Here's Why The 997.1 Porsche Carrera 2 S is Now The Perfect First 911

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  • Another day, another Porsche - but this one is very special, and close to my heart. Here's why - and a few reasons you should buy one.
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  • @LukeMarthinusen
    @LukeMarthinusen ปีที่แล้ว +215

    This is my first Porsche. Was relatively affordable. Love it. 3 years on, definitely not even close to thinking of selling it.

    • @keithjackson4985
      @keithjackson4985 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Good for you man. Enjoy. Plan to buy one in the future. Not ready just yet, but one day. I wish you success.

    • @HeyhitmeBAM
      @HeyhitmeBAM ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How was it affordable?

    • @joeracer302
      @joeracer302 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@HeyhitmeBAM they said “relatively affordable” not “affordable”

    • @HeyhitmeBAM
      @HeyhitmeBAM ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joeracer302 ohhhh ok. Lol

    • @Philly5G
      @Philly5G ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you buy this from Strasse in Leeds Luke? If so, I think I drove it 3 years ago 😎

  • @RaviFernandez
    @RaviFernandez ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Hey James, I’ve had my 997.1 for 12 years with 162k on the clock now! And couldn’t part with my previous 911, a 993, which I’ve now had for 20 years. That one’s done 104k. Still use the 997 every day and love every minute :-)

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Ravid Fernandez
      This fits my Experience. These are quite reliable!
      I also 100% agree on this being the perfect first 911 to get. I don't know about the UK but here in Germany these are soooooo insanely common on the car marketplace and rather "cheap".I'm sure they will rise in Price but as of now, definitely worth getting.
      These are also very reliable so it's not one of those Cars you can buy "cheap" but then have insane maintenance costs.
      Though i must add that for obvious Reasons here in Germany Maintenance Costs are way cheaper than elsewhere, we got "Porsche-focused" Repair/Work Garages in almost every other Town. So if something goes wrong or something needs to be fixed/replaced, it usually isn't expensive and almost just like bringing your VW to a VW Workshop for work.

    • @amac8487
      @amac8487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chartreux1532 what’s funny about your comment, is that here in America, VW is actually pretty darn expensive for service as well hahaha. I know what you meant though :p

    • @johneaton25
      @johneaton25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ Ravi. Hey Ravi what has been the running costs of the 997.1 over the years and at this high mileage? Thanks 😎

    • @gnaegi444
      @gnaegi444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A road queen ! Bravo !

    • @Zanzabar5
      @Zanzabar5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm getting a 997.1 tomorrow morning. Can't wait and love to hear the miles you're getting out of it.

  • @VS-qd5qw
    @VS-qd5qw ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Finally the 997.1 C2S gets some appreciation. Its the right size, great 6-speed gearbox, enough power and you can actually feel the road beneath you - price is stupidly low, better than ANY standard newer 911s. All it needs is a nice touch screen to bring it into 2022. (Owner for 13 years).

    • @callummccubbing4506
      @callummccubbing4506 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. There are obviously the PCCM+ for 997.2 with apple car play but I guess putting that into a .1 wouldn't look too out of place?

    • @garoglasser
      @garoglasser ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The good news is Porsche are bring out a new Apple play headset for the 997 that was supposed to be out later this year and is on my shopping list, I know you can buy other ones to fit but I will wait for the original version but I will need to replace the speakers as the are not the best.

    • @prestonjuvenal1739
      @prestonjuvenal1739 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ordered the PCCM+ to update the com system wi h apple car play, but no Bluetooth. Best upgrade, DSC sport controller for PASM suspension….the cheaper 997 C2 Tip.

  • @BAC_Mono
    @BAC_Mono ปีที่แล้ว +60

    James, this is spot on. A couple of months ago I sold my much loved (and totally reliable) BMW 650i and bought a 997.1 manual. It's everything I imagined a Porsche should be, and I really can't imagine the new ones being any better. It's been to Center Gravity (yes that is the correct spelling, it's the best place to go for 911 setup and well worth the £350 or so it costs, you also get a full mechanical inspection) for a Geo setup and drives fantastically well. It's not better than my other 'fun' road car (a 1991 Honda NSX) but is very complimentary. It's so small and well proportioned for todays cramped roads and the drive train is so refined.. As a daily driver it's just about perfect. I use mine as a daily driver. £30 to replace the sticky ac switches and £140 to fit a bluetooth receiver and it's everything you need.
    Don't fuss about the bore scoring issues and just get one is my advice to anyone wondering. PS you can inspect the cam deviation data to see whether your IMS bearing is likely to fail, so it's not as much of an issue as people think. Also fitting a low temperature thermostat can reduce the risks apparently.
    (BMW 650i and then this, some say I like living dangerously!)

