Elliot Brooks the many more points of view from the second book really did take me out of the story. I loved Eli and victors story so much and didn’t really care about anyone else outside of their little groups so the second one kind of dragged to me. I am excited for the third book though if it happens. I really hope Eli isn’t fully gone and will come back to life or regenerate a heart or whatever he needs to do.
I read Vicious and I’m still contemplating whether to read Vengeful or not. I’ve seen that it’s not as good as the first one and there are many new characters introduced where the focus isn’t on Victor and Eli as much as the first book. However, I really like how V.E Schwab writes the side characters’ backstories in short chapters where I’m not bored reading about them or how they met the main characters. In Vicious, I was happy those chapters ended quickly and we moved on to the main characters/ plot lines.
I liked it better as well. There is a slight shift away from Victor, but we get Eli’s past, which I really enjoyed, and the newest characters were interesting to me :)
Honestly, V.E. Schwab's characters are so intriguing, I rooted for 3 out of 4 main characters in Vengeful, although they're all supposed to be "villains" and I knew it would hurt me in the end. And it did.
I just finished Vicious and I gave it five stars. I’ve only given one other book out of the 24 I’ve read this year five stars(Sweet Tooth by Ian Mcewan). Everyone should read it, it’s so good.
Elliot Brooks I loved a lot of the earlier things...the college classroom scenes, his blacking out the text in his parents books, and the discussions and trials and errors to become EOs, etc. Once the action started, I felt like the heightened pace took away a lot of the charm.
OMG!!! I watch your videos even though I do not read fantasy books because I just enjoy watching you and your husband talk about them, but I’m about 50 pages away from finishing Vicious, so I’m so happy to finally watch a video of yours having read the book! Can’t wait for Vengeful next!
Love both books, I didn't find the split time line hard to follow, if you've watched arrow or lost its similar with its slow reveals. Got to say think the uk covers are much nicer though
I enjoyed both Vicious and Vengeful very much. One of the reasons was the fact that nothing was clean cut black and white, good fighting against evil. Schwab's writing style is gripping and REFRESHING is the exact same word I would use too!
I'm still torn on picking up vengeful or not. i adored vicious and would loooove to see what v e schwab did in vengeful, but the ending of vicious was just perfect to me like ahhh i don't know :/
I have been nervous going in, because I adore the first and heard nothing but disappointment for the second so it is reassuring to hear a great review for it
I honestly am really surprised so many people disliked the second. I think if you’re expecting it to just be Victor and Eli again, you’ll find it’s not just them, but rather it’s them AND other characters. But I liked the new characters, so it worked for me 😊
I didn’t like the Darker Shade trilogy at all so one of my questions was how different this was from that since I liked her writing style. It was more the execution of her concept that I didn’t like. I was glad to see you write in another reply this is extremely different so I might try Schwab again. 👍
I really didn't enjoy that series either. It had an interesting premise, but it really fell flat, probably because of the characters. The first book was okay enjoyable, but the second and third were just not good. And I tried reading the Monsters of Verity as well, but no go. So even if people say Vicious is Schwab's best work, I'm super skeptical. I think her books just aren't for me.
@@ebnovels I think the reason I was skeptical is I've tried a bunch of her books, and didn't really love them. Maybe it's the writing style? I did try The Archived which I thought was a bit better. The premise is super unique. So if you love her writing, maybe try that one too :)
i keep buying her books because they sound so good, but all have mixed reviews and i don't even know if i like her writing yet. i've only read City of Bones.
Is there an audio book of your novel because i really like your take on books so im really interested in reading your prose but im just not in a ebook kinda place?
Just yesterday I watched a few interviews with Schwab after Vengeful's release, and was thinking wherther it was finally time to continue with the series Now this. If it's not a sign to pick it up, I don't know what is
@@ebnovels It was very interesting to see Schwab's view on things, especially in regards to how she's going about her writing process and how she approached writing female characters in Vengeful
Vicious I found to be an amazingly tight well-written story with a great premise, and Vengeful I found to be completely unnecessary, sometimes quite boring and not really engaging. Overall I'd say Vicious is a must read and Vengeful should be skipped because it basically is the first book again but without the charm and intrigue. I know the author says it was always planned to be a sequel but it really feels like Vicious was so successful it wasn't allowed to be the stand alone it was written as.
