The Definitive Mii Gunner Moveset Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Here it is. The trilogy is complete. I can't believe it.
Thank you all for joining me on this journey to catalog every single Mii special. I hope you had as much fun watching these as I did making them.
I FORGOT TO CREDIT DERP (X3XX) ON THE MII GUNNER DISCORD I'M SO SORRY
Music used:
Wii Sports - Bowling Normal: • Wii Sports Music - Bow...
Wii U - Mii Maker (Gamepad): • Wii U System Music - M...
(as seen in my fancy new outro)
Timestamps:
0:00 Charge Blast
1:26 Laser Blaze
2:39 Grenade Launch (Nade)
3:51 Flame Pillar
5:26 Stealth Burst
6:37 Gunner Missile (Miissile)
9:04 Lunar Launch
9:59 Cannon Jump Kick (CJK)
11:18 Arm Rocket
12:22 Echo Reflector
13:27 Bomb Drop
15:13 Absorbing Vortex
16:42 Outro - เกม
Full list of pros and cons here: pastebin.com/GK0GgeZV
Step 1: Wear comically large skeleton mask
Step 2: wear busty waifu or creeper outfit
2) cover yourself in bones
Step 3).Sit on an edge of a cliff
@@theotherjared9824
S’nifa
S’Knuckles
step 4: do a thumbs up
"Let me get this straight, you think that Mii gunner is the best SSBU waifu?"
"I do, and i'm tired of pretending she's not."
sans is not a waifu
@@Ness_2000 Nonononono. Default Mii gunner. Sans is not waifu, and neither is Cuphead.
Smash 4 Mii Gunner was cuter.
fr tho
@@Ness_2000 who said that?
13:03
"Did he just walk up slowly... and down smash?"
He did. He really did tho.
Ahem , *she*
@@skylight9860 Nah samus is a dude trust me
@@NinkoCv NOOOOOOOOOT really
@@julo_ghost Bruh trust him for once
I like how good fan drawn Miis can look.
"Good"...
@@fredderdocto6730 silence
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Friendship DELETED with Sans Costume, Doomguy is my new Eternal best friend
It’s worthy to note that stealth burst can’t be reflected back at you. The explosion can be reflected but you won’t be near enough to the opponent if they do so. The explosion can be absorbed however.
Gunner will always be Better Samus in my eyes
Good guide, though it's kinda useless because everyone knows that the best Gunner moveset is Grenade Launch, Gunner Missile, Lunar Launch, and Bomb Drop for maximum KABOOM!
It's kinda like playing as Snake except you don't have to worry about boring shit like cooking grenades, aiming the missile, or worrying about where your C4 is. You just spam like a Belmont but cooler because you do it while dressed up as Sinsabelle, which is Sans' head on Isabelle's body.
I wish more people would leave comments like this instead of "I like this moveset" with no further explanation
This genuinely made me laugh, thanks 😂
Mate I just picked up gunner to camp my friends for fun and uhh this is the excact move set I made, and yes they all think I’m horrible and are probably deleting my mii gunner as we speak
Well its all make sense with your profile pic xD
You can also make a point for flame pillar charge shot, because at 0 flame pillar flame pillar charge shot is true on every character and does 60%. Flame pillar charge shot is always true at any percent and does 47 percent, but kills off the side at 60 or higher. At around 90-100, flame pillar charge shot kills no matter what. Gunner missile charge shot works only at specific percents, and it is more committal and harder to execute because it’s not true if you don’t predict the enemy being hit by the missile. Having grenade launch gunner missile is better in neutral, but in my opinion having such an easy kill confirm with high damage is much better, because it is already fairly easy for gunner to win neutral due to having bomb drop and flame pillar/gunner missile.
Love how well the music interacts with the action. This is definitely a definite guide!
I'm glad you think so! :)
Came for hips, stayed for move list
My gunner build:
-charge shot
-lunar blast
-bomb drop
-flame pillar
Extremely good for preventing pressure and approaches and also veru effective for ledge trappig and edge guarding while also having insane recovery.
