r/MaliciousCompliance - Smug Manager DARES ME to Sue Them! I'm a LAWYER.
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- r/maliciouscompliance OP is a lawyer who decides to help his friend with her little situation. When trying to resolve the issue, he gets someone on the phone who wont cooperate and is very rude. The person then makes a huge mistake and DARES a lawyer to sue them! Worst mistake ever!
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I work in collections in California, and "I am represented by an attorney" means you do not contact the consumer again. Not by phone. Not by mail.
They definitely F'd up.
Unfortunately collections have different regulations state to state outside the base Federal regulations. And some of them can use pretty awful tactics because of poor state regulation.
@@sonyamiller4853 It's not even that. Vast majority of collections cases don't have a leg to stand on, does the debt exist? Eh, probably. But they basically buy it in packages for pennies on the dollar and generally do not get the documents required to prove that the debt actually exists and if it's an old debt that it passed through however many companies proving all the transfers of ownership of said debt. Next last part is the fact that few debts are worth actually suing over even if the paperwork is in perfect order because the cost to sue and pay off the lawyer vs the balance comes out negative. Finally there's the issue of someone being judgement proof, if your debtor is broke, then even a court order won't do much for you because you can't collect money that they simply don't have.
So the moment there's a lawyer involved it'll fail on at least one of those 4 counts and best you can do is hope that they eventually come into some money, decide to start fixing their credit score and pay you to get it off their credit reports, or sell it forward at a loss and make it someone else's problem.
"we're attempting to contact a mr (grandson)." me: "certainly. he lives in a tent somewhere in the brush field behind the mcdonald's on meadowcreek road." -click-
@@sonyamiller4853 Except...in this case the debt itself did not exist, so it was illegal to begin with. The person they were sending letters to didn't owe anything.
The debt of a relative ceases to exist at death. Any attempt to collect from living relatives is illegal. Sadly if a relative does send money to pay a part of the debt then the relative becomes responsible for said debt.
"Bob, are you busy right now?"
"No?"
"Come with me, please?"
*Locks Bob in storage outside.*
Bob....... the builder?????????????
Too bad we don't know what happened to the arrogant manager after that... one of a manager's jobs is to ensure that the company they work for doesn't get in any legal trouble, and this manager failed miserably at that.
I'd like to think they got her name from OP or something... And then legal stormed into her office and started beating her over the head with a huge printout of all the laws and policies she just broke.
for the lawyer story with the friend getting collections notices: Personally i'd have STILL sued and when the opposing lawyer called to ask for a settlement i'd have said "nope. I'm suing you. Your boss ASKED me to sue you so that's what's going to happen." and then if I was as skilled as the OP was claiming to having a 100% victory chance for that lawsuit i'd have gone through with it, won, and sued them for everything they had. but that's just me
That's not how lawsuits work. There is a limit to what he can get (compensatory in most cases though this probably statutory and reasonable punitive which courts generally tie to the previous damages). It wouldn't be worth it to drag it out unless he can make it a class action but those are incredibly difficult and time consuming for what I'm assuming is a lawyer at a solo or small firm. Whatever they won wouldn't be a drop in the bucket to a debt collector and would like cost more than he'd win.
@@mse326 The other problem with taking it through the courts is you need to go through the drawn out process of discovery (which is mostly drawn out because the insurance company is going to be assholes and try to bury you in paperwork even if they know it will piss off the judge), cross check records, determine damages, etc.
And if it's converted into a class action then you have to do that for almost everyone that signs on which increases the paperwork exponentially for each additional person in the class.
Also, isn't that all up to OP's friend? If he said to drop it, then as his lawyer, OP must drop the case... right? IDK since I'm not a lawyer...
Perhaps it's just daily occurrence for people dabbling in laws... But for normal people, dealing with laws is time consuming and very exhausting.
In some jurisdictions it can also hurt you not to accept a reasonable settlement offer. You aren't supposed to waste judiciary resources for pettiness ...
@@casekocsk yes and no, it depends on the rules for the state bar and how far they have to carry the "zealous advocate" requirement of being a lawyer. Some times you can over ride the client if you think it's in their best interest. But at the same time the client can always tell you to take a hike and accept on their own.
I love the "malicious compliance" stories. They are exactly what I would do. I'm to stupid for pro revenge and I'm to kind and soft for nuclear, but doing EXACTLY what someone tells me to do, you bet!
Never thought of it like that. A very good point.
The last story.
It takes a real man to apologize
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Willing to bet that Ms Bill Collections manager was thinking that this wasn't a lawyer. Too bad he was a " sunflower lawyer not a corny one".
So, just the fax, the actual fax then..man, that lawyer stuffed up
I would have walked right up to Bob from the first story, said "Come on, I'm collecting you. You tool."
you forgot an s.
