@@psychopath1970 Yeah, they forget that they are obligated to like every piece of cinema that is released if they aren't themselves writers and directors.🙄
I want to do a rewrite of this where the t-shirt vendor is just some crackpot making up the story about the trap. Josh Hartnett's Butcher goes through all this trouble and the FBI was actually targeting some really dangerous dork who was stalking Lady Raven.
I’m not sure how he wrote a script where people go to a pop star they really want to see… and then all these people are walking around the stadium not watching the singer. Bizarre 😂
My biggest issues in the movie were clarified by the singer being his daughter. There was a lost of good moments in there, but I couldn't grasp why we were seeing so much of the concert or why the singer took on the role she did in the film.
Loved the first part of the movie. They kind of lost me at the second part. Other people in the audience seemed to give up on the movie at that point. Just started talking and laughing. My biggest complaint was that Lady Raven had such a savior complex. If she really cared about human life, she wouldn't have allowed her concert or fans to be used as a Trap for a dangerous psychopath. And made herself the hero by live-streaming herself in his house and getting her fans to find the victim. Literally put herself and his family in danger of getting killed by exposing him. Why not destroy his phone and call the police with her own phone? Then had the audacity to go hug the victim while her fans watched. What makes her think he wanted to be hugged by a stranger after everything he's been through? Just had to make the whole thing a show for her fans. I rest my case.
I swear some of the characters had ps2 video game lines, like the one lady backstage randomly telling Hartnetts character that the only people thay dont need to be security checked are raven and her group, literally out of no where. There was absolutely no reason to tell him that it seemed like a quest or something like each side chatacter was trying to help him get to the next level of escaping.
@@rocket9859hope so, always felt he was super talented , but typical Hollywood casting (make him the lovable , Mr Right, always the good guy) had an ok career until of late where he has been on a good streak . Hope Nolan keeps him on his recurring cast of actors like Murphy
Counterpoint: M. Night knowing he writes weird, unnatural dialogue and then making his protagonist a complete psychopath so it fits was a stroke of genius.
@@sammynewcomer2611There’s nothing else in the filmmaking of Shyamalan movies that warrant the interpretation that he’s doing it on purpose. Lanthimos movies are weird in almost every single way, from dialogue to plot to directing to music. Shyamalan makes standard thrillers meant to have a very wide appeal, and so there’s no reason to suggest that he’s been writing shit dialogue all these years because he’s some misunderstood auteur. He’s just a bad writer.
And he does that twice this year, he wanted to make his daughter famous and that's fine, every dads wants their daughter to be succesful too, just that, he really put them in a bad taste
Yeah, when you’re forcing people to listen to something, they’re definitely not going to like it. Well, unless it was Whitney Houston. But for mid pop music? Please!
@@buloimakes2835I thought there were too many stupid plot contrivances that just made no sense. At this point M Night has GOTTA know that what he’s writing is BAD, like REALLY BAD, but if this was a movie written by anyone else I feel like most people that would watch it would notice the incredibly shit writing more
The premise never made sense to me based on the trailers. 1.) They either know who he is and could just go to his house and get him or 2.) they don't and they'd never be able to pick him out of the crowd. If he walks out the door how would they even know he's the killer?
Haven't seen this movie but weird, stilted dialogue can be amazing when done right. David Lynch's entire body of work is basically a masterclass in uncanny dialogue and conversations that seem like dream-like approximations of human interaction. For me, it made something like Twin Peaks so effective and unsettling. And like Lynch's movies, the Silent Hill franchise is the same exact way, with strange pauses, flat affect, and circular dialogue that seems to almost fold in on itself to the point where the words themselves suddenly lose meaning. (A premise that the movie Pontypool uses brilliantly). Signs had some interesting dialogue, especially the scene with the military recruiter, and it felt super intentional. But nowadays, who knows?
The plot holes were astonishing. I mean he literally could have just walked out of the concert at any time. They literally had nothing on him. The only way he possibly gets caught is confessing.
*Spoilers below* . . . . . . . Because I kept expecting (hoping for) a twist other than what the trailer had already revealed, at some point I suspected the MOTHER to be the actual Butcher, holding hostages and live-streaming them to cooper to get him to spend some quality time with his daughter. Like, Cooper (Hartnet) would have been a hostage this whole time, trying to save the man's life by escaping without being caught. Alas, no twist, only predictable turns.
This movie is actually the latest in his Unbreakable superhero universe and nobody even realises. Dude has the power of luck. Re-watch with this in mind. There are 20+ examples of luck that appear to the naked eye to be bad writing or plotholes but are actually brilliant.
And they are trying to Trap a Parent. I think you're onto something! EDIT: If we find out (not sure how we would) that he only reached out to her for this pun-y crap I'll walk away from all of M. Night's films, even the good ones like Unbreakable.
