I feel nostalgia watching your videos, it's like good old gameplays where creator makes multiple parts of one gameplay series, but instead gameplays you do PC related videos
You’re only getting 800x600 in Unreal because that’s the maximum resolution a Voodoo 2 can do. The Voodoo 1 is restricted to only 640x480. I think you can enable 1024x768 when running in SLI, though I could be wrong, it’s been a long time.
I had one dual P3 board, an Asus one, CUV4X DLS. Ut was a nightamare because chipset drives does not help to improve anything. I was able to run some ahead of time games like Fallout 3 but the many otjer constraints of the system really impact on performance. Miss that board though...
Dual cpu's should help the system multitask much better so in theory games should have more resources available to them. I could test this by removing one cpu.
I remember running Linux on a Dual Slot Pentium 3, and being excited when my distribution published an SMP kernel. I was dual booting with Windows 2000. That thing could hold its own well enough against the single socket P3s. I ran a single socket system for a short time thereafter, and the system stalling under load mad me wish for the old dual P3 back. Lower FPS, but a more responsive system overall. At least until the Core 2 Duo came along.
Like 100. !!! I can tell Everyone at my 25-year High School Reunion!!! Nice Job Sir!, I had a Gateway Tower with Dual PIII's running Suse 9, and I thought I was Awesome! lol Incredibly Outdated, but best Garbage Picked system I ever found up until 2004
Beware that Voodoo2 cards were not designed to run with 1000 MHz CPUs and will overheat. This is not good for hardware preservation. You should mount a fan over them to keep them cool. Alternatively, underclock them so they run slower than stock. I have one of mine running at 75 MHz instead of default 93 because of this. (Use the Voodoo 2 Tweaker tool for this.)
voodoo 2 can only do 800x600 at 16 bit , do you perhaps have 8 megabyte versions of that gpu? i don't remember if 12mb can run 1024 but there wasn't much improvement from doubling the voodoos in your system which is instresting
Turns out I have the 8mb version despite what the seller stated. I'm probably going to get/build a p2 system in the future and put these in it as sli doesn't offer much with benefit in this system.
@@idoesstuff1 just get the missing memory chips and let someone solder them for you , or do it yoursel, there is no need to change anything in the bios or add other components iif i remember corectly, if there were 4 empty sockets on the back you would just put memory thereas is like on every s3 trio ever made if you want 1024x769 in decent color space
@@moardargons8160 yes but you have technically 2 frame buffers in sli and both of them render half the resolution so dual voodoo should be abl to do 1024x768 because both cards would use half of frame buffer required for that resolution, 12 mb would just let you play more games for example gta3 refuses to launch on single 8mb voodoo2 but it limps on dual 12 after pre rendering some asets
Did anything back in the day use 2 CPUs? Outside of pro applications, that is. I would've loved to have a system like this back in the day. I had a copy of Softimage that I played around with a little, and I think it could use 2 CPUs.
Old retro games don't support dual cpu's but the system multithreads much better than 1 cpu so there should be more resources available to the game than a single core system.
@@idoesstuff1 So, not as useless as an FPU with an 8086 system. I guess Windows 2000 probably plays a big part in dual CPU utilization. Nice build, can't wait to see more.
Quake 3 used the second processor, but the performance boost was small, about 20%. You would usually get a much bigger improvement by installing a better graphics card.
Did they ever make PCI-X video cards? Would they be easy to find? I think the most popular cards from that era were AGP, with some PCI cards. I used to run an Geforce4 MX440 in a dual P3. As unpopular as they were, the GeForce FX series might be a good fit, or the ATI Radeon rival. The Voodoo 2 is extremely weak for a dual P3, I had one for backwards compatibility, but I was running Windows 2000 playing early Windows XP era games. It deserves a Voodoo 3 or higher.
@@marvinmallette6795 I believe Matrox released a 64-bit PCI-X version of their Parhelia card, but (a) it's very hard to find/expensive, and (b) it's not very good. You will do better with a cheap GeForce PCI card from the same era.
Part of me wonders what the oldest, most balls to the wall insane specced build could still run serviceably today. Like, what's the oldest platform that could be upgraded to the max to be a usable windows 11 PC?
Maybe a good start is to look at the minimum specs to the system and gradually get back in time. Maybe some good dual core and a decent AGP can run, like Core 2 Duo and nVidia 7000 series or ATi 2000 series.
