Asiatic Bow Designs - for Beginners
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2023
- Todays video is for beginners who want to get into asiatic archery and don’t know which kind of bow to get. I show a little overview of what is out there and explain my thoughts to it.
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I have to make a video like this for my Spanish-speaking friends. I still see a lot of misinformation about the different Asian styles and people don't look for information when it's free on the internet. Thanks Armin for sharing. 👊🏹😊
Si por favor
My first Asiatic bow was the Alibow Turkish Fiberglass. Its what I chose to learn thumb draw on. Before I got a Kheshig, I got the Kaiyuan fiberglass to teach myself with longer draw bows. I always felt like Fiberglass bows were perfect for learning on with how low in price they are and their durability.
Great video as always.
Could you recommend me a low budget bow to get started in target shooting archery? Been looking around but not knowing what the differences are, im kinda lost. Worth mentioning is that i want to get started with recurve as i felt like that requires the most skill.
Dude, you want to try a real Korean bow made out of horn and sinew. I bought mine with the classical stump arrows that are used in Korean long distance shooting. It's absolutely amazing to let them fly up, up and away. Pause. Then drop down on the bale target like rain. They're very hard to spot against the illuminated sky, you just kinda gotta breathe and flow with it. My bow is 45 pounds but doesn't pull or kick much in the hand. I used to shoot European style and my club companions all think I'm an idiot and laugh at my shooting style. They find it interesting to put the arrows in a target 20-90 metres away, while I shoot at 145 metres only. It's a bit like Kyudo but without the brutal formality of the Japanese. It's more zen, if you know what I mean - not so many rules to come between you and the bow. Nice to see all your bows lined up and shot.
Fantastic! And not only for beginners. Thank you for making this video, Armin! It helps everyone consider their next bow and is excellent for those wondering about their first. Best wishes and happy shooting. 🙇♂👍🏹
amazing video! much needed in the community and will be an amazing reference for those of us that try to teach others! cheers from Slovenia!
Tried them all, except for Qinhai. What a perfect review! Many thanx, Armin for your informative and impressive videos with demonstration of bows and their abilities. That's very helpful and good to know before choosing a bow to buy.
Super helpful! I'm beginning my journey into Asiatic Archery and this is super helpful! Thank you!
I was told by Daylite Archery that the minimum arrow mass for their 90# @31" Monarq was 55g, which works out to 850 grains.
Max draw weight for that bow at 34" is around 110#, so that's around 7.7gpp. Just a data point corroborating your information that Korean bows allow low arrow mass, also at higher draw weights.
Perfect video and timing perfect for me!
Unique video of its kind.
Very interesting to see how these different design bows bend.
i think i’m falling in love with your channel. you’re so wonderfully knowledgeable, you have a nice voice and a lovely cadence when you speak, the sounds of birds chirping and strings twanging almost makes this asmr-like, the multiple povs from the camera, and your detail oriented nature…. it’s all just too good!! thank you for making these videos!!! you’re too cool!!!!
Awesome video Armin! Great to see the differences between these types of bows! It will be a great series, I don't doubt. 👍
Excellent video. It perfectly summarizes the important things to take into account when entering the world of asiatic bows.
Amazing video, thanks for this !
Very comprehensive and useful video for beginners.
All you need to know
Very beautiful bows. I plan on buying one when I can finally return to bow practice. I appreciate your videos. Please, keep them coming. 🙂
Simply amazing video. So many choices for the newb now.
Very nice information. Thank you
Armin this is a great side-by-side progression in the design/functionality of bow design. Excellent information!
Should really help beginners, as well as more experienced shooters who may lack the bow structural design info , for selecting their next bow.
Thank you for this!
Thank you so much for making this. It was very informative for a fledgling archer like myself :)
love with you techniques, thank for sharing your knowledge
OMG, it's a video I needed! Everywhere in Internet you can find "Turkish", "Hungarian", "Mongol", etc., but there's no explanation or classification (found some clarification only in one of Osprey's book about archery). It would be useful for me, thanks!
Excellent video 🙏
Amazing video!
Une fois de plus super et très riche en enseignements. Mille mercis 😊
Awesome video, very good way to advertise asiatic archery 👍 Aaand glad to hear there will be some new videos about the basics for beginners. always a good idea to have some. For me it will be a good recap for sure 😄
The JoergSprave reference made me smile, long time since I heard it lol
My training bow is a 60lb beast qinghai. It's an incredibly accurate bow, I love it.
Vielen Dank für die klare Erklärung !
Very good vid. Thankyou sir!
Fantastic VIDEO!! BRAVO! GREAT COMPARISON VIDEO , GIVES GREAT COMPARISON ALL ON ONE VIDEO! GREAT IDEA!👏👍🏹
Well you may have just convinced me to to return to a bow this episode! Started with a mini hungarian bow in the 1970’s - put away the American cam bow… maybe maybe after 30 years
Thank you for the information. I have a Nokhor and like it a lot. Considering others.
My bow collection is not quite as diverse or eclectic but I'm sure if I keep watching your reviews, I'll get there😁👍🎯❤🇺🇸
Very nice
Great video ! Anyone getting into this side of archery should check this video out.