I remember at an event V E Schwab said that she herself had pushed for a sequel because, to her, the ending of Vicious was always a cliffhanger. But she intentionally wrote it in a way that it would be satisfying enough if it didn't get a sequel. This was following one of her series - the Archive - getting cancelled and she didn't want that happening again.
You can chat spoilers here! :D
Elliot Brooks the many more points of view from the second book really did take me out of the story. I loved Eli and victors story so much and didn’t really care about anyone else outside of their little groups so the second one kind of dragged to me. I am excited for the third book though if it happens. I really hope Eli isn’t fully gone and will come back to life or regenerate a heart or whatever he needs to do.
like i always said, Eli and Victor: horrible people, great characters
I love her writing style. It feels so quick and exciting.
I read Vicious and I’m still contemplating whether to read Vengeful or not. I’ve seen that it’s not as good as the first one and there are many new characters introduced where the focus isn’t on Victor and Eli as much as the first book. However, I really like how V.E Schwab writes the side characters’ backstories in short chapters where I’m not bored reading about them or how they met the main characters. In Vicious, I was happy those chapters ended quickly and we moved on to the main characters/ plot lines.
I liked it better as well. There is a slight shift away from Victor, but we get Eli’s past, which I really enjoyed, and the newest characters were interesting to me :)
Shareefa Makhlooq Meanwhile Vicious is one of my favorite books but I wish I had never read Vengeful 🤷♀️
@@IfThisWasANovel same
Vengeful bored me to death while Vicious is one of my favorite books. Try it and you'll see!!
Sara Glandon 😩
I picked this series up the other day and I am so excited to finally read it.
I hope you like it!!!
Honestly, V.E. Schwab's characters are so intriguing, I rooted for 3 out of 4 main characters in Vengeful, although they're all supposed to be "villains" and I knew it would hurt me in the end. And it did.
I just finished Vicious and I gave it five stars. I’ve only given one other book out of the 24 I’ve read this year five stars(Sweet Tooth by Ian Mcewan). Everyone should read it, it’s so good.
Thank you, Elliot, for, as always, wonderful review 💙
I loved the books, one of the quickest reads for me!
Yay, me too! Glad to see that was the case for you 😄
Vicious was fun, but I found that the aspects of it I found most interesting and compelling were the things she glossed over the most.
Oh really? Do you mind me asking which aspects? :)
Elliot Brooks I loved a lot of the earlier things...the college classroom scenes, his blacking out the text in his parents books, and the discussions and trials and errors to become EOs, etc. Once the action started, I felt like the heightened pace took away a lot of the charm.
Ah, gotcha. Well if you pick up the next one, I’ll be curious to see your thoughts on it :)
Elliot Brooks Well now I suppose I have to! Haha
Good on you for not naming which characters are supposed to be "good" or "bad"! Makes it so much more interesting for the reader
Oh, well thanks! I personally think it’s a super fun story, so I wouldn’t want to ruin it for anyone :D
OMG!!! I watch your videos even though I do not read fantasy books because I just enjoy watching you and your husband talk about them, but I’m about 50 pages away from finishing Vicious, so I’m so happy to finally watch a video of yours having read the book! Can’t wait for Vengeful next!
Love both books, I didn't find the split time line hard to follow, if you've watched arrow or lost its similar with its slow reveals. Got to say think the uk covers are much nicer though
4:50 that reminds me of some Leigh Bardugo's characters :)
I enjoyed both Vicious and Vengeful very much. One of the reasons was the fact that nothing was clean cut black and white, good fighting against evil. Schwab's writing style is gripping and REFRESHING is the exact same word I would use too!
I'm still torn on picking up vengeful or not. i adored vicious and would loooove to see what v e schwab did in vengeful, but the ending of vicious was just perfect to me like ahhh i don't know :/
Thanks for this review I've been meaning to read this and now I will!!!
I’ll be reading these in April! 😊
I hope you enjoy it!!!
Book cover makes me think of Control.
I should play Control again.
