DIY DEEP WELL HAND PUMP INSTALLATION + RESULTS

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  • @michiganengineer8621
    @michiganengineer8621 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Next step, a big wheel (like an old spinning wheel) attached to a rod to move the pump handle. Drive the "spinning wheel" with a bicycle sprocket and chain.

  • @martingororo4747
    @martingororo4747 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love your teamwork!

  • @kwanelemthunzi1311
    @kwanelemthunzi1311 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad that they is no snow now hope you are enjoying the summer

  • @debraelliott8371
    @debraelliott8371 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you are having a great Memorial Day. The appt looks awesome, beautiful And Sara loves it ! Thank you for your service Martin. God bless you all!!

  • @shonnbell7887
    @shonnbell7887 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea... I'm going to remember this when we get to that point.
    Keep up the great work

  • @jeriholdren1780
    @jeriholdren1780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool! this is awesome! reminds me of our cistern and hand pump at grandma's kitchen back when I was young!

  • @leonasimmons162
    @leonasimmons162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's good to have one the property. Thanks for sharing.😊

  • @randywilson9611
    @randywilson9611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good to see y'all again good video

  • @littlegriffoffgridalberta6837
    @littlegriffoffgridalberta6837 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great idea ! Water is very important on any build & a second pump is supper idea :) I found your cannel as you were helping some else out getting back into their cabin property :) Nice to have good Neighbors like you !

  • @jackspitler2651
    @jackspitler2651 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You guys are awesome and fun to watch! Thanks for sharing!

  • @rmartinie
    @rmartinie ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Awesome Job y’all 💪🏻
    Thanks so much for sharing this aspect of well water and pumps!! 💧 Great information!!
    God bless you!! 🙏🏼

  • @patrickharmon9459
    @patrickharmon9459 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Awesome! Didn't know there was a hand pump that would work that deep. Keep up the good work and God bless.

  • @mskippi
    @mskippi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job putting that together, I bet it’s a bit of a relief.

  • @dianesnow9806
    @dianesnow9806 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job folks! 👍👏🏻💕

  • @caryevans8598
    @caryevans8598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love y'all's videos . Have a great day 🙂

  • @grammybear4226
    @grammybear4226 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    🐼 Big Bear Hugs from a 68 yr old grandma in Kirby, Texas, USA 🐼 ❤ 🎀 ❤ 🎀

  • @69lilTrouble
    @69lilTrouble 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The algorithm is strong. Lol. I just happened to be looking at one of these at the TSC today and was planning on doing some research. Ty for this. Perfect timing 😁

  • @suzeewills1249
    @suzeewills1249 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your drone clip of The Long Bridge.

  • @seekerbee4494
    @seekerbee4494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad you showed us this and will serve its purpose nicely. Lol, I wouldn't rely on it if your house catches fire.

  • @ob1kamoody242
    @ob1kamoody242 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The left hand thread at the top is simply there so when you disconnect at the top for service you turn to the right and guaranteed to break that connection instead of a downhole connection which would all be tightening as you turn

    • @TheOnlySgtRock
      @TheOnlySgtRock 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant. Thank you.

  • @serenity6988
    @serenity6988 ปีที่แล้ว

    A pure example of some beautiful people on our planet!

  • @markholmes1346
    @markholmes1346 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a pretty slick system, thanks for sharing! ✌🏼❤️🙏🏼

  • @pltspemula
    @pltspemula ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job...! To have electricity, water and a home, is to have life to the fullest... be happy always sir and family...

  • @nates2526
    @nates2526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info. My static water line is about 100’ as well.

  • @brendagervais5566
    @brendagervais5566 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that is terrific! Thank you for sharing

  • @garylewellen4241
    @garylewellen4241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cool setup and good job on the video I believe the reverse threads are so the center rod doesn't get loosened

  • @suzeewills1249
    @suzeewills1249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God bless your family.

  • @dorothyallen3614
    @dorothyallen3614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What team work and thanks for information all should know for the future

  • @lectro5418
    @lectro5418 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Marty, I've been concerned about the same issue and plan to install install a pitcher pump on one of my old wells. This is a super vid. I wasn't aware such well caps are available. Now i can search for one for the size I need. Btw, watchout for that yellow rope you have holding the weight of your pump, it has a tendency to dry rot and rapidly disintegrates from ultraviolet sunlight.