How did the cops just randomly become completely stupid at the end of the movie, they do this huge elaborate scheme at the venue with 1000s of cops and then when they find exacly where he is they bring 3 cars and LEAVE HIM ALONE in the back of the van. AND NO ONE CHECKED A SECOND TIME TO FIND THE GIANT METAL ROD. I just cant
Why didn't Lady Raven just scream at them in the hallway of the arena that he was The Butcher? They would've wrestled him down faster than he could've reached for the phone
It's like the CBS Dick Wolf FBI shows. Unless it's later in the episode, only two agents will go to confront a dangerous criminal or terrorist who will always find a way to escape.
Josh and the shirt vendor did great! But the movie lost all of its substance when it left the concert venue and made Raven a key character to the plot.
@@LebahG4ntengThe fact that they thought it was a good idea to trap a serial killer in an arena with tons of people is what made me laugh so hard at the trailer. I still want to see it 😂
@@Moo.1336 Idk if you've seen it yet but the plan is really dumb and the explanation for why they know he'll be there is also really really dumb. This whole movie ridiculous nonsense but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't thoroughly entertained
It's weird none of the reviewers have mentioned this point but it is clearly stated in the second half of the movie that the the concert was already announced and the FBI told the artist like just two weeks ago that the serial killer is going to be there. But for some reason everyone thinks that the concert was announced/created only to catch the serial killer. Weird
Saleka's songs had wayyyyyy too much screentime. I was sitting there like "So what does this have to do with the plot of the movie?" waiting for something crazy to happen but nothing ever did. Third act Josh Hartnett was great though.
I was also thinking that I felt like I've been seeing Josh in a lot of good roles lately. I've loved him back from his The Faculty, Black Hawk Down, Virgin Suicide days. I really hope we continue to see more of him & he keeps making interesting choices.
I get that he wants to make his daughter famous, I mean who doesn't? Every dad really wants their daughters to be successful too, I know I would if I have a kid, just that, he really put them in a bad taste twice this year
I love going down the line of reviewers of increasing blunt honesty. First is Stuckmann, which these days is opinionless bs. Next is Jeremy, which is high energy honesty. Then finally, Dan, the most detail oriented and honest of them all.
I feel like someone has watched De Palma's Snake Eyes without the potential 🤣. Also Hayley Mills in Tiger Bay - Jodie Foster-level child actor performance
Fun fact: I could only see a certain number of rated R movies when I was younger, and I chose Snake Eyes as one of them because I was hooked by the hype around the opening uncut shot. After my mom saw it, she said "Eh, you can have that one back."
Josh Hartnett was good in Operation Fortune too, although at a certain point the movie didn't seem to know what to do with his character, and that movie didn't do all that well either.
Guy Ritchie is also a director like Shyamalan who has a very distinct filmmaking style but doesn’t always translate to making good movies. When they hit they really hit, when they miss it wildly goes off the rails
I didn't think it was that bad. I enjoyed the first half of the movie taking place in the arena. Youre interested in how Cooper is going to get out and what he's learning along the way. I thought it kind of derailed after that with much more muddled pacing and like 4 different parts where the movie could've ended. Definitely "its okay" territory for me
02:21 #nepotism. 😂 But seriously, I guess it’s easier using his daughter and her songs than using an established artist and their music. No royalties to pay to a record company, the songs are doing double the work here being part of the film and the soundtrack plus works in their own right. But still, I kinda would’ve liked to have seen M Night approach someone like Taylor Swift or her tour mate Sabrina Carpenter and stage it around them instead! 😂
@@shanenolan085He actually finances his own movie independently, at least since The Visit. That's why this movie got a interim agreement to filmed the movie during last year's actor's strike. And that includes his daughter's first movie which was also distributed by Warner Bros but was self financed by his daddy independently
When I first saw the trailer for this movie I was SO HYPED! It was my exact vibe and interest. But the second I saw M Nights name included I immediately was like “oh…never mind then..”
There is a lengthy conversation in the film about the carpets in his house and how his wife is worried about the state of the carpets, what with their important visitor and all. Once inside, we see the house has hardwood floors. To me, this sums up the whole film. Nothing makes sense, continuity doesn't matter, and in no world would all the police in the country descend on a concert, tell every staff member all the privileged details, and "question all the males" because they don't even have a description. There are no carpets.
i, for one, was very thrilled / filled with suspense. i think the most important dynamic in this movie is that of the lives the protagonist lives; one as a family man, the other as a serial killer. and how those two lives mix in a unsettling fashion.
It’s a comedy. It’s a satirical take on the genre. Hartnett is playing Norman Bates. A normal guy with mommy issues. Plus Hayley Mills from The Parent Trap, sets the trap for the parent. Get it? Our crowd was laughing at the out there dialogue. 250 people in Burbank had a ball.
