The Tragedy Of Val Kilmer Is Beyond Heartbreaking

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  • An international star who led or lit up the ensembles of such movies as "Batman Forever," "Top Gun," and "Heat," Val Kilmer went through a notable lull in his career when he was marked as one of the worst actors to work with in multiple reports at the height of his fame.
    Val Kilmer's story has been revisited in recent years in the documentary "Val," with interest increasing thanks to his appearance in a moving scene in "Top Gun: Maverick."
    Outside of the spotlight, Val Kilmer has dealt with triumph and tragedy, being dogged by tabloids and suffering from health troubles that left him permanently changed. Here's everything you need to know about why the tragedy of Val Kilmer is beyond heartbreaking.
    #ValKilmer #Actor #TopGun
    Parents' divorce was difficult | 0:00
    Early acting struggles | 1:10
    Death of younger brother | 2:01
    Marriage ended bitterly | 2:48
    Terrible to work with | 4:15
    Struggling with weight | 5:40
    Misses his past loves | 6:41
    Throat cancer | 7:50
    Chronically lonely | 8:49
    Initially hated Iceman | 9:34
    His kids helped create Val | 10:23
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  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ  2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    What is your favorite Val Kilmer movie?

  • @TracyMarie71
    @TracyMarie71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +534

    Society was so cruel to him when he was going through cancer. Something so difficult, personal and trying. Just to have the world belittling him for his weight, not being in the public eye and not sharing his private struggles. I’m glad he is better

    • @lookintothelightcarolanne4699
      @lookintothelightcarolanne4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the Hollywood “elite” for ya. When they want to protect one of their own, they rally around, painting pretty pictures…unless they don’t, and they didn’t with Val Kilmer. That’s sad. The world is so cruel.

    • @jennyfinney4292
      @jennyfinney4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tabloids are shit.

    • @suebennett9347
      @suebennett9347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Agree....they can't understand how difficult it is when your given a devastating cancer diagnosis. Even more so if your a prominent actor like Val Kilmer..Hollywood is merciless until it happens to them or a loved one. I was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer in May of 2011 and given on months to live. I went thru the treatments and went into remission in November 2011 and I have never looked back...It brought me to Christ as well in 2014. I am eternally 🙏 🙌✝️ grateful!

    • @jh9391
      @jh9391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same! He's cool.

    • @ashleys.9129
      @ashleys.9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@suebennett9347 God Bless you!

  • @westonstevens3239
    @westonstevens3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    Throat cancer is the worst. Affects your ability to talk, eat, and even breathe. Especially for an actor that's just devastating. Very sorry he had to go through that.

    • @smc130
      @smc130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      My dad went through the same thing in 2000. He never adjusted to losing his voice and became a recluse. Glad to see Val living his life and enjoying his work again.

    • @SLOmotaro
      @SLOmotaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@smc130 same with my dad. He had throat cancer, lost his vocal chords, had trachetomy, but he went insane and died after 3 years.

    • @naomihensley4828
      @naomihensley4828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      My granddaughter was diagnosed with throat cancer at the young age of 8 yrs old she is 15 doing great but the 2 things she loved doing most in her young life was singing and swimming she had a beautiful voice she won the talent show at her school only a few weeks before she lost her beautiful voice do the surgery she had to have

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@naomihensley4828 so heartbreaking at such a young age. Prayers for you and your family.

    • @Leyla7292
      @Leyla7292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SLOmotaro Hello, so tragic 2 hear, that you lost your dad. Sorry 4 your loss 😔🌺

  • @tomjeffery6708
    @tomjeffery6708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +421

    My impression of Val off screen is a good dude. He looked out for my sister for many years. She was in LA alone and he found her at the Apple store and stole her away.. She was his assistant for a good long while.. she never said one bad thing about him to me. And Im glad he was there to look out for her and not take advantage of a young girl like that.

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Well I hope this story is true. That's pretty awesome if it is

    • @timmiller5585
      @timmiller5585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That’s Awesome Tom. You can’t underestimate the value of kindness to others. You sister must have been an encouragement to Val as well.:)

    • @joeysweet9045
      @joeysweet9045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dam this is a great story if it's true! He just seems like he has a great heart and soul, I always wondered what happened to Val I don't really keep up with the stars I didn't even know he had throat cancer until the new TOP GUN MAVERICK came out!

    • @darleenstrathy6394
      @darleenstrathy6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good to know there are decent people in the world

    • @Rikki-lh2mw
      @Rikki-lh2mw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very good story..its so nice to know that not all Hollywood actors are perverts!!
      Also how lucky your sister is working for a famous actor.

  • @Trasea
    @Trasea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    Val Kilmer is the reason I love Tombstone so much. His one liners, and his portrayal of Doc Holliday - just superb. And it's pitiful, almost unbelievable, that the Academy didn't nominate him for best supporting actor. In my heart, he won it. Also, really happy Tom Cruise wouldn't do Top Gun Maverick without Val as Iceman. :)

    • @Raees-Divitiae
      @Raees-Divitiae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Integrating his actual life onto the screen in Top Gun 2 was a good move. Tombstone is a given, I agree.

