Palestinians: What do you think of "Queers for Palestine"?
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"accepts any support, but a support like this, no"
I laughed hard
#metoo
yep, islam, the most tolerant religion of all.
@@eliran9231 the Muslims are the most honest people in the world
عرب نيوز
of course they are, they are very honest with their opinions and won't hide their intolerance towards others.
Niccolò Machiavelli
And that Degeneracy is being islamic, right?
Cause I don't see any degeneracy with being gay (not that I am one).
First guy couldn't even believe gays were a thing lol
So innocent
He was so confused before but knowing that he could be "gay" opened up a whole new world for him. From then on he lived a gay flamboyent livestyle until he got stoned to death by his own people.
@@MrBroken030 XD... well if u was a gay in an Islamic community that is ur fate
I actually think he faked that, it is a well-known fact that the more puritan and repressed a people is, the higher the rate of homosexuality is(not by alot, but its meassurable). I think that guy is gay tbh.
@@immasurvivor not exactly... if u talking about western community or a non Islamic community u may be right... but in the Islamic community(and kinda the religious community are in this category too but they r not exactly as Islam) it is very different ... u know the condition a human lives in would change his behavior in a certain way ... in Islamic community Being gay is something forbidden the people there don't accept it they believe being gay is something beyond humanity in this community it is very hard to find someone gay or to be gay
In the UK, they are known as "Gays for Palestine". One of my favourite quotes I heard recently during a debate was, "If 'Gays for Palestine' were in Palestine, they'd have to move to Israel".
True! LMAO
This is so true.
True😂
there are already some who did ...
How funny. Palestenians hate gays.
As a gay man myself, I think we should raise money to send everyone in Queers for Palestine on a trip to meet Hammas, in Palestine!
Hello gay
Gay transman here. I agree with you
@@carinagomezfernandez7473 You're a woman who likes men
@@carinagomezfernandez7473😂😂😂😂 oke madam carina. You are and will always be a woman
Homosexual 24 year old here.
I say; Absolutely!
Cultural enrichment and volunteer work is needed!
This aged BEAUTIFULLY
absolutely
For real
@@Shadowan correct!
'Queers for Palestine' always struck me as a group on a suicide mission. The major debate in Islam concerning homosexuality is how we should die. The flamboyant lady towards the end is very refreshing. I've seen her in other videos and she always has quite a different take on things.
Truuu
so do you just turn your back on the fellow gays in Palestine fighting for their independence because you perceive the majority attitude as being homophobic?
what is your point?
What other videos is she in?
@@ewqdsacxz765 She's in others on this channel... But I'm sorry I couldn't identify them individually.
When he said "First of all the palestinians accept any support, but support like this, no", i laughed hard LOL :)
😂😂😂
Y'know Palestinians, if the very thing you are against is supporting you, it's probably a sign that you aren't the "victims" here...
This is like “Jews for Hitler”.
Like "Blacks for White supremacy"
I lol’ed
Chickens for KFC
@@fitthorano its not im palestinian gay 🇵🇸🇵🇸💖🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@@nomylearnspalestinechange your ways, habibi
lol this is Corey's most awkward video yet. "after explaining what gay is, now he can answer.".
The interpret used a neutral word for gay. Muslims don't use these words and use very derogatory ones instead.
erlich he is misusing the term gay
erlich I mean it is hard to answer a question you don’t know about.
King of Mesopotamia Oh hi again fancy meeting you here. I wonder why a lot of people who are LGBT allies in Israel are Arab? Oh yes now I remember because the LGBT are fucking helping them. Yeah they are not going to allow the propagation of LGBT in their nation but that doesn’t mean cutting support.
@@peterpeterson1666 In Somali all the words for "gay" are derogatory. Asking a question like this could easily be confusing since people are only used to talking about it when they're angry or insulting someone.
Btw, Islam corrupts any culture it infects. Prophet Muhammad (piss be upon him) designed it to be a very strong form of mental slavery. Everything is brainwashing in Islamic culture. I like certain elements of Islamic culture, sure, I can't discount it all, but it's a such a fundamentally closed-minded, bigoted, unjust and often cruel culture that I cannot tolerate it.
Why do they feel the need to form a special gay group and tell everyone that they are gay when showing support for Palestine?
Mental illness
True, just support them as a person without your beliefs, there's no need to include queers
Because just like vegans, they have to let everyone know their immoral lifestyle or their heads might explode by keeping it to themselves
because some people use this viewpoint of every single palestinian being homophobic and barbaric and justify the genocide of palestinians by saying "but palestinians hate gays!" and gays who don't feel comfortable seeing their name being used as an excuse for inhumane war crimes have to say directly that "i'm gay and i don't support israel no matter how much they use us as justification for their actions" that's why
That’s honestly a very fair critique among the cesspool that is the rest of this comments section.
Does adding the word “Queer” to this slogan really benefit anyone? If this video is any indication, it seems like it causes argument more than discussion and just ends up hurting both groups.
