Only thing missing was having it taken back for a TD 😂 If only this video came out 2 days sooner, Jakobi may have had time to watch it to learn the dangers of laterals in a tie game!
A note on Option teams: In the 1970's, UCLA was an Option team running out of the Wishbone. They used several quarterbacks but one of them is... Mark Harmon, of NCIS fame.
Mark Harmon’s father was 1940 Heisman Trophy winner Tom Harmon (Michigan), who went to war, then played a couple years for the LA Rams before becoming a broadcaster. Tom was UCLA’s play-by-play man on KTLA in the 60s and 70s, so he called his son’s games. It runs in the family.
I ran the triple option from a wishbone set in high school, so this was pretty fun to watch. It was very effective in high school, but at higher levels the athleticism makes it really tough to execute. Imagine having Miles Garrett flying off the ball and you have to key read him in like 0.3 seconds before your mega million dollar franchise quarter back literally dies.
Yeah, the main reason it's never run at the elite levels is because defenders are too fast and too good at their reads for it to work. It's all about forcing defenders to make bad or late decisions, and elite level defenders simply won't do that.
IMO it's less the athleticism (both sides of the ball get more at higher levels of play), and more the sophistication of the athletes. In high school, we spent a tremendous amount of time on one guy to translate the playcall into "which direction do I go". There were only 4 possible things he could do. He still got that wrong sometimes weeks later. Players like that should *not* be the one responsible for split-second decision making to defend option plays... In the NFL, players have numerous responsibilities depending on not only coverage called, but those also change depending on what the offense does. The strength/speed pushes human ability, but the technique is sophisticated too, even in oline vs dline exchanges where it's just one guy trying to beat the other that remains true. These players have a *much* easier time wrapping their heads around concepts like "who has the pitch man" and doing scrape exchanges vs read options. It's why modern option calls at the pro level have gone out of their way to be less predictable...for who the read man will be, mixing in pass options, and altering how the blocking gets done. Defenses then adjust. It (usually) becomes pretty easy for teams with pros to crush play calls they know are coming. In high school? On many teams, half of those guys still won't know what's coming even if the opposing offense has only 10-20 plays and they watched film on it, lol. Doesn't take many blown assignments to score, so the option can work great if the other side can't just blow your linemen backwards and make up the numbers problem created by option that way.
The option play is the final remaining remnant of the game that inspired American football, Rugby Union, which is entirely about drawing in defenders and decision making
@@barryallen871 i meant regarding strategy and such, because apart from that they are wholly distinct from one another and it’s always so annoying when I try to talk about rugby with someone here and they’re like “well it’s just football without the pads”
@@fishflake1209 they originated around similar times for different reasons, American football as we know it and rugby league were created in the mid 1890’s, both of which breaking off from rugby Union.
I've always believed that if an offense drilled some rugby plays and got guys to focus on making short and lateral passes they could have some absolutely lethal plays. Defences just wouldn't know how to cover offloads and passes out of tackles rugby style.
"Army decided to try the Offensive Line QB Sneak which is illegal and something that the Army would never do." [KOFIE stares hard at the camera for one hour]
In an interview, Tom Osborne (the legendary head coach of Nebraska from the late '70's to the late '90's) said that Nebraska is mischaracterized as an "option team" because NU only ran the option about 20% of the time. Nebraska under Osborne was a very diverse running team of which the option was only one "option". ; )
That's how the triple option is mostly used by the military academies these days. Since at least the early 2010s. It's either a Designed QB Run. Or it's a FB Dive 60% of the time. The thing about running the option out of the flex bone is that it's much easier for the b and a back to get out and engage the 2nd level defenders to give the QB a running lane.
@@pinflan yeah seems like that power option they ran usually starts with a fake to the fullback, and sometimes they’d run a fullback trap on the same action, so people I think seem to confuse that with a triple option I will say I think that power option is the play that I most associate with those crazy 90s Nebraska teams even if it was only one part of their overall formula
I remember in NCAA12, I had this option sweep play that would literally freeze the linebackers and cornerbacks in place. I cheesed through almost the entire season😂
This is wild, 6 days ago i started watching jon bois videos for the first time in 2 years, then 3 days ago i started playing NCAA 14 again, now yall made a fumble dimension with it, the first of its kind i think
Can you try a Fumble Dimension where you play as Iowa and refuse to play offense? Punt or kick a field goal on first down every play and see how far you can take the team solely on defense
The whole time they were listing option teams, and not saying West Virginia. Ryan showing disbelief in himself for forgetting WVU makes me feel so validated.
