I broke my Aeropex model while in my pocket, so I was forced to upgrade and I got the Openrun Pro. I did notice a difference in sound quality, I mainly listen to podcasts while working(I'm a gardener/carpenter) and the improvements I've noticed are less distortions at higher volumes, the Aeropex felt like there were 2 blow flies on my ears, the Openrun pro will still distort at higher volumes but not as bad as the Aeropex. But the volume does not appear to go any higher. I ride my bike to and from work, in heavy loud traffic I struggle to hear the words of the podcast when the traffic is loud. I do notice a marginally better sound quality. Also the headphones feel more comfortable. I would wear both headphones all day and the Openrun Pro are definitely more comfortable long term. In summary I would not upgrade if I had the Aeropex, but if I was buying for the first time I would buy the Openrun Pro.
You could use the earplugs but that’s probably not a good idea in traffic. My reason to use them are. When I do long run i don’t feel like water collecting in my ear. And when I run alongside the roads I can hear the traffic coming
thank you .... I noticed I can hear better in loud environments if I cup my palms over my ears. So if wonder if on a bike ride, a head band to press them Closer in.. may help the audio??
These headphones are terrible, the aeropex was so much louder. I can barely hear these in a gym on max volume. What the hell was the added £30-40 for?? The ancient sound has to be dead quiet for me to hear anything. Poor.poor.poor. do not buy this pricy product! The problem is aeropex aren't stocking any more, so I have to go with regular wireless.
Thanks! I wouldn't purchase from this company before or after the rebrand. If you put any pressure at all on the headphones, the part that goes around your ear snaps loose and thus stops coming in direct contact with the temple areas of your skull. That is why a lot of people are complaining that they aren't loud. Without full contact, there won't be as much bone conduction happening. And these headphones have been built with that area that provides full contact to have zero rigidity. So, one bend and the plastic reinforcement snaps. When this occurs, the headphones still work, however, the bone conduction part no longer sits tightly on your temples and the volume and comfort decreases a tremendous amount. I will be purchasing from a different brand to see if this is any different. Besides, the other brands don't seem to charge more than $40-$60 LOL.
Another solid review. Thanks boys! I have pretty much all the high end noise canceling headphones release from the past few years so I'm 'shocked' to say that the open run pros are on my end 90% of the time. Great for being at work and still hearing my supervisor yell at me. Great for running errands and hearing people behind me tell me to hurry up. Great for just hanging around the house. They are so comfortable that I literally forget I'm wearing them and it's a pleasant surprise when I answer a call and boom....they're in my ears. I highly recommended them. Thanks again for always putting out great content. Namaste.
Yes! Thanks for sharing, agreed; but also I was forced to these. I had a terrible reaction to one set of buds after YEARS of using a wide variety and now they're all lost to me :( I haven't found hypoallergenic tips yet.
I agree that it was a great review with some objective comparisons. I too was shocked to hear that use the Open Run Pros on your buttocks 90% of the time. I can see that the noise cancelling would be important in that usage. Do you then wear them on your head only 10% of the time? Thanks for the tips.
I recently suffered hearing loss in my left ear and was looking into bone conductive headphones so I could still listen to my music/podcasts while at work. This review has helped so much and I now wear my Aeropex daily. Thank yall.🙏🤘
@@baphy_official6401 Hi friend! I also have impaired hearing in my left ear and am currently watching this after my dog ate my old aeropex- i loved them!!
Excellent review! Thank you for showing your mic tests and such rather than only talking about it, that really helps! I love the way you guys do these, with mixing humor with an actually nuanced and informative approach. Subscribed!
Longtime user of (After)Shokz, down on the lower-end of the range (Titanium, replaced under warranty with OpenMove), and I was *stunned* at how much better the noise cancellation is on the Pro. I can see why my wife has so much trouble hearing me when I’m taking her calls when I’m on a ride; I think I may get the Pros (keeping my OpenMove as a backup) and surprise her some day.
Sorry, just had to share the laugh when you were doing the test. Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test testing 123 ...I almost thought you were going to say "Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test tesitcle 123"
For me the Shokz bone induction sounds better than any earbuds I've ever worn. I don't think I'm imagining it, so maybe I'm special or rare. But the sound on bone induction is amazing for me.
I have both. I think the sound actually is as good as in-ear, but I'm not audiophile, for sure. But I have high end in-ear earbuds, and I find the open ear experience way more comfortable BECAUSE I hate the plugged ear feeling. I haven't noticed a lot of leakage, just a little, and the OpenRun Pro leaks a little more than the Aeropex. Also, OpenSwim isn't a Bluetooth headset, it's a head-worn mp3 player.
@@keithfanning4122 I don't think there's enough difference to tell. I needed a second headset to keep at work, and wasn't willing to spend another $179 for a second headset.
Yes I hate the plugged ear feeling too! I'm so excited to have my ears free with these headphones. I'm always taking my earbud out talk to people at work even though I only use one earbud while at work. I'm not 100% confident they will hold up for all my work situations - I'm a cleaner so I vacuum quite a bit - I'll see how they go tomorrow.
@@robyn_rainbow my Shokz have been through hell was back. They certainly hold up as well as any earbuds. They last a strong 8 hours and charge to 80% in about 10 minutes and fully in under half an hour. I wouldn't give them up for anything. It's like you're hearing it in the room, except no one else can hear it. I don't know how else to describe it. It sounds...real. I will say that outside noise can make them hard to hear because it's not muffled by the earbud. I can't use them in loud places because I can hear the outside noise clearly.
I got the open run pro. I had to get an EQ app that I paid for to drastically improve the sound quality and make it louder with the additional multiple choice EQ settings. Sux that the open run pro only have vocal and bass setting when the aeropex has multiple choice EQ settings. open run pro is a downgrade.
