I am a Vietnam vet and consider Mr. Ellsberg a hero just as I also consider Snowden one. As a retired military pilot I was able to see that truth really is the first casualty of conflict as the military appears to absolutely enjoy lying and deceiving their own people and themselves.
While what you say about the fragility of truth is true, you owe it to yourself to read "Will the Real Daniel Ellesberg Please Stand Up" by Douglas Valentine. Ellesberg was a CIA agent whose job it was to deflect blame from the CIA for all the early war year failures, and put it on the military, who bore the brunt of the later war years.
Col. J Fletcher Prouty was in it up to his eyeballs until he retired 1963 > "the Pentagon Papers were a compilation of documents designed to paint President John F. Kennedy as the villain of the story [that fdr ike jfk backed the french/cia covert invasions of Indochina] , and to shield the role of the CIA…. This massive compilation of official documents produced by Secretary McNamara’s “task force…to study the history of United States involvement in Vietnam from World War II to the present” (1969) totally ignored the assassination [of President Kennedy]. The Pentagon Papers say simply, “Lodge confers with the President,” as though it were just another day in the life of a President. Which President? Didn’t that matter? What a way to dismiss Kennedy and his tragic death! This entire section of the Pentagon Papers, which were commissioned to be a complete account of the history of the Vietnam war period, cannot find a word to say about that assassination. This official history simply skips all mention of the death of the President of the United States and tells the story of the death of Diem as though it had occurred in a vacuum." See L. Fletcher Prouty, JFK The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy (Birch Lane Press, 1992, First Edition), pages 272 - 283.
@@nathanhoag5561 You best be getting your heels together when you ask that question. And if you don't know what that means then you don't deserve the freedom the OP gave up so you could ask.
While reading the Pentagon Papers recently, I was amazed how illuminating they were for understanding the gov't's actions today. A lot of the wilder "conspiracy theory" accusations against contemporary US gov't don't seem either wild or unfounded when seen against these documented secret actions from 40+ years ago.
Not one person mentions all the military secrets (even famous cases like Cuban Missile Crisis) which by virtue of their secrecy, saved our lives. This sanctimonious outpouring against secrecy per se is really just a mistaken outpouring against Nixon and people's beliefs about the Viet Nam war.
I just saw The Most Dangerous Man tonight at a theater in Santa Monica, CA. Ellsberg was on hand to answer questions afterwards. At his age, I have to say, he is all there, smart and sharp as ever. It's difficult to imagine a more engaged and astute observer of the political scene as it was and is today. He had much to say about Afghanistan. I got to shake his hand. I told him it was an honor to have heard him speak.
What a beautiful opportunity and privilege that must’ve been. I cannot believe I was here at that time and had no idea this was happening or I would’ve been there with bells on.
1983.. Someone gave me map of Vandenberg Airforce base. It had an X over the MX missle. Guards thought I was a leader. When arrested, I was privileged to be in a private room with Daniel Ellsberg.
Not one person mentions all the military secrets (even famous cases like Cuban Missile Crisis) which by virtue of their secrecy, saved our lives. This sanctimonious outpouring against secrecy per se is really just a mistaken outpouring against Nixon and people's beliefs about the Viet Nam war.
Dear Daníel! We met in Vienna, Austria, where I had the privilege to organize a conference in honor of your achievements in economics. One man can make a change - you are the living proof! It takes knowledge, wisdom, a strong woman behind a man and of course an extrem amount of braveness. I am so proud that I met you and will never forget how charming and modest you have been/you are. Peace and Cheerio from Austria, Vienna - Marion Kelemen P.S.: Don't understand why you didn't get the "Oscar"
I am Vietnamese and I would like to say that I am deeply grateful to Mr D Ellsberg to have saved millions of my compatriots from miseries of war as without him the war would not have ended that 1975 year!
People of values do not play mind games, indirect games, or pretense. They put their face, name forward and speak openly, eloquently, and honestly of the truth, even at the price of their own freedom and public image. Daniel Ellsberg and Edward Snowden are truly one in a billion, one of a kind in the most pure of ways.
The lesson to be learned from Vietnam is that we were maneuvered into it by the CIA, specifically by way of its 34A plans which led to the Gulf of Tonkin. American ships and aircraft launched unprovoked attacks on North Vietnam in order to force a reaction which our side would say they started. Read pp. 234-239 from "The Pentagon Papers". And also p. 41 and pp. 70-73 from "The Secret Team". We can conclude the agency operates outside the law and civilian control, representing an ongoing threat to undermine U.S.foreign policy in the pursuit of its own goals.
Thank you for this. My rose colored glasses have been removed. My poor Dad 4 years in Vietnam! NEVER talked about it. Awful night terrors. I'm so sorry I didn't know anything until I was grown.
1983.. Someone gave me a map of Vandenberg Airforce base. It had an X over the MX missle. Guards thought I was a leader. When arrested, I was privileged to be in a private room with Daniel Ellsberg.
Not one person mentions all the military secrets (even famous cases like Cuban Missile Crisis) which by virtue of their secrecy, saved our lives. This sanctimonious outpouring against secrecy per se is really just a mistaken outpouring against Nixon and people's beliefs about the Viet Nam war.
