If you ever wondered about the Lizardmen doomstack
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Hearing Legend in a cheery mood over the competence of the person who sent the save file is... nice :)
Gordon Ramsey: "Finally, some good fucking stacks"
*noice
He's bound to get some of these though. SYDBs are sent by viewers and this is precisely the type of army he recommends.
That one chaos giant at 20:02 that seems to just be absolutely broken from the fact 18 oversized lizards successfully held back and DESTROYED 3 well trained (not really) armies of melee units designed to be good at melee. And the oversized lizards were ranged units. A full 3 and 1/2 minutes of slow, giant brain processing how the fluff they got destroyed by an army nearly 1/100th the size of their own. and then the giants thinks "they had reinforcements that never got used"
That's Hillary Clinton trying to run for President 2020
At 32:05 there is another giant walking upto the line that routs, and just freezes there like the ones in the first battle.
Hey don’t forget the skinks on their backs firing the ballistae!
Hi legend! I sent The battle in and was really happy to hear that you thought i was competent, i learned it all from you. Thanks a hell of a lot. I did my best
wholesome
Who would win, the mighty Chaos invasion with 4 full stacks, or some fat dino bois with shooty shooty.
haha dino go boom boom
@@ferofax more like pew pew
Now if only that one fleeing stegodon could have a free +4 leadership buff, like if there was a free banner or something :P
Or it would have been on 1 of the other 17 stegodons... It's not like you are gonna be able to keep note of it.
Shattered units still fighting: CA's desperate attempt to screw over Legend when stompin stuff with Doomstacks
Stegodon was on a rampage. Why didn't he know that? xd
@@kolosmenus It wasn't showing the Rampage effect.
I’m still waiting for someone to send Legend a Giant Doomstack.
or a war wagon doomstack
are the tomb king giants as bad as all the other giants? they at least have ranged attacks
@@lukewithann7256 TK giant has good melee stat though, and bonus to wind of magic and some spells. Hierotitan is by no mean useless. Besides, they are properly dressed unlike the stinky giants the greenskin and chaos uses.
@@lukewithann7256 The hiero titan is way different and they are actually a very strong and very legit unit.
@@lukewithann7256 no, bone giants are some of the best TK units.
22:33 The giant on the river shore cheering for his pal alone against 18 stegadons, what a great friend to have, r.i.p
The two lossed steggy are actually ok because now the player can add a skink priest and a scar veteran.
Delicious
Someone likes massive dinos
Aggressive Tubesock who gives a quarter of a shit?
@Aggressive Tubesock Do us all a favor: The next time you have a thought, just let it go
Aggressive Tubesock you guys consider this lad could have been joking? Lol
just imagine if those were blessed stegadons instead of regular ones.
20:50 if only you had that banner.
Legend: Why is that broken giant still fighting?
Game: My turn to cheese fucker
fleeing giant is just "is it good to be bad ? Am i happy as a bad guy ?" lmfao
Starting 22:00 that other giant is chilling watching his buddy get f*cked
Top 5 Banners video when, Legend?
april 1st
Wailing banner was a godsend against Bretonnia.. on Normal Difficulty.
Legend, if you hold alt while placing a ground spell like Lifeblood it will stop trying to place it under a unit. This is really handy for catching more units and prevents what happened at 13:32
are you trying to get smote!? do not insult the Legend's intelligence, lest he lays into you with the full might of a pissed austrailian!
Legend even uses that in this video, it's a great thing to learn for new players and maybe you'll find one in the comments who appreciates this, but Legend knows his stuff...most of the time, I think it's amazing he often couldn't tell a broken from a shattered unit, although it has a big skull next to the white flag
Thanks mate! Didn't know that
that glitched out stegadon was having a personal protest. I DIDNT GET MY BANNER!
LOL, that giant standing and looking on "fuck, i dont wanna be part of this".
35:44 "Sacrifice them!!!" love it when chaos warriors shout it!
12:14 is the most adorable sound I've ever heard followed by lokir fellheart being placed in ice filled zones
The moment when he thinks he's found something in the army to moan about and then quickly backtracks
The giant up on the beach at 20:12 clearly trying to make sense of it all
I just did that yesterday against 2 massive skaven armies with my freshly made doomstack of stegadons. Was out of ammo by the second army but man it was satisfying to see them charge in. Thanks Legend for your video on doomstacks, i'm really having fun with them ( tried the ogre dragon shaggoth too )
Is there a mod that lets you have more than 20 units in a stack? Or by 2 massive armies do you mean 2 stacks?
