The All-New 2023 Honda Civic Type R is the most powerful Type R ever
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- The all-new Honda Civic Type R is the most powerful model in Type R’s 30-year history and has been engineered from the ground up to deliver thrilling performance with an addictive driving experience both on road and on the racetrack. Pricing and additional details on the 2023 Civic Type R coming this fall.
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More power, more speed, a manual gearbox, and no massive fake vents! Not to mention it looks like a straight-up Touring Car. This is shaping up to be a legend!
but it shares no resemblance to the OLDER older civic. not the ef3, not the eg6, not the ek9, hell, not even the ep3 or fk2.
@@skydive7054 it doesnt have to, its a new generation for a reason
@Skydive why are you comparing it to 30 years old cars?
Same as the prev gen theres no resemblance as the ek eg whatsoever so whats your point?
@@skydive7054 what's your point here? If there is even any
I hope it keeps the same driving feel of the previous generation. Just with added performance and a better exhaust note.
11th gen Si's feel so much better with driving feel, so I'm convinced the Type R will follow suit
I have a 11th gen si feels like a baby type r, since this is the case the r is going to be insane
@@Jester-yw7dg Can’t believe people wasted there money on the SI ..
Based on the new 2022 Civic they are much better at handling than the last gen and better rev-hang.
@@ryandevlin3057 can’t believe you talking when u havnt driven it lmao I had a 10th gen before but I’m getting the r when it’s out
For some reason, this is the first Type R I've felt is a proper homage to the EK9. And I loved that car when I was a small boy. Looks like I've found the Type R that I will buy. Simple, elegant design.
I always liked that bright blue one from the late 90’s. The two door that was greater than 100 hp per liter. Wasn’t it a 1.6L or something? I remember it was 180 or 200 hp and was blazing fast. I think it was sub 7 seconds back then
Pretty sure it was using some iteration of a b series back then. Those engines are such a dream
@@utcougar the only civic type r from 90s was what original poster mantioned, an EK9, the first civic type R. Yes it had B16b engine which was based on B18c from integra type r but with reduced stroke to 77mm making it a 1.6l with 1.86:1 rod to ratio that could rev to the moon, as it was 1.8 engine with 1.6 crank (and few other minor differences). Trully the greatest fwd car ever produced. FD2 would quite possibly take that crown had it had double wishbone like 90s hondas.
@@bluewanderer9903 doing a little research it seems it was 99-2003 “ish”. Blue color. 2 door. Non-hatch. Looking on wiki seems it was a “seventh gen” from my 2 minute research. I’m a hardcore Porsche guy and I remember it had more hp per liter than a 911 and even though it wasn’t competitive with the 911 turbo in any sense of the word the hp/liter ratio wasn’t so far fetched from the turbos numbers. I really wanted that blue civic as a college kid. It was very! pricey back then. Late 20k range I remember in 2005 buying my first Porsche which was a boxster S and they were running right around $40k for a used 2002. That gives you an idea how expensive the civic Si was (many years prior to when I could afford a used boxster). That boxster S today is at least $80-90k MSRP, putting the civic Si way up there
@@utcougar it wasnt a type r then. 7gen are 01 to 06. If you are from US, I dont think you guys had type r till 10gen came out, think that was your first R badged civic. The above mentioned ek9 is Japanese market only, but it was quite common in rhd europe as gray import.
But the car that was famous for its bhp per liter was S2000, it had 120bhp per liter. The pre-face was 99 - 03 and blue was one of its colours, maybe thats the one you are thinking about?
Yes all hondas are up there with pricing considering the class, especially the performance models.
Honda doesn't simply sell a type R. They sell driving experience 😎💪
For only $70k (after dealer mark-up), you too can experience this incredible piece of Honda engineering.
😂 I do expect the price to go down as interest rates continue to hike like crazy
The power of dreams, literally, it's only in your dreams.
Hmmm. Think I will drive something useful. Like a truck for that price. Honda Civic for 70k. There is something you never thought you would here. Or the words President Biden. Both of which I reject
Only in 🇺🇸. Dealers cant sell over rrp in the uk 😏
@@TheSoundzUK i guess they're snatched up in UK quick then. At least in US if you have the money you can probably buy them.