"Let me show you its features " :D I know where it came from :D Great video, thanks a lot!
Thanks!
Hi Armin, Your videos are fantastic. We, in Asiatic bow community are very fortunate to have someone like you to introduce us to practicalities of the sport. After watching your videos I bought and shot the long Qinghai. It has been great fun. I am looking now to get a a shorter bow, either Tatar or "Genghis Khan" or maybe even Turkish although I do not like the look of the handle. My question to you is which of these 3 bows do you think would be best for firing very heavy arrows (1000grain +). I am also looking for something with a different feel. Genghis Khan seems to fit all the criteria but I do not know how such long siyahs are good for firing heavy arrows.
“The first time I’ve shot this bow” he says as he puts down a tight grouping without even trying. 👍
I have the laminated version of the qinghai bow i draw maximum of 30 inches(cant seem to managed more since im a short person) and it still performs Amazingly, i cannot recommend it enough :D
Big fan of the fiberglass tatar here, I need to replace mine. Also, I need to build up my callus agains. It's been months since I last did some archery.
thank you
I am proficient with an English longbow. I'm looking foward to try a recurved! I'll try the thumbdraw with my 22lb longbow.
An advantage with long draw is being able to have a sight picture on the right side of the bow looking along the arrow whereas with the short draw it can be easier to sight picture more to the left side which is ok for shorter distance shooting but for longer distance shooting is more difficult to get tight bunches with..Any thoughts or comments on this observation are welcome as it my own personal experience .Great video as always Armin ..
not sure regarding how I shoot, but I heard that it helps
If people are taller today than 1000 years ago. Bows with short draw length would match archers with short arms. The question should be are we historically accurate or historically proportional? Because some great bows would be unsuitable for some archers
Great question!
I personally don't believe archers from antiquity had the extreme draw lengths that some of these modern asiatic bows allow.
some thing they all maxed out at about 32" but I am not sure about that
So what maker is the tatar bow from??? What are some good resin bows under like 150e. I need it for weeks of rain and cloudy weather. I take care of my laminated bows a lot so yea. I need the one for wet conditions practice
I’m just here to watch Armin shoot 😅😊
Great video as always, 30# for a manchu is not to bad, you think ? Thx
Armin do you know anything about Lukbis bows? They have a nice looking tatar, I'm trying to find reviews on them but there is nothing
nope
I would live to buy the Tatar bow you demonstrated.
Where can I purchase?
Love your videos and appreciate you.
Apollo
alibowshop.com
@ArminHirmer
Can you tell me how many LBS is the 25# long Qinghai at full draw?
Dear Armin. Greetings from Indonesia. Thanks for the video, love your work. How do you know the GPP of your arrows?
I check the weight of the assembled arrow
Fascinating about shooting stances, bow designs, torque no torque, khatra no khatra, arrow weight, arrow stiffness, arrow length, draw length.
Armin... Why is it that the Korean Style bow. I think you said you could go all the way down to a 5 or 6 grain per pound. When it was also 30 pound bow. Roughly???
Why is it ok for that black korean one but not the 30 pound bow you show right before it.
Is their a reason?
Thanks
Your videos are amazing! At 22:20, it seems the tip of the arrow is resting on your left index finger. Is that on purpose? And another question: Why no Japanese bows, such as the kyudo yumi, here? Thanks!
as said far from being comprehensive. Yumi is quite special and hard to compare with other bows.
@@ArminHirmer That is exactly why I think it would be interesting for new and others to hear about it, to understand what makes it so special and what makes it hard to compare with other bows. :) Is it better, is it worse? What are the strengths and weaknesses of the yumi compared to other bows?
@@stefanhansen5882 Dumbo, don't you get it ?!? he is being polite; read between the line Japanese Yumi bow has no use but ceremonial purpose, it has no mobility nor portability. If you truly want an honest review, send one to Armin for an honest review. In my opinion, Yumi bow is too big, too cumbersome to carry and yet has surprising shorter range as compared to any other bow mentioned here. Yumi bow has simply no value as hunting bow nor as an combat bow. 馬かおまえ本当に日本の弓が世界の戦争史の中で大活躍した弓と比較できると思いなの？ 戦争で実質的に使用できると思いんだ？ そんなに自信があれば比較する動画撮って送ってみて
Hey Armin. Thank you for all your great videos. I am about to order my second bow soon, now i am wondering which is the one presented from minute 19 onwards? If anyone knows i am grateful for the help. (it doesn't seem to be the Alibow Mongol "Genghis Khan"?). Is there any link or website I can order to Germany and support you with that order?
you ca order directly and use the voucher code Armin10, gives you 10% off and yes I believe its the Genghis
Vielen Dank 🙏@@ArminHirmer
It would be very helpfull if you may write the name of each bow and the supplier, for my english is far to be perfect. Thank you!
I have a beginner question, I ordered a tartar bow that is #25 what weight arrow should I get? Is 500 to heavy for target practice, eventually I plan to start horseback archery as I am an equestrian. Thank you
25#@28”? And what’s your draw length? I think 500 might be a bit stiff and heavy
250
@@davidlargen6945 250gr?
