I'll probably get crucified for this, but Win2000sp4 was my favorite OS. Like you, I could never leave my machine alone and the OS never gave me any issues, and IIRC not a crash. Good luck with that beast!
I never got to try Windows 2000, but I have an old laptop that has Windows 2000 drivers on the Dell website for that specific laptop so I'll probably install it soon to see how it is, just for fun.
@@arandominternetuser9099 kick the tires on it, it's kinda like XP and 98 had a very stable baby, lol. I ran graphics programs on it and I couldn't have been happier.
Mine as well, even it is still quite tricky and Server 2003 was quite error free. I think the "problem" with Win XP was the P4 mess I didn't really realized because that time I worked with laptops on servers and privately I used Dell Dual Xeon Workstations, even I wondered about the heat they produced.
Those brackets at the start are for mounting the floppy drive. When this case was originally released it didn't include those and you were expected to mount the floppy drive in one of the HDD cages. However people complained because it reduced the total number of HDDs you could install. CM therefore started including those brackets with the case. No, you can't mount HDDs on them. Floppy drives and hard drives have screw holes in different locations. [ETA: P/N RC-880-FKR1]
I have the same case (not using it atm) it's full of 300gb scsi drives and no motherboard in it atm. Mine also has three hard drive cages in it. A big a$$ case with alot of room. I had many different builds in it during al these years. I have a dual 370 rock solid Tyan motherboard in another case with dual 1,4ghz cpu's with sb live and the sb live front panel. Another one with a Gigabyte dual 370 board and dual 1,26ghz cpu's. Both has 2gb of ram. To use 4gb of ram on a 32-bit system you most have PAE enabled in the OS to enable 36-bit memory addressing, otherwise only 3,25 gb will be used because of the 32bit memory addressing limit. My main pc uses a big e-atx black LIan Li PC-A77 case. Beautiful case. Another system I have with dual 771 cpu's in the rare Lian Li PC-777 snail case. I will never sell it, I bought it of ebay never used for 100 dollars included shipping. Great video,
For hdd I really love having a swappable drive bay. Ssd's are so cheap now. I got an ssd for 98, one for xp and one for mint. Really great way to add more usefulness to a retro build. I know I could use grub to multiboot but sometimes that can be annoying to setup.
Thanks for making this video. As a former computer technician and now more of a hobbyist, I've always loved server hardware. There's just something interesting about it compared to regular desktop hardware. I still have an old Dell PowerEdge 2650 in my closet. Couldn't even tell you the specs, I just know it uses DDR RAM and has a couple of small SCSI drives in it.
I also converted an old discarded Socket 604 server board to a retro platform... With two Netburst Xeon 3.60 GHz processors and 16 GB DDR 266 RAM distributed over 8 slots. Thanks to a PCI to PCIe adapter, I was able to add a Radeon R7 250 with 2 GB to the PC. Yes, it doesn't fit in with the times, but the device only has PCI slots and this is a very efficient graphics card with low power requirements that even runs under XP. At least it had around 14000 points in 3DMark 2001 Se at 1280 x 1024 and 32 bit. I wanted to build a dual socket 370 like that, but you can hardly get the necessary hardware anymore. And if you're still looking for a 1400 Tualatin, you're more likely to win the lottery before you find this CPU anywhere. Everything is difficult and expensive. But I still have a Dual Slot 1 machine here with 2x 700 MHz and Fx 5900. It's also iconic.
@@moardargons8160 Very nice x8 isn't bad for such an old device. Technically my board has PCIE, but unfortunately no slots were provided by the manufacturer. It's a shame but you can't have everything.
@@moardargons8160 Wonderful devices, the ProLiant servers... I already had some of them, but I had to give them back due to lack of space. Among other things, the DL380 G1... with four processors. And then some more. I use a self-built system with a Tiger i7320 (S5350) motherboard in the big tower.
