Very informative. This is the only video I could find that showed the jet pump shallow well repair where the foot valve had to be replaced and the ejector cleaned and replaced. Thank you for posting it.
Thank you, if you attempt this type of repair you need to be very careful. If you break or lose the pipe in the well you can be in bigger trouble. Have help pulling the jet and also a vise clamp on pipe each time it's cut or you stop pulling.
Keep these videos coming! Loved the customers talking like you are family, y’all put them natural at ease. Great insight on something I’ve never dealt with, but maybe I can share some learned wisdom on my mission trips here in the south
Amazing video You are very polite to that lady I don't know how I would act if someone would kept talking while I'm trying to work but you did great job. I have a well just like this but it's outside away from the house. I noticed one day that my pump would run and then shut off and then run and then shut off and I realized that it was getting up to pressure than the water was running back down into the well. It has to be the foot valve so that's what I'm going to try to do exactly what you did I'll use my 12-ft ladder though to pull the pipe up and out. I'm sure it's got sand in it just like this great video.
Wish you were here in Tennessee.. You can't find a well company out here, that returns your call when you finally do get one they send out a kid who doesn't know anymore then myself..
Casey, I spoke to you yesterday about a well in Abita Springs. Just found you channel on youtube, great content. I'm going to trouble shoot my MSE-6 pump again with your advice over the phone and maybe try another pressure switch. If all fails I will contact and schedule a service call.
Hahaha good deal, Yea just let me know if you need help or have any questions. I'm all about customer well education so you know how to fix small problems or prevent bigger problems. Thanks for the comment and watching, Casey
I got a vertical goulds jet pump just like this setup and the motor burned out. Can I replace it with a horizontal convertible jet pump. It’s just like this but it has a fat 6 inch pipe coming from the well unless that’s just the casing itself. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.
@@Mimiandfriend it's better if you have a large casing of at least 4 inch or bigger to have a submersible pump. You can install a convertible deep well pump with the two pipe offset like you should already have. It's just not recommended because of the two pipe offset is very heavy to work with completely full of water. They are also very difficult to prime offset from the well more than a few feet.
Pulling deep well jets can be routine and easy or stuck and extremely difficult. Usually the worst factor is the installed location and setup that creates more difficulty.
Hey I have a question my well is same as that one I pulled up and replaced the seal then stick it back down and went a little too deep so couldn't fill up water to prim and try to pulled back up a little bit but got stuck so wonder what do i need to do to fix the issue? Please any idea it'll help thanks
@@PhuNguyen-o9o did you add more pipe to your jet line? If you did you probably went into your screens and the pump cannot Prime as it will drain back down into the well. You are probably hung up in screen joint. It can be very difficult to pull back up. Try twisting while pulling through the jamb, but do it not backwards to unscrew jet. If you still can not get out easy call a well company, good luck. , Casey
Interesting to see how this is done in a different market. I've been pulling foot valves in Nortwest Florida for about 30 years. We don't use leathers here, mostly because the majority of wells here are used for irrigation and do not utilize a pressure tank. I was kinda surprised that the jet was not replaced while you had it out, just based on the iron build-up on the pipe. I'm assuming this was a drinking water well, you don't pump it off after you pull the foot valve? In my experience the water is always really nasty from sliding the foot valve out and back in, disturbing the iron scale on the inside of the well casing. Not trying to talk down your methods, just an observation. Great content on a subject not many people are aware of.