I'm not even much of a Civic fan, but you guys really nailed this one. It's a step above its competitors design-wise; right up there with the Golf R in terms of the styling not looking like a bunch of gaudy trim pieces tacked on as an afterthought. Well done, Honda.
The conpetition now is about efficiency and MPG.. does honda knew whats happening around?
@@edreyez484 MPG? Better buy a hybrid instead lol
@@turbodarkle correct buy hybrid, peteol prices now is getting higher, economy is getting worse.. hahaha
@@edreyez484 civics and accords have always cared about mphy
@@leakyrexa1060 but not enough, unlike toyota with full line up of hybrids.. so sad honda..
Honda did a good job listening to consumers. Not too many people liked the previous generation’s fancy over the top look with fake vents and outrageous wing.
This looks amazing.
@Deto Qcney dude same. I asked a couple people now how they like this new one and they just say its ehh and that it looks like a mom sedan. I’ve been saving for a type R for a while and wanted to wait to get this new one but nobody likes the look besides Honda fanboys. Might just get a 10th gen
I liked the last generation styling, you guys are all corny
@@Visionary- I think it's very clean. What I think happened was last gen was so out there and flashy that by comparison, this gen seems so bland even if it is cleaner. I like both type r's and both have pro's and cons. The new one is clean but doesn't scream Type R as much as last gen imo.
@@ToyMachine471 oh yeah for sure. Idk though I’m slowly starting to like this new one Ik it going to be marked up for sure but like I said I’ve been saving for years now so I might still pull the trigger on this one.
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@@Visionary-
💎 this is a home run Honda 🙏🏽 Thank you for not giving up on an enthusiast car, the manual, the handling, the styling and the sport. You are a legendary company!!
I love the design so much more than the previous one. No more fake, fancy aeros and intakes.
Other than the vents being fake, i think its going to be hard to beat the looks of the outgoing type r especially the front end, it was just gorgeous. I also likw the wing from the previous model a little bit better
@@dominicjeanb2063 bro the last gen Type R was easily the ugliest version of Type R ever made. The only thing I could agree with is maybe the wing on the 10th gen felt more “natural” but other then that this 11th gen is probably the best looking Type R to date. They knocked it out of the park with the design.
@@813GC the rear end of this one looks uglier than last gens
@@zakm4012 bro the last gen civic as a whole was the ugliest civic. It had cheese graters on the back. 😂😂😂
@@813GC exactly lol this is far better
As a current FK8 owner, I've always loved the eccentric, extreme, almost "kiddish" looks of the FK8 that was so polarizing to people. Honda was definitely going for a more mature/refined look for their civics and this new FL5 Type R is very much in line with those design cues. When comparing the outgoing FK8 (and even the FK2) and this new Type R, I like both for different reasons, and they both appeal aesthetically to me. Very curious if it puts out different HP/torque numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. More likely, they further refined the suspense, transmission and overall handling.
Edit: watched a few more videos and Honda has already stated that the new Type R 2.0T will make more HP. My guess is anywhere from 15-20 HP more.
I agree the FK8 was amazing. However you can always add the red trim back if you desire aftermarket, which is what I'd do probably
Rich bastard
your guess is correct
I think it is more making the design also a part of the performance for me.
Vents are fine, but fake ones are sort of stupid.
So I likes the design of the old type R. But in the end I like this better because the design ques they took enhance the cars look and performance.
Too bad dealers continue to destroy the market and these cars. They are purposely trying to keep production numbers low. The car would have likely triple the sales if you could actually get one at the promised MSRP... Dealers need to be eradicated. When I went to look at FK8's last year, most were in the $50-55,000 range... On a car that is supposed to be $38,000.
Beautiful Design 🤩, for the first time since 2 decades, this Type R looks just awesome. Very excited to see it live.
I had really high hopes and expectation for the new FL CTR and I'm pleased to say that it meets and exceeds all... and I haven't even seen a technical review yet. Can't wait to see it featured on Throttle House or The Grand Tour.
Thank you lord xavier
@matt tim they’re just interested in 0-60
Huh, they 180'd completely. Even the interior is pretty reserved other than the red seats. I like it but I'll be honest, I dug the silliness of the last one.
Whaaa i thought you guys didn't like the previous gen bcz of how it looks and those fake vents now honda gives you a tamed and somehat pretty normal design and now u dislike it?