It's weird none of the reviewers have mentioned this point but it is clearly stated in the second half of the movie that the the concert was already announced and the FBI told the artist like just two weeks ago that the serial killer is going to be there. But for some reason everyone thinks that the concert was announced/created only to catch the serial killer. Weird
THANK YOU!! I agree with every single point you made. I have been scratching my head reading some other reviews of this film. This was ridiculously bad.
Another M Night Shyamalan film: meaning don’t forget to bring along your 60-foot plot-armored crane to suspend the 300 metric tons of disbelief required to avoid seeing the gaping plot holes that riddle his movies. and make sure to bring along the dialogue ear filters too, that filter out all of the bonkers plot-exposure dialogue spewed by the cast. Then you might actually enjoy the movie.
Just got back from a screening and I mostly agree with you. The king of self sabotage continues his mad reign. I actually liked the first part and would have preferred the whole movie was contained to the arena. One thing I did appreciate was the authenticity of the show itself. Most concerts in narrative films are as alien to real experience as... well, as every other aspect of this movie is.
It was a pg-13 so you really can’t have super high expectations, yeah some stuff was a little odd but overall it had a good story and great acting by Hartnet
Sub’d on describing M. Night’s talents as a roll of the dice. Totally agree! I always look forward to his movies and keep my fingers crossed it won’t be crap. When it’s good it’s really good.
I wanted this to be good--Hartnett deserves a comeback and Hayley Mills is a welcome surprise but when the movie wasn't screened for critics I kinda knew what that meant and finding out that it's a vehicle for a pop star sorta clinches me not going. Thanks for the review!
Remember, Signs has a stupid plot. But it's directed very very well. I think that's why he listed Signs alongside Sixth Sense. It was an indicator of what was to come.
Shyamalan, a favorite writer, director, often gets lost in his films, aiming for a specific feel that doesn’t resonate with most. The poor acting in “Old” took me out of the movie, leaving me unsure if it was bad acting or Shyamalan’s intention. I haven’t seen Trapped yet, but it seems to have the same problem as every one of Shyamalan’s films since, “Split.” .
So far the best part of Trap seems to be the indirect tie-in with Saved By The Bell. Dan any chance we get a Saved By The Bell retrospective? Great review.
Shayamalan's ability to continue to get his movies funded despite not knowing how to make a movie is one of the great mysteries of the world to me. Is his father a billionaire or something? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. He is like a pilot who crashes EVERY time he attempts to land. Ground him!
The movie saying they are in Philadelphia, but the high rise buildings are clearly in Toronto was something I couldn't get over. There were many Canadian thing they didn't even bother to hide in some shots.
Saw it today. Agree with your take. Why oh why did he wrench the POV away from Cooper (Hartnett) and put it on Lady Raven (Saleka) in the crucial second act... other than to promote his daughter even further. Big miss - promising premise as you say, but one that's badly executed in the end.
It speaks volume that m night shyamalan said that this movie is the fastest script he has ever written, trap wrote 3.5 months (yes he did said that) The only saving grace is Josh Hartnett performance, and the movie turns into so bad it’s good (like old and the happenning)
Not great, but not terrible. Josh Hartnett and Allison Pill both had good performances. Both underrated. I felt anxious the whole movie which is the point of a thriller. Did not like that he was going to get away with it but it was creative to see how he got out of situations.
Totally right man, thank for having the integrity to say it. THIS IS A TOTAL NEPO PROJECT! The killer, the story all took a back seat and the rest put in the trunk so he could give his daughter a very expensive multimillion dollar Pony just like he did with his other daughter in The Watchers (with zero experience just given millions to Direct some nonsense they wrote up in a weekend 😂😂). I can believe so many reviewers are saying "oh just turn your brain off" IN A THRILLER-HORROR movie that's supposed to make you think. I'm actually surprised the "pop star" (M.Nights daughter) didn't turn up to be some 007 CIA secret agent (God knows they tried) her whole forced role and songs throughout the whole movie just drains the movie a lot as we already have to do a lot of suspension of disbelief with the killer and the we also have to do the same with NEPO BABY who can't really act, making this supposed really scary and seasoned killer look like a total idiot!!😂😂😂
The trailer gives it away that Josh Hartnett is the serial killer. Why? Wouldn't it have been better if that's kept a secret, revealed part way through film?
It's the premise of the movie, it's not a twist. In fact, the trailer actuallly frames it more as a reveal than the actual movie by putting the dialogue about the police being there to hunt for the serial killer before Hartnett looking on his phone. In the actual movie, this conversation happens a couple of minutes after Hartnett goes to the toilet to look at his victim, so the movie establishes first that Hartnett isn't who he pretends to be and then states 'Also, the feds at the concert are looking for him'. All of this happens in the first 10 or so minutes of the movie, so nothing in the trailer is a spoiler.