And thus, the end to the great Mii fighter trilogy!
As a guy who loves to play all the Miis ( Major Brawler fan ), these videos have been great and very useful. Good work :)
I love how with the echo reflector one of the pros was "the year is 20XX"
Imagine Mii games on Switch...
#Miivolution
Please Nintendo it's all I want
@@helios3557 Join the revolution! the goal is to get Nintendo to listen and we just started making plans
@@benjaminex3009 Maybe I will tbh
*I'm waiting on my Miitopia 2, Nintendo.*
#Miivolution
@@leoleo4469 Well you got a rerelease..
I main Samus and my pocket is Mii Gunner with the Samus outfit, missiles, and charge blast.
Imo Laser Blaze is good in a few MUs, like Steve since you can interrupt mining, forcing them to spend time and resources to build a wall in front of them
Laser blaze (neutral special) is definitely slept on in this video. Its hella spammable and does *five percent damage* with each bullet, which, considering how fast it can shoot, is really obnoxious for the opponent to deal with.
Pretty nice guide you got going here! Keep up the good work!
im scared of the only sometimes section of characters but other than that nice guide
I had a feeling that needed some clearing up. Basically, those characters' ledge hang animations make it so that sometimes they poke up high enough to get hit, and sometimes they don't.
Outstanding! I love the clear explanations and the pro's and con's!
I'm glad you like it! :)
This is a high quality guide! Thanks for making this!
Really cool guide! I've played gunner for a few years now and I didn't know some of this stuff, thank you!
This is an amazing guide! I liked how you break down the cons as well as the pros because often people only look at the pros of a move. My personal loadout is charge shot, flame pillar, lunar launch, and bomb drop. Because of flame pillar and charge shot’s ridiculous synergy.
Absorbing Vortex can absorb Inkling's ink.
Yes, ink.
I liked all three of your guides very much!
Ah, Cannon Jump Kick. So bad but _so_ good
The fact Mii Gunner can choose to be Samus but also just do other things is amazing. "Oh, the charge shot, bombs, and missles? Yeah, got those. And grenades, lasers, absorbers, and this gun actually helps me recover instead of me having to turn into a ball just to get by, what of it?"
You can basically do whatever you want with this character tbh
@@helios3557 Yeah, also, until I saw this video I didn't even know that stealth blast is a move, and I use it all the time now. Works great!
I’ll always argue that gunner is just better samus if you use CS, GM, CJK and BD cuz the side and down b are my favorite frame traps (cuz missile and bomb are safe on shield at decent distances) and it allows for easy combo’s with CS and CJK. The only true advantage samus has is her grab
@@thunderstar7682 I am coming to the conclusion that we end up woth a bad Samus version if we copy her abilities because basicly almost every base stat of gunner is worse than Samus', there is a reddit thread that compares them both and samus has muuuch more advntages - I personally think the top gunner mains should stop using the Samus abilities as Samus just does it better
@@Takujaki nah I’d win
I love Mii Gunner’s moves, especially the fair: “Gunner blast” move. They’re such a neat character.
I like this but a few things to mention. Charge shot & sektor missile work well against reflectors, as if one gets reflected the other will cancel the projectile if you use both near the same time.
Cyrax bomb/ Bomb drop I believe had super armor a while back during the first few frames of the bomb spawning. Which can allow you to tank 2 projectiles with 1 bomb if it’s necessary.
So Grenade launch, miissile, arm rocket, and absorption, got it! Helpful guide
Excellent work on these videos!
Great video, 20/10 I wish there were more miis because I love these
Your Mii guides are really good help me try out the other Miis
You are criminally underrated
Omg where have you been all my life!? You earn a new sub. Thank you for this.
I always loved Gunner, I wanted to main her before Sans and Cuphead was a thing.
I'm still trying to completely main her in Sm4sh!
Glad I could help with Cannon Jump Kick and Absorbing Vortex! Thanks for the credit.