Love this video. One time I did a UTSA dynasty and we were in the SEC championship game with our starting safety as the starting qb because both our starter and backup were hurt going into the game and the 3rd string got hurt at halftime. So we played the second half with our safety and just ran the option for two quarters. It was a glorious nail biter victory
19:45 I love how I'm just irrationally internally screaming "GO!!! GO, GO GO!! SNAP THE BALL ALREADY, THE CLOCK'S RUNNING!!" at a virtual college football team. Between that and the "Hail Moron" clones from just this past week, I really don't know what to make of this game's AI, and I'm thankful for that :P Another successful trip into The Fumble Dimension.
Running triple options during your quarterback career was even easier: you could burn meter to slow the game down and make the right read every single time
I know they're not the most well known team but New Mexico ran the Triple Option for much of the 2010's too. They would have been great to see in the tournament as one of the few teams that actually ran the offense already
I literally clicked on this video because of the title...and had never seen one of your videos before, so I didn't know what to expect. I wanted to say that your video was exceptionally well done! Fantastic job of editing and storytelling. Fantastic commentary. I loved the fact you had an expert to provide perspective and to explain things we were unaware of. I even was rooting for Miami after the first round, so your storytelling is engaging. I was sad "my team" didn't win it all! ;) Very well done! Bravo!
There's something about Kofie doing his fake cheery announcer voiceover while on screen he's staring silent and disappointed at what is happening that is just perfect.
As much as the torture of golf courses and hitting three thousand opposing batters can make me laugh, I also appreciate when you make content that you're just outright having fun with, and this sure seems like that. Very nice. :)
The Flacco Dimension - play a recent copy of Madden and play as the ravens. Add flacco back to the roster and have the exact same play book and offense style that they've used with Lamar Jackson.
My favorite formation/playbook in this game was the spread option. And yes, 90% of the time the outside defender bites and goes for the running back so you’re forced to run with the quarterback. The AI defense just seems to forget about the possibility of the quarterback running the ball everytime.
What's funny to me is that they came up with that name before doing their first football episode-ruining the NBA was their first. I guess they just couldn't come up with a good enough non-football name, or they used Jon's Breaking Madden series as a springboard.
When you started talking about teams ill-suited to run the option, I got excited and started shouting “Draft Iowa!” at my screen, but alas, it must have been an idea too beautiful to exist in real life.
I will say the indicators for who to read are crucial. It changes depending on alignment but in real football the qb always knows pre snap who the read is
Here's a fumble dimension idea: In Bois' video on sad punts, he mentions an economics paper about when it's worth it to go for it an 4th and yardage given a certain field position. If it's possible, what if you simmed games between teams that did and did not follow this paper as absolute gospel?
Chargers vs. Steelers, got it. All jokes aside, this is a phenomenal idea, I'm just not sure how it would work without having to tell the team to go for it/punt/kick a field goal every time a fourth down came up.
This is the most realistic video game sim I’ve ever seen. Oklahoma with the Belldozer (aka Matt Holmes) would’ve been an unstoppable force in an option-only real world CFB universe.
When I think “option” team, I think of Georgia Southern Obviously biased as I’m a student here, but excluding this year, the triple option has been our bread and butter. See: Georgia Southern v Florida 2013
As a Georgia Tech alumni from the years of the triple option, the fact they we are now getting top billing in the fumble dimension is both painful and hilarious. Trust me it felt like being in the fumble dimension to watch it live.
Honestly don't know why more college coaches don't focus their option defense on trying to make the QB decide to keep the ball so you get more opportunities to hit him and put him out of the game.
The current option philosophy means coaches WANT thier QB to run the ball, because thier best athlete/football player is there. The 2nd best athlete is the B Back/FB.
Back when North Dakota State was crushing Division II football, they ran the "Veer" offense, which they had down to a science. It was so damn exciting, the QB would toss it right at the last possible second.
Guy named Ray Narvayez Jr does something similar to this yearly but its a tournament in the mascot game mode. The AI in this game is a masterclass in bugging out for 35 seconds, throwing 7 interceptions in a game, and, as we all saw, pitching the ball to no one on option plays.
I'm never going to forget my Gators' loss to Georgia Southern's triple option in 2013. It was Will Muschamp's most embarrassing loss and one of Florida's most embarrassing losses ever.
It might be a "garbage in, garbage out" kinda deal, but I'm less afraid of a looming AI apocalypse watching you thoughtfully yet negligently abusing gimpy little versions of it. Alternatively, Kofie & Jon will be cast into the 9th circle of AI e-Hell. /hail AI Overlord
A bit surprised that cover athlete Denard Robinson wasn’t included in this tournament given how dynamic of a runner he was back in the day, but still a banger of a video.