  • @rongray4118
    @rongray4118 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for posting your video. Deanna and I are an hour away from their facility (Reno to Minden, Nevada!)... we will be speaking with them next week. Blessings and Happy New Year to You Both!!

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good thing we did all the push ups in December so you can pump for 4 mins - LOL. I might have rotated a little so the water outlet is away from the blue well cover. Then a bucket could sit up next to side of well and fill up. Hose works too. Thanks for sharing

  • @eflanagan1921
    @eflanagan1921 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cute miniature Boston !

  • @gig777
    @gig777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is awesome. Nice job!

  • @donaldyoumans275
    @donaldyoumans275 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My son manufactures simple pump here in Nevada..I helped him
    .great product..

  • @suzeewills1249
    @suzeewills1249 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching your videos.

  • @christopherjacobs654
    @christopherjacobs654 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A windmill with a cranking toggle would be ideal for your hand pump . It would save you tons of time pulling water up into your cistern .

  • @Hemi24
    @Hemi24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even rocking the demo ranch shirt .. niiice

  • @fromhousetohomestead
    @fromhousetohomestead ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! We will be checking that out for sure!

  • @walkermediaworx
    @walkermediaworx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing the demolitia shirt told me I was on the right channel 😁👍

  • @p.a.d2167
    @p.a.d2167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ánimo ..saludos desde la sierra de Madrid España

  • @anglersnw
    @anglersnw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done regarding the video. I enjoyed watching it. I have a sister in Sagle who I visit often to fish Pend Oreille (Garfield bay) with my cousin from Rathdrum. Love that portion of Idaho which reminds me of my home town in NW Montana (Libby). I have a well on my property here in Butte, MT and because of the current issues in our world, am considering just such an animal to at least be able to get water in an emergency. I did look at the other style but as you said, they are really only good for a short draw. This one is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks again for sharing your videos.

  • @scottp4862
    @scottp4862 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Cannot believe how much you have done since the start of your build, not to mention living in tents in the beginning! You all are doing such a great job!

  • @freddien7
    @freddien7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jules the comedian!!! Love how you put in 3 pipes, forgot the center ring and had to start again but didnt get upset!!. Thanks for the video Love from UK.

    • @moluswildernesshomestead
      @moluswildernesshomestead ปีที่แล้ว

      That is great always something new as I Built my own log cabin alone in the wilderness, come and joined me at my channel

  • @nicobogaard2315
    @nicobogaard2315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something like watching the grass grow for about 4 minutes. Great vid guys, love your show

    • @bradfordpalmer2298
      @bradfordpalmer2298 ปีที่แล้ว

      They sell a DC powered electric motor to hook to the pump jack. Boom

  • @edwhite7475
    @edwhite7475 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, i subscribed.
    My well head looks about the same.
    We just bought a house in the foothills in NC.
    Its the best water ive ever drank.

  • @johnarizona3820
    @johnarizona3820 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool. God bless!

  • @stevehildreth1934
    @stevehildreth1934 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We are also in northern Idaho. Our well is 580 feet deep with a static level of 80 feet. We added a deep well hand pump on our well also. The choice came down to Simple Pump or Bison Pump. I went with the Bison. The installation is basically the same for both pumps. Ours works well too! You have the option of adding a solar powered motor to your's that Bison doesn't offer on their pump. Other than that we are very happy with our hand pump!

  • @laruedouglas1064
    @laruedouglas1064 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That sure will be handy 😉

  • @suzeewills1249
    @suzeewills1249 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @racingrobert1
    @racingrobert1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your videos We are moving from California, where we have a completely off-grid cabin to Emmett Idaho (back on the grid) anyhow we used a solar well system I bought from RPS 4000$ for the pump and solar panels, and pumped in to a 5000 Gallon tank, The well pump does not work after sunset. So the tank had a 12 volt RV pump in line to bring water to the house,

  • @SerendipitySue
    @SerendipitySue หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've had a Simple pump on my 50' well for 10+ years. I've got it connected to the 12V linear motor and a lead acid battery. I have a 100W solar panel to keep the battery charged. I use it for filling my pool and watering the garden. It's been great. I haven't changed any gaskets yet...