I would also like to add something to the stealth burst. If you combo it with Charge Blast you can fake out your opponent by charging it up just to do a stealth burst, they may pull out a deflector or shield which may leave them open to get grabbed, which then you can do f-throw into the charge blast you had saved.
Wait, this isn't Silksong news!
Cool video tho
@@michaelvisosky743 That would be a nice cherry on top but not this time
Very well done video i main gunner and there’s a lot I learned from this video and I play mii gunner alot good content and I love the thumbnail
Genuinely every of Mii gunner's specials are super cool and have very interesting synergies with eachother. Obviously grenade launch, gunner missile, and bomb drop have the most superior combination of stage control and recovery, and the same combination but with charge shot is equally top tier by being better samus except without a teather grab (or zair/teather recovery). I would argue flame pillar is weak with grenade launch and that it is overglorified with charge shot but actually synergizes well with laser blaze for close stage control. Laser blaze also synergizes better with cannon jump kick than the other neutral specials which are better at killing
Admittedly the CJK isn't amazing but considering one of my most played characters is Luigi... stupidly shortranged but extremely powerful and fast out of shield kill moves seem to work more often than they should, even against players better than me. Also style points, so I just consider it worth it. Also, I legitimately forgot Stealth Blast exists. May have to try it out sometime.
I use Charge Shot, CJK, Stealth blast and Bomb Drop, and was pretty sad to see it being rated as unviable, cuz I use it a lot and it's a rly strong and cool move
also u should try out stealth blast, once you get the hang of it it's pretty good
On Flame Pillar, something else to mention, it can give you a setup for a kill if it lands. Use a fully charged Charge Shot while they’re stuck in the fire. It’s not 100% consistent but it’s worked most of the times I’ve done it
It is completely true, just short hop at low percents and full hop at high percents
Awesome guide👍
Another upside of laser blaze: staling
Similar to good fox players, having a option to quickly remove any previous staling is pretty powerful, the move itself isn't strong but the damage over time and spam ability really makes them more aggressive
I love these videos,
YES! IT’S HERE
This was really helpful thanks, you should try making videos talking about a specific Mii set
I might make some 1212 propaganda but that would probably be about it
I run 1333 but I may change it up a bit after seeing some of the tips you mentioned. Thanks.
This is amazing, 10/10. Are u gonna do a guide on the best mii costumes? :)
Oh baby i knew this was coming
Watching this after a Mii Gunner used Laser Blaze to beat Void's Sheik in SWT. Definitely a viable move. Tweek was also very impressed with the move when watching the set.
ITS HERE
Really good video subbed
Epic mii gunner moveset guide! Also hell yeah, I'm glad people are actually using the term sans slide. Makes me happy
Thanks for the videos, now I know what to and what not to use when playing as my childhood characters, also, I checked what ability does the most damage for each Mii:
🥊: ESK [exploding side kick (don't use this piece of 💩)
🗡️: Burning blade ( I prefer the shuriken)
🔫: Charge blast.
Yeah alright just finishjed binging your mii videos and I have to say they're very well done. My mii gunner is a creeper in a suit and his name is "terrorist". I use all viable moves, and tbh I just realized I use 3333, so that's cool.
I like using Charge Blast, Flame Pillar, Cannon Jump Kick, and Echo Reflector.
Hey thanks thisll come in handy. Ive been learning gunner as a secondary. I made a cowboy mii, his moves are:
Charge shot
Flame pillar
Rocket jump
And absorbing vortex.
Thoughts? Any tips are aporeciated.
cowboy on brother
Hahah the Miisssile, I see what ya did there
20XX REFERENCE DETECTED AT 12:58
truly a cool MMX-like
Mii gunner mains: but could I be memeing HARDER?
When nobody got me i know The miis got me 😔🤚
i appreciate you
The biggest upgrade to my Gunner was a costume that made it instantaneously clear which way he/she is facing while in the air for easier Fair movement shenanigans.