REAL LIFE QBs and RBs for Each Team in the tourney: *= Made an NFL Roster at some point Texas A&M: QB Johnny Manziel* QB2 Matt Joeckel (Luke Joeckel’s Brother) RB1 Ben Malena* RB2 Tra Carson* RB3 Trey Williams* Alabama: QB AJ McCarron* QB2 Blake Sims* (Future NFL RB) RB1 TJ Yeldon* RB2 Kenyon Drake* RB3 Derrick Henry* Auburn: QB1 Nick Marshall* (Future NFL DB) QB2 Jeremy Johnson QB3 Kiehl Frazier RB1 Tre Mason* RB2 Cameron Artis-Payne* RB3 Corey Grant* Nebraska: QB Taylor “T-Magic” Armstrong QB2 Tommy Armstrong Jr. RB1 Ameer Abdullah* RB2 Imani Cross FB Andy Janovich* Oklahoma: QB Blake Bell* (Future NFL TE) RB1 Brennan Clay RB2 Damien Williams* RB3 Roy Finch Nevada: QB Cody Fajardo RB1 Kendall Brock RB2 Chris Solomon RB3 Don Jackson* Oregon: QB Marcus Mariota* QB2 Jeff Lockie RB1 Byron Marshall* RB2 Thomas Tyner RB3 De’Anthony Thomas* Texas: QB Chase McCoy QB2 Devin Ash QB3 Tyrone Swoopes* (Future NFL TE) RB1 Malcolm Brown* RB2 Jonathan Gray RB3 Joe Bergeron Georgia Tech: QB Vlad Lee QB2 Justin Thomas RB1 David Sims RB2 Robert Godhigh RB3 Zach Laskey K Harrison Butker* Missouri: QB James Franklin QB2 Maty Mauk RB1 Henry Josey* RB2 Marcus Murphy* RB3 Russell Hansbrough* Clemson: QB Tajh Boyd* QB2 Cole Stoudt RB1 Rodrick McDowell RB2 D.J. Howard RB3 Zac Brooks Army: QB Angel Santiago QB2 Kelvin White RB1 Terry Baggett RB2 Larry Dixon RB3 Trenton Turrentine Kansas State: QB Jake Waters QB2 Daniel Sams RB1 John Hubert RB2 Robert Rose RB3 Demarcus Robinson (Not that one) Navy: QB Keenan Reynolds* (Future NFL WR) QB2 John Hendrick RB1 Chris Swain RB2 Darius Slaten RB3 Geoffrey Whiteside West Virginia: QB Paul Millard QB2 Ford Childress RB1 Charles Sims* RB2 Dreamius Smith* RB3 Wendell Smallwood* Miami (FL): QB Stephen Morris* QB2 Ryan Williams QB3 Gray Crow RB1 Duke Johnson Jr.* RB2 Dallas Crawford RB3 Gus Edwards*
11:00 so this is a thing I've noticed NCAA 14 do a lot. The game really shows its age because when running the option, the defender tends to go for the better ball carrier (player with better ball carrying vision/other RB stats) a majority of the time. This leads to the QB keeping the ball a LOT. This doesn't show up when simulating the game, but when playing/watching the game it happens. NCAA 14 is kinda complex though, like if you are doing QB runs all the time when playing normally you can see the defense change to have 1 (or if you're doing it a lot) even 2 QB spys on you, it might not do this as well against the option, you might see less of the QB keeping the ball as time goes on but the defender will still pick the RB a LOT.
im not a football fan so i didnt know what option play meant going into this video. thought it would be fun to consider why it works for football, and why it doesnt for hockey, which i am far more familiar with. the touchdown line is like the entire width of the field. hockey goal lines are a fraction of the width of the rink, and defended by a dedicated player. so an attacking player wants to go down the middle, where the goal is- so the defender will take the option that covers the middle. if the attacking player advances off the the side, so be it. not all territory gained in hockey is created equal- there are qualitative differences, whereas one compares gains in territory for football quantitatively- in yards. perhaps a better comparison is an odd man rush, 2 on 1, 3 on 2, etc. technically, the goalie "evens things up" so the defensive strategy here is to let the goalie face down the shooter. ooh wait an even better comparison are no skating defender scenarios, where the goalie is left alone against multiple attacking players: the goalie is going to make a choice, and they're going to be wrong. (of course, i have seen teams miss that shot lmao) this is the closest thing hockey has to option plays, and they are incredibly rare- this isnt a play you plan for, this only happens if the defending team has really screwed up. tldr for football, there is no difference between option A advancing the ball toward goal, or option B. but in hockey, there is always a "best option", which will typically be covered.
