Was the split because Nicky and Gordon didn’t get along or because multiple team members didn’t like gordon. I feel like the dynamic could be explained a bit better.
I don't know man. I tend to believe that John wouldn't feed us bullshit.. he doesn't seem like the gossiper type to me. I'm basing this all off of the fact he's pretty frkn respected in the mma world.
I think it says a lot about Gordon and Jon that the majority of the team chose Gordon’s lil bro over Gordon/Jon. You don’t just leave the GOATs of no-gi without some serious toxicity.
@@RauTheCow To leave the greatest coach in the world and the best competitor for his little brother seems very unusual for hardcore competitors who want to become the best in their weight category and earn a lot through dvd sales. Normally most people would put an blind eye on such things if they want to be sucessfull. So it has to be VERY bad and serious by the amount of people who left
@@highsoflyify if you want to make money off the DVDs it makes perfect sense. It makes a whole lot of sense to keep this “feud” going as long as possible too.
It's a smart strategy they've came up with. Gordon wins everything and Craig gets 2nd place in everything, they've everything covered now. Holding interviews for potential C-Team members, apply below!
Amazing video kieren. I watched the whole thing and normally I don't care about this kind of stuff lol. You've got a knack for producing great BJJ news updates. You should do it more often!
In one of the B-Team videos, it was foreshadowed that Gordo pushed Nicky too hard to reach the top, which Nicky didn't really want. It was the infamous "Craig Jones" drawing video.
I can Imagine our King spoke to Nicky Ryan like how Vegeta spoke to future Trunks "Look at me dumb ass, wipe that smile of your face. Winning who's numer one is that your only goal!? You think it ends there? Think about the next tournament and the tournament after that or think about your pride if Ryan blood flows through your veins if your my brother as you claim then i won't tolerate you losing to anyone you'll be the best or you will be NOTHING!!"
In one of the B-Team videos, it was foreshadowed that Gordo pushed Nicky too hard to reach the top, which Nicky didn't really want. It was the infamous "Craig Jones" drawing video.
@@TehUltimateSnake Watch the B-Team video. There is one where Nicky paints a picture of Craig and they joke around. Craig mentions in that video that Nicky need a break from BJJ and time to himself. It was a serious moment, which is rare with Craig, for just a couple of seconds. It was pretty telling if you are a good people reader. th-cam.com/users/shortshrGOmiGiHtU
Egos. That’s way they split. But really, Danaher shouldn’t have waited till it affected training. When you’re a professional athlete, your training is every waking hour - they’re always thinking and visualizing their craft, esp if they’re surrounded by fellow competitors all day every day.
Gyms go through occasional problems and sometimes split up. They made their decision and personally I’m okay with not knowing. It’s none of our business. Especially if it was family and personal. Let’s be glad we have both of these two powerhouse teams. 🔥
Purely speculation here, but I would think with Gordon being the narcissist of all narcissists, that he treated the entire team as if their only purpose in life was to support him and build him up. Any crumbs they picked up along the way should be considered a gift from him. He's a 10 at BJJ, but appears to be a zero at being a decent human.
@@jayandgem just like Kano, Maeda, and others who are credited with contributing to what grappling is today John Danaher will be looked at on the same level if not a higher level. It’s a wild thing to think of because you wonder who will get that recognition let’s say 50, 100, or 200 years from now and there’s some you could suggest in modern times but no one more definitive than John.
@@thedopesickshow difference between people in 200 years will be able to still listen to John and watch the HD videos of all his students fighting where as we only get to read books about anyone from 200 years ago. John will be a god level type person In 200 years.
What do you mean? Nicky and Nick are friends and co-founders of the B-Team, and Nicky trains Jay on a daily basis. To me it feels that aside the personal issues among Gordon and Nicky, Gordon and Nick were developing some kind of rivarly , because they were on the same weight class and Nick openly claimed that he wanted to be the best.
I think the split was good for all athletes to step out of the shadow from Gordon. Only sad thing really is the brother dispute. I hope they figure it out what ever it is you only have one family.
Hey, did someone consider the Death of BigGord to play a role here ? I know stuff can get really bad between siblings or successors after the death of a mom/dad....
Danaher blames his team breakup on "Tensions that were magnified between two brothers due to training in a small town"... then stated that "More than half my team left me for team B". When 3/4 of a team leaves a gym, maybe the coach is part of the problem? Danaher then attempts to victimize himself "We were left more or less homeless"... as if he would not be welcomed to teach just about anywhere or did not have the money to rent a space to train.... just because he talks slowly does not mean he's sharing words of wisdom.