Yes, always getting down to the little nitty-gritties like expansion cards won't fit in properly, suitable screws, connection cables, missing BIOS settings, and on and on. Well, I do have two servers of that PIII Tualatin kind (Supermicro 1 HE and a highly rare GA-6VTXD; but as well RAMBUS Dual Xeon 1.7/ 2 GHz, Dual PIII 1 GHz Slot 1, 133 MHz ECC but also Dual PIII 100 MHz ASUS P2B-F in a No Name server case on rolls with 6 SCSI Front Loader Bays.😉
Yeah, that X-Fi really reaches the limit when it comes to an OS older than XP/2K3. Windows 2K is the absolute limit when using adapted Dell drivers. :P
great to see it coming on great, yeah sometimes you have to install a service pack for the later hardware, NT 4 is like that, most of the hardware it needs service pack 3 minim for hardware to work. the two larger slots i think are 64bit, which i think are more geared for raid and maybe networking. Any standard card that goes in, the slot will behave like a standard slot.
I commented about this case in the last video as I've used it continuasly since 2001 starting with an AMD Duron build and ending with my x5650 build I currently have in it. I think I've had 15is builds in it and I've retrofitted the front of the case with 3 120mm fans and reworked the front panel to use usb 3. I think it will be my case forever tbh.
It is a nice case and I was going to use it for my modern PC. I even bought a new front panel for it with new power and reset buttons plus USB 3.0 and c ports but decided to do this retro build instead. Thanks for watching!
@@idoesstuff1 This video is what brought me to you and I am now subscribed. I definatly rate the retro build I would have loved duel Pentium 3s in my rig when at the time I was probably using a low tier equivalent AMD chip. My x58 is getting on a bit now though but I don't think it's retro yet.
@@idoesstuff1 Yeah, that's about the only use I've found for them in my MP system. I'd like to play with SCSI some time, but for now I took the easy route of Sata.
System has two PCI buses. Remember that the entire PCI bus runs at the speed of the slowest card, so if you put a 33 MHz audio card and a 133 MHz RAID controller into the PCI-X slots, the RAID controller will only run at 33 MHz. Use the PCI-X bus for fast cards and the conventional PCI bus for slow ones.
@idoesstuff1 your popins and post added pictures are out of sync with the video one example is 11:53 the picture is before when you say you'll put a picture up
I do not understand why people still use mechanical HDDs for anything other than large storage anymore. Why use that old HDD instead of a cheap CF card with an IDE adapter or a cheap SSD with that SATA adapter? If capacity is a limitation, 4GB CF cards are $15, while 32GB are $30, and 120GB SATA SSDs are $17.
IIRC NT versions of windows would wear out the CF card because of excessive pagefile usage compared to 9x versions. SSD's would be a good option however it wasn't until Windows 7 that TRIM support was added which means on versions earlier then 7, a HDD is reccomended. Also you might want to get the experience of a slow spinning drive compared to an abnormally fast and silent SSD.
CM Stacker STC-T01! I'm doing my Socket 7 Overclocking (NF7-S, XP1700 and/or 2500) setup in mine. Kept it around for years.
I'll probably get crucified for this, but Win2000sp4 was my favorite OS. Like you, I could never leave my machine alone and the OS never gave me any issues, and IIRC not a crash. Good luck with that beast!
2000 was my os of choice great dx 8.4 retro gaming/benchmark system . i miss tht build
I never got to try Windows 2000, but I have an old laptop that has Windows 2000 drivers on the Dell website for that specific laptop so I'll probably install it soon to see how it is, just for fun.
@@arandominternetuser9099 kick the tires on it, it's kinda like XP and 98 had a very stable baby, lol. I ran graphics programs on it and I couldn't have been happier.
Mine as well, even it is still quite tricky and Server 2003 was quite error free.
I think the "problem" with Win XP was the P4 mess I didn't really realized because that time I worked with laptops on servers and privately I used Dell Dual Xeon Workstations, even I wondered about the heat they produced.
Windows 2k pro was a great OS for servers and business use. Never had any issues running it for long periods of time.
Superb build,So nostalgic seeing that Windows 2000 Boot screen,love the simple clean GUI with no bloatware or crap.