I remember doing a dynasty in NCAA 14 with some friends and I used Maryland with the Air Force playbook. They had a FB that was pretty good, which made a lot of the triple option stuff pretty viable. Plus if I ever got down a couple scores, the Air Force playbook had enough shotgun pass plays to let me get it to Stefon Diggs. It was a lot of fun.
Do you need a quaterback, that is fast, to run the Option? Well, let's make a fumble dimension, where Tom Brady only runs these types of plays for an entire season.
You should've added Akron to the tournament. It would've been funny as hell, as well as interesting to see how a bad team would stack up in a tournament that restricts you like this
FUMBLE DIMENSION
Fumble dimensionnnnnn!
FUMBLE DIMENSION
(Thank you, Kofie!)
FUMBLE DIMENSION!!!!
FUMBLED A MENTION
FUMBLE DIMENSION
I’ve never heard kofie read a fumble dimension script where his energy wasn’t beaten to death by the assignment before he could say anything.
This is hilariously and sadly true lol
22:00 Kofie spoke the Raiders/Pats lateral disaster into existence
Only thing missing was having it taken back for a TD 😂
If only this video came out 2 days sooner, Jakobi may have had time to watch it to learn the dangers of laterals in a tie game!
i don’t get it
A note on Option teams: In the 1970's, UCLA was an Option team running out of the Wishbone. They used several quarterbacks but one of them is... Mark Harmon, of NCIS fame.
Is one of Gibbs rules "You must run the option?"
Speaking of the 70s, Notre Dame won a national title running the Wing-T with future NFL HC and current Packers QB Coach Tom Clements
Mark Harmon’s father was 1940 Heisman Trophy winner Tom Harmon (Michigan), who went to war, then played a couple years for the LA Rams before becoming a broadcaster. Tom was UCLA’s play-by-play man on KTLA in the 60s and 70s, so he called his son’s games. It runs in the family.
Mark Harmon also set the record for most passing yards in the Rose Bowl on that team
I ran the triple option from a wishbone set in high school, so this was pretty fun to watch. It was very effective in high school, but at higher levels the athleticism makes it really tough to execute. Imagine having Miles Garrett flying off the ball and you have to key read him in like 0.3 seconds before your mega million dollar franchise quarter back literally dies.
Yeah, the main reason it's never run at the elite levels is because defenders are too fast and too good at their reads for it to work. It's all about forcing defenders to make bad or late decisions, and elite level defenders simply won't do that.
IMO it's less the athleticism (both sides of the ball get more at higher levels of play), and more the sophistication of the athletes. In high school, we spent a tremendous amount of time on one guy to translate the playcall into "which direction do I go". There were only 4 possible things he could do. He still got that wrong sometimes weeks later. Players like that should *not* be the one responsible for split-second decision making to defend option plays...
In the NFL, players have numerous responsibilities depending on not only coverage called, but those also change depending on what the offense does. The strength/speed pushes human ability, but the technique is sophisticated too, even in oline vs dline exchanges where it's just one guy trying to beat the other that remains true. These players have a *much* easier time wrapping their heads around concepts like "who has the pitch man" and doing scrape exchanges vs read options. It's why modern option calls at the pro level have gone out of their way to be less predictable...for who the read man will be, mixing in pass options, and altering how the blocking gets done. Defenses then adjust. It (usually) becomes pretty easy for teams with pros to crush play calls they know are coming.
In high school? On many teams, half of those guys still won't know what's coming even if the opposing offense has only 10-20 plays and they watched film on it, lol. Doesn't take many blown assignments to score, so the option can work great if the other side can't just blow your linemen backwards and make up the numbers problem created by option that way.
As a guard in wishbone.. nothing was more fun than knowing its behind you chipping down then charging at the middle linebacker/saftey
Hahahaaa. Great analysis and can you work Sundays after I fire Tony Romo from cbs?
I always remember dynasty mode where 10 years in, Army and Georgia Tech were always the nation's powerhouses
That happened to me too. Every damn year I had to play one of them in the BCS
GT kinda was a powerhouse in the early 2010s they definitely were in the 00s
@@misternibbles7426 GT was not a powerhouse in real life in the 2000s lmao
Idk…They won 7 games five times in six years. They were the model of stability
@@tytompkins3992 they had Calvin Johnson
The option play is the final remaining remnant of the game that inspired American football, Rugby Union, which is entirely about drawing in defenders and decision making
Well there is also the similar shaped ball and the whole 'tackling' thing, but yea, I feel ya.
