@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm as soon as she stood to begin cross examination i had to fast forward because i couldn’t stand to hear one more word out of her mouth.
Not necessarily. You can be a great parent and that child can still make his or her own choices. Unfortunately in this circumstance it’s the parents that did fail their child.
@@hollynonya6991That women is horrendous. Yeah her child is a POS.He was the same person asking were his fan mail was.They all will have a jolly old time in prison. Rotting together.And as a father of a 10 year old named Madison, you wouldn't be saying this b.s. it could happen to anyone of it was your child that was blown away.Wake up.
Finally, a defense attorney who makes Alina Habba look good. Along with a mumbling judge who appears to be high on valium and has completely lost control. WOW
Alina Habba is awesome. If you followed transcript of trial and not media accounts you might see that. But it seems like nothing would satisfy your blood lust
@@SlowLew222 LAO. Alina Habba? Good lawyer? ah, ok maga boy. you might have noticed she lost her client 83 million, offended the jury, doesn’t know rules of evidence, and doesn’t know what phase of the trial she’s arguing about - but ok Lew, you know better
They were completely negligent in parenting. They didn’t know about everything in his bedroom what he could be doing in there because they were riding horses while he saw demons.
The majority of families both parents work full time jobs to make ends meet! Often times one of the parents will have two jobs to make ends meet... Life is not easy for most parents!
@@turtletruth but if their kid asks for help from seeing demons, they should have time to help. Maybe if they weren’t paying horse boarding they could’ve afforded a counselor too. My mom was a single mom with 2 jobs! Gtfoh with that
When she texted her lover about the shooting I think that was the night they were fleeing, she said, "I never get to see my horses again?! and said nothing about the dead children!!!! OMFG!!!!
On appeal, judge could be seen as incompetent! She is not making her rulings clear on the objections, she is not saying overruled or sustained! She just turns to the witness and asks the witness a question and lets the prosecutor move on... Sorry not sorry, this judge sucks!
This is more corroboration with the video of the Crumbley's first police interview - - the day of the school shooting incident with their son - - Of Jennifer Crumbley Exhibiting Cold - Non Empathetic - Disconnect with Investigating Officers. She is tense and uncomfortable and very preoccupied with HERSELF. She is NOT CONCERNED about her boy. She Comes Off Very Remote and Judgemental - - Not the right demeanor for a concerned involved parent - - Most Parents Horror Sets In IMMEDIATELY in a PERSONAL WAY - When Their Child Is Found To Have Committed Violence Against Others - - "how could he do that ? ! " "how awful" " I feel terrible" etc etc - - we don't have to have experience of dealing with families of school shooters to tell us THIS IS THE NORMAL WAY AN INVLOVED CONCERNED RESPONSIBLE PARENT RESPONDS. She Is Just Not That - - -She is Remote, She Irresponsible, She Committed Gross Negligence Ignoring the SERIOUSNESS Of her Sons Deteriorating Mental Health.
Personally I don't like the defence attorney either but I suspect they make trials go on days longer than necessary to make more money if they are paid by the hour. Was it legal to give him a gun or not? That's the murder weapon. A grown woman drinking or riding horses etc. is not illegal giving her mentally disturbed teenager a weapon and ignoring the teachers concerns and other red flags potentially was.
What she was doing in spite of the concerning position she found herself in is the most necessary thing. He didn’t just grab the gun while his mother was busy loading up the car for the day & she missed it. She saw him map it all out and decided to go nurture horses. She avoided the situation while entertaining another man. Defense will use her actions to paint the picture that she was too busy to be aware of his mental health
Her son snapped and his actions were more extreme than most of us can even comprehend. He couldn’t be anymore broken & after she didn’t attempt to support or comfort the child she birthed & raised.
It’s important that while her child was reaching out to her about delusions and such she was ignoring him to go horse riding. He tells her about demons and she laughs. The mother seemed to think if she made sure he did his homework she was a good mother. I think the fact she spent no time with him, dismissed his mental health concerns and was focused on herself, her affair and hobbies and didn’t pay attention to how ill, isolated he was, how he has developed an interest in guns while his other hobbies disappeared is highly relevant.
