Coming to Tokyo, Japan to Buy His First Rolex: a GMT Master II Ref. 16710
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- A viewer journeys to Tokyo, Japan with the intention of buying his first Rolex.
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Where you been, we missed you!!!
Austin your videos are the best. I didn’t realize what my life was missing in the last few months until I saw this video.
Great to see Austin back!
Thank you for the episode, Austin. It's been too long 🎉
Good choice, good price and a lovely combination of holes case with solid end links. Well done Ted, for taking advice from the main man ! More of this content please Austin. 👍🏼
Welcome back GMT guru!
You're an excellent guide for this era of Rolex!!
I went to Nakano Broadway on March 13th as well and met you! Thanks for taking a few minutes to chat and recommend places to check. I was looking for a Yacht Master and ended up getting one from Watchnian.
It was great meeting you. Keep up the good work!
Great meeting you too, and glad the Yacht-Master worked out! Enjoy it!
I am heading to Japan in September, looking to buy my first Rolex as well. Either a gmt or an explorer 2 polar dial. Ultimate goal would be something from 1994 but open to find the best of price and condition.
I would love to connect if that fit your schedule. Or any advice would be amazing!
Thanks!
The hunk is BACK!!!!
Wow that Y serial 16710 is definitely the best find, especially at that price!! Congratulations Ted and good assist Austin!
we miss you austin
Glad to view this it's been awhile. Enjoy your insight and opinions on those GMT's.
Datejust and Explorer are on my "someday" list.
Just got back from Japan. Couldn’t find any fair deals on Rolex. Bought a Grand Seiko instead. I love it!
There is large selection in Japan’s
Oh shit-that’s sad
Got my GMT II for $120 in Thailand
I know the story from WatchBox 😆!
Hi Austin, good to see you, I'm still working in my first Rolex.
Hey mr austin i just want say thank you because of your video i bought one of the collection from your video 😊😊 because i believe all watch from your video is real
Thanks for watching - enjoy your new watch!
Excellent choice. You sure know how to source a watch.
Very nice congrats 🎉 lovely watch I have the 16700 what my dad left me 💙❤️.
Very nice!
A GMT is always the right choice. RootBeer GMTs rule the roost
man, austin , u should post more often. we miss some japanese rolex hunting/window shopping
Love an Austin video!!!
Hello Austin , glad you are back in town. This was very interesting. There should be more potential buyers that could use your professional expertise. The market in Japan seems to offer any model that has been around. 😊😊😊
Looking good Sports Fan….👍👍……Happy St Paddy’s Day ☘️🇮🇪💪🍀.
Same to you!!
nice choice congrats
Super Watch. Is ist a Problem to Switch the bezel often and how to get an Original Coke bezel, in Addition to the all black? Is ist possible to Switch ist on your Own?
It depends on the country, but certain Rolex Service Centers will allow you to swap out bezel inserts. Once you have other inserts, you can switch them yourself, but I don't recommend it. The play of the bezel has a certain feeling when you rotate it, and if you don't put it on just right it feels off.
Great to see you back in the wild at Nakano! I was visiting again (leaving tomorrow) with family and was about to pull the trigger on a watch (no, not the grail perfect fat lady) but had a super sour sales experience. Highly highly highly do not recommend Jubilee Watch in Shinsaibashi, Osaka. They're having a closing out sale and the guy just didn't want to deal with an English speaker, so they can go SMD
Thank you!
Sorry to hear that, Nathan. I've been watch shopping in Osaka once, but I can't remember if I went there. Sounds familiar, though.
Just stumbled upon your channel..
You are the first person to point out (or recognize) that the "batman" GMT was never meant to be.
You are right, it absolutely was Not. It was only intended to demonstrate that a ceramic Pepsi was in the works. But that news alone made just the batman a hit, and nowadays guys don't know why just that it still has that hype.
I'd love to share with you my understanding of the original Pepsi development for Pan AM, but this is not the place.
All that said, I could see Rolex leaving the Batman in the collection because it sells, and it's fewer Pepsis they need to distribute.
The notoriety of the Pepsi really helps Rolex as a brand in general, with only perhaps the Daytona helping them equally.
Good explanation on the Batman 👍👍cheers ~
And nice choice on your friend's GMT. Congrats. I'm wearing my 57yr old GMT, as i have for most of those decades 🍻 ~
Thanks for the comments - glad that BLNR threory resonated with you.
I went to nakano today and was hoping to see you there :(
Man, I would love to go watch shopping with Austin when I take that bucket list vacation in Japan. Love your videos, have watched every one.
Nice! I'm in Tokyo in a month and looking at potentially purchasing something, so you videos have been great.
he could not have had a better watch-pro with him on the hunt. ( I second , mr. London - don't be a stranger ! ). ~ JDS/CT
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I just can't bring myself to pay over retail for a 20 year old watch.
These are really great watches on the wrist that hold value and make great heirlooms. Thinness and weight is key to me, and older watches are a delight.
…..and run the risk of buying a fake Rolex on the gray market as well. They are cloned so perfectly now thus very hard to spot a fake.
