The Differences Between Cults And Religions
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- The Differences Between Cults And Religions
Hemant Mehta (www.friendlyatheist.com, / hemant , / friendlyatheist )
Every time I see an article about the Jehovah's Witnesses, or Scientologists, or any other relatively small but powerful religion, there are inevitably commenters who chime in and say, "It's a cult!"
Which makes you wonder: How come those groups are cults but the Catholic Church or the evangelical megachurch next door are not?
What's the difference between a religion and a cult? Is it brainwashing? Because I would argue that teaching kids evolution is a lie or being gay is a choice qualifies. Is is about abuse? Because we've seen abuse in the Catholic Church.
There's a saying that religion is an old cult. And a cult is a new religion.
But that's not exactly accurate. So, really, what's the difference? Is it just about popularity? Unpopular, newer religions are cults?
There's not necessarily a set difference, but here's what you should look out for:
1) A cult doesn't let you leave. A good religion, if we can call it that, lets you come and go without a problem. Sure, they want you to stay, but they're not gonna come after you if you stop believing.
2) A cult only lets you associate with other cult members. Do you have friends who aren't atheists or Christians or whatever you are? Good! A cult doesn't let that happen. And if you leave the faith, they're done with you.
3) A cult may require you to live with other cult members. Like in a single home or commune. With religions, you live on your own and come together every so often to worship.
4) Cults have singular leaders with all the power. He has special access to the truth and no one else does. That's different from megachurch pastors, who might love the spotlight, but even they won't say the road to salvation goes through them.
5) Cults don't let you disagree. If you challenge the teachings or disagree with the theology, you should be able to have a discussion and debate about it. Most churches are okay with that. There are Christian apologists who run around trying to defend the faith from its critics, which is good, because it means they're comfortable having that conversation! Questioning your beliefs is a good thing. I mean, if your religion can't handle your questions, then you should leave it.
6) Cults are exclusive, even from within. You might be part of a cult, but that doesn't mean you're saved. You might have to be more dedicated. Or give them more of your money. Religions don't work that way. Accept the divinity of Jesus and you're golden. Follow the tenets of Islam and that's that.
7) Cults are secretive. Only some people have access to all the cult's information. Their finances. Their leadership hierarchy. Their beliefs, in some cases. You have to pay money and level up to learn Scientology's biggest secrets. Most religions aren't like that.
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When it comes down to it, not all religions are cults. But they sure as hell dabble in it every now and then. There are religions, like Jehovah's Witnesses, that will disfellowship you -- shun you -- if you leave them. Your family won't even talk to you anymore.
There are evangelical churches that do not share any information about where the tithing money goes, or how much the pastor gets paid. There are churches that act like questioning your beliefs is a sin. That you just have to have faith.
So there's some overlap every now and then. But it's usually not complete overlap.
Also, what's an acceptable religion in the U.S. might be considered a cult in another country and vice versa.
I'm sure Christianity was considered a cult around the time of Jesus.
Scientology operates like a cult, but the IRS considers it a religion.
What I'm getting at is that it's not clear cut. And the list I gave you is not comprehensive -- I'm sorry if I missed something obvious.
But that also means it's unfair to use the word "cult" as a pejorative every time a religion does something you don't like. Don't make that mistake.
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Sometimes, a cult is a state of mind. Families often reject and condemn opposing or questioning beliefs.
Being a atheist in South Africa is hard, because everyone around me is highly religious and literally twitch when the hear I'm a atheist. I only know 2 people that's atheists.
Worst is that they tell me that I am doing my boy unjust by not baptizing him and teaching him about religion. My point of view is when he is at the age of reason, he can choose what to believe.
Jandre Jacobs I know the feeling. There aren't many in South Africa. And so many people that look down upon me because they think that I'm stupid for not having an imaginary friend. They think that I'll eventually "see the truth" 😒
Jandre Jacobs sad but true, I don't know a single atheist and it gets repetitive hearing how I need Christ or I'll go to hell
Jandre Jacobs I am a South African too. It's HARD being secular but I'd rather be judged for following the right path than to be accepted for being a “sheep”.
letisha girdhari
A teacher at my school told me that once. I thought to myself “You're mistaken. You still have much to learn but because you are now old and stubborn, you can't be saved.”