This needs to be a class in US High School, maybe even middle, so everyone has to hear it once, before they have a chance to drop out n tune out. Then things might change. Most he stated from 2002, flourished over the past nine years. : (
tweet him..spread his vids over every social media and blog...lets Show our appreciation for their efforts by Spreading the truths they risked and sacrificed to give us
My older brother who was fifteen months older than me spent parts of 1969, 1970 and 1971 in Vietnam while in the U.SM.C. He never spoke about his experience however I noticed that he was changed and I never pressed him on it. He was never evaluated for PTSD prior to or after completing his four year commitment. Knowing that my brother and others were put in harms way by the lies of five US presidents pains me that my country didn’t change based on our unjust invasion and destruction of Iraq. My brother was murdered in 1989.
I served TAD on the USS Turner Joy sometime after this event but NO ONE I met believed they were fired upon by the North Vietnamese Navy in Aug. '64 and Robert McNamara has testified those attacks were FALSE. LBJ started a war for blood and profit. Nixon was elected in '68 with the promise to end the war in Vietnam but it only ended in '75 with the fall of Saigon AFTER Nixon resigned in disgrace.
A Scholar and Author, DANIEL ELLSBERG is no more, he expired at the age of 92. I listened to his speech on 'Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers' Here we find out about the Authority to run the USA. AMERICA is a Democratic Country under the Presidential system with huge Military Strenght. I love the USA.
Numbers 23:10 “Who can count the dust of Jacob, and the number of the fourth part of Israel? Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like his!” . Daniel Ellsberg married the daughter of my childhood War Toy King, Louis Marx. He never again spoke to either of them. I protested the Kent State killings in 1970, so Dad came up to Northwestern, got into heated arguments with me and my frat brothers, then cut off financing. So, stupidly, to supplement my academic scholarship, I volunteered for the draft, thinking to get the greatest potential financial gain from the shortest amount of time invested. in 1971 the conflict was cooling, and I was an existentialist and a rebel, so ended up in the MPs and both the AMERICAL and 101st Airborne a combat infantryman. I never went back to NU, but was "born again" in 1973 and my life was radically changed by repentance towards God, and faith in Jesus Christ. Used the G.I. Bill twice. Married twice. Fathered nine. Fostered one Vietnamese boy. Started studying the Viet conflict after seeing THE FOG OF WAR ((McNamara)) and SIR, NO SIR! ((Jane Fonda)). As a disciple of Jesus Christ, I count myself a saint and a child of God according to Holy Scriptures. The Holy Bible is my infallible guide and Owner's manual, and has much to say about true peace to those with ears to hear ...
Somewhere along the way, I'm thinking after WWII... this government adopted the idea that they (those in charge) are as powerful as Caesar was in ancient times and those on Capital Hill have run with that idea. It got really bad with Bush and went down hill from there. America (the government) has developed the idea that they are greater than any other country, as well as more powerful than any other country therefore, we can do whatever we want and if they (other countries) don't like it, we'll declare war and simply wipe them out. With that being said, every time I hear a politician talk about terrorists, it comes to mind that the only terrorists on this planet is the government of the United States and the military it controls. I hate to think that way because I'm American however, being ex-military... I know full well what this government is capable of committing.
+Texas Hi-Railer Well said and I totally agree with you. When WWII began most Americans did not want any involvement. In 1941, after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, FDR was the last President to ask congress to declare war. Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan, Iraq: technically, those were not wars. Those conflicts, and other in between, are considered “Extended Military Engagements.” President Obama too has been selective about the way he uses the word “war” in the build-up to today’s situation with the Islamic State in Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS). Now no one cares who our military or mercenaries kill. I never have understood why congress by passing the Tonkin Gulf resolution gave the President the right to attack anyone, removing constitutional restraints on his power. But now Americans are surprised when people we arrack dislike or attack us, when we believe we are giving them a fake democracy to control them.
No one remembers Under secretary of State Paul Wolfowitz' roll in involving us in Iraq. He was the first to loudly advocate this just after 9-11. Guess what position he took just after leaving the Bush administration? President of the IMF. Robert S. McNamara's disastrous engagement policies prolonged the Vietnam war, making the banksters richer. Guess what position he took after he left the LBJ administration? President of the World Bank!
Since I was the only person to ever hold the position that I held, I decline to tell you since others with only a slight investigation would know who I am and I prefer the protection of anonymity. However, my area provided support services for the BOD and the senior executives for meetings, special events and off sites. I worked directly with the heads of the LOBs and the corporate execs and the board. There were a few and ONLY a few with whom I have respect.
It is precisely because of elective wars like world war I and vietnam that people were so reticent to fight necessary wars. Some "necessary" wars, like world war II, would have been extraordinarily unlikely without the destruction, economic and political, of world war I.
The untenable notion that we could militarily prevail in Vietnam represents an epic blunder of the highest level. The percentage of the population that came to oppose this notion became much larger and far more vocal.
Good on you Mr. Ellsberg. We really appreciate what you are doing. New Year's resolution for us all - free Bradley Manning. Peace and love to everyone. :)
"War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it. " quote by Desiderius Erasmus 15th-16th century Dutch philosopher, Christian scholar and humanist. High positioned public officials, wealthy individuals and their children, war profiteers, US and other countries' Generals and the like , love war yet never fight in a war or have been under fire in a war .
Like John Wayne, Rush Limbaugh, Trump--"chicken hawks," all.. I don't know who originated this, but there is an old saying that "all wars are popular for the first six months."
@@viktoriaironpride4977 Lyndon Johnson, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Robert Mcnamara.... Ect It's a bipartisan thing. I was going ho as a young man and joined the army. I thought protesters were traitors. It wasn't until I actually researched this BS that I came around. Vietnam and Iraq were criminal.