I have been nervous going in, because I adore the first and heard nothing but disappointment for the second so it is reassuring to hear a great review for it
I honestly am really surprised so many people disliked the second. I think if you’re expecting it to just be Victor and Eli again, you’ll find it’s not just them, but rather it’s them AND other characters. But I liked the new characters, so it worked for me 😊
Love this review! Some of my favorites of all time! ❤️ Glad to hear you enjoyed these!
Sounds like an interesting book! Can't believe I haven't read VE Schwab yet.
Thinking of getting this series for my birthday
I didn’t like the Darker Shade trilogy at all so one of my questions was how different this was from that since I liked her writing style. It was more the execution of her concept that I didn’t like. I was glad to see you write in another reply this is extremely different so I might try Schwab again. 👍
If you do, I hope you like this better!
Loving the series so far.... I listed to it as an audiobook... It was sooooo good👍. Give it a try. The narrator has done an awesome job.
The story does sound interesting, but I disliked Darker Shade of Magic so much that I don't think her writing style fits me 😅
Same!
I really didn't enjoy that series either. It had an interesting premise, but it really fell flat, probably because of the characters. The first book was okay enjoyable, but the second and third were just not good. And I tried reading the Monsters of Verity as well, but no go. So even if people say Vicious is Schwab's best work, I'm super skeptical. I think her books just aren't for me.
All I can say is that Vicious and Vengeful are extremely different from her other works :) But if it’s not of you, that’s ok too!
@@ebnovels I think the reason I was skeptical is I've tried a bunch of her books, and didn't really love them. Maybe it's the writing style? I did try The Archived which I thought was a bit better. The premise is super unique. So if you love her writing, maybe try that one too :)
Happy weekend reading to u!! 📖💙
Same to you!
I loved this duology 🤩
Schwab is my favorite author so I always like finding other people who love her writing lol
i keep buying her books because they sound so good, but all have mixed reviews and i don't even know if i like her writing yet. i've only read City of Bones.
That’s Cassandra Clare, not V.E. Schwab :)
@@ebnovels Bah, i meant City of Ghosts. Tunnel of bones is the sequel.
Is there an audio book of your novel because i really like your take on books so im really interested in reading your prose but im just not in a ebook kinda place?
Just yesterday I watched a few interviews with Schwab after Vengeful's release, and was thinking wherther it was finally time to continue with the series
Now this. If it's not a sign to pick it up, I don't know what is
Ohh, what perfect timing! How was the interview?
@@ebnovels It was very interesting to see Schwab's view on things, especially in regards to how she's going about her writing process and how she approached writing female characters in Vengeful
Vicious I found to be an amazingly tight well-written story with a great premise, and Vengeful I found to be completely unnecessary, sometimes quite boring and not really engaging. Overall I'd say Vicious is a must read and Vengeful should be skipped because it basically is the first book again but without the charm and intrigue. I know the author says it was always planned to be a sequel but it really feels like Vicious was so successful it wasn't allowed to be the stand alone it was written as.
Yeah, she said it’s always been a trilogy before the success, but you can just read the first if you’d like. I personally liked Vengeful better 🤷🏻♀️
@@ebnovels she wrote a blog in 2013 that says she wrote it to be a standalone because she wasn't sure if it would be successful.
I remember at an event V E Schwab said that she herself had pushed for a sequel because, to her, the ending of Vicious was always a cliffhanger. But she intentionally wrote it in a way that it would be satisfying enough if it didn't get a sequel. This was following one of her series - the Archive - getting cancelled and she didn't want that happening again.
Vengeful is my favorite V.E Schwab book no amount of magic London’s or creepy monsters can compare to the glory of Marcella Morgan
I heard from a lot of people this book was a disappointment but I enjoyed it! :D
Same! I heard lots of people say it wasn’t as good as the first, but I personally liked it more :)
Is that vagabond manga in the back ?
Yes :)
Weird question but what brand are your glasses?
Glasses USA! It was from Muse, but I don’t remember the exact ones. They’re dark red though, if that helps :)
I had never heard of the book and thought this was going to be a vicious and vengeful review. Feelin kinda let down right now
As in you thought it was one book?
@@ebnovels As in I thought you were describing your review as "vicious and vengeful."
I don't like ve schwab books at all. Overhyped
Which ones have you read?
You have no taste