I hated Eli because 1)people who use religion to justify their shitty behaviour gives religion a bad rep,2) he Truly believed he was a hero. Victor did atrocious things but he acknowledged the fact he was a bad person. Eli didn’t. Mitch needs more love. Why don’t more people mention him? Loved Victors growth especially when he says he needs to protect Mitch and Sydney. Then realised that had a resemblance of caring so he backtracked and was like “I still have use for them”.
I'm always a little stressed when you read books I really enjoyed, so I'm so glad you liked this one too! Eli definitelly got on my nerves as well, and Mitch is the sweetest character ever! The only thing I wasn't really fan of in this book was the killing of the dog. That.... didn't feel nice to read about.
Really? Eli goes on a decade-long killing spree, there's graphic descriptions of innocent EOs getting murdered and the only thing that didn't feel nice for you was the killing of a dog... lol
@@myme4ever Of course I did not agree with that either and didn't feel nice, but yes, there are people out there such as myself who would rather see a person die first than a dog. Dogs are too good to this world, especially humans. 🤷🏻♀️
I also expected something to come from the Angie plot line. I was almost certain she'd become an EO by mistake. I have a complicated relationship with Eli
Schwab is my favorite author. I've read her other books but I really think her best writing lies here between Victor and Eli. This series is her masterpiece for me.
I actually REALLY enjoyed Eli. I think it’s bc I’m so intrigued by his hero/villain mentality and his mentality is technically bc of Victor. I ADORE Victor so couldn’t rlly hate Eli
I was relieved when I saw you rate this highly on Goodreads. I haven't read Vengeful yet, but I have some of the same thoughts as you do. I'm super excited to hear your thoughts about it in the future!
Oh man it's been SO LONG since I've read this I need to reread it so I can come Vengeful. I feel like I forgot everything but you just made me feel EMOTIONAL about Sydney so I guess something is still there.
I actually didn't LOVE this book. I liked it enough, but I gave it like 3-3.5 starts, as far as I remember. Although now that Vengeful came out, I wanna reread Vicious and maybe I'll change my mind, I hope I will! Glad you loved it though, Sam. That's great!
I'm obsesssseeeeddd with this book. I received it yesterday and gosh i'm in love. I finally found ''the book'' it's been ages i havent felt hooked from the first page. And what i adore about it is that there's no romance in it. I'm kinda fed up with romantic books i don't usually enjoy them especially when they're fast paced they all end up having the same path and they're cliché. One book i liked the romance in was the Cruel prince the romantic part was subtle. All in all i'm in love with Vicious. And i'm gonna order the second book after i finish this one
I feel you with the newer released Victoria Schwab books!!! I feel like the Villians trilogy will be the only series I will love by Schwab. Victor is my favorite!!!!
Yes yes yes!! I knew you would love it!! Omg Sam! I read the book around the time I found your channel and I only could think that you would love it! The characters are gold!! I loved how the “nearly death” experiences are connected to the power (Vale, for instance). I agree with you on Eli! I cringed now every time I thought he was like good (I used to prefer good guys...until this one). I felt tricked with him. I loved the control of the tension (I am fangirling😍). It’s so great you have read it! Can I recommend you a book? ‘If we were villaiins’ by M. L. Río. I am reading it now, and adult thriller about bright young actors that are very, very dangerous😈. Very dark characters (morally grey type) with flashbacks and the use of Shakespeare plays as a narrative tool. Somehow, while reading it, I feel that it may be your kind of book. Hugs!
I agree! when reading the flashbacks I couldn't help but feel nervous for the pair - even though I knew what the "now" was. And yeah!!! I was wondering abotu that whole Angie thing too!
I loved this too for the fact that Victor was morally grey. This is a villain done right-just an antagonist who is the protagonist in his own story. I also really liked the found family aspect, in that it’s such a strange, messed up group that works.
Jared in the kitchen omg agreed. She died and was hardly ever talked about again. Especially considering her death was the initial reason Eli started going crazy (I believe)
I'm thinking of picking up The Archived now with the bind up of the duology coming out. Victor and Eli's dynamic reminded me so much of Ronan and Kavinski from The Dream Thieves, am I the only one who saw so many similarities in the story and their interaction? The near death experiences, the love-to-hate relationship, which is not even an accurate description of what they had, the fact that those two share the supernatural ability that is the focus of the plot, they were both students together...