@@barryallen871 i meant regarding strategy and such, because apart from that they are wholly distinct from one another and it’s always so annoying when I try to talk about rugby with someone here and they’re like “well it’s just football without the pads”
American football is more closely related to rugby league, though.
@@fishflake1209 they originated around similar times for different reasons, American football as we know it and rugby league were created in the mid 1890’s, both of which breaking off from rugby Union.
I've always believed that if an offense drilled some rugby plays and got guys to focus on making short and lateral passes they could have some absolutely lethal plays.
Defences just wouldn't know how to cover offloads and passes out of tackles rugby style.
Kofie out here making his broadcasting audition and I’m all here for it
"Army decided to try the Offensive Line QB Sneak which is illegal and something that the Army would never do."
[KOFIE stares hard at the camera for one hour]
Is this in reference to something? I don't watch college football so I wouldn't know.
@@patrickdalton361 The US army is known for doing things that definitely arent illegal
@@patrickdalton361 It's a reference to war crimes.
This Andre Sims guy seems like he’ll have a great career in the NFL!
I know right the Browns should draft him😅
His nickname should be Andre Football
Idk he’s kind of giving me CFL vibes
I hav news 4 u. (!!!!)
Wasn't those rosters meant to be non copyright players resembling real life one's?
13:30, someone get that ref a scholarship, his shuttle time is crazy!
😭😭BRO I DIDNT SEE THAT 😂
the ref at 27:12 too
In an interview, Tom Osborne (the legendary head coach of Nebraska from the late '70's to the late '90's) said that Nebraska is mischaracterized as an "option team" because NU only ran the option about 20% of the time. Nebraska under Osborne was a very diverse running team of which the option was only one "option". ; )
Nebraska also rarely ran true triple option plays. It was almost always decided beforehand whether they would hand the ball off to the fullback.
@@pinflan I absolutely agree with you. I have rarely, if ever seen NU run a triple option.
That's how the triple option is mostly used by the military academies these days. Since at least the early 2010s.
It's either a Designed QB Run. Or it's a FB Dive 60% of the time.
The thing about running the option out of the flex bone is that it's much easier for the b and a back to get out and engage the 2nd level defenders to give the QB a running lane.
@@pinflan yeah seems like that power option they ran usually starts with a fake to the fullback, and sometimes they’d run a fullback trap on the same action, so people I think seem to confuse that with a triple option
I will say I think that power option is the play that I most associate with those crazy 90s Nebraska teams even if it was only one part of their overall formula
Unfortunately, how history remembers things and how things happened are rarely congruent.
I remember in NCAA12, I had this option sweep play that would literally freeze the linebackers and cornerbacks in place. I cheesed through almost the entire season😂
This is wild, 6 days ago i started watching jon bois videos for the first time in 2 years, then 3 days ago i started playing NCAA 14 again, now yall made a fumble dimension with it, the first of its kind i think
Can you try a Fumble Dimension where you play as Iowa and refuse to play offense? Punt or kick a field goal on first down every play and see how far you can take the team solely on defense
Hawkize does a whole no offense dynasty and it’s super impressive, I think he uses Tulane
17:25 Glad to see the "Center Draw" glitch play show up here
The whole time they were listing option teams, and not saying West Virginia. Ryan showing disbelief in himself for forgetting WVU makes me feel so validated.
Love this video. One time I did a UTSA dynasty and we were in the SEC championship game with our starting safety as the starting qb because both our starter and backup were hurt going into the game and the 3rd string got hurt at halftime. So we played the second half with our safety and just ran the option for two quarters. It was a glorious nail biter victory
19:45 I love how I'm just irrationally internally screaming "GO!!! GO, GO GO!! SNAP THE BALL ALREADY, THE CLOCK'S RUNNING!!" at a virtual college football team.
Between that and the "Hail Moron" clones from just this past week, I really don't know what to make of this game's AI, and I'm thankful for that :P Another successful trip into The Fumble Dimension.
Kofie’s commentating is so good and enthusiastic frankly didn’t expect that as I thought he shares similar vibe as Jon
27:12 The ref outpacing the players while BACKPEDALING. Dear God, I love this game
Running triple options during your quarterback career was even easier: you could burn meter to slow the game down and make the right read every single time
I used this same trick in The Show for fielding.
First day sick with covid, needed this video real bad. Thank you Kofie and everyone behind the scenes for keeping me sane for 30 minutes
Get well soon!
Hope youre feeling better!!
I know they're not the most well known team but New Mexico ran the Triple Option for much of the 2010's too. They would have been great to see in the tournament as one of the few teams that actually ran the offense already
That commentary was golden.