Living in the midwest usa is the same way. I only know one other person who is brave enough to admit they are an atheist in my town.
So was Jesus and Mohammed cult leaders? made people follow them and said the road to salvation is through their way?
hmm
Yes, that's an example of what cult leaders tell you to believe. Back in the time of "Jesus" there were lots of savior messiahs preaching on one hill or another. It's probably a bit harder to get your flock to believe nowadays. If a "true messiah" were to appear today, how long would it take this guy to get himself locked up in a mental ward?
Woah you're gonna say Jesus did miracles but say Mohammed didn't? Mohammed flew to heaven on a pegasus, you're gonna say that didn't happen? What method are you using to prove jesus' miracles are true but mohammed's aren't? Also, Alex Snowberg already replied with a good post of what Jesus made his followers do.
Sighs. Not exactly
khaosjoker909 I agree with what you said, except Muhammad was absolutely a real person. The Byzantines had phenomenal historical records and he is mentioned in these, but not Jesus.
Hemant, my parents are fundamentalist Christians. It occurred to me to ask my mother a couple years ago whether she had any friends outside her church, and she admitted that (aside from my siblings and me) she only associates with people inside her "fellowship." Then she added they do business in her church the same way. Not that she wants to leave, but she couldn't without fear of losing almost everyone in that isolated world like her hair stylist, her accountant, and even her doctor.
It really depends on how the person lives his (or here her) Christian faith. I'm Christian in France and in my religious education, I was raised with the respect of others, the rejection of judgment (a lot of people forget that Jesus teaches not to judge each other), and benevolence. Thus, growing, I have a lot of friends, colleagues outside the church. And I do not believe because of fear. I believe because the God of the Bible really touch me. What I'm trying to say with a lot of clumsiness is that all Christians do not live their faith in the same way. I do not recognize myself in your mom's life and maybe your mom's life will not recognize herself in mine. The only consistent basis of the Christian faith is the Gospel and the Bible. How the people live the message of Jesus can vary between the 2 billion Christians.
I think that the only thing that can be surely a Christian behavior is the fact to love God by loving" your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 22, 37-40) and with a real love through disinterested charity, kindness, and non-judgment. For the rest, we have to be careful to separate what really comes from the Bible and what is more the peculiarity of a community. What is, I admit, really difficult.
PS : I'm sorry for the grammatical mistakes. English is not my mother tongue
So what you are telling me is your mother is part of a cult.
That isn't what Christianity even teaches you just saying...
Your mother is a bit of an idiot.
You see the fact that she goes along with that belief structure and has been for so many years the whole "But she couldn't without fear of losing almost everyone" statement is hilariously stupid.
Her hair stylist? Really? Get a new one.... Accountant... oh no so rare... Doctor... hell there is only 1 Doctor in existence right?
Guess the apple doesnt fall far from the tree does it.
@@cedricbazile2222 even in so called cults, there is diversity like religion. Christianity had hundred of years to grow from a cult to a religion. Even Islam isa cult today
Coming from a Christian who stumbled across this video I say you broke this down very well in general terms... for whatever it’s worth
So I just found out I was raised in a church that functioned like a cult. I always felt off about it but now I can finally take a breath and realize that it’s not me just being “too picky” or “evil”.
Yes me too I was raised roman Catholic! But I left all cults and became Buddhist!
What? Are you. Just making this up? Religious is cult.
a million likes from myside bro. love from an ex muslim. pakistan. love you. its a really under rated channel. you are a really good man
Glad you made it out man, power to you brother.
Counterargument: religions and cults are part of the same spectrum but share some or all of the bulletpoints you've listed in differing degrees of severity.
Anthropologically speaking, there is no difference. It's mainly our perception of good or bad, such as sacrifice of another human is perceived as bad in modern times. I've asked my Religions professor about this because I was curious. Your definition isn't accurate because you say that only those who are in the cult know everything of their belief, but if you are an outsider you know very little. All cults are religions, but not all religions are cults you can say. Personally I don't differentiate between the two, because there are so many negative behaviors to religions, especially the monotheistic ones, that lean towards cult like behavior in the sense that they will alienate those who oppose their rule and belief.
Katey4ever+ Exactly.
but it isn't always negative.