One thing I like about using bone conduction headphones is the ability to use an earplugs due to the nature of my work (I use pneumatic tools). Earplugs actually makes the sound of these devices pop. In comparison, in-ear earphones with noise cancelling features just can't compete with earplugs when it comes to muffling ear-piercing sound of compressed air. You do, however, get the full sound quality. However, battery life on in-ear isn't as good as bone conduction headphones, which last a full days work. (5-6hrs vs 9-10hrs). I might take a look at SHOKZ product for it's dual mic feature. The bone conduction headphone I have is quite good for listening to podcast and occasional music but not so great for making phone calls. Thanks for the somewhat in-depth review.
Had the pro for a month now, honestly I keep it near the lowest setting, rarely going up to 50% when in stores. And I am shocked by the battery life, longer by several hours then previous models
this is one of the best review videos I've seen. very helpful and inclusive of what I actually wanted and needed to know instead of just a rundown of specs like most.
Here is a different issue: I have used Aftershokz Air or Trekz Titanium since 2016, primarily for audiobooks and apps, indoors and out, and for most of the day. I rotate 2 Airs and have an old Air as a back up in my vehicle. I was looking forward to using the new "mini" headset, to reduce "overhang." Unfortunately, there are problems with new Shokz OpenRun Mini that the Trekz Air and Titanium do/did not have--problems not corrected through customer service troubleshooting. 1. The OpenRun Minis cut off the initial part of alerts and transmissions. This is very significant for short alerts. The TalkingTime or Talking Clock Apps will alert, “…forty-five pm,” instead of “The time is One forty-five pm.” Text message alerts will be the last part of the text tone tweet. Additionally, there is a stutter as if there is an electrical short. The Air and Titanium models do not have these problems. 2. Dictating for text yields the wrong verbiage. Again, this is much worse with the OpenRun Mini, than when using Trekz Air and Titanium models to dictate; one must turn off the OpenRun Mini to dictate. 3. After troubleshooting with the Shokz CS (hard reset-reboot), the first OpenRun Mini was returned and replaced. Unfortunately, the second OpenRun Mini had the same problems, and, likewise, the hard reset-reboots helped very little. So the replacement Bluetooth also had to be returned. I don't understand why this occurs, why Shokz cannot correct this problem, and why the old designs is better than the new.
Noticed the same thing about the alerts. Also, it really seems to me that the volume adjusts down once audio stops playing. Ridiculous for something that costs $180. Not impressed. And why give options like an EQ or language when you can put that money back into making it sound and function better?
I had Trakz titanium and now using aeropex. trakz had a slightly better sound quality, comparing to arropex. But the construction and weight are dealbreakers. You always could use ear plugs to block external sound and add some juicy bass
Great review, I never had the open run, but I had the aeropex and open run pro. My bag was stolen with my aeropex and so I upgraded to the open run pro. I used/use both daily for a long time in the office, and on my bike commute. Some things that were a big upgrade for me. I - have my headset paired with many many devices. The app makes managing the multipoint significantly easier if you have more than 2 devices. -The old model would continuously beep every few seconds if you went out of rage of one device. Like say you got a phone call, and work in a cube farm, and so you walk away from your desk. With the old one I would have to turn it off and back on to silence this alert. The new model beeps 1, maybe 2 times, and then does not. -You didn't mention the experience with ear plugs in. If you are looking for isolation and better sound quality, try them with a pair of foam ear plugs. It is a game changer, and now you can do things like mow the lawn and actually hear something. For me most of the time, the fact that it doesn't block all other sound is a feature, when I'm in the office, someone can approach me, and I hear them start talking; and when I'm commuting by bike. Hearing my surroundings and missing something in a podcast is also good. -For sleeping or laying down, you can rotate the back higher up on your head so that it doesn't interfere with the pillow, or what I will often to is flip them around so that the loop is in front of me. In this position, the mics don't really work, but if you are just watching some Netflix, or listening to music before bed, it works great.
I recently bought the Open-Run Pro and I am happy w/them. I can sleep with them by moving the back piece up. And best of all I can still hear what's going on around me....Also thinking of buying a 2nd pair. 👍
You guys do great work. One for the algorithm. I use and older version of these things, They are a great tool. Keeps my hyper vigilance at bay. If I run on a busy area, contrast to safety concerns, I like ANC Liberty Pro 3s. Again, your vis always appreciated
Was I the only one thinking that at 3:40 he was going to say “pop-pop-popsicles, ice-ice-icicles, test-test-*Testicles*”….? 😂 Or was that the joke? Lol
Thanks for the honest and practical review! I was kicking myself because i accidentally ordered the openrun instead of the Pro. Now I know it's best to wait for the next iteration.
One thing that should be reviewed as a common issue is how loud is the "disconnected from bluetooth" beep. When you leave the range of your bluetooth you get a beep in older versions it's really too loud. and it keeps on beeping.. unless you shut down, or get back in range. Also I heard the plastic feel is different
Huh, I haven't noticed this at all. There's a little beep, but I want to know, so I don't forget to shut them down..... maybe they made it quieter in a firmware update 🤔
Thanks, I bought a Shokz OpenRun (not the pro) last month. I used them to listen to podcasts at home so I can hear my wife yelling at me and I can easily stop the podcast unlike in earbuds where I'm tapping on my ear to make them stop or other headphones trying to find the pause button. For me, the OpenRun makes listening to podcasts manageable and more sociable as you are not isolated in the same way as other listening devices. So far so good, thanks again for the video :)
I still prefer Aeropex. Based on this video, aeropex has clearer sound quality whereas OpenRun Pro has more bass. In my opinion, bass works best with traditional in-ear speaker headset. More importantly, Aeropex has better IP rating. Either way, both products are perfect. Great review guys!
I've heard that the sound quality on the openrun pro are not that great. It may be okay for running, but not so sure about the sound quality. I would prefer something that has better sound quality like for music. And these are very expensive. I would have to get a case for it and a 2 pack charging cable replacement for it, all in all that cost a lot of money, so I don't even know if it's worth it.