Windows 11 with its TPM requirement is a high bar. That pretty much rules out any system made before 2010. If you can bypass that however, 64-bit computers with PCIe slots and SSE3-capable CPUs existed as far back as 2004.
Nice. I love the dual P3 . And getting it all sorted out is the fun? part.. lol. But in the end it's a 2ghz 2 core rig. A 2 core duo with a 512 mb pcie card would run so much better. But where is the fun in that build..
I will be revisiting this build shortly to finish it up. I know a little bit more about it now with some research and hopefully will get it running the way I think it should. OR we upgrade it. Who knows?
Kind of a weird era. Not really fast enough for XP, dual socket 370 really was purely for professionals, cad, and servers for the most part on nt and 2k. Cool project though! No one said you had to use both the CPU's though you could do 98se.
The original XP would be fine, once you install SP2 and SP3 it massively drops performance and increases boot times. I put XP on way slower hardware than this.
@@idoesstuff1 ah good, so you could try something like halflife source or counterstrike source since they have use multi core rendering as an options in the video menu, not sure if it will work on voodo's tho...
@@BilisNegra NT 4.0 Workstation supports two, Server supports four, and Enterprise supports eight. (Note that NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 don't distinguish between sockets, cores and threads. They're all just seen as distinct physical CPUs.)
@@BilisNegra NT 3.X is multiprocessor. The advanced server edition supports 4 processors. It supports pre-emptive multi-tasking, Symmetric multiprocessing and uses multiple threads.
I feel nostalgia watching your videos, it's like good old gameplays where creator makes multiple parts of one gameplay series, but instead gameplays you do PC related videos
You’re only getting 800x600 in Unreal because that’s the maximum resolution a Voodoo 2 can do. The Voodoo 1 is restricted to only 640x480.
I think you can enable 1024x768 when running in SLI, though I could be wrong, it’s been a long time.
12:52 - You need SLI to be able to do 1024x768!!!
I had one dual P3 board, an Asus one, CUV4X DLS. Ut was a nightamare because chipset drives does not help to improve anything.
I was able to run some ahead of time games like Fallout 3 but the many otjer constraints of the system really impact on performance. Miss that board though...
Dual cpu's should help the system multitask much better so in theory games should have more resources available to them. I could test this by removing one cpu.
I remember running Linux on a Dual Slot Pentium 3, and being excited when my distribution published an SMP kernel. I was dual booting with Windows 2000. That thing could hold its own well enough against the single socket P3s. I ran a single socket system for a short time thereafter, and the system stalling under load mad me wish for the old dual P3 back. Lower FPS, but a more responsive system overall. At least until the Core 2 Duo came along.
I still have one of these cases in use and I love it!
I had video cards if you want them they get connected together so perfect for a vintage dual setup
That would be awesome, you can email me at idoesstuff2@gmail.com and we can discuss it. Thank you!
Like 100. !!!
I can tell Everyone at my 25-year High School Reunion!!!
Nice Job Sir!, I had a Gateway Tower with Dual PIII's running Suse 9, and I thought I was Awesome! lol
Incredibly Outdated, but best Garbage Picked system I ever found up until 2004
great vid
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beware that Voodoo2 cards were not designed to run with 1000 MHz CPUs and will overheat. This is not good for hardware preservation. You should mount a fan over them to keep them cool. Alternatively, underclock them so they run slower than stock. I have one of mine running at 75 MHz instead of default 93 because of this. (Use the Voodoo 2 Tweaker tool for this.)
I didn't even think of that, thanks! I don't want to cook these things as I'm seeing them go for $200 each on ebay right now.
voodoo 2 can only do 800x600 at 16 bit , do you perhaps have 8 megabyte versions of that gpu? i don't remember if 12mb can run 1024 but there wasn't much improvement from doubling the voodoos in your system which is instresting
Turns out I have the 8mb version despite what the seller stated. I'm probably going to get/build a p2 system in the future and put these in it as sli doesn't offer much with benefit in this system.