While I can appreciate that you aren’t bigoted enough to declare all religions bad. And even know that there are polytheistic ones, I would tell you you are wrong in the sense that believing that monotheistic religions are cult like just on the assumption that your belief of a religion is organized religion when in reality religion is an individual’s beliefs. I’m quite surprised this has not picked up more in the western world considering how much we value individualism instead of group dynamics. One annoyance I’ve always had is when people try to tell Christian’s what they can and can’t do when they’re not Christian (example: some redditors telling me I can’t play dungeons and dragons because it “glorifies paganism” when it’s a role playing game. You can do whatever you want in D&D and there’s even Paladins in the game. You can scrub it of “paganism” and it’s still the same). Additionally these people will accuse us of cherry picking beliefs when in reality people are just going along with their own moral compass. What’s wrong with being part of a group and disagreeing with the group? Most people within my religious group is fine with others who believe things outside of their beliefs and are still just as welcoming. I’m not gonna force anyone into “researching” or anything but it’s good to think beyond what you know.
Anthropology is a pretty big joke of a field.
I mean really if you are going to study ancient cultures you have to pick one..
Anthropology to me is the study of our genome and ancestry on a species level....
When people say its societies etc etc... its kinda hilarious as all of those things are broken up into numerous fields in modern time... why would it make sense to group them up for ancient people...
That would be like saying Sociology and Biology should be combined into one field when applied to modern humans....
Than again the current educational institutions are more or less there because well capitalism and usually provide very little actual information.. as well.. we live in the information age and most of the information you can get will be available on the internet...
Religions are fine. *But all CULTS MUST BE BANNED.*
What's the difference if not their popularity... They're both just as damaging to people's psyche.And society
Your channel is so refreshing. I always look forward to whatever your topics are about.
These are the kinds of videos I miss from you. Wish we got them more often.
As a Christian who has left a spiritually abusive cult, thank you!! This is all sooooo very true. I can see more clearly now.
Left one cult just to join another? Wow. Some people just beg to be taken for a ride. Geez!
It was an eye opener to realize that the church I had been raised in (the mormons) was very cult-like.
Every single religion is a cult.
They start off as cults and acheive religions status when they have enough followers.
The criteria this man lists are literally non existent and things they made up to qualify as a cult.
The defenition though is going to show you that all religions started as cults
Common sense also dictates they started as cults.. do you think magically everyone was christian catholic Muslim etc??
Naw lets be real you dont think that much.. many religious people do not think that much or are unable to have complex thought .. i dno.. they are literally unable to properly question things and prefer the comfort in false answers to the excitement of solving mysteries...
All I can say is...
Look up the evil history of the major 3 which mormons come from the same monothestic god that ruined our planet.
You do understand that the monothestic god has been causing the longest ongoing wars in our planets history. Not to mention the crusades... hell do not forget the attempted genocide against pagans...
Fucking dirty monotheistic slave is all I see when I look at anyone that follows an ideology based off the major three.
Indeed!! VERY! And bc they are so large and mainstream they are overlooked as are JWs bc people only see the most extreme cults where people are dying as dangerous. In actuality, Mormons and JWs and other larger religious sects like Scientology are far more dangerous bc they destroy many more lives flying under the radar for the most part...
Great video and thumbs up!
so all religions are a cult with the only exception being their leader being dead.
time!! todays cult tomorrows religion..
former Jehovah's Witness here. you are absolutely correct. Thanks for the great video
I was a mormon, and yes, according to this definition it is definitely a cult.
I was dating a boy that was a jehovas witness and he said he was going to leave in order to date me, around his 18th birthday he completely changed his mind because he didn't want to lose his family. He wasn't even allowed to hang out with people that weren't a part of his religion and it was so freaky. To each their own of course, but I just don't see why anyone would want to be involved in religion so much that it takes over their entire life
Jordyn Klegraefe pursuing the things of the world take up a lot of peoples time too. They join the others in drug abuse just to feel good or cope. JW drug is obedience to the true God and associate with others that also believe in Jehovah. Far cry from the worlds practices, which you chose.
Rita rita, JW's Bible translates "Kurios" as "Jehovah" throughout the New Testament, except in Romans 10:9, they left it as "Lord" in that verse because otherwise it would read "Jesus is Jehovah". The JW's are intentionally deceived.
