Ownership Update PLUS I needed a minor rant !
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มี.ค. 2021
- I can't believe it has been just over a year since my Mini JCW Clubman entered my life. It's time for her first service so let me update you on how the year has been and at the same time I needed to get something off my chest !
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I love the way that it has been for a service but that TWIG was still there!!
Good evening to all from the UK! And morning for us in North America!
Hi Merica 🙋♂️
Totally understand the JCW argument, I’ve got a Cooper S and although it’s running a lot more power than a FJCW thanks to Lohen, it still isn’t one. I refuse to put anything JCW on my mini (styling wise).
Good man 👍
When my wife had a Cooper S back in 09 we looked at the JCW styling pack for it as it does look good. On researching the insurance side it was going to cost around 200 quid more for having it on!!....didnt bother.
@@davidoliver7977 madness isn’t it, especially because they came as a factory option for the aero kit. I’ve just left mine looking standard and messed with engine. Full mods declared though.
@@tompritchard2135 From factory was the way to go and it was a close decision, but her indoors was content in the end with the upgraded exhaust tips in silver, which made a difference to the look. It was the auto too which she wanted and to be fair was not a bad drive and if I remember had a kind of overboost for a second or 3 under hard acceleration...happy days loved it. On my 50th she kindly used the part ex of it to buy me a 997 Carrera S which was a lovely surprise as she loved that mini. As I always say she's worth avin lol.
@@davidoliver7977 certainly was the way to go. Honestly you can do so much with these minis, I’ve got a different exhaust system on mine now and it’s a much better tone than standard, but not massively loud. 0-60 I’ve timed at 5.3 with the modifications that I’ve done to the mini. That’s a nice surprise isn’t it! How did the Porsche feel compared? I know a few people who have had a Porsche and they love it, but they said the mini was a bit more fun!
I completely agree about the JCW badge thing, grates me every time I see a faux JCW
I stopped having my car cleaned when being serviced when a few years back I got my car back with a badly scratched windscreen. Still pisses me off just thinking about it.
Ouch 😣
Had the same experience years ago with a Merc, and since then (although they repaired it) never had a car cleaned on a service. Its usually a quick power wash anyway and that is where the issue came as they took a chunk out of the bonnet. and it also looked as though they had dropped the shammy and the grit was evident in the scratches all over. I guess they have to be so quick washing them so no respect given to the product.
@Derek Watson I’ve been telling them to not wash it but last time it went into my local Audi garage, you can guess the rest 😢
Same for me. After having the body work polished properly I now leave "do not clean" notices on the dash and ask reception not to clean it
Could've taken the twig off before filming! 😂
LOL. Didn’t spot it until I checked the footage 😂
Probably picked it up during all the rallying.
Was about to type the very same!
I don't like arboretums in my scuttle panel.
Edit: can't believe it's still there AFTER the service! That's really poor! Forgot how unimpressed I was with MINI service when I had mine! 🤣
Lol. Yes that was distressing me as well. Lol.
@@PetrolPed I once did a photo shoot of a bicycle and there were complaints about a cigarette end on the ground! Had to get my own back! Keep up the good work ;-)
Totally agree with you on the JCW, it should ONLY be on a JCW car, bc that’s what you pay the premium on it for - just cheapens their top brand of Mini!
Spot on with your comments on JCW badging! Could not agree more that it is both confusing and ‘cheapens’ the meaning of JCW. As a fellow owner of 2 JCWs, I think it is a problem.
Totally agree with you on the JCW styling pack.
Being a Mini owner for many years I totally agree with your minor rant, but I guess they sell a whole lot more cars when visually branded JCW. The new 2021 F56 styling pack even has the JCW badge on the front grill - That's a step too far!
I took a service plan out with Lexus when I had my 2008 Lexus ISF. It was the roughly the same price as yours monthly for 3 services including a major and all MOT’s free, not bad for a 5.0 V8. Made really good sense, I always remember getting a free IS300h F sport courtesy car and feeling very short changed with the power like you lol
I always loved getting my car back, made me appreciate it even more.