Haha many like us got used to it.. but well whatever we complained about before is what they decided not to do this time, and this feels like a proper upgrade to the FK2
Facts
You can always make it silly if you want by modding it. On the other hand, it's much harder to make a silly looking car look normal through mods.
@@yaboiyosef7640 agreed
I wasn't very optimistic with the first images, but the final product truly looks amazing!! Love the interior!!
It's wider than the standard civic aswell, so it has that f80 vs f30 feel when you pull up to any other 11th civic.
THIS…. THIS is the Honda type R product the fans have been waiting for.
obviously the deservedly worthy predecessor of the ek/eg/dc cars from the golden era of Honda.
whoever styled this thing deserves a raise - They KILLED it!
As a former S2000 owner this appeals to me! Nicely planted proportions with sensible and classic body lines. Good.
Hype is real! Can't wait for my new favourite car model! Keep killing it Honda, love you
This is a masterpiece of cinematography and what looks to be an even greater car. Well done, Honda.
Absolutely exquisite! Can’t wait to test drive one of those beasts: 🙏😎👍
Absolutely beautiful! Built in Japan, ladies and gentlemen we may be looking at the last true JDM Civic Type R. As a businessman who wants something fun and practical it’s hard to imagine yourself in the FK8 but this FL5 is nice, subtle and mature. Great job Honda👍!!! I’ll make my final decision when the Integra Type S is revealed.
Can't wait to see a civic I will be able to buy in 20 years :D
Inflation and second hand market situation, end of the line for gas cars, stupid europe laws... Boy I hope we will be able but ain't for sure :'/
Dont worry buddy ill keep the seat warm for ya
This looks epic. Bringing the flare back down a notch, but kicking the performance to the next level!
Get ready for the 60k mark up prices
Honda started meaning business 😳
@@TheAnnoyingBoss they always meant business they have made some amazing cars
Now that! Is what a civic should be!! Totally awesome looking and beautiful but sporty and still with the aggressive look. Just perfectly designed. Great work Honda!
THANK YOU HONDA , this is video is sensational I loved to see the tribute to all the type r models and gen where we see photos of every type r from the NSX to the last type r version . I like the words used in the video as well it seems like HONDA is going in the right direction I love Hondas specially my EP3 .
Wow! Looking very promising
Can't wait for the Autobahn test from you guys😉
The rear tho
Oh my gosh, it's AutoTopNL -- please do POV as soon as you can :)
Good morning guys. I am looking forward to a quick ride on this Type-R on the Autobahn
Nice! Can't wait to get these at our dealerships! Mark up is gonna be crazy.
now can you get me a 50% discount with an FN2 trade in please?
Pre order directly no mark up.
i dont have a civic type R but i have a 9th gen accord coupe v6...honda for life
Bravo Honda! Such a beautiful and more mature looking car! I can't wait to test drive this car and hopefully purchase one to put into my garage!
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I can't wait to see that new Civic Type-R.
I can't wait to see the new Wesley type C
@@electrikoptik ;)
Not a civic fan but my gosh!...this is literally a work of beautiful craftsmanship in the hands of a very skilled artist. Yes, I intentionally tried to cram _"craftsmanship"_ & _"work of art"_ together in the same sentence for this had me in absolute awe. Well done civic San! You are now ready....
Continues the Type R legend.Thank you Honda for creating another spectacular Civic.
I will be honest, as a old generations Type R fan, I loved the new design, It remembers me so much Eg6 and Ek9, which are my favorite generations. At the same time they made it sophisticated, it also looks more sportive. My expectations for power is or 330hp. Or if they would let we dream 350hp.
I agree with ya about the exterior design. The previous gen was too riced out. Pretty much why I didn't bother looking at one.
330hp might be pushing it on a fwd platform. I wish honda would just make it awd. I mean they have the tech in sh-awd already
I'm not sure you really want a lot more hp with fwd
It shares zero similarities with EG6 or EK9.
It has Maserati taillights, 4 doors, & it's shaped like a Kia Stinger.
This isn't a Type R. It's barely even a Civic. It's a big fat mistake.