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Good thing that t shirt vendor gave him all the details needed to get the plot going lol.
Yep Wayne's World style.
So many critics who's done nothing themselves.
@@psychopath1970 Yeah, they forget that they are obligated to like every piece of cinema that is released if they aren't themselves writers and directors.🙄
I want to do a rewrite of this where the t-shirt vendor is just some crackpot making up the story about the trap. Josh Hartnett's Butcher goes through all this trouble and the FBI was actually targeting some really dangerous dork who was stalking Lady Raven.
@@BoringAngler That would have been a nice twist. I hear this movie has no M. Night twist.
I’m actually her uncle, her mother’s brother.
This is a real line of dialogue delivered by M. Night himself to Josh Hartnet’s character.
Oh, god. He makes a cameo again?!? Ugh.
To be fair, he could have been her FATHER's brother. So it was crucial for the film to include that clarifying detail.
So THAT'S what an uncle is 😮
The second sentence in the trailer told me the man still hasn't learned to write. "Okay, Dad." Why does she say "Dad"?
😂@@fangal12
You know it’s gonna be a good review when Dan makes that face 😂
I think I'm going to just start calling it the "Shyamalan face."
@@DanMurrellMovies LMAO
DAN THE MAN MURRELL! 😎
He should start doing that face for every single good review 😂
@@DanMurrellMoviesWhat a twist!
I’m not sure how he wrote a script where people go to a pop star they really want to see… and then all these people are walking around the stadium not watching the singer. Bizarre 😂
Sees Will Smith propping up the acting/music careers of his 2 children...
M. Night Shyamalan: Hold my chardonnay...
Hey, probably Shyalaman learnt that from Mr Smith when he was directing After Earth
😂😂😂
Theory: M. Night Shyamalan is secretly identical twins like in The Prestige, but one is talented and the other isn’t
What a twist!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
My biggest issues in the movie were clarified by the singer being his daughter. There was a lost of good moments in there, but I couldn't grasp why we were seeing so much of the concert or why the singer took on the role she did in the film.
Loved the first part of the movie. They kind of lost me at the second part. Other people in the audience seemed to give up on the movie at that point. Just started talking and laughing. My biggest complaint was that Lady Raven had such a savior complex. If she really cared about human life, she wouldn't have allowed her concert or fans to be used as a Trap for a dangerous psychopath. And made herself the hero by live-streaming herself in his house and getting her fans to find the victim. Literally put herself and his family in danger of getting killed by exposing him. Why not destroy his phone and call the police with her own phone? Then had the audacity to go hug the victim while her fans watched. What makes her think he wanted to be hugged by a stranger after everything he's been through? Just had to make the whole thing a show for her fans. I rest my case.
5:21: When I heard Hayley Mills, I was thinking, "*that* Hayley Mills?"
Imagine being 78 and getting a call from M Night - and actually bothering to join the cast. This will seal my legacy as a star!
It’s a parent trap!
I swear some of the characters had ps2 video game lines, like the one lady backstage randomly telling Hartnetts character that the only people thay dont need to be security checked are raven and her group, literally out of no where. There was absolutely no reason to tell him that it seemed like a quest or something like each side chatacter was trying to help him get to the next level of escaping.
Someone get Denis Villeneuve on the phone and tell him to give Josh Hartnett a role.
And Hayley Mills - quick. This must not be her last film.
@@pattheplanter If he gets another Dune they could EASILY be slipped into that myriad of characters!
@@Sharpe1502 I think Josh is now in Nolan’s rolodex of actors he constantly uses.
@@rocket9859hope so, always felt he was super talented , but typical Hollywood casting (make him the lovable , Mr Right, always the good guy) had an ok career until of late where he has been on a good streak . Hope Nolan keeps him on his recurring cast of actors like Murphy
I fear we may have lost Denis to the world of Dune. Much like Cameron and Avatar. We need them making more movies and yes, Hartnett is a great choice.
The highlight for me really was Josh Harnett. I don't think this movie is watchable without his performance.
How abt a movie where M Night, Tyler Perry and Zack Snyder are Trapped in a room filled with good writers..😂😂😂😂
And they are completely unaware of the fact for the entire 2 hours.
Add the guy who made the despicable Winnie The Pooh movies 😂
Somehow, Palpatine returned.
@@LebahG4nteng despicable me and Winnie the pooh? Now there's the crossover we're all asking for
😂😂😂.
Counterpoint: M. Night knowing he writes weird, unnatural dialogue and then making his protagonist a complete psychopath so it fits was a stroke of genius.
