Great video and thanks for the shoutout Steve. Worth mentioning as well in regards to those dragy times, both were tested on the same day and same (private) road, all on low boost files for as close comparisons, as you can see they pretty much performed identically. Both good inductions, but agree with Steve. Don’t personally see the ITG to be restrictive in terms of not being able to get air 😀
Great video, Steve! Personally I’d love to see more intake comparisons with the Standard or ST200/Mountune box to see if the closed/panel filters keep up with the more expensive intakes such as the ITG, Revo, Airtec etc.
The thing i've noticed most about increasing the performance is actually decreasing resistance. I had a standard airbox and a paper panel filter when i first got the car. I obviously put a K&N panel filter in straight away and struggled to notice hardly any difference. I then cut away the bottom part which sits near the boost pipes that come from the cold side of the intercooler. This made the most difference as i actually noticed a difference. And all i did was reduce the restriction which allowed the Turbo to pull more air. Now all a induction kit does is exactly this however there is down sides a standard induction kit will heat soak slightly. The ITG is designed to avoid this being under the headlight. I've got the SD induction kit which is actually quite good. I noticed a slight increase from my modified stock airbox however on hotter days i do notice it heat soaks as performance does drops slightly when intake temps hit top 30s on hard pulls. So i fabricate my own heat shield and also a mini heat shield which sits where the corner of where the rad is just under where the stock airbox air feed attaches. As alot of heat is kicked off around here. This helped lower the heat soak as i saw a noticeable reduction in intake temps vs ambient temps.
I've had the itg for 4 months now I bought it second hand with a secondary hose for £150. I'd notice a difference straight away compared to the mountune air box I had. I'd recommend the itg its a good bit of kit and sounds insane. My fiesta will going stage two after lockdown. Another great vid btw.
Great video, the string is old school but sure way of proving air flow. The heat from the engine bay is not usually an issue as cold air moves the heat away and out of the engine bay. The charge temps do increase when you increasing the boost on a OEM turbo as you saw in the summer track day. By fitting the larger intercooler you have offset the increased temperatures when the ambient temperature is hotter in summer. Give the filter a clean and then apply the sealent as I think the ITG is not a dry filter ( not certain on this point).
I never understood this argument about where the placement is and about it not getting enough flow. You have to think of the intake as a straw in the bottom of a glass. Push it flat against the bottom and you get no fluid through it. Raise it just a tiny bit and you get full flow through it. When you look at the itg for flow you cannot incorporate the actual foam section. If you were to remove all of the foam and just have the backing plate then where that meets the pipe is the end of your straw. So the foam could be right up against the bumper but you still aren’t restricting the flow into the pipe.
Great video Steve, I run an itg had no issues, great sounding and great pulls, I'm even going to feed more air into the itg by fitting a air cold air feed port next to my foglight with a silicone hose angle aiming at the filter. Hopefully more suction will be available, car looks great by the way
I think a lot of people talk about stuff they don't know anything about... Even if the filter was partially pressed against the bumper, as long as it was firmly mounted it's not going to suck up against the bumper.
Thank you for this video. Very interesting, real world, test. I'm considering changing the stock air filer on my M140i (itg do one), but the issues I have with this, are : I don't think there is really any performance gain, & I do have worries that more dust particles will end up going through the itg filter compared to the stock one.
A really interesting thing to do is to have the camera filming the filter whilst driving in heavy rain. I have this filter and after washing car the filter gets soaking wet.
Doesn't hurt the car at all getting wet really. I have water injection plumbed in so a little filter water passing though is nothing compared to that 🙃
@@Sparkplugsteve My guess would have been that it should be ok. Lots of people run this kit without issue. Just not so good for my OCD knowing it's getting wet potentially when driving in the wet or washing the car. The kit is amazing though, and sounds much better in person than TH-cam videos sound.
Hello Steve, sorry to return you back to the ST170 topic but do you have some videos of imrc repair or how it actuates internally? And when's gonna be the next video
There's varied opinions on that due to the turbo heating up the air anyway. Some think flow and volume is more important. But the pics from Jordan include the iat
Thats not right thou as the maf sensor is reading the correct air flow. Aet have done a test on both itg and standard st180 or 200 and the itg out performs all the way across the rev range. The new aet larger filter which id bascially an itg copy but larger gives good bhp gains. Also to note that to much airflow can cause the maf sensor to fault read causing limp mode.
@@boostboyfabrications4499 I'm not saying it's reading the wrong measurement. What I mean is if you put one intake on the car then for example the SD intake on the car and do a pull in the ambient temp and conditions, then take the MAF reading, that will tell you which one is better
good video, wouldn't a air flow meter be better.? But the filter seems fine, I image its not optimal, but I recon its better than one in hot engine bay.