  • @TheNewNimrod
    @TheNewNimrod หลายเดือนก่อน

    When i went to the Philippines to see my wife and her family, they had a pump.
    It was the best pump ever. I could fill up a gallon bucket with around 20-25 pumps

  • @fordbuchanan8630
    @fordbuchanan8630 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I guess I should have read the description first. When a seller wants you to request a quote instead of listing prices, it's always a good sign they're going to overcharge.

  • @dtmfjeff306
    @dtmfjeff306 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the kind of video that PUMPS me up.

  • @bobbarnes4399
    @bobbarnes4399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other than the pre-contamination part this is a pretty good demonstration

  • @markboler8411
    @markboler8411 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When you said something could "take out the solar system" instead of thinking about your solar panels, I was picturing something taking out all of the planets from Mercury to Pluto. LOL

  • @aaronbuster7201
    @aaronbuster7201 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need to see more of that Boston Terrier

  • @BobsPetStopVideos
    @BobsPetStopVideos ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks gus!!

  • @josephg.3370
    @josephg.3370 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video!

  • @NDcompetitiveshooter
    @NDcompetitiveshooter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video. I've installed one of these years ago. Just don't forget to sanitize your well after working in it. Cheers

  • @irtiqasalamat1316
    @irtiqasalamat1316 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good job appreciate.

  • @russellwatters5891
    @russellwatters5891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That'd be the ticket instead of a pitcher pump anyways, more leverage, more water. Thanks for sharing this, I've got a few uses for it. Love ya'll and what you're doing ❤️

    • @ljprep6250
      @ljprep6250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pitcher pumps are only good down to 28 feet, no deeper. Pumps with a lift rod can go much deeper.

    • @russellwatters5891
      @russellwatters5891 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ljprep6250 Thanks. I found that out, about 11 months ago. It worked perfectly in Tennessee, not so in Missouri.

  • @mikemmikem2758
    @mikemmikem2758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kool water pump. You could hook up a gizmo (metal or PVC) to the pump handle and make hand pumping a lot easier.

  • @jbshascommon4687
    @jbshascommon4687 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now you take a discarded bicycle and fabricate a cam set up for the rear wheel and sit down and go for a lackadaisical ride!! Nice video ,thank you both, be blessed with health and happiness. J

  • @LaidBackLiving
    @LaidBackLiving ปีที่แล้ว

    Been looking into this as well. Great video, looks like a really nice setup.

  • @bamastead5126
    @bamastead5126 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks just like a miniature version of how the old windmills pump water. That’s awesome !

    • @mikeunum
      @mikeunum ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Here in the Netherlands we support and repair our old windmills and we have still a lot of them. Also groups of poeple who care for them in any way. Young people starting to learn the millers handwork and they do this with a lot of fun and enthusiasme. Also there are still some mills who mills the grain we have. One other task is to pump water in the lower lands in the winter to flod it to prepare the ground for the spring. Also we have them to pump water away when a certain level is reached to get rid of to much water. And in nearly every windwill there is a 5...10 KW motor to generate electricity. Which can be used in the windwill and or charge LiFePo4 accus. Yeah the dutch old guys had many ideas and we hold them alive and ad modern things. Not all but some modern things. Everey year we have a day called the windmill day so that everyone can come and see and learn things over that whole system build across the Netherlands.

    • @bamastead5126
      @bamastead5126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikeunum That is amazing and wise. Old ways most of the time are still better ways. We have an old 16 foot on a well pumping into a holding tank. I was so excited when we got it working again. I think I posted a short vid on it. Mine is too small for power generation but it will keep the garden and fruit trees watered 🙂

  • @emmahandford9026
    @emmahandford9026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! ha ha! Maybe, a bicycle pedal powered simple pully system, for the pumping arm would work out better for you? Just a thought. And you guy's are amazing. Blessings to you and your family.

  • @billyhaddock5540
    @billyhaddock5540 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congrats Guy's on getting the Hand Pump installed. i had enough time to feed my
    cat in the carport, feed the cat on the back porch and get myself some ensure to drink
    before u filled the 5 gallon bucket. lv ur videos.

  • @officedemon
    @officedemon ปีที่แล้ว

    love the Tshirt

  • @judemccooey4987
    @judemccooey4987 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @brianfloyd5925
    @brianfloyd5925 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great pump !

  • @Redneck_Ed
    @Redneck_Ed ปีที่แล้ว

    Those new mics sound great too.