That only works if he wrote unnatural stilted dialogue for only the serial killer.
No one complains when Lanthimos writes dialogue that sounds nothing like how people talk - but people assume M Night isn’t doing this on purpose?
@@sammynewcomer2611There’s nothing else in the filmmaking of Shyamalan movies that warrant the interpretation that he’s doing it on purpose. Lanthimos movies are weird in almost every single way, from dialogue to plot to directing to music. Shyamalan makes standard thrillers meant to have a very wide appeal, and so there’s no reason to suggest that he’s been writing shit dialogue all these years because he’s some misunderstood auteur. He’s just a bad writer.
Too bad all his characters talk the same way so this analysis makes no sense lol.
@@alexmaverick6647 The twist is - everybody is a psychopathic serial killer.
"as if they have never had a human interaction before" --- THAT was awesome!
“Trap” is like a Tubi original movie.
DING, DING! We have a winner 😂
and shot on 35mm film.. what a waste!!! 😬
There was even a billboard with an ad for The Watchers in the background of the opening scene. So it really is an ad for two of his daughters.
I noticed it too.
we have entered the Shyamalan nepo baby era.
first the watchers and now this.
The t-shirt guy knowing everything made me laugh when I saw the trailer
Damnit, I was looking forward to this. Shyamalan did his daughter a disservice with the nepotism.
And he does that twice this year, he wanted to make his daughter famous and that's fine, every dads wants their daughter to be succesful too, just that, he really put them in a bad taste
This movie was good. I don’t know why people hate it. If this movie is made the way it is and has no Shyamalan in it they’ll give it a higher grade.
@@buloimakes2835m night can do his cameo shtick that’s whatever but leveraging all that plot on raven was a biiiig mistake. Damn it.
Yeah, when you’re forcing people to listen to something, they’re definitely not going to like it. Well, unless it was Whitney Houston. But for mid pop music? Please!
@@buloimakes2835I thought there were too many stupid plot contrivances that just made no sense. At this point M Night has GOTTA know that what he’s writing is BAD, like REALLY BAD, but if this was a movie written by anyone else I feel like most people that would watch it would notice the incredibly shit writing more
The premise never made sense to me based on the trailers. 1.) They either know who he is and could just go to his house and get him or 2.) they don't and they'd never be able to pick him out of the crowd. If he walks out the door how would they even know he's the killer?
It's even worse in the movie. It's so, so dumb.
Tbf they know about the tattoo on his arm so they can kinda identify him but don't know who he is or where he lives of course
Haven't seen this movie but weird, stilted dialogue can be amazing when done right. David Lynch's entire body of work is basically a masterclass in uncanny dialogue and conversations that seem like dream-like approximations of human interaction. For me, it made something like Twin Peaks so effective and unsettling.
And like Lynch's movies, the Silent Hill franchise is the same exact way, with strange pauses, flat affect, and circular dialogue that seems to almost fold in on itself to the point where the words themselves suddenly lose meaning. (A premise that the movie Pontypool uses brilliantly).
Signs had some interesting dialogue, especially the scene with the military recruiter, and it felt super intentional. But nowadays, who knows?
The final conversation between Cooper and his wife was great acting
The plot holes were astonishing. I mean he literally could have just walked out of the concert at any time. They literally had nothing on him. The only way he possibly gets caught is confessing.
He had the tattoo on his wrist which could get him caught.
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Because I kept expecting (hoping for) a twist other than what the trailer had already revealed, at some point I suspected
the MOTHER to be the actual Butcher, holding hostages and live-streaming them to cooper to get him to spend some quality time with his daughter.
Like, Cooper (Hartnet) would have been a hostage this whole time, trying to save the man's life by escaping without being caught.
Alas, no twist, only predictable turns.
This movie is actually the latest in his Unbreakable superhero universe and nobody even realises.
Dude has the power of luck.
Re-watch with this in mind.
There are 20+ examples of luck that appear to the naked eye to be bad writing or plotholes but are actually brilliant.
This makes so much sense.
thank you for this reframing, I struggled to not walk out, hoping for a decent twist
It's named Trap, Hayley Mills is from The Parent Trap, get it?
And they are trying to Trap a Parent. I think you're onto something! EDIT: If we find out (not sure how we would) that he only reached out to her for this pun-y crap I'll walk away from all of M. Night's films, even the good ones like Unbreakable.
How did the cops just randomly become completely stupid at the end of the movie, they do this huge elaborate scheme at the venue with 1000s of cops and then when they find exacly where he is they bring 3 cars and LEAVE HIM ALONE in the back of the van. AND NO ONE CHECKED A SECOND TIME TO FIND THE GIANT METAL ROD. I just cant
Why didn't Lady Raven just scream at them in the hallway of the arena that he was The Butcher? They would've wrestled him down faster than he could've reached for the phone
Because he needed to rip off The Silence of The Lambs.