    • @caroleeryan9304
      @caroleeryan9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Totally agree! He deserved an award for his portrayal as Doc Holliday!

    • @Raees-Divitiae
      @Raees-Divitiae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@caroleeryan9304 That one line seals the deal. “I'm your huckleberry”. Ya can't really mess with that.

    • @nsaxman91082
      @nsaxman91082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "nonsense. By all means, move."

    • @heidibear44
      @heidibear44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Totally agree

  • @shackdaddy7106
    @shackdaddy7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    I saw top gun Maverick yesterday. And seeing Val Kilmer as he is now whether you like him or not makes you sad. His part in the movie was small but extremely significant in what I thought was a great movie.

    • @tonberrymasta
      @tonberrymasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yep, I think the way that Top Gun Maverick had him in such a key role in the story really showed that the hearts of the people who made that film were in the right place.

    • @BrokenArts
      @BrokenArts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I just saw the movie myself, seeing Val in it, and knowing his struggle. I got a bit teary eyed watching that scene. Loved the movie BTW. So glad they included him in it.

    • @scottdavidson526
      @scottdavidson526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I saw the new Top Gun yesterday as well. I thought that it was a great movie.

    • @DCBELLAFAIRY
      @DCBELLAFAIRY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I especially liked how they incorporated him fighting his throat cancer in the movie and that he was getting treatment still while filming the movie,he is so awesome

    • @rosafraga9450
      @rosafraga9450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, makes me sad too..😥

  • @blondie4512
    @blondie4512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    It's obvious that Hollywood was jealous of him.. as another comment below stated, no one mentioned why they didn't like working with him... He looks to be such a wholesome overall nice guy... instead of a show off like other actors... I love that his kids adore him and step up for him...

    • @Djblois1
      @Djblois1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do not like him because he is a Christian Scientist; that means he rejects all medical treatment and tells others to as well. He got treatment for hist throat cancer because his children who are not Christian scientists begged him to.

    • @debbiehyland5821
      @debbiehyland5821 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Val kilmer has always been an awesome actor.he is handsome also.I am very sorry that he had throat cancer and lost his voice.he sure has been through a lot.I saw his documentary val on prime video several times.he is so down to earth caring and funny.very talented also..he lost his younger brother Wesley in 1977 in a tragic accident in a pool.very sad.I love how his 2 children are very close with their dad.it is hard to hear about the unfair rotten negativity that he has been subjected to.I wish him and his family all the best and lots of happiness..

    • @hsh8729
      @hsh8729 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@debbiehyland5821 Thyroid ...it affects every cell in the body. More serious than people realize. His throat chakra... profound

  • @heliomonteiro4200
    @heliomonteiro4200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    The fact that his children are praising who he is, just speaks volumes to how much he is deserving. No award could be better than that.

  • @andywinslow9638
    @andywinslow9638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I'm glad his children helped him and he survived and is back to acting

    • @TheChef470
      @TheChef470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      amen......I'm sure it was their love that inspired him to fight cancer.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it was his children that recommended he go seek the standard toxic treatment of chemotherapy and radiation. They didn't know any better. But in this day and age I can't believe people aren't aware of Gershon or Chris Beats Cancer, therapies that don't poison and burn but address the cause and change the lifestyle. Not many survive chemo. They either die, are either permanently scarred, or it keeps coming back after spreading to the marrow, bones or liver. I feel sorry for him.

    • @mrbaab5932
      @mrbaab5932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is he doing silent movies or does his son do a voice over for him?

    • @andywinslow9638
      @andywinslow9638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrbaab5932 if that's a serious question, he uses a machine to talk currently. He's not making a lead role lately for obvious reasons

  • @gingersnaptrack9337
    @gingersnaptrack9337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Since watching the documentary Val, I have deep respect and admiration for Val Kilmer, him being so honest with such private things. He was brilliant with his Citizen Twain character. Val Kilmer having such wonderful supportive children seems like a lovely rewarding achievement above all.

    • @katejones2148
      @katejones2148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heya Ginger!! Where can I find this document?! 💁🏻‍♀️ Val fan girl!!!! lol

    • @sarashaker6147
      @sarashaker6147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@katejones2148 Amazon prime 😊

    • @gingersnaptrack9337
      @gingersnaptrack9337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@katejones2148 I watched it on Amazon Prime.

  • @darrellhansen7268
    @darrellhansen7268 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Val is an incredible actor. He should be honored and respected and his privacy handled carefully.

    • @HoneyGirl2023
      @HoneyGirl2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree 💯

    • @lindalawon9151
      @lindalawon9151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To Darrell Hansen.
      Agree one hundred percent.

    • @jamesorourke1075
      @jamesorourke1075 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes a brilliant actor. Such artistes are very rare and should be treated reverentially

    • @marthagogele7566
      @marthagogele7566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ganz deiner Meinung

    • @greyyfoxx
      @greyyfoxx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ❤❤❤💯

  • @melodysimonson1510
    @melodysimonson1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    I loved Val Kilmer. His acting was always so real. He made you feel like you were there experiencing the role he was playing. So he was a little hard to work with, actors like him don't come along very often. I was so sorry to hear about his cancer. I am glad that he is healing, even if it takes some time. His autobiography was so eye opening. I don't think I can name just one film of his that I didn't like. Every one is so different from another. The mark of a true craftsman.