It took an atheist to give me the best definition I've ever heard for what a cult is. Bravo young man. Im a christian with no church Because it seems modern Christianity wants our cash and it puts power mongering sharks in the pulpit. I had a near death experience and met Jesus face to face. Woe what an eye opener that was. One thing I learned was God was not interested in my wallet or where I went to church. He was only interested in my heart
What was his definition I would like to know
@@captaingalaxy5265 are u serious rn? He's talking about the video here lol
Great video Hemant! I love hearing your thoughts on matters like these. I was approached and invited by a cult for the first time a few months ago almost immediately after a death in my family, and it's easy to see how some vulnerable people can be sucked in by how friendly and idealistic cult recruiters can be. It's scary how easily cults seem to be able to gather information and money. I'm grateful for you sharing your thoughts and wish there was more education out there warning people about these parasitic organizations.
Thank you for clarifying these terms!
The Atheist Voice can I borrow your video for clips for my response? I have some good ideas to share.
please make a video on 1 corinthians 11 verses 2-9
it shows how sexist the Bible is
Can you make a video about your views on enlightenment/self realisation as described in eastern religions?. How true are they and can a atheist seek enlightenment?
what would you be enlightened to, not believing in a higher power?
Thanks answered the question right away! I was looking for a good answear for this.
Good points, I saw you on Jeopardy. I think you won.
Mashallah an athiest unbiasedly speaks about such topic.
bitch..islam is a cult...period...All the things he listed up there, perfectly fits the description the 'religion of peace'
I am not sure if cult vs not cult is the way to look at it. I have found looking at unhealthy group characteristics it more important. Just use it like a scale. How toxic is the group? Do they shun? Do they control your information? (banned books or websites), what happens when you openly question something? etc. In the end it is about having a healthy relationship with the group.
Pretty much sums up every religion then
I really enjoy your friendly, insightful videos without all the obnoxious rhetoric I see from other atheist sources. Keep up the good work! We'll convert more people with thoughtful reason and careful discussion in a friendly, loving way.
Thanks Hemant. Great points!
A lot of the secrets are leaked online, and they're hilarious.
Holy Koolaid did a video on this recently. It's a must watch.
Thanks for this video.. i really needed to understand the difference and you couldn’t have explained it better 🙏🏻
Religion has numerous followers...
Cults have few followers....
All religions start as cults...
Common sense says this is fact.
I appreciate the clarification. Thanks
If you had a choice for a god to exist would you have it exist or not
Eddie larios depends if it was any abrahamic god then hell no, if it was a god that was truly good then i wouldnt have a problem with him being around. but theres definitely no need for one
Eddie larios yee
Good question, Eddie. I _want_ to believe in a benevolent force beyond my comprehension that looks out for me and takes care of me in supernatural ways. However, I have to agree with Ben L in that Yahweh is one scary MoFo with an unsettling taste for blood and a most absurd sense of "justice" to make hell the default destination for everyone who hasn't -read- bought his book yet.
As long as that god isnt flooding people, killing people for pulling out, turning people into salt etc. Then absolutely
Nope. As a human, I'm a member of the most powerful species I've ever come into contact with. I don't want there to be something more powerful. There's a 50-50 chance he's a bad guy, and even higher than that chance he kills humans because we're bad. I'd rather exist.
I was forced to go to kingdom hall when I was younger and they taught us not to associate with anyone who was not Jehovah's witnesses. Pretty much how you described a colt is how Jehovah's witnesses are, at least in East Tennessee.
My church sent an evangelist after me when I tried to leave. I got away when I moved across the country and stayed out of churches. But a few years later they found me. But it was more to silence me.
Silence? What you mean?
Is edward tarte on you tube still alive it appears his most recent video was 5 months ago?
So...Islam?
Literally every religion especially abrahamic..
I'm pretending to be a JW because the consequences.
SumpNuther :( so sad, unfortunately I can relate
SumpNuther hello! I was a jw for 40 years. i understand. you must be sad to lose all your family if you leave....I understand...
Isn’t there a support group or something?
I was in your position literally until last week! Last night I came out to my JW family that I love so much. Freedom feels better my friend! Prove to yourself the importance of leaving that religion, its FALSE!
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You make good points for sure.
There can be GOD without RELIGION BUT NO RELIGION WITHOUT GOD OR CULTS
This is an interesting perspective. As a former Mormon, I can see some implicit, and explicit expressions of many of these qualities.