Congrats On 100k Mate. That’s Something To Be Proud Of👍
Thank you. I sure am 👍
I love my digital dash with my heads up display on my JCW clubman. I thought I would hate it, however, really do like it a lot!
Totally agree never understood why they put the JCW styling pack on non JCW cars, though we have a Countryman S and yes it has the JCW styling pack. We did not spec and bought it because it had the pack because it looks great. The seats with the carbon effect backs are truly awesome.
Have not seen mud flaps on a motor since 1977!! 😄😄 Many Thanks, Peace From London. 🙏🙏
Quite agree with service plan idea, I done the same thing on my car it's now covered servicing and parts plus two MOTs when It reaches 3 years old all in the monthly fee !😊😊👍
Well done Francois, all good mate and there.
I completely agree with you about the JCW rant. I love the heads up and don't want a car without it now. We are going to sign up for the service package too.
I agree. JCW is and has always been a tuning/performance option. From the 60s till now, a paint job doesn't count as JCW in my mind. Anyway congrats on 1yr for Charlie. My Cooper SE (electric in the UK) has just hit the 6 month milestone. Nothing has gone wrong, and I still love it. To be honest I don't use the pill style display much, as the head up display has everything I need. I suppose I use it to check out the instantaneous power consumption, but that is about all. Till next time....
Have to agree with you on the JCW styling pack, grinds my gears !
Glad I’m not the only one 😂
Thanks for these videos! Here in the states there is very little attention given to these MINIs. I have a JCW Clubby on order at my local dealer and the only thing I can do is wait and watch every video on TH-cam about them. You seem to have the market cornered on JCW Clubman content (that isnt rubbish). Well played, Petrol Ped!
You are spot on with the "dilution" of the JCW brank name...a stunt adopted throughout the BMW range which is ONE of the reasons I changed from my M2C to my FANTASTIC M20 iPace HSE. (Which I love). But BMW sat nav is much better thatn the JLR one, BTW.
I agree with you on the JCW touches, it’s like putting a Cosworth badge on a Sierra Ghia
Yep 👍
I just installed the same red paddle shifters! They look and feel amazing lol
Hi Pete, had my JCW Clubman 7 weeks now and am still in awe of it. Totally agree with your JCW rant, a friend of ours has a Cooper convertible with the JCW pack and is adamant she has a full JCW. Deluded 🤦♂️
That’s would wind me up 😂
your so true about the jcw name , great to see your video love watching
Cheers 👍
Totally agree with you over the JCW body kits and the new instrument cluster.
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Always a nervous time if you've got to send a new vehicle in his three-year period into a service garage but oil and filter changes must be done but lucky for me my baby goes into my son's garage and the Warranty work can be carried out under the service contract yes another very informative video and some very good points made thank bod as always a pleasure🤓
Good to see you driving around the village where I live ( Lavant) and the surrounding area. Especially the drives up the Chiglrove road towards the Hartings. Thoroughly enjoy the reports having just found your site.
We are neighbours 😜👍
My wife and I picked up out new clubman s sport on Saturday, lovely motor
Congrats 👍
Oh my goodness, I don’t think I’ve ever watched a video I agreed more with. You’re correct on every point! Well done sir.
Good to know I’m not talking a load of rubbish 😂
Firstly, Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers Ped! Very well deserved. I have been watching since your video on the F56 JCW at Snows Portsmouth, and in that time you have quickly become my most watched car TH-camr. I totally agree on the point about the JCW badging. I have an R56 Cooper S with the JCW Chilli pack and the only JCW badges I have are on the door sills. Even the centre caps just say MINI. I do think they went a little overboard with the badging on the F56 JCW packs, especially on LCI 2, which appears to have a massive JCW badge on the grill even on the One/Cooper. I am surprised that they told you they couldn’t wash Charlie because of Covid. My main dealer were more than happy to offer the service when I took mine in for its MOT last week!
Hi Alex. Thanks mate. This dealer subs out the cleaning to a company that is not currently operating 👍
Ah okay, that makes sense then!
I have a service plan on my Audi and of course it ensures that you keep going to the main dealer until you have spent all the money
100% agree with the jcw badge thing .
Just orderd a clubman jcw , love the channel.
