I have the same bike and engine. If you want to do this mod, my advice is to grind the front oil drain bolt down. It makes the installation of the engine much easier.
This is another channel I watch pretty much just because I think the guys on the channel would be really fun to hang out with and pal around with in real life. The mechanic guy, Ike, in addition to being a great mechanic, is absolutely hilarious. And his "good ol' boy" southern accent is great. I love the content on the channel, but the personalities on it absolutely make it.
@@Erik0824 Yes well I am hoping predator will start selling full bikes and integrates a easily removed govener to get around what ever law requires it.
Pizza Sub you’re right ,we had one and the damn thing kept reviving and pulling away against our bigger engines ,we couldn’t keep up was it got up to speed
I did this conversion with a co-worker about 7 years ago and it was ridiculously fast even with the restriction on. Not stable, and easy to crash, and we left the stock brakes on. I took it for a spin, and it was wild. Just holding on the handlebars tightly can get you into trouble as you twist the throttle, because the pull of the bike makes you twist the throttle harder :)
The best upgrade to life in general is a Predator swap!! I was barely able to fit mine into my 1970 El Tigre (thats what she said). The gas cap is about 3/4" from the frame and the spark plug boot is about 1/4" from the frame.. I also had to modify and flip the exhaust manifold and make it run outboard because it wouldnt clear my sloping rear framerails. Somehow I made it fit and its nothing but pure joy! With 6:1 ratio gearing, the front wheel just wants to stay in the air and thats how I like it :).
I wish I were here for the humble beginnings! I just picked up this same exact mini bike and found out my favorite TH-cam crew had some projects with it as well!
i remember as a kid and racing minibikes at the Saddleback Motorcycle Park in Santiago Canyon, Southern California. I was sponsored and raced for " The Hawk " Racing Team. I rode a modified Zebra Mini Bike, with a 6 horse Techumshe motor punched out with a mikuni 26 carburetor running nitro methane using a torque convertor putting 12 horse to the rear wheel. I was clocked at speeds in access of 60 to 70 miles per hour. Those were the day's.
3:13 - so like when Jackie is around.... all the guys start actually working trying to show off and swaps get done in 10 minutes... Jackie deserves a raise.
I was wondering if you had the part numbers for the different clutch and chain used...it would be great if you had a list of all parts needed for swap. Thanks
remove the 4 mounting bolts holding the current motor on, unhook the chain, throttle cable and killswitch cable, engine should slide right out, and then basically do all those steps in reverse when putting the 212 on lol
The fun thing for me is I'm about to put that same motor on my mini bike and after seeing this I can't wait! Currently my mini bike has a bone stock 97cc on it(which is actually pretty fast as it can take me almost 28 mph) but I don't think it will compare at all to this new beast!!
man.....re watching this in 2019, pretty crazy to see your guy's reaction to those first wheelies....back then, a stock 212 was FAST! A lot has changed since then haha
patdonovan85 I just picked up a moto 80 mini bike and I want to put a 212 predator on it what Clutch and size chain do I need to complete the upgrade build
Owen Bochner Hope he gets it figured out, Does he happen to have purchased the California carbed 212cc predator?? I hear those run lean. I broke mine in with some Molybdenum oil additive and half ounce of 2 stroke in gas. Ridiculously smooth idle and overkill but I had the stuff on hand anyway.
cidoXL The Rotax is a two stroke, and the 212cc is a four stroke- they both have their pros and cons. The four stroke just happens to work better for my purposes (cheaper, more reliable).
Awesome video! I just bought a motovox with a Subaru 6.5 with the governor removed. It has a regular centrifugal clutch but has a lot of torque. I've had it about a week and wrecked it 4 times. I popped a wheelie and it threw me off the back. My neighbor is an old lady and she was in her driveway looking at me like wtf! I just said hey neighbor and smiled and waved. Lol.
Me and my boys just started this stuff we got a monster moto 80 and a yerf dog with a 212 predator swap... I'll send you videos we need pipes and clutches 860 ransom rd leasburg mo 65535 love you guys!
These engines only spin at 3600rpm wheras your dirtbike engine spins at 10,000+ rpm. Also these engines should never need a rebuild. But chances are your bike does every 100 - 200 hours right?
And these dudes either break something or change things out way under even 75hrs of ride time, so why does that even matter?. Wish they would put a 4 cylinder 600cc streetbike in something, would make it way more interesting.