OP really didn't care about cleaning up did he? 😉
I like how that last one ended. Very big of the guy to apologize. We need more of that in the world. Also, cool to see another appearance by the sunflower lawyer!
Probably had a really awful day with things just piling up to the breaking point so all it took was one more trivial thing to snap. I've had days like that so I know the feeling
The 🌻🌻 guy! He is lucky to have a friend like him. He need to send him at least a big bag of sunflower seeds for everything he has done for him. What a nice dude.
When I saw this comment I thought there was a mistake and we got the same episode today
The sunflower seeds makes me laugh..
A neighbour in my block took offence to my balcony being a lovely flower filled space. I wasn't sharing with the 'community'. Actually made multiple complaints which caused me to get a fine notice, that I was able to have dismissed. They kept it up, and as per regulations I had to be notified of any complaints, even non substantial about my rental. All related to my bottom floor balcony, my plants, watering, not being apart of the community blah blah
So... I took sunflower seeds and planted them in all the garden beds on the property ground floor, think the block management making it look nice type beds, someone was hired to tend to them and cut the lawns deal. The landscaping. The management for the block asked me if I did it... Yes, yes I did. I'm sharing my plants with the community. What's the issue?
They are complaining about the sunflowers that had beautiful heads and were about 5ft dotting the property.... I got told they wouldn't be an issue anymore. 2mths later they were moving out. It's a 2yr min lease option where I am.. they were here for 14mths. I don't have confirmation, but based on what was said just before and the day of moving, plus my door being defaced I think they got evicted lol
Right
@@kaddy2 hahaha! I love it!
I planted sunflowers once 6 years ago. My garden is just full of them every year...these things are prolific! Beautiful flowers. Good for you for sharing lol
@@brianshissler3263 Tiger Lilies are the same way. They'll spread and take over everywhere.
I’m a shift manager for a retail drug store chain. One day I start my afternoon shift when a guy complains to me about my morning photo tech. This employee usually gets compliments not complaints. I took down his complaint and did my usual stuff.
Fast forward 2 hours later the guy calls apologizing profusely for his behavior. His dad had just passed away and he was doing photos for the funeral. Seeing his dad’s pictures all day got the better of him and he took it out on the employee and me.
He returned to the store the next day to apologize to the employee and to find my manager. He begged my manager to make whatever paper trail there was of his complaint disappear. My manager told him no worries.
When my grandma died of cancer, grandpa kept getting bills even after the insurance company said he had paid everything they owed. He was very upset because he was grieving, and she had suffered a lot, so it was a painful ordeal. In his case, he called the insurance rep and complained each time he got a bill, and she confirmed he had paid in full and handled it. I'm not sure what action was taken to make the billing stop, because they took care of it completely after it happened a few times. We've always thought it was very slimy for them to send duplicate bills to a grieving spouse, like they were hoping he wouldn't notice and just throw them more money, but after several decades I've realized it was probably just incompetence and indifference. Lots of people don't want to pay debts, so they didn't bother to check their records and correct them. That's a different kind of evil, because they only care when their mistakes cost them money.
2 stories: First - a friend had just moved and was trying to settle old cable/internet bill to set up new account. Collection company called and started using high pressure tactics to get paid. He was trying to improve credit since he was about to graduate his tech school and enter working world, so he paid - about $95, not slot but enough when you’re starting out. A couple months later he gets bill from actual cable provider, what he paid was never applied to bill. Luckily he had receipt/ cancelled check to prove he paid. Second story - hubby and I were buying a house. During the credit check part, a collection company crawled out of the woodwork and tried collecting on a gas card/credit card they claimed had unpaid balance. Again, we were luckily with same bank for many years (and I saved old bank statements/canceled checks for several years knowing we were going to try for a mortgage one day) and we had proof that we had paid. Just a bit of advice - if you do have an unpaid/past due bill that collections might call you on, go to the company (medical, cable, credit card, etc) directly and pay them. Then get a zero balance statement printed and mailed to you - then if collections call you, you have proof of payment and can joyously tell them what to do with themselves!
Welcome to corporate society.
Fifth story -- I was working at an office supply store as the cashier and this guy was having a bad day. It could be considered abusive to some (most?), but my thinking is until it truly is abusive, I let customers vent. He vented! At one point he did apologize for taking it out on me. He was having a bad day, and have I ever had one? I explained that there have been some mornings that I get angry that the water is touching me as I am showering. He laughed and left. A few weeks later he came back in and told me, "I was thinking about you as I was showering this morning." I seductively replied, "oh, really?" He blushed and said, "no, I mean I woke up in a bad mood and remembered what you said about the water touching you. I broke out with a grin and proceeded to smile as I was getting ready for work. I just wanted to say thanks for letting me vent and not take it offensively." I told him he was welcome. He left. My manager heard my comments and wanted to know if he wanted to know the details. I smiled and told him I do not think so. That poor manager overheard a lot of strange comments from me and he decided he never wanted to know.