Honestly, same, I′m worried about the sequel. I can′t imagine what else could she write about (well, now I do after reading snippets, but I had no idea after finishing Vicious) and the two things she can explore in Vengeful (Victor′s ability and the Serena thing) aren′t enough for a whole book... and now I′m even more worried after hearing that her newer stuff is not as good.
whoaa i had never considered the possibility of bringing angie back!!! that would have been such an interesting plot point. i had to delete my previous comment because i made it before i finished watching this video and didn't see the part yet about vengeful HAHA sorry. but vicious is one of my fave fave fave books. victor and eli have one of my favorite dynamics/relationships of all time.
@@ThoughtsOnTomes Ooohh so do it! I dont know how much do you remember, but I feel Vicious takes inspiration in Frankenstein a little bit and there is also the villain x protagonist dynamic going on in a sort of way, we could say, that is A+ and one of my favorites, so... I think it's worth it for you to revisit
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And there is no romance.. How refreshing is that!
I loved the ending, I'm worried about the sequel 😥
Nihad O.o yes I was so glad about that lol
Actually the sequel is even better in my very humble opinion
I think you should re-read it if you think there was no romance...
I read Vicious last year and it quickly jumped into one of my favorite books of all time. I love the complexity of both main characters.
I hated Eli because 1)people who use religion to justify their shitty behaviour gives religion a bad rep,2) he Truly believed he was a hero. Victor did atrocious things but he acknowledged the fact he was a bad person. Eli didn’t.
Mitch needs more love. Why don’t more people mention him?
Loved Victors growth especially when he says he needs to protect Mitch and Sydney. Then realised that had a resemblance of caring so he backtracked and was like “I still have use for them”.
Im starting "vengeful" tomorrow and im so excited since i loved "vicious"
I JUST read Vicious last week and jumped straight into Vengeful. I'm obsessed with these characters!
I'm always a little stressed when you read books I really enjoyed, so I'm so glad you liked this one too! Eli definitelly got on my nerves as well, and Mitch is the sweetest character ever! The only thing I wasn't really fan of in this book was the killing of the dog. That.... didn't feel nice to read about.
Really? Eli goes on a decade-long killing spree, there's graphic descriptions of innocent EOs getting murdered and the only thing that didn't feel nice for you was the killing of a dog... lol
@@myme4ever Of course I did not agree with that either and didn't feel nice, but yes, there are people out there such as myself who would rather see a person die first than a dog. Dogs are too good to this world, especially humans. 🤷🏻♀️
You, my friend, have serious issues.
@@myme4ever Why thank you for telling this to me, I don't think I'll take it upon myself, coming from a stranger. Have a nice day.
I also expected something to come from the Angie plot line. I was almost certain she'd become an EO by mistake. I have a complicated relationship with Eli
Schwab is my favorite author. I've read her other books but I really think her best writing lies here between Victor and Eli. This series is her masterpiece for me.
I really liked Eli haha, I mean he was genuinely terrible but in a way that I found fascinating.
I actually REALLY enjoyed Eli. I think it’s bc I’m so intrigued by his hero/villain mentality and his mentality is technically bc of Victor. I ADORE Victor so couldn’t rlly hate Eli
I was relieved when I saw you rate this highly on Goodreads. I haven't read Vengeful yet, but I have some of the same thoughts as you do. I'm super excited to hear your thoughts about it in the future!
I love Victors character so much. Really good book
Oh man it's been SO LONG since I've read this I need to reread it so I can come Vengeful. I feel like I forgot everything but you just made me feel EMOTIONAL about Sydney so I guess something is still there.
I actually didn't LOVE this book. I liked it enough, but I gave it like 3-3.5 starts, as far as I remember. Although now that Vengeful came out, I wanna reread Vicious and maybe I'll change my mind, I hope I will!
Glad you loved it though, Sam. That's great!
Ooo I have that same trepidation about vengeful. I loved vicious so much i'm just nervous
I'm obsesssseeeeddd with this book. I received it yesterday and gosh i'm in love. I finally found ''the book'' it's been ages i havent felt hooked from the first page. And what i adore about it is that there's no romance in it. I'm kinda fed up with romantic books i don't usually enjoy them especially when they're fast paced they all end up having the same path and they're cliché. One book i liked the romance in was the Cruel prince the romantic part was subtle. All in all i'm in love with Vicious. And i'm gonna order the second book after i finish this one
I feel you with the newer released Victoria Schwab books!!! I feel like the Villians trilogy will be the only series I will love by Schwab. Victor is my favorite!!!!