This video somehow reminds me of a video I made about the Taxonomy of Religion.
Fool.
The real differences between cults and religions is that cults are very secretive and subliminal while religions do the opposite by always being straightforward and by-the-book.
Source?
Mr Moth
Why sources if you can just visit churches, temples and lodges for yourself?
@@KenMasters. Wouldn't that count as a source?
Mr Moth
Of course it would, they themselves will let you know if they are a cult or not.
If they say “That’s a secret” to a question you give them, then that’s a cult.
If they hide no truths but rather give out something with no initiation as well as being open about the subject, then that’s a religion.
I don't know of any Religious organizations that have been transparent about finances. Especially in the wake of the discovery of mass graves of Indigenous children at Residential schools just confirms the barrier is pretty thin between Religion and a Cult.
Someone once told me "All religions are cults but not all cults are religions".
great video by the way
Literally no difference between religion and a cult
*The Differences Between Cults And Religions*
Hemant Mehta,
What you’ve arguing appears, in my mind, to be nothing more than distinctions without a difference. Why? Because, and speaking specifically about Christianity, the average Christian will say they only go to the location for fellowship. I.e., they are of the Body of Christ and ultimately get their marching orders from God whose word is revealed in their Holy Scriptures.
Now when you examine these _orders,_ the things about cults apply-as the dictates come from On High.
Examples:
“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers.”
-2 Corinthians 6:14
“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.”
-Matthew 10:37-39
"My personal relationship with the Lord Jesus."
“Once saved always saved.”
“The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it.”
Hemant Mehta, you only need ask this question: If a member of a cult, at the end, does not follow the dictates of the cult order/leader-drinking the poison, say-was it not, then, a cult? So Christianity is, at the widest and highest level, ultimately a cult.
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yinYangMountain it on
It definitely at least used to be. all his points:
back like (at least before) the Middle Ages people couldn’t leave the Christian church and people who didn’t believe were burned at the stakes. So immediately also no communication with people from an other believe.
And nowadays some people that stop believing are still shunned.
Monks live(d) in a monastery with each other, and sometimes alone and isolated.
The pope has a lot of power and has some more knowledge.
Back in the day people with (for example) the believes from what is now the Protestant church were also executed.
And now are still judged for believing something a bit different.
Also the church sold items that you needed to remove your sins called indulgences.
And if you didn’t you would go to hell.
So everything he says definitely applies/applied to Christianity.
It's difficult because it's *definitely a cult* , but its denominations spread so widely and it changed over time to where it almost "diluted" as most denominations abandoned the less fashionable beliefs like that and became more moderate.
Just another example of ala carte" christianity. Anyone who actually followed 100% of the bible's tenants would be in prison within a day.
it boils down to whether you believe God's word or not. He has given free will to all
Have you made a video analysing faith healing?
U rock Pahadi :p :p
I am a atheist too. :) :)
Hard to be one in India :D
A religion is an old cult and a cult is a new religion.
Bluemonsoon are you fucking kidding. I would rather believe science and reason than a magic man in the sky who made a man out of dirt and a woman out of ribs
Bluemonsoon it’s contradictory because it is not an actual believe system or religion but it is the absence of religion. For the rest it doesn’t mean anything. And you can believe in magic but still be an atheist as long as you don’t believe in a religion.
Also gender and Sex aren’t the same thing ducking jerk.
Bluemonsoon
except that atheism is just not believing in any god/religion, and is in no way related to a religion or cult
Thundernugget he JUST said that wasn’t true
what do humans go back to when they die? Decompose, into dirt.
I just wanted to say thank you for using the red flags and qualifiers from the psychological definition of the word Cult and not just saying "they all are" or something dumb like that.
As a Roman Catholic, I truly appreciate you making this video. The fact that you’re an atheist makes this more important that it’s on the internet. You’ve done a much better job than I ever have at explaining it. Mine is in the ball park but your explanation is articulated much better than mine.
And no, this doesn’t mean I’m questioning my faith. But I do value moments where people of different beliefs can agree on something. Thank you.
I used to be an atheist. Then I discovered the scientific method.
Good video though, I like your explanation.
I mastered the scientific method and became an anti-theist
@@SnarkyRC
You clearly don't know a thing about science.
Science prove thing that exists.