I had a similar situation when my brother died .He left some debts,and I was told by his bank not to pay ,as debts die with the person.Heard nothing after Initial contact until bout a year later.I recieved a letter from one company demanding to know if brothers estate was sorted and a request for me to pay .I phoned and lost it, reminding them that had recieved written onfirmation after his death stating he had left no money.Also said they were totally unprofessional for contacting a grieving relative.
I dealt in debt collections in Texas for 18 years, for a financial institution. Texas is a VERY creditor UNfriendly state. Many of the laws protect the consumer, and one of those laws that we had to abide by was this (not meant as legal advice), "If a debtor contacts a creditor (typically in writing) and tells the creditor to stop contacting the debtor by phone or letter, then the creditor MUST comply." Period, no arguments. Now, can the creditor go through the court system and sue or report the debt to the credit reporting agency? Sure. But, that goes to another level. And even if they DO sue and get judgement in their favor, Texas is a "No Garnishment" state, so good luck on for them getting their money. There are some exceptions to the "no garnishment". Taxes, and child support are two of those. Pay the government and pay for your kids.
Glad to hear that child support is not included in the “you don’t have to pay your debts” policy.
@@stephanien6237 Yes, I agree. It takes two to make a baby. As a side note, Texas is a 'no alimony' state.
I live in Texas and worked with an attorney that dealt in family law and the "No Garnishment" law is great for certain things like falsified medical bills and an ex spouse getting a boobjob on your stolen credit card lol however no matter the state's laws the government can always gets theirs.
@@MichaelS537 oh yes. I've dealt with the false medical debt.... And STILL deal with it. I have gone through all the trouble of proving the debt was resolved (10 years ago). And then, a few months go by, and I get the SAME BILL again. I finally told them that I was going to stack up all the letters and bills that they sent and am going to show it to the EPA. There must be some law against wasting that much paper. It stopped happening, mainly because the rep I talked to couldn't stop laughing at the company's absurdity
@@joleenphillips2415 that is a great one. I just got done dealing with a doctor's office double billing
This has become my go to “listen while
working” channel.
TH-cam vanced let's you turn off screen while listening to TH-cam for free. It's been a blessing to me while working
for me it's "listen to while driving to/from work"
Yessss this and Storytime.
Always listening while in the garden or cooking.
Same here, plus a couple more with upbeat, real person reading.
The fact this lawyer is the same lawyer from the sunflower story makes me super happy! I love sunflower guy.
link? i need the sauce
Story 2: Opposing attorney realized that 1) The company f'ed up...BAD. 2) The company doubled down and f'ed up even worse by directly contacting the client after being informed that they were represented by an attorney. 3) The company would end up owing the client way more than the parent's bill after going to court. The Opposing lawyer was LUCKY they settled.
Story 3: After receiving the threatening email with the PDF release...I would have stated that I need a WET INK copy of the written release & until then I keep sending the fax.
Story 4: Damn cop refused to crowbar his wallet out for a buck but instead gave WARNINGS to OP for doing their job...I want to know how blocking the bathroom is "interfering"?
I say #3 is a bad idea because then the lawyer could come right back and demand the same wet ink copy from OP. A PDF signature is legal.
Bob is not a tool. Bob is a stool and not the kind you sit on.
Sandwich story: When handed the phone, I would have told the boss that I am only doing what you told me to do just a few hours ago.
You better have written proof of that when going confrontational. That's actually advice: whenever you are asked to do something you don't like at work, make sure to create paper trail. Either ask for an email, so things don't get lost 😉, or, if your boss knows he is doing something shady and tries not to create a paper trail, you can send him a confirmation mail for his orders.
Covering your ass being needed is never an indication of a healthy workplace relation with your superiors, but sometimes one can't be a chooser.
I was in that position once and when I left I took gigabytes worth of communication data with me, just in case. I never needed to use it and I'm not proud of it. But it feels good to know that I wouldn't have been the one hanging for it; or at least not the only one ...
@@brag0001 I always got written confirmation of any orders that I was not sure about. The exception to my doing that was when working non-permanent or non-career jobs.
But we can't make bob the builder jokes without him being a tool.
I have worked collections and once a lawyer/attorney was mentioned, we ceased all communications with said client. They fucked up badly.