Can somebody be kind enough to buy Shannon a law dictionary, including the pages with definition of "hearsay". Like if one person is in the conversation, relating their own experience of the interaction, by definition, is NOT hearsay. You don't even need to be a lawyer to know, but you probably have to be a reasonably intelligent person, with the ability to grossly reason and analyze, to distinguish what does or doesn't fall in that category. Somehow Shannon missed the boat on all of that.
Watching the trial, I kept thinking of how the defense attorney's demeanor reminded me of something and when she started again with the distracting dry cough, it hit me. I used to work with a woman whose disjointed speaking, histrionics and nervous demeanor practically mirror the attorney and she was addicted to amphetamines. Im in no position to even hazard a guess whether or not the attorney has this issue- she just reminded me of someone who did.
I would think that if the attorney was on something the defendant can file for an appeal due to ineffective counsel or worse. It would be rather difficult to prove that she had illegal substances in her system that long ago but it should be easy enough to prove if she is a chronic abuser. Maybe she's not but if I was in the defendant's shoes I would have been livid with the attorney and begged for effective council that is not a loose cannon who behaves like a cartoon who can't start her day until someone draws her and adds background circus music.
I am beyond outraged of these parents are charged for the actions of their 15-year-old. We’re supposed to be mine readers did they put that gun in his backpack? Did they know that he was gonna commit a mass shooting? No, they did not.
@@tammyirwin703why buy your mentally ill son a gun then? He was depressed and begging for her attention and she was too busy riding horses and having an affair
@@queensade1560 there is no solid proof that he was mentally ill actually during his Miller hearing the psychiatrist said that Ethan didn’t have mental issues because if he would have had mental issues like you are also led to believe his attorney could have went for insanity defense however, they couldn’t because he wasn’t found to have a mental defect that’s how it works here in Michigan people
@@tammyirwin703 No need to read minds. They could have just read his texts and the drawings he had that said "The thoughts won't stop. Help me. Blood everywhere." If you don't think that's a warning sign then I'm terrified of the potential neglect your own children might be going through.
I apologize if It sounded like I blamed the school for not searching his back, not the schools fault. Laws are sometimes set in place that do more harm then good.
The only thing Jennifer and James really did criminally wrong was not securing the guns. If Ethan hadn't done what he did a friend of his could have come over and gotten a gun there. Teenagers ARE wierd and i know as a society we used to have a gun rack in our trucks but its just not that day anymore. Gotta keep those locked up or just not have them. Teen proof the house just like you would baby proof when a baby lived there
I know it’s strange, but myself, siblings and friends all had guns mounted and ready. This shit did not happen…. What is wrong that we have to worry everyday about these kids killing others… I’m older but don’t understand it! What happened to our society? 😢
Considering the entire closing statement from the defense attorney is placing her non-relatable experience throughout a diatribe pleading for the jurors to disreard that the defendant was a neglegent parent at best.
I still don't understand what the text "Ethan, don't do it" was about. Was it timestamped? Did the mom ask that before he shot kids? OR did the mom text that after the shooting. The mom says that was about telling ethan not to shoot himself, right?
She claims that she said it referring to him shooting himself. But I believe she knew he was the one who was going to shoot up the school and she was trying to tell him not to.
She and his dad had already been at the school regarding violent drawings. When she heard about the active shooter, she contacted the dad at home as she was driving to the school and asked where the family ammo was. He said it and the gun were gone. She knew her son was feeling depressed, and he had just texted that he loved her when she said he didn't often express that. She put two and two together and concluded he would hurt himself.
@@peztopher7297 when she heard there was an active shooter, she knew it was her kid. She said don’t do it because she was trying to stop him. Meaning she DID have the knowledge to know her child was a danger to himself and others and this all could have been prevented if she had sought mental health treatment for her son and NOT bought him a gun.
That defense attorney is so annoying It's not even necessarily her argument, it's actually her....her demeanor, her personality, just her. I can't imagine having a conversation with her and not going insane
When police find someone's behavior odd, inappropriate or unusual they certainly have the right to investigate further to see 8f there's anything behind that. However, testifying that someone did behave "normally" or words to that effect, should not affect a jury decision, because law enforcement have no idea how the suspect usually expresses themselves or handles a crisis. And a murder goes beyond stressors usually experienced by anyone. An autistic person, for instance, may not show the emotion we expect. Speaking in general, not only this case and not implying innocence.