    • @joeracer302
      @joeracer302 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If the engine has an issue just bite the bullet and call up Vision Motorsports for a 4.0L stroker. When purchasing the car mentally set aside some funds for this eventuality and you’ll be happy when it comes time.

  • @The.Mr.M
    @The.Mr.M ปีที่แล้ว +12

    6 year owner of a 997.1 C2S, love the car and have recently considered selling. Watching this video reminds me why I love it so much. DSC controller, bilstein coilovers, exhaust and a few other updates has really brought the car to a special driving experience.

  • @andyfriar9599
    @andyfriar9599 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I've had my 2008 997.1 C2S for 3+ years and it's been excellent. They are cheap to look after if you use the extensive specialist network, and if you're inclined, they are easy to work on with advice from the thriving owner community including on YT. It also hasn't depreciated anywhere near the rate of everything else I've owned (recent used car market madness acknowledged)

  • @qikqbn77
    @qikqbn77 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Have had a 997.1 C4S for over 12 years now. Have put almost 100k miles on it. Love it to bits. I have driven the newer ones and to me, they are not worth the trade in, upgrade and price. The 997 still checks a lot of boxes for me and still exciting to drive every time I jump in to it and go for redline. With a few mods it can really dial in the sharpness and excitement even more. No plans to sell. It's a keeper. The early 997's are 17 years old now. Name any other car that is 17 years old, drives like this and some how will never need a possible engine refresh in the future. There are none. Point being, ALL cars will need some TLC at some point in their life if they are driven as designed and bring the owner great joy while doing it. Glad to see you give the 997 some love and respect. Keep up the good work .

    • @j.1985
      @j.1985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      S2000 perhaps?

  • @psantangeli
    @psantangeli ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Drove an 87 Carrera cab for 20 years. Moved to a high milage 997.1 C2S cab a couple of years ago. Just crazy how they managed to keep all the great things about the older cars but make is a totally modern experience too. Love it to bits.

  • @analogguy5548
    @analogguy5548 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m the anti-new car - car guy. I’m 75 and my 2018 Mustang GT PP1 is my 5th car. I have always paid cash, as in NO CAR LOANS. This doesn’t mean I don’t love cars - I loved all my cars & I love taking care of them. Something very satisfying about driving a great drivers car with 200,000 + miles. In all those years the only on road break down was my 1970, heavily modified & raced VW Beetle - My buddy and I were able to replace the blow engine with a replacement from a wrecked VW on a Saturday afternoon! That said I enjoy all your videos - Happy motoring.

  • @joe718gt4
    @joe718gt4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was a dream car for me back then... such a great refresh after the 996

  • @jasonasher9644
    @jasonasher9644 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A few weeks ago I bought a 2006 Carrera S Guards Red/Natural Brown and pick it up Wednesday. My first Porsche.

    • @ism671
      @ism671 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulations ! enjoy 👍

    • @danrook5757
      @danrook5757 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats Jason, drive safely

  • @CarMadElliot
    @CarMadElliot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad also bought one of these when I was a boy in 2006 and went on track days, many memories. Place in my heart for the 997.1C2S too

  • @Porsche_911_Experience
    @Porsche_911_Experience ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The best first Porsche 911 is the one you can afford. My first one was a 996 Targa. Loved it once I got in it-Still have it 3 years later and added a 997 Turbo 6 months later

  • @mr.13zn83
    @mr.13zn83 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also went to Stuttgart, at the time they also had a special order factory . When I arrived they were just completing special order work on the Oman Royal Bodyguard's Fleet of cars , they were Lambo LM002 . Quite a sight all lined up with the Royal Crest on the side !

  • @nelsonclub7722
    @nelsonclub7722 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Porsche now do an entertainment upgrade package for many older Porsches - not sure what cost but Apple Carplay etc - I did and it was so worth it - brings it up to date tech wise

  • @chrisroden4098
    @chrisroden4098 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve owned one for 2 years, 2005 C2S in silver, PSE, PASM, love it more now than the day I got it…..hard to think of anything to replace it with, review is spot on

  • @MrElnuno
    @MrElnuno ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I bought my 997.2 in 2015 while living in London, and loved it so much I shipped it back to Australia with me when I returned home. The car still sits in my garage today and is going beautifully. To be honest I can't really imagine selling it ever such a great car that it is...

    • @eightfivetwohk13
      @eightfivetwohk13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was the process getting the car into Aussie straight forward and did you get stung by the taxman?