My MIL passed away but kept getting bills for her cable service. I tried to call and cancel the service, but they would not talk to me. They would only talk to my MIL. I told them she was dead. They said sorry but we can only talk to the account holder. So I told them, "My MIL is dead. Her house has been sold. Her will has been read. Her assets have been dispersed. This is your problem now." And I hung up. I hope they have someone who knows how to handle this, because surely this isn't the first time this has happened?
They COULD just try and hire a medium to contact MIL.
@@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith Or, Gary could have given them a medium's phone number and said "To resolve your dilemma, please call this number".
2nd story. I work for a bank and I can tell you that what OP said is true. Depending on the timeframe, but they could have logged a complaint with the CFPB as well. The settlement amount could have easily been 5 figures at the very least. The manager most likely lost their job because their actions could have cost that collection agency their license to operate thus forcing them to go out of business not to mention the fines they would have incurred.
That's the problem with bluffing - there is almost always someone willing to call you on it.
Lawyer story, the lawyer missed a golden opportunity, he should have advertised and started a class action on contingency
???
Basically he's saying that the lawyers should have sent out a notice to every person who could also have potentially been illegally receiving bills from the ambulance company and then potentially doing a lawsuit with a loooot more people
Also by contingency I believe they get paid out of the winnings the benefit I believe(not a lawyer) is the pay day can be higher for him but also riskier since there is no guarantee of winning and it’s beneficial for the clients cause they don’t need to worry about loosing their savings paying for a lawyer
That manager (if she really was a manager) likely thought the OP was lying about being a lawyer. Thing is, lie or not, an employee acting in a professional capacity has a duty to follow certain rules. Break the rules, your company pays. Piss off your company, it's no longer your company.
The cop needing the bathroom story made me laugh and reminded me of a simalar problem I had while working a a fast food resuant. We the staff gave surqity and police free coffe on our night sifts and allowed them to use the bathroom which wasnt open to the public, but our boss didnt like that. We were told if we did it agin we would be firer. When we told the custosmers this they stoped coming to the burger bar. Within 3 months we were robbed 5 times. After hiring an exspensive consultant they found out that us suppling a cup of cooffee and use of bathroom to these custorms was what had been keeping us safe. We were alowed to give these custorms coffee and bathroom privliges back
I don't get what these managers get out of acting this way. Do they all turn into arseholes come promotion time?
@@tkps It's not as if the manager has to keep cleaning the bathrooms lol. Also having cops there regularly would have made other customers feel safer too. Not just staff.
Long ago I worked nights at a nursing home that was located on the frontage road along a major interstate. We weren’t supposed to ever open the doors to any one except the next shift, deliveries, or EMS if we had to call them. During an unprecedented snowstorm that closed the interstate for 2 days there were a lot of vehicles basically just parked out there. I’m sure any motels along the road were packed full of travelers with no where to go. Exception - over the road truckers who opted to stay in their rigs. If they tapped at the door, we let them in - bathroom, splash of water in their faces, fresh coffee, maybe a trip to our vending machines, or a few minutes in front of the weather channel on the tv in our resident/family lobby. A few state troopers or DOT workers may have come in as well - checking in on us, as well as using facilities. Other shifts followed suit. Most of us lived close by so local travel wasn’t impeded - we weren’t snowed in. The interstate was only closed because the weather system basically moved east along that same route and with lake effect snow and wind the DOT plows weren’t able to keep up, or the blowing snow and ice made it so unsafe they just closed a many miles long section of road. Only fall out I recall was a lot of thank you calls overloading the poor reception person, a few thank you cards/notes, and strange glances from some managers
I think I heard about something like those debt letters, basically from what I heard the estate of the deceased pays the debt, but the people the debt is owed to will attempt to get you to make even a small payment toward that debt, because if you do they can then transfer the debt onto you and it becomes your debt that you have to pay.
Sneaky!
The story about how the Sunflower lawyer helps his friend reminded me of when my mom died. We got multiple copies of her death certificate and mailed them out to every company who mattered. Even for the store credit cards.
One company refused, stating that her death certificate could've been forged. Wtf? It's a State Issued Certificate, with all sorts of information regarding the State, including a copy of our State's Governor.
Long story short, they insisted on suing for her measly $50 balance.
I show up to court with a file folder packed with copies of the medical records pertaining to her death, the funeral home paperwork pertaining to her cremation, more copies of her death certificate, all in triplicate, AND her urn containing her cremains.
When the case was called I went to the defense table, laid out three piles of the papers, with my mother's urn in front of my pile.
The judge took one look at the urn, looked at HIS papers for the case, looked at the lawyer for the stupid department store and asked him if he REALLY wanted to go through with this, and pointed at the urn.
The judge asked me if I had a lawyer. I said No, your Honor, they're trying to sue my mom and the dead can't hire an attorney. I'm just here to provide her proof of being dead.