It's like the CBS Dick Wolf FBI shows. Unless it's later in the episode, only two agents will go to confront a dangerous criminal or terrorist who will always find a way to escape.
It went to shit after he told raven who he was and then got worse as it went on from there.
I’m glad to hear Dan speak well of Josh Hartnett. I’ve always really liked the guy! I was beginning to think no one else did!
Josh and the shirt vendor did great! But the movie lost all of its substance when it left the concert venue and made Raven a key character to the plot.
The real trap is he tricked us into listening to he's daughter sing
True that! It’s kinda lame!
For what it’s worth she’s pretty good.
I knew it was probably gonna be a mess when I started noticing plot holes in the trailer 🤷🏼♂️
The police protocol is what concerns me the most 😂
@@LebahG4ntengThe fact that they thought it was a good idea to trap a serial killer in an arena with tons of people is what made me laugh so hard at the trailer. I still want to see it 😂
@@Moo.1336 Idk if you've seen it yet but the plan is really dumb and the explanation for why they know he'll be there is also really really dumb. This whole movie ridiculous nonsense but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't thoroughly entertained
It's weird none of the reviewers have mentioned this point but it is clearly stated in the second half of the movie that the the concert was already announced and the FBI told the artist like just two weeks ago that the serial killer is going to be there. But for some reason everyone thinks that the concert was announced/created only to catch the serial killer. Weird
"What a twist!"
- M. Night Shyamalan
The only twist was that I bought tickets to a concert I thought was actually a movie 😂
Saleka's songs had wayyyyyy too much screentime. I was sitting there like "So what does this have to do with the plot of the movie?" waiting for something crazy to happen but nothing ever did. Third act Josh Hartnett was great though.
Josh Hartnett would make a killer Batman or Hal Jordan. Maybe Nolan should give Hartnett another call!
Josh Hartnett’s been back a while with Penny Dreadful, Oppenheimer and that really amazing Black Mirror episode
Oh Lucy! Is another great performance of his
I was also thinking that I felt like I've been seeing Josh in a lot of good roles lately. I've loved him back from his The Faculty, Black Hawk Down, Virgin Suicide days. I really hope we continue to see more of him & he keeps making interesting choices.
He was in Oppenheimer for like 20 seconds
Your dad jokes, pun intros are top-notch.
Thank you Dan for being honest about his daughter stuff. I was wondering the same thing. You rock man!
I get that he wants to make his daughter famous, I mean who doesn't? Every dad really wants their daughters to be successful too, I know I would if I have a kid, just that, he really put them in a bad taste twice this year
How I never knew the trivia around Good Morning Miss Bliss is insane. I grew up on Saved By The Bell.
That alone was worth the watch
Thanks, Dan, for highlighting the career of Hayley Mills! I had forgotten about the Miss Bliss tv show. Good memories.
I love going down the line of reviewers of increasing blunt honesty. First is Stuckmann, which these days is opinionless bs. Next is Jeremy, which is high energy honesty. Then finally, Dan, the most detail oriented and honest of them all.
I would throw in Double Toasted as well. Their reviews are longer, but they're sincere to their own opinions, whether I agree with them or not.
John campea is honest but just often has terrible taste 😅
@@ZUIKMedia yeah they’re good actually. Idk why I always forget about Double Toasted.
Damn! That thumpnail makes me worried 😂😂😅
I like to think the Font he uses for his movies is a giveaway on whether it's gonna be good or not.
This is why I think OLD is a hidden gem within the surrealist comedy genre. That movie is so bizarre and hilarious
I agree, one of the more fun recent "so bad it's good"
Old is that crappy gold
Old was just bad. Hidden gem?
I couldn’t even last more than 20mins with the horrible horrible acting
I feel like someone has watched De Palma's Snake Eyes without the potential 🤣. Also Hayley Mills in Tiger Bay - Jodie Foster-level child actor performance
Fun fact: I could only see a certain number of rated R movies when I was younger, and I chose Snake Eyes as one of them because I was hooked by the hype around the opening uncut shot. After my mom saw it, she said "Eh, you can have that one back."
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@@DanMurrellMoviesTaylor swifts ability to use her fans to solve crimes was an interesting idea they should have used it more!
Josh Hartnett was good in Operation Fortune too, although at a certain point the movie didn't seem to know what to do with his character, and that movie didn't do all that well either.
Oh Lucy! (2017) is another great performance of his, it's one of his most highly praised movie on Rotten Tomatoes, so that's pretty cool
Guy Ritchie is also a director like Shyamalan who has a very distinct filmmaking style but doesn’t always translate to making good movies. When they hit they really hit, when they miss it wildly goes off the rails
I just got out of it personally i thought it rocked. It was so fun
That Dan sounds personally wounded by this movie should tell us everything we need to know
The review I was waiting for!