Well done to the prosecution! Such a thorough job! Even more well done for Judge to take the time to explain the perimeters of the law so well. Defense: reaching and picking 100% fair enough…
Makes me sick anyone would defend a horrifying event that involved death and life time trama to these families and child just because her so felt like he had nothing in life.
The defence attorney is appalling. Asking the same questions over and over, whining about objections when the type of objections is what she does all the time. Complete hypocrite!! She also speculates and only gives witnesses the option of answering 'correct? ' No open questions... interrupting the closing argument countless times. I've never seen that happen!! It's like she fucking 5!!! I think daddy owns a law firm and she woke up one morning and wanted to be, like, a lawyer today! Maybe that's why the judge tolerates it, because Daddy is the D.A.....nepotism at its best!
The prosecutor is amazing and so knowledgeable. The defence attorney is twisting things around. She’s making assumptions on things that she herself is saying is an assumption. She comes across as a 1st year law student….and not a particularly smart one at that.
What kind of courtroom is this? The defense attorney is ridiculous, the judge is odd, and the prosecution is barely milquetoast! This should be a convincing, straightforward case to argue.
Just because she used the word that you wouldn’t have chosen doesn’t mean that this woman is guilty of involuntary manslaughter when my kids were growing up and they did something they weren’t supposed to do of course, nothing along these lines I would always say they made their bed they have to lay in it we aren’t going to parent the same way and we’re not all going to respond in the same way
Right it has nothing to do with what got her charged. Providing the gun that was used and all the neglect that led up to that point is why she was charged. So no, that one statement isn’t the reason.
And I personally think that the defense should be able to bring in Ethan’s statement from his sentencing. He clearly states that it was all him, and his parents had nothing to do with it, and knew nothing about it.
The parent's purchased the guns and didn't lock them up. It's one thing to take your kid to a range but it's totally irresponsible to let any kid have access to firearms. In my opinion there's a reason they make gun safes
The issue isn't about whether his parents knew anything about it but rather how incredibly negligent they were with their son, whom was very clearly undergoing significant mental health issues at the time. This is boiling down to the fact that had his parents been less self-centered and cold toward their son (while ignoring countless red flags), this whole mess might have been prevented and lives saved. Ethan repeatedly texting his parents that he was scared at the house by himself, saying things like "Can you at least text back" while evidence shows his mother was literally holding her phone at that time taking photos... That's just heartbreaking. The LEAST she could do is take 30 seconds to respond to her son instead of waiting several hours. Makes me thankful that my parents were so actively involved in my life and cared enough to ensure that I always felt safe and secure. Ethan's parents' negligence is too often how we end up with situations like this, so it's definitely time to start holding negligent parents accountable for their kids' actions. Just as ignorance is not an excuse when breaking laws, negligence is not an excuse for bad parenting.
That means he has done more than his parents ever did. Like sticking up for them. They are unfit and hopefully will be in prison for a long time. Seems she's getting well fed 😮
jazz hands awful lawyer also answers questions she ask so much shill ask question and b4 she gets answer shill say correct...... so many rhetorical questions jazz hands taylor swift lawyer
I think the defense attorney should be on trail for public nuisance.
@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm as soon as she stood to begin cross examination i had to fast forward because i couldn’t stand to hear one more word out of her mouth.
Nails down a chalkboard. She’s one of the most insufferable woman I’ve ever seen
Nails down a chalkboard. She’s one of the most insufferable woman I’ve ever seen
👀 I thought Shannon did as great a job as could be expected! That was a big job cuz her client was guilty as charged 😳🤷🏼♀️
This defense attorney is terrible. It's hard to believe she has over 20+ years of experience.
Agree !! I had no idea she has 20 plus years being an attorney. She acts like she is right out of school.
To be fair Jennifer has 15 years experience being a parent, experience doesn't equate to excellence
Hard to believe she has over 20 minutes of experience
@@bethaniel841
😂 She's go'in to LOO..oose 😂
@@Farmerk3547not really a valid comparison. A lawyer has specific training and needs to be certified before they even begin their experience.
The text sent by the mom to the shooter, her son, tells the court her precise insight in terms of her son's mental state.
@ke9988 EXACTLY. you said it. as simple as that.