Hey if I could use a rubber seal packer rather than leather it would be better in some wells. Mostly we use leather because the wells have to be maintained and jet cleaned or they can get stuck in the well. So having a leather that will fail in 5 to 10 years forces maintenance so they don't end up having a locked jet and losing a well. Yes I always run the water afterwards to flush it out I just didn't put that in the video. There is a lot of iron in this water in our area and yes it does get stirred up when you pull the jet. Thanks for the comment and watching, Casey
If you have 2" well case pipe and the suction pipe is 1 1/4. Than the PVC pipe connectors are almost 2" outside diameter and if you put it back to the well, it will not be enough space for the water to go through. If you use 1" pipe than it may be ok, but it may downsize the water flow. What size of the suction PVC pipe do you use? I have tried to substitute old, rusty metal/galvanized 1 1/4 pipes in my well with PVC or Poly pipes, but I could not find any options/adapters or connectors small enough to do that. Maybe it is silly question, but do you or anyone have any suggestions? THX
@@Mirek-q7r on a 2 inch deep well system you have to use what is called Crown adapters. The adapters allow one inch pipe to be connected to the jet assembly and the casing adapter. These connections are inch and a quarter but are very thin joints. There is plenty enough room to go around for the low volume of water that is required to make the jet work. The suction pipe is the 1-inch Center at the outer casing is the discharge to the jet. The crown adapters can be hard to Source but a water well company that normally works on these types of pumps would have them in stock. Thanks for the comment and watching, Casey
Casey, thanks for reply. I have 2 inch well and the suction pipe inside was 1 1/4 steel galvanized pipe with long very thin couplings. It was perfect size for the water to go through. The check valve/foot valve in the packer was bad and the pump did not keep prime. I have fixed that, but now I have to decide if to install it with original metal galvanized 1 1/4 pipes or if it is a chance to substitute these with PVC or Poly pipes. The problem is the 1 1/4 PVC or Poly connectors are to big in outside diameter for this 2 inch well. So my question is, if it is OK to substitute the old galvanized 1 1/4 pipes with 1 inch PVC or Poly pipes? Thanks again!
@@ClearWaterPumpWell The pipes are old and rusty, I can't and I don't want to re-use them. I can probably clean and re-use the old couplings. I have to buy new pipes, and now it is the dilemma! What would you do? Use the 1 1/4 steel galvanized pipes or downgrade to 1 inch and use PVC or poly pipes and connectors? Thx
That is what is called a male crown adapter, which is used instead of a regular male adapter. A typical male adapter is too weak and will break, something you don't want happening down hole. All joints should be Crown adapters connecting to the Jet and chasing adapter as well as only long Bell couplings on the drop pipe. Thanks for the comment and watching, Casey
Yea I got lucky I had already worked on it a few years ago, long enough for me to forget. I'm pretty sure it was really bad then! Thanks for the comment and watching Mitch!
It ain’t fun until it’s in a spot where you have to cut the pipe in 4’ sections to get it out and have to make sections with male and female adapters to put it back. On an 80’ drop pipe. Under a counter in the dining room or under a raised house. That’s when you tell the customer they need to start calling someone you don’t like. 😎
@@ClearWaterPumpWell ummmm, nope. There’s a sub under the floor of a bedroom on N Factory, another under a box in the middle of a kitchen farther up N Factory, and another in a closet in Merrywood that was once under custom cabinets that had to be demolished when the pump died. There are at least 5 wells under the parking lots of Popeyes in Covington with no access. Correction, one is under the walk-in freezer. They kept forgetting where the well was and just jack hammered a hole and drilled a new well until they finally got city water. Such intelligent decisions
@ thanks for the quick reply! I’m in northern Michigan, with a deep well and a vertical jet pump like this. I had a well service out and they replaced the pump and tried for hours to get it to prime and pump with no luck. They think the jet and screen down in the ground needs replacing. 😬
@jaythompson6810 if it's not hanging over 100' it should not be that expensive. They should also follow through after replacing the jet by putting your old pump back on the well as more than likely there's nothing wrong with it. This has become common practice for big companies that become Parts Changers to make more money replacing entire systems unnecessarily. Even worse sometimes they sell a substandard model that can prove to be a bigger problem in the future.
@ I think my well is 60’ to 100’ but the old pump was bad it cracked and was leaking water so it was replaced. I called a company and they won’t even replace the screen and jet. They just said to redrill a new well and quoted me $11,000. Is there any tips to clear the screen? I was told there are acid tablets that could be dropped down the pipe to help dissolve some of the buildup. I do have another well company coming out this week so hoping he can figure something out. I’m really not financially in a to put a brand new well In.