Motorcycle engines are made out of higher quality materials, (forged piston and crank, titanium valves or something near) and with much closer tolerances. These little engines make less even though they're bigger because they aren't tuned the same and aren't built with the notion that they can bump compression since there will be a steady stream of air to cool it. Think of it more as an engine from a power washer, rather than a moto engine.
gsxr1kkid My bike is also air-cooled. Just seems a little lazy to be swapping in these slow, belt driven engines, when their are so many better options out there. I guess cheap and easy is all the appeal.
At the end of day one from trying to follow this "walk through" and I'm lucky I'm mechanically inclined, I've got another half day of work. Don't edit out the bs so folks actually see what you have to work through. Not subbing or liking this vid. I'll show y'all how it's done
I have one of those I got it for Christmas and blew up the original engine so I had one of the predator engines for my little 4 wheeler project so we're putting that on there
Hey so I was wondering what length chain you recommended for a good fit. I know that yours was loose so I was thinking y’all have figured that out. Let me know as soon as you can. Thank you
I enjoyed this. Thanks for the Monster Moto install- gives me an idea of fitment , since I just picked up two. And here I thought you guys were just for entertainment purposes only LOL
there is a throttle stop on the carb on that new motor. pull the throttle wide open and the screw it hits on the top of the carb back that out till it doesn't hit it anymore. mine went from 28 mph to 39 mph
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Lol, just found this great little throwback, what a gem!
It is scarily fast now! What should we do next?
Do a updated Mini Bike VS. Go Kart race!
He's right do another race!
80cc on a razor scooter
Me and my dad are probably making a mini chopper may be u should check those out
Find an old cheap car and build it up like ROADKILL!
I have the same bike and engine. If you want to do this mod, my advice is to grind the front oil drain bolt down. It makes the installation of the engine much easier.
This is another channel I watch pretty much just because I think the guys on the channel would be really fun to hang out with and pal around with in real life. The mechanic guy, Ike, in addition to being a great mechanic, is absolutely hilarious. And his "good ol' boy" southern accent is great. I love the content on the channel, but the personalities on it absolutely make it.
+Raycefan Thank you!
can u please put a link to all of the parts u used for the build
he sounds like hank hill
+CarsandCameras I live in spokane, you said you're in Washington. Are you the guys running around at 1am?!?
Raycefan everyone on TH-cam lives in washington
>marketed to kids
>adults use them more
Still love these little things
Ikr I was coming to get one and this guy was loading the last one in his truck with a predator
Heck I’m a kid and would kill for one of these beasts, but I can’t afford it and my parents say these are crappy bikes which I know is bs
@@am0804 most of the random no-brand ones are.
Put the 80cc engine on a bicycle.
Lol
Sam Young it won’t fit
@@Erik0824 80 cc is a kids toy you want atleast 200
ghost Unix yea I have a predetor 212 myself
@@Erik0824 Yes well I am hoping predator will start selling full bikes and integrates a easily removed govener to get around what ever law requires it.
DANNNNNG I love seeing the transformation from your old videos to the new ones. Always fun looking back on the older vids.
your girlfriend looks so bored xD
She is
I’d keep her busy
It’s so funny rewatching these old episodes, how young you guys were.
You should put the predator V-twin 670cc engine in it
AceRex that engine is as big as the bike
That the awesome thing about it :D
CelfBanditten it won’t fit
CelfBanditten how the fuck could you do that
@@colinbird264 start with a welder
Ike looks like Finnegan from Roadkill mixed with the Mechanical Stig from MCM.
+James Varner Not a bad mix...
+James Varner ill take that as a complement . lol
haha
+James Varner thats because he is
Megafons How did I not notice sooner? lol
The 2.5 horsepower engine reminds me of vtec. Once it gets to a certain rpm it really goes
Pizza Sub you’re right ,we had one and the damn thing kept reviving and pulling away against our bigger engines ,we couldn’t keep up was it got up to speed
I had a 9hp Wisconsin motor off a cement mixer on my mini bike when I was young. Literally had no brakes
I remember when you guys were so pleased with 6.5 HP. If only everybody could be like that. I know I’m not.
me: watching this video as a tutorial to build my own lol
I did this conversion with a co-worker about 7 years ago and it was ridiculously fast even with the restriction on. Not stable, and easy to crash, and we left the stock brakes on. I took it for a spin, and it was wild. Just holding on the handlebars tightly can get you into trouble as you twist the throttle, because the pull of the bike makes you twist the throttle harder :)
The best upgrade to life in general is a Predator swap!! I was barely able to fit mine into my 1970 El Tigre (thats what she said). The gas cap is about 3/4" from the frame and the spark plug boot is about 1/4" from the frame.. I also had to modify and flip the exhaust manifold and make it run outboard because it wouldnt clear my sloping rear framerails. Somehow I made it fit and its nothing but pure joy! With 6:1 ratio gearing, the front wheel just wants to stay in the air and thats how I like it :).