That, and spamming Up Tilt
Love how sans has become the mace of mii gunner
Thanks gunner main here and I'm glad the set up i use isn't complete dog shit. This gave me the idea of creating a warpig dub class that uses stealth shot an charge shot to punish and the kick jump recovery to spike. Not exactly viable but very fun
I would argue that stealth burst's lack of interaction with projectiles is a pro and a con, you can theoretically hit your opponent through their projectile barrage, but on the other hand your move will not halt any of their projectiles allowing them to possibly hit you before your move hits them (the ability to deal damage to a foe on the other side of a team mate does give it a boost in usefullness during doubles with tram attack on but you could also lob grenades over a team mate to hit foes on the other side of your team mate
Thanks!
Thanks for the guide now that doom slayer is out I will practice the hell out of mii gunner
You better be practicing the HELL out of Gunner if you wanna be like Doomguy
@@helios3557 just because of that joke you've earned a sub
11:14 one small thing against a mid weight fighter if you go down or up throw full jump cjk at around 70% it’s pretty good a killing
id like to add that backtrow into charge shot is a really good combo. it wont catch anyone going low but it can condition away from going high or horizontally, which lets you then more easily use mii gunners spike.
edit: also who made the mii gunner art
I wish the Mii Gunner included better special attacks that are capable of killing in low percentages, These special attacks will be Metal Slug weapons, I would like them to include the Rocket Launcher, Super Granade, Enemy Chaser, Laser Gun, Flame Shot, Shot Gun, Thunder Shot, Drop Shot, and all their upgraded versions of the weapons I mentioned above with the ability to kill at 0%.
Nice
Something you forgot to mention is that if you get hit while charging Stealth Burst, it keeps going without you and automatically explodes at max range, allowing for situational combos, or sitcombs for short
0:43-0:45 Clean Transition
I use Charge Blast, Gunner Missile, Arm Rocket and Echo Reflector. Not the most optimal combination but I enjoy it.
That's like 90% optimal actually! If you wanted to make it 100%, you could change your down B to bomb drop, but that's a very solid combination already.
@@helios3557 Wait, it is? Neat. I might just need some Forward Air practice, I'm more used to MegaMan-style zoning, not to mention Gunner's F-air has some unique properties. I'll probably not be changing Down B though since I'm keeping a reference. This is really good to know though, thanks a lot!
i never though i will come on a mii gunner move analysis for...
geno
Moves for my gunner:
2: Lazer Blaze
1: Flame Pillar
3: Arm Cannon
3: Absorbing Vortex
I am similar (1133), as Flame Pillar is awesome, but I use Charge Shot instead.
Online, I go default Absorber (as it looks cooler), but it is annoying to then get matched into a Zelda.
But when you switch to Reflector, a Bowser/Palutena is pretty much guaranteed, lol.
Across all potential matchups, default Reflector probably makes more sense though (more things seem to be reflectable-only than absorbable-only), and Reflector is even a few frames quicker for turning around for Fair recoveries against non-projectile characters.
Vortex has much less total frames, so it is faster for turning around, only when using the hitbox to hit the enemy reflector is faster
the three sets i play are
1332 (gravity-affected projectiles are my jam)
1333 (absorbing vortex is an amazing movement option)
3333 (same as 1333 except now i have a projectile that's +10 on shield)
I'd say that if you run Flame Pillar, Charge shot is even better, as if your opponent doesn't SDI enough, you can combo it into Charge Shot. I did this A LOT before i switched to Stealth Burst (As you can just jump to align it, especially if you know most fall speeds, and it can finish off stocks if your opponent doesn't see it, and i really don't have problems with seeing it). I'd say that it does needs some practice, but it's a good finisher and edgeguarder (With it being able to literally edgeguard from across the stage.)
For some reason, I always preferred flame pillar over miisile. Moves like that are often a tad too technical for my taste. Also, the sheer rush you get from essentially using robins limited side-b infinitely is unrivaled (at least, for me.) when I use flame pillar with grenade launch, I can make my opponent miserable at ledge. even quickplay zeldas hate me.
you can also get slick belmonte combos with flame pillar + charge blast
6:42 Nice pun.