He smiled, asked for the paperwork, which I handed to the bailiff, then the lawyer for the store suing my mom.
They both read the evidence.
The judge told the high priced attorney for the store that I and my dad had provided proof of death on multiple occasions (I'd sent her certificates via certified mail and kept the receipts), and that us being there was a huge waste of time.
Then the judge looked at me, apologized for my loss then dismissed the case in my favor.
Before he allowed us to leave he turned to me and asked if I wished to counter sue for harassment.
I looked at the store's lawyer, then at the judge. I told him No thank you, your Honor, considering the plaintiff has probably cost themselves hundreds if not a few thousand dollars in fees for trying to get fifty dollars from a dead woman should be enough punishment.
The judge was a very nice man and agreed with me when I added that I COULD counter sue and with that days court case added to my evidence, I could make their wallets cry. But, I wasn't feeling petty so, no to the counter suit.
The judge looked at the store's lawyer and said: You realize she's letting you off easy, don't you?
Lmao. Hectic and stressful day but, the outcome was better than I'd hoped.
Bathroom story reminded me of one when I wad night manager of a chain cub shop. We were told to give LEOs a 10% discount for their meal if they were in uniform or said they were on duty. Was told this was to prevent blowing someone's cover. The Sherriff and wife came in and ordered. Rang them up and he told us he was the Sherriff, so I told him the policy, putting emphasis on the last part. He wouldn't say it, so he didn't get the discount. I thought the Sherriff was always on duty!?!
That fax one is so vicious and nasty, I love it. That's a very scaled up version of the game I've been playing with my roommate's ex's attorney
It had me really rolling on the floor with laughter.
Sunflower 🌻 and guy, that’s a beautiful justice and a excellent tale of legal morality & ethics. Thanks 🙏
At that point; the cop & the bathroom code; the manager/owner should of just given the code instead of beating the employee. Better yet, someone with the receipt give the code!
At the point OP said "a .99 cent cookie will give you the code to access the bathroom" maybe the cop should have stopped trying to intimidate OP and just smiled, given over a dollar, got his receipt and saved 15 minutes of wasted investigation time. The cop was just bullying someone. I'm also annoyed at the manager for not backing up his staff.
I LOVED the sunflower guy! So glad a lawyer is using his power for good!
When my mom passed at the beginning of 2020 I spent the money to hire a lawyer to push the will through probate. She was also full of good advice and helped me in fact tell an ambulance company their issue was with my mother's estate which had $0 funds so you have nothing to collect against. Her credit card company tried the same thing and I even got a bill from some doctor that saw her in a care facility. And I got to tell them all to go piss up a rope. . . in nicer language. The only ones who were persistent was the bank who had, on receipt of her death certificate turned all funds over to me, about a week before they wanted her last credit card bill paid. Sorry, no funds in the estate.
Depending on the state that last part could have gotten you into trouble as those funds would be considered part of the estate.
Last story is why I always treat CS workers with respect, even when I'm having a shitty day. As a former CS worker myself, unless that person is a regular and you know it's out of character, you never know when a rude customer is a Karen.
Working in a mall foodcourt as a Taco Bell Cashier, we had this one elderly couple who were there every day, and one day she came up to the register alone and was rude to me. I asked her what was wrong and she broke down in tears because her husband had died. Needless to say half my store, including myself, went around the corner to give her a HUGE hug.
(When she ordered her food, we took turns going on our breaks to eat with her)
SUNFLOWER GUY!!!!!!!! I need a friend like him!
With Bob...that Tool is always in use. 🤣
"The store was not in the best part of town..." Trust me, you give the cop the bathroom code, and screw the manager, unless you like 1 hour response times.
I don’t even watch tv any more because of channels like these!
Can we talk about how the cop said "i cant believe your interfering with an ongoing investigation". Does this mean op was gonna be falsely accused of a crime cause the cop couldn't use the restroom?
No. It was rather obstruction. Well that's what it would be called where I come from. But then no one here would refuse to give a cop a code for a bathroom and any manager who threatened staff who did would be the ones getting the boot. These stories are shocking to us who don't live in the US.
@@tkps i dunno if a cop comes to me with that id tell him to leave if he's gonna be a dick
He was lucky the workers were from one company and were understanding. Usually a construction site is made up of dozens of subcontractors and if you take someones tool you could get into serious trouble. Like potentially getting your ass kicked.
Give Steve some hotdogs and beans. We can't live on drier lint.
This is not a malicious compliance story but a entitled person story-ish I heard one of my classmates talk about going to the towns local Pizza Hut to get some wings this woman says they are $35.00 and throws them at him (the ad online said they were $25.00 and this woman was the flipping manager!)
The issue also with some things like that is that often the ad online showing the $25 is the ONLINE order price, whether it be app, web or phone. They then have a different price if you go into the store and find its $35.