I have the open run, not open run Pro. Because open run actually has better water resistance than open run Pro which makes no sense but hey. I've been very pleased with the open runs. I'm not an audio file, but I can listen to music and it sounds good to me. The two things that I have noticed that our weaknesses are they don't get particularly loud, and the whole buzzing against your head thing. But you get used to that. At first I was slapping away and imaginary bugs on the side of my head. But then I got used to them. I use them for pleasure and for work. I do ITwork, so having both hands free is super nice. Additionally I can put in hearing protection if I'm in a loud environment like a server room, and both I and the people I'm speaking with on the bridge can hear fine. I've been very pleased with them
Thanks for this informative review. I just bought these and I was scouring TH-cam to see if I had any buyer’s remorse from such an impulse purchase. After watching this review, so far, no, but we’ll see once they show up at my door. Thanks, again!
On my second pair of Shokz and what love most is not having to deal with earbuds that don't fit my ears or the chance of misplacing them since they are small. Also they are great that I can still hear what is going on around me if someone trying to speak with me.
I used my open ear shokz at work today while wearing earplugs because operating loud heavy equipment. You can hear really well still even with the lil foam earplugs
LOL, I have a MASSIVE head, and surprisingly can sleep in them, so you're right. Which makes shopping for these types of headphones annoying, even the old school bluetooth "neckbands", they are not made for massive head people like me. I've tried alternatives to Shokz, and the aeropex were the only ones that fit my large head. Looking to upgrade to them. Recently re-discovered my Aeropex after misplacing them, and use them to do yard and house work while being able to hear my dogs.
Just bought the blue pair of these, i have to wear a walkie talkie and wire all day, and we're not really allowed to remove it on break. This will be great for me, as i can just slap these on without removing my wire. When i box at home, my earbuds always try to fall out from the movement and sweat (JBL endurance btw), so these should be awesome for that. Thank you for your great review!
Good test of differences. Put me off of even thinking about taking a call on them, saved me the work of a trial. It would be great to see a test of the version with an external microphone for comparison. (Opencomm?) I'll have to see your other reviews to see what comparable earbuds and phones sound like in your testing
Thanks for the honest pros and cons review. Decided to chance it as I'm getting tired of things in my ears unless playing my drums with hearing protection (hobbyist, and not getting to play nearly enough). I got the Open Run regular, and they sound great for my needs (mostly youtube music and review videos such as yours at home, music at work), simply amazing technology this technophobe loves!! I don't have to worry about making the tinnitus worse in my ears either as I can keep the volume very low and still hear everything...again, amazing! Going to use the equalizer on my Pixel 7 Pro to bump up bass if needed.
To really know what volume you're listening at, plug your ears. Open ear products actually hit your eardrums with more SPLs but the _perceived_ volume is lower.
I had both I returned my pros the new shape of the ear hoop bothered my ears. Sound was better but quieter on the new ones. Less vibrations. In all I returned the pros and warranty my old aftershokz that I was replacing cuz they broke
I do have a big head with 63 cm. I wear them as my edcs and more often than I want, I sleep with them still on because I forgot them. I think thats a good sign for comfort, but I saw it when others used a shokz headset. This headsets comfort depends heavily on your Headsize. I would say it should fit most for outdoor-/sport activities but laying on the bed or couch probably isn't an option for most. Mine fit me so well, I can use them in a motorcycle helmet. Thanks for reading, nice vid
I've got 2 sets from AfterShokz, Open Com (Great for WAH, battery lasts hours and noise canceling mic is wonderful ***BOOM MIC***) and Open Air (Green :-) ) they last me 8+ hours a day when I use them during my days off, otherwise, I go to sleep listening to music of various sorts and they ARE fairly comfortable...
I have open moves. They’re great. I’m not really listening to music on them often but I use them while working inside and outside. They last all 11 hours of my shift. I usually listen to podcasts and TH-cam videos. They charge pretty quickly. After years of constantly wearing in ear headphones these provide a lot of relief to my ears. They’re not perfect but the compromise is worth it to me
One of the best reviews I've come across for the Shokz OpenRun series after seeing and hearing them with some default sounds in the local electronics store. I was positively surprised hearing you say goedendag. Next time, end your video with Tot ziens, and before you know, Y'll speak Dutch😊
I got the PRO love them use everyday can talk to people but have vol low paired with my iphone 13 and new iwatch i got lower and raise the vol with watch and stop start and skip with watch love the video ty
You are spot on with your review. I went from Aftershokz to Open Run and got very disappointed as far as the sound strength was concerned!! I am looking forward to try Open Run Pro 2.
My aeropex has a broken power switch. I can only return them for money. I can’t get the open run so I decided to upgrade. I usually use them for longer runs 10+ km. I know many people who also use them for running or cycling
Thanks for the wonderful honest review.. I really enjoyed the pop pop popsicle... And I watched it multiple times. The way of presentation of the overall video is superb. Looking forward for more wonderful reviews and I subscribed to your channel. As well changed my mind from Openrun Pro to Openrun.. Thanks for helping me to choose the right one. Goodluck to you both!
Thank you for this! My partner digs these for work because he can't have his ears covered, and I was considering getting these for streaming. This review let me know that these won't work for me...that leakage would be a major problem. Thank you!
I always thought they were uncomfortable to lay in bed too, until… The last pair I bought, I read the sizing instructions, and measured myself. SURPRISE! It said that I could fit the “Junior” size, just a half inch smaller, but they fit closer, and are actually doable while laying down in bed, probably not all night, but I will use them for a guided meditation.
I had the same feeling, I have the AS800, and I bought the S810, and the treble is worse, the Shokz application solved the problem because there are two equalization modes: "audience with more bass" and "vocal for podcasts" it's much better now
Really helpful review! Though I admit I’m still split on which model to get… The mic is a non-factor as I’ll be using these almost exclusively to work out in; would that put the old model ahead then? Hard for me to infer.
the shockz do have one thing though.being able to use it during work and social enviornments and still being able to hear your enviornment while listening to music is a game changer.thats the part of the headphones can't be beat and a main selling point.
Tbh I was a bit disappointed that you broke the pattern on the test phrase 😂Otherwise, one of the better mic demo and comparisons I've seen for earphones! Thanks!