Man reversing the clutch is genius. Thanks guys you saved me a huge headache. Love your channel. Keep the great vids coming
No it's not it's what you have to do
14:44 anybody else see that tiger jump on the house between their shoulders?
Why hello there
Hey I know you!
Yo I love your channel and ur new 250 well not realy new but yea
ZACK YOUR MY FAVOURITE TH-camR
Omg zackgoes I love you channel
I wish I were here for the humble beginnings! I just picked up this same exact mini bike and found out my favorite TH-cam crew had some projects with it as well!
Any body else watching this in 2019
no
Absolutely
WTF am I seeing? and Is he still with her?
I'm watching it in 2024
They are like Tim and Al on first episode of Tool Time. Now John has beard and Ike doesn't.
i remember as a kid and racing minibikes at the Saddleback Motorcycle Park in Santiago Canyon, Southern California. I was sponsored and raced for " The Hawk " Racing Team. I rode a modified Zebra Mini Bike, with a 6 horse Techumshe motor punched out with a mikuni 26 carburetor running nitro methane using a torque convertor putting 12 horse to the rear wheel. I was clocked at speeds in access of 60 to 70 miles per hour. Those were the day's.
+Jimmy Jones nice
My dad would always talk about Saddleback and it sounds like pipe dreams when you hear about it because nothing like that exists in California anymore
I’ve watched this one too many times this is what made me start watching cars and cameras I believe
its amazing to see how much things have changed
So many memories back in the day when I watched this video and did the same with my first mini bike
3:13 - so like when Jackie is around.... all the guys start actually working trying to show off and swaps get done in 10 minutes... Jackie deserves a raise.
I am sure there is one in her future.
I've been watching since this video came out. It's like watching the Hobbit before they embarked on their adventure.
Thanks for this entertaining engine swap. I laughed as much as you guys when you got it fired up and popped those wheelies.
Bikes & Drones it was our pleasure. im shure we will have more videos to make you laugh.
I put a 6.5 on a doodlebug minibike. Wears out tires quick and you gotta lean forward a bit to keep the front end down but it’s awesome!!!
Who else is watching this in 2023
2024
Yep. 2024. Lol.
24
Y’all have come so far. It’s wild.
I was wondering if you had the part numbers for the different clutch and chain used...it would be great if you had a list of all parts needed for swap. Thanks
billyseanyoo Clutch: www.amazon.com/kart-Mini-Bike-Clutch-chain/dp/B00070JJZU/ref=asc_df_B00070JJZU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309806291903&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15365549610820850625&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008062&hvtargid=pla-571447405618&psc=1
Chain: www.amazon.com/Roller-Chain-Feet-Connecting-Links/dp/B018WFTJCY/ref=asc_df_B018WFTJCY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198082163421&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1712929284237699433&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008062&hvtargid=pla-384949906221&psc=1
Engine: www.harborfreight.com/65-hp-212cc-ohv-horizontal-shaft-gas-engine-epa-69730.
Tool to cut chain: www.amazon.com/Roller-Chain-Detacher-Breaker-Cutter/dp/B06XQDXW78/ref=asc_df_B06XQDXW78/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=246707620933&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13464725342958140896&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008062&hvtargid=pla-473346809679&psc=1
Anyone looking for predator motors in Australia. They are called "Rato" engines. They are exactly the same as the predator engines. The 6.5 hp is $240
could yall do a tutorial on how to install the motor?
It’s kinda common sense just bolt the think on the vehicle then but a clutch on it
remove the 4 mounting bolts holding the current motor on, unhook the chain, throttle cable and killswitch cable, engine should slide right out, and then basically do all those steps in reverse when putting the 212 on lol
I was wondering the same thing thank you all
1:55 hes test runnin the engine
I blew up my stock motor just before Easter, and I just got my predator 212 today. I'm so excited!!
watching in 2020... you guys have come a long way
How about selling me that chevy in the background 😁I'm like !!👍🏻
Yeah sell me the chevy
Yeah sell me the chevy
Yeah sell me the Chevy
Yea sell me the chevy
Yeah sell me the chevy
That's incredible!)))