Many thanks. Enjoy your new wheels 👌👍
Nice one. have been looking at clubman's recently so thanks for the insight although I still love my London edition :)
You had a lucky escape! I never let the dealer wash my car as they probably use an automatic car wash and a sponge! Protect your car paintwork and wash it at home yourself using the two bucket method!
The one thing that tempts me to the digital dash is that the Tach is much easier to read for manual shifting. I find the old Tach a real pain, especially with such a low redline.
Has nobody else noticed that the gap between second and third gears is far too wide? You would think, with 8 gears, they could make the spacing more convenient for lower speed winding roads.
Completely agree on the point about the JCW styling and how MINI use it. It’s similar to how I disagree with BMW putting an exhaust pipe either side of the car on the new BMW...320d - it looks great don’t get me wrong, but such styling should be reserved for the higher spec cars in the 3 Series range in my humble opinion (I say this as a former 320d owner, current JCW Hatch owner!)
Totally agree with the JCW, it should only say JCW unless it actually is. I didn't realise it annoyed me until you brought it up and I realised it has been winding me up 😅
LOL 😂
TangoS was in for 1st service last week and needed a wash and valet too but no haha .....gutted as well She had no issues either just brakes as Charlie and tyres getting there You gotta love a Mini 😍👍
That service plan seems to make sense and definitely offsets costs a bit 🍻👍🏻🇨🇦
I will have a Mini Countryman Cooper S All4 next week I can’t wait to get my first modern mini
Awesome 👏
Love the flaps lol I pick my JCW clubman this Wednesday.
In rural areas I am a big fan of the flaps. They really do keep the muck off of your car and in your case they are stylish as well!
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Great content Pete
Love ya little mini 👍👍👍👍
I enjoyed watching the Video. The best Car you have owned
Interesting rant. It’s actually called a Cooper Sport that included a styling pack like different style bumpers etc. The JCW idea started way back in the 90’s with engine tweaks and styling packs etc. The Fiesta ST Line looks exactly like the ST at a distance but without the power
Agree about not letting a dealer clean the MINI. We were put off when we saw them jet washing the cloths on a gravel ridden surface 😩
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@@PetrolPed we presume you put the Clubbie in Sport mode? It’s not dramatic but it does make a difference
Totally agree with you , bit of a badging exercise which devalues the ethos of the proper jcw .Bit like the mini hatch challenge 210 and a proper Jcw .
Excellent as always 👍
Thanks 👍
Evening pal, what a year it’s been too. 👍👍👍👍👍
Oh yeah 😜
Looking forward to your Countryman review.
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I really like the flaps like you. Keep up the good work Peter. 👍
Thanks Andrew 👍
We took my wife's Ford Ka+ Active (not active at all) in for it's service today. and had an 70 plate EcoSport ST-Line (not ST like at all) as a loaner. It was supposed to have the 1.0l Ecoboost 140bhp engine, felt more like 40bhp.......why put "ST" on a car like that? The ride and handling of the thing were......I actually have no words! We were even glad to get back in the Wife's 'not Active' with all of its 85bhp for the drive home. I think I might just pop out for a four pack in my RSQ3 just to restore my faith in the motor vehicle, then sit and watch the footy!🍺
LOL 😂
Completely agree. The sports trims of others isn’t so bad. Although Ford do ST like as well which is almost as daft.
But a JCW style pack would look stupid when a Cooper S flies past!
Yay mini content...it's a thumbs up from me!! 👍
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Glad you've enjoyed the 1st year of ownership in this... I still have a keen eye for one of these, but still very happy with my JCW. WHen I bought my 2015 F56, I got the service package. It's nice to see that they have added a few other parts to it. They will usually give you 5 services over 5yrs or 50K, something like that, with the Service Pack, the other equasion you need to think about is will the miles you do in the Clubman let you take advantage of all the services. The car varies the miles between services also depending on how you drive. I missed out on my last one because of this. From what you have said, you should even out after the 3rd service?