Im glad you made thiw video, I bought some for my mom nd brother(both older gen) and when I saw that they came out with a new one I debated whether I should upgrade them but now I know that they should be okay:)
Good review thanks. I’m looking for a new pair as my aeropex have that annoying rattle in them now just missed out on the warranty period. Hopefully the new models are built better
My Aeropex Last 16 - 20 hrs plus on a single gle charge -With That Said - Im definitely Getting The OpenRunPro A S A P - AweSome ReView Thanks So Much - Best Review I've Watched On ORP BY SHOKZ
My Openrun Mini, not Pro, arrived yesterday. To me they sound horrible. Definitely not for music, but more for listening to reviews on YT like yours. I may exchange for the Pro Mini, but won’t expect much in the way of audio quality. Great review.
My favorite feature change on the Openrun Pro is that accidentally mashing the play/pause button doesn't arbitrarily call whoever was the last person I spoke to on the phone.
my ears are too small for in ear buds to be comfortable, and due to a deep lobe parotid tumour, its become painful to wear on and over ear headphones. Been squinting at these as something I can wear without pain and I do like my bass. Wont be like my extra bass over ears, but its at least...something. Thanks for the breakdown and tests! Mostly use headphones for biking, discord game calls, and general chill music listening.
I understand ear phones at high volume damage hearing but I have my bone conductive set about 80% or more but mine are true aeropex, looking at adjustable earplugs so can lower them when walking with cars going along dual carriageway
@@DHRME I'm thinking the OpenRun Pro (in hopes that they come out with a mini version eventually). But if not then the OpenRun Mini sounds like they'll work fine.
The mini is quite a bit smaller and works for me when laying down 😊 Its still a little big on me, but much better. You measure from behind your ears. Up until 23.5 cm the mini will fit.
I recently bought open comm with the boom mic. Pissed off they don't work well with face time on apple iphone. It cancels the call basically. I feel Shokz are really only suited to the convenience of hands free comms on mobile phones etcetera. Listening to music? Do it properly with headphones. I have emailed the company about the connectivity problems. Anyone get these? 🙃
The water resistance of the original was nice, however I quickly stopped using them in the shower as any amount of water would almost completely block the microphone for calls.
What doesn't make any sense is if you go to Amazon the OpenRun (which is the upgraded version of Aeropex) is only $130. Where is the Aeropax is still $170. The difference between the OpenRun and the Aeropex is that the OpenRun has a faster charging time and a "improved 5.1 Bluetooth connection." As long as the Bluetooth connects I don't see how that makes any difference. The only reason I'm getting new ones is cuz my previous ones broke due to the Power button being stuck. So I think to combat this they made bigger better durable buttons on the OpenRun & OpenRun Pro series. Has anyone else had problems pressing the power button after 2 years of owning Aeropex? Share your thoughts and tell what you think about all of this. Civilly and respectfully of course! 😊
These work good for blind people also. I have a pair of bone conduction earphones I use, the new Padmate S30. Those don't have nearly the leakage these do, but some idiot decided to make it that whenever you used the button control on the S30, it had a really loud, high pitched beep that was extremely painful to my ears. That being said, bone conduction headphones have a long way to go. Great review though.
I Love Me Aftershokz Aeropex - 14 Hours On A Single Charge Is Just AweSomeNess PerSoNiFied And The Bass Is Fine - The OpenRun Pros Do Sound Better With Inproved Bass
I almost expected him to go Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test testi...
-cles
same :))
Testicle!
Lol, just watched this thinking the exact same thing 🤣
I paused the video and came looking for this comment. Didn’t disappoint me.
I broke my Aeropex model while in my pocket, so I was forced to upgrade and I got the Openrun Pro. I did notice a difference in sound quality, I mainly listen to podcasts while working(I'm a gardener/carpenter) and the improvements I've noticed are less distortions at higher volumes, the Aeropex felt like there were 2 blow flies on my ears, the Openrun pro will still distort at higher volumes but not as bad as the Aeropex. But the volume does not appear to go any higher. I ride my bike to and from work, in heavy loud traffic I struggle to hear the words of the podcast when the traffic is loud. I do notice a marginally better sound quality. Also the headphones feel more comfortable. I would wear both headphones all day and the Openrun Pro are definitely more comfortable long term. In summary I would not upgrade if I had the Aeropex, but if I was buying for the first time I would buy the Openrun Pro.
You could use the earplugs but that’s probably not a good idea in traffic. My reason to use them are. When I do long run i don’t feel like water collecting in my ear. And when I run alongside the roads I can hear the traffic coming
thank you .... I noticed I can hear better in loud environments if I cup my palms over my ears. So if wonder if on a bike ride, a head band to press them Closer in.. may help the audio??
These headphones are terrible, the aeropex was so much louder. I can barely hear these in a gym on max volume. What the hell was the added £30-40 for?? The ancient sound has to be dead quiet for me to hear anything. Poor.poor.poor. do not buy this pricy product!
The problem is aeropex aren't stocking any more, so I have to go with regular wireless.
Mine broke recently as well. This is helpful! Thank you
Thanks! I wouldn't purchase from this company before or after the rebrand. If you put any pressure at all on the headphones, the part that goes around your ear snaps loose and thus stops coming in direct contact with the temple areas of your skull. That is why a lot of people are complaining that they aren't loud. Without full contact, there won't be as much bone conduction happening. And these headphones have been built with that area that provides full contact to have zero rigidity. So, one bend and the plastic reinforcement snaps. When this occurs, the headphones still work, however, the bone conduction part no longer sits tightly on your temples and the volume and comfort decreases a tremendous amount.
I will be purchasing from a different brand to see if this is any different. Besides, the other brands don't seem to charge more than $40-$60 LOL.
The nostril censorship! Laughed so hard my dogs looked at me weird 🤣 😂🤣😂🤣
Trying to keep it clean, might censor the whole face next time.
We do appreciate that haa
When you said, "Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test..." I was expecting a different word. Very smooth..
Testicle!
Another solid review. Thanks boys! I have pretty much all the high end noise canceling headphones release from the past few years so I'm 'shocked' to say that the open run pros are on my end 90% of the time. Great for being at work and still hearing my supervisor yell at me. Great for running errands and hearing people behind me tell me to hurry up. Great for just hanging around the house. They are so comfortable that I literally forget I'm wearing them and it's a pleasant surprise when I answer a call and boom....they're in my ears. I highly recommended them. Thanks again for always putting out great content. Namaste.