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I think the split was ALL about the money. I like Craig, but he gives off the vibe that he puts money before everything else. Plus, B-team thought they had a mini Danaher in Nicky Gordon.
won't be surprised if it was 90% Gordon. I mean there's a reason most of guys went w b team despite danaher staying w gordon. I feel he may have some of that MJ/Kobe type of personality that would be borderline abusive to teammates in the quest for everyone's greatness. just speculating tho. wish the best for all
Simply, Gordon's ego shunned away the team, Nicky fancies himself as a Danaher 2.0 and jealous of Gordon's success and his lack there of despite being related and sharing the same training and coaches, and the rest of the team want to be superstars in their own right
@Jake Nicky Rod pretty much said as much (re: Nicky Ryan being Danaher 2.0) in a video interview with Jason Chambers, so not sure the original comment is that far of a stretch.
I actually arrived there the day after it happened. "Where is everyone?" "Some people decided to show their true colors" 😳 Glad I got to be a little piece of bjj history 😅
@@julianmoranartist My bet is Gordon. Gordon is a dick, and you see that on social media. Making fun of homeless people who die in the cold, that's a level of inhumanity right there.
@@kristineulrich793 ofc not. Because Gordon are toxic. His own brother dont like him. Guess how much asshole you need for that. and John are not the nice normal person people think. Look what athete he got around him self.... say somthing about him as mentor
Apparently, splitting apart wasn't the only the split... I looked at Renzo Gracie's website and John Danaher isn't listed as an affiliate school. So I guess everyone split from Renzo's group.
I could imagine it being hard to deal with Gordons personality on the daily. Also probably a lot of ego involved all around especially when there is a clear alpha who doesn't mind reminding everyone. Nicky Rod seems like a cocky guy as well so no surprise it would eventually get uncomfortable. Sad when siblings fall out with each other but time might sort it out. All things end eventually...just the way. Made the adcc final better.
Yeah he did, he mentioned that the tension was between the two brothers. He didn't go into any more specific detail about it but the speculation for a while has been that the argument was over their father's estate. I'm not sure if this is true or not but if it is it's quite sad but hey, who are we to judge
In one of the B-Team videos, it was foreshadowed that Gordo pushed Nicky too hard to reach the top, which Nicky didn't really want. It was the infamous "Craig Jones" painting video: th-cam.com/users/shortshrGOmiGiHtU
So basically Gordon is the man and a couple of perpetual runners-up wanted to be told daily that they’re just as good when they clearly arent. Sounds like what I and many others suspected.
The amount of people thinking this i Bteams fault and envy are the reason. Are you mentaly developed as a 5 year old? His own brother couldent stand him and John. All the main guys left Gordon and John even if JD are a great coach but bad person. Think about that. It's pretty obvious.
@@KierenLefevre Depends on the situation. In John's story they were left high and dry or "homeless." Who is to say who found the property and talked to the previous owners? One of the old co-owners of the old gym (Gracie Humaita)...is one of the owners of B-Team. Just not the "face" of B-Team.
They may have, but Danaher's team is the one shining on the mats, judging by their recent performance at ADCC - compared to B-Team who are rather ironically really living up to the name (and they're stacked with top talent.)
@@jaytamati4120 B team got 2 silver medals just like in 2019 when they trained under danaher he failed to win them gold...Also no Danahers current team all fucking lost outside of Gordon? Giancarlo is a lucas lepri black belt who only joined danaher in 2021 lmao. Meregali is a 4x GI world champ who only joined Danaher in 2021...... All of danahers long time students, Taza, Gary, BigDan, LukeG and couple others... who came up with the DDS actually lost in ADCC outside of Gordon anD GORDON would have won ADCC even if he also joined the B team.... if u want reality Nicky ryan is actually danahers only Homegrown white to black belt student who competes at ADCC and u saw he has failed to medal in 3 ADCCs now. Everyone else was already a purple-black belt before joining danaher. Nicky ryan literally proves Danaher is just a top coach like many top coaches and is not special... Without gordon ryan who would be adcc champion under about a dozen other coaches... who exactly is danaher? Why didn't danaher produce kade rutolo the youngest ADCC champion in history??? XD
Additionally, no one has asked WHY John Danaher chose to stay only with Gordon. I mean besides the obvious that he is the biggest star in the sport. Did he feel bad leaving Renzo's academy as an instructor there? What about the bulk of the DDS team leaving for B team, the bulk of the "team" is there, so in theory he would've went with them, but solely stuck with Gordon. I'm assuming there's a monetary element Gordon offered John, but who knows. I'm speculating. Also no disrespect on my part, it is what it is I'm just very curious.
dude this was all about money thinking its drama or a brotherly feud sounds cool and makes this an intresitng future matches but reality is they are thinking about how they will get the most juice out of this squeeze
Ryan said on the JRE podcast that the split was in part due to differences in “branding”. He wants to create a brand and make money, some of the decisions going along with that apparently pissed off half the gym……I’m sure there’s infighting as well
whoa man when you just say the names out loud it makes it worse. danaher just said "two brothers"... so you can say "obviously he meant" the ryan brothers but it is an important distinction that he said two brothers rather than explicitly saying gordon and nicky. It was interesting though. Hmm. Anyway thanks for video.