@@idoesstuff1 just get the missing memory chips and let someone solder them for you , or do it yoursel, there is no need to change anything in the bios or add other components iif i remember corectly, if there were 4 empty sockets on the back you would just put memory thereas is like on every s3 trio ever made if you want 1024x769 in decent color space
To check this, look at the card properties. The 8 MB card has 4 MB of texture memory and the 12 MB card has 8 MB. (Both have 4 MB frame buffer memory)
@@moardargons8160 yes but you have technically 2 frame buffers in sli and both of them render half the resolution so dual voodoo should be abl to do 1024x768 because both cards would use half of frame buffer required for that resolution,
12 mb would just let you play more games for example gta3 refuses to launch on single 8mb voodoo2 but it limps on dual 12 after pre rendering some asets
Did anything back in the day use 2 CPUs? Outside of pro applications, that is. I would've loved to have a system like this back in the day. I had a copy of Softimage that I played around with a little, and I think it could use 2 CPUs.
Old retro games don't support dual cpu's but the system multithreads much better than 1 cpu so there should be more resources available to the game than a single core system.
@@idoesstuff1 So, not as useless as an FPU with an 8086 system. I guess Windows 2000 probably plays a big part in dual CPU utilization. Nice build, can't wait to see more.
Quake 3 used the second processor, but the performance boost was small, about 20%. You would usually get a much bigger improvement by installing a better graphics card.
i would try to get a PCI-X gpu instead of a PCI gpu
I'm currently researching a good gpu upgrade for this machine.
Did they ever make PCI-X video cards? Would they be easy to find? I think the most popular cards from that era were AGP, with some PCI cards. I used to run an Geforce4 MX440 in a dual P3. As unpopular as they were, the GeForce FX series might be a good fit, or the ATI Radeon rival.
The Voodoo 2 is extremely weak for a dual P3, I had one for backwards compatibility, but I was running Windows 2000 playing early Windows XP era games. It deserves a Voodoo 3 or higher.
@@marvinmallette6795 I believe Matrox released a 64-bit PCI-X version of their Parhelia card, but (a) it's very hard to find/expensive, and (b) it's not very good. You will do better with a cheap GeForce PCI card from the same era.
Part of me wonders what the oldest, most balls to the wall insane specced build could still run serviceably today. Like, what's the oldest platform that could be upgraded to the max to be a usable windows 11 PC?
Maybe a good start is to look at the minimum specs to the system and gradually get back in time.
Maybe some good dual core and a decent AGP can run, like Core 2 Duo and nVidia 7000 series or ATi 2000 series.
Windows 11 with its TPM requirement is a high bar. That pretty much rules out any system made before 2010. If you can bypass that however, 64-bit computers with PCIe slots and SSE3-capable CPUs existed as far back as 2004.
@@moardargons8160 well keep in mind, windows 10 is still current for a few mlre years
@@moardargons8160 and, hell, as far as i know, 32 bit windows 10 is also still current, so you could go even lower
Nice. I love the dual P3 . And getting it all sorted out is the fun? part.. lol. But in the end it's a 2ghz 2 core rig. A 2 core duo with a 512 mb pcie card would run so much better. But where is the fun in that build..
Interesting. 17:20 - With 2 Voodoo 2's in SLI it should get between 70-80 fps in 800x600.
I will be revisiting this build shortly to finish it up. I know a little bit more about it now with some research and hopefully will get it running the way I think it should. OR we upgrade it. Who knows?
Kind of a weird era. Not really fast enough for XP, dual socket 370 really was purely for professionals, cad, and servers for the most part on nt and 2k. Cool project though! No one said you had to use both the CPU's though you could do 98se.
The original XP would be fine, once you install SP2 and SP3 it massively drops performance and increases boot times. I put XP on way slower hardware than this.
funny coz none of the software knows how to use dual cpus including the os, should of tried at least windows xp, could be a good try for part 4...
Windows 2k pro supports 2 cpu's.
@@idoesstuff1 ah good, so you could try something like halflife source or counterstrike source since they have use multi core rendering as an options in the video menu, not sure if it will work on voodo's tho...
@@idoesstuff1 In fact, I'm not sure about NT 3.X, but NT 4.0 supports two CPU's too!
@@BilisNegra NT 4.0 Workstation supports two, Server supports four, and Enterprise supports eight. (Note that NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 don't distinguish between sockets, cores and threads. They're all just seen as distinct physical CPUs.)
@@BilisNegra NT 3.X is multiprocessor. The advanced server edition supports 4 processors. It supports pre-emptive multi-tasking, Symmetric multiprocessing and uses multiple threads.