    • @MrElnuno
      @MrElnuno ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eightfivetwohk13 yes it was fairly easy using a Aussie based broker who does all the paperwork but tax is quite hefty. You need to factor this into your buy price

    • @eightfivetwohk13
      @eightfivetwohk13 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrElnuno I guessed as much. The ATO always like their bit on the top.

  • @peteralterskye9661
    @peteralterskye9661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the best utuber By Far covering car reviews - great style, great input - always relevant. Keep up the great work

  • @MultiMarciano
    @MultiMarciano ปีที่แล้ว +3

    once again very nice review and above all the editing and the sound it's spectacular..no doubt you really know what you doing..thanks again

  • @MarJay1980
    @MarJay1980 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm glad you mentioned bore scoring... There are some specialists who won't touch a 3.8 gen 1 997 because the bore scoring is almost inevitable. IMS is definitely overblown I think, although it's impossible to know if it will or will not happen on any given early car.
    Either way, I paid quite a bit more for a 997.2 C4S manual. I wanted a 2 but I couldn't find one with the spec and colour I wanted, so I settled for the 4. I'm told the .2 4s has a different 4 wheel drive system to the .1 and puts much less power to the front wheels on a routine basis, only shoving torque their way when needed. I have experienced such a situation when I managed to aquaplane my car... The car did sort it out but it took a moment and I was... concerned. Still, I'm glad of the safety net, and the car is immense fun. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly disappointed with the overall performance, but I have a 1000cc motorcycle for that so nothing short of a McLaren would impress on 4 wheels. The porker has a different more subtle appeal; it worms it's way into your affections. I absolutely adore mine. I love the looks, I love the way it goes around corners, I love the interior, I love the smell, I love the way it makes me feel. I'm not so big on the maintenance costs, but I found a tame specialist who I really like and so it's not thrown me too many big bills (a/c condensers... ouch!) Great vid James, as always. You did get a bit lambasted on some porsche groups for your 997 turbo review, but there's no pleasing some people and it seems you've redeemed yourself with this. Say nice things about 997.1s and the internet 997 massive will love you.

    • @MarJay1980
      @MarJay1980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (oh, and my last car I had for 11 years, it was a 130i with the Birds suspension kit and M3 lower arms. Nothing short of the Porsche could tempt me out of it which is high praise for a hatchback!)

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks J, glad you enjoyed it & had good memories to! 🙏

  • @richardstoddard6647
    @richardstoddard6647 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bought my 997.1 about three years ago. It’s a keeper. It’s red with gold wheels and Porsche script down the side. You drive most other cars, but you pilot these. Great vid. 👏👏

  • @TheDayisMineTrebeck
    @TheDayisMineTrebeck ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just picked up a 2008 s 6spd last month with 51k miles. Had a fabspeed performace package and a classic rs mini ducktail spoiler installed. With roughly 400bhp now, it's so much engaging car to drive than our previous e92 M3. My wife loves rowing the gears through the country roads of upstate GA. I don't think we'll ever sell it; an absolutely perfect weekend car.

  • @barefootdriver5152
    @barefootdriver5152 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10 years now with an x51, 130000km done by me and 100% reliable. Dam Jay, I thought I had a well kept secret 😳

  • @Matt77346
    @Matt77346 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My first Porsche was a 2006 997.1 C2S manual in Guards Red and it was fantastic. This car started my love of the brand. I'm now onto my 5th Porsche and currently enjoying a pristine 987.2 Cayman S manual. You just cant go wrong in a Porsche. I also LOVED my 996 C4S, headlights and all. Great cars...

    • @luciengutierrez431
      @luciengutierrez431 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of these 3 you mentioned here, which do you prefer for driving experience and in what transmission?

    • @Matt77346
      @Matt77346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@luciengutierrez431 All of these cars were in manual. I had a PDK in a Panamera GTS and it was good but I prefer manual, its just more engaging for me. The 987.2 S with the MA1 engine is going to be more reliable overall IMO than either the 996 or 997.1 which may have rare but potential IMS or bore score issues. Neither of those issues should scare a buyer, really just need to take it into consideration and do a good inspection. The feel of the Cayman is "lighter" and more playful than the 911's and the 996/997 is more planted leaving a corner and arguably the better long distance cruiser. The sensation of speed is higher in the Cayman and it is more nimble/agile feeling. Honestly, it has the best actual driving experience out of the 3 IF you prefer a raw and more engaging drive. The 996 C4S is second only because it feels heavier and the 997.1 is third, because it is more refined than the 996 so not quite as raw, IMO. Hope this help!