@@RENOWN55CHARGE thats exactly how I feel, its sad to see the car called a civic isn't really a civic but there's no changing that and just looking at it as a car it seems like its gonna be a cool car and it looks alright, you just cant compare it with the old civics, its just not really the same car
@@RENOWN55CHARGE Wahhh like a baby. Grow up. This is a Honda. This is a Civic. This is a R. This is good. What are you going to buy that is better? An Evo….er nevermind. A STi….err nevermind. A Cayman? Got 90 grand lying around? We wont go to the muscle cars that weigh 2 tons. No feel. We also wont go twins, under powered, no space. The R is in a class all its own.
I own a 2018 Type R. Honda, you've really outdone yourself on this one. I'm sure it will be brilliant
I’m not a car guy whatsoever but I like how the one u got looks. I’ve seen one irl and sheeesh.
WELL DONE with this one HONDA!!!
This gen could turn out to be an ICON!
Looks really great, looking forward to seeing it in person!
can honda sell it straight to us? 😂 I don't want added markup pricing haha
Finally! The Type-R is coming!
This is what we want ! Thank you ! Really thank you Honda ! ❤
I love Honda company because it is the symbol of hardworking and quality. Sincerely a man from Iran .
i think we can all appreciate them doing full red interior including carpet and floor matts just like the older gen type Rs!!
I love Honda so much, I wish I could work for them in the future designing cars. This car looks amazing and seems to drive amazing. I wish I could get my hands on one, just to feel what it's like. I can't afford one and probably won't for a long while unfortunately, but I'm waiting for that someday!
You can do it !
Thanks homie, I appreciate it!
Make designs so good on renders that it will catch their attention.
You got this bro! Type R is a thing of beauty I would most definitely want one but sadly I don’t know Manuel.. sadly was never taught. Just recently got an 11th gen civic sport, you can have whatever you want in this life never say you can’t hope you get this beast of a car some day brother. 💯
@@nightsky7046 I bought my 10gen civic with no knowledge of manual and learned pretty fast! Feels discouraging at first and complicated but putting some hours in and you’ll get it down. It becomes a no brainer in a short period
Absolutely love the new body style wish I had the money for one of these but happy Honda finally getting into top teir status congrats 👏👏👏👏🎉
Man, what a year to be alive. Not only do we get a masterpiece of a Type R in the states, we’re also getting the GR Corolla! It’s a great time to be a car enthusiast.
New civic type R, new Nissan Z, GR Supra, new Corolla. And they all look good. The Japanese got it when it comes to making these cars. I love my 10th gen civic hatch.
The new WRX? I know it's not for everyone... but I've seen a few in person and I love it.
No more STi though 😔 it’s a shame the Subbie boys can’t join us this time
@@David-cj8wv truth
No, the GR Corolla got it right. The others, not so much... and I'd put the FL5 CTR dead last.
@@copperkeyracing6167 you just sound like you have a thing for Hondas lol I see you in the comments hating 😹
Can't wait to see my future car!!!
And then you wake up
🙂
Yep. Future .. future ^^ can't afford this before another 10 to 20years, once they'll ban gas engines :')
@@CaptainFalcon92 that's it 🤭
I want this so badly! The era of performance cars with combustion engines and front wheel drive will come to an end, but this car will be the peak and the best car in this segment. Happy Birthday to the Type R family, greetings from Germany.
Thanks Honda, it looks amazing!
Ese carro está muy bonito. Felicitaciones a HONDA. Saludos desde Canadá🇨🇦
I love this car, it looks so good. That aside will there be black interior options? I know this is a hard ask and Type-Rs religiously come with red seats, but I personally would love to see black carpets and seats.
Amazing job!!
Amazing, I love it.
Thanks Honda for bringing back 4 door sedans as Type R and for the design, exterior and interior that reminds me of the 90's Civic's.
Thank you.
どうもありがとうございます
Let's go Honda !
Amazing! Personally, I would like the front to be more aggressive.
Nailed, absolutely amazing.
I woke up at 5am to see the unveiling. Worth it.
Honda has came such a long way. This is so amazing and I can’t wait to see it in person!
Honda has come a long way?? WTF are you talking about lol. They been making good cars since it's inception.
@@mikea5205 obviously…they were the first Japanese company to build engines and transmissions in the U.S. & until now, I’m saying they always go all out and please their customers. I have a 09 civic LX sedan with 105k miles and I love it.
Will a new Nurburgring FF record video published on July 21st aswell?