Ryan 100% intended to mention Joe Flacco in this.
My favorite feature of the option play is the chance for an intercepted lateral. The defender usually has nothing but turf after he catches the ball.
Combining my love of NCAA 14 and Fumble Dimension is something I’ve been waiting for. Thankful it’s here.
12 is better
The offensive line sneak play was hilarious… how did that even happen 🤣🤣
I literally clicked on this video because of the title...and had never seen one of your videos before, so I didn't know what to expect. I wanted to say that your video was exceptionally well done! Fantastic job of editing and storytelling. Fantastic commentary. I loved the fact you had an expert to provide perspective and to explain things we were unaware of. I even was rooting for Miami after the first round, so your storytelling is engaging. I was sad "my team" didn't win it all! ;) Very well done! Bravo!
congrats to texas a&m on inventing the rpo in the fumble dimension
I love option football - when done well, there's something beautiful about it.
Might seriously be the best thing that's happened to OU football in 2022.
Must not follow recruiting
I like how the entire time Kofie is watching A&M is spent yelling “WHAT” which is very true to Manziel
Gotta be honest I was hoping that the tournament would involve a member of the secret base staff controlling each team
“The wildcats advance.” Made laugh way harder than I have in a while. Thank you
There's something about Kofie doing his fake cheery announcer voiceover while on screen he's staring silent and disappointed at what is happening that is just perfect.
As much as the torture of golf courses and hitting three thousand opposing batters can make me laugh, I also appreciate when you make content that you're just outright having fun with, and this sure seems like that. Very nice. :)
I love how you phrased it as, "The torture of golf courses," instead of torture golf courses.
10 seconds of awkward silence later- “The wildcats advance” 😂
The absolute joy I feel whenever there's a new fumble dimension🔥 Thank you Kofie
Thanks for putting the Ags in, this was way more fun than watching real college football this year lol
The Flacco Dimension - play a recent copy of Madden and play as the ravens. Add flacco back to the roster and have the exact same play book and offense style that they've used with Lamar Jackson.
Dang it's crazy you guys were able to implement my high school varsity coaches playbook into this video! Good work 😂🤦
Air Force not being in here is astounding…
My favorite formation/playbook in this game was the spread option. And yes, 90% of the time the outside defender bites and goes for the running back so you’re forced to run with the quarterback. The AI defense just seems to forget about the possibility of the quarterback running the ball everytime.
really putting the "fumble" in "fumble dimension" with this one
What's funny to me is that they came up with that name before doing their first football episode-ruining the NBA was their first. I guess they just couldn't come up with a good enough non-football name, or they used Jon's Breaking Madden series as a springboard.
i still run the spread option playbook in ncaa 14 to this day. that offense is absolutely OP and fun as hell
17:24 the center really just picked up the ball and started running with it lol
in this dimension 'Andre Sims' would go on to have a great career in the CFL.
When you started talking about teams ill-suited to run the option, I got excited and started shouting “Draft Iowa!” at my screen, but alas, it must have been an idea too beautiful to exist in real life.
You guys seem to be having so much fun in this game, I'm really glad. Fumble dimension is most fun when everyone is having fun :)
I will say the indicators for who to read are crucial. It changes depending on alignment but in real football the qb always knows pre snap who the read is
Here's a fumble dimension idea: In Bois' video on sad punts, he mentions an economics paper about when it's worth it to go for it an 4th and yardage given a certain field position. If it's possible, what if you simmed games between teams that did and did not follow this paper as absolute gospel?
Chargers vs. Steelers, got it. All jokes aside, this is a phenomenal idea, I'm just not sure how it would work without having to tell the team to go for it/punt/kick a field goal every time a fourth down came up.
This is the most realistic video game sim I’ve ever seen. Oklahoma with the Belldozer (aka Matt Holmes) would’ve been an unstoppable force in an option-only real world CFB universe.
Kofie’s live recapping and the editing in general has gotten so great man
Kofie seems like a top ten TH-camr who would be cool to chill with
Finally a fumble dimension that involves a lot of fumbles!
The option is always what makes college football special to me, thank you☺️
Mixed up Army and Air Force for modern option teams. Army has actually been quite pass heavy in recent years
When I think “option” team, I think of Georgia Southern
Obviously biased as I’m a student here, but excluding this year, the triple option has been our bread and butter.
See: Georgia Southern v Florida 2013
I’ve never heard of Georgia Southern
That probably because they run the option
RIP the Outback Bowl.
Pour out some Awesome Blossom sauce for Nanni’s costume.