You also have to be careful with the likes of Pizza Hut because they will often word coupons saying you can get such and such free with the purchase of something else. That happened to me when I was 15, the wording on the coupon was ambiguous and could have been read both ways. It was one of those for garlic bread and pizza. Ended up telling the manager I'll have to go home to get the rest of the money since I only had the money to cover the garlic bread when he was adamant I had to pay for the pizza because the garlic bread was only for free. So I went home, told my grandmother what happened, she called up the store and spoke with the manager, got into an argument after having told him to read the coupon out three times, then hung up. Luckily I had taken a photo of the coupon and saw about printing that and she read it, then called up corporate. Saw a sign up on that PH a week later saying it was under new management and my gran got a letter from corporate a couple of days later with 2 free meal vouches and an apology. Turns out that the manager there had ran the ad locally without corporate permission, and had worded it in such a way to trap diners into thinking the same.
That manager probably thought he/she was talking to some friend who was blowing smoke. Not an actual attorney ready to take it to court.
Sunflower lawyer is awesome.
I understand wanting to give an officer the bathroom code but seriously how is a cop taking a piss considered part of an investigation? Can U imagine someone getting arrested for interfering with an investigation and goes in front of a judge and the cop says he wouldnt give me the code to go pee while I was doing an investigation outside. That was just an odd thing to say. Also, is that a normal subway thing since the code is on the receipt?
Erm... they need to search the restroom for evidence. Such as blood, weapons, narcotics, etc. It's not necessarily he needed to pee but that they needed to search the bathroom as a part of their investigation seeing as the man attacked was just outside the Subway.
@@aaronh.1315 Two things wrong with that. First, the cop did not simply say to open the bathroom, he asked to use it. Second, even if his motive was to look for evidence in there, he would first need to obtain a search warrant to get behind that locked door. The only exception would be "hot pursuit" of a perpetrator he suspected went in there quickly to hide...which wasn't the case, and could not have been the case anyway since the door was coded shut.
@@paul16451 the officer not being able to concentrate properly due to him having a strong urge to pee is impeding with the investigation 😉
I'm joking of course, even though there is a kernel of truth to this. I think the employee handled it really badly. He should have started with: "I got reprimanded just hours ago for giving out that code without a purchase. Please, either buy something to get the code on the receipt, or call my manager: [number]"
@@brag0001 Exactly. OP was being a little obscure, and understandably the cop got irritated. But cops are supposed to be sharper. So the cop could have said "How can I gain access to this mythical bathroom?" and then *LISTENED* to what OP actually said, which was "Buy a .99 cent cookie, and the receipt gives you access." Which is what OP said, or the gist of it. So cop had very very poor listening skills and should be somewhere remote, counting paperclips...not asking questions of suspects and witnesses that he obviously isn't even going to listen to, right?
@@Kayenne54 I read the story as "He understood very well what OP said and was irritated to encounter someone who'd deny a cop access unless he paid for it. Then the cop didn't want to go the easy route and just pay. So instead of just sucking it up he decided to get this sorted for good.".
first story made me bust out laughing. i remember having this happening when i was employed with the Union.
if only he would’ve told bob to follow him to the tool room and locked him inside. get the other workers to come see all of the tools. would be worth getting fired for
The sunflower 🌻 lawyer guy is lit!! I wish he was my friend
Omg, ofc I remember the sunflower lawyer, he is EPIC, I love his story!
That sun flower one was good.
“Interfering an investigation” What would he be investigating in the bathroom? 🤷🏼♀️😂
Don't ask that question...There are some things Sane Man was NEVER meant to know...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan What would he be investigating in the bathroom? (noone has ever accused me of being sane.)
I mean if you pissed or shit yourself you wouldn't really be able to focus on the investigation
@@ShadowEclipse777 That’s a pretty good point 😂
Never dare a lawyer they will do what you dare them to in terms of lawsuits
Poor Stevo... better make sure he gets his sustenance...
You can see why sunflower guy ends up making friends with his clients.
Bob knows absolutely nothing about construction and should not be in charge of any job site. Take that last 30 minutes to clean up for the day 🤷🤦
The sunflower guy is the best.
I'm so sick and tired of companies (ambulance, hospital or otherwise) that send families bills after the actual patient/debtor dies. It perpetuates the myth that the family is responsible for the debt - they're not. When you die, your debt dies with you. The only exceptions for this, are things like homes, cars, etc if you choose to inherit those. These companies use the general public's ignorance of how laws work to take advantage of them. It's disgusting, especially because they're already dealing with grieving.
You should always add: "in my jurisdiction". Where I live the debt doesn't die with the debitor. It becomes part of the heritage. Whether or not you are responsible depends on whether you accept the heritage. If you do, you own it all, the good and the bad ...