@@jaythompson6810 You don't need to clean it, you need to pull the jet, replace it or rebuild it with new foot valve and leathers. I highly doubt anything is wrong with your well casing, this is normal repair and maintenance on a 2" deep well pump system. I hope the company you get next is not lazy or money hungry!
The 12" adapter you slipped on the end of the drop pipe for the ejector... you called that a "crown adapter"? I can't find anything on the net about a "crown adapter". Is there another name for it?
PVC Deep Well Jet Adapter, it's usually a custom made and hard to find. A old guy used to make them on a lathe and called them Crown Adapters a branded name like.
No on a deep well jet pump the jet goes in the well. It's a device that uses a Venturi action to create suction at the jet below the water table. This allows the the pump to work at deeper water tables than 20'. It has a foot valve to seal the suction and a set of two leather to seal the casing to the jet on the return side.
Where do you get the jet ejector from? Is the jet ejector and foot valve the same thing? I have the similar setup. Having a hard time finding what i need my pump keeps losing prime.
More likely you just need a foot valve and leathers, the jet only needs to be replaced when it has a hole in it. Check a local hometown hardware like Ace they should have them there.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell thank you, when we pulled it up, looked like the foot valve wasn’t on the end of the jet? But something in the jet was moving around ?
@@Boss-hg6ul Yes the jet comes with a internal style falling check valve. I remove those as they tend to cause the jet to wear a hole in it. Easy way to prevent a failure and just add a nipple with a foot valve to the jet end.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell what size foot valve the one i got from hardware store is 1 1/4 and it wont fit the 2” well casing got the 1” foot valve the start with and it wont screw on the threads of the jets. Thanks
I live in Iberia parish I don't know how deep my well is but yesterday I had about half the water volume as usual so I went check the well in the shed and the motor was running non stop so I checked for leaks on my house I couldn't find anything then it lost prime so I shut it off. When I tried to reprime it the same way you did I put over 25 gallons down the gauge hole and it never filled up do you have any idea of what could be happening. Also I did shut off the supply to the house when I tried to prime it. My well and pump is around 12 years old.
If it's a deep well pump mounted on the well or a two pipe offset it's probably a bad jet or leathers. It's generally maintained every 5-10 years so if it's never been done then I would say it's time.
either the Lethers or another big culprit is the Foot-Valve Aka: Check-Valve has gone bad which if you've got Lether seals they get replaced along with the check valve which causes water backflow into well when they take a crap
Very informative. This is the only video I could find that showed the jet pump shallow well repair where the foot valve had to be replaced and the ejector cleaned and replaced. Thank you for posting it.
Thank you, if you attempt this type of repair you need to be very careful. If you break or lose the pipe in the well you can be in bigger trouble. Have help pulling the jet and also a vise clamp on pipe each time it's cut or you stop pulling.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell great advice from an obviously experienced professional.
Keep these videos coming! Loved the customers talking like you are family, y’all put them natural at ease. Great insight on something I’ve never dealt with, but maybe I can share some learned wisdom on my mission trips here in the south
Thanks for Watching! Take Care!
Excellent repair, commentary priceless!
Amazing video You are very polite to that lady I don't know how I would act if someone would kept talking while I'm trying to work but you did great job. I have a well just like this but it's outside away from the house. I noticed one day that my pump would run and then shut off and then run and then shut off and I realized that it was getting up to pressure than the water was running back down into the well. It has to be the foot valve so that's what I'm going to try to do exactly what you did I'll use my 12-ft ladder though to pull the pipe up and out. I'm sure it's got sand in it just like this great video.
Thanks. Mrs D is a hoot.
Wish you were here in Tennessee..
You can't find
a well company out here, that returns your call when you finally do get one they send out a kid who doesn't know anymore then myself..