@@ufc990 I don't know about mods, i'm like Legend in that regard in that i don't play with them. I meant there were 2 stacks ( technically there were 6 but i had wasted 2 with my other army led by krok-gar 1 with my doomstack and the 4th fucked off to try and siege one of my cities leaving my doomstack to deal with the remaining 2 stacks of skaven )
I've started using the Stegadon Doomstack, but I learned a lot in this video. One that I've learned the hard way is using Lightning Strike to divide and conquer, but having the stegadon bunch up to stun lock was an inspiration! I always line them up so they can fire, but then they're on an island in melee.
"you had a banner and didnt use it"
Legend - Puny banner
Lizardmen artillery is best artillery. :D I love those giant dinos!
Ahh..Playing as Nakai I loved the fact I could force give myself Blessed Stegadons. All the Bonus of Stegadon Spam, just better.
"I know My Matthew McConaughey impression is terrible, but there you go." Legend of Total War, 2020.
I've seen shattered units continue to fight when they join the battle right as you get the army loss penalty, but only 2 times in my 2000+ hours
"He just wants to die" - Bro same
Relatable 😹
I've only been playing for a couple weeks now and have only played as chaos warriors. I never understood how bad the AI was at making army compositions until I watched this.
AHAH , that stegadon , may hear u when u said dying in ur battle is a crime punished by death so he panic when he was dying , cuz dying times it s pretty bad
man, Lizardmen lore, looks and units are so great, gonna start worshiping Sotek
CA should hire legend as a beta tester, he seems to find every bug
His mood gets better when a good army composition is sent to him to work with.
"Banners? We don't need no stinkin' banners!"
This glitch you have, I had it in a battle yesterday, I was fighting on this map vs a point of interest and suddenly units stopped running away, some fought to the death, some stood still waiting, now I presumed Radios mod 1 and 2 mite have a glitch and ignored it, only happened once in 90 turns.
I have been enlightened and it is glorious. time to play another lizardmen campaign
I was screaming "use cold blood" or whatever it's called to restore leadership to the steg that broke and was about to die cause it wouldn't move
Maybe the Stegadon bugged out because he got broken, the he got his leadership back to unbreak him, but it didnt properly process because the Stegadon was rampaging?
i had this bug before, it occurs when you inflict army lost penalty on an army BEFORE all their reinforcments shown up, and they have some unbreakable units, and if you kill all the unbreakable units you can end the battle, even if some of their units are still fighting, it is really really weird, but i don't know if CA will ever patch this. basically, all the army on the field flee exept from the unbreakable ones, and reinforcements that show up are broken, but fight untill death instead of insta flee...
the almighty blob. Not a blob of skelly boys, but a blob is a blob.
Chaos still exists at turn 157, now that's something impressive.
If you hold alt you can cast aoe spells on the ground. You probably knew that but it helps cast healing spells in the centre of a blob of units.
He does it a few times in this vid
3:20 was like "ah yes, its the chad Lizard conduit, not the shitty one from other races"
20:19 thats one lonely giant reflecting his life XD
You already thought you found something to shit about with that Arcane Conduit, didn't you?
It’s not a glitch, the stegadons and giants just all took slayer oaths.
Aw, it's nice when the cheese-pope helps out one of his deciples.
But speaking of gods, I really enjoy having a handful of engine of the gods sometimes. While Stega-spam is definately more sustainable, nothing screams joy than to walk up to an enemy wall and laser half their army to death in one volley...
But it is not easy to pull off or simple to use, and with only 2 shots each, you gotta make them count.
Ah yes, the hard counter to the end of the world.
Stegadon herds and an angry white lizard.
But seriously notice how the temple guard still had a good number of remaining units that didint get wiped out even after going against such odds and being injured before the battle.
these lizardmen dude.
The giants were angry that you called them shit in your worst units video, so they continued to fuck with you after shattering
Alright Let's jump to the wall here !
Serving a disaster battle.
To everyone commenting about it, THIS IS A DIFFERENT BUG.