Hi Pete concerning the JCW argument, I understand where you're coming from I bought a Cooper S just before first lockdown it was my first Mini so not a connoisseur, I loved the styling kit not knowing it was JCW until I sat in it and saw the badge on the steering wheel. I was disappointed at first because I didn't want it to look like it's trying to be something it's not in the same way as teenagers used to make standard escorts look like an XR3i. When I realised it was more about styling options I accepted it, I love the JCW spoiler and that's the only extra on the exterior the interior is standard Cooper S but it has the JCW steering wheel which looks great but I would prefer if it didn't have JCW badge on it, at least there's no badging on the exterior. I did find your comments interesting especially knowing that you have put rally mud flaps on a car that as far as I am aware they do not rally😉
Hope everyone of your viewers is keeping well. I must admit that I don’t bother with main dealer servicing now that my warranty has come to an end. Save a fortune on servicing costs. Hope you and Mrs Petrol Ped are keeping safe & well. How is one of the Pups now? I know you said that one was having issues and went for a scan. Hope all is well.
Really looking forward to the JCW Countryman review and your choice, Countryman or Clubman
that will be an interesting view, spot lamps, 2 Big Cibies please to go with those mega flaps🏁🏁
Now you’re talking 👌
Hi Ped
Always interesting to have an insight into ownership and in particular servicing experience. With regard to your comments regarding JCW, triumph of marketing over common sense. With you on that one.
Indeed 👍
Hahahaha. Lovely summary. Especially the part around the JCW trim bit. I also happen to get a JCW trimmed loaner and oh boy the performance deficit is night and day. The sport mode on the ‘wannabe’ (if I may 😬) is not there compared to the mid on my JCW.
Also I’m with you on the analog dials. Just changed my profile picture watching your video PP.
lovely videos. Keep them coming 👍👍
Oh yeah. Just spotted that 👊
Take care thanks 🙏
You too!
As the ecstatic owner of a 2020 Countryman JCW, I am with you 100% on the JCW branding in non-JCW cars. I'm also with you on the digital instrument panel. I ordered my car just before BMW MINI shut down production for COVID, in fact, my car had just started metal fabrication when lockdown brought everything to a halt. I had the option of canceling my order and switching to a 2021 with the digital panel. I chose not to do so, and I'm glad after seeing a few. I like the JCW analog dials too much.
Good plan 👍
Looking forward to the jcw countryman vid. We currently have a r60 cooper sd all4 park lane and love it. But so want a jcw next.
Interesting Ped. My JCW Clubbie also had its first service last month as well.
I got the car from Chandlers Worthing (Rustington), sold to me by the lovely Emma who sold me my first Mini, 4 Minis and 8 years ago in 2012.
Had mine serviced there as well. Still loving mine to bits🤗👍
Isn't Rustington technically a suburb of LA?
@@stevemccrory9130 How dare you! We don’t need any of that sort of talk.....
They are a good bunch 👍
@@montyzumazoom1337 Well there is the fact that its further to Worthing than it is to "downtown" LA. One bonus is that Ped isn't referring to "his town" as CHI (which is as bad as badging a Cooper as a JCW)......its CHUFFING CHICHESTER people.
@@stevemccrory9130 Calm down old chap, or to put it another way C.D.O.C.....😅
I can see where you’re coming from with the JCW observations, seems fair enough to me. Our Abarth 124 is getting its second service at the end of the month..... it’s not even done 2k miles sine it’s first!! Blooming lockdown is to blame.. But on a positive note, should get a nice discount for being in the Abarth South East club..
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...Your enthusiasm has been noted! After 3 months of gut-wrenching research to replace our Subaru Crosstreck Hybrid and perfect Honda S2000, the Clubman JCW has risen to the top of the automotive heap so to say. A husband and wife have their needs and that’s why compromise was invented. A big Saturday in the US of A for us; ordering a ‘22 Clubman JCW then rushing off for a COVID vaccine; what a day. Promises were made and fortunes may be lost but in the end, we hope to have made the best decision to travel once again! God speed, Petrol Ped, your subscribers and all forms of car enthusiasts. It’s been emotional! 😎
With you on the labelling issue. Same with the R Line of my Tiguan, which has very little Rrrrr. Thankfully service costs are free as part of VW finance. Shudder to think how much it would have been!