  • @coreykononchuk
    @coreykononchuk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It made a perfect first 911, and second 911, too! I had nearly-identical spec 2005 997S manual coupes. Loved those cars, but I don't know that I could stomach the $20k average price increase following the pandemic. I was lucky to get both of mine with low-ish miles under $40k USD and neither one needed any major repairs.

  • @shawnmungur4875
    @shawnmungur4875 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3 years is the expected turnaround time for a car!? I've owned my Porsche since 1999! But the 997.1 is the one I would trade for.

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had this very model that I bought new from Porsche Reading in 2006. Silver, blue leather, C2S same carrera alloys. I loved it and only sold it because work took me abroad.

  • @stanl1979
    @stanl1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as ever James. Can only echo the sentiments in the video. Love my 997.1!

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome car. I was looking at one before the prices went to the moon. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @daveg8htfadlibaudio250
    @daveg8htfadlibaudio250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi James, I have one of the very last 997.1 C2 S cars in Cobalt blue and it has only just turned 17000 miles from new but being one of the last it has the 385 hp engine fitted according to the owner's manual, and honestly it makes me smile every time that I drive it, and unless somebody offers me a silly price, I am keeping it.
    Regards
    Dave.

  • @os3990
    @os3990 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Scared of bore scoring. Still want one

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rightly so. Also crankshaft wear, camchain guides wearing out and AOS failures.

    • @danrook5757
      @danrook5757 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought c4s that needed engine re build. Had it upgraded to 4L , now it’s a supercar

    • @os3990
      @os3990 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danrook5757 hartech? Also how much (roughly)

  • @nickmoulton446
    @nickmoulton446 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a 2005 997.1 C2S Cabriolet. It was great, for 3 years. Swapped it for a V8 vantage & regretted it. Somehow I still had the 997, so sold the Vantage. Now got a 991.2

    • @Jonathan-do1sj
      @Jonathan-do1sj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whyd you regret it? Thinking about "upgrading" to a V8 sports car ( Ftype, Vantage, etc.)

    • @nickmoulton446
      @nickmoulton446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jonathan-do1sj the automated manual gearbox is seldom smooth especially at manoeuvring speeds, the engine failed & needed to be replaced, the car was absent for 4 months, I still had the 997 as I wanted something to drive. When the vantage came back & I needed to choose (space limitations) it was no contest. The best place to be when a vantage drives by is on the pavement watching

  • @AndrewDobie
    @AndrewDobie ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey James - I've just purchased my first 911, a 997.1 C2S, which I purchased through Charles and Dean. So big thanks to you for your great 997 reviews (which helped decide between this and an Evora S) and your endorsement of Charles and Dean!

  • @JeffA_
    @JeffA_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    still in 😍 with my 08 C2S three years on. A great blend of old and new 911. A reasonably priced 911 for a 1st...at least it used to be.

  • @thenovello-pugh
    @thenovello-pugh ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a Hartech engined C2. Great car and a keeper. I've been lucky enough to have owned and driven various fast Beemers, Audis, Fords and Evos, but for me there is just something about the 911...

    • @alkoma4586
      @alkoma4586 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever driven a c6 corvette?

  • @tryingnottokilleachother8456
    @tryingnottokilleachother8456 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Be lucky if I keep a car more than 9 months. I've owned a 997 C2S and kept it for 6 months. The handling was amazing but the fear of bore scoring was enough to move it on. That and the occasional puff of smoke from the left tailpipe was the end of our relationship. Managed to reach 183mph on the Speedo but at speed it felt like it could jump between lanes.

    • @paulcampbell114
      @paulcampbell114 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My 997.1 feels terrifying at high speed think it's the light front end

    • @tryingnottokilleachother8456
      @tryingnottokilleachother8456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulcampbell114 I've heard that the gen 1 gt3's are the same. Gen 2 has revised aero.

    • @mickwhytee4
      @mickwhytee4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anything over 155mph the 996 & 997s feel very light on the front … anyone else think that…

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc ปีที่แล้ว

      183 indicated isnt bad. That surely is more or less the top speed. I can report 180 indicated in a 957 is rock solid though, to the surprise of no one...

    • @GeneGatech
      @GeneGatech ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aerokit (XXA) does much better at high speeds.

  • @justinmaccreery2490
    @justinmaccreery2490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video. Cheers from across the pond in Charlotte, NC

  • @Harley-ir4er
    @Harley-ir4er ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video - I have the Convertible Sport Chrono version - Love that Porsche returned them to the round headlights.