The bug everyone here is talking about involves SHATTERED units that arrive as the Army Loss penalty is applied. They arrive in a Shattered state but fight as if they're Unbreakable. I'm sure most people who have played long enough have encountered it at least once, and Legend has had it a couple of times.
What happened here is that ROUTING units (displaying a white flag instead of a skull) ON BOTH SIDES got stuck in place. At the same time that the routing Stegadon was stuck there was also a routing Giant in the same condition and then the second Giant (fighting the Stegadon) routed and got stuck, too.
@2.38 mark The reason why i don't send my SYDC's when they happen lol
Thing about the Stegadon is when it runs out of ammo it becomes a melee destroying monster. Personally I avoid doom stacks because I like a diverse field but I play casually only for rp and immersion. The Puppets of Chaos are a joke at first spawn, I took out all three in my campaign with a Skink Lord and a stack of Chameleons with auto resolve. I would suggest trying the ancient steg stack because it is a lot better than you would think. One ancient steg will take out 2-3 melee groups themselves. If you have a stack of them nothing short of Warmammoths maybe or perhaps Dragonogres will compete, which makes it not fun but you will win a lot. :p
I had a similar bug yesterday, not only were shattered units fighting but they were maneuvering and gunning down my troops. Fortunately there weren't any unbreakable units left so I could just end the battle but it was super weird.
MVP for me goes out to the kroxigors for holding that line!!
That banner woulda been much more useful on the other army. 4 leadership on a stegadon isnt going to make or 'break' that doomstack
Banners seem to be like vows are to me, hard to remember each time
Personally i think Ancient Stegadons are better at attacking, while the normal ones are better at both supporting other units and defending.
Because that is what artillery IS for, and they carry arty on their back. Engine of Gods is nice but suffers from extremely limited ammo.
Stegadon gangbang LOL
wow that bug where the broken/shattered units continued to fight was really strange, never seen anything like it
It happened to me a while ago fighting against the Empire. It seemed to apply when they got the army losses penalty while they were receiving reinforcements; the reinforcements were just outside the battlefield and presumably as a result, got the penalty and were routing, but the AI still had control over them and they continued to fight. It must be caused by something else though, since that clearly isn´t what happened here.
@@Riwillion Nah, that's not what happened here. That only happens to reinforcing units that arrive when the Army Losses penalty kicks in. They are SHATTERED (with a skull) but fight to the death as if Unbreakable. What happened here is that Routing (white flag) units just stood there, stuck in place. If you noticed, there was a routing Giant just standing there on the shore doing nothing while that Stegadon was doing the exact same thing, the only difference is that the Steg was in melee range of another Giant that seemed to enter the same stuck state when it broke.
@@sokar_rostau There are several things in his videos that never happen to me or anyone I know. Maybe he modded/cheated his game to a point where it's not stable anymore.^^
If we don’t get a bigger carnivore ima be sad.
If you see this, Legend, then you should try my favourite cheese stack. It's definitely not the most powerful, but it's a hell of a lot of fun! lt consists of Kroq-Gar on Grimloq with an army full of Scar Veterans, Chiefs and Priests on their monstrous mount choices (if healing is an issue then i'll put in 1 or 2 of the Revivication Crystal Bastiladons in the army). It takes a long time to get up to that point, but it's so worth it when you get Kroq-Gar and his hero posse kicking arse and taking names.
if only he get that red skill points for stegadoon,he wont lose that unit.3 turn to recruit is too long.
at the end of the first abttle the saving private stegadon moment x)
Legend just LOOKING for this dude to have fucked up somewhere in the save he got lmao
Shooty dinosaurs want to nom the spikey men!
They move in herds... They do move in herds.
+4ld in the boardgame would hilariously enough be completely fucking absurd. (Ld there is 1-10, with 7 being a standard professional unit.)
You should name the title of the video after the number of glitches this battle had, that was very entertaining.
Like throwing 10000 troops with no anti-armor weapons against a tank division.
Dont be mad about the banners guys. His father was a scarecrow banner and Legend never got to learn to fly because of him. He developed acute anti bannerism, which he still struggles with to this day. Check your priviledge first haters.
ah, yes. the infamous stackadon
I feel like banners in Warhammer are Legend's new merchants
I think there's a bug when the army losses triggers while reinforcements are still coming in especially unbreakable ones like the hell cannon. I ran into something like this once before and units kept fighting after breaking
Theory time.