You're most welcome Dharmendra and all those use cases are very recognizable!
Yes! Thanks for sharing, agreed; but also I was forced to these. I had a terrible reaction to one set of buds after YEARS of using a wide variety and now they're all lost to me :( I haven't found hypoallergenic tips yet.
“ great for being at work and still hear my supervisor yelling at me” 😂😂🥲 🙌🙌
I agree that it was a great review with some objective comparisons. I too was shocked to hear that use the Open Run Pros on your buttocks 90% of the time. I can see that the noise cancelling would be important in that usage. Do you then wear them on your head only 10% of the time? Thanks for the tips.
I recently suffered hearing loss in my left ear and was looking into bone conductive headphones so I could still listen to my music/podcasts while at work. This review has helped so much and I now wear my Aeropex daily. Thank yall.🙏🤘
@@baphy_official6401 Hi friend! I also have impaired hearing in my left ear and am currently watching this after my dog ate my old aeropex- i loved them!!
Excellent review! Thank you for showing your mic tests and such rather than only talking about it, that really helps! I love the way you guys do these, with mixing humor with an actually nuanced and informative approach. Subscribed!
Much appreciated Elias! And welcome to the channel 😃
Longtime user of (After)Shokz, down on the lower-end of the range (Titanium, replaced under warranty with OpenMove), and I was *stunned* at how much better the noise cancellation is on the Pro. I can see why my wife has so much trouble hearing me when I’m taking her calls when I’m on a ride; I think I may get the Pros (keeping my OpenMove as a backup) and surprise her some day.
Sorry, just had to share the laugh when you were doing the test.
Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test testing 123 ...I almost thought you were going to say "Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test tesitcle 123"
For me the Shokz bone induction sounds better than any earbuds I've ever worn. I don't think I'm imagining it, so maybe I'm special or rare. But the sound on bone induction is amazing for me.
And that's just fine Jeremy!
I have both. I think the sound actually is as good as in-ear, but I'm not audiophile, for sure. But I have high end in-ear earbuds, and I find the open ear experience way more comfortable BECAUSE I hate the plugged ear feeling.
I haven't noticed a lot of leakage, just a little, and the OpenRun Pro leaks a little more than the Aeropex.
Also, OpenSwim isn't a Bluetooth headset, it's a head-worn mp3 player.
Thanks for the info on the OpenSwim!
As someone that owns both, which one do you believe to have the better sound quality?
@@keithfanning4122 I don't think there's enough difference to tell. I needed a second headset to keep at work, and wasn't willing to spend another $179 for a second headset.
Yes I hate the plugged ear feeling too! I'm so excited to have my ears free with these headphones. I'm always taking my earbud out talk to people at work even though I only use one earbud while at work. I'm not 100% confident they will hold up for all my work situations - I'm a cleaner so I vacuum quite a bit - I'll see how they go tomorrow.
@@robyn_rainbow my Shokz have been through hell was back. They certainly hold up as well as any earbuds. They last a strong 8 hours and charge to 80% in about 10 minutes and fully in under half an hour. I wouldn't give them up for anything.
It's like you're hearing it in the room, except no one else can hear it. I don't know how else to describe it. It sounds...real.
I will say that outside noise can make them hard to hear because it's not muffled by the earbud. I can't use them in loud places because I can hear the outside noise clearly.
DHRME.. The best earbuds review channel on TH-cam. Most reliable source + funny jokes. Can't ask for more!
I got the open run pro. I had to get an EQ app that I paid for to drastically improve the sound quality and make it louder with the additional multiple choice EQ settings. Sux that the open run pro only have vocal and bass setting when the aeropex has multiple choice EQ settings. open run pro is a downgrade.
Which EQ app worked with the Openrun Pro?
Which eq app did you get?
One thing I like about using bone conduction headphones is the ability to use an earplugs due to the nature of my work (I use pneumatic tools). Earplugs actually makes the sound of these devices pop. In comparison, in-ear earphones with noise cancelling features just can't compete with earplugs when it comes to muffling ear-piercing sound of compressed air. You do, however, get the full sound quality. However, battery life on in-ear isn't as good as bone conduction headphones, which last a full days work. (5-6hrs vs 9-10hrs).
I might take a look at SHOKZ product for it's dual mic feature. The bone conduction headphone I have is quite good for listening to podcast and occasional music but not so great for making phone calls. Thanks for the somewhat in-depth review.
Good point, Nelson - thanks for the comment!
Glad to hear I plan to wear these with loops and I had a feeling that combo would be killer
Had the pro for a month now, honestly I keep it near the lowest setting, rarely going up to 50% when in stores.
And I am shocked by the battery life, longer by several hours then previous models
this is one of the best review videos I've seen. very helpful and inclusive of what I actually wanted and needed to know instead of just a rundown of specs like most.
Cheers Feral!
Here is a different issue:
I have used Aftershokz Air or Trekz Titanium since 2016, primarily for audiobooks and apps, indoors and out, and for most of the day. I rotate 2 Airs and have an old Air as a back up in my vehicle. I was looking forward to using the new "mini" headset, to reduce "overhang." Unfortunately, there are problems with new Shokz OpenRun Mini that the Trekz Air and Titanium do/did not have--problems not corrected through customer service troubleshooting.
1. The OpenRun Minis cut off the initial part of alerts and transmissions. This is very significant for short alerts. The TalkingTime or Talking Clock Apps will alert, “…forty-five pm,” instead of “The time is One forty-five pm.” Text message alerts will be the last part of the text tone tweet. Additionally, there is a stutter as if there is an electrical short. The Air and Titanium models do not have these problems.
2. Dictating for text yields the wrong verbiage. Again, this is much worse with the OpenRun Mini, than when using Trekz Air and Titanium models to dictate; one must turn off the OpenRun Mini to dictate.