  • @LCculater
    @LCculater 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jay love your reviews ! I think you are the best of them all .

  • @SportsandGT
    @SportsandGT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was going to get the 997.1 C2 non S which would have been my first 911. Decided on another car completely but the 997 is still on my “one day” list.

  • @jazzragu
    @jazzragu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Following M2 ownership, this was my first Porsche a couple of years ago and it was a daily. Delightful! Always started up and pretty reliable. Used a lot of oil so and had a few other issues so 3 weeks out of action, but then worked delightfully again. Changed into a 718 Cayman S subsequently- as needed something with updated infotainment and reliability for daily. Good review, and I agree about the lobster claws- they looked epic on 997.1 CS. I had blue extended leather but worked well with exterior colour.

    • @jazzragu
      @jazzragu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the sports exhaust switch… and that noise was a riot! I remember clutch being incredibly heavy (felt like my knee was going to wear out) but I suspect the clutch spring was wearing out.

  • @iconicon5642
    @iconicon5642 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ten years! - had my Volvo 240 Turbo SE Estate for 17 years. Brilliant as wardrobe, student digs, removal vehicle and for taking stuff to markets.

  • @DoubleOSeven007
    @DoubleOSeven007 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first Porsche too. Absolutely love it. The ‘steering’ is very noticeably better than anything else.

  • @AAlx77
    @AAlx77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this great review!
    You need to try an E46 M3 CSL to change your mind on that model as well.

  • @radworldgarage
    @radworldgarage ปีที่แล้ว

    just got mine a month ago! been a blast so far; gonna start building it soon, im very excited.

  • @RavenElegance
    @RavenElegance ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have three cars (Windom, Airtrek turbo and Celica), which I have kept for 16, 9, and 5 years respectively.

  • @lbco5229
    @lbco5229 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got a 997.1 S Cab manual - I LOVE IT! I drove a 991 last year and didn’t notice enough of a difference to desire the newer model.

  • @prestigecarenthusiast4413
    @prestigecarenthusiast4413 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same colour as my c2s. I got my bore scoring checked for £170 plus vat. No issues. Love my car and drives superbly. Excellent video...!

  • @usynnstradler
    @usynnstradler ปีที่แล้ว

    This was and is my first porsche 911 that I got in 2020. Still got it. Love it

  • @dickie997
    @dickie997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had mine for 18 years, still love it. Done 50 track days in it, awesome.

  • @tomphillips6867
    @tomphillips6867 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have just bought one.... love It, its already had the donk rebuilt by Hartech and its good to start fettling with.

  • @Ztandard32
    @Ztandard32 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bought a 997.2 over 4 years ago and so far it costs less to run than my Skoda Fabia. Looks great and wonderful to drive. It's a keeper.

    • @ruimpinho
      @ruimpinho ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How does that work out?
      Lower depreciation?

    • @Ztandard32
      @Ztandard32 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ruimpinho
      Service is every other year for the 997.
      Nothing has gone wrong with the 997. The Skoda is much newer by the way.
      Insurance is about the same.
      Road tax is a little more for the 997.
      Depreciation on both cars is pretty low at the moment.
      I am assuming this won't last forever, but even if I had a big bill it would be worth it.

  • @johnchan5356
    @johnchan5356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also own a 997.1 since 2005 and its a C2S as well. This is the best valued 911

  • @ThatRosco458
    @ThatRosco458 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love to see a review of the Targa. I really like the huge roof and opening rear hatch, but wonder if there's any noticeable difference driving

  • @kiwihame
    @kiwihame ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. You can check for bore-scoring with an oil analysis kit.

  • @PaulLukeBonenfant
    @PaulLukeBonenfant ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This car has always been peak porsche in my opinion. I bought a 996 to restore because of price range, but early in the year I “met my hero” through a friend who owned one of these, in a similar color at that (also 40k miles). It was phenomenal as a package. The steering was vibrant with feeling, the engine sounded perfect fully stock, and the PASM was a super modern and helpful touch. It felt like a way more daily usable and faster version of my 996. That being said, I flew back home a few days later and hopped in my little 996 (granted with some track modifications), and I felt the exact opposite of buyers remorse. Nonetheless, I still wish I got more time in that car, and I hope to have one in the future to go along with my 996.

  • @tayecannon
    @tayecannon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got an 07’ 997 during covid when the prices were down. Best decision. Runs like a top and a dream to drive

  • @davocc2405
    @davocc2405 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need to crowd-fund a trip for James to fly to Australia to review some cars - perhaps starting with a Porsche 718 Spyder? I can tell you first hand - the spiders can be bigger than your hand actually, Huntsmans loooooove car reviewers. They love reviewers so much they want to hug your face!