Why are they calling this Josh Hartnett’s comeback? He didn’t go anywhere. Hes been consistently working since his big break in the late 90’s.
I didn't think it was that bad. I enjoyed the first half of the movie taking place in the arena. Youre interested in how Cooper is going to get out and what he's learning along the way. I thought it kind of derailed after that with much more muddled pacing and like 4 different parts where the movie could've ended. Definitely "its okay" territory for me
M. Night has been funding his films with his own money. Maybe not having enough outside input gives him tunnel vision
02:21 #nepotism. 😂 But seriously, I guess it’s easier using his daughter and her songs than using an established artist and their music. No royalties to pay to a record company, the songs are doing double the work here being part of the film and the soundtrack plus works in their own right. But still, I kinda would’ve liked to have seen M Night approach someone like Taylor Swift or her tour mate Sabrina Carpenter and stage it around them instead! 😂
Josh Harnett is so fun to watch. He did what he could with the material he had. Played a psychopath really well!
It’s ok to say M Night S. Sucks.
No it's not.
I'm surprised Hollywood still finance and distribute his films... 😂😂😂
@@shanenolan085they don't really. He finances most of his modern films himself
@@shanenolan085He actually finances his own movie independently, at least since The Visit. That's why this movie got a interim agreement to filmed the movie during last year's actor's strike. And that includes his daughter's first movie which was also distributed by Warner Bros but was self financed by his daddy independently
@@isaacfarrell8136and when they hit, he keeps the 100 million 😮
imagine an m night script cowritten by tommy wiseau
Oscar worthy indeed 😂
When I first saw the trailer for this movie I was SO HYPED! It was my exact vibe and interest. But the second I saw M Nights name included I immediately was like “oh…never mind then..”
There is a lengthy conversation in the film about the carpets in his house and how his wife is worried about the state of the carpets, what with their important visitor and all. Once inside, we see the house has hardwood floors. To me, this sums up the whole film. Nothing makes sense, continuity doesn't matter, and in no world would all the police in the country descend on a concert, tell every staff member all the privileged details, and "question all the males" because they don't even have a description. There are no carpets.
i, for one, was very thrilled / filled with suspense. i think the most important dynamic in this movie is that of the lives the protagonist lives; one as a family man, the other as a serial killer. and how those two lives mix in a unsettling fashion.
It’s a comedy. It’s a satirical take on the genre. Hartnett is playing Norman Bates. A normal guy with mommy issues. Plus Hayley Mills from The Parent Trap, sets the trap for the parent. Get it? Our crowd was laughing at the out there dialogue. 250 people in Burbank had a ball.
I literally almost screamed when I saw Haley mills name on the screen! I was liked fuckin Pollyanna!?!
Dude just pulled out the double trap with that pop superstar being his daughter and that’s the scariest plot twist he’s ever done.
All of his kids seem to have stylized names like him.
It's weird none of the reviewers have mentioned this point but it is clearly stated in the second half of the movie that the the concert was already announced and the FBI told the artist like just two weeks ago that the serial killer is going to be there. But for some reason everyone thinks that the concert was announced/created only to catch the serial killer. Weird
Is her first name Toyota?
I was waiting for your review!!
Love the review, 7:04 is so accurate!!
THANK YOU!!
I agree with every single point you made. I have been scratching my head reading some other reviews of this film. This was ridiculously bad.
I think the concert is more inspired by Gaga. Watching the trailer I’ve never thought of Taylor swift
I was on the fence about this one, Dan. Thanks for saving me a few bucks.
Oh shoot that was ms. Bliss!!
Another M Night Shyamalan film: meaning don’t forget to bring along your 60-foot plot-armored crane to suspend the 300 metric tons of disbelief required to avoid seeing the gaping plot holes that riddle his movies. and make sure to bring along the dialogue ear filters too, that filter out all of the bonkers plot-exposure dialogue spewed by the cast. Then you might actually enjoy the movie.
Josh Hartnet should fly the lady in an Airwolf remake.
Just got back from a screening and I mostly agree with you. The king of self sabotage continues his mad reign. I actually liked the first part and would have preferred the whole movie was contained to the arena. One thing I did appreciate was the authenticity of the show itself. Most concerts in narrative films are as alien to real experience as... well, as every other aspect of this movie is.
It was a pg-13 so you really can’t have super high expectations, yeah some stuff was a little odd but overall it had a good story and great acting by Hartnet
Sub’d on describing M. Night’s talents as a roll of the dice. Totally agree! I always look forward to his movies and keep my fingers crossed it won’t be crap. When it’s good it’s really good.