Great to see more Charlie Clubman action on the channel Pete. I’ve been thinking about a service plan, so I might well look into that following your insight. I tend to agree about the JCW branding - something I don’t have a dilemma about with my 3 pot Cooper Exclusive. Interestingly, sports mode makes a big difference on the 3 pot - not night and day, but throttle response is much better. Good to hear differing views on things, I personally love the digital dash and when I bought mine it was a chore to source one, it was that new on the LCI. Shame about the twig on the scuttle - even the dealer didn’t kindly remove it for you. 😉 All the best as always.
LOL...only spotted the twig when watching the footage back 😂
Totally agree about the rant! Mini are certainly devaluing JCW by spraying on lesser cars.
Totally agree with your JCW rant. 👍🏻
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I feel much the same about the whole JCW badging without the JCW reality. Anyone can slap whatever they want on their car, but it doesn't make it the thing they wish. It really does cheapen what they are doing by having a flagship car, by then one that just looks like it. I agree, they should just call it "The Works" package or something else.
I have a 2019 Countryman JCW (so look forward to your future review) and have to say i agree with your comments on the JCW styling pack. Not really an issue for me living in Australia as they don't offer the JCW styling pack option (nor the Mini ONE either).
Didn’t know that 😬
I totally agree with you about the JCW styling pack. I have a 2016 Cooper S bought second hand with the JCW pack and people say oh it’s a JCW then I have to say no it is isn’t actually. It’s confusing. I also prefer the analog gauges over digital. The only thing I would like to add are Union Jack taillights but they are so expensive to get from Australia.
There's heaps of aftermarket ones you can buy with lots of install vids on youtube if that helps
Dutton amphibious cars in Littlehampton. Now that would be a different road (or river) test for you. 😁 Good to see my neck of the woods and Chandlers' service bay.
That would indeed be funny 😂
Evening all and Francois ;-) I have ordered mud flaps now in red! Cannot think why, saw them somewhere ;-)
Say hello to Ben and as well. 😁
See another one going with the trend,good man 😁👍
Boom...I am an influencer don’t you know 😂
@@francoisg3500 Next time :-)
I've just bought one after watching your vids about how good they are!!
Cracking car, I picked it up on Tuesday and the wife didn't notice for 3 days 🤣
LOL…that’s made me laugh 😂
Great cars though 👍
She only noticed because my last mini hatch was blue and this one is white !!
She didn't notice the difference in shape and the fact it has 2 more doors 😅
Hi,
Having had 5 MINIs including two JCWs (F56 and F54) I totally agree with your sentiments around devaluing the JCW brand.
The other issue which I have to bite my tongue around when on the MINI forums is people who buy their MINI then attempt to make huge modifications to make them a Cooper S or JCW.
Just take you time and buy the MINI with the options already on instead of I wish it had this or that option.
Basically, buy the right MINI (or any car) in the first instance, there is enough choice out there and by following this route the end cost is usually cheaper.
Just my two penny worth, thank you for the video update, appreciated
Great video, wow that’s one expensive oil change!!.
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I’m so excited to see a review on a countrymen as my wife and I agree if we ever get a mini the country men would be the one for us. If we get one we would have to join flap gate lol.
I’m excited to drive one 👍
I have been lucky to own a number of MINIs.
I absolutely love my MINI Countryman Cooper S, coming from two Clubmans (Cooper S and JCW) they are different.
I would have stayed with the Clubman but I found the barn doors a pain in the arse, a hatch would be better for this model.
Try both models out for size before committing.
Agree with the JCW logos etc being on non-JCW cars. AMG has been similar for a while
Great video. Looking forward to the Countryman JCW review. Perhaps afterwards, an amphibious car?
Don’t joke 😜😂
I agree, I have a JCW hatch, I love the performance and the fact it is an actual JCW, it should be called a works line, similar to ST line for Ford
Indeed 👍
flaps ,,,no ,everything else yes loved watching the work you have done
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Hey Ped, when I bought my f56 Cooper S I chose the classic trim, which doesn't have paddles, the sports trim has the paddles, JCW steering wheel, hub caps etc... then there was the top spec which I think was 'exclusive' or similar. I didn't want a faux JCW either and wasn't bothered about paddles. I'm someone who prefers a stealth car than a bog standard one made to look like it's more than it is.