  • @user-qm4xf4ob4t
    @user-qm4xf4ob4t 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 1992 964 C2 cab, and a2008 997.1 4S. Both different cars but with the same dedication to the driver and quality of build. Love both! Never selling. Couldn't wish for a better 1-2 punch!

  • @ajcball
    @ajcball ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had 997.1 c2s 2005 for 3 years. Costs about 2k a year to run. Handily gone up by same amount! I love it, though its black which is my least favourite colour on these. Scoring does worry me so I get annual oil change. Just had new clutch, drives much better 😎

  • @georgeapplegate2091
    @georgeapplegate2091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've not been on your channel for a while, life kinda just got in the way. What an outstanding review and car to come back to 👍. My eyes are now wandering from the m2 a little . . .

    • @georgeapplegate2091
      @georgeapplegate2091 ปีที่แล้ว

      PS what a lucky lad you were. Back in 1995 my dad bought one of the first Audi a4's I to the UK. 💤

  • @seinsmeld13
    @seinsmeld13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Duncan for your ride.

  • @jerdonsbabbler3515
    @jerdonsbabbler3515 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had it. Loved it. 997 C2S cab was beyond fun.

  • @scottsanders2641
    @scottsanders2641 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love mine and may never get rid of it!
    Got lucky finding a one owner ‘08 C4S
    w 25k miles.
    Added a 1 in drop w Eibach’s and plan to do cats,headers, and ecu to get me 400 HP at the crank.
    Perfect little normally aspirated ripper

  • @larrygerfen2801
    @larrygerfen2801 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You review a lot of vehicles and cover most elements with not a lot of fuss. Great presentation. As a 6 footer and wide shoulders I’d like to know your opinion of interior sitting conditions, such as head, shoulder room, and seat extension for longer legs.

  • @mattmanslim
    @mattmanslim ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe Nicholas Found of Retail Economics (previously Retail Week) would suggest the optional sports exhaust to release the best of the 3.8.

    • @nicholasfound
      @nicholasfound ปีที่แล้ว

      The optional PSE is a match made in heaven, as James also suggested. Fantastic review @Jay Emm on Cars

  • @frohnnielsen
    @frohnnielsen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the identical car to this (except the steering wheel is on the other side). I too have owned it for 10 years. I sometimes think of trading it in for something else, but then I go for a drive! Best thing I ever did was to install the OEM sports exhaust. Transforms the driving experience despite not adding an iota of power.

  • @elbeano3748
    @elbeano3748 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have a 993 Targa and if coming back into Porsche ownership I'd get a 997.1, it's a lovely car

  • @strongerandwiser2023
    @strongerandwiser2023 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had the IMS bearing issue with mine. 15k bill for a new shortblock. I have to say I was absolutely livid because the damn thing had just had 3k spent on it replacing the rear shocks and a few other bits on the exhaust system.

  • @evansanchez4767
    @evansanchez4767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i would only look at a porsche with a black interior. (had 3 with black). but the blue on blue on this is lovely

  • @JBsC6
    @JBsC6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review . Thank you

  • @nonamenameless5495
    @nonamenameless5495 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad still has his first Porsche, a 964. According to our Porsche Center, there s very few 1 owner cars of this gen out there...and I somehow wish he hadn t sold his 993 to a friend who still has it btw. I still have my first new car (A3, 2nd gen) and I love it, it s closer to my heart than my Cayman tbh and it s close to mint condition like my dad s good old 964 but unlike his, my investment to keep it that way didn t really make economical sense lol.

  • @niallmcmahon8748
    @niallmcmahon8748 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bought my 997.1 c2s in may last year as a stop gap whilst I waited for the Emira to come out. Now I'm not sure I can sell it. It's bloody marvelous. So involving, precise and simultaneously useable. I think I prefer it to my previous Noble, Tuscan and certainly my 996TT. Surprised there is no mention here of the delicious kick you get at around 5.5k - almost like a cam profile change. Surely it's not just mine? Exhaust bypass is an affordable alternative to a sports system and sounds wonderful if you take it to the right people (H&S).

    • @Nb61777
      @Nb61777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m in the market for a 997 or an Emira as well! I love how the Emira looks but it is also a brand new car and I’d think Porsche has perfected their craft at this point.
      Did you think about a newer Cayman? Similar price to the 997 but newer, less miles.

  • @francoisbalavoine1316
    @francoisbalavoine1316 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great great video and insights!