I don't understand how Kennedy could have realistically believed that the U.S. military advisory group (MAAG) could defeat a million man North Vietnamese army. Vietnam was a lost cause from the beginning and it did not take a genius (although Ellsberg WAS a genius) to see it.
Where did you hear that stuff about kennedy? He was for derscalation and a political solution in vietnam. Ellsberg is talking about 1964 and president Johnson. He and nixon send in the military bases on lies... Did you even watch the talk?
@@tunafish8769 JFK gave an interview with Walter Cronkite. In it he said that the war is not going well and that while we can arm the South, and train them, that it is their (South Vietnam's) war and *they* have to win it. While we can never be sure, JFK did push against military pressure in other areas such as whether or not to invade Cuba (a theater where JFK had been burned by poor military advice and from which he also learned).
Prouty > "the Pentagon Papers were a compilation of documents designed to paint President John F. Kennedy as the villain of the story [that fdr ike jfk backed the french/cia covert invasions of Indochina] , and to shield the role of the CIA…. This massive compilation of official documents produced by Secretary McNamara’s “task force…to study the history of United States involvement in Vietnam from World War II to the present” (1969) totally ignored the assassination [of President Kennedy]. The Pentagon Papers say simply, “Lodge confers with the President,” as though it were just another day in the life of a President. Which President? Didn’t that matter? What a way to dismiss Kennedy and his tragic death! This entire section of the Pentagon Papers, which were commissioned to be a complete account of the history of the Vietnam war period, cannot find a word to say about that assassination. This official history simply skips all mention of the death of the President of the United States and tells the story of the death of Diem as though it had occurred in a vacuum." See L. Fletcher Prouty, JFK The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy (Birch Lane Press, 1992, First Edition), pages 272 - 283.
RIP and we hope that those who work in public service and those who plan to are inspired by you, inspired to truly serve the ppl and to blow the whistle when the government is about to do more harm than good.
@@psilvakimo A real attack on August 2, while the second attack on August 4 likely never occurred. What I never learned in college (could be on me) was that the second attack was considered doubtful right away rather than years later. There is even a recording of LBJ acknowledging this.
Iam a vietnamese. So in the Vietnam war,my view,bcós of the hard information between the world and Vietnam.It's hard to find the true information,this is a main reason that why most of American people didnt knew the fake of Vn war.if they know that,maybe,Vietnam war could finish soon.
My thoughts on this is that in the 50’s and 60’s, the US government probably was never going to tell the public what their true intentions were for national security. As vindictive as the lying was, it would have been worse if they gave details to everyone. Do people like that? No, but just my opinion on the Pentagon Papers.
Assange was about to be arrested by the Swedish government for some phony sex charge and not the release of information. Remember too he also was crossing the Clintons. Ellsberg never faced any such death sentence and he had a very compliant media protecting him. FDR has also been exposed for his complicity in Pearl Harbor by reputable historians. Thomas Dewey was going to expose FDR during the 1944 presidential campaign, but was persuaded not to or it would have a bad affect on the moral of our troops. Dewey rightfully withdrew the issue.
Taken in light of what Americans used as their yardstick for crimes against humanity and war crimes as applied against Germans in Nuremberg , what Americans themselves conducted executing their political agenda by resorting to armed intervention in Vietnam should see many from top US planners to field commanders as Westmorland facing war crimes trial in Hague .
@shillyshallyz What makes you think that I was talking about the US in particular. I could if you wish, but you have shown the exact attitude that gets the US into so much trouble and to be quite honest with you, you deserve to bear responsibility every single US death that has occured through the promulgation of 'might is right'.
I also recomend the book RED HEAT, Conspiracy, murder and the Cold War in the Caribbean by a british writer named Alex Von Tunzelman. Henry Holt & Company LLC
@shillyshallyz You're talking about events that lead to war, however I'm talking nabout the psychology behind the why wars begin. Fear of showing weakness in front of an aggressor or the larger world is the biggest cause of war.
Good thing I know what UCSB because I would otherwise have no idea where this was held. Also, there is no specific referential date for this speech. Here's one of THE greatest heroes in the United States and he is given about zero consideration here on YT. I'd really like to know exactly when this presentation was made. 10/25/2002
Col. Prouty > "the Pentagon Papers were a compilation of documents designed to paint President John F. Kennedy as the villain of the story [that fdr ike jfk backed the french/cia covert invasions of Indochina] , and to shield the role of the CIA…. This massive compilation of official documents produced by Secretary McNamara’s “task force…to study the history of United States involvement in Vietnam from World War II to the present” (1969) totally ignored the assassination [of President Kennedy]. The Pentagon Papers say simply, “Lodge confers with the President,” as though it were just another day in the life of a President. Which President? Didn’t that matter? What a way to dismiss Kennedy and his tragic death! This entire section of the Pentagon Papers, which were commissioned to be a complete account of the history of the Vietnam war period, cannot find a word to say about that assassination. This official history simply skips all mention of the death of the President of the United States and tells the story of the death of Diem as though it had occurred in a vacuum." See L. Fletcher Prouty, JFK The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy (Birch Lane Press, 1992, First Edition), pages 272 - 283.
The Bible says, "If you dig a pit for someone else, you fall into it yourself I see Nixon fell into his own pit! Again, the Bible proves Truth! All you have to do is wait a little while and they will all be judged!
If everyone in positions of influence with a conscience went even a fraction as far as Daniel Ellsberg to defend and expose the truth of the condition we have blindly allowed ourselves to be penned into, that condition would not exist. Plus TV would be what it was intended to be for; to inform as well as entertain, as well as grow up!