As a Georgia Tech alumni from the years of the triple option, the fact they we are now getting top billing in the fumble dimension is both painful and hilarious. Trust me it felt like being in the fumble dimension to watch it live.
Honestly don't know why more college coaches don't focus their option defense on trying to make the QB decide to keep the ball so you get more opportunities to hit him and put him out of the game.
The current option philosophy means coaches WANT thier QB to run the ball, because thier best athlete/football player is there. The 2nd best athlete is the B Back/FB.
@@castleford2591 yeah, but maybe 15 times. Nobody wants their qb risking 30+ hits a game.
The fumble we all needed. Thank you gentlemen...y'all are the BEST!!!
Me: I really wish he'd put Nevada on here. It'd be cool to see my college in a Secret Base video.
Kofie: Your wish is my command.
Back when North Dakota State was crushing Division II football, they ran the "Veer" offense, which they had down to a science.
It was so damn exciting, the QB would toss it right at the last possible second.
Guy named Ray Narvayez Jr does something similar to this yearly but its a tournament in the mascot game mode. The AI in this game is a masterclass in bugging out for 35 seconds, throwing 7 interceptions in a game, and, as we all saw, pitching the ball to no one on option plays.
Oh my god, as a Fumble Dimension/Paul Johnson fanboy, this is a very big day for me
I'm never going to forget my Gators' loss to Georgia Southern's triple option in 2013. It was Will Muschamp's most embarrassing loss and one of Florida's most embarrassing losses ever.
That Florida team was bad though to be fair, it wasn't only bad coaching but felt like half the team got injured.
While you have Ryan there, you should ask him when Card Show is coming back
It might be a "garbage in, garbage out" kinda deal, but I'm less afraid of a looming AI apocalypse watching you thoughtfully yet negligently abusing gimpy little versions of it.
Alternatively, Kofie & Jon will be cast into the 9th circle of AI e-Hell.
/hail AI Overlord
As a GT alum, this was both fun and harrowing! Literally throwing the game away at the end was too accurate a simulation.
Joe Flacco catching strays outta nowhere had me in tears lol
A bit surprised that cover athlete Denard Robinson wasn’t included in this tournament given how dynamic of a runner he was back in the day, but still a banger of a video.
didn’t know jon stewart had a side gig as a college football athlete
Redemption for the Belldozer!
I see FUMBLE DIMENSION...I click no questions ask. I just want to witness greatness in a video.
My guy totally left Air Force out... some expert.
REAL LIFE QBs and RBs for Each Team in the tourney:
*= Made an NFL Roster at some point
Texas A&M:
QB Johnny Manziel*
QB2 Matt Joeckel (Luke Joeckel’s Brother)
RB1 Ben Malena*
RB2 Tra Carson*
RB3 Trey Williams*
Alabama:
QB AJ McCarron*
QB2 Blake Sims* (Future NFL RB)
RB1 TJ Yeldon*
RB2 Kenyon Drake*
RB3 Derrick Henry*
Auburn:
QB1 Nick Marshall* (Future NFL DB)
QB2 Jeremy Johnson
QB3 Kiehl Frazier
RB1 Tre Mason*
RB2 Cameron Artis-Payne*
RB3 Corey Grant*
Nebraska:
QB Taylor “T-Magic” Armstrong
QB2 Tommy Armstrong Jr.
RB1 Ameer Abdullah*
RB2 Imani Cross
FB Andy Janovich*
Oklahoma:
QB Blake Bell* (Future NFL TE)
RB1 Brennan Clay
RB2 Damien Williams*
RB3 Roy Finch
Nevada:
QB Cody Fajardo
RB1 Kendall Brock
RB2 Chris Solomon
RB3 Don Jackson*
Oregon:
QB Marcus Mariota*
QB2 Jeff Lockie
RB1 Byron Marshall*
RB2 Thomas Tyner
RB3 De’Anthony Thomas*
Texas:
QB Chase McCoy
QB2 Devin Ash
QB3 Tyrone Swoopes* (Future NFL TE)
RB1 Malcolm Brown*
RB2 Jonathan Gray
RB3 Joe Bergeron
Georgia Tech:
QB Vlad Lee
QB2 Justin Thomas
RB1 David Sims
RB2 Robert Godhigh
RB3 Zach Laskey
K Harrison Butker*
Missouri:
QB James Franklin
QB2 Maty Mauk
RB1 Henry Josey*
RB2 Marcus Murphy*
RB3 Russell Hansbrough*
Clemson:
QB Tajh Boyd*
QB2 Cole Stoudt
RB1 Rodrick McDowell
RB2 D.J. Howard
RB3 Zac Brooks
Army:
QB Angel Santiago
QB2 Kelvin White
RB1 Terry Baggett
RB2 Larry Dixon
RB3 Trenton Turrentine
Kansas State:
QB Jake Waters
QB2 Daniel Sams
RB1 John Hubert
RB2 Robert Rose
RB3 Demarcus Robinson (Not that one)
Navy:
QB Keenan Reynolds* (Future NFL WR)
QB2 John Hendrick
RB1 Chris Swain
RB2 Darius Slaten
RB3 Geoffrey Whiteside
West Virginia:
QB Paul Millard
QB2 Ford Childress
RB1 Charles Sims*
RB2 Dreamius Smith*
RB3 Wendell Smallwood*
Miami (FL):
QB Stephen Morris*
QB2 Ryan Williams
QB3 Gray Crow
RB1 Duke Johnson Jr.*
RB2 Dallas Crawford
RB3 Gus Edwards*
22:52 something about the phrase "brick a field goal" just completely blindsided me
0:26 Not 30 seconds in and we see...GA Tech! YES! It seems like they ran the option for the entire 70's.