  • @toddkvamme
    @toddkvamme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 85K miles on my 2007. About 2000 of those miles are track miles. The car is a rock. Oh...and this car is even more brilliant with Bilstein PSS10's installed (or "fitted" as y'all like to say 🙂 )

  • @maxmartin-merrells3723
    @maxmartin-merrells3723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad made bank in 2006 and bought one of these new. Two years later he swapped it for a cabriolet and had owned it ever since. It’s white and sexy as hell. Meanwhile mum still drives her Toyota Corolla😅 prices are rising for these in Aus and we are all begging him not to sell it but he says he needs the money. Sad times. Great car, sounds mega and looks sexy on the road especially with the roof down 🤤

  • @cervelo9465
    @cervelo9465 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keeping a car for 5 or 10 years is simply good practice.
    997 gen 1, very serious potential issues with bore score and IMS.
    911 is a good lifetime car.
    These standard cars do look very mild.
    In my showroom I had a 997 4S and a 996 Turbo and they were both very nice cars.
    The 996 Turbo very noisy in the cabin when being used at higher speeds.

    • @gregs8685
      @gregs8685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would take a Mezger-engined 996 turbo over a 3.8L 997.1 any day. 997s may look nice but the 3.8L M97 engines are ticking time bombs that in most cases will cost half the value of the car to fix.

  • @grivoc
    @grivoc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got a 997.1 Carrera 2. It's been great. Over three years I've done a shifter cable, battery terminal cable and water pump. Nothing too extreme. And everything I've done myself has been very easy (especially oil changes). And of course it's been an absolute joy to drive.

  • @flat6croc
    @flat6croc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Extended leather was standard on all 997 Carreras in the UK. Base and S.

  • @samdavinchi1624
    @samdavinchi1624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if I'm a record holder, but I bought my Golf TDI 15 years ago (2007) and I'm still driving it.👌🍀

    • @timprice5
      @timprice5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with my '07 B6 Passat! Now also own an '06 Boxster S 3.2 - they are an excellent pairing. One is practical and a mile mucher, one is a well balanced sports car. Perfect budget 2 car garage

  • @aplanedividedthesky
    @aplanedividedthesky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I seem to collect unloved models. Over the years, I ended up with a 348ts and a 996tt in my shed.

    • @ism671
      @ism671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too ! You get more value for money,and if you keep it long enough,will make money...Still regret selling my 348 tb challenge bought it in 2000 for £25k sold it in 2006 for £25k now worth £75-80k 😪

  • @SciroccoThePunisher
    @SciroccoThePunisher ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Natural aspirated,manual and rear wheel drive sports car ,best fun to drive car!

  • @kellinpatler
    @kellinpatler ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my 997.1 C2S in November of 2017. Prior to owning it, I would rotate through “fun” cars nearly every year. It does so many things well, that I haven’t found anything to replace it! So - I’m going to ADD an air-cooled 911 to the mix, for a different experience.

  • @jermainerobinson7098
    @jermainerobinson7098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this guys reviews he keeps you interested he was born
    To do this job he reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson in he’s golden years. Great review keep them coming hope you get a tv break one day 👏🏽👍🏽👊🏽🥂

  • @moootaable
    @moootaable 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love mine ❤ its a 2 s with 110 000 it’s been upgraded with a wide body 4s conversion by me and a 991 exhaust third radiator lowered etc it’s a work in progress and just keeps getting better

  • @britboy70
    @britboy70 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to change cars every 6 months or so until I bought a Boxster S brand new in 2002. I kept that car for 10 years while I rotated through SUV's as my second car. I eventually had to sell it as I inherited a word with 2 kids and I needed extra seats and got a 3 series convertible that I also had for about 10 years until my daughter totaled it 😥

    • @ruimpinho
      @ruimpinho ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Time for another porsche, but hide the keys somewhere else :)

  • @Stormy177
    @Stormy177 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You've reviewed so many cars that you could probably do comparison videos for various makes and models (maybe splicing bits of previous videos together). For example:
    Which Aston Martin to buy?
    The differences between the 997 models you've reviewed
    996 Vs 997 - spec for spec comparison (e.g. 996 C4S vs 997 C4S)
    Grand Tourers - Aston vs Jag vs Porsche (vs. Ferrari)

  • @ARentz07
    @ARentz07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny how you started the video with that part about keeping a 997.1 for 10 years - my uncle's had his 997.1 Carrera 2 for well over 10 years now. He's not been compelled to trade up into a new one yet!