I'm going to Tokyo in 3 weeks. Hoping to find a all black bezel GMT II as well. Always like the black bezel over those pepsi or coke.
Correct on the DJ dials….the Palm Motif and the Fluted Motif will be discontinued. I have been informed by my AD nearly a month ago as I am on the waitlist for both. They will offer me an elevated position on a new dial if I like one.
Interesting - you're now the 3rd person to mention the discontinuation of those two dials. I wonder what the replacement ones will be?
Clown dials are NOT the way to go.
I am coming in September and would be interested in buying my first Rolex, looking for a gmt or explorer 2 polar
I’m not seeing the differences in polishing. Can someone explain what to look for specifically?
Whilst initially happy with his purchase, I sense Ted will wish he had opted for a Coke or Pepsi GMT.
I've never really seen the point in an LN bezel. The day night split is part of the functionality, right?
I love my 2001 Coke on Oyster. A keeper.
I'm sure that, in time, he'll want to add the other inserts, and maybe a Jubilee bracelet as well. Being able to do that is one of the best aspects of having a 16710.
What I like about the bicolored bezel inserts is, besides the bit of color, that the color transitions can be used to time 15 minute intervals in a way the at the All-black doesn't allow. But, I do love the toned down aesthetic of the All-black.
Whenever I think I've settled on a favorite insert my feeling changes to the extent that I can't commit to one. I've got Coke inserts on mine at the moment, but as of late I've been fiending for that anodized blue of the Pepsi!
How much would be a nice datejust with jubilee bracelet (box and paper) in Japan ?
Im planning to visit soon and may need your help !
not even a service insert just get a vintage period correct insert. I have all 3 faded and perfect serif font
I’m coming to Akasak next week to buy 3 Rolex
Which 3 do you have in mind?
What store is this? Going to japan next month
Hi Austin. May I know how much does it cost to buy the new jubilee bracelet for GMT 16710 in Japan Rolex Service Centre?
I'm not sure if the prices have changed since I got mine, but it's around 1500 USD.
@@watchsymposium thx a lot!
Hey Austin. Are you going to do another live stream on Rolex release day in April? Would be great if you did so we could all join you?? Let us know 🙏
I've gotten the word on the exact time the releases will hit the Rolex website, so we'll see.
Ok great. Looking forward to joining you live. 😊 Will you advertise it in good time prior to streaming?
I have to look at my schedule to see if I can do it. But assuming I can, yes, I'll make a video giving everyone a heads-up.
Still have no idea the cost in dollars
Austin nice to have you back. You got Ted a nice 16710 from Kamekichi if I'm not mistaken, looking at their distinctive price tag. Do they still charge 3% for card purchases? Great retailer but that's my only gripe.
Thanks! I think they must have changed that. I certainly hope so - that 3% can really add up!
White Day.. coming to an America near you lol
is a M16710LN good for $12,980?
Unless the watch you're referring to is new ,old stock, then I would say 13k is waaaay over priced.
I have a 16710 Coke for sale. Year 2001. Full set.
Would the old Cokes go up in price or down if they release a new Coke?
If we have to go to japan a rolex,perhaps we have buy a casio in new york for buy a casio?
I am sick, sick, sick of hearing about the Rolex Pepsi. Why can't you Rolex reviewers make a video that doesn't mention it?
i have a GMT 2 i bought in 2000. Unfortunately I no longer have the box or the serial number cards. But I do have the payment receipt and a letter from the shop I bought it from stating all the numbers etc. What do you think I could get for it. It does need a service, but in good condition.
I'd have to see it to give you a good estimate. But if you do have it serviced, I'd consider not getting it polished. There's a growing number of people that appreciate virgin pieces, and once a piece has hit the polishing wheel it loses something that can never be recovered.
16700 or 16710?
We talked about a 16700, but Ted liked the jump hour hand and the idea of a Coke insert in the future.
@@watchsymposium which one is your favorite between these two watches?
That's a tough choice, but I'd go with the 16710 for the reasons above. But, I really like the fact that the 16700 is 1mm thinner. You can't go wrong with either.
Which shops do you recommend in Nakano areas for GMT? I’m familiar with Kame-Kichi, Jack Road, and Watchnian in Shinjuku. Any others for fine virtually untouched pieces? TIA.
I don't recommend any particular shop, I go for the best piece at the best price. There are gems in pawnshops, and stock in stores are always changing, so I think that's a better approach.
How can the tag tell you if it was born Pepsi or Coke?
Not all green tags have that information - it depends on the country where the AD that originally sold the watch was located.
But on the tags that do have that information the color code of the insert will follow the reference number. For example an All-black would be 16710LN.
Thank goodness Austin decided to film in an environment similar to the batcave.
The bezel insert on a Y serial should be Fat font serif. This is a service insert
No, they transitioned from the fat font serif inserts to the thin font sans-serif inserts during the Y serials, so this insert is period correct.
It doesn't rule out that it could be a service insert, but that could be said of any 16710 from the F serials onward. For what it's worth, the green tag stated that it was born an All-black.
@@watchsymposiumi have actually checked my database and you are right the Y serial is the serial where it transitioned from fat font serif to thin font / service. So it could be either of those. I would have preferred the other one with black serif bezel insert. Serif inserts have much more charm!
