
@@Snakes709 Yeah but the v4r is supposed to be much more powerful than the speciale and it isn't by far
@@adamhallwood5768 bro it is , 10 horspower more ...
Is this nick Marino from xplanertuning?
Yup ❤️
Speciale all day long - more rare - 1500 only made - looks better - plus you get so much more for the money!
Why is the V4R stopping you before the 16500 redline?
16500 RPM is only for 6th gear
@@BlackSw0rd15 5-6
Q: Why is the V4R stopping you before the 16500 redline? A: the FIM/WSBK has just docked 6-Fitty minus (-)250 RPM, and they DARE him to say something about it.
@@phillyphil1513 Probably reliability for the road. How many times would you need that extra 500 rpm?
I've read that the extra 500rpm the factory Yamaha MotoGP team had vs the satellite made the engine life 30% shorter... Sure that might be 17000 vs 17500 or so on a GP bike, but still, 10% reduction on a road bike its still 5-10k miles in some cases. (That might also be publicity as to justify as to why they didn't give 100% performance to them)
@@phillyphil1513 😂😂😂
am i the only one whos not a fan of the sound of the v4, i mean dont get me wrong, its fast af, but i prefer the f1 like sound of an h2 or a 1000rr
good video, would be better whithout that crappy music, id rather listen to the engines.
Speciale > R .... just my opinion
Would love to see how both the bikes change with a custom tune
Brentuning to the rescue.... Stay tuned
@@650ib When will there flash be available ? I am still waiting .
Good luck on Brenttuning. I been calling them on the V4 for a year now & there not progression at all. They blow you off & basically say when we get around to it we will do it. Well when. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN !!!~! WTF @@650ib
Ronald Davis just so you know, the tune is out now for the V4 from BrenTuning. They also were getting beta testers over a month ago.
Ronald Davis don’t know who you spoke with there but the info has been updated on the site about the release multiple times over the past few months
But i like so much v4 speciale:its realy amazing machine
0:46 stop staring at me from the side, you beast
You tuned it at 30 miles, and it needs another tune at 200 miles? Are these just tweaks?
I'm think of either of these two as next our purchase. Which is best ?
Interesting! The R is certainly killing it in WSBK now.
Indeed it is!
Yeah, with WSBK giving them more than 1000 extra revs over the competition lol what a joke. WSBK has always been about letting Ducati win by giving it concessions in the rules.
Why can't they rev along with Ducati ?? Maybe inferior design ? @@schumifan78
@@schumifan78 Kawasaki has won the last four championship titles by a long distance and so far only Bautista has been able to realize the potential of the V4 Panigale. Taking at least 2015-2018 into consideration I don't see an unfair advantage for Ducati.
I'm from India it's so shame to say but please help me just small 150 cc also
Why do you test the bikes in 5th gear? V4R has 500 more rpm in 6th
Why V4R is showing traction error???
Only when it's on the dyno
@@650ib oohh okay ....👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
My 2016 R1 is unacceptable, i gotta get a V4R, or a V4S. hahahaha. Seriously, i look fwd to seeing the 4R against the 1100 Aprilia V4 and the new BMW 1K. Seriously tho, i like the V4S/Speciale more than the R.
Thanks Josh!
Wow that mid range is killer
Indeed Sir 💪✔️❤️
Nice. One thing to remember, and you can see it on the video, the V4R spins up so much faster than the speciale. On the track, the V4R would kill the speciale.
I love V4.... 🏍🏍
wanna throw a few more ads in here lmao
The lack of midrange on the V4R. It's due to the cam design. Being that the V4R is being raced in WSBK with tight restrictions, Ducati really let the hammer down with the V4R. You want more power but want to maintain the same displacement? Add more revs. That cam at 8000 rpm even 10k rpm, is still bleeding off some compression (valve overlap), in order to allow that motor to breathe to 16,500. Doesn't seem like the power tapers off much either up top, so its definitely useable power and not all just overrev.
Awesome !
BM...…………. I wont say it . . . .but at half the price and 100 cc less engine capacity ?? I'm just saying ...
Yeah! I agree... but from my own income & money saved, that bimmer is greenlight, but the V4r? Yellow light about turn red with a long ass slow moving train passing through! Lol 😂
OK Dyno guru's, why is he only in 5th gear?
I am very impress with the horse power numbers indeed! I cant wait for Aprilia 1100 factory to be added tp your fleet. I dont think you will be disappointed base on specs on that beast.
Bro give me one motorcycle ,even Yamaha r15 also ,I'm tired of going to school in bus please help me ,god will give you more bless ,God said knook the door and god will open for you
I'm your biggest youtuber fan I always love to watch your video, God help you more bless thank you
now drag race them .
Ib what's the error lights is it because front wheel is stationery both bikes are beasts😊😊
Yup
Great video. And I seem to recall a certain somebody telling you the future outcome of this before the 998 v4r came out 😉
Indeed you did.... And now you have to ride my V4R and be amazed 💪💪💪💪👊🤓
HAHAHAH Another "No replacement for Displacement" bible thumper!! :-P I had that same conversation with so many guys back in the day, when all those 750's were kings of the racetrack and the 1000's were first coming out. Granted, initially the liter bikes were WAY HEAVIER so only thing they ruled was straight line...but not anymore (not since that 900RR back in 92)
@5UP from all the revieuws I have seen the aprilia rsv4 1100 factory and the new bmw s1000rr will smoke the ducati V4 S and R on the track , like you said the panigale has a chanse to tie itself into nots .... both the beemer and aprilia will be much easier to set good laptimes wich will smoke the ducati V4 .
@@644loic yeah about that that's why we get our own motorcycles and do our own reviews.. AR reviews are personal and do not get swayed by propaganda and buy sponsorships 😉
@@5up614 True ! But I do also
trust the guy's from 44teeth ; )
That intro beat is hard bro lol...Too bad I am team BMW s1000rr, but I love your channel...Much luv from Boston!
Thanks man! The new S1000RR is an amazing bike!