Armin it is 26"
What is the Turkish bow you were shooting with in the video?
Alibow
Would love links to these bows if they are easily available.
all available at alibowshop.com (first order use voucher code armin10)
@@ArminHirmerYou da man!
Shooting Asiatic right-handed with thumb draw. My arrows keep flying off to the right.
A less stiff spine has reduced this but it’s still a bit of an issue - not sure if it’s my technique or what.
Has anyone experienced this issue?
its normal and you need to adapt and not aim over the arrow
@@ArminHirmerthank you!
So it’s a matter of aim rather than technique?
Interessante Vorstellung der verschiedenen Bögen. Danke dafür.
Schade,das es die Ali Bows nicht in Deutschland bekommt.
70 $ für einen türkischen Bogen ist ja OK. Dann kommen aber noch 50$ Versand drauf.
Wenn man Pech hat auch noch Zoll dazu.
Was the Manchu bow designed to be used on horseback or on foot?
I guess mostly foot, but it can be used on horseback. yet I am not a historian
@@ArminHirmer thank you for your reply!
Manchu, where do you get one?
Alibowshop.com (and you can use vouchercode Armin10 and get 10% off)
Dear Armin, thanks for the great video. It might motivate me to buy a bow again after my first one (a used Grozer base carbon fibre) broke. I can only shoot in my living room though :D Anyways, the following question just came up: Do you know of any center-cut "normal" recurves that are cut from the other side, so as to shoot thumb draw with it? I know you can get a bow for left-handers (ironically, a left-handed bow is shot with the right and vice versa, lol) but wouldnt the grip then be in the wrong shape? Looking forward to your response, have a great day!
nothing in my mind right now, but I will keep my eyes open
@@ArminHirmer thanks! will continue to shoot traditional bows without center-cut of course, but i'd like to try it some day :)
25lbs drawl interesting
What about indian bow
I hope you find this as amusing as I doc: for a good 20-30% of general youtube video ads I get bows, bowhubting/fishing, "outdoorsy" type shops, etc. But on YOUR videos? Never. In a weird way; I get the opposite? Like, stump removal, concrete filling services, etc. I guess they're hoping i'll be inspired by your vids to then want to cut down and pave over the beautiful forests around my home??? 😅⁉️ SOMEHOW?!?! but when I listen to any music¹ or gaming content² or historical documentaries³; then the following are seemingly inevitable; 1: from mozart to metal, almost the EXACT OPPOSITE HAPPENS: i get gardening tools, potted plants, sod rolls, etc. it's... odd? 2: In gaming content, about 80% is fastfood, 10-20% is hair care, and occassionally a bow, or piano lessons; 3: history videos get ads for really tough belts, cars (modern, not historical), mobile apps, and terribly ugly dresses from "fast fashion" places (i'm a man...?)
So, no I don't have a "point" per se: I just thought you'd find this quite silly and amusing, as I do.
TH-cam is silly and amusing in general :D
@@ArminHirmer it certainly is!
And I have a question for you, and no better idea of where to put it, so, here:
I go in for arm surgery next week. After a month or two of healing, they want me to "ease into" the hobbies I used to do. Well the injury that is now being finally fixed has prevented me from shooting for over a year, so i've lost a lot of muscle mass. And they want me to specifically do the *movements* of my hobbies to make sure the tendons and nerves are healing properly. Which has left me with a bit of a puzzle. ...should I try to ask a bowyer to make a, like, 10# bow? I cant even string any of my current bows much less use them. "Get a friend to string it for you" true, but I see them so rarely these days, that doesn't really work either. Got me wondering about plastic children's bows (like the sort that shoot suction cups, not arrows) and... maybe? I had hoped you'd have some ideas and/or insight. Maybe you or an archer friend has had to do something similar, and can share insight.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer; and thanks as always for being a wonderful creator on here! 🤗
@@kungfuskull Simsek as example has some 15# Turkish bow, which still works quite nice. But a kids bow will do too I guess. maybe even a Thera band for the motion. get better soon
@@ArminHirmer thank you kindly. I'll look into your advice! And i'll be enjoying your vids as i heal! Thanks again! 🤗
Games have huge misinformation about Asiatic bows being inferior to European long bow, which wasn't the case at all, recurve bows are faster,more powerful,long range.
Great video indeed, unfortunately i had no luck with alibow. Poor quality and also a wrong bow delivered, so i cannot recommend them.
That's made from indonesian bowyer
not sure about that :)
Asiatic bows? You mean Turkish bows...
asiatic... a lot is coming from Turkey but not all :)
We get it, you are sponsored by Ali bow. Stop pushing crap fiberglass bows on beginners. Bows from freddie archery are far superior and in the same price range. It would be nice if we would see sometime an unbiased review instead of pushing crap Chinese bows that will crack, the finish on them is awful, they are mass produced. You can also buy bows for under 200 dollars from local bow makers wich are faaar superior in finish and performance than the crap you get from china.
What design does Freddie Archery horse bows do? Which category does it fall into?