I don't normally like newer vehicles but this looks sick. I might have to consider getting one.
man that music in the background is so good
Love it. I wasn't a huge fan of the body styling of the previous but this one does it for me.
I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden hates the aggressive look
Copy that.
@@Ota_ku69 idk either the Fk8 is 🔥. I’ve owned 3, they all died in accidents that I didn’t cause.
@@Ota_ku69 for me, it looks too aggressive especially when you compare the styling to that of the naturally aspirated type r's
@@eln0n01 3? Sounds like you’re the common factor dude lmao
Now it's official, the king is back! ❤️ 🙌🏻 One thing I absolutely LOVE about Honda is how they listen to their customers 🥰 people said the last Civic Type R was over styled, and now they even made the wing black, so it doesn't stand out ❤️ I actually did like the FK8, but I just love how Honda listens 🥰 Long live Honda and the Type R lineage! 🙌🏻❤️
Trust me, they aren't listening. Coming from a new Honda buyer that has pleaded with them to fix the 2nd gear grind issue with their kseries transmission for over 20years. They won't admit to it, but all you have to do is go over to their parts department and buy the $150 part over the counter. If anyone can get then to change their ways, I'll tell you what part you need, and will buy a new Honda again. Until then, no thx.
@@copperkeyracing6167 Oh my 😖 That sounds horrible man! 😖😖 But, to back up my argument, I'm also a BMW fan, and trust me, Honda listens a lot 😅 BMW is so stubborn with their big grilles and them mocking their heritage that I don't even want to like their cars anymore 🥲
the king is back? the king of what? of squeeling front tires at launch?
@@kybiras1 The king of Hot Hatchbacks! Like maybe the Veloster N and now the GR Corolla would like to have a word on that 🧐 But until it is defeated I will hold it there 😅 (But maybe the Veloster is the most fun of the 3!)
I owned an FK8 Type R. Out of all the sports cars I’ve owned (a lot) it was the most fun, best handling and my favorite, by far. For a civic it was incredible! I can’t imagine what this new one is like to drive!
Thank you Honda for this work of art!
It looks like the new one would still look pretty good without the wing whereas the old one needs the wing to complete its look.
What on earth are you talking about. The 10th gen hatchbacks look completely fine without a spoiler lmao
@@ven0m933 they look fine but they don't look good lol
But would you want to rock it without it though? The wing is landmark on the TypeR
If you ask any guy like 25 or under if it looks cool they’ll say yes, if you ask any female any age they’ll say it looks better without
Looking great, as expected 👏🏻 One question remains open: What about it‘s Nurburgring time? In this video there wasn‘t even a teaser about a possible new record 😢
Good job Honda, the ultimate company that knows what is real driving. Power of dreams!
DESIGNED AND BUILT IN JAPAN BABY! THIS WILL BE AWESOME !!!
El momento más esperado por la humanidad
Minimal and simple designs are always timeless 👍 definitely prefer this civic over others
That sequence with the previous generations is amazing.
Amazing, as usual.
I'm in love. Never been a fan of the previous type r but this is a beauty.
🙄
Yeah it went from a hotwheel to a car an actual adult can own without embarrassment
@@Ghosty_cat_ True. The previous gen is factory rice.
@@Ghosty_cat_ that's what I'm saying lol
I personally liked the last gen because it looked very complex and had a very unique look that is unmistakable in the street, this one looks a bit bland than the last gen but then again I like the simplicity like the 99 Type R.
Also I wished it was 2 door, 2D looks way more sporty
Can't wait to see my future car that I'm sure gonna buy once it comes out 🔥❤️
Get ready for that markup tho
They are probably only manufacturing a limited run for 2023 good luck
@@cameronjamesdowns7385 only 6800 with 20% of those going to UK.
Im going for the GR Corolla. Might drive out of state for it.
@@gamingjay141 cool but too small for me I need a long car for long ass legs to fit it comfortably 😂 civic it is 😉
we love it honda, good job crew
Now this is called a launch....now that's an ICON.
Happy that Honda still recognizes the internal combustion engine and its future. The SI gearbox has always been great to drive. Will obviously be thirsty for the higher-octane fuel to enjoy this machine to its fullest, just like its predecessors. The interior is much better. Less "wild" and "boy racer" than in past offerings. They'll sell every one they make, no question.