It doesn't prove the non-existence of things.
Why your channel didn't get banned for using "Atheist" as a name channel?
TH-cam Lovers It wont get banned, just less promoted
Atheist channels aren't technically being 'banned' per-say.. but strongarm tactics are being employed to push them to at least the sidelines. Tactics like removing all ad revenue (even going as far as blocking advertisers that specifically WANT their ads on atheist channels)
TH-cam Lovers He just calls them racist if they do
I hope all of the atheist's channel wont get banned from youtube, coz I think youtube is the only media platform that enlightened the society...
where did you even get this idea?
Dear everyone who has used the speaker's name in their comment
His named is spelled Hemant Mehta. He even put it in the video. Thank you.
Well said Hemant. I just woke up from JW's, and it is not too much fun. But when you're stuck, you don't realize. Especially if you like me grew up in it and haven't been the rebellious teenager that left for the freedom "to sin". Your videos help me to rebuild my worldview! Thank you for that!
Wassup fellow Christians
I'm an atheist but I'm gonna say God for the pun.
God, God is up.
Isn't the difference basically that if the leader or "founder" is alive it's a cult and if he's/she's dead it's a religion?
I have a question, I'm dating a Christian and have been for a long while, although he is extremely into his religion and speaks about it far more often then I am comfortable with, does not enjoy any questions I pose, hopes for me to somehow become one of his religion and believe in it and go to church and other things with him, and gets clearly "bugged" by even so much as a simple friendly joke. It's been quite a lot of time, but I still don't know how to address it
I don't know man, by this definition of "letting you leave" Heaven's Gate wasn't a cult. You were allowed to leave, no problem. Some people left, and they still even kept contact with those who didn't leave. There was no enforcing of anyone's presence there, you were free to join and free to leave with zero consequences. The leaders famously helped the "defectors" to book a flight and get to the airport to make sure they got back home safely. You were only there if you wanted to be and you were not cut off from the group if you left. I don't think there's anyone who wouldn't say that one was a cult. Meanwhile leaving some established religions in your community can lead to severe social shunning, whether mandated explicitly or not.
Exactly - i answered all of his points - see my posts above
Just because there are a few differences that does not mean they are not the same - for eg football and baseball are different but they are both sports
This guy has a you tube channel discussing religion and atheism and there are millions of channels like his on every subject in this world but they are all you tube channels
A difference here and there is not the criteria
A good religion? That's such an oxymoron.
"Good religions" Don't exist, all beliefs that push against science as a whole are terrible for society.
Even if a religion has good texts, the thing that really matters is how followers of the religion act. And all religions can be used to control people through fear.
Buddhism is a philosophy, not a religion.
khaosjoker909 jehovahs witnesses is good and the only good one. Don't believe what others say, they clearly don't want what's best for you. Go now and learn what they teach and discipline yourself as Jehovah will come soon, so many people aren't prepared for judgement and it saddens me that you'll rather watse your time than get closer to your Creator.
Illuminaties_Finest shut the fuck up
If Jesus ain't real? Then how is the world made so perfectly and idk god bless you
NateTheGamer 1 the world isnt made perfectly. Its good, not perfect
The world is amazing without mankind mucking it up!!!
NateTheGamer 1 the world is not perfect. It is far from perfect. It is decent at best. We are horribly made creatures. We have body parts we don't use and organs that fail easily. Our entire being is protected by less than an inch of bone. We are pathetic. But you don't care because "GOD DID IT SO ITS RIGHT" yeah, what a load of shit
The world definitely isn’t made good for us
We know more about the moon than we know about our own oceans
Most of us couldn’t survive long out in the wild, they survive now only in the safety of our man made cities and cultures
God made humans 'very good' It was their disobedience that started the 'dying' process.
as a Christian, this video was a pretty solid and objective take on the differences. Great content!
i would see video on the 48 laws of power. and your thoughts on that.
Jesus loves you.
lovetheland and wants you to kill your children if they insult you
No he doesn't. He's dead. If he's God, if he loved me, he wouldn't have created me so fucked up.
DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE SAY MY PROBLEMS ARE A RESULT OF MY FUCKING SINS! ARE YOU FUCKING SAYING I'M GUILTY OF SINS I APPARENTLY COMMITTED IN MY MOM'S WOMB!? FUCK NO! THIS IS WHY I WISH ALL CHRISTIANS WOULD DIE! YOU ARE SICK AND EVIL AND JUSTIFY YOUR FUCKED UP ACTIONS BASED ON A FUCKING BOOK!