I seriously was rolling on the floor with laughter when I heard story # 3. Having worked as an accounting assistant at the finance department, I know the hassle of having a printer/scanner/fax machine at your floor. So him sending 150+ by fax, must have kept that assitant running back and forth to collect all the pages. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Bob is a tool. You should have collected him.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1st story: should have demanded an apology in writing FROM THE MORON OP TALKED TO FIRST, SIGNED, NOTARIZED, AND MOUNTED IN A FRAME.
Here a list people you dont wanna to mess
1)lawyer
2)war veteran
3)soldier
4)police
5)IT Guy
6) those who make/handle your food
Former forensic accountant here - Federal Ant's story is HILARIOUS. If he can't afford a LAWYER how can he afford the financial planners/consultants? They cost MORE than a good lawyer most of the time, and even if they don't normally, they usually get quite a handsome under the table fee for doing stuff that might get them in trouble. That lawyer is a fool. I wish he'd hire me to do his forensic accounting research. Sifting through receipts like that is HOURS of billable time and his client would have to pay for it, lol.
Happy birthday to whoever’s birthday it is
One time I was watching a movie and the threat of IRS sanctions were the subject. The character stated if they wanted all these receipts and records he would give it! Sad thing is they were asking five years and the main character was jamming FAX machines too . His comment, if they want all the information I will give them all the information! When they step on their wiener make sure it is a damn heavy load LOL. It seems it holds true in the lawyer's case in the story too. Never ask for more than you can swallow
This was just what I needed right now. Thank you for what you do!
you are welcome
I'm surprised Bob didn't tell OP to throw all signs in the trash when he was done with the tools.
Obviously Bob is a tool too, so...
That ambulance bill / sunflower lawyer is the freaking man.
Debt collection: I live in Texas. When my husband died, I got tons of medical bills/collection notices addressed to HIM. I simply wrote "addressee deceased" (COULD HAVE USED A RUBBER STAMP HERE) on each one and they melted away!
Brilliant!! Have a great day and feed poor SteveO 😂😂
FDCPA - FYI, it's not "Federal," it's "Fair."
You are correct. That mistake is just one of the reasons my instincts told me both this story and the sunflower story were probably simply creative writing. I haven’t heard or read any lawyer, nor law student, using the casual language OP used in the beginning of today’s story. I have heard some lawyers use such language in an attempt to gain rapport with a jury, but I have not personally witnessed such behavior (casual language usage in a legal setting), even from Gerry Spence.
Okay that dude killed like a half forest in that lawyers office.
Pine forest. Not Sequoia's. Or endangered elms. A specially CAPTIVE pine forest, grown especially to cut down, just when the poor things were feeling safe too...
I had a Ken in my store once. I told him get out or I’ll call the police to get him out. A few days later he was back and asking for the manager. He was shocked it was me. He said he didn’t want to talk to me for obvious reasons. I still helped him and solved his issue. He apologized for his attitude previously and we were cool after that.
Hey Dark Fluff how ya doin? How's Steve-O? Sitting here taking comics out of their bags to replace said bags.
I'm all for malicious compliance...but I won't do it in such a way that will affect someone that's innocent in the matter, unless they are aware of what's going on. I would not have done that to a cop that was just trying to do his job. The cop was too busy to hear the story of "I'm doing what the manager instructed me to do".
"Put all tools not in use away." "Why has work slowed down?" OP "Because the workers have to keep getting the tools back out of storage you told me to put away, even if they ran to the Porta John to take a leak and left the tool sitting there, unused for 3 minutes>"
I wach everyday on the bus to school
I love that I know exactly what story it is based on you saying the sun flower guy lawyer.
Story 2 is very common. In fact, the company does whatever they want. They don't follow the law and they don't care. When someone really sues them their attorneys manage it (they at least have one to manage it). But only the ones that can be troublesome. So, no malicious compliance at all: only a standard procedure scenario.
Argh why? I almost spat out my lunch when I heard “the sunflower guy” 😂😂😂
I thought the signs that the workers made for the tools like "This is mine. Don't touch" was cute.
Kudos to the DD man. Good for him on owning his bad behavior and apologizing.
Sunflower Lawyer Guy certainly gets around. Third story featuring him.
As to the ambulance company they should be investigated for fraud and other ilegal buisness policies and after the investigation and fines have their license revoked and be banned from the industry.
Okay, to be honest, "bathroom for paying customers only" policies should be illegal.
You know bathrooms aren’t free to maintain right?
Great idea! Please come to my current job and clean up the fecal matter that a homeless person decides to smear on the walls and door and . . . Or collect the used condoms left by the hookers. or the needles left or? Finding someone OD'd in the restroom! Let me know when you can start.