Hold up. This sounds like Deja-Vu. This is how the Gracie family split way back isn't it? A family split? Nothing new here. Hopefully one day they can come back together though and break bread.
Hey would love to know your story. I'm compiling stories from people who were around these personal issues and would like permission to add yours in a documentary.
I mean…. We all kinda knew this because the Ryan brothers are in separate teams lol plus Gordon doesn’t seem like a pleasant person to be around either.. I don’t know him but just podcast interviews etc…
San Juan is a great city, absolutely stunning, but I can see how living there would make tensions worse. They were technically in the US but it does not feel like the US. Most local's are sweet, but there’s a large “get out gringo” contingency. I’d imagine it was only the team, maybe some random girls, as a social group. Pork and plantains get boring, the culture is more South than North American (culture shock can turn to feeling isolated), and it must have been unbelievably hot in the training room. Add expectation, ego, and shit talk to that mix and it’d be tough for very close friendships to survive without good communication. Love John and Gordon’s work, but I can’t see either saying, hey, you guys seem frustrated and we are too, perhaps we should all bring this to a head and talk it out. I wonder what would have happened if they tried Texas first.
@@HectorMarquez bro you are so right with that. I grew up in Puerto Rico and even then I started to hate it. Looking back now I couldn’t believe I had grown to hate the place that I once’s loved so much…. And I wasn’t even living there full time. I hear it is much better there now and I have started to miss my native land
There's a video floating around saying that the REASON is because Gordon made Nicky have sex with his own girlfriend at age 16. And the resentment stems from this. Real or Not? I have no idea... but there definitely is a video floating around claiming this.
They literally performed the exact same in 2019 with 2 silver medals lmao. Danaher has NO ONE outside of Gordon..absolutley NOBODY. Gincarlo is a lucas lepri black belt. Danaher has 1 homegrown student Nickyryan from white to BB with 3 adcc losses now which proves danaher is not special he is just another top coach and nearly his entire team lost at adcc outside gordon lol. Kade rutolo is better than anyone that danaher as produced outside of Gordon ryan.......yet kade has never even met danaher. Stop spewing bullshit
Nicky rod made it to the finals of absolute in less time than any other person in the history of the sport. He beat Felipe Pena on the way there. I would say b team is pretty impressive.
Easy content to make this. Play a clip of danaher speaking then repeat what he just said in your own words. I need to get myself an easy grift like this
@@KierenLefevre so what Kieren said was, if I was a content creator he would intact find my comment hilarious. Guess I'm a content creator now. However, how much 'content' it contains is debatable
can any of those guys beat a dagastani wrestler...doubt it. BJJ days in mma are almost over. the Gracies had great market ing... fight guys with no experience to make themselves look good. hickson was "the best" and he never fought anybody of substance. wouldnt fight Sakuraba to keep the mystique in tack. Royce faced much better fighters. But was never highly regarded in The BJJ community. and no Gracies even in mma anymore.
th-cam.com/video/5U5_fAYurg4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6cz1mOX6rDaEa2cR Weird. Can't seem to figure out why the team woulda split up. Gordon seems like a super classy guy. 🤷🏻
B team made a bad call leaving John. Behind every great team is a great coach and that's a fact. The B Team is basically a group of dudes that are amazing at BJJ and train together. It is always easier to have a coach come up with your game plan, training, peak phase etc. I also get the vibe that Nicky Rod and Gordon can't stand each other. Call it a hunch, but it is a gut feeling I get.
His “laid back” attitude is not that at all. It is proven for a fact that by maintaining the same voice level drops anxiety, and allows someone to keep their head and emotions in check. This man could fuck up 99.9% of men in the world and break bones literally. It is sad how little people understand about psychology and how you can learn to control your brain and mood
He has Asperger’s. It’s not like he’s the most brilliant man in the world at everything and the master of all psychology. His whole life is dedicated to one thing because he has Asperger’s or more likely autism. Jesus dude, chill.
We stole his gym - false
We didn’t like hard training - false
We broke up because of personal issues - 100% the entire story.
Excuse me sir, are you the real mexican ground karate shihan? or some fan using his beautiful name?
Was the split because Nicky and Gordon didn’t get along or because multiple team members didn’t like gordon. I feel like the dynamic could be explained a bit better.