"blindly led into," indicates you can't see the forest for the trees. We are left with a legacy of mistakes from our parents, grandparents etc. that we have been left to uncover and clean up. Likening international politics to some sort of parent child interaction is reductionist (lazy at best and ignorant at worst). Stick with pop culture and fashion sites, as you have no place in politics or international policy discussions
@okeleke1 What would you reckon about the role of Canada in the Vietnam War? I just dug up this: copy and Google: • Quiet Complicity: Canadian Involvement in the Vietnam War. Victor Levant ???
I have observed that "automatic translation" is not so automatic... its being DELIBERATELY mistranslated in order to confuse the people like me who are watching this (and others) documentarys. There are some interest that does not want you to know some inconvenients truths!! SHAME ON YOU TUBE!
I think it's really terrible to blame the soldier who is standing in the line of fire and trying to do something we have to follow the line of command so the commanders have to be responsible not the soldiers if they ran away and they deserted then that's another thing
The U.N.charter is NOT part of the Constitution of the United States, therefore the U.N. Charter is NOT the supreme law of the U.S. land. The Constitution of the United States is
So how is that relevant or in line with the US consitution if the policy makers lie to congress and the public to start a war? If the war is based on a lie and you invade a foraign nation thats indeed a case for the UN.
This guy is the living hero/ledgend that more than epitomizes that true American spirit of freedom, fighting for the truth against all prevailing forces of control and disinformation; and with the very real possibility of those forces decending upon him with all the might and ferocity of the established hierarchicle powers lit among those temple institutions of the very nation's capital,,,,,,,,,,,,, Now THAT is a hero!! And we should be attentive to every word issued from his vast ocean of critical information. Within his former position of power he himself, being witness to the true corrupt situation soon did a complete about face and through a devoted loyalty to the true leaders of our nation (it's citizens) did immediately expose the dirty secrets in the most public forum available, the television media broadcasting system.
MY GREAT RESPECT TO REAL HUMAN BEING WITH AN OPEN MIND AND THE COURAGE TO LET EXPOSE THE REALITY OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE SLATER OF INOCENT HUMAN BEINGS IN VIETNAM. TO OTHERS IT WAS JUST AN ACT OF ANTIPATRIOTEC. THIS KIND OF IGNORANT AND MANIPULATED BEINGS DO NOT HAVE MIND OF THEIROWN AND PROBABLY THE SADES PART OF IT THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING EVER UNDERSTAND HOW DEEP AND DARK LOCK OF REAZON.
Logevall is a struggling actor posing as a teacher of history. This is why our students are so f up’ed. Also he is a book huckster and star f’er. Wake up students, you are the purchasers of “book tour” products. Ellsburg was a simpleton in the 60’s and has only gotten worse. It doesn’t take a genius to run a xerox machine.
Check out "Dark Persuasion - The History of BRAINWASHING from Pavlov to Social Media" here: th-cam.com/video/bWl8FXhdEio/w-d-xo.html
I am a Vietnam vet and consider Mr. Ellsberg a hero just as I also consider Snowden one. As a retired military pilot I was able to see that truth really is the first casualty of conflict as the military appears to absolutely enjoy lying and deceiving their own people and themselves.
What "truth" do you believe in? This entire set up is absolute garbage.
While what you say about the fragility of truth is true, you owe it to yourself to read "Will the Real Daniel Ellesberg Please Stand Up" by Douglas Valentine. Ellesberg was a CIA agent whose job it was to deflect blame from the CIA for all the early war year failures, and put it on the military, who bore the brunt of the later war years.
Col. J Fletcher Prouty was in it up to his eyeballs until he retired 1963 > "the Pentagon Papers were a compilation of documents designed to paint President John F. Kennedy as the villain of the story [that fdr ike jfk backed the french/cia covert invasions of Indochina] , and to shield the role of the CIA….
This massive compilation of official documents produced by Secretary McNamara’s “task force…to study the history of United States involvement in Vietnam from World War II to the present” (1969) totally ignored the assassination [of President Kennedy]. The Pentagon Papers say simply, “Lodge confers with the President,” as though it were just another day in the life of a President. Which President? Didn’t that matter? What a way to dismiss Kennedy and his tragic death! This entire section of the Pentagon Papers, which were commissioned to be a complete account of the history of the Vietnam war period, cannot find a word to say about that assassination. This official history simply skips all mention of the death of the President of the United States and tells the story of the death of Diem as though it had occurred in a vacuum." See L. Fletcher Prouty, JFK The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy (Birch Lane Press, 1992, First Edition), pages 272 - 283.
@@nathanhoag5561 You best be getting your heels together when you ask that question. And if you don't know what that means then you don't deserve the freedom the OP gave up so you could ask.
I would also include Chelsea Manning in that conversation.
While reading the Pentagon Papers recently, I was amazed how illuminating they were for understanding the gov't's actions today. A lot of the wilder "conspiracy theory" accusations against contemporary US gov't don't seem either wild or unfounded when seen against these documented secret actions from 40+ years ago.
I suggest Chalmer Johnson's "empire trilogy".
We need Trump back asap
Not one person mentions all the military secrets (even famous cases like Cuban Missile Crisis) which by virtue of their secrecy, saved our lives. This sanctimonious outpouring against secrecy per se is really just a mistaken outpouring against Nixon and people's beliefs about the Viet Nam war.