    • @Mikedenison195
      @Mikedenison195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, how’re you doing...?

    • @Justin.Martyr
      @Justin.Martyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *I have NOT had a GirL Friend for 7 5 years!!! & you know Wut?*
      *I'm NOT LoneLy & I am One of God's PeoPLe!!!*

  • @rocklover7437
    @rocklover7437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Val playing Jim Morrison of the Doors was a masterpiece .The Doors band members said he was indistinguishable from Jim and it was eerie .

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actors are. Paid to be Bipolar in first 🥇 place then end up conflicted and miserable.

    • @jennyfinney4292
      @jennyfinney4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was literally just remembering this role this morn. As I was listening to the Doors. I love him in every role he has been in. Especially Doc. Holiday.

    • @suebennett9347
      @suebennett9347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes he was fantastic in that movie...played it to the hilt!

    • @nancychandler768
      @nancychandler768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim Morrison was MK ULTRA and the son of George Stephen Morrison; Tonkin Bay … Truth is stranger than fiction

    • @rocklover7437
      @rocklover7437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nancychandler768 Correct ... Laurel Canyon music scene was designed to de rail the Anti Vietnam war movement .

  • @kristinerwalsh
    @kristinerwalsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Val Kilmer never made a bad movie . And I love the fact that he is intelligent ! Lots of actors are not . Or if they are you would never know it.
    Very sorry about the throat cancer. Happy it brought him back to a loving , meaningful relationship with his children. ♥️

    • @mercuriocavaldi2208
      @mercuriocavaldi2208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      relly, he made a great number of awful movies.

    • @33Donner77
      @33Donner77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "The Island of Dr. Moreau" for one . . . . . . Kilmer difficult actor to work with.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I don't get is that Val is obviously so intelligent, yet he runs straight to toxic pharma for cancer treatment with no cures, only "remission." It either kills you or leaves you permanently scarred. David Bowie was another and millions more killed by treatment.
      Did not one of his friends suggest to him Gershon or Chris Beats Cancer therapies that address the cause, change the lifestyle and don't make the cancer worse???

    • @narrimanduplessis7334
      @narrimanduplessis7334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Empathy4Animals411 I agree!
      ...but we will never know the reason, even 'intelligent' people have for doing what somebody else might not...when you stare death in the face, YOURSELF!...it's a completely different ball game! 🙏Salute to all survivors 🥰 I simply love VAL KILMER FOREVER!...♥️
      #lovevalkilmer

    • @xrrrismickey
      @xrrrismickey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The island of Dr Moreau is terrible

  • @darkphoenix3864
    @darkphoenix3864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Don’t care what he looked liked as he got old Val is Val a great actor and always our huckleberry!

  • @ginaheaton2203
    @ginaheaton2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    How cruel the things that the media said about him. How sad about the throat cancer.

    • @cambec
      @cambec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The media seldom does anything good for our society. Back when they reported the actual news, fairly, balanced and with integrity, the media was a vital part of our society. Now, 97% of it is a cancer.

    • @Mikedenison195
      @Mikedenison195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, how’re you doing...?

  • @samross8259
    @samross8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    It seem like Val made a large effort to have the relationship with his children that he always wanted. I consider him successful for that 💟

  • @staind.raindrop
    @staind.raindrop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    So... he made enemies for having high standards? No one bothered to mention why people hated working with him or whether it was for valid reasons or not. If his refusal to compromise his standards was taken as him challenging the authority of his superiors, then maybe it's the control obsessed superiors that were the difficult ones? This just leaves me with more questions than I had before it.

    • @steveschu
      @steveschu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was thinking the exact same thing.

    • @jayr.7209
      @jayr.7209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everyone in Hollywood sounds like that. This Val kilmer thing seems much more sinister.

    • @AnyoneCanSee
      @AnyoneCanSee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A director is in charge for a reason. I'm sure every actor on set thinks they know better and would like to do everything their own way. When the director allows that you end up with chaos. If he wants everything his own way do what Tom Cruis did, create your own projects and be a part of every decision. Don't just come on set demanding everyone else dances to your tune including the other actors.
      What makes you think he knew better than all the other people working on the project? If so where his his directorial breakthroughs?

    • @rezarfar
      @rezarfar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You work with people every day, doing everyday jobs, there are hundreds of people on set, many are paid peanuts.
      Most actors or actresses don't act like dicks, but the ones who do, will get singled out. Most people on set don't get paid enough for that shit.
      Val Kilmer was a dick.

    • @RickyRei1
      @RickyRei1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah I was never really clear of why Val was a "difficult person to work with." I feel like it's never been explained too well???