Danaher basically said a bunch of nothing, and so did you... spill the beans already!
B team self prophesied coming in 2nd place- true
I don't know man. I tend to believe that John wouldn't feed us bullshit.. he doesn't seem like the gossiper type to me. I'm basing this all off of the fact he's pretty frkn respected in the mma world.
I think it says a lot about Gordon and Jon that the majority of the team chose Gordon’s lil bro over Gordon/Jon. You don’t just leave the GOATs of no-gi without some serious toxicity.
You say it like the majority is always in the right lmao. Seems the opposite is the case in society.
@@RauTheCow yea I would agree with you 9/10 on that but for some reason this one seems like the exception to me
@@RauTheCow
To leave the greatest coach in the world and the best competitor for his little brother seems very unusual for hardcore competitors who want to become the best in their weight category and earn a lot through dvd sales. Normally most people would put an blind eye on such things if they want to be sucessfull. So it has to be VERY bad and serious by the amount of people who left
@@highsoflyify if you want to make money off the DVDs it makes perfect sense. It makes a whole lot of sense to keep this “feud” going as long as possible too.
@@highsoflyify when you can't alfalfa the alpha you leave the pack. Betas band together
It's a smart strategy they've came up with.
Gordon wins everything and Craig gets 2nd place in everything, they've everything covered now.
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I think I could do Delta squad if we going that low lol
@@spaycee9082 awesome, sounds like we have a very unorganized mess on our hands. I'm excited.
Nicky Ryan can run that squad
C-TEam
Acting like there isn't another place to rent in Texas is hilarious.
You havnt been to Austin have you?
Amazing video kieren. I watched the whole thing and normally I don't care about this kind of stuff lol. You've got a knack for producing great BJJ news updates. You should do it more often!
He just got it from Lex last podcast lol
@@prideneverdies1001 yepp but I didnt want to watch the whole thing. A summary like this is 👌
he missed the most important thing discussed on the podcast and that is bears would win
@@rollinOnCode What about Kodiak vs Polar Bears?
When are you going to join the squad?
I bet it's hell being Gordon Ryan's little brother. Plus having all those knee injuries at such a young age. Poor Nicky.
@@WHOTHESONSETSFREE01 Exactly.
@@WHOTHESONSETSFREE01 Cold, analytic types are slow to action.
Dude, its the ultimate head fuck of a younger brother...if GR was your older bro you are never going to give him any cumuppance 😂
@@thos1618 "cold, analytical" - assholes with big egos
In one of the B-Team videos, it was foreshadowed that Gordo pushed Nicky too hard to reach the top, which Nicky didn't really want. It was the infamous "Craig Jones" drawing video.
I can Imagine our King spoke to Nicky Ryan like how Vegeta spoke to future Trunks
"Look at me dumb ass, wipe that smile of your face. Winning who's numer one is that your only goal!? You think it ends there? Think about the next tournament and the tournament after that or think about your pride if Ryan blood flows through your veins if your my brother as you claim then i won't tolerate you losing to anyone you'll be the best or you will be NOTHING!!"
He could have been Prince Ryan. They could have reigned terror over the bjj community for a decade
In one of the B-Team videos, it was foreshadowed that Gordo pushed Nicky too hard to reach the top, which Nicky didn't really want. It was the infamous "Craig Jones" drawing video.
@@TehUltimateSnake Watch the B-Team video. There is one where Nicky paints a picture of Craig and they joke around. Craig mentions in that video that Nicky need a break from BJJ and time to himself.
It was a serious moment, which is rare with Craig, for just a couple of seconds. It was pretty telling if you are a good people reader.
th-cam.com/users/shortshrGOmiGiHtU
I heard something more related to the death of their father
That's what a good brother does
B team getting the gym first?. Obviously Creg Jones had nothing to with it.
bahahaha 🤣🤣
So under rated comment :D
😂😂😂🥈
Creg obviously didn't have anything to do with it. Craig may have had something to do though...
@@rollinOnCode craig? never heard of her
Egos. That’s way they split.
But really, Danaher shouldn’t have waited till it affected training. When you’re a professional athlete, your training is every waking hour - they’re always thinking and visualizing their craft, esp if they’re surrounded by fellow competitors all day every day.
Maybe he wasn't the person best equipped to deal with something like this. Did the tensions not build up shortly after their father died?
I couldn't handle three months of following Gordon on Instagram, imagine training with him 6 days a week. Excellent fighter though.
Gyms go through occasional problems and sometimes split up. They made their decision and personally I’m okay with not knowing. It’s none of our business. Especially if it was family and personal. Let’s be glad we have both of these two powerhouse teams. 🔥
So basically not even Gordon's brother likes the guy, huh?