I just saw The Most Dangerous Man tonight at a theater in Santa Monica, CA. Ellsberg was on hand to answer questions afterwards. At his age, I have to say, he is all there, smart and sharp as ever. It's difficult to imagine a more engaged and astute observer of the political scene as it was and is today. He had much to say about Afghanistan.
I got to shake his hand. I told him it was an honor to have heard him speak.
Maybe the last time we are seeing integrity in the press.
What a beautiful opportunity and privilege that must’ve been. I cannot believe I was here at that time and had no idea this was happening or I would’ve been there with bells on.
1983..
Someone gave me map of Vandenberg Airforce base. It had an X over the MX missle.
Guards thought I was a leader. When arrested, I was privileged to be in a private room with Daniel Ellsberg.
Not one person mentions all the military secrets (even famous cases like Cuban Missile Crisis) which by virtue of their secrecy, saved our lives. This sanctimonious outpouring against secrecy per se is really just a mistaken outpouring against Nixon and people's beliefs about the Viet Nam war.
Dear Daníel!
We met in Vienna, Austria, where I had the privilege to organize a conference in honor of your achievements in economics.
One man can make a change - you are the living proof! It takes knowledge, wisdom, a strong woman behind a man and of course an extrem amount of braveness. I am so proud that I met you and will never forget how charming and modest you have been/you are. Peace and Cheerio from Austria, Vienna - Marion Kelemen
P.S.: Don't understand why you didn't get the "Oscar"
I am Vietnamese and I would like to say that I am deeply grateful to Mr D Ellsberg to have saved millions of my compatriots from miseries of war as without him the war would not have ended that 1975 year!
Do you know any things that recently happened in in our country?
People of values do not play mind games, indirect games, or pretense. They put their face, name forward and speak openly, eloquently, and honestly of the truth, even at the price of their own freedom and public image. Daniel Ellsberg and Edward Snowden are truly one in a billion, one of a kind in the most pure of ways.
snowden is in Russia. Ellsberg never left. they are not the same.
The lesson to be learned from Vietnam is that we were maneuvered into it by the CIA, specifically by way of its 34A plans which led to the Gulf of Tonkin. American ships and aircraft launched unprovoked attacks on North Vietnam in order to force a reaction which our side would say they started. Read pp. 234-239 from "The Pentagon Papers". And also p. 41 and pp. 70-73 from "The Secret Team". We can conclude the agency operates outside the law and civilian control, representing an ongoing threat to undermine U.S.foreign policy in the pursuit of its own goals.
Super smart. It is obvious how clueless people are by the number of folks that replied. So you know...i hear you and could not agree more.
Also Paul Nitze psc66..all lies to scare people to support war....over and over
We were going to go to war anyhow.
It's all about US business interests and GREED.
@@joeblow5087. It always is about the money. Follow the money.
Thank you for this. My rose colored glasses have been removed. My poor Dad 4 years in Vietnam! NEVER talked about it. Awful night terrors. I'm so sorry I didn't know anything until I was grown.
1983..
Someone gave me a map of Vandenberg Airforce base. It had an X over the MX missle.
Guards thought I was a leader. When arrested, I was privileged to be in a private room with Daniel Ellsberg.
The book Secrets was incredibly well-written and interesting.
2021 and this is holding dead on true.
Not one person mentions all the military secrets (even famous cases like Cuban Missile Crisis) which by virtue of their secrecy, saved our lives. This sanctimonious outpouring against secrecy per se is really just a mistaken outpouring against Nixon and people's beliefs about the Viet Nam war.
People don't start wars, governments do.
This needs to be a class in US High School, maybe even middle, so everyone has to hear it once, before they have a chance to drop out n tune out. Then things might change. Most he stated from 2002, flourished over the past nine years. : (
tweet him..spread his vids over every social media and blog...lets Show our appreciation for their efforts by Spreading the truths they risked and sacrificed to give us
If you and Snowden do a conference I will fly anywhere to hear you two!!
Saw the documentary hours ago here on Italian TV...Awesome. Thanks.
15 years ago! this is gonna be good stuff
My older brother who was fifteen months older than me spent parts of 1969, 1970 and 1971 in Vietnam while in the U.SM.C.
He never spoke about his experience however I noticed that he was changed and I never pressed him on it.
He was never evaluated for PTSD prior to or after completing his four year commitment.
Knowing that my brother and others were put in harms way by the lies of five US presidents pains me that my country didn’t change based on our unjust invasion and destruction of Iraq.
My brother was murdered in 1989.
28:00 US was TRYING to get their ship nd planes shot at to which we could use as excuse to send more troops / escalate war
Daniel, thank you for your sacrifices!
Highly motivating and such honest devotee of righteousness. God be with him and his ilk.
Rest In Peace, Daniel Ellsberg
"Secrets" is a great eye opener --I could not put it down. See also L. Fletcher Prouty;s "JFK".
L. Fletcher Prouty's THE SECRET TEAM.
Never forget, Daniel Ellsberg worked for General Edward G. Lansdale, the black arts specialist in coups & assassinations.
I served TAD on the USS Turner Joy sometime after this event but NO ONE I met believed they were fired upon by the North Vietnamese Navy in Aug. '64 and Robert McNamara has testified those attacks were FALSE. LBJ started a war for blood and profit. Nixon was elected in '68 with the promise to end the war in Vietnam but it only ended in '75 with the fall of Saigon AFTER Nixon resigned in disgrace.
A Scholar and Author, DANIEL ELLSBERG is no more, he expired at the age of 92. I listened to his speech on 'Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers' Here we find out about the Authority to run the USA. AMERICA is a Democratic Country under the Presidential system with huge Military Strenght. I love the USA.