  • @davidmoore6172
    @davidmoore6172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review alot of love for the gen one 997. If your reading the comments Duncan, do not sell it what a great example looks handsome in Midnight Blue👍😍

  • @Christian---
    @Christian--- ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to see more content about baser models of all sorts of Porsches, manual or auto since apparently the tiptronics are now said to be very good pieces aswell.

    • @mrktplayer
      @mrktplayer ปีที่แล้ว

      Tiptronic is slow but very robust transmission

  • @garoglasser
    @garoglasser ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi James I have had a few air cooled 911 and a 996 C4S but my 997S.1 is far better and I have owned it for seven years and still enjoy driving it every time. In my opinion they are very cheap for what they are they and be used every day. They as docile as a VW Golf at low revs but drop a cog and stamp the loud pedal and it shifts with a perfect power to weight ration and as a normally aspirated car the linear power is so precise. They are not to expensive therefore a good buy because even if the car market fell they would only drop a little but either way in time they will definitely increase once they are appreciated for the car that they are. Thanks Tom

  • @afonsovieira5608
    @afonsovieira5608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Esse carro é maravilhoso.
    Com esse câmbio manual, é tudo de
    bom.

  • @frederickschulze8014
    @frederickschulze8014 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:33 The bushings being creaky probably explains the steering. I'm sure with all new bushings, it would feel super crisp like the other 911s.

  • @johnfazackerley6951
    @johnfazackerley6951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2 s is still great in tiptronic form,provided that the sports chrono pack is present.It really makes a great difference...

    • @ism671
      @ism671 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently so,even those without it can have the software retrofitted/uploaded it seems available in the US but not sure about here (GB). .

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice vid Jay. Now you need to add a C2S X51 pack to the list of vids to round it all out. The X51 doesn’t look like much on paper, but she was underrated by the factory and the parts list is both extensive and interesting to say the least.

    • @charliehyde5493
      @charliehyde5493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brilliant brilliant cars!

    • @TheMusicFan1297
      @TheMusicFan1297 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My grandfather had one and it went like a rocket on the Autobahn 😌

    • @WFOSA67
      @WFOSA67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had one it was fantastic!

  • @markhall9007
    @markhall9007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m picking up my first Porsche 911 Carrera 2 tomorrow. It’s a 2004 convertible, it only has 61,000 miles, but it’s Awesome baby!!!!!

  • @TheDentist27
    @TheDentist27 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put an apple car play touch screen in the radio, other OEM replacements: headlights, suspension, tires, steering wheel, e-brake, and sun visors, just to make the car feel fresh. Pretty well ticks all my car boxes.

  • @mkc1rrc
    @mkc1rrc ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great Por-sha video!! Thanks for that. One thing I did notice and maybe it's just new to me, but nearly too many adverts to make the viewing experience enjoyable. Seems like more channels are filling with adverts and if I have to watch another Tom Brady Hertz 'Let's Go' commercial, I will admit myself straight into the asylum. Thanks again though and if you choose a less-monetized option, might differentiate you amongst the rest. Anyway, thanks again and keep those Por-sha videos coming!!

  • @brandonchism6960
    @brandonchism6960 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I haven’t watched yet, but this is where I started. I still see it as one of the best versions without paying for a GT model. Edit: I did suffer an IMS bearing failure on my 3.8, but it was covered by an aftermarket warranty. Only paid the deductible on a $23k engine replacement and labor job.

    • @milchomarkov8158
      @milchomarkov8158 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did that happen? Warranty on an IMS?

    • @brandonchism6960
      @brandonchism6960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@milchomarkov8158 great question. I bought my 2007 C2S in 2015 from a Porsche dealer. I asked for warranty options. Since the car was too old for Porsche certification, the dealership offered a third party warranty with varying levels of protection and lengths. I chose one with something like 4 years and 60k miles at over $4k plus the cost of the car. I considered it expensive, but I wasn’t going to buy a used 997.1 without a safety net. Less than 20k miles later, my engine grenaded. I made a claim, they launched an investigation, and ultimately paid for the replacement engine and labor. My mechanic changed my clutch as well for cost since he was already pulling the entire engine and trans.

    • @milchomarkov8158
      @milchomarkov8158 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandonchism6960 lucky as hell! daily driving a 2000 986 S w 90k miles out here, still thinking of the ims from time to time.

    • @brandonchism6960
      @brandonchism6960 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milchomarkov8158 that engine could have the mod done without doing a complete teardown. I’m not sure if you have a Porsche mechanic, but check with one to get some pricing options. There’s a few vids on TH-cam from people who had the mod done and are driving their cars worry free.