Who Danaher or his own brother?
@@mitchjames9350 I meant that even Nicky Ryan can't stand Gordon Ryan.
Purely speculation here, but I would think with Gordon being the narcissist of all narcissists, that he treated the entire team as if their only purpose in life was to support him and build him up. Any crumbs they picked up along the way should be considered a gift from him. He's a 10 at BJJ, but appears to be a zero at being a decent human.
Following this story, all memebers of the B-Team just look more happy aswell.
The bjj scene has basically become an arms race between two groups Danaher taught. Everyone else is obsolete.
@@jayandgem just like Kano, Maeda, and others who are credited with contributing to what grappling is today John Danaher will be looked at on the same level if not a higher level. It’s a wild thing to think of because you wonder who will get that recognition let’s say 50, 100, or 200 years from now and there’s some you could suggest in modern times but no one more definitive than John.
@@thedopesickshow difference between people in 200 years will be able to still listen to John and watch the HD videos of all his students fighting where as we only get to read books about anyone from 200 years ago. John will be a god level type person In 200 years.
@@thedopesickshow Absolutely. JD is going to be a historical figure just like Kano.
And the Ruotolos. And maybe next adcc we see some AOJ competitors.
@@orgANGmo You mean ATOS
I guess New Wave showed everyone why they are the best
a shame that the Rodriguez brothers were the cause of the split! smh
lol actually never considered that. I always assumed it was Gordon & Nicky
@@disguy1801 You wouldn’t consider it because it wasn’t them lol. They both went to the same team so it wouldn’t make sense.
What do you mean? Nicky and Nick are friends and co-founders of the B-Team, and Nicky trains Jay on a daily basis. To me it feels that aside the personal issues among Gordon and Nicky, Gordon and Nick were developing some kind of rivarly , because they were on the same weight class and Nick openly claimed that he wanted to be the best.
@@christianarias851 nick is too caught up on wrestling too be the best
Lol
They wanted to be the best and we all know that isn't happening with Gordon around.
Kinda sad for the brothers to basically have split, I do genuinely hope they get back together at some point because it's just weird like this
Wonder what happened between them that made the team pick nicky but danaher pick Gordon 🤔
The actual interview is better than a recap by this guy
Of course it is bahaha 🤣
Ya don’t say
1:30 hilarious edit lol
I think the split was good for all athletes to step out of the shadow from Gordon. Only sad thing really is the brother dispute. I hope they figure it out what ever it is you only have one family.
yeah you're probably right about this tbh
great video! cant wait to see the final project!
I wonder which brothers does John talk about. Because Nicky Ryan said that the split has nothing to do with Gordon.
Great vid, smart content strategy!
Hey, did someone consider the Death of BigGord to play a role here ? I know stuff can get really bad between siblings or successors after the death of a mom/dad....
Craig Jones should have stuck with Danaher...
Craig would be a monster under Danaher. Maaaybe the only one who could possibly challenge Gordon. But only if he was under Danaher
Huge facts right here
2 small
He's to nice
Not in 99kg+ unfortunately. But I agree if they were in a lighter category. We all saw what happened adcc finals between them
Banger video! 🔥 Now I can stop having night terrors 😱
Danaher blames his team breakup on "Tensions that were magnified between two brothers due to training in a small town"... then stated that "More than half my team left me for team B". When 3/4 of a team leaves a gym, maybe the coach is part of the problem?
Danaher then attempts to victimize himself "We were left more or less homeless"... as if he would not be welcomed to teach just about anywhere or did not have the money to rent a space to train.... just because he talks slowly does not mean he's sharing words of wisdom.
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I think the split was ALL about the money. I like Craig, but he gives off the vibe that he puts money before everything else. Plus, B-team thought they had a mini Danaher in Nicky Gordon.
won't be surprised if it was 90% Gordon. I mean there's a reason most of guys went w b team despite danaher staying w gordon. I feel he may have some of that MJ/Kobe type of personality that would be borderline abusive to teammates in the quest for everyone's greatness. just speculating tho. wish the best for all
Look, they moved to Puerto Rico, a bunch of alpha dudes locked together on the island, no chicks, just dudes. It was Lord of the Flies.
Simply, Gordon's ego shunned away the team, Nicky fancies himself as a Danaher 2.0 and jealous of Gordon's success and his lack there of despite being related and sharing the same training and coaches, and the rest of the team want to be superstars in their own right
@Jake Nicky Rod pretty much said as much (re: Nicky Ryan being Danaher 2.0) in a video interview with Jason Chambers, so not sure the original comment is that far of a stretch.
I actually arrived there the day after it happened.
"Where is everyone?"