You are amazing and your are not a cowboy like some other well fixers, thanks dale
Great video. I used to do some of that here in SE Texas. Good job man.
Those pliers almost went spelunking! Nice catch
Casey, I spoke to you yesterday about a well in Abita Springs. Just found you channel on youtube, great content. I'm going to trouble shoot my MSE-6 pump again with your advice over the phone and maybe try another pressure switch. If all fails I will contact and schedule a service call.
Hahaha good deal, Yea just let me know if you need help or have any questions.
I'm all about customer well education so you know how to fix small problems or prevent bigger problems.
Thanks for the comment and watching,
Casey
Nice one sir 👍 from the Philippines
I got a vertical goulds jet pump just like this setup and the motor burned out. Can I replace it with a horizontal convertible jet pump. It’s just like this but it has a fat 6 inch pipe coming from the well unless that’s just the casing itself. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.
@@Mimiandfriend it's better if you have a large casing of at least 4 inch or bigger to have a submersible pump.
You can install a convertible deep well pump with the two pipe offset like you should already have. It's just not recommended because of the two pipe offset is very heavy to work with completely full of water.
They are also very difficult to prime offset from the well more than a few feet.
Terrific! Where can I get a crown adapter?
Heck not sure but probably at your local well supply.
Well great video for sure but my goodness it looks like i have a job to get done on a well that did not look very fun to me
Pulling deep well jets can be routine and easy or stuck and extremely difficult.
Usually the worst factor is the installed location and setup that creates more difficulty.
Hey I have a question my well is same as that one I pulled up and replaced the seal then stick it back down and went a little too deep so couldn't fill up water to prim and try to pulled back up a little bit but got stuck so wonder what do i need to do to fix the issue? Please any idea it'll help thanks
@@PhuNguyen-o9o did you add more pipe to your jet line? If you did you probably went into your screens and the pump cannot Prime as it will drain back down into the well.
You are probably hung up in screen joint. It can be very difficult to pull back up.
Try twisting while pulling through the jamb, but do it not backwards to unscrew jet.
If you still can not get out easy call a well company, good luck.
, Casey
Interesting to see how this is done in a different market. I've been pulling foot valves in Nortwest Florida for about 30 years. We don't use leathers here, mostly because the majority of wells here are used for irrigation and do not utilize a pressure tank. I was kinda surprised that the jet was not replaced while you had it out, just based on the iron build-up on the pipe. I'm assuming this was a drinking water well, you don't pump it off after you pull the foot valve? In my experience the water is always really nasty from sliding the foot valve out and back in, disturbing the iron scale on the inside of the well casing. Not trying to talk down your methods, just an observation. Great content on a subject not many people are aware of.
Hey if I could use a rubber seal packer rather than leather it would be better in some wells. Mostly we use leather because the wells have to be maintained and jet cleaned or they can get stuck in the well. So having a leather that will fail in 5 to 10 years forces maintenance so they don't end up having a locked jet and losing a well. Yes I always run the water afterwards to flush it out I just didn't put that in the video. There is a lot of iron in this water in our area and yes it does get stirred up when you pull the jet.
Thanks for the comment and watching,
Casey
If you have 2" well case pipe and the suction pipe is 1 1/4. Than the PVC pipe connectors are almost 2" outside diameter and if you put it back to the well, it will not be enough space for the water to go through. If you use 1" pipe than it may be ok, but it may downsize the water flow. What size of the suction PVC pipe do you use? I have tried to substitute old, rusty metal/galvanized 1 1/4 pipes in my well with PVC or Poly pipes, but I could not find any options/adapters or connectors small enough to do that. Maybe it is silly question, but do you or anyone have any suggestions? THX
@@Mirek-q7r on a 2 inch deep well system you have to use what is called Crown adapters.
The adapters allow one inch pipe to be connected to the jet assembly and the casing adapter.
These connections are inch and a quarter but are very thin joints.