  • @funkysouldancer1
    @funkysouldancer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Val Kilmer looks pretty good for someone who went through one of the most brutal cancers..He's 62 so he is not going to age backwards (plastic surgery) like a lot of actors...Very sad he had to go through cancer without a partner but i'm sure his kids were there along side him..That's the cruel thing about Hollywood..They love you when you are on top but gain an inch of weight and they humiliate you..Val paid his dues and is one of the best actors to come out of Hollywood..Thank you for your contribution to the movie industry..Playing Jim Morrison was one of your best roles...♥️

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's only in remission, as he went through multiple rounds of chemotherapy which only make the cancerous cells spread, and radiation, which burns the inside of your throat. He's obviously so intelligent, yet he runs straight to toxic pharma for cancer treatment with no cures. It either kills you right away or comes back, leaving you permanently scarred.
      Actually it was his children that convinced him to get the poison therapy, not knowing any better. I can't believe that no one he knew suggested non-toxic therapies like Gershon or Chris Beats Cancer that address the cause, change the lifestyle and don't make the cancer worse. What a shame.

    • @Justin.Martyr
      @Justin.Martyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *I have NOT had a GirL Friend for 7 5 years!!! & you know Wut?*
      *I'm NOT LoneLy & I am One of God's PeoPLe!!!*

  • @ryanguzman3203
    @ryanguzman3203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Not many comments for "The Ghost and the Darkness", which is one of my all-time favorites. Always have enjoyed Val's movies, and I'm sorry to hear about this throat cancer.

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes...I couldn't remember the name. Thanks! I saw one of the train carriage in a museum on a visit to Kenya. Neat story with man eaters.......

    • @thecoulee1121
      @thecoulee1121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ‘The Salton Sea’ as well..

    • @Truth18143
      @Truth18143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah that was a good one as well.

    • @narrimanduplessis7334
      @narrimanduplessis7334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% 🎯! For the life of me, I fail to understand how the bloody dickens these yuppy snothead 'reporters' dare comment on anybody's weight!
      Most of the blooming time they are young people with old people's bodies themselves! The man has been fighting cancer and you expect him to maintain his youthful appearance!!! Get a life you piece of crap! Go get cancer and see how you deal with it 😤Btw...I'm a senior with the shape and figure of a 17 year old because I chose a more holistic approach to my health issues...
      So to all these modern day sensation seeking ' reporters' get a decent job and earn your income honestly! 💥

    • @MrReymoclif714
      @MrReymoclif714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The SALTON Sea was intricate!

  • @kevinh891
    @kevinh891 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Whatever you say about Val Kilmer. I can say he never failed to entertain me. Pretty much every movie he made has been great....

    • @FabzRoma-is3sq
      @FabzRoma-is3sq ปีที่แล้ว

      Val Kilmer is a professional Artist, not an entertainer/ I think that he arduously endeavours to give his all b/c that is his vocation in life, same as Tom Cruise, Al Pacino, Robert Deniro, and unless they sell out for monetary gain, the cast and director are making films to teach, inspire, evangelize and educate/ Everything in life is theatre/ Entertainment is a moneymaking form of escapism/ Val Kilmer is very passionate about living in Love, Truth and Wisdom/

  • @EdouardGarcia
    @EdouardGarcia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Actor in "top secret", the best comedy's movie I've ever seen!

  • @paddyt4043
    @paddyt4043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "I'll be your huckleberry" is one of the most well delivered lines in my movie watching history

    • @socasack
      @socasack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why Johnny Ringo - you look like someone just walked over your grave.

    • @divershay
      @divershay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Twirling the cup around on his finger like a gun. I crack up every time. So sarcastic lol

    • @denicesanders4586
      @denicesanders4586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're a daisy if you do.

    • @TS-wh4ey
      @TS-wh4ey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One of the best, if not the best
      Doc Holidays of all time

    • @terridorn9077
      @terridorn9077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@socasack LOL, now I have to watch again for the 100th time❤

  • @jossstine5295
    @jossstine5295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    He nailed Holiday. Every time I watch that movie, I see yet, another nuance, and believe me, I already know most of the dialogue. While everyone else were superb, it was his film. Sad for him that he had to go through his battle with cancer pretty much alone. To his critics: just enjoy his movies, you can't possibly know what demons he has encountered.

    • @suebennett9347
      @suebennett9347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We just watched Tombstone last night and flr me he is the highlight of the entire movie.

    • @michekids
      @michekids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed

    • @darleenstrathy6394
      @darleenstrathy6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes he was amazing as Doc Holliday.......

    • @annewilliams5715
      @annewilliams5715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said

    • @michekids
      @michekids ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had a housesitting assignment and watched it again this weekend. Ii never tire of tat huckleberry

  • @Foebane72
    @Foebane72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That's so sweet, Val Kilmer's children helping their dad like that.

  • @danielcaprani5637
    @danielcaprani5637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This guy is not a tragedy, he's a leading light in showing this fickle population how to carry on in the face of adversity God Bless you Val... you are a guarding light in a darkening world🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🔥

  • @jeniselett-stovall6067
    @jeniselett-stovall6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Val Kilmer is a Phenomenal actor, one of the best to do it. I hate that Hollywood and the headlines have disrespected him so much. I'll always be a fan of his.