Her attorney needs to be dismissed from this case. She is not respectful.
Attorneys cannot just be "dismissed" You obviously don't know much about the law.
She’s so rude the way she addresses witnesses. She’s arrogant and talks to them like they’re below her. Not a good look
@@truthtalker4038 you obviously are a "Karen"
It’s because the judge is incompetent. She let the DA walked all over her courtroom.
@@harley8680 LOL< OK Like I care what a stranger on the internet thinks about me! Good one!
I try not to be judgmental of other parents being one myself. But if your son uses your gun to commit a mass shooting, you’ve failed as a parent’s.
No! not your gun....the gun you bought for him
Yeah but you know, she wouldn’t do anything different. Unbelievable. I am so glad she has been found guilty and hope she gets the maximum.
They bought him the gun
@@fire12731 …..they bought him the gun, with his money. Extremely illegal straw purchase.
Not necessarily. You can be a great parent and that child can still make his or her own choices.
Unfortunately in this circumstance it’s the parents that did fail their child.
This judge is weak.
Horrendous BS@@richrenii
She's the definition of "go girl give as nothing"
@@richrenii it's a meme, if that's what you asking..
Women women and more women
Women women and more women
Did this defense attorney get her degree from the dollar store? Geeze Louise
In the clearance basket at that😨
You're generous to her. I would've guessed the Five and Dime.
Darrell Brooks School of Law. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
She graduated from Trump Universirty
Horrible defense lawyer and judge
This case is a joke
Not all women should be mothers...exhibit A🙄😶
Ethan is a sociopath
That can happen to anyone
@@hollynonya6991Please direct me to where that diagnosis was made.
Agreed.That woman was so concerned about Walmart hookups and being cool. She's filth
@@hollynonya6991That women is horrendous. Yeah her child is a POS.He was the same person asking were his fan mail was.They all will have a jolly old time in prison. Rotting together.And as a father of a 10 year old named Madison, you wouldn't be saying this b.s. it could happen to anyone of it was your child that was blown away.Wake up.
@hollynonya6991 thankfully everyone doesn't buy their sociopath a gun.
He suffered before the shooting with two parents who were not involved in his needs.
It happens a lot when both parents need to work
He was a born POS. He knew what he was doing. High school is full of outcasts.But to shoot people was on him.
Being a bad parent is not a crime..
@@JaniceBurandtI’m guessing you’ve never heard of child protective services? You think they do that for shits and giggles?
@@JaniceBurandt….nope but giving your kid a gun when he was having mental issues makes you a bad parent.
Finally, a defense attorney who makes Alina Habba look good. Along with a mumbling judge who appears to be high on valium and has completely lost control. WOW
Spot on 💯
Alina Habba is awesome. If you followed transcript of trial and not media accounts you might see that. But it seems like nothing would satisfy your blood lust
@@SlowLew222 LAO. Alina Habba? Good lawyer? ah, ok maga boy. you might have noticed she lost her client 83 million, offended the jury, doesn’t know rules of evidence, and doesn’t know what phase of the trial she’s arguing about - but ok Lew, you know better
Wow that’s hard to do! She must REALLY suck! Lol
Donald Duck Chump doesn’t think so! He dumped her ! Hahahaha@@SlowLew222
They were completely negligent in parenting. They didn’t know about everything in his bedroom what he could be doing in there because they were riding horses while he saw demons.
The majority of families both parents work full time jobs to make ends meet! Often times one of the parents will have two jobs to make ends meet... Life is not easy for most parents!
@@turtletruth but if their kid asks for help from seeing demons, they should have time to help. Maybe if they weren’t paying horse boarding they could’ve afforded a counselor too. My mom was a single mom with 2 jobs! Gtfoh with that
@@turtletruth as a matter of fact, if you don’t have time enough to make sure your kid is mentally and physically healthy, don’t have a kid
@@Geminiduplicity You act like every pregnancy is pre-planned! You can't possibly be that slow!
Is the Crumbly kid still seeing demons? Wow, amazing how they just disappeared ...
Her house was filthy.
She was too busy working, riding horses, and having affairs.
James lived there too
@@karlamarcellus4941yup! Well said
When she texted her lover about the shooting I think that was the night they were fleeing, she said, "I never get to see my horses again?! and said nothing about the dead children!!!! OMFG!!!!