3. After troubleshooting with the Shokz CS (hard reset-reboot), the first OpenRun Mini was returned and replaced. Unfortunately, the second OpenRun Mini had the same problems, and, likewise, the hard reset-reboots helped very little. So the replacement Bluetooth also had to be returned.
I don't understand why this occurs, why Shokz cannot correct this problem, and why the old designs is better than the new.
Noticed the same thing about the alerts. Also, it really seems to me that the volume adjusts down once audio stops playing. Ridiculous for something that costs $180. Not impressed. And why give options like an EQ or language when you can put that money back into making it sound and function better?
I had Trakz titanium and now using aeropex.
trakz had a slightly better sound quality, comparing to arropex. But the construction and weight are dealbreakers.
You always could use ear plugs to block external sound and add some juicy bass
Great review, I never had the open run, but I had the aeropex and open run pro. My bag was stolen with my aeropex and so I upgraded to the open run pro. I used/use both daily for a long time in the office, and on my bike commute.
Some things that were a big upgrade for me. I
- have my headset paired with many many devices. The app makes managing the multipoint significantly easier if you have more than 2 devices.
-The old model would continuously beep every few seconds if you went out of rage of one device. Like say you got a phone call, and work in a cube farm, and so you walk away from your desk. With the old one I would have to turn it off and back on to silence this alert. The new model beeps 1, maybe 2 times, and then does not.
-You didn't mention the experience with ear plugs in. If you are looking for isolation and better sound quality, try them with a pair of foam ear plugs. It is a game changer, and now you can do things like mow the lawn and actually hear something. For me most of the time, the fact that it doesn't block all other sound is a feature, when I'm in the office, someone can approach me, and I hear them start talking; and when I'm commuting by bike. Hearing my surroundings and missing something in a podcast is also good.
-For sleeping or laying down, you can rotate the back higher up on your head so that it doesn't interfere with the pillow, or what I will often to is flip them around so that the loop is in front of me. In this position, the mics don't really work, but if you are just watching some Netflix, or listening to music before bed, it works great.
I'm looking at loop ear plugs as they got ones with adjustment so like chatting - concert/subway - isolation
I recently bought the Open-Run Pro and I am happy w/them. I can sleep with them by moving the back piece up. And best of all I can still hear what's going on around me....Also thinking of buying a 2nd pair. 👍
You guys do great work. One for the algorithm. I use and older version of these things, They are a great tool. Keeps my hyper vigilance at bay. If I run on a busy area, contrast to safety concerns, I like ANC Liberty Pro 3s. Again, your vis always appreciated
Was I the only one thinking that at 3:40 he was going to say “pop-pop-popsicles, ice-ice-icicles, test-test-*Testicles*”….? 😂
Or was that the joke? Lol
Best review of these headphones overall. You’re the only ones I could find who tested the mic. Thanks!
Thanks for the honest and practical review! I was kicking myself because i accidentally ordered the openrun instead of the Pro. Now I know it's best to wait for the next iteration.
One thing that should be reviewed as a common issue is how loud is the "disconnected from bluetooth" beep. When you leave the range of your bluetooth you get a beep in older versions it's really too loud. and it keeps on beeping.. unless you shut down, or get back in range.
Also I heard the plastic feel is different
Huh, I haven't noticed this at all. There's a little beep, but I want to know, so I don't forget to shut them down..... maybe they made it quieter in a firmware update 🤔
With the mic test could have gone for it.
'Pop, pop, popsicle. Ice, ice, icicle. Test, test, tes-....'
Really good, very thorough test.
Every time, I did not expect to hear "testing"
Thanks, I bought a Shokz OpenRun (not the pro) last month. I used them to listen to podcasts at home so I can hear my wife yelling at me and I can easily stop the podcast unlike in earbuds where I'm tapping on my ear to make them stop or other headphones trying to find the pause button.
For me, the OpenRun makes listening to podcasts manageable and more sociable as you are not isolated in the same way as other listening devices.
So far so good, thanks again for the video :)
Haha glad to see you found your own use case David 😁
I still prefer Aeropex. Based on this video, aeropex has clearer sound quality whereas OpenRun Pro has more bass. In my opinion, bass works best with traditional in-ear speaker headset. More importantly, Aeropex has better IP rating. Either way, both products are perfect. Great review guys!
I've heard that the sound quality on the openrun pro are not that great. It may be okay for running, but not so sure about the sound quality. I would prefer something that has better sound quality like for music. And these are very expensive. I would have to get a case for it and a 2 pack charging cable replacement for it, all in all that cost a lot of money, so I don't even know if it's worth it.
I have the open run, not open run Pro. Because open run actually has better water resistance than open run Pro which makes no sense but hey. I've been very pleased with the open runs. I'm not an audio file, but I can listen to music and it sounds good to me. The two things that I have noticed that our weaknesses are they don't get particularly loud, and the whole buzzing against your head thing. But you get used to that. At first I was slapping away and imaginary bugs on the side of my head. But then I got used to them.
I use them for pleasure and for work. I do ITwork, so having both hands free is super nice. Additionally I can put in hearing protection if I'm in a loud environment like a server room, and both I and the people I'm speaking with on the bridge can hear fine.
I've been very pleased with them
Thanks for this informative review. I just bought these and I was scouring TH-cam to see if I had any buyer’s remorse from such an impulse purchase. After watching this review, so far, no, but we’ll see once they show up at my door. Thanks, again!
Good luck Francis!
On my second pair of Shokz and what love most is not having to deal with earbuds that don't fit my ears or the chance of misplacing them since they are small. Also they are great that I can still hear what is going on around me if someone trying to speak with me.
I used my open ear shokz at work today while wearing earplugs because operating loud heavy equipment. You can hear really well still even with the lil foam earplugs
LOL, I have a MASSIVE head, and surprisingly can sleep in them, so you're right. Which makes shopping for these types of headphones annoying, even the old school bluetooth "neckbands", they are not made for massive head people like me. I've tried alternatives to Shokz, and the aeropex were the only ones that fit my large head. Looking to upgrade to them. Recently re-discovered my Aeropex after misplacing them, and use them to do yard and house work while being able to hear my dogs.