Yes yes yes!! I knew you would love it!! Omg Sam! I read the book around the time I found your channel and I only could think that you would love it!
The characters are gold!! I loved how the “nearly death” experiences are connected to the power (Vale, for instance).
I agree with you on Eli! I cringed now every time I thought he was like good (I used to prefer good guys...until this one). I felt tricked with him.
I loved the control of the tension (I am fangirling😍).
It’s so great you have read it!
Can I recommend you a book? ‘If we were villaiins’ by M. L. Río. I am reading it now, and adult thriller about bright young actors that are very, very dangerous😈.
Very dark characters (morally grey type) with flashbacks and the use of Shakespeare plays as a narrative tool.
Somehow, while reading it, I feel that it may be your kind of book.
Hugs!
I agree! when reading the flashbacks I couldn't help but feel nervous for the pair - even though I knew what the "now" was. And yeah!!! I was wondering abotu that whole Angie thing too!
I read this book last night, came here AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. YES.YES.YES. MY THOUGHTS. EXACTLY.
I loved this too for the fact that Victor was morally grey. This is a villain done right-just an antagonist who is the protagonist in his own story. I also really liked the found family aspect, in that it’s such a strange, messed up group that works.
I'm 25 years old and I don't think I ever had an official favorite book until I finally read Vicious last week. I love everything about it so much!
I LOVE Mitch!
Mitch!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was mildly triggered about Angie! I honestly liked her but I feel like her death was just brushed over and nobody cared that much!
Jared in the kitchen omg agreed. She died and was hardly ever talked about again. Especially considering her death was the initial reason Eli started going crazy (I believe)
I'm thinking of picking up The Archived now with the bind up of the duology coming out. Victor and Eli's dynamic reminded me so much of Ronan and Kavinski from The Dream Thieves, am I the only one who saw so many similarities in the story and their interaction? The near death experiences, the love-to-hate relationship, which is not even an accurate description of what they had, the fact that those two share the supernatural ability that is the focus of the plot, they were both students together...
OMG yes and I adore the Ronan and Kavinski relationship omg
Mitch was honestly the best lol. and I do like Vic too but I’m not sure if I love him
Omg what you said about Victoria's recent works: I feel the same way, kind of... haha
Anyway, i'm so glad you enjoyed Vicious :)
Honestly, same, I′m worried about the sequel. I can′t imagine what else could she write about (well, now I do after reading snippets, but I had no idea after finishing Vicious) and the two things she can explore in Vengeful (Victor′s ability and the Serena thing) aren′t enough for a whole book... and now I′m even more worried after hearing that her newer stuff is not as good.
whoaa i had never considered the possibility of bringing angie back!!! that would have been such an interesting plot point.
i had to delete my previous comment because i made it before i finished watching this video and didn't see the part yet about vengeful HAHA sorry. but vicious is one of my fave fave fave books. victor and eli have one of my favorite dynamics/relationships of all time.
@@mcmiscellaneous4706 omg me too
Hi always like watching ur book review!! I’m glad ur honest!! 🍁 happy reading to u!!
I also thought Angie would be brought back but oh well
the flashback’s seriously gave me anxiety. Specially Victor’s
I wonder... Have you ever read Frankenstein?
Lara Castro years ago in high school but it’s one of the classics I’d like to read again as an adult
@@ThoughtsOnTomes Ooohh so do it! I dont know how much do you remember, but I feel Vicious takes inspiration in Frankenstein a little bit and there is also the villain x protagonist dynamic going on in a sort of way, we could say, that is A+ and one of my favorites, so... I think it's worth it for you to revisit
Thoughts on Tomes u look just like Shirley Manson from the band Garbage.
thank you :))))
I think I am the only one who really loves Eli😂 I don't agree with what he's doing, but I still like his character a lot
OMG THERE'S A SEQUEL? *googles* THERE'S A SEQUEL! (with ya on that being nervous thing though, lots of sequels do that to me)