Certified
i play mii gunner way more often than i probably should... just because i like my nostalgia critic mii
my explosion-prioritized moveset of 3212 has made me really good at sniping with stealth burst
recently ive been experimenting with reflector instead of bomb drop but i will never get rid of bomb drop permanentely
13:00 Melee Fox is proud for that
Long time lover of these videos, have watched and rewatched each of these videos ~200-300 times each.
I gotta logistical question, do you know how the charge shot charges? After starting charge animation frames, does the charge hold each frame's worth of charge and does a single frame increase damage and knockback or does the charge shot require increments of frames like 5 at a time and if you cancel the charge before a full increment of frames that you are reduced to the closest full number of charge increments? I know the difference is likely not noticable in match (especially if one only utilizes fully charged charge shots where every full charge is equal to one another {ignoring move staling})
THE *GARGANTUAN* LORD HAS SPOKEN. MISSILES ARE 10/10!
LETS GOOOO
Epic video
Sans moveset next?
@@itsblitz3917 Thanks, and sure thing! I have a Sans moveset video right here: th-cam.com/video/OC1FyJbXFhs/w-d-xo.html
0:31 I had no idea it could do this
I feel like OP is under valuing Cannon Jump Kick. A 6 frame killing OoS is nothing to sneeze at (though that may just be me talking as someone used to maining Bowser and really likes strong Up B's OoS).
Imo side special 2 can potentially be the best choice if mastered. Worst choice if not mastered. I've been thrown to the blast zone, shot my side b and killed my opponent that's standing on the stage while I'm still near the blast zone because they just didn't even know what hit them. Best coupled with arm rocket up b.
EDIT: also, using it on a really bright stage or a stage like FD when you've mastered the aim and timing is fantastic. lol
i’ve fr gone all 3’s for my gunner
Now I know this is personal opinion but Lunar launch is a much better option in my opinion vs the third option since without a hitbox and slow travel speed it's even easier to edgegaurd, at least with the projectile hit box you can punish missed edgegaurds. Both are good for recovery but I put the edge for Lunar launch. Also the "sans slide" is pretty useless when you can just F-air to get away just as easy
The charge shot I find is a bit better since it is fast and a lot less predictable as I see people spam the fireworks, as I like to call it, so much plus the fireworks don't clash with charge shots and is super laggy making it easier for Samus and charge shot gunners to hit their charge shots. Another upside is the ability to get high damage and quick kills since it's so non-committal vs the Fireworks. For my set I always do 1312 for ledge traps and pressure or 1313 to fuck over snakes
CJK is the mist satisfying to hit
I use Bomb drop's directional control as a crutch. Me stupid.
In all seriousness, I use loadouts that mostly have: An arcing projectile like Bomb Drop, a projectile blocking move like Flame Pillar, and a linear projectile, so say, Charge shot, Flame pillar, Lunar Launch, and Bomb Drop. Or Nade, Miissile, Arm Rocket, and Absorbing Vortex.
i think there are some moves that mii gunner just inspired.
Charge Blast: Samus' Blast
Laser Blaze: Fox's Laser
Flame Pillar: Robin's arcfire or Ness' PK Fire
Bomb Drop: Samus' Bomb Drop
Echo Reflector: Fox's Echo Reflector
Absorbing Vortex: Ness' PK Magnet
Stealth Burst: Zelda's Din's Fire
Falco’s laser: am I a joke to you?
So what I'm hearing is I should use fox laser, CJK, and reflector. Thank you Helios!
Exactly! Thanks for watching! :)
@@helios3557 Yeah as much as I was joking, sometimes using unviable moves is still darn fun, and its always good to know its pros and cons of the moves because darn fun just gets even more fun when you know how and when to use it.
Great Video, ill try to base my mii like this just to try it out. My only complaint is. Mix up your songs. the guitar riff is now stuck in my head.