Just bought the blue pair of these, i have to wear a walkie talkie and wire all day, and we're not really allowed to remove it on break. This will be great for me, as i can just slap these on without removing my wire. When i box at home, my earbuds always try to fall out from the movement and sweat (JBL endurance btw), so these should be awesome for that. Thank you for your great review!
You guys have set a new standard for how reviews should be done !
Cheers Mark!
I really like your delivery! Great channel! Best wishes to you both!
Appreciate it Rob!
Good test of differences. Put me off of even thinking about taking a call on them, saved me the work of a trial.
It would be great to see a test of the version with an external microphone for comparison. (Opencomm?)
I'll have to see your other reviews to see what comparable earbuds and phones sound like in your testing
All you need to do is come up with an external pickup mic for us that are hard of hearing that will feed through these things to help hearing impaired
Really impressive review. Great breakdown and comparison of all the essential criteria. This was a really helpful video, many thanks.
Thanks for the honest pros and cons review. Decided to chance it as I'm getting tired of things in my ears unless playing my drums with hearing protection (hobbyist, and not getting to play nearly enough). I got the Open Run regular, and they sound great for my needs (mostly youtube music and review videos such as yours at home, music at work), simply amazing technology this technophobe loves!! I don't have to worry about making the tinnitus worse in my ears either as I can keep the volume very low and still hear everything...again, amazing! Going to use the equalizer on my Pixel 7 Pro to bump up bass if needed.
To really know what volume you're listening at, plug your ears. Open ear products actually hit your eardrums with more SPLs but the _perceived_ volume is lower.
Excellent review, must admit I was expecting something silly, but best I’ve seen and very in-depth..
I had both I returned my pros the new shape of the ear hoop bothered my ears. Sound was better but quieter on the new ones. Less vibrations. In all I returned the pros and warranty my old aftershokz that I was replacing cuz they broke
I do have a big head with 63 cm. I wear them as my edcs and more often than I want, I sleep with them still on because I forgot them.
I think thats a good sign for comfort, but I saw it when others used a shokz headset. This headsets comfort depends heavily on your Headsize.
I would say it should fit most for outdoor-/sport activities but laying on the bed or couch probably isn't an option for most. Mine fit me so well, I can use them in a motorcycle helmet.
Thanks for reading, nice vid
I've got 2 sets from AfterShokz, Open Com (Great for WAH, battery lasts hours and noise canceling mic is wonderful ***BOOM MIC***) and Open Air (Green :-) ) they last me 8+ hours a day when I use them during my days off, otherwise, I go to sleep listening to music of various sorts and they ARE fairly comfortable...
I have open moves. They’re great. I’m not really listening to music on them often but I use them while working inside and outside. They last all 11 hours of my shift. I usually listen to podcasts and TH-cam videos. They charge pretty quickly. After years of constantly wearing in ear headphones these provide a lot of relief to my ears. They’re not perfect but the compromise is worth it to me
Thanks for sharing!!
One of the best reviews I've come across for the Shokz OpenRun series after seeing and hearing them with some default sounds in the local electronics store. I was positively surprised hearing you say goedendag. Next time, end your video with Tot ziens, and before you know, Y'll speak Dutch😊
Komt helemaal goed Jeffrey! ;)
I got the PRO love them use everyday can talk to people but have vol low paired with my iphone 13 and new iwatch i got lower and raise the vol with watch and stop start and skip with watch love the video ty
Since I already have a pair of normal headphones for general use, I've been thinking about getting a pair of SHOKZ for hiking/trail running only
Thank You! For such an excellent in depth review, covering the most essential things we needed to know!
You are spot on with your review. I went from Aftershokz to Open Run and got very disappointed as far as the sound strength was concerned!! I am looking forward to try Open Run Pro 2.
My aeropex has a broken power switch. I can only return them for money. I can’t get the open run so I decided to upgrade. I usually use them for longer runs 10+ km. I know many people who also use them for running or cycling
Thanks for the wonderful honest review.. I really enjoyed the pop pop popsicle... And I watched it multiple times. The way of presentation of the overall video is superb. Looking forward for more wonderful reviews and I subscribed to your channel. As well changed my mind from Openrun Pro to Openrun.. Thanks for helping me to choose the right one. Goodluck to you both!
You're welcome, Sai! Good luck!
Thank you for this! My partner digs these for work because he can't have his ears covered, and I was considering getting these for streaming.
This review let me know that these won't work for me...that leakage would be a major problem. Thank you!
I returned the Open run pro because of the reasons you guys mentioned.
I always thought they were uncomfortable to lay in bed too, until…
The last pair I bought, I read the sizing instructions, and measured myself. SURPRISE! It said that I could fit the “Junior” size, just a half inch smaller, but they fit closer, and are actually doable while laying down in bed, probably not all night, but I will use them for a guided meditation.
Thanks for sharing, Jason!
I had the same feeling, I have the AS800, and I bought the S810, and the treble is worse, the Shokz application solved the problem because there are two equalization modes: "audience with more bass" and "vocal for podcasts" it's much better now
A great review. Good format. You cover everything. Even wearing with glasses and masks. Thanks.
Really helpful review! Though I admit I’m still split on which model to get… The mic is a non-factor as I’ll be using these almost exclusively to work out in; would that put the old model ahead then? Hard for me to infer.
Yeah the older model would work for you. The sound and clarity is better on the Pro, however.
@@DHRME thanks. I ended up going with the “old” model and I love them!
Thank you for this honest and critical review which was down to earth.
I sleep in my Aeropex all the time without a big head. I pivot the boom upward so it touches my head, that's it.
Glad I saw this before investing in one. I think I will stick to my Jabra they are brilliant!
the shockz do have one thing though.being able to use it during work and social enviornments and still being able to hear your enviornment while listening to music is a game changer.thats the part of the headphones can't be beat and a main selling point.
I was about to about to laugh with the testing of audio when you said popsicle, icicle, and avoided test-icle LOL
Tbh I was a bit disappointed that you broke the pattern on the test phrase 😂Otherwise, one of the better mic demo and comparisons I've seen for earphones! Thanks!