8:52 a little to close there buddy
😂 glad I wasn't the only one to catch that.
The fun thing for me is I'm about to put that same motor on my mini bike and after seeing this I can't wait! Currently my mini bike has a bone stock 97cc on it(which is actually pretty fast as it can take me almost 28 mph) but I don't think it will compare at all to this new beast!!
man.....re watching this in 2019, pretty crazy to see your guy's reaction to those first wheelies....back then, a stock 212 was FAST! A lot has changed since then haha
Yeah
now yall need a doodle bug with a 420cc
Where are my 2020 viewers?
2021!
Where did you pick up the new clutch and chain?
patdonovan85 I just picked up a moto 80 mini bike and I want to put a 212 predator on it what Clutch and size chain do I need to complete the upgrade build
Jamaul Mullins did you find an answer?
I just did the Predator 212 swap to my monster moto 80. It has been one non-stop giggle ever since!
2020 GANGGG I'm getting one soon so hyped to buy one
Lmao!!!! You see him fly buy then.Dude are u alright 😂😂
Just put on the motor. How long should I brake it in for?
Don't give it full throttle for the first tank of gas or so
+Owen Bochner How did it go?
Went pretty well. I let run for about 2.5 hours and replaced the oil.
It seems to be running pretty well. My friend did the same thing but his is acting kind of strange. DarkLinkAD
Owen Bochner
Hope he gets it figured out, Does he happen to have purchased the California carbed 212cc predator?? I hear those run lean.
I broke mine in with some Molybdenum oil additive and half ounce of 2 stroke in gas. Ridiculously smooth idle and overkill but I had the stuff on hand anyway.
212cc and 6bhp ?
rotax 125cc 2t 33bhp
cidoXL The Rotax is a two stroke, and the 212cc is a four stroke- they both have their pros and cons. The four stroke just happens to work better for my purposes (cheaper, more reliable).
Two strokes are cheaper. And 6 bhp is bad for 212cc
I've been subbed for years and its my first time watching this video... classic its the baseline for everyone
Awesome video! I just bought a motovox with a Subaru 6.5 with the governor removed. It has a regular centrifugal clutch but has a lot of torque. I've had it about a week and wrecked it 4 times. I popped a wheelie and it threw me off the back. My neighbor is an old lady and she was in her driveway looking at me like wtf! I just said hey neighbor and smiled and waved. Lol.
make a home made 3 wheeler
I don't know if it's been said, but put that 80cc on a bicycle
probably. the stock motors on those bikes suck the day i got one I also went to harbor to get a preditor
Dam this is an old one 😂😂
Cool seeing you guys young!lmao put that 80 on a mountain bike try to use the gear changer like beef it up 18 speed 80cc
Me and my boys just started this stuff we got a monster moto 80 and a yerf dog with a 212 predator swap... I'll send you videos we need pipes and clutches 860 ransom rd leasburg mo 65535 love you guys!
My son and I are doing this very thing this weekend! Cant wait to ride it
Should have put a manual clutch on it
So their a cop who lives on our street and he doesn’t like us driving our go karts or our dirt bikes because he thinks it’s loud
Tell him to fuck off and ride anytways!
try to make a powered unicycle with 80cc
I used the EXACT same bike and EXACT same engine. Killer swap. Looks factory...like it was meant to be there. FAST AS HELL!! Like DANGEROUS FAST!!
You should install the CVT clutch kit for that Predator motor. Super smooth and higher top speed.
Where do you get the clutch kit from?
do you guys eat paints chips.
looolll id bet yea
My friend has a 212 swapped mega moto with no brakes 😂
LØx Shansway damn that dangerous bro 😂😂
It’s fun in the snow 😂😂😂
lol my brother has a dirtbug and it has no brakes and i came around the corner and hit his dog the dogs fine though
Who watchin in 2018?
2019 here
2019
@@thatskull me too
2019
That little smooch after the bike got dumped had me cryin!