Numbers 23:10
“Who can count the dust of Jacob, and the number of the fourth part of Israel? Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like his!”
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Daniel Ellsberg married the daughter of my childhood War Toy King, Louis Marx. He never again spoke to either of them. I protested the Kent State killings in 1970, so Dad came up to Northwestern, got into heated arguments with me and my frat brothers, then cut off financing.
So, stupidly, to supplement my academic scholarship, I volunteered for the draft, thinking to get the greatest potential financial gain from the shortest amount of time invested.
in 1971 the conflict was cooling, and I was an existentialist and a rebel, so ended up in the MPs and both the AMERICAL and 101st Airborne a combat infantryman.
I never went back to NU, but was "born again" in 1973 and my life was radically changed by repentance towards God, and faith in Jesus Christ.
Used the G.I. Bill twice. Married twice. Fathered nine. Fostered one Vietnamese boy. Started studying the Viet conflict after seeing THE FOG OF WAR ((McNamara)) and SIR, NO SIR! ((Jane Fonda)).
As a disciple of Jesus Christ, I count myself a saint and a child of God according to Holy Scriptures. The Holy Bible is my infallible guide and Owner's manual, and has much to say about true peace to those with ears to hear ...
'The Twentieth Century' by Howard Zinn woke me the fuck up.
Somewhere along the way, I'm thinking after WWII... this government adopted the idea that they (those in charge) are as powerful as Caesar was in ancient times and those on Capital Hill have run with that idea. It got really bad with Bush and went down hill from there. America (the government) has developed the idea that they are greater than any other country, as well as more powerful than any other country therefore, we can do whatever we want and if they (other countries) don't like it, we'll declare war and simply wipe them out. With that being said, every time I hear a politician talk about terrorists, it comes to mind that the only terrorists on this planet is the government of the United States and the military it controls. I hate to think that way because I'm American however, being ex-military... I know full well what this government is capable of committing.
+Texas Hi-Railer Well said and I totally agree with you. When WWII began most Americans did not want any involvement. In 1941, after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, FDR was the last President to ask congress to declare war. Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan, Iraq: technically, those were not wars. Those conflicts, and other in between, are considered “Extended Military Engagements.” President Obama too has been selective about the way he uses the word “war” in the build-up to today’s situation with the Islamic State in Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS). Now no one cares who our military or mercenaries kill. I never have understood why congress by passing the Tonkin Gulf resolution gave the President the right to attack anyone, removing constitutional restraints on his power. But now Americans are surprised when people we arrack dislike or attack us, when we believe we are giving them a fake democracy to control them.
If he sais, "can you hear me in the back" one more time, this will be the last time for me to ever listen to him again.
how insightful... amazing to watch this now give we know no WMD found in Iraq. History does repeat
No one remembers Under secretary of State Paul Wolfowitz' roll in involving us in Iraq. He was the first to loudly advocate this just after 9-11. Guess what position he took just after leaving the Bush administration? President of the IMF. Robert S. McNamara's disastrous engagement policies prolonged the Vietnam war, making the banksters richer. Guess what position he took after he left the LBJ administration? President of the World Bank!
Amazing, absolutely amazing American Partisan and vet.
ALWAYS the book pitch!
Since I was the only person to ever hold the position that I held, I decline to tell you since others with only a slight investigation would know who I am and I prefer the protection of anonymity. However, my area provided support services for the BOD and the senior executives for meetings, special events and off sites. I worked directly with the heads of the LOBs and the corporate execs and the board. There were a few and ONLY a few with whom I have respect.
When will WE ever learn?
It is precisely because of elective wars like world war I and vietnam that people were so reticent to fight necessary wars. Some "necessary" wars, like world war II, would have been extraordinarily unlikely without the destruction, economic and political, of world war I.
32:30 you don't have a Clue how easily you can be lied to and misled
Anything the government says, I automatically assume it's a lie. I pity the fool who believes them
The untenable notion that we could militarily prevail in Vietnam represents an epic blunder of the highest level. The percentage of the population that came to oppose this notion became much larger and far more vocal.
Would be nice to you see you welcome Mr Snowden in this matter. Perhaps in 30 years time if we are stille alive
Good on you Mr. Ellsberg. We really appreciate what you are doing.
New Year's resolution for us all - free Bradley Manning.
Peace and love to everyone. :)
If you are here then you are really waking up!
"War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it. " quote by Desiderius Erasmus 15th-16th century Dutch philosopher, Christian scholar and humanist. High positioned public officials, wealthy individuals and their children, war profiteers, US and other countries' Generals and the like , love war yet never fight in a war or have been under fire in a war .
Like John Wayne, Rush Limbaugh, Trump--"chicken hawks," all.. I don't know who originated this, but there is an old saying that "all wars are popular for the first six months."
@@viktoriaironpride4977 Lyndon Johnson, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Robert Mcnamara.... Ect
It's a bipartisan thing.
I was going ho as a young man and joined the army. I thought protesters were traitors. It wasn't until I actually researched this BS that I came around. Vietnam and Iraq were criminal.
God rest his soul. What a courageous and honorable man!!
I don't understand how Kennedy could have realistically believed that the U.S. military advisory group (MAAG) could defeat a million man North Vietnamese army. Vietnam was a lost cause from the beginning and it did not take a genius (although Ellsberg WAS a genius) to see it.
Where did you hear that stuff about kennedy?
He was for derscalation and a political solution in vietnam.
Ellsberg is talking about 1964 and president Johnson.