On appeal, judge could be seen as incompetent! She is not making her rulings clear on the objections, she is not saying overruled or sustained! She just turns to the witness and asks the witness a question and lets the prosecutor move on... Sorry not sorry, this judge sucks!
When defense attorney and judge interact it’s like watching 2 yr olds discuss.
Well I thought the judge was getting annoyed at the defense and just asked some questions herself.
This is more corroboration with the video of the Crumbley's first police interview - - the day of the school shooting incident with their son - - Of Jennifer Crumbley Exhibiting Cold - Non Empathetic - Disconnect with Investigating Officers. She is tense and uncomfortable and very preoccupied with HERSELF. She is NOT CONCERNED about her boy. She Comes Off Very Remote and Judgemental - - Not the right demeanor for a concerned involved parent - - Most Parents Horror Sets In IMMEDIATELY in a PERSONAL WAY - When Their Child Is Found To Have Committed Violence Against Others - - "how could he do that ? ! " "how awful" " I feel terrible" etc etc - - we don't have to have experience of dealing with families of school shooters to tell us THIS IS THE NORMAL WAY AN INVLOVED CONCERNED RESPONSIBLE PARENT RESPONDS. She Is Just Not That - - -She is Remote, She Irresponsible, She Committed Gross Negligence Ignoring the SERIOUSNESS Of her Sons Deteriorating Mental Health.
Well said .
I wonder how unconcerned & unemotional Jennifer Crumbley would have been in response to the tragic injury or death of either of their horses.
These last minutes of questioning are so stupid by the defense attorney!!!
She can barely string a sentence together.
Her son isnt the only one suffering, i assure you... this defense is obnoxious as hell.
Personally I don't like the defence attorney either but I suspect they make trials go on days longer than necessary to make more money if they are paid by the hour. Was it legal to give him a gun or not? That's the murder weapon. A grown woman drinking or riding horses etc. is not illegal giving her mentally disturbed teenager a weapon and ignoring the teachers concerns and other red flags potentially was.
What she was doing in spite of the concerning position she found herself in is the most necessary thing. He didn’t just grab the gun while his mother was busy loading up the car for the day & she missed it. She saw him map it all out and decided to go nurture horses. She avoided the situation while entertaining another man. Defense will use her actions to paint the picture that she was too busy to be aware of his mental health
Her son snapped and his actions were more extreme than most of us can even comprehend. He couldn’t be anymore broken & after she didn’t attempt to support or comfort the child she birthed & raised.
It’s important that while her child was reaching out to her about delusions and such she was ignoring him to go horse riding. He tells her about demons and she laughs. The mother seemed to think if she made sure he did his homework she was a good mother. I think the fact she spent no time with him, dismissed his mental health concerns and was focused on herself, her affair and hobbies and didn’t pay attention to how ill, isolated he was, how he has developed an interest in guns while his other hobbies disappeared is highly relevant.
The defense lawyer obviously did not graduate " top of her class" in law school...she is rediculious...
It's her hillbilly cousin who bought a suit from Walmart and decided to help.😂
Can somebody be kind enough to buy Shannon a law dictionary, including the pages with definition of "hearsay". Like if one person is in the conversation, relating their own experience of the interaction, by definition, is NOT hearsay. You don't even need to be a lawyer to know, but you probably have to be a reasonably intelligent person, with the ability to grossly reason and analyze, to distinguish what does or doesn't fall in that category. Somehow Shannon missed the boat on all of that.
Watching the trial, I kept thinking of how the defense attorney's demeanor reminded me of something and when she started again with the distracting dry cough, it hit me. I used to work with a woman whose disjointed speaking, histrionics and nervous demeanor practically mirror the attorney and she was addicted to amphetamines. Im in no position to even hazard a guess whether or not the attorney has this issue- she just reminded me of someone who did.
I thought the same thing when I saw her face
@@butchbrewer4923 yeah, she had a bit of jaw clenching going on too.
Yeah I believe she is on something.
I would think that if the attorney was on something the defendant can file for an appeal due to ineffective counsel or worse. It would be rather difficult to prove that she had illegal substances in her system that long ago but it should be easy enough to prove if she is a chronic abuser. Maybe she's not but if I was in the defendant's shoes I would have been livid with the attorney and begged for effective council that is not a loose cannon who behaves like a cartoon who can't start her day until someone draws her and adds background circus music.