There is plenty enough room to go around for the low volume of water that is required to make the jet work. The suction pipe is the 1-inch Center at the outer casing is the discharge to the jet.
The crown adapters can be hard to Source but a water well company that normally works on these types of pumps would have them in stock.
Thanks for the comment and watching,
Casey
Casey, thanks for reply. I have 2 inch well and the suction pipe inside was 1 1/4 steel galvanized pipe with long very thin couplings. It was perfect size for the water to go through. The check valve/foot valve in the packer was bad and the pump did not keep prime. I have fixed that, but now I have to decide if to install it with original metal galvanized 1 1/4 pipes or if it is a chance to substitute these with PVC or Poly pipes. The problem is the 1 1/4 PVC or Poly connectors are to big in outside diameter for this 2 inch well. So my question is, if it is OK to substitute the old galvanized 1 1/4 pipes with 1 inch PVC or Poly pipes? Thanks again!
@@Mirek-q7r if they are in good condition and not heavily corroding, clogged.
Make sure threads are cleaned up and doped.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell The pipes are old and rusty, I can't and I don't want to re-use them. I can probably clean and re-use the old couplings. I have to buy new pipes, and now it is the dilemma! What would you do? Use the 1 1/4 steel galvanized pipes or downgrade to 1 inch and use PVC or poly pipes and connectors? Thx
@@Mirek-q7r You can't use poly pipe as it will crash under both vacuum and pressure in casing. If you use pvc you will need to find crown adapters.
What do you call the adapter the jet screws into? Please sir
I would also like to know
What is that fitting at the top of the drop pipe called that screws into the casing adapter?
That is what is called a male crown adapter, which is used instead of a regular male adapter.
A typical male adapter is too weak and will break, something you don't want happening down hole.
All joints should be Crown adapters connecting to the Jet and chasing adapter as well as only long Bell couplings on the drop pipe.
Thanks for the comment and watching,
Casey
What is that pvc pipe cutter with lock?
Where can a get a pair of vice grip pliers like you have for pulling the 1” suction line?
They are vise grips with a 1-1/4" steel pipe coupler cut and welded in the jaws, Custom Made.
Casey, That looks like a lot of fun!
Yea I got lucky I had already worked on it a few years ago, long enough for me to forget. I'm pretty sure it was really bad then!
Thanks for the comment and watching Mitch!
It ain’t fun until it’s in a spot where you have to cut the pipe in 4’ sections to get it out and have to make sections with male and female adapters to put it back. On an 80’ drop pipe. Under a counter in the dining room or under a raised house. That’s when you tell the customer they need to start calling someone you don’t like. 😎
@@JRPittman Hahaha, you Got that right! Dang Jamie I hope that's just a tall tail and not a real horror story!
@@ClearWaterPumpWell ummmm, nope. There’s a sub under the floor of a bedroom on N Factory, another under a box in the middle of a kitchen farther up N Factory, and another in a closet in Merrywood that was once under custom cabinets that had to be demolished when the pump died. There are at least 5 wells under the parking lots of Popeyes in Covington with no access. Correction, one is under the walk-in freezer. They kept forgetting where the well was and just jack hammered a hole and drilled a new well until they finally got city water. Such intelligent decisions
@@JRPittman Good lord! Yep, you are a legend sir!
Can a faulty jet cause a new pump not to prime and pump water?
@@jaythompson6810 absolutely
@ thanks for the quick reply! I’m in northern Michigan, with a deep well and a vertical jet pump like this. I had a well service out and they replaced the pump and tried for hours to get it to prime and pump with no luck. They think the jet and screen down in the ground needs replacing. 😬
@jaythompson6810 if it's not hanging over 100' it should not be that expensive.
They should also follow through after replacing the jet by putting your old pump back on the well as more than likely there's nothing wrong with it.
This has become common practice for big companies that become Parts Changers to make more money replacing entire systems unnecessarily.
Even worse sometimes they sell a substandard model that can prove to be a bigger problem in the future.