    • @angelaholmes8888
      @angelaholmes8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah it infuriates me how the media treated him

    • @dasmuss6174
      @dasmuss6174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bloody oath, Fantastic actor 👍🇦🇺🍻

    • @kathleenking47
      @kathleenking47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Modern hollywood is garbage

  • @mikemcgown6362
    @mikemcgown6362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    His suffering is terrible, but I imagine it's even harder on him because of the public eye being on him and discecting his public image. That had to create tremendous personal turmoil for him. I hadn't followed him too closely,, I don't follow any celebrity really, but I did notice his disappearance in recent years. I can only wish him well and pray for the best for him and his children.

    • @TalibanSymphonyOrchestra
      @TalibanSymphonyOrchestra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll give you something to cry about you wussy.

    • @team3383
      @team3383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like yourself, I don't follow any "celebs" or actors or anyone because I have my own life to live and don't drool over what other's HAVE ...
      This guy would have done ANYTHING to beat Tom Cruise to the top of Hollywood - and he would have made it if he hadn't been so BAD at core trying to stop others success instead of working on his OWN success - The Kilmer story is a sad one, but it's what he brought upon himself, nothing else.
      I wish him well in his fight for his healrh.

    • @TalibanSymphonyOrchestra
      @TalibanSymphonyOrchestra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@team3383 Truth

    • @dr.davidenglish778
      @dr.davidenglish778 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mike well put. I feel exactly the same.

  • @kathiv8071
    @kathiv8071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I wish him well!
    Thank You for making this thoughtful video.

  • @patriciadeaves3400
    @patriciadeaves3400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With no hesitation, my favorite is Tombstone♥️. Very happy for you on overcoming your battle with cancer. So happy to see the support from your family.

    • @hurst-cs2jh
      @hurst-cs2jh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Patricia, how are you doing?

  • @randallslinker3775
    @randallslinker3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    His Doc Holliday was badass

  • @maureen2777
    @maureen2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I loved him in Tombstone and the Doors. It sucks that he had cancer, and terrific that he beat it, everyone isn’t so lucky. As far as the media dragging him, that’s what the media does. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately I don't call just being alive "beating" cancer. He has a permanent hole in his throat, can't ever use his voice again, and has said that the cancer treatment was the cause of his suffering, not the cancer. He also said his throat is permanently dry. I think it'd be a horrific way to live.

    • @maureen2777
      @maureen2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Empathy4Animals411 we’re going to have to agree to disagree. I’d much prefer to have a voiceless sister and mother than not having them at all.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maureen2777 It was a blessing when my father died early on in chemotherapy. They had taken out his colon and he didn't want to live like that. You're not thinking of the victims who are suffering. What YOU would prefer is not the point.

    • @maureen2777
      @maureen2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Empathy4Animals411 my sister had 2 y/o twin boys at the time, she was 31, I am certain she’d have preferred to remain alive. My mom flat out told me she didn’t want to die. So my preference aligns with the preference of my people.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maureen2777 The one who's suffering should always take precedence. Val Kilmer flat out said he was suffering, as did my father. As a Christian Scientist, Kilmer also is not afraid to die, as he believes in a joyous afterlife. Those suffering are the VICTIM in the situation, not those who might be left behind.
      People so afraid of death think you only live once. We're not put here to suffer but learn and move on.

  • @SwanSong1234
    @SwanSong1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Val has everything he could ever need. The love and support of his children who see him for who he is.
    That is priceless and the Greatest Award he could ever receive in life❣️

    • @Justin.Martyr
      @Justin.Martyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *I have NOT had a GirL Friend for 7 5 years!!! & you know Wut?*
      *I'm NOT LoneLy & I am One of God's PeoPLe!!!*

  • @kevinhullinger8743
    @kevinhullinger8743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am a survivor of stage4 throat cancer treatment is indescribable. Thank God I’m alive and i can still talk however, 5 years out its still difficult to swallow and depending on the day i wont eat in public. Its really a humbling experience and will bring the most egotistical individual down to earth. 🙏

  • @charleskuss8428
    @charleskuss8428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Leave the man alone, hes a real genius

    • @shesaknitter
      @shesaknitter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see what you did there. Agreed!

  • @N_0968
    @N_0968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That “see myself a sensitive human being but with a soul of a clown” is a Jim Morrison quote.

    • @ericathegypsy4946
      @ericathegypsy4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure is :)

    • @jennyfinney4292
      @jennyfinney4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. 🤦

    • @cgreen1111
      @cgreen1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      and I Love that. What a wonderful way to honor Jim…. “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness. - Oscar Wilde.”

  • @barryrudge1576
    @barryrudge1576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I'm afraid we all grow old and when it comes to looks, time is cruel. At least he hasn't gone under the cosmetic knife. I hope he overcomes his battle with cancer with complete remission

    • @anthonyselby6436
      @anthonyselby6436 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Val was the man when I was a kid.... I remember top guns iceman being such a hotshot dick and his Bruce Wayne was pretty slick .... not to mention Jim morrison

    • @suebennett9347
      @suebennett9347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The best way to grow old is to just except your gray hair and wrinkles and you will be wiser for it😘

    • @gaylefynaut562
      @gaylefynaut562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was true to himself

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly, there is no such thing as "complete remission" after you've had chemotherapy and radiation. It spreads the cancer cells and burns your insides. Even oncologists say they would never recommend chemo to a loved one, yet they do it to patients all the time. I can't believe not one single person he knew suggested Gershon or Chris Beats Cancer therapies to him that actually address the cause, change the lifestyle and heal instead of poison and burn.