The prosecutors are running laps around these defense attorneys.
Why are there never sidebars? I don’t understand!
I remember when you his happened MAGA was sooooo outraged they these parents could be held accountable.
I am beyond outraged of these parents are charged for the actions of their 15-year-old. We’re supposed to be mine readers did they put that gun in his backpack? Did they know that he was gonna commit a mass shooting? No, they did not.
@@tammyirwin703why buy your mentally ill son a gun then? He was depressed and begging for her attention and she was too busy riding horses and having an affair
@@queensade1560 there is no solid proof that he was mentally ill actually during his Miller hearing the psychiatrist said that Ethan didn’t have mental issues because if he would have had mental issues like you are also led to believe his attorney could have went for insanity defense however, they couldn’t because he wasn’t found to have a mental defect that’s how it works here in Michigan people
I’m afraid you don’t know what you’re talking about
@@tammyirwin703 No need to read minds. They could have just read his texts and the drawings he had that said "The thoughts won't stop. Help me. Blood everywhere." If you don't think that's a warning sign then I'm terrified of the potential neglect your own children might be going through.
Lol the mom's lawyer is a hoot, when did she get her law degree? Yesterday?
It was an Internet degree from the University of CreamSoda.
University of Phoenix
It should not be legal for teens to own guns.
I apologize if It sounded like I blamed the school for not searching his back, not the schools fault. Laws are sometimes set in place that do more harm then good.
The only thing Jennifer and James really did criminally wrong was not securing the guns. If Ethan hadn't done what he did a friend of his could have come over and gotten a gun there. Teenagers ARE wierd and i know as a society we used to have a gun rack in our trucks but its just not that day anymore. Gotta keep those locked up or just not have them. Teen proof the house just like you would baby proof when a baby lived there
@hereweare2031 Thank you.
I know it’s strange, but myself, siblings and friends all had guns mounted and ready. This shit did not happen…. What is wrong that we have to worry everyday about these kids killing others… I’m older but don’t understand it! What happened to our society? 😢
Considering the entire closing statement from the defense attorney is placing her non-relatable experience throughout a diatribe pleading for the jurors to disreard that the defendant was a neglegent parent at best.
I still don't understand what the text "Ethan, don't do it" was about. Was it timestamped? Did the mom ask that before he shot kids? OR did the mom text that after the shooting. The mom says that was about telling ethan not to shoot himself, right?
She claims that she said it referring to him shooting himself. But I believe she knew he was the one who was going to shoot up the school and she was trying to tell him not to.
She and his dad had already been at the school regarding violent drawings. When she heard about the active shooter, she contacted the dad at home as she was driving to the school and asked where the family ammo was. He said it and the gun were gone. She knew her son was feeling depressed, and he had just texted that he loved her when she said he didn't often express that. She put two and two together and concluded he would hurt himself.
@@peztopher7297 when she heard there was an active shooter, she knew it was her kid. She said don’t do it because she was trying to stop him. Meaning she DID have the knowledge to know her child was a danger to himself and others and this all could have been prevented if she had sought mental health treatment for her son and NOT bought him a gun.
Why wouldn’t she object to the things that should have been objected to? I don’t get it. Like, I seriously don’t get it.
And this should have been moved out of Oakland County in my personal opinion
If Jennifer is found not guilty it would be because of her lawyer.
She was such a bumbling pity party that the jury probably feels sorry for HER.
She totally separated herself and didn’t want to be involved in what her son did including the shooting. No responsibility taken whatsoever.
This seems like a shit show. 🤨
The judge 😳
That defense attorney is so annoying
It's not even necessarily her argument, it's actually her....her demeanor, her personality, just her. I can't imagine having a conversation with her and not going insane
This defense attorney is completely inept!
When police find someone's behavior odd, inappropriate or unusual they certainly have the right to investigate further to see 8f there's anything behind that. However, testifying that someone did behave "normally" or words to that effect, should not affect a jury decision, because law enforcement have no idea how the suspect usually expresses themselves or handles a crisis. And a murder goes beyond stressors usually experienced by anyone. An autistic person, for instance, may not show the emotion we expect. Speaking in general, not only this case and not implying innocence.