"Some people decided to show their true colors"
😳
Glad I got to be a little piece of bjj history 😅
Craig Jones always deserved his own team
We understood it was a disagreement between the brothers, but why 3/4 of the team decided to leave Gordon and Danaher?
Possibly envy/jealousy
To prove them wrong obviously...be better..prove they have grown past them. Obviously they were incorrect lol
Because it's clearly not about a disagreement between two brothers. Either the majority of the team did not like Gordon or Danaher.
@@julianmoranartist My bet is Gordon. Gordon is a dick, and you see that on social media. Making fun of homeless people who die in the cold, that's a level of inhumanity right there.
@@kristineulrich793 ofc not. Because Gordon are toxic. His own brother dont like him. Guess how much asshole you need for that. and John are not the nice normal person people think. Look what athete he got around him self.... say somthing about him as mentor
Nice work bro
So how does danahur fit into the Bteam ? They no longer have him as their main coach ?
No, b team doesnt have a coach, nicky rod talked about how they learn from eachother;
i personally think is a bad idea lol
Apparently, splitting apart wasn't the only the split... I looked at Renzo Gracie's website and John Danaher isn't listed as an affiliate school. So I guess everyone split from Renzo's group.
I could imagine it being hard to deal with Gordons personality on the daily. Also probably a lot of ego involved all around especially when there is a clear alpha who doesn't mind reminding everyone. Nicky Rod seems like a cocky guy as well so no surprise it would eventually get uncomfortable. Sad when siblings fall out with each other but time might sort it out.
All things end eventually...just the way. Made the adcc final better.
1:30 So living close to each other broke Death Squad, but strengthen Daisy Fresh?
did he talk about nicky and gordon?
Yeah he did, he mentioned that the tension was between the two brothers. He didn't go into any more specific detail about it but the speculation for a while has been that the argument was over their father's estate. I'm not sure if this is true or not but if it is it's quite sad but hey, who are we to judge
@@KierenLefevre since Gordon went to live with his Dad and Nicky with his Mom, I always thought they were step-brothers with different fathers. 🤷♂
@@VollKaracho209 at adcc I didn't see a picture of Nicky with his mom(?) so maybe you're right about that step brother thing
In one of the B-Team videos, it was foreshadowed that Gordo pushed Nicky too hard to reach the top, which Nicky didn't really want. It was the infamous "Craig Jones" painting video: th-cam.com/users/shortshrGOmiGiHtU
Some they are just not build up to be a champ. Black mamba mentality matters. Kobe, Gordon, Ronaldo, etc..
im confused as to how that video says that at all lol
So basically Gordon is the man and a couple of perpetual runners-up wanted to be told daily that they’re just as good when they clearly arent. Sounds like what I and many others suspected.
How can there be only 1 single commercial space suitable for bjj for rent in a city as large as Austin? I call BS.
Gordon's ego caused a crack in his relationship with nicky
Yep onus is always on the older bro to keep shit together.
Nicky Ryan and Nicky Rod are victims of sour grapes, it can't be easy being in the shadow of Gordon Ryan....
Nicky Rod is not even a black belt. No one knew brown belt Gordon. I don't think Nicky can beat Gordon, but time will tell.
@@orgANGmo Jeff Monson and Mark Kerr were technically white belts when they competed in ADCC... Grappling in not BJJ
@@pulsarlights2825 Jeff Monson is a catch wrestler so he knows chokes and submissions.
@@mitchjames9350 Yea, I know that...but Monson was a white belt in BJJ, ADCC is supposed to be all grappling styles, so BJJ belts are not relevant
1:31 "tensions got magnified". I see.
Judging by the obvious culture differences after the split it couldn’t have worked
B team needs a coach, that's why they didn't dominate like they should have
The amount of people thinking this i Bteams fault and envy are the reason. Are you mentaly developed as a 5 year old?
His own brother couldent stand him and John. All the main guys left Gordon and John even if JD are a great coach but bad person. Think about that. It's pretty obvious.
Maybe no one is the villain in the story, I know sometimes personalities just conflict and it’s better to go separate ways. It happens all the time.
Just like in chemistry, some things just don’t mix
B Team did Danaher dirty with that gym location
That's what I was thinking too bahaha but they got in first I suppose 🤣
@@KierenLefevre Depends on the situation. In John's story they were left high and dry or "homeless." Who is to say who found the property and talked to the previous owners? One of the old co-owners of the old gym (Gracie Humaita)...is one of the owners of B-Team. Just not the "face" of B-Team.
They may have, but Danaher's team is the one shining on the mats, judging by their recent performance at ADCC - compared to B-Team who are rather ironically really living up to the name (and they're stacked with top talent.)
