Seminar INOUE YOSHIMI - Bad Sounds & Stomps for Kata Performance
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 เม.ย. 2012
- A short clip from an international seminar with Inoue Yoshimi sensei (b. 1946), Japanese national team kata coach and legendary head teacher of several world-class Karate athletes such as Mie Nakayama, Rika Usami and Antonio Diaz. Visit www.karatebyjesse.com for more awesomeness!
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It seems to me that Inoue Sensei has a fantastic teaching style. A wonderful balance of serious & relaxed attitude towards his teaching. IMO very important to allow our minds to relax with a bit of humour, kindness, gentleness or what ever before back to concentrating again.
ThE sensei of my idols Rika Usami and Antonio Diaz?
May he live on forever as a legend~
Very good advice! In the first one, he says that you don't have to make any sound, because that takes out your power. The same for stomping, it takes out your power and balance
@pinasks... Some Kata in the Shotokan syllabus use Fumikomi (stomp) - The Tekki kata are a good example. Inoue sensei is speaking of 'unnecessary stomping' in basic techniques, such as zenkutsu dachi oi-tsuki. It seems more and more Karate-ka are performing this 'stomping' in basic techniques, which is very sad for their karate. Inoue Sensei is highlighting that this variation of technique, for the sake of "performance enhancement", is at the detriment of power and true kime. A great instructor.
hes talking about the modern karateka bad special effects they use during kata.. heavy exhalations making useless sounds and stomps. cant believe some people think thoes sounds equall power..
When preforming Kata...the only sound that should be heard is the Kiai, special breathing (Hangetsu) and the snap or pop of your Gi when you are executing fast powerful techniques.
I competed in a tournament years ago (Mens over 40) When I and the other Yudansha saw Chinen Sensei preforming his Kata for a warm up...we all figured what a waste of money that was. (Tongue in cheek) When he competed...he was absolutely flawless.
I use Sensei as an example all the time...perfect breath control. Osu
I love it!!! Awesome!!!
truly that was 2 mn of awesomeness
That's awesome! Thanks Sensei Jesse!
-Connor H
stomping for that strike would be pointless since all the energy you gave to the ground during that stomp is sent back up to you, then all your opponent has to do is push and your done. Although using the stomp for a means to an end would allow you to utilize the energy sent back up. Note there are more efficient ways to do that tho
Diaz is wearing a Hirota Gi Most likely 163 with wkf label
The stomping downwards is sometimes used to push down force, what you get back from the ground is called "reaction force", this can be added to the technique to improve it (stronger and faster), but it has to connect with "tanden". This is not recommended everytime you do a technique. There is a video with Taiji Kase explaining that, check video at 4:52: check for "Maestro Kase 24 Novembre 2004 Onoranza Funebre 24 Novembre 2004".
That movement was originally a Fumikomi, a stomp as an attack, right before the extending of the hand and the elbow. Over time it developed into the Crescent kick that many perform it as today. I believe if you are to practice the old way, a loud stomp is fine, as that is the attack, but if you practice the Crescent kick, you should be light and swift.
Hmmmm... I am going to keep these points in mind with my Shaolin and modern wushu. Very good.
Unfortunately this is what has become of kata competitions.
Watch the video w/the hip actions, he is explaining to my understanding similar to tai chi, to have a solid root thus a solid structure,.. and maintaining the hips/head structure at a certain level, not going up and down, which from a tai chi position would cause one to lose thier root,and the kia creates tension,tai chi would stress relax to maintain structure and root,.. he is explaining deep stuff there in my opionion that either dont know(havent been taught yet) or understand..
This is very interesting to read. Thank you for your insights. Tai chi seems a very interesting art, seems like there is a lot of emphasis on building a strong foundation. That is why, I have decided to learn nei gong (i think its concepts is same as tai chi)
I would like to see all of the kicks, including sweeps in your style of Karate. What style is it too? Then do another video of you showing all of the fist and elbow punches. Go full speed and power too. You are impressive from what I've seen so far.
Question -from novice to you. :^) Based on his advice, stomp....thinking about Tekki Shodan. Should there be a loud stomp in the first kick - which is I think Reverse/outside Crescent kick (Chudan Soto Mikazuki Geri)? good thing i have an app for that... or......which after the kick goes to kiba dachi, or in any kick in tekki? thanks for any help.
i train gensei-ryu and i always learned not to make a sound at a kata (remain silent during a kata)
It depends on the type of technique. If you are doing a thrusting technique, then it makes sense to connect upper and lower body. If you are doing a snapping technique, then relaxation and speed is a more important than connection. If you are roatating away from the technique - reverse rotation (as in uchi shuto, yoko uraken, gedan barai) , where you do not add weight to the technique, then you do not want to "lock" upper and lower body together. All in my opinion of course! :-)
100% agree with u
what brand karate gi is diaz wearing here??
I wouldn't mind seeing an English translation of these videos
With respect to the assistant, his mechanics during the first half of the punch seem... interesting. Does anyone have any comments?
I am unclear on what he is suggesting for the first one, there should be no breathe?
I suspect that he is suggesting that in exhaling, particularly from the chest, that you tighten the chest and slow down your techniques. In my opinion, there are many good reasons NOT to kiai or make obvious sounds during techniques, although there are are also a number a reason FOR them, but not theatrical ibuki-style noises. In the case of a yoko uraken, there are more arguments against than in favour.
TRANSLATION ... ?
I don't know to make "sounds" through breathing when I do kata
Jesse Enkamp, some advice ?
He forgot to restomp the groin
I imagine he cares, and so do I, which is why I asked. But that wasn't the point I was interested in, in any case, but thank you.
My take on it is that he's saying when you ha (or kiai) you tense up. Tensing is bad and it slows you down. More relaxed you are the faster and stronger you are. Try it, it's been my experience. Stomping just dissipates force into the ground, when I thought about it and realized that I stopped it on my own.
Where does that leave the sacred kiai? Can't answer that.
Antonio Diaz...que pena queno seas chileno... Oss
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Breathing in kata and kihon should be natural...loud exhales and hitting the side with hikite does not equal power !
The GI Slapping and self punching to enhance a technique is also garbage.
When someone does that it shows they don’t have technique good enough to stand on its own.
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