Well done to the prosecution! Such a thorough job! Even more well done for Judge to take the time to explain the perimeters of the law so well.
Defense: reaching and picking 100% fair enough…
Makes me sick anyone would defend a horrifying event that involved death and life time trama to these families and child just because her so felt like he had nothing in life.
The defence attorney is appalling. Asking the same questions over and over, whining about objections when the type of objections is what she does all the time. Complete hypocrite!! She also speculates and only gives witnesses the option of answering 'correct? ' No open questions... interrupting the closing argument countless times. I've never seen that happen!! It's like she fucking 5!!! I think daddy owns a law firm and she woke up one morning and wanted to be, like, a lawyer today! Maybe that's why the judge tolerates it, because Daddy is the D.A.....nepotism at its best!
The judge is quite disappointing in the way she conducts the trial....she is way too far from a judge handling her place ...
He’s the declarant 😂
Is this the judges first day? Yikes
Thats not hearsay
The prosecutor is amazing and so knowledgeable. The defence attorney is twisting things around. She’s making assumptions on things that she herself is saying is an assumption. She comes across as a 1st year law student….and not a particularly smart one at that.
Welcome to the spin zone
this judge is soooo bad
She only cares about her feelings?
What kind of courtroom is this? The defense attorney is ridiculous, the judge is odd, and the prosecution is barely milquetoast! This should be a convincing, straightforward case to argue.
No it shouldn't. And if your child was blown away you be saying this.
@@toddjohnson5176 what?
Just because she used the word that you wouldn’t have chosen doesn’t mean that this woman is guilty of involuntary manslaughter when my kids were growing up and they did something they weren’t supposed to do of course, nothing along these lines I would always say they made their bed they have to lay in it we aren’t going to parent the same way and we’re not all going to respond in the same way
Right it has nothing to do with what got her charged. Providing the gun that was used and all the neglect that led up to that point is why she was charged. So no, that one statement isn’t the reason.
Oh what great parenting
Not
She was too busy with the many boyfriends
If she only was their for her kid as she was for her boyfriens
@@loopy1159says who?
Says who ever wants to say what ever they want karen
Both lawyers awful. Judge not much better. They will never get a proper trial because of public media.
Brandon Hutson ☝️👉
And I personally think that the defense should be able to bring in Ethan’s statement from his sentencing. He clearly states that it was all him, and his parents had nothing to do with it, and knew nothing about it.
The parent's purchased the guns and didn't lock them up. It's one thing to take your kid to a range but it's totally irresponsible to let any kid have access to firearms. In my opinion there's a reason they make gun safes
The issue isn't about whether his parents knew anything about it but rather how incredibly negligent they were with their son, whom was very clearly undergoing significant mental health issues at the time. This is boiling down to the fact that had his parents been less self-centered and cold toward their son (while ignoring countless red flags), this whole mess might have been prevented and lives saved. Ethan repeatedly texting his parents that he was scared at the house by himself, saying things like "Can you at least text back" while evidence shows his mother was literally holding her phone at that time taking photos... That's just heartbreaking. The LEAST she could do is take 30 seconds to respond to her son instead of waiting several hours. Makes me thankful that my parents were so actively involved in my life and cared enough to ensure that I always felt safe and secure. Ethan's parents' negligence is too often how we end up with situations like this, so it's definitely time to start holding negligent parents accountable for their kids' actions. Just as ignorance is not an excuse when breaking laws, negligence is not an excuse for bad parenting.
That means he has done more than his parents ever did.
Like sticking up for them. They are unfit and hopefully will be in prison for a long time. Seems she's getting well fed 😮
@@al3xmwell said
@@noble-macactually they were locked up the dishonest prosecutor wouldn't admit that.
Crumbley's gotta good looking lawyer!!!!
The whiny dumbo???
Man.seriously. looking at your profile pic it doesn't surprise me you'd say something like that.smh
Lmao 🤣
the defense lawyer irritates the crap out of me! and the mother of the shooter comes across as deranged.
jazz hands awful lawyer also answers questions she ask so much shill ask question and b4 she gets answer shill say correct...... so many rhetorical questions jazz hands taylor swift lawyer