    • @1928jazz
      @1928jazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He most certainly has had plastic surgery, as it's quite obvious. I feel bad about his laryngeal cancer...it's a tough one to go through, but he's alive!

  • @carolinebesinger437
    @carolinebesinger437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    God bless him ! What struggles he's very brave. 👍🙏💞

    • @Justin.Martyr
      @Justin.Martyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *I have NOT had a GirL Friend for 7 5 years!!! & you know Wut?*
      *I'm NOT LoneLy & I am One of God's PeoPLe!!!*

  • @karentarr8930
    @karentarr8930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Jim Morrison in my opinion was his greatest, sorry to hear of all the suffering and anxiety he went through, hope he is on the mend

    • @embemm7707
      @embemm7707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought he was incredible as Doc Holliday as well

    • @thewiseguy3529
      @thewiseguy3529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Watch The Saint

  • @everettemartin3401
    @everettemartin3401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thunder heart was a great movie but sad, because of what happened to the Native American Indians, we must remember, honer our Indian heritage. Thank you, Val Killer 🥰🥰🎬🎬📽️📽️

  • @hotbambi2010
    @hotbambi2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So sad he was so talented and handsome

  • @jrfrmem
    @jrfrmem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I loved seeing him in Top Gun Maverick. I’m so glad they put him in the movie. They did it brilliantly. It’s sad what happened to him, but he’s still alive and can still give love to those close to him.

  • @lanablair9973
    @lanablair9973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    He will always be a legend! 💙

    • @natural-born_pilot
      @natural-born_pilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hold up there! You have to be one to be able to always be one. You can’t finish the race without starting.

  • @jacquelinemorales-steffes3262
    @jacquelinemorales-steffes3262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Loved Val Kilmer in “Real Genius” and in “Tombstone” … I also liked him in the “Doors” because he did most or all of his own singings and “The Saint” and “Willow”!!!! Prayers to Him! He has had a difficult Life filled with many obstacles!!!!

  • @patriotrising6214
    @patriotrising6214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An artist who acts his paintings , who could become the portrait of creativity on the canvas . Thank you for your commitment and your legacy of fine acting and films. GOD bless you and yours!

  • @hartleyhare2725
    @hartleyhare2725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "I feel the need..The need for speed!"What a great film!🇬🇧

    • @Rumkitty2000
      @Rumkitty2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sequel is even better!

  • @calmyournerves2951
    @calmyournerves2951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I can't see Val Kilmer being difficult to work with. He is just a misunderstood soul people cannot understand.

    • @CristyB66
      @CristyB66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree.

    • @tommyboy6267
      @tommyboy6267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1:41 Really!!! Just ask the original Director and cast of "The Island of Dr. Moreau". Look up the documentary.

  • @orsolyaritter7292
    @orsolyaritter7292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    He was a genious. A legendary actor. He is a fighter. He is a hero.

    • @poojas1
      @poojas1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was? Still is.

    • @mahnazqaiser3371
      @mahnazqaiser3371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Genius?

    • @poojas1
      @poojas1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mahnazqaiser3371 genius as is brilliant actor I guess

    • @Djblois1
      @Djblois1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was and is not a hero. It is sad that get got sick but he has CONSTANTLY campaigned and told people not to get medical treatment. That is disgusting.

    • @poojas1
      @poojas1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Djblois1 to not get treatment. Wow. Didn't know

  • @RavenBlaze420
    @RavenBlaze420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    my first introduction to Val was Willow as a kid. I thought he was such a cool warrior. Knowing that him an the princess of that actually got together an had kids pleases me very much cause you could see the chemistry they had.

  • @nancyhillard6456
    @nancyhillard6456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Loved him as Doc Holiday.

    • @alanhowe225
      @alanhowe225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Iv'e got two guns, One for each of you." an obscure line perhaps, but pure Val.

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. I believe Val's Doc is a universally loved character. That's why it's strange that this vid seemed to go out of its way to not mention it.

  • @3dmazeXyz
    @3dmazeXyz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He will always be my Iceman 🖤 In school back in the 80s I learned to flip a pen between my fingers just because I admired him so much :)

  • @humanalsowritterstephanie2195
    @humanalsowritterstephanie2195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2021 - 2023 still looking at Val & if he had asked someone who actually knew who he is not acting, Then he might of not been lonely , Jack & Mercedes 💕

  • @andydudley1775
    @andydudley1775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i rate val as one of our best actors .he a fighter he still with us and i hope he gets better.

  • @mrwonderful2081
    @mrwonderful2081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    One of the finest actors off all time.

  • @deansnipah1392
    @deansnipah1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The documentary he made "Val" is a masterpiece!