@ I think my well is 60’ to 100’ but the old pump was bad it cracked and was leaking water so it was replaced. I called a company and they won’t even replace the screen and jet. They just said to redrill a new well and quoted me $11,000. Is there any tips to clear the screen? I was told there are acid tablets that could be dropped down the pipe to help dissolve some of the buildup. I do have another well company coming out this week so hoping he can figure something out. I’m really not financially in a to put a brand new well In.
@@jaythompson6810 You don't need to clean it, you need to pull the jet, replace it or rebuild it with new foot valve and leathers.
I highly doubt anything is wrong with your well casing, this is normal repair and maintenance on a 2" deep well pump system.
I hope the company you get next is not lazy or money hungry!
Do one on reason a shaft seal would need to be replaced and how to replace them
The 12" adapter you slipped on the end of the drop pipe for the ejector... you called that a "crown adapter"? I can't find anything on the net about a "crown adapter". Is there another name for it?
PVC Deep Well Jet Adapter, it's usually a custom made and hard to find. A old guy used to make them on a lathe and called them Crown Adapters a branded name like.
What do you mean by jet? It's just a screen and a foot valve no?
No on a deep well jet pump the jet goes in the well. It's a device that uses a Venturi action to create suction at the jet below the water table. This allows the the pump to work at deeper water tables than 20'. It has a foot valve to seal the suction and a set of two leather to seal the casing to the jet on the return side.
What kina avc is that
Where do you get the jet ejector from? Is the jet ejector and foot valve the same thing? I have the similar setup. Having a hard time finding what i need my pump keeps losing prime.
More likely you just need a foot valve and leathers, the jet only needs to be replaced when it has a hole in it.
Check a local hometown hardware like Ace they should have them there.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell thank you, when we pulled it up, looked like the foot valve wasn’t on the end of the jet? But something in the jet was moving around ?
@@Boss-hg6ul Yes the jet comes with a internal style falling check valve. I remove those as they tend to cause the jet to wear a hole in it. Easy way to prevent a failure and just add a nipple with a foot valve to the jet end.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell ok thanks for the info. You saved me from a lot of headaches and money! Really appreciate you.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell what size foot valve the one i got from hardware store is 1 1/4 and it wont fit the 2” well casing got the 1” foot valve the start with and it wont screw on the threads of the jets. Thanks
How many jet well??
I live in Iberia parish I don't know how deep my well is but yesterday I had about half the water volume as usual so I went check the well in the shed and the motor was running non stop so I checked for leaks on my house I couldn't find anything then it lost prime so I shut it off. When I tried to reprime it the same way you did I put over 25 gallons down the gauge hole and it never filled up do you have any idea of what could be happening. Also I did shut off the supply to the house when I tried to prime it. My well and pump is around 12 years old.
If it's a deep well pump mounted on the well or a two pipe offset it's probably a bad jet or leathers. It's generally maintained every 5-10 years so if it's never been done then I would say it's time.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell It's a well exactly like in this video. How much does it usually cost to have this repair done.
@@matthewhenry6797 Right now around 300-600$ depending on depth of drop pipe and parts required. But that's my prices.....
either the Lethers or another big culprit is the Foot-Valve Aka: Check-Valve has gone bad which if you've got Lether seals they get replaced along with the check valve which causes water backflow into well when they take a crap
i live in Fl.
It's very scary to call a plumber to fix your pump.
They just want your money.
She dodged that how old are you question 😂
I have put in a new pump, primed it, new foot valve, new jet. Still nothing. Pump over heats and shuts off. No pressure
Then that has nothing to do with the jet, you might have the wrong voltage setting on motor.
I'm surprised to see someone using PVC on a deep well application most in my area use metal piping on wells except for the well casings
Wish it was more light, can't see what is going on
Yea sorry about that I will try to film a good jet pulling in outdoor lighting.
No need for a jet down in the well with a water level that high
4:24. She has biggggg tools
Haha poor old D has Dementia losing her mind!