CA needs to add some balancing mechanic to campaign like supplies for each army and region.
Each unit in the army has gets 3 values: supplies generated, supplies consumed and carry capacity (last one is debatable and can possibly be an army-level value).
Each region/province gets a cap on supplies it can provide and a % penalty depending on corruption and region type. Vampiric? Zombies are not edible (i think?). Skaven? Everything already eaten. Ocean? Needs fresh water.
Want a Mammoth in your army? Be prepared to have enough supplies to feed it. Want a mammoth stack? Well, doubtful. Ammunition could also be taken into account in this system to prevent pure ranged armies stacks.
Apart from pressuring the armies towards a more balanced composition, it would be possible to replace most of attrition and buff raiding as a mechanism to increase the supply gains from provinces. As an added bonus - it should also reduce the amount of armies that are bunched up together in the same province.
Sounds like a real challenge for the player
The AI would get bonuses to supply on higher difficulties/wouldn't be affected by it
That's the only issue
Neat idea. Hard to implement
@@Anaverageguy41 Well, the cheats are all in the hands of CA. I would like for that mechanic to also affect AI. Triple army battles are annoying af. Actually, gonna post it to them real quick, who knows. Maybe it's a good one.
Anyone else hate the auto tracking on earth blood? Lol
would an army of feral carno boys be a doomstack?
only problem is how do I deal with anti-large units with just carnos?
Lizardmen: *wump wump*
Might be a silly question but; which type (lore) of skink priest would you go for to improve this doomstack? Why?
27:00 fuck stegadons, i'm fight me some temple guard LOL
Wondering with the first battle would the protection spells been a better choice, effecting more of your units for a longer time. Mitigation of more damage then the limited healing. Good video.
9 months late but why didn’t he send 2 stegadons to take out the hell cannons? They were completely undefended come 9:30.
Legend almost never uses banners but what do you people think are the best banners.
I think some of the best are the Banner of Eternal Flame, Griffon Banner and Razor standard for elite infantry.
I like the dark elf one that gives frenzy.
Top 5 Banners video when?!?
@@chack321 You'll never find that video here!
Chaos Cannon are unbreakable!!! :(... Maybe that was the problem on the 1º fight.... and io loved the matthew mcconaughey impression LOL
Nah that wasn't the problem. There's no real way to tell why it glitched out.
Khorne says no one retreats.
"I dont need those banners. They only give leadership."
Game proceeds to break unit after having low leadership.
I think the game got angry hearing you call one of its feautrures useless.
Happy Legend makes any day better :p
Dude I love these. Thanks!
4:02 ... “and don’t forget children, giants are shit” 😂😂
23:33 revenge of giants! 🤣🤣 (whom are still shit ofc)
So what is a perfect stegadon army, and why we should add veteran to it? I get we should bunch them together so that take less damage form infantry but what do we do if enemy is mostly archers, like dark elves? Should veteran be on foot or ridding?
21:16 It's the revenge of the Ghost Yari Wall from Shogun 2!
The Avenger at Ilipa Be glad that after two months your comment has helped me remember that today Shogun 2 is free on Steam! Thanks a lot!
For my opinion chaos didn't have chance.
I've ALWAYS hated doomstacks. They just remind me of the lame ass 'spam tanks to win' RTS games.
But lizardmen doomstacks are basically my 5 year old self's dinosaur army battles in my yard, so it's totally okay, lol.
More Bretonnia!!
Cool fight except for the weird issue you had with the banner. It’s like you were fighting yourself.
If only legend put on the banner and the stegadon would not have been broken and gliched out >:|
That giant glitch happened to me too
Well... if he used the banner on one of the stegadons that died....
Big question. What do I put in Lord Kroaks army to heal stuff? 2 Bastilladons, or do I get a slann hero that can heal? The one Slann-Hero you get doesn't heal afaik.
When I have a sisters stack or large units only I like to put them in the water so infantry gets -80% melee attack. Is that worth doing ever? I noticed Legend didn’t so it might not do much but I would think -80% melee attack would be significant for small units.
Hmm, sisters are powerful melee units themselves so depend on which enemy units
I’m a big lizard men fan but I’m curious to know why you stack them and group them? I have serious trouble with the Dark elves and their range which makes me think would stacking be a bad call vs range?