Thank you for checking - I appreciate your confirmation.
Yes, I tend to prefer the serifs too. But Ted originally wanted a Coke or a Pepsi, and this will allow him to get service inserts of those types, and still be in the realm of period correct.
Hello my old friend🍣💕
Hey man!
where? nakano!! yes!
Hi Austin, how’s the stocks in ADs in Japan? Is it difficult for a foreigner to purchase a Rolex from an AD in Japan?
I haven't been to an AD in ages, but I'm almost certain that there's still no stock. I'll have to check, though.
Why Rolex buys always cash ?
Women give presents to men on valentine's day and men return the favor on white day to the one woman he chooses.
Or all of the women, if he doesn't want to be a jerk.
@@watchsymposium You should definitely gift all the women if it is clear that you are not intending to dating them.
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always the same topic, it's getting boring
😂yup! Looking at the same shit over and over again but saying different things as if Rolex changed their designs😂.
That's lunacy😂
Pointless not giving uk or us prices
Currency values fluctuate, and everybody seems to want to know the prices in their local currency, so it's easier if everyone just Googles it.
The Pepsi issue is due to the blue color. The blue doesn’t cover the red well enough during the sintering process. Because it doesn’t bind as well, as you say, it can break during service. The black works which is why we see it on all the other GMTs.
H Austin!!!! I Missed your videos my brother. How are you doing? Are you still doing live streams?
Hey man, good to hear from you! No, I haven't done a live stream in ages. But new watches are one they way come Watches and Wonders, so maybe around then.
@@watchsymposium Awesome I'll keep an eye on your channel and I'll do some research about new stuff to get up to date in the meantime. Will definitely join your stream like in the old days .
Bought a gmt 2001 16710 in Japan back in 2002. Mint condition
That's back when the sold the 16710 at authorized dealers, and they were actually available! Wish I had picked one up then!
Great to have you back!!!
Here in the Atlanta area I see lots of Explorer 2 Polars, def. seems to be gaining popularity over the last 18 months or so.
Thank you, Austin!
Austin is a legend.
Good stuff
Glad you are back. I was in Nakano today!
Me too
4:38 it was never meant to be what? The blnr is preferred by a lot over the Pepsi including myself. In fact, if you check most Rolex forums and the Rolex subreddit, you'll quickly realize that it's 50/50. About half of people prefer the batman over the Pepsi. It's nowhere near as schewed as you make it out to be. That is the case at my ADs as well. The SAs tell me the batman is just as popular if not more popular at at certain ADs.
Meaning that if they could have achieved the traditional colors at the time, I'm not sure that they would have opted for the BLNR color scheme at all. My theory is that it was just the best/easiest bicolored ceramic insert that they could do. If, at that time, any ceramic color combination was possible, I'm not sure they BLNR would have ever existed. Just speculation on my part, of course.
As for the desirability between the two, just check out the preowned and grey market prices for each. Sure, you have your BLNR proponents - I'm one of them! - but the BLRO goes for thousands more.
The whole point of talking about this is to speculate about which, the BLNR or the BLRO, will be the first to go. If you were a betting man, which would you say?
Just bought an all black 16710 Y serial from Nakano on my recent trip! Love it. Was able to narrow down a good quality version with full set, light polishing, holes case! thanks to you Austin!
That's great - I love Y serials, which my Explorer 2 is too. Enjoy your new watch, Sam!
Crazy question, I’m a fan of your channel. I plan on being in Tokyo next year in February, I have a layover for 2 days but I’m really in a Rolex Daytona, a white dial two tone will be ideal but the Steeliest are also great, how much would I be looming at price wise for a complete set?
Looming at...nice phrasing there. Probably 6000 USD, with me, on a good day.
Great to see another video from you Austin and congrats to Ted for his great new all black GMT
Thanks man - good to see you!
Give me a break with papers
Who cares just buy the watch
I just got back from Japan with the yen so weak right now prices were incredible! I picked up my first Daytona for a screaming deal! Akihabara was the best for watches!
did u goto japan to buy the Rolex bc of conversion rates?
Quite a few people are these days, yes.
$1M yen / $6K Usd .. !
If a Black and Red GMT is coming it would make sense the supply of the Pepsi slows or dries up for a bit as the base colour for both bezels is Red. Rolex will need all the Red bezels they can get their hands on to build inventory of the ‘coke’ ready for its release.
Don’t forget the GRNR. It would look great on a stainless steel.
they are reli too expensive you can get a better deal and more option in hong kong
can you explain this polishing more?
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Austin - do you do any type of in person consulting for purchases? Coming to Tokyo the week after next, looking to pick up a few items. Would love to have the expertise on hand for a few hours. Let me know.
Yes, I do - shoot me an email (my address is in the description), and I'll get back to you.
can you do a shopping video, love them :)
which store in Nakano did you visit? thanks
what the cost in usa dollar hello
I’m going to Tokyo. Can we meet in June to buy a Rolex?
Send my an email, and we'll see. My address is in the description.
Now he’s going to want the Pepsi, lol.