@@jaytamati4120 B team got 2 silver medals just like in 2019 when they trained under danaher he failed to win them gold...Also no Danahers current team all fucking lost outside of Gordon? Giancarlo is a lucas lepri black belt who only joined danaher in 2021 lmao. Meregali is a 4x GI world champ who only joined Danaher in 2021...... All of danahers long time students, Taza, Gary, BigDan, LukeG and couple others... who came up with the DDS actually lost in ADCC outside of Gordon anD GORDON would have won ADCC even if he also joined the B team....
if u want reality Nicky ryan is actually danahers only Homegrown white to black belt student who competes at ADCC and u saw he has failed to medal in 3 ADCCs now. Everyone else was already a purple-black belt before joining danaher. Nicky ryan literally proves Danaher is just a top coach like many top coaches and is not special... Without gordon ryan who would be adcc champion under about a dozen other coaches... who exactly is danaher? Why didn't danaher produce kade rutolo the youngest ADCC champion in history??? XD
“Danaher not special…” Well, just can’t agree there.
Yes but he didn’t say what drove the rift. That’s what people really want.
Thank you for this but you don’t get any you had to slip that in there 1:35
Additionally, no one has asked WHY John Danaher chose to stay only with Gordon. I mean besides the obvious that he is the biggest star in the sport. Did he feel bad leaving Renzo's academy as an instructor there? What about the bulk of the DDS team leaving for B team, the bulk of the "team" is there, so in theory he would've went with them, but solely stuck with Gordon. I'm assuming there's a monetary element Gordon offered John, but who knows. I'm speculating. Also no disrespect on my part, it is what it is I'm just very curious.
Garry Tonon and Oliver Taza also stayed with him. So it wasn´t only Gordon
"lay to rest"? What are you a politician? He revealed nothing
Hard hitting stuff 😂
bahaha, jiujitsu journalism at its finest 🤣🤣
No you can’t put it to rest cause there is definitely more that that going on.
dude this was all about money thinking its drama or a brotherly feud sounds cool and makes this an intresitng future matches but reality is they are thinking about how they will get the most juice out of this squeeze
And you know this because you were there?
Ryan said on the JRE podcast that the split was in part due to differences in “branding”. He wants to create a brand and make money, some of the decisions going along with that apparently pissed off half the gym……I’m sure there’s infighting as well
Id like to be part of Danaher's D team. The death squad. We will all be non black belts and not very good.
whoa man when you just say the names out loud it makes it worse. danaher just said "two brothers"... so you can say "obviously he meant" the ryan brothers but it is an important distinction that he said two brothers rather than explicitly saying gordon and nicky. It was interesting though. Hmm. Anyway thanks for video.
Hold up. This sounds like Deja-Vu. This is how the Gracie family split way back isn't it? A family split? Nothing new here. Hopefully one day they can come back together though and break bread.
two mins would have covered it
lmaooo. So much is being left out. I really wanna say but I'm not ready to burn that bridge yet. Though it's quite tempting with how Craig treated me.
Hey would love to know your story. I'm compiling stories from people who were around these personal issues and would like permission to add yours in a documentary.
It's called life.
I mean…. We all kinda knew this because the Ryan brothers are in separate teams lol plus Gordon doesn’t seem like a pleasant person to be around either.. I don’t know him but just podcast interviews etc…
All the roids gone to his head.
Of all the places you could choose in Texas, why Austin?
Way too many liberals.
danaher is such a strange man. gordon ryan is an egomaniac and narcissist
They took errr gym! (South Park voice)
San Juan is a great city, absolutely stunning, but I can see how living there would make tensions worse. They were technically in the US but it does not feel like the US. Most local's are sweet, but there’s a large “get out gringo” contingency. I’d imagine it was only the team, maybe some random girls, as a social group. Pork and plantains get boring, the culture is more South than North American (culture shock can turn to feeling isolated), and it must have been unbelievably hot in the training room. Add expectation, ego, and shit talk to that mix and it’d be tough for very close friendships to survive without good communication. Love John and Gordon’s work, but I can’t see either saying, hey, you guys seem frustrated and we are too, perhaps we should all bring this to a head and talk it out.
I wonder what would have happened if they tried Texas first.
Puerto Rico also had some pretty crazy lockdowns and COVID restrictions, it wasn't exactly peak Puerto Rico during that time.
@@HectorMarquez bro you are so right with that. I grew up in Puerto Rico and even then I started to hate it. Looking back now I couldn’t believe I had grown to hate the place that I once’s loved so much…. And I wasn’t even living there full time. I hear it is much better there now and I have started to miss my native land
@@PlaciSantos I'm with you mi hermano, so glad it's finally getting back to normal!
Lmfao, there is a lot more to the split than that. 🤣😂
Thanks for sharing this, but the commentary is really not necessary.