Those brackets at the start are for mounting the floppy drive. When this case was originally released it didn't include those and you were expected to mount the floppy drive in one of the HDD cages. However people complained because it reduced the total number of HDDs you could install. CM therefore started including those brackets with the case. No, you can't mount HDDs on them. Floppy drives and hard drives have screw holes in different locations. [ETA: P/N RC-880-FKR1]
I have the same case (not using it atm) it's full of 300gb scsi drives and no motherboard in it atm. Mine also has three hard drive cages in it. A big a$$ case with alot of room. I had many different builds in it during al these years. I have a dual 370 rock solid Tyan motherboard in another case with dual 1,4ghz cpu's with sb live and the sb live front panel. Another one with a Gigabyte dual 370 board and dual 1,26ghz cpu's. Both has 2gb of ram. To use 4gb of ram on a 32-bit system you most have PAE enabled in the OS to enable 36-bit memory addressing, otherwise only 3,25 gb will be used because of the 32bit memory addressing limit. My main pc uses a big e-atx black LIan Li PC-A77 case. Beautiful case. Another system I have with dual 771 cpu's in the rare Lian Li PC-777 snail case. I will never sell it, I bought it of ebay never used for 100 dollars included shipping. Great video,
For hdd I really love having a swappable drive bay. Ssd's are so cheap now. I got an ssd for 98, one for xp and one for mint. Really great way to add more usefulness to a retro build. I know I could use grub to multiboot but sometimes that can be annoying to setup.
Thanks for making this video. As a former computer technician and now more of a hobbyist, I've always loved server hardware. There's just something interesting about it compared to regular desktop hardware. I still have an old Dell PowerEdge 2650 in my closet. Couldn't even tell you the specs, I just know it uses DDR RAM and has a couple of small SCSI drives in it.
Funny, I just recently had case with the same “slot tilt/mismatch” as you did. First time in my life.
As far as I remember, the Service Packs for NT and 2000 sometimes had to be applied again after software and drivers had been installed.
This does seem to have be the issue for at least the sound card install for me.
Wicked Video sir !! Bringing back memories ! that. copy *.* i386 to c:\
hell yeah, i've been waiting for this video since part one came out
I also converted an old discarded Socket 604 server board to a retro platform... With two Netburst Xeon 3.60 GHz processors and 16 GB DDR 266 RAM distributed over 8 slots. Thanks to a PCI to PCIe adapter, I was able to add a Radeon R7 250 with 2 GB to the PC. Yes, it doesn't fit in with the times, but the device only has PCI slots and this is a very efficient graphics card with low power requirements that even runs under XP. At least it had around 14000 points in 3DMark 2001 Se at 1280 x 1024 and 32 bit. I wanted to build a dual socket 370 like that, but you can hardly get the necessary hardware anymore. And if you're still looking for a 1400 Tualatin, you're more likely to win the lottery before you find this CPU anywhere. Everything is difficult and expensive. But I still have a Dual Slot 1 machine here with 2x 700 MHz and Fx 5900. It's also iconic.
I have a similar machine, though mine has a 8x PCIe slot so I was able to put a GT 730 in it. It scores 870 in Fire Strike haha.
@@moardargons8160 Very nice x8 isn't bad for such an old device. Technically my board has PCIE, but unfortunately no slots were provided by the manufacturer. It's a shame but you can't have everything.
@@chrisrudi7162 Mine is a ProLiant ML350 G4p which is yours?
@@moardargons8160 Wonderful devices, the ProLiant servers... I already had some of them, but I had to give them back due to lack of space. Among other things, the DL380 G1... with four processors. And then some more. I use a self-built system with a Tiger i7320 (S5350) motherboard in the big tower.
true cinema is back
Built on NT technology = Built on New Technology technology !!! That was the official naming, says a lot about the people working on it.
Yes, always getting down to the little nitty-gritties like expansion cards won't fit in properly, suitable screws, connection cables, missing BIOS settings, and on and on.