Cheers Simon 😉
Thank you so much for such a honest no bullshit review. It really helped me make my decission.
Im glad you made thiw video, I bought some for my mom nd brother(both older gen) and when I saw that they came out with a new one I debated whether I should upgrade them but now I know that they should be okay:)
Happy it helped and hope they enjoy it!
Good review thanks. I’m looking for a new pair as my aeropex have that annoying rattle in them now just missed out on the warranty period. Hopefully the new models are built better
My Aeropex Last 16 - 20 hrs plus on a single gle charge -With That Said - Im definitely Getting The OpenRunPro A S A P - AweSome ReView Thanks So Much - Best Review I've Watched On ORP BY SHOKZ
My Openrun Mini, not Pro, arrived yesterday. To me they sound horrible. Definitely not for music, but more for listening to reviews on YT like yours. I may exchange for the Pro Mini, but won’t expect much in the way of audio quality. Great review.
Thank you for being so Honest Dhrme :)
Cheers Michael!
My favorite feature change on the Openrun Pro is that accidentally mashing the play/pause button doesn't arbitrarily call whoever was the last person I spoke to on the phone.
I took the decision for OpenRun rather than Pro. Considering that the level of protection of dust and water was higher than the Pro
How's the battery life?
@@Joesolo13 I have only used the OpenRun and battery can last for a full 1.5 hours meeting
This was so thorough. really great job guys.
That's how reviews are done properly. Thx.
Wife and I will keep our aeropex's then! Thanks for saving us money. Maybe next generation we will have the itch for an even better headset :)
Wow!!! Yes I wish I saw this when I bought them. I am not impressed with the the pro as much as the price tag insists. Great video. Awesome
Cheers Karen!
4:22 Pop-pop-popsicle, Ice-ice-icicle, test-test-testicle, one, two, three!
I submerged them in full water 4 months ago....still works since then
.no problem
Resisting the temptation to say "test test testicle" is really impressive!
my ears are too small for in ear buds to be comfortable, and due to a deep lobe parotid tumour, its become painful to wear on and over ear headphones. Been squinting at these as something I can wear without pain and I do like my bass. Wont be like my extra bass over ears, but its at least...something. Thanks for the breakdown and tests!
Mostly use headphones for biking, discord game calls, and general chill music listening.
Mic is very important to work properly. How the the person listen clear and loud.
The microphone is very good. I bought one before one week. Good quality. Clear sound to the person who receive the call. More details soon.
I understand ear phones at high volume damage hearing but I have my bone conductive set about 80% or more but mine are true aeropex, looking at adjustable earplugs so can lower them when walking with cars going along dual carriageway
If you where some foam safety earplugs they will cancel out outside noise and really improve the sound quality of the shocks
Great review! I still have my Titanium Minis and and trying to decide on what to upgrade to when this pair stops working. 😊
What have you decided, Gina?
@@DHRME I'm thinking the OpenRun Pro (in hopes that they come out with a mini version eventually). But if not then the OpenRun Mini sounds like they'll work fine.
@@crazyn8tv good choice!
"the result might shokz you" dude I'm dying from laughter :DDDDD
Top notch review quality. Thanks, guys!
Very nice review and real life not just talking about the product
I love my Aeropex headset so much. I forget I'm wearing it most of the time it's so lightweight.
I know it’s childish; but who was waiting for the ‘test-test-testicle’ 😁
Enjoying this a lot. So much that I forgot to press the thumbs up. My bad. I had to go back and watch it again
The waterproof rating means they’re less sweat resistant than the older ones. Ouch. I sweat a lot. But maybe both are ok.
Yeah should be fine, Paul.
You are right about the Pro, around 5k of running my sweat seeps into the speakers and sound becomes muffled/unusable. Definitely not a 'pro' product.
Great video! I has wondering why I was seeing the two names going around!
The mini is quite a bit smaller and works for me when laying down 😊
Its still a little big on me, but much better. You measure from behind your ears. Up until 23.5 cm the mini will fit.
Great, thanks for that, Soraya!
I recently bought open comm with the boom mic. Pissed off they don't work well with face time on apple iphone. It cancels the call basically. I feel Shokz are really only suited to the convenience of hands free comms on mobile phones etcetera. Listening to music? Do it properly with headphones. I have emailed the company about the connectivity problems. Anyone get these?
🙃
loved the review, keep it up guys
The water resistance of the original was nice, however I quickly stopped using them in the shower as any amount of water would almost completely block the microphone for calls.
What doesn't make any sense is if you go to Amazon the OpenRun (which is the upgraded version of Aeropex) is only $130.
Where is the Aeropax is still $170.
The difference between the OpenRun and the Aeropex is that the OpenRun has a faster charging time and a "improved 5.1 Bluetooth connection."
As long as the Bluetooth connects I don't see how that makes any difference.
The only reason I'm getting new ones is cuz my previous ones broke due to the Power button being stuck.
So I think to combat this they made bigger better durable buttons on the OpenRun & OpenRun Pro series.
Has anyone else had problems pressing the power button after 2 years of owning Aeropex?
Share your thoughts and tell what you think about all of this.
Civilly and respectfully of course! 😊
Must have rectified this as I just bought some aeropex for 100 off amazon
@@GodsAwayOnBusiness87 yeah they updated the price. Makes you wonder if they caught by themselves or by the those of us that picked up on it.
These work good for blind people also. I have a pair of bone conduction earphones I use, the new Padmate S30. Those don't have nearly the leakage these do, but some idiot decided to make it that whenever you used the button control on the S30, it had a really loud, high pitched beep that was extremely painful to my ears. That being said, bone conduction headphones have a long way to go. Great review though.
dang, didnt think about that use
I Love Me Aftershokz Aeropex - 14 Hours On A Single Charge Is Just AweSomeNess PerSoNiFied And The Bass Is Fine - The OpenRun Pros Do Sound Better With Inproved Bass
My favorite movie of yours was probably Signs. Thank you!
No sweat - loved you in Game of Thrones!