Jesus addressed this issue and we have free will to take it or leave. Luke 13:1-5 English Standard Version (ESV)
Repent or Perish
13 There were some present at that very time who told him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And he answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered in this way? 3 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? 5 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.”
In commenting on the fall of the tower of Siloam, Jesus negates four assumptions that people often make:
1) Suffering is proportional to sinfulness.
2) Tragedy is a sure sign of God’s judgment.
3) Bad things happen only to bad people.
4) We have the right to make such judgments.
To each of these assumptions, Jesus says, no.
When we read of a tragedy in the headlines, we should resist the temptation to assign guilt to the victims, as if they had received God’s judgment. Rather, Jesus bids us look to the sin within us and take the headline as a warning to repent. The sudden death of someone should not be an occasion for blame but for self-examination.
funny how this athiest always talks about god and religion😂😂 not even religious ppl talk about god as much as these athiest
Johnny valle well you talk about your enemy...
Yeah, that was kinda my take when I was Christian. It's a paradox... if you're commanded by a holy power to obsess about something every waking moment, you're gonna slack off and distract yourself AMAP. As an ex-Christian, there might still be a lot of disassembly to be done in order to heal and move on.
Christians talk about homosexuals and Atheists all the time, and they hate them.
BEFORE YOU FUCKING ARGUE WITH ME, CHRISTIANS HATE GAYS AND ATHEISTS! YOU DON'T FUCKING TREAT PEOPLE YOU LOVE LIKE SHIT!!!
We don't hate them. You have been seriously lied to. You probably don't love to see someone you love lying or stealing or smoking crack? Yet you would still love that person and show them there is a better way I hope. I have Athiest friends who I love very much, and we have discussions without disrespecting each other. God loves all of us, but hates it when we defiantly rebel against him. Just as a parent would. I hope you can find peace with Jesus some day.
@@creativekoala9721 Jesus hates tyranny. This is why he died. He told his tyrant of a father to fk off. Or else we wouldn't exist today.
Great topic! Jokingly, I once heard that the difference between a religion and a cult was a lot of time and good P.R. 😆
Can you do a overview, or opinion based video on the Pentecostals/Apostolic church?
question? can you have a Cult that acts like a religion but give full freedom do as you will but is some else with in it self?
Once I was waiting outside a classroom for the teacher to get there. Another Mormon was there. She left to get a call. Everybody started talking negatively about her because she was Mormon. I did not stand up for her, I was afraid. I was also a member, but I was a convert of 3 years and new the outside perspective of Mormons.
Very good video. I was writing an essay about the world religions and I was wondering if some might be considered a cult. Thank you from a Christian .)
Yo Hemant...can you please do a video about this popular cult in the Philippines known as Iglesia Ni Cristo? Thanks!
did any of the commenters watch the video?
Everything you just said is exactly what Jesus said. I could of course quote the Bible but that's tedious.
Hemant, I like you videos a lot, You have good logic and reasoning skills. Every theist should watch them too to understand something important about their religion. If their belief is so strong as they claim it to be, they should be able to watch your videos without getting shocked to the core...
The difference is how much an ideology/set of beliefs is reigned in by secular humanism. Invariably, when someone asks about the set of beliefs a group holds, they're contrasting it with the values of secular humanism.
A cult is an insular set of beliefs of a group least compatible with secular humanism. A religion has at least made some strides to be compatible with secular humanism, and continually strives to do moreso. Its why we see the Catholic Church consistently tout how they address atheism and homosexuality in their ideology, but secular humanism never touts how it tries to align with church doctrine.
One major thing I've heard is the population. Cults have hundreds to thousands of members while religions have millions.
The term cult initially referred to the rituals for appeasing specific gods. When the Roman Empire converted to Christianity, it eventually started being used to refer to all pagans and then to people who worshipped the Christian god the wrong way.
As soon as I saw this video in my subs, I knew that whatever Hemant said that once I scrolled down to the comments there'd be idiots saying 'there's no difference', and sure enough...!