-We made a college football tournament where teams only run the option.
Oh, so we're just playing NCAA 14 then?
11:00 so this is a thing I've noticed NCAA 14 do a lot. The game really shows its age because when running the option, the defender tends to go for the better ball carrier (player with better ball carrying vision/other RB stats) a majority of the time. This leads to the QB keeping the ball a LOT. This doesn't show up when simulating the game, but when playing/watching the game it happens. NCAA 14 is kinda complex though, like if you are doing QB runs all the time when playing normally you can see the defense change to have 1 (or if you're doing it a lot) even 2 QB spys on you, it might not do this as well against the option, you might see less of the QB keeping the ball as time goes on but the defender will still pick the RB a LOT.
I don't even watch college football and even I know that the Oregon Ducks choking is the most believable part of the video.
im not a football fan so i didnt know what option play meant going into this video. thought it would be fun to consider why it works for football, and why it doesnt for hockey, which i am far more familiar with.
the touchdown line is like the entire width of the field. hockey goal lines are a fraction of the width of the rink, and defended by a dedicated player. so an attacking player wants to go down the middle, where the goal is- so the defender will take the option that covers the middle. if the attacking player advances off the the side, so be it. not all territory gained in hockey is created equal- there are qualitative differences, whereas one compares gains in territory for football quantitatively- in yards.
perhaps a better comparison is an odd man rush, 2 on 1, 3 on 2, etc. technically, the goalie "evens things up" so the defensive strategy here is to let the goalie face down the shooter.
ooh wait an even better comparison are no skating defender scenarios, where the goalie is left alone against multiple attacking players: the goalie is going to make a choice, and they're going to be wrong. (of course, i have seen teams miss that shot lmao) this is the closest thing hockey has to option plays, and they are incredibly rare- this isnt a play you plan for, this only happens if the defending team has really screwed up.
tldr for football, there is no difference between option A advancing the ball toward goal, or option B. but in hockey, there is always a "best option", which will typically be covered.
I remember doing a dynasty in NCAA 14 with some friends and I used Maryland with the Air Force playbook. They had a FB that was pretty good, which made a lot of the triple option stuff pretty viable. Plus if I ever got down a couple scores, the Air Force playbook had enough shotgun pass plays to let me get it to Stefon Diggs. It was a lot of fun.
Do you need a quaterback, that is fast, to run the Option?
Well, let's make a fumble dimension, where Tom Brady only runs these types of plays for an entire season.
I loved running the option in this game.
I still do!
That pitch at 13:56 registered as a pass lol I’ve never had that type of situation while running option plays. That’s pretty cool
Bummed not to see Air Force with Army and Navy!
I was hoping the day would come when I would see an NCAA Football 14 Fumble Dimension. I couldn’t be happier that that day is here.
5:05 Anyone else notice he missed A&M and Alabama? 👀
You should've added Akron to the tournament. It would've been funny as hell, as well as interesting to see how a bad team would stack up in a tournament that restricts you like this
“I have a dream!”
“What’s your dream?”
“To have a dream!”
Ah yes, the Fumble Dimension crossover with the Shutdown Fullcast we all needed. True chaos!
It 100% is the worlds only college football podcast and SZD is a NFL podcast
Ready for the adventure that is entering the Fumble Dimension
21:10 To be fair, that is a typical Johnny Football play right there.
Every pitch fumble made me legitimately laugh
Matt Holmes is the true villain of tournament. And nobody stopped him.
Only college football thing worth watching, thanks man