And you'll be the very first person to complain when you need to use a bathroom which is filthy and littered with needles, empty heroin bags, wino vomit and piss up the walls.
Last story, If the customer really did want to apologize, then he wouldn't have tried to go to another line. He would have wanted to go to that employee after he had the change of heart, and sought him out to apologize. He only did so because he was trapped.
I love being part of the Fluff Army!
Had a run in with a collection agency in 2016 (I am UK). They started sending letters to my wife about debts that were incurred in 2014. Kinda strange, considering my wife died in 2012. They refused to believe me when I called them, and took me to court. My solicitor showed the court the death certificate, then the magistrate tore the company lawyer a new one. I didn't bother to sue for anything other than solicitors fee, just not worth the hassle.
The fax story is good example of "You get what you asked for, not what you want."
The ambulance service in Scotland is in a terrible state at the moment and it’s causing deaths. My neighbour, Gerry, a 65 year old man weighing only 84 pounds due to health conditions, lived alone and fell in his apartment. He banged his head, injured his arms and legs and couldn’t get up.
When his family couldn’t get him on the phone they went round and couldn’t get in as his key was in the lock. They shouted through the letter box (a small rectangular hole in the front door covered by a flap of metal or plastic to allow letters and small parcels to be posted through the door) and heard a weak reply that he couldn’t get up after falling and banging his head. An ambulance was called and the family were warned that it may take around 10 hours for the ambulance to get to him.
Gerry died on the floor of his apartment, in pain, dehydrated and alone as the ambulance didn’t arrive until 40 hours later. Multiple calls had been made to find out what was happening with the ambulance including calls from his doctor to say that it was imperative Gerry was attended to fast as he was in critical condition. Gerry would have survived if he’d got the medical attention he needed in the usual amount of time it takes for an ambulance to respond to an emergency or even if they had got to him in the 10 hours they said it would take, according to Gerry’s doctor who was quoted in news reports.
Gerry was a lovely, kind and friendly man who didn’t deserve to die this way. My hubby and I miss him greatly. He was always happy to chat with people and would come to our door looking for a chat and to see if we had a spare cigarette. Hubby would buy the tobacco that Gerry smoked and pretend he smoked it too so there was always some there for Gerry. I don’t know why his family didn’t get someone to get them into the house like the police, fire brigade or a lock smith. Maybe they tried but were told to wait on the ambulance, I didn’t know.
RIP Gerry
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Why exactly didn't his family broke the door open, as any sane individual would?
Ignorant question from the U.S. Is Scotland part of the British National Health Service?
2nd story : i would have sued them all their way to hell without even an afterthought, and maybe with a little disturbing pleasure ^^
Fax guy: How can I prove that I'm behaving maliciously toward my ex and not behaving in good faith with my divorce?
Fax guy: Oh, I know.
Wouldn't that threat to claim his financials were fraudulent if he didn't get information a sanctionable offense?
I think Bob wanted the tools tidied up so he could be the only big tool in sight..
I'm pretty sure the second one, the person didn't think he was actually a lawyer, you'd be surprised how many people claim they are a lawyer, and start spitting smart sounding lawyer dribble, but really have no actual idea wtf they are talking about, just to scare people to get what they want. It works more often than you'd think too.
Fluff, I'm going to need some proof Steve-O is ok. We'll get you the subs but you need to work with me here.
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The last story, that wasn't a karen. That was a regular dude who clearly was having an EXTREMELY bad day. Everyone has those days and takes it out on someone else. That doesnt make him a karen.
I feel in the second story, I would have, half way through the phone call said "ok, tell you what, I'll hold, you can check with your legal department in what you're doing breaks the law, then you can come back and we'll resolve this"
Cudos to the last dude.
Debt Collection; Buy Law your NOT responsible for your Parents or anybody else's Bills{except a Legal Partner or your Child under 18}, Unless you signed an agreement to that effect, ONLY your own!!
In America. Not world wide, unfortunately.
I have bad days since my birth.... And I'm not a Karen but.... I want to speak to your manager is always to compliment people, I don't need to take my awful day/life on others!
I love| you too ❤️
I can actually say I had a pleasant conversation with a collection agency after my mother died. She passed away in the hospital from cancer. Afterwards I kept getting a bill addressed to her for $4000. I sent it back marked as deceased. It came again and I sent it back again. It came again and I called the hospital and told the accounts receivable department that she was dead and she was in their hospital when she passed. I gave them her insurance information (again) and thought that was it. Next month I get a collection notice. I called the collection agency and told the man she was dead and she died in their hospital. His reaction was "......You're kidding!..... Give me her insurance information and you won't be bothered again." He kept his word.