I never thought I’d say this but this type r looks soooo clean for being an 11th gen civic
Reminds me of my old EK9 so fun!
It needs to looks like civic from 2020 from the front
DAMN THAT WAS SO PERFECT
Hey HONDA!! Info we want to hear on 7/20:
1. Performance #’s and mechanical specs.
2. Availability for all markets (with eta for delivery of first units).
3. Price.
Please don’t waste out time with another “Dj dance off” like the Si.
Simple right?
Thanks.
Manufacturers never release pricing at Launch look at GR Corolla announced 2 months ago and no pricing details
All i herd FWD still im out. Staying with my sti.
@@alexleal7643 you really expected an AWD type r? keep dreaming bruv, FWD is Type-R's DNA. STI are nice tho
@@alexleal7643 The whole point of the type R was supposed to be the best driving FWD car. The TLX type S would be nice but it's quite heavy and only available with a DCT...
@@zaydabbas1609 I miss when acuras where light lol my acura el only weights 2.6k pounds
GR Corolla: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
Civic R: VTEC KICKED IN YOOOOOOOOOOPO
Nah. Nothing from any JDM can beat Toyota sport car line up @GR right now.
GRCorolla is still better... better looks, better AWD system, better backing from a higher sales numbers/larger company, even more underrated power, better packaging & options... not much competition, but we'll take any too keep Toyota going in the right direction (like the Z causing the Supra to come with manual)
Thank you for the english version ^^
Is there some F1 tec inside?
I hope it gets like at least 315 to 320hp 🔥🔥🔥
FK8 had 320hp so this is more powerful I think
@@user-eb6nb5zp8c it has 306 hp not 320, the new one will probably have 315 hp
@@spongy179 in Europe the numbers are 320, everything's the same but im pretty sure I watched a video about it and their octane is higher
@@spongy179 Our type R did 336 fully stock on the dyno. Im pretty sure Even if it had „305“ it would still be more.
@@Aiakooo 1 reason why hp doesn't mean anything
This is going to be one of the coolest cars you can't buy this year.
when is it going to be available for us media to drive it? whe look forward to, looks hot!
Best CTR since the EK9. Just beautiful
Im sure it will handle beautifully but I think the exterior design still could have been a bit more sleeker and elegant (although it is HUGE improvement over the previous gen), I really liked how bespoked the little pillars (or how is it called) in the front mask in front of the intercooler seemed in the prototype car, here they arent so bespoked but it might due to the colour and lighting. I must say that I really like the new interior, especially the new dash and infotainment!
Love that this is grown up from the FK8.
Now give me an Integra Type S with this motor, but an old man interior and softer suspension 😁
Wow bravo to the whole Honda team ❤️
As a mustang guy and a friendly foe of Hondas, I respect their game so much! This car is awesome. And now that I have a kid, I’m thinking to cop one! I need four doors now! What better way to get it! I just hope dealer mark ups are crazy!
This looks better than I expected, seems like it’s my new dream car!
Have some standards lmao. "Dream car"
It's a civic bro. We all want one, sure. But DREAM CAR? 😂
@@TheAliceQuo ok karen
@@TheAliceQuo yeah so? Any problem?
@@TheAliceQuo Karen has unleashed its Karaness!
I was laughing at the design at first, but I am starting to dig it better, even though no matter how much improvement this Type R has, I still prefer the looks of the FK8.
For me it is the very edge of design Honda has put forth for such a solidly established legend. ^^
Agreed fk8 looks way better but this is seriously growing on me
@@jamalkhan3981 I would’ve said the same but everyone I show or ask what they think of this new 11th gen say it looks like a mom car.
Honda would sell a lot more of these if they offered it with a dual clutch transmission.
This is the Type-R I have been waiting for!
Wow, the car is a significant improvement over last gen.
Can’t wait to spend $65k on a Civic 😂 So excited for this to come out!
Should be more like 40k and dealer markup for 45-50k
Plz don’t. It makes it so much harder to buy them at msrp if people just overpay for the hype
Why are you overpaying?
I am already on a waiting list for msrp ha!
@@wanglee21 Key words there is "should be" - but it will be more like 55-60k easily when it's all said and done.
so much better than the last one! this looks like classic Honda type R from 2000 and before
I am STUNNED. That was impressive
I wonder how this would look with mugen