Well, I do have two servers of that PIII Tualatin kind (Supermicro 1 HE and a highly rare GA-6VTXD; but as well RAMBUS Dual Xeon 1.7/ 2 GHz, Dual PIII 1 GHz Slot 1, 133 MHz ECC but also Dual PIII 100 MHz ASUS P2B-F in a No Name server case on rolls with 6 SCSI Front Loader Bays.😉
Based on the driver in windows the SB0460 is a Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeMusic.
Apparently these custom OEM cards can be a pain to install
Yeah, it kinda was a pain. I had to find a specific dell driver for it.
Yeah, that X-Fi really reaches the limit when it comes to an OS older than XP/2K3. Windows 2K is the absolute limit when using adapted Dell drivers. :P
What about the modified drivers?
great to see it coming on great, yeah sometimes you have to install a service pack for the later hardware, NT 4 is like that, most of the hardware it needs service pack 3 minim for hardware to work. the two larger slots i think are 64bit, which i think are more geared for raid and maybe networking. Any standard card that goes in, the slot will behave like a standard slot.
Love that case but it's sooo heavy. I have 3 of them.
I commented about this case in the last video as I've used it continuasly since 2001 starting with an AMD Duron build and ending with my x5650 build I currently have in it. I think I've had 15is builds in it and I've retrofitted the front of the case with 3 120mm fans and reworked the front panel to use usb 3. I think it will be my case forever tbh.
It is a nice case and I was going to use it for my modern PC. I even bought a new front panel for it with new power and reset buttons plus USB 3.0 and c ports but decided to do this retro build instead.
Thanks for watching!
@@idoesstuff1 This video is what brought me to you and I am now subscribed. I definatly rate the retro build I would have loved duel Pentium 3s in my rig when at the time I was probably using a low tier equivalent AMD chip. My x58 is getting on a bit now though but I don't think it's retro yet.
Sick build bro
awesome
Did you look in the Boot options on the BIOS to skip the memory test?
I did and I didn't see an option to skip it unfortunately.
I had that very board
how much was the ram?
About $60 usd
@@idoesstuff1ouch lol
I just ordered sata to ide for ssd for my pentium 3 900mhz
What's the deal at 11:49 ? Edit: nvm, i listened to what you said 10 seconds later.
Any plans for the 64-bit slots?
possibly some scsi controllers for more expansion? not really sure yet.
@@idoesstuff1 Yeah, that's about the only use I've found for them in my MP system.
I'd like to play with SCSI some time, but for now I took the easy route of Sata.
@@phillycheesetake you can drop any card in them depending how the pin lay out is, and it will just behave like a 32 bit slot.
System has two PCI buses. Remember that the entire PCI bus runs at the speed of the slowest card, so if you put a 33 MHz audio card and a 133 MHz RAID controller into the PCI-X slots, the RAID controller will only run at 33 MHz. Use the PCI-X bus for fast cards and the conventional PCI bus for slow ones.
@@moardargons8160 yeah, think those are normally for raid, or very high end network cards.
you could have just set the dimm Error pause to disabled in the bios
I realized that in this video. I don't have a ton of experience with a variety of older server hardware. Thanks!
Pretty good video but there is an issue with your editing
What is the issue? I am not a pro. I use free editing software and usually film and edit my vids in one day.
@idoesstuff1 your popins and post added pictures are out of sync with the video one example is 11:53 the picture is before when you say you'll put a picture up
I do not understand why people still use mechanical HDDs for anything other than large storage anymore. Why use that old HDD instead of a cheap CF card with an IDE adapter or a cheap SSD with that SATA adapter? If capacity is a limitation, 4GB CF cards are $15, while 32GB are $30, and 120GB SATA SSDs are $17.
IIRC NT versions of windows would wear out the CF card because of excessive pagefile usage compared to 9x versions. SSD's would be a good option however it wasn't until Windows 7 that TRIM support was added which means on versions earlier then 7, a HDD is reccomended. Also you might want to get the experience of a slow spinning drive compared to an abnormally fast and silent SSD.
Put Linux on it.
Maybe one day