Nice 👌
I also hadn't really thought about the JCW brand being diluted until you 'got in a flap', and I can see some buyers not knowing our caring about the difference, but as a previous JCW owner I care. Your 'Works' suggestion was great and should get board approval right away...once they've sold the few million JCW parts 😉
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It's really interesting you bring this JCW issue up! On the new LCI MINI Hatches, you get a full-on PROPER JCW badge on the front grille even if it is just Sport trim (doesn't have to be Cooper S either). I agree that it devalues the JCW engined models, but then again, I like the JCW styling being available across the range. Perhaps a different JCW-lite sub-brand should be used.
Similar styling but a slightly different name work be my preference 👍
Totally agree with the JCW 'rant' Pete. Well said.
Great 👍
I have a 2018 F54 Clubman SD which I bought as an approved Mini .
Very fortunately I lucked out and got one with the 3 year/36000 mile service pack which the original owner had taken out which transferred to me.
I have taken the mileage from 8500 to 34500 miles in 17 months of ownership so the service pack has proven very worthwhile.
Nice. I had the same with my Roadster 👍
@@PetrolPed like you I also had a couple of warranty claims. 1 to resolve a water leak into the footwells and another which required a new dpf sensor. Both resolved with no quibble by Mini.
Nailed it on the JCW pack stuff. Really annoyed me when they brought it out after I bought my JCW. Bits also like the red roof and mirrors were supposedly only for JCWs but then they started letting you option them on anything. It all takes away from the genuine JCWs. Hopefully they don't do the same with GP parts (apart from the diff!).
Good vid again.On the JCW question,it's almost like they are slightly devaluing the brand,so have to agree with you.Service plans make a lot of sense,did it myself when I bought my last car.
Cheers Alasdair 👍
Sometimes it’s great to get to seat in another model of the same make to reaffirm how a good choice you made with your pride & Joy..am like you..I like some of the advances in the motor industry but still want to relate to old organic stuff in my car well..an analog instrument binnacle being one of them!!!!😅
Charlie sounds great but still quiet inside when not poking your toe down. Nice! Mini still high on my next daily list. But having driven less than 200 miles in the last 12m my next ‘daily’ could be a ‘yearly’. 😄
Totally agree.
Hi Ped. Agreed about the JCW usage, should only be for an actual JCW.
Weirdly, Mini my car was in the main dealers last week for an MOT and they did wash it. I asked them about the rally spots too, but once I learnt they wanted £700 fitted i decided against it!!. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask :-)
Great vid, once again. I'm a bit late catching up this week. Just picked up my new Countryman JCW a couple of weeks ago & enjoying it as best I can given current Covid situation. Looking forward to some trips up into our nearby Highlands, once we get the all-clear. Someone really needs to sort the potholes & state of the roads though first. Diabolical state up here & I guess elsewhere also? Missus got a blow out in her Up GTi on the way down to pick up my JCW!
I got service plan from new & only £650 btw up here. Paid monthly @ 0% over 3 years, so less than £18 a month. Not bad for main dealer prices. Interested in your comment re driving lamps. I too was eager to have them put on my new vehicle, but was told that they couldn't be fitted, by BMW/ Mini, due to new pedestrian related regulations :-( I guess I'll have to source them outwith the dealer & hope it doesn't affect warranty? Maybe you could look into, with your contacts? :-)
Sounds about right 😢
Completely agree with you about the JCW styling pack. I bought a JCW clubman and paid a lot of money for the privilege.
Exactly 👍
From the very short passing shot I think that amphibious car you spotted on your way home was a Dutton Amphibious which were, (maybe still are ?)made in Littlehampton, Tim Dutton the company owner lives in Worthing. Been making loads of different kit cars for decades.
Thanks for the info 👍
I 100% agree with you on the JCW bit of your film. We pay a premium for our JCW's and that shouldn't be devalued. By all means put the styling on other cars but not the badges.
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I agree about the half digital dials, they don't really add anything and look a little out of place. I've got the HUD on my JCW Clubman so rarely pay attention to the dials.