He and nixon send in the military bases on lies...
Did you even watch the talk?
@@NewPipeFTWJFK gave no hint he would withdraw our guys from Vietnam at least not publicly.
@@tunafish8769 JFK gave an interview with Walter Cronkite. In it he said that the war is not going well and that while we can arm the South, and train them, that it is their (South Vietnam's) war and *they* have to win it. While we can never be sure, JFK did push against military pressure in other areas such as whether or not to invade Cuba (a theater where JFK had been burned by poor military advice and from which he also learned).
Prouty > "the Pentagon Papers were a compilation of documents designed to paint President John F. Kennedy as the villain of the story [that fdr ike jfk backed the french/cia covert invasions of Indochina] , and to shield the role of the CIA….
This massive compilation of official documents produced by Secretary McNamara’s “task force…to study the history of United States involvement in Vietnam from World War II to the present” (1969) totally ignored the assassination [of President Kennedy]. The Pentagon Papers say simply, “Lodge confers with the President,” as though it were just another day in the life of a President. Which President? Didn’t that matter? What a way to dismiss Kennedy and his tragic death! This entire section of the Pentagon Papers, which were commissioned to be a complete account of the history of the Vietnam war period, cannot find a word to say about that assassination. This official history simply skips all mention of the death of the President of the United States and tells the story of the death of Diem as though it had occurred in a vacuum." See L. Fletcher Prouty, JFK The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy (Birch Lane Press, 1992, First Edition), pages 272 - 283.
How's that for prescience and perspicacity?
RIP and we hope that those who work in public service and those who plan to are inspired by you, inspired to truly serve the ppl and to blow the whistle when the government is about to do more harm than good.
The commander of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which never occurred, was the father of JIM MORRISION. Look it up.
"The commander of the Gulf of Tonkin incident" I thought there was no such incident.
@@psilvakimo A real attack on August 2, while the second attack on August 4 likely never occurred. What I never learned in college (could be on me) was that the second attack was considered doubtful right away rather than years later. There is even a recording of LBJ acknowledging this.
So you have read Russ Baker's Family of Secrets?
Iam a vietnamese. So in the Vietnam war,my view,bcós of the hard information between the world and Vietnam.It's hard to find the true information,this is a main reason that why most of American people didnt knew the fake of Vn war.if they know that,maybe,Vietnam war could finish soon.
Vietnamese people welcomed Americans today.
Ola.
I liked to see the transcription of this video. Please. I dont understand everything of this video. Someone could do that ?
turn on CC or go to description of video and scroll down.
@williampaulbeaugruendler7901 thanks.
My thoughts on this is that in the 50’s and 60’s, the US government probably was never going to tell the public what their true intentions were for national security. As vindictive as the lying was, it would have been worse if they gave details to everyone. Do people like that? No, but just my opinion on the Pentagon Papers.
Dan elsberg american hero
"Let me just take two minutes..." Fifteen minutes of impassioned speechifying later.
Hey Julian Assange this is what a real hero looks like. He did not run away to hide like a coward in an embassy.
Assange was about to be arrested by the Swedish government for some phony sex charge and not the release of information. Remember too he also was crossing the Clintons. Ellsberg never faced any such death sentence and he had a very compliant media protecting him. FDR has also been exposed for his complicity in Pearl Harbor by reputable historians. Thomas Dewey was going to expose FDR during the 1944 presidential campaign, but was persuaded not to or it would have a bad affect on the moral of our troops. Dewey rightfully withdrew the issue.
America's ugly face made him run away
I wish you could travel back in time... I wish we all could, and expose the lies of the WMDs.
Look at the Danny Sheehan material about this.
36:00 amazing story of Gov lying
#Bless watching from London UK :)
evil does exist as long as oil exist why fighting for someones resources dont touch what does not belongs to you..
Because the US has to hold on to it's dominant status are our enemies will
Taken in light of what Americans used as their yardstick for crimes against humanity and war crimes as applied against Germans in Nuremberg , what Americans themselves conducted executing their political agenda by resorting to armed intervention in Vietnam should see many from top US planners to field commanders as Westmorland facing war crimes trial in Hague .
remember the lies of LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin resolution.
You look great, by the way✌️💜
Before there was Assange, Teixeria and Hersch, there's the real OG: Ellsberg.
Hopefully one day Erik Snowden can have a book tour on US soil. The world is a better place with people like Ellsberg and Snowden in it.
Not "Erik" Edward Snowden.
I lost my voice asking for a raise.
@shillyshallyz What makes you think that I was talking about the US in particular. I could if you wish, but you have shown the exact attitude that gets the US into so much trouble and to be quite honest with you, you deserve to bear responsibility every single US death that has occured through the promulgation of 'might is right'.
54:37 resistance to civil government -Henry David Thoreau
I also recomend the book RED HEAT, Conspiracy, murder and the Cold War in the Caribbean by a british writer named Alex Von Tunzelman. Henry Holt & Company LLC
@shillyshallyz You're talking about events that lead to war, however I'm talking nabout the psychology behind the why wars begin. Fear of showing weakness in front of an aggressor or the larger world is the biggest cause of war.
The new american tradition! AGGRESSION.
"New?"
Good thing I know what UCSB because I would otherwise have no idea where this was held. Also, there is no specific referential date for this speech. Here's one of THE greatest heroes in the United States and he is given about zero consideration here on YT. I'd really like to know exactly when this presentation was made. 10/25/2002
Also Check out Sibel Edmonds
Imagine what we would know and believe about the Vietnam war if Daniel Ellsberg had not released the Penatagon Papers.