  • @JoeSmith-be3ur
    @JoeSmith-be3ur 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WELL THIS IS GREAT...GLAD YOU MADE THAT MISTAKE FOR US TO SEE...
    I LEARNED FROM IT...I HAVE A SIMPLE PUMP...BUT WILL INSTALL IT ONLY IF ITS EVER
    NEEDED...EMP OR WAR TIME NO POWER GRID
    THANKS GREAT TH-cam VIDEO.!

  • @eduardonieto2355
    @eduardonieto2355 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is cool my friends.
    🙏👍❤🇺🇸

  • @GadderInd
    @GadderInd ปีที่แล้ว

    Great pump, i want to make it in my village

  • @davidnewhouse23
    @davidnewhouse23 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still like it bit thought it would be a little faster. Nice video guys.

  • @debrezo58
    @debrezo58 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My hubby and I have been wanting to do this with our well. Thanks for showing how you did yours. Ours isn't as deep as yours is but he'd pretty sure he can do something similar. 🙏

    • @tabs41
      @tabs41 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well now you now know how not to do it

    • @moluswildernesshomestead
      @moluswildernesshomestead ปีที่แล้ว

      That is great always something new as I Built my own log cabin alone in the wilderness, come and joined me at my channel

    • @mkhankhan330
      @mkhankhan330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi want you to mine if possible plzz I am waiting

  • @unclemikeb
    @unclemikeb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clever, I like it.
    Back in the 1950's when I was about 9, one of my uncles had a house with a hand pump at the kitchen sink. He was told the builder dug the well first and built the house around it. The only electricity they had then was a single wire with bulb hanging down in a few of the rooms. He made a trough so he could pump water to the wood stove which had aside tank to heat water for bathing and dishes. From the water tank there was a hose that could send water to the tub in the very next room.
    If this will let you send pressurized water to the house that would be awsome.

  • @hmdmddh
    @hmdmddh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Job for pumping water from such deep well i sugest you to use a double acting cylinder (pump) at the botom to double the flow rate and get a continues flow

  • @LeonNaude111
    @LeonNaude111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plenty of flex on that setup while pumping. Might wanna add a support.

  • @hey_youtubeim_back2159
    @hey_youtubeim_back2159 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jules has the absolute cutest laugh

  • @danieljones7096
    @danieljones7096 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have this pump. Get the longer handle, it is definitely worth it. I can move the water up the 50 feet in my well in 6-7 pumps.

    • @invisible_agent503
      @invisible_agent503 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Link to buy the well pump kit?

  • @sa4727
    @sa4727 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be on the safe side, cover up and protect the yellow poly rope. Over time the sun will deteriorate it. Nothing worse than having it brake right at the wellhead.

  • @jasonstarr6419
    @jasonstarr6419 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Many moons ago, when we had a well dug, we ended up going 463 feet deep. One thing I learned from an "old timer" (a cousin who had a few decades on me) was to always attach a wire or rope to any tool i was using at the well head. Saved me more than once from losing a big pipe wrench down the hole. Like Lectro54 suggested, we used stainless steel aircraft cable to support our pump. Unfortunately for us, our well drilling company was less competent than yours was. They 1) under-perforated the pipe, 2) did NOT air blast the well when finished ("our compressor isn't working), and 3) left us with a well that would not even support a 7 gpm pump. On my current place, I want to put in a well to water the garden, but that's way down the "to do" list. Love your channel. Idaho looks gorgeous, but too cold for me!

  • @CrochetNewsNetwork
    @CrochetNewsNetwork 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We just moved from right below Sandpoint Idaho -- loved it there. Did I see a shot of Pend O’Reill Lake? Great work guys.

  • @mehmet284
    @mehmet284 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi julie hi martin good job greetings from the netherlands

  • @strongvoice-LK
    @strongvoice-LK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you need a lead free hose, for food grade, drinking grade, whatever it's called.