  • @kennethwoodward4669
    @kennethwoodward4669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Val Kilmer has probably next to one of the greatest actors I have ever watched you left out his roll in Thunderheart which was an awesome movie as well he’s a great actor I’d like to see more before he decides to retire but he’s left a very impressive legacy in movies !

    • @Justin.Martyr
      @Justin.Martyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *I have NOT had a GirL Friend for 7 5 years!!! & you know Wut?*
      *I'm NOT LoneLy & I am One of God's PeoPLe!!!*

    • @lingsuyen9509
      @lingsuyen9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks ! I was just trying to recall the title of the movie , and scrolling the Comments ....
      He was SO good-looking there !
      I still have that video tape . I actually bought it off the video rental long ago ! 😅

    • @barrymaxwell8654
      @barrymaxwell8654 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kilmer superior in every way travolta inferior in every way hollywood scum

  • @jangles1839
    @jangles1839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Did y'all know that Val Kilmer has a book called "I'm Your Huckleberry"? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🙄

    • @cgreen1111
      @cgreen1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it’s brilliant

  • @ericathegypsy4946
    @ericathegypsy4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved Val as Jim Morrison. That was before my time,but I love Jim and The Doors. Val played him so well. Will always be one of my favorite movies. Had no idea he was hard to work with. So sad what happened to him. Great video,Blessed Be.

    • @ericathegypsy4946
      @ericathegypsy4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @James Hama I'm groovy,thank you. How are you?

  • @aprilgosa5779
    @aprilgosa5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God did heal you Val he also got you to good Dr's and he will restore your beautiful voice keep the faith

    • @walkwithtom236
      @walkwithtom236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He into Christian Science which is a mind science cult he has no faith

    • @roden70
      @roden70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I call BS. You can't grow back vocal cords.

  • @inmydarkesthour2278
    @inmydarkesthour2278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He looks so much older than 62...not saying it in a mean way but really shows how much cancer sucked out of him....I hope all goes good for him

  • @margaretWestminster
    @margaretWestminster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think he is Top Man. Seems like a very sincere and easy to be with. excellent actor as well ❤️

  • @Rodmic-hd9pn
    @Rodmic-hd9pn ปีที่แล้ว +6

    His life has been so tragic

  • @bonniehyatt952
    @bonniehyatt952 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You for sharing and thank you Mr Kilmer for being you🙏🫶

  • @amymaddy108
    @amymaddy108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At First Sight with Mira Sorvino, is my fave film of Kilmer.

  • @lorrainefidler1035
    @lorrainefidler1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He was great in the “Doors”!😊

  • @Ansmousoeesoj
    @Ansmousoeesoj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His role as Doc in Tombstone was his best work in my opinion

  • @daytonvause8714
    @daytonvause8714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my all time favorites. Thank you.

  • @silvanatriches6762
    @silvanatriches6762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for existing and to have delighted us with your acting be blessed

  • @ASCENDINGTOHIM
    @ASCENDINGTOHIM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hands down Tombstone ! Best performance ever ! ICONIC ….it will live long after us all … Forever when reminded of Doc Holiday he always appears with Kilmer’s face …

  • @faydenereed4056
    @faydenereed4056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He’s a great actor!

  • @828enigma6
    @828enigma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved him in Tombstone. His Southern accent and one liners were perfect .

  • @jh9391
    @jh9391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Val sounds like a great Dad! Dads and daughters rock the world. And I love my Dad forever💓💕

  • @starriderstudios
    @starriderstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. I had no idea. Amazing story

  • @ritasmith1490
    @ritasmith1490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    one of my favorite actors!

  • @michaelw7800
    @michaelw7800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    People can be cruel. We are not all the same,and a few amazing souls are truly unique.

  • @youngbear2423
    @youngbear2423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The greatest actor of all time, , Thunder heart. And Jimbo

    • @TS-wh4ey
      @TS-wh4ey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was great along side Michael Douglas in the movie
      Ghost and the Darkness
      Alot of folks not familiar with that one.

    • @terridorn9077
      @terridorn9077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TS-wh4ey Oh the one about the lions? Oh my a true story & I just couldn't watch again because it scared the heck out of me plus knowing it was true!!

  • @aca2883
    @aca2883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Val Kilmer is a perfectionist. He believes in his acting and art, which Hollywood couldn’t handle!

    • @natural-born_pilot
      @natural-born_pilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but don’t you think that blowing off a shot at a hamburger commercial because he didn’t believe in burgers is totally stupid not to mention a poor decision in his occupational progress. I’m sure there is one person out there great full to him for that.