I wanted this to be good--Hartnett deserves a comeback and Hayley Mills is a welcome surprise but when the movie wasn't screened for critics I kinda knew what that meant and finding out that it's a vehicle for a pop star sorta clinches me not going. Thanks for the review!
Ditto
Every third name in the credits had Shamalamadingdong in it
Haha yep!
Would highly recommend reading Hayley Mills's memoir for everyone just discovering her career!
Remember, Signs has a stupid plot. But it's directed very very well. I think that's why he listed Signs alongside Sixth Sense.
It was an indicator of what was to come.
really smart subtle jabs, dare i say, educated roasts of m night - you have a beautiful way with words mr murrell, ily
Shyamalan just does whatever the fuck he wants and doesn't give a shit. If it works, it's a bonus for him.... and i can respect that.
I listened to the whole Mando ad just to hear your preference in scent before purchase. Thank you, Dan
Shyamalan, a favorite writer, director, often gets lost in his films, aiming for a specific feel that doesn’t resonate with most. The poor acting in “Old” took me out of the movie, leaving me unsure if it was bad acting or Shyamalan’s intention. I haven’t seen Trapped yet, but it seems to have the same problem as every one of Shyamalan’s films since, “Split.”
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So far the best part of Trap seems to be the indirect tie-in with Saved By The Bell. Dan any chance we get a Saved By The Bell retrospective? Great review.
Shayamalan's ability to continue to get his movies funded despite not knowing how to make a movie is one of the great mysteries of the world to me. Is his father a billionaire or something? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. He is like a pilot who crashes EVERY time he attempts to land. Ground him!
Well his movies make money. He funded The Visit by himself and that and everything post that has done well financially.
It was basically a music video for his daughter.
The movie saying they are in Philadelphia, but the high rise buildings are clearly in Toronto was something I couldn't get over. There were many Canadian thing they didn't even bother to hide in some shots.
How Did This Get Made has been feasting off Shyamalan for over a decade. It looks like he’s serving up another plate.
Saw it today. Agree with your take. Why oh why did he wrench the POV away from Cooper (Hartnett) and put it on Lady Raven (Saleka) in the crucial second act... other than to promote his daughter even further. Big miss - promising premise as you say, but one that's badly executed in the end.
It speaks volume that m night shyamalan said that this movie is the fastest script he has ever written, trap wrote 3.5 months (yes he did said that)
The only saving grace is Josh Hartnett performance, and the movie turns into so bad it’s good (like old and the happenning)
Not great, but not terrible. Josh Hartnett and Allison Pill both had good performances. Both underrated. I felt anxious the whole movie which is the point of a thriller. Did not like that he was going to get away with it but it was creative to see how he got out of situations.
christopher nolan also doesn't understand how normal people talk in real life
The movie title was accurate on multiple levels
I guess I am most confused by the premise. Are we supposed to be rooting for the murderer? Or is the tension that he might escape?
He's simply a villain protagonist, not that unique. And just because someone is the main character doesn't mean you are supposed to root for them.
Geez Dan you were pretty harsh on this one can’t lie lol. This was so fun imo
It wasn't even that bad! And I've seen lady in the water! The main actor was great,
Hayley Mills knew how to spot a psychopath from her days dealing with Zack Morris
Totally right man, thank for having the integrity to say it. THIS IS A TOTAL NEPO PROJECT! The killer, the story all took a back seat and the rest put in the trunk so he could give his daughter a very expensive multimillion dollar Pony just like he did with his other daughter in The Watchers (with zero experience just given millions to Direct some nonsense they wrote up in a weekend 😂😂).
I can believe so many reviewers are saying "oh just turn your brain off" IN A THRILLER-HORROR movie that's supposed to make you think. I'm actually surprised the "pop star" (M.Nights daughter) didn't turn up to be some 007 CIA secret agent (God knows they tried) her whole forced role and songs throughout the whole movie just drains the movie a lot as we already have to do a lot of suspension of disbelief with the killer and the we also have to do the same with NEPO BABY who can't really act, making this supposed really scary and seasoned killer look like a total idiot!!😂😂😂
The trailer gives it away that Josh Hartnett is the serial killer. Why? Wouldn't it have been better if that's kept a secret, revealed part way through film?
It's the premise of the movie, it's not a twist. In fact, the trailer actuallly frames it more as a reveal than the actual movie by putting the dialogue about the police being there to hunt for the serial killer before Hartnett looking on his phone. In the actual movie, this conversation happens a couple of minutes after Hartnett goes to the toilet to look at his victim, so the movie establishes first that Hartnett isn't who he pretends to be and then states 'Also, the feds at the concert are looking for him'.
All of this happens in the first 10 or so minutes of the movie, so nothing in the trailer is a spoiler.