  • @unfairworld5914
    @unfairworld5914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful channel to get ideas of how to become autonomous and independent .I'm in the process of getting my homestead ready as well in the Basque country (north Spain)
    Just as a curiosity Idahoo is a Basque word means Ox stop . In the village that I'm building my homestead with solar panels and soon a water well pulling big rocks with oxes has been a sport for centuries,they look after them very well and a few times a year during festivities they do exhibitions and competitions as a cultural thing and a excuse to bet some money on your favourite ox
    .it's easy to understand when you are here how centuries ago when locals of these few villages went to America as shepherds decided to name the area Idaho

  • @Anthony-zf1uq
    @Anthony-zf1uq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I don't understand why people continuously cooperate with code inspector's these people are not your friends they are only there to see how much money they can seal from you they can't do anything except put a lean on the property and if the property is payed for they can't do anything and unless you sale the property they get nothing from you and they can't take the property for the lien and if you put your children on the deed it will just sit there and have absolutely no affect on anything and your taxes will stay low ..

    • @professorleon8467
      @professorleon8467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I can tell you're a cool dude

    • @Doug-gp2qw
      @Doug-gp2qw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We need a reasonable code and code enforcement. It's there to protect the next owners or occupants. Property rarely stays in the family, it's often sold to an unrelated owner within 10 years. I've seen tons of problems from improperly constructed or installed products. Like using bell wire for a 20 amp circuit or placing the building foundation directly on earth without a footing and above the frost level.

    • @Anthony-zf1uq
      @Anthony-zf1uq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Doug-gp2qw the only thing that the code inspector is there for is to harass people so they can make more money for the city or county by making sure that you taxes go up so they can steal your land I will never comply and there do not need to be any other owners except family...

  • @pdufusc
    @pdufusc ปีที่แล้ว

    YEP! roll'n on the floor @ 12:09.... been there---done that!!!!

  • @scottloutner5253
    @scottloutner5253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never use vaseline. It's a petroleum base. It eats rubber.
    Unless your O ring is nylon or a petroleum impervious material.

  • @thegarbagegladiators4735
    @thegarbagegladiators4735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Inspector? Thought you were off the grid...

  • @akuinnal_zeus
    @akuinnal_zeus ปีที่แล้ว

    Terbaik pak martin 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @avidaderutelopes
    @avidaderutelopes ปีที่แล้ว +6

    amo essa família linda, parabéns a casa ta um sonho, bjs no coração, um abraço aqui do Brasil pra vocês ❤❤❤❤

  • @bishopkinlyside8477
    @bishopkinlyside8477 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Marty and Jules it’s good to read the instructions LOL here in Australia as men, do not like to read instructions and obviously you don’t too , When you put things together and you’ve got all these spare things over then it is a good time To read instructions LOL Cliff from Logan City Queensland Australia

  • @Sgt.k
    @Sgt.k 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative. Very deep well. I thought my well was deep 170’. Are you sure you should have glued the “expansion couple” I would not have done that and allowed it to slide up and down during ground freeze/thaw?

  • @WarpFactor999
    @WarpFactor999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job! Good thinnin' Martin. Always good to have an emergency source of wa-wa. If your electric well pump were to break, you wouldn't be out of drinking water while you get a replacement. I don't remember, do you have a water softener yet? Would be a really good idea with yellow well water... Oh, did you ever pop the top on your cistern tank back up? Don't forget to build a roof over the cistern (on a slope) for snow protection next winter.

    • @ronicarbine8723
      @ronicarbine8723 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would suggest having a backup new pump in storage at all times

  • @Darenator1
    @Darenator1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info. Considering the $3,500 cost. My installed solution I think is better. My pump is at 150'. I have 1,600 gallon cistern filled by well and pump from cistern to house. I will be installing RV 12V backup pump on the cistern. I can run well pump on generator. I'm considering buying spare well pump and we'll pipe clamp tool if I need to replace pump myself.

  • @ineverhadthemoney7857
    @ineverhadthemoney7857 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the 1940 they had the rod pump on ele motor that would run the rod up and down and check vale to the water going back down the well //they used leather seals on a center rod

  • @celticwarrior1393
    @celticwarrior1393 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty cool I noticed the video of long bridge in Sandpoint I lived up in that area I lived up in Clark Fork I lived in Sandpoint absolutely beautiful country if you're going to go off-grid that would be the place to do it I now live in Northeast Washington up by the Canadian border north of Spokane love your Channel especially your solar setup I'm planning to do one here shortly anyways keep up the good work and God bless

    • @rascalmatt6713
      @rascalmatt6713 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been up there once. Colleville i think it was called? That was 1998. Really deep, dark forest. I grew up the S. Puget Sound area.... but after a career in the military, i decided not to move back. The liberal politics and anti 2A laws kept me from coming back.