  • @ezrabarkley2574
    @ezrabarkley2574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of MY FAVORITE actors

  • @countrygirlxo7188
    @countrygirlxo7188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I fell in love with Doc Holiday as a young girl 💕
    I’m glad he’s doing better. Sometimes life makes you go through hard lessons so you can become the person you’re meant to be

  • @robertwaid3579
    @robertwaid3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was Magical 😀🤣, as well as enlightening. Just recently A couple of My Friends have recovered from Throat Cancer, over the Past Four too Five years.
    Too talk about The Actor Val Killer, he has always been A Astronomically Talented Actor! Plus his Film or Stage presence is so in Measurable, being that He puts so Much of His Soul, Heart, & Himself, into all that He did throughout His Life & His Career.
    The portion You spoke of His Ex Wife, was very coincidental as I think 🤔 I'd heard that Happened? But yet I was never for certain. The film they did Together "WILLOW" is a favorite of Mine. His Ex-Wife exceptionally Gorgeous, & Very Talented as well.
    IT is very Tragic, what has come of this Man's Life. But it isn't over Yet?
    For even though He has had Illness, Troubles, Heartache, n Heartbreak.
    By the Sounds of His Actions n Kid's, plus His willingness to Forge A Head this Man is not Finished with Life.
    Thank You for sharing this with US.
    Wyoming, Robert, 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸👀👀👍👍🙏🙏🙏

  • @xxsparrowxx8568
    @xxsparrowxx8568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Tbh after watching his documentary…how dare they!! It pisses me off how he was treated!! He is one of the greats and he should still be in movies ect. Is this how you guys do it in Hollywood? Just let your friends go down like that huh? Speaks volumes about who THEY are!

  • @tarariggs999
    @tarariggs999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    😞 what a great actor he is

  • @maxxcherry6955
    @maxxcherry6955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm just glad he got to be in the new top gun movie !

  • @christopherince5113
    @christopherince5113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So sad 😢God bless you sir.

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I see nothing tragic about Val Kilmer's life. We all have had tragic things happen in our lives, parents die, siblings eventually die, friends die. But this video makes it sound like Val Kilmer's life was one big tragedy after another. I respectfully disagree. As long as he's alive, it's still good for him.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly there's not much quality of life after getting several rounds of chemotherapy in addition to radiation. He survived the poison and burning, but it's only in remission. I feel sorry for him that he didn't seek other treatment that heals by addressing the cause and changing the lifestyle, diet, toxicity etc.

    • @natural-born_pilot
      @natural-born_pilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree and the ‘feel sorry for me’ video was just squeezing the bucks out further and worked as planned because it added more fans who probably didn’t think he was all that good before. You are spot on with “ we all have tragic things happen in our lives” and many, many more people have a whole lot more. So all those bleeding hearts who struggle daily to make ends meet he’s got tons of money.

  • @cambec
    @cambec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Love Val Kilmer. So many great movies. I watch Tombstone often for one reason, Val acting as Holiday. Cult following level.

  • @johnz5276
    @johnz5276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love Val & wish you all the best and thankyou for leaving us films where we can remember how we want, you are great

  • @superdayday3462
    @superdayday3462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video of his life and history of what he has done and where he is going, he still has that spark and wish him best in his life moving forward, if he can also wish him luck in a new relationship that also is good with his kids, as they are part of his life forever.

  • @bobbyscarfo2544
    @bobbyscarfo2544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm sure Val doesn't read anything in the media, or posts on TH-cam....but.... if he does happen to read this....Val, you are appreciated much more then you'll ever know. I can't speak on behalf of anyone else, but as a 55 year old man, your gift on the big screen is greatly appreciated by this fan. The Doors and Heat are 2 of my all-time favorite flicks....I wish you nothing but good health moving forward! God Bless and thank you for your contributions to the Arts.... through your performances, you helped many of us escape our own problems in life, if only for a few hours.

  • @pjhsrandomvid5789
    @pjhsrandomvid5789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've start being a fan of Val Kilmer when he played the role of Moses in "The Prince of Egypt"(1998).♥️♥️

  • @gorethegreat
    @gorethegreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @strangeuniverse1199
    @strangeuniverse1199 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy was always a super stud somebody to look up to, sorry to hear about his recent health problems.

  • @maralisil
    @maralisil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Head and neck cancer is a bitch! It affects you in such a public yet personal way. ❤

  • @sherrihero9260
    @sherrihero9260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Val Kilmer is one of my favorite all-time actors and that really bugs me that that he had to quit acting because of his cancer. I think they oughta make some roles for actors who have got disabilities now. He will always be one of my favorites. If I was asked who I wanted meet it would be him

  • @susanjoseph2380
    @susanjoseph2380 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad val is better . He's very handsome loved all his movies💕

  • @tia8007
    @tia8007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Val always will be the Man

  • @jackiefitzpatrick2906
    @jackiefitzpatrick2906 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His movies were all good and i still enjoy watching them. He is extremly talented .

  • @khriscaplinger4506
    @khriscaplinger4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm glad that Val kilmer was able to defeat cancer but it did a number on him unfortunately it was such a downer seeing that Val was talking with a microphone in his throat just like jack klugman was doing in his final years, tombstone was one of the best westerns ever and Val kilmer was the best doc Holliday ever and thunderheart was a great movie and was a true story

    • @Rumkitty2000
      @Rumkitty2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! I almost forgot about that movie.

    • @divershay
      @divershay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a microphone. That's a the voice he can manage now because of a trach in his throat.

  • @emmasalerno6899
    @emmasalerno6899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always loved him🙏💖💖

  • @colleenpompey2646
    @colleenpompey2646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you Val you give me inspiration.