The airflow itself on an open filter isn't as important imo as it will take as much as air as the turbo is taking and the air will come from the path of least resistance. I would be more interested in the air temp as I always thought it would be taking in hot/warm engine bay air. Also any air flow and temps would be different and different speeds. Probably gets too technical lol.
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I got an itg on my clio 182 its been on it for 12 years+! Still sounds and works amazing! The best aftermarket filter ive ever had! Had K&n and others...
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Great video and thanks for the shoutout Steve. Worth mentioning as well in regards to those dragy times, both were tested on the same day and same (private) road, all on low boost files for as close comparisons, as you can see they pretty much performed identically. Both good inductions, but agree with Steve. Don’t personally see the ITG to be restrictive in terms of not being able to get air 😀
Great video, Steve! Personally I’d love to see more intake comparisons with the Standard or ST200/Mountune box to see if the closed/panel filters keep up with the more expensive intakes such as the ITG, Revo, Airtec etc.
The thing i've noticed most about increasing the performance is actually decreasing resistance. I had a standard airbox and a paper panel filter when i first got the car. I obviously put a K&N panel filter in straight away and struggled to notice hardly any difference. I then cut away the bottom part which sits near the boost pipes that come from the cold side of the intercooler. This made the most difference as i actually noticed a difference. And all i did was reduce the restriction which allowed the Turbo to pull more air.
Now all a induction kit does is exactly this however there is down sides a standard induction kit will heat soak slightly. The ITG is designed to avoid this being under the headlight.
I've got the SD induction kit which is actually quite good. I noticed a slight increase from my modified stock airbox however on hotter days i do notice it heat soaks as performance does drops slightly when intake temps hit top 30s on hard pulls.
So i fabricate my own heat shield and also a mini heat shield which sits where the corner of where the rad is just under where the stock airbox air feed attaches. As alot of heat is kicked off around here. This helped lower the heat soak as i saw a noticeable reduction in intake temps vs ambient temps.
Awesome vid Steve. Been wondering how good the itg was and how effective it was but you’ve answered it for us all!
I've had the itg for 4 months now I bought it second hand with a secondary hose for £150. I'd notice a difference straight away compared to the mountune air box I had. I'd recommend the itg its a good bit of kit and sounds insane. My fiesta will going stage two after lockdown. Another great vid btw.
Hi im running the mountune kit 215. Is the itg alot louder?.
@@dobbyboy3116 yeah mate. Its a lot louder 👌
This is exactly what I had before now and how
much I paid 😂😂
It's strange, I think my car seems sluggish compared to the mountune box, it is standard mind you apart from the itg.
More like this Steve! This is the sort of thing I've been looking for. Great video.
Great video, the string is old school but sure way of proving air flow. The heat from the engine bay is not usually an issue as cold air moves the heat away and out of the engine bay. The charge temps do increase when you increasing the boost on a OEM turbo as you saw in the summer track day. By fitting the larger intercooler you have offset the increased temperatures when the ambient temperature is hotter in summer. Give the filter a clean and then apply the sealent as I think the ITG is not a dry filter ( not certain on this point).
I never understood this argument about where the placement is and about it not getting enough flow.
You have to think of the intake as a straw in the bottom of a glass. Push it flat against the bottom and you get no fluid through it. Raise it just a tiny bit and you get full flow through it.
When you look at the itg for flow you cannot incorporate the actual foam section. If you were to remove all of the foam and just have the backing plate then where that meets the pipe is the end of your straw.
So the foam could be right up against the bumper but you still aren’t restricting the flow into the pipe.
And thus ends the debate of the century aha
Probably not lol
Great video Steve, I run an itg had no issues, great sounding and great pulls, I'm even going to feed more air into the itg by fitting a air cold air feed port next to my foglight with a silicone hose angle aiming at the filter. Hopefully more suction will be available, car looks great by the way
I think a lot of people talk about stuff they don't know anything about... Even if the filter was partially pressed against the bumper, as long as it was firmly mounted it's not going to suck up against the bumper.
Another good informative video. If its sucking in even with the internal mesh a clean and re oil is well overdue....
Thank you for this video.
Very interesting, real world, test.
I'm considering changing the stock air filer on my M140i (itg do one), but the issues I have with this, are :
I don't think there is really any performance gain, & I do have worries that more dust particles will end up going through the itg filter compared to the stock one.