Well, if I simply rip lex’s podcast what value am I adding? It would just be copyright 🤣
There's a video floating around saying that the REASON is because Gordon made Nicky have sex with his own girlfriend at age 16. And the resentment stems from this. Real or Not? I have no idea... but there definitely is a video floating around claiming this.
I think it’s a fake beef
B team isn't an awesome team unfortunately, they are high level for sure but they don't perform the same as they did under John
They are doing pretty damn well and New Wave's primary accomplishments come from the greatest grappler of all time. They are both top notch gyms.
That’s what happens when you don’t have a head coach
They literally performed the exact same in 2019 with 2 silver medals lmao. Danaher has NO ONE outside of Gordon..absolutley NOBODY. Gincarlo is a lucas lepri black belt. Danaher has 1 homegrown student Nickyryan from white to BB with 3 adcc losses now which proves danaher is not special he is just another top coach and nearly his entire team lost at adcc outside gordon lol. Kade rutolo is better than anyone that danaher as produced outside of Gordon ryan.......yet kade has never even met danaher. Stop spewing bullshit
@@REXAZOR sounds like B team doesn’t really care. Good vibes and jiu jitsu over winning
Nicky rod made it to the finals of absolute in less time than any other person in the history of the sport. He beat Felipe Pena on the way there. I would say b team is pretty impressive.
New team > B team
Easy content to make this. Play a clip of danaher speaking then repeat what he just said in your own words. I need to get myself an easy grift like this
If you're actually a content creator yourself, I find your comment hilarious 🤣🤣
@@KierenLefevre so what Kieren said was, if I was a content creator he would intact find my comment hilarious.
Guess I'm a content creator now. However, how much 'content' it contains is debatable
I think khamzat would roll right through Danaher s whole team. can any BJJ guy beat these Russian wrestlers? Apparently not.
Mikey Musemeci...
can any of those guys beat a dagastani wrestler...doubt it. BJJ days in mma are almost over. the Gracies had great market ing... fight guys with no experience to make themselves look good. hickson was "the best" and he never fought anybody of substance. wouldnt fight Sakuraba to keep the mystique in tack. Royce faced much better fighters. But was never highly regarded in The BJJ community. and no Gracies even in mma anymore.
How smart is it to leave the goat coach and goat coMpetitor and go train elsewhere??
Dude! Your neck is encroaching on your shoulder real estate! Wtf?
what neck?
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Weird. Can't seem to figure out why the team woulda split up. Gordon seems like a super classy guy. 🤷🏻
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New Wave did great at Adcc22 but, b-team clearly came up short.
And, watching Gordan destroy Nicky Rod so quickly had me in stitches🤣
Lex is such a bad interviewer jesus, every corp ceo is going to love to go on his podcast to say whatever they want to say without any hard questions
Isn’t he a “free thinker” or some weird thing like that
Joe Biden? He wouldn't even have to read the answers written for him..
It’s a 4 hour long podcast not an interview. Much more conversational in tone.
Lex doesn't come across as very bright to me. His academic credentials say otherwise but I just don't see it.
Making up fake rivalries just to make money
B team made a bad call leaving John. Behind every great team is a great coach and that's a fact. The B Team is basically a group of dudes that are amazing at BJJ and train together. It is always easier to have a coach come up with your game plan, training, peak phase etc. I also get the vibe that Nicky Rod and Gordon can't stand each other. Call it a hunch, but it is a gut feeling I get.
Gordon is the King nevertheless! Heck he could train in my garage and still be the King. Long live the King in Jesus name
What’s the actual issue between the two brothers?? I bet you it’s over a girl…
Lol I doubt it considering Gordon has been with Nat for years now.
It’s always shmoney
His “laid back” attitude is not that at all. It is proven for a fact that by maintaining the same voice level drops anxiety, and allows someone to keep their head and emotions in check. This man could fuck up 99.9% of men in the world and break bones literally. It is sad how little people understand about psychology and how you can learn to control your brain and mood
Source on tone regulating emotions?
Lol dude stop it
Maybe not cuz his knees are fucked
He has Asperger’s. It’s not like he’s the most brilliant man in the world at everything and the master of all psychology. His whole life is dedicated to one thing because he has Asperger’s or more likely autism. Jesus dude, chill.
Reaching 😂
Nicky should do MMA, how is he going to top his brother in BJJ?
How do people fuck up the pronunciation of DANaher and call him DONanher? obviously not Kieran but Lex and Rogan continuosly do it.
all the cool jiu jitsu people call him "Donaher" in fact...the more you emphasize the "On"....like "Dohhhnaher"the cooler u are....
The superstar over shine.
The real reason: $$$