So openness is the key
of course but also be prepared for the rejection of ordinary unconscious people, something that is difficult for many! because we justhave a herd mentality and peer pressure and de desire to FIT in the majoryity, those powers cannot be underestimated
thank youuuu you helped me In my project. but I have a question tho... what if, if the religion have a God but have a founder too. that have an acess to all. but all members know all the teaching and it came from bible too
Some people don't know they are in a cult. They just think they are going to church.
thank you!
Maybe a video with the difference between a cult and a sect?
Thank you. Very enlightening. I'm a Christian and I'm glad that I can leave it without being excommunicated.
Nice point.
Is it possible that once a cult grows to be big enough that it can do away with many of these other means of control?
No, in fact they seem to try to keep the group smaller so they don't have to impose MORE rules and expose themselves. It typically goes along with the cycle of new members coming in, and the most unwanted are excommunicated for whatever reason. A lot of the time, the reasons are made up by the pastor, created, or exposing the worst secrets told in confessions. After people have those secrets revealed, they are automatically discredited, and any rebuttal they make is ignored by the congregation. (Unless they are brainwashed enough to not make "a fuss.")
Can you think of any scientific explanation for "miracles" as such? What about "eucharistic miracles" and "crying paintings" ?? Can you suggest a book to read?
Rock Nation Radio I have seen many comments of you under this video and you seem very immature
Rock Nation Radio no, it isn't. It is beyond the science, WE CURRENTLY UNDERSTAND. we don't have understanding of it yet, but you don't just get to say god did it because we don't understand
Try Harry Potter or Alice in Wonderland !
I was going to get married in the church I grew up in because I had that Til Death Do Us Part kind of feeling about what kind of ceremony I wanted. But when I met my old pastor, he gave me some weird kind of look like "What are YOU doing back here?" The whole thing felt wrong. So we just had a JP in a downtown city govt building wedding. Churches always made me feel creeped out anyway and all the hypocrisy from the teenagers I had to be around didn't help either. I'd guess having to put up with snobs and hypocrites was preferable to being around cult people who forced their followers to stay.
within the major religions, there are also cult like sub groups, like very conservative catholics who think Ratzinger was too liberal or extreme fundy protestants and there are also cults which have little to do with religion as a metaphysical believe system
The amount of real estate. It’s simply that
I would like to see a video about the new testament i have heard that different cults or religions don't use all the gospels if not all most notably catholicism but i can't find any information on that
or at least some one point me where to look
i just yesterday found you channel many like good luck
sorry about my english
"The Protestant Bible ... is seven books shorter than the Bible used by Roman Catholics. " Source: www.christianitytoday.com/history/2008/august/why-are-protestant-and-catholic-bibles-different.html
"The Holy Spirit inspired the authors of Sacred Scripture to write down God's revelation to us. As time went on, the Church compiled these books to form a Canon - an authoritative set of Sacred Scripture - and declared it 'God's Word.'" Source: www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/the-missing-books-of-the-bible.html
"Catholic and Protestant Bibles both include 27 books in the New Testament. Protestant Bibles have only 39 books in the Old Testament, however, while Catholic Bibles have 46." Source: www.usccb.org/bible/understanding-the-bible/faq.cfm
I hope this helps. I Googled: "catholic bible vs protestant bible" and got lots of hits.
It does ill check it out thank you.
Most of the issues and causes for atheist is the clueless following of tradition by parents. Growing up your parents tell you to believe in this thing because they want the best for you. But even they might not know a lot about that thing. Therefore kids grow up as clueless as the parents. Question everything, question all of your traditions , cultures, beliefes, morals, because it’s all taught. Try to figure out who you are on your own. This universe is too complex for it to work off of its own. I believe in an architect, an engineer, a creator. But not because someone told me to.
That is the prologue sweatshirt in GTA V Michael had on
It depends on what perspective you decide to tackle religion in. If we're talking about what religions have become, no they are not cults. But if you go down to the ideological level; it's not that obvious
The thing about Cults is that they will worship their pastor/leader instead of worshipping the one true God… there’s this documentary series on Netflix about this Cult in Korea called JMS and it is so disturbing and disgusting on what their “leader” did
Suggestion on a new video: how to revoke your religion if you don't want to be associated with it anymore. For example if you were a catholic, how you could officially revoke your baptism into the Church. I think it would be interesting and helpful.