Your old videos are super funny!!!
you guys are awesome LMFAO
Lol I'm putting a bbc in a vega wagon 😂
+Alex Paish i also have a vega wagon a 1976. gonna small block it
Sucks that your chick doesn't seem interested at all
Burnt Clutch Most girls wouldn’t be interested, as long as she don’t complain she’s a keeper
S/O Cars&Camera's I watch every video y'all put up I'm doing a 212cc motor on mines soon ...wish me luck
Its crazy to come back and watch this in 2020
"This is ick hes been in some of my videos" wow this is a old video
212cc and only 6.5hp? my DR250 is almost 30hp. A DR200 is like 18hp, what gives?
These engines only spin at 3600rpm wheras your dirtbike engine spins at 10,000+ rpm. Also these engines should never need a rebuild. But chances are your bike does every 100 - 200 hours right?
Its an enduro, so no
And these dudes either break something or change things out way under even 75hrs of ride time, so why does that even matter?. Wish they would put a 4 cylinder 600cc streetbike in something, would make it way more interesting.
Motorcycle engines are made out of higher quality materials, (forged piston and crank, titanium valves or something near) and with much closer tolerances. These little engines make less even though they're bigger because they aren't tuned the same and aren't built with the notion that they can bump compression since there will be a steady stream of air to cool it. Think of it more as an engine from a power washer, rather than a moto engine.
gsxr1kkid My bike is also air-cooled. Just seems a little lazy to be swapping in these slow, belt driven engines, when their are so many better options out there. I guess cheap and easy is all the appeal.
At the end of day one from trying to follow this "walk through" and I'm lucky I'm mechanically inclined, I've got another half day of work. Don't edit out the bs so folks actually see what you have to work through. Not subbing or liking this vid. I'll show y'all how it's done
please do.
That was a textbook highside on the grass.
It's like the muscle car of mini bikes, I love it.
crazy stupid fun, I love it!!!! I am lookin to put a 670 on a similar mini bike
BILL WILLIAMSON no way 😂 it won’t fit it might fit if u get a monster moto 212 and do some major frame work
@@benjamincohen4190 I'm not sure what make this old mini bike frame is I have, but there is enough room for a v twin.......................
5:49 “User Must Operate Properly Or Voids Warranty”😂🤣😂🤣😆😆
what you live in washington!? I wish I could hang out with you guys. im over in port orchard
You guys have been a big inspiration for me with my mini bike and start with small motors 👌🏻
Haven't watched you guys in ages. Miss you bros!
This was the game changer
I have one of those I got it for Christmas and blew up the original engine so I had one of the predator engines for my little 4 wheeler project so we're putting that on there
Hey so I was wondering what length chain you recommended for a good fit. I know that yours was loose so I was thinking y’all have figured that out. Let me know as soon as you can. Thank you
Just bought the Coleman ct200u bike. Has good torque. I weigh 230lbs and it maxes out at 22mph. Bypassed the governor and it does 30mph.
I enjoyed this. Thanks for the Monster Moto install- gives me an idea of fitment , since I just picked up two.
And here I thought you guys were just for entertainment purposes only LOL
Will this bike hold a 170 lb person as far as what the frame will hold? Or is the weight limit based on the power of the motor?
I like watching the classics every now and again. John looks like he's 15 lol
DANG! I just found this one. 8 years! I see we don't film girlfriends either anymore. LOL.................
one and only appearance of the legendary gf
I put a racing gocart centrifugal clutch with adjustable springs to get a higher stall speed. Now it wheelies at 20mph rather than off the line
there is a throttle stop on the carb on that new motor. pull the throttle wide open and the screw it hits on the top of the carb back that out till it doesn't hit it anymore. mine went from 28 mph to 39 mph
Can’t believe how far you have gone since this
So really ike is doing a motor swap and you guys are just a fan club
Nice bike ! My favorite build. Would it be better with a torque converter ?
I needed this video! Need to replace same 80cc engine. Thanx guys!
Baja doodle bug DB30 best swap for the predator 212cc :) i have two with the Hemi motors 🤘🏽
That OG cars and cameras
Did the throttle Hook up that easy or did you have to tweak anything?
It's so easy to hook it up
Those 5/16"-24 'Fine Thread' Bolts are super hard to find around Raleigh now. Had to order one online!
Did the swap 3 months ago. Lots of low end torque and pops wheelies just like on your video . Top speed sucks with the gearing though.
I needed this video I have the same problem with the air filter assembly
Crazy seeing this in 2024 I remember when these were first getting posted