Small potatoes as compared with Nick Turse's expose.
Col. Prouty > "the Pentagon Papers were a compilation of documents designed to paint President John F. Kennedy as the villain of the story [that fdr ike jfk backed the french/cia covert invasions of Indochina] , and to shield the role of the CIA….
This massive compilation of official documents produced by Secretary McNamara’s “task force…to study the history of United States involvement in Vietnam from World War II to the present” (1969) totally ignored the assassination [of President Kennedy]. The Pentagon Papers say simply, “Lodge confers with the President,” as though it were just another day in the life of a President. Which President? Didn’t that matter? What a way to dismiss Kennedy and his tragic death! This entire section of the Pentagon Papers, which were commissioned to be a complete account of the history of the Vietnam war period, cannot find a word to say about that assassination. This official history simply skips all mention of the death of the President of the United States and tells the story of the death of Diem as though it had occurred in a vacuum." See L. Fletcher Prouty, JFK The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy (Birch Lane Press, 1992, First Edition), pages 272 - 283.
The Bible says, "If you dig a pit for someone else, you fall into it yourself I see Nixon fell into his own pit! Again, the Bible proves Truth! All you have to do is wait a little while and they will all be judged!
What?? That made zero sense.
The Bible contains more lies than truth.
just read the Old Testament. Best book ever. But its not there for most people.
If everyone in positions of influence with a conscience went even a fraction as far as Daniel Ellsberg to defend and expose the truth of the condition we have blindly allowed ourselves to be penned into, that condition would not exist. Plus TV would be what it was intended to be for; to inform as well as entertain, as well as grow up!
"blindly led into," indicates you can't see the forest for the trees. We are left with a legacy of mistakes from our parents, grandparents etc. that we have been left to uncover and clean up. Likening international politics to some sort of parent child interaction is reductionist (lazy at best and ignorant at worst). Stick with pop culture and fashion sites, as you have no place in politics or international policy discussions
Maybe I'm just stupid, but this is very confusing.
Lets make some money off the same people we are trying to expose, got to love independent news stations.
@okeleke1 What would you reckon about the role of Canada in the Vietnam War?
I just dug up this: copy and Google:
• Quiet Complicity: Canadian Involvement in the Vietnam War. Victor Levant
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I have observed that "automatic translation" is not so automatic... its being DELIBERATELY mistranslated in order to confuse the people like me who are watching this (and others) documentarys. There are some interest that does not want you to know some inconvenients truths!! SHAME ON YOU TUBE!
Where is the one about Aliens UFOs can't find it.
this lecture was made 25th October 2002 the same day US Sen Paul Wellstone was assassinated for trying to stop war with IRAQ
Do you mean preventing the war? The Iraq war started in March 2003.
Reason was for Betel Nut
Being knowledgeable is life's basic research. Being wise is life's applied research.
I think it's really terrible to blame the soldier who is standing in the line of fire and trying to do something we have to follow the line of command so the commanders have to be responsible not the soldiers if they ran away and they deserted then that's another thing
The U.N.charter is NOT part of the Constitution of the United States, therefore the U.N. Charter is NOT the supreme law of the U.S. land. The Constitution of the United States is
So how is that relevant or in line with the US consitution if the policy makers lie to congress and the public to start a war?
If the war is based on a lie and you invade a foraign nation thats indeed a case for the UN.
@antmayfield WAHT DOES NIXON DO WITH THIS?
It was repeated, now for oil!
End the Fed
This guy is the living hero/ledgend that more than epitomizes that true American spirit of freedom, fighting for the truth against all prevailing forces of control and disinformation; and with the very real possibility of those forces decending upon him with all the might and ferocity of the established hierarchicle powers lit among those temple institutions of the very nation's capital,,,,,,,,,,,,, Now THAT is a hero!! And we should be attentive to every word issued from his vast ocean of critical information. Within his former position of power he himself, being witness to the true corrupt situation soon did a complete about face and through a devoted loyalty to the true leaders of our nation (it's citizens) did immediately expose the dirty secrets in the most public forum available, the television media broadcasting system.
@columbusclipper that, he did, somewhat similar to what bradley manning did for wikileaks.
And now Ukraine and the beat goes on and on and on
MARANATHA
Free Oscar Lopez Rivera!!!!
MY GREAT RESPECT TO REAL HUMAN BEING WITH AN OPEN MIND AND THE COURAGE TO LET EXPOSE THE REALITY OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE SLATER OF INOCENT HUMAN BEINGS IN VIETNAM. TO OTHERS IT WAS JUST AN ACT OF ANTIPATRIOTEC. THIS KIND OF IGNORANT AND MANIPULATED BEINGS DO NOT HAVE MIND OF THEIROWN AND PROBABLY THE SADES PART OF IT THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING EVER UNDERSTAND HOW DEEP AND DARK LOCK OF REAZON.
34:30 ..."drones"... over China... in the 60's?... Too bad he glided too fast over it!...
Richard Nixon disliked this
American excepcionalism
Should still be in jail.
His story re pete
Logevall is a struggling actor posing as a teacher of history. This is why our students are so f up’ed. Also he is a book huckster and star f’er. Wake up students, you are the purchasers of “book tour” products. Ellsburg was a simpleton in the 60’s and has only gotten worse. It doesn’t take a genius to run a xerox machine.
That's a lie. Ellsberg has more brains and guts than you will ever dream of having.
someone PLEASE edit this down to 1 min ( that's about all he needed )