Cheers Steve I've just bought one coz this video 👍
Fantastic video Steve looks fine to me
A really interesting thing to do is to have the camera filming the filter whilst driving in heavy rain. I have this filter and after washing car the filter gets soaking wet.
Doesn't hurt the car at all getting wet really. I have water injection plumbed in so a little filter water passing though is nothing compared to that 🙃
@@Sparkplugsteve My guess would have been that it should be ok. Lots of people run this kit without issue. Just not so good for my OCD knowing it's getting wet potentially when driving in the wet or washing the car. The kit is amazing though, and sounds much better in person than TH-cam videos sound.
For the money the sico developments intake is amazing
Yes I agree.
Great video Steve 👍🏻
Hey Steve good video keep them coming. Wha do you think about pipercorss filter just got one for my car fiesta st150 haven't fitted it yet lol
Iv no idea about them to be honest. Thanks.
They work OK I have one on my focus st170
Hi Steve another good informative video some food for thought there. 😁👍
Cheers Steve, interesting video mate.
Hello Steve, sorry to return you back to the ST170 topic but do you have some videos of imrc repair or how it actuates internally?
And when's gonna be the next video
Been enjoying my itg for my US spec Fiesta. No probs. Probably just fanboys fanboying for whatever they have to be the best 🤷🏾♂️
Would you recommend the Airtec and Forge induction kit ? Nice vid as usual 👌🏻
Iv never tried them so don't know sorry. Thanks.
New subscriber. Watched a few videos now. Great content
Nice video easy to follow explanation 👍🍺 stay safe mate
Thanks Steve Interesting Stuff. Whats next ?
Spot on dude 👌🏻
Surely the best measure of an intake is the MAF reading?
There's varied opinions on that due to the turbo heating up the air anyway. Some think flow and volume is more important. But the pics from Jordan include the iat
Thats not right thou as the maf sensor is reading the correct air flow. Aet have done a test on both itg and standard st180 or 200 and the itg out performs all the way across the rev range.
The new aet larger filter which id bascially an itg copy but larger gives good bhp gains. Also to note that to much airflow can cause the maf sensor to fault read causing limp mode.
@@boostboyfabrications4499 I'm not saying it's reading the wrong measurement. What I mean is if you put one intake on the car then for example the SD intake on the car and do a pull in the ambient temp and conditions, then take the MAF reading, that will tell you which one is better
good video, wouldn't a air flow meter be better.? But the filter seems fine, I image its not optimal, but I recon its better than one in hot engine bay.
Hey Steve what’s your opinion on a catch can, was thinking about getting one are they worth it ?
I'm personally in no rush to fit one. I'm happy with the setup as it is.
I'm curious how close the intake filter is on a stock bumper though...
Exactly the same
The airflow itself on an open filter isn't as important imo as it will take as much as air as the turbo is taking and the air will come from the path of least resistance. I would be more interested in the air temp as I always thought it would be taking in hot/warm engine bay air. Also any air flow and temps would be different and different speeds. Probably gets too technical lol.
Hey Steve I see the sim rig behind you. What platform u use mate??
Pc and project cars 2.
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If the ITG is so good, why have AET had to get RAM air to make a new filter that's bigger that requires half the engine bay to be moved?
Are you honestly expecting me to know the answer to that? 😜
@@Sparkplugsteve no but the primary company that push theses intakes have had a £500 kit made up for them so maybe people should think about that also
So your saying buy the £500 kit instead.
That filters manky, you’ll notice a difference with it clean, I clean my k&n once a year and it’s amazing how dirty they get 👍🏻
just out of interest, do you use a proper k&n cleaning kit to clean/oil ur filter or do you have a £ saving alternative method you could share?
@@skybluesam5676 just buy the cleaning kit, cheap from Halfords or eBay 👍🏾
Whats the bhp on your fiesta now steve? Forgive me if u posted before, i can't find the answer! Cheers
I got an itg on my clio 182 its been on it for 12 years+! Still sounds and works amazing! The best aftermarket filter ive ever had! Had K&n and others...
👍
60 à100mph in 5,30sec??? Stage2R pumaspeed..?
No not my car. S280 turbo.
My car feels faster after I cleaned my k & n panel filter after 25k. Get it cleaned I bet you will notice a difference.
them draggy results are within error so no one should look into that any further.
Said verified?
@@Sparkplugsteve Sorry. Within driver error/environmental factors. Just my opinion.
True but there's enough attempts there to get the idea. Their both super close.
You are wasted as a daylight technician. Have you thought of going into teaching? You have a certain je ne sais quoi 👍
Haha thanks
Good Evening Steve.