”I have a master in mental health” 😂😂
She just roasted the whole gay community LMAO
Sooo She can't speak english like you.... at least she have an education from the place she is from it's hard to get education
It’s more depressing then funny that they are still countries like that in almost 2020
LOOOL
majd abass you missed the point. She said she have a masters in mental health when asked about gays because she consider it a mental condition. I was not making fun of her english 🙏
I lived in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia for three years...you get killed if you even get caught with gay paraphernalia.
Wtf is gay paraphernalia
@robertdryja2734 anything on ur person that they consider gay or promotes that smut. Like gay porn, or a rainbow flag, or Cold Play cd's.
Dude, what the heck is ghey paraphernalia??
Sounds good
@@robertdryja2734 u don't wanna know.
"well, it's healthy for me....DON'T TRANSLATE THAT!"
Whew, bullet dodged!
never knew this guy was like that...i just unsubscribed
@@way_ness7381 bye bye
@@way_ness7381 his content is not LGTB oriented... If you liked his content before, why you don't like it now?
@@rafafc4127 homophobic 😍😍😍
@@frickityfrack6658 Now go back to my yard, I bought a gift for you, it's called rat poison.
“Palestine LGBT support group.... relocated to the rooftop”
With free flying lesson, just one.
@Hisham Malik indeed, those naughty boys will never sin again.
@@mardiffv.8775 one way trip
Omg XD 10/10
LOL
"Queers for Palestine" is like "lambs for butchers"
Jews for yatzi
We need to stop labeling ourselves I think that would help. It's a double edge sword, we need acceptance of everyone first then no one will have to say gays for Palestine ect . You can be gay and just a human soul for a cause . Or islamic for Palestine . Black lives matter for ect . No more labeling segregating just accepting blindly for Human souls ,for peace. I don't have a label I'm not anything but a human put here to live with humanity in peace. 🙏🏼
Turkeys for Christmas comes to mind !🤣🤣
It's like "lambs for other lambs who are being slaughtered by two different butchers"
Let them be.....😂
Damn this guy is not only Jewish but gay and out asking questions of people in the West Bank!?!!
Balls of steel, this guy.
Or, its you who has projected the danger, and he knows otherwise
Not balls, but insanity.
The question is: what does sexuality have to do with supporting Palestine? Thats actually very funny if you think about it.
It's an identity politics thing that tries to trick the mind. When people say "X for Y" with X being a group and Y being a political ideal, they want to instill the thought that if you belong to group X, you must automatically be in favour of Y.
I know right?
It doesnt.
The point is showing those groups that their support wont be favored back when they need it
Palestinian's idealism is based of islam
And islam( and Judaism too ) says death to gays or aleast and this might sound weird but transformation courses.
Yeah those exist.
@@Knifeous Islam discourages acting out on homosexual impulses. Yet you can be gay and a Muslim, but it is seen as poor practice when you do those sexual acts that are often incorporated with the sexuality.
Muslims that go out to shame these individuals, who are struggling with these feelings and go out to kill or hurt them are no different from extremists.
Just like their Christian brothers/sisters, it is not their task to judge others.
That task comes unto god.
At least that’s what I’ve heard and read.
The logic: both are oppressed groups and therefore there is solidarity
"I know what gay is - i have a MA in mental health.." now THAT is what they call a microaggression XD
Lmao i thought i was the only one who thought that
I don't think most people understood the
Questions.
It's what you call the truth.
She is right though
Lool and your comment is what they call macro *u**y
Arabic is my first language, and i am Palestinian as well. I like these videos in general and i understand that the translators are doing their best here. But in this specific video, the male translator is so terrible at so many instants that he completely mixes things up. I hope you see this Corey and do something about it.
face it Mohamed, in the Arab and Islamic world homosexuality is a capital offence, why should it surprise us that your lot hate gays as well?
@@beagleonvodka Sounds like you know nothing about the islamic world.
Hey dude. What did the translator say that is wrong?
@@ElliotShayle There are multiple instances where he doesn't actually ask the right question that Corey means to ask. For example, at 6:40, the whole conversation is actually false because the translator begins by saying "There are communities around the world that support gay people, i mean, gays in Palestine". While the translation is "There are gays around the world that support Palestine". The man actually thought the conversation is about gay communities in Palestine while the question is actually very different (which is about their support to the Palestinian cause). The man then goes on talking about how being gay is against this and that and doesn't actually hear the word support from the translator until Corey asks him to clarify later on, and you can see the man is just more confused at that point.
@@MohamedAboElOla Thanks a lot for explaining! Does this happen often with Arabic questions?
The overall message is that "Of course I approve of them supporting our cause back in their home countries, but if they were here and we didn't need their support anymore they'd get thrown off a building but I'd be looking the other way and not having an opinion when that happened."
So true shame on them. These are like children that need to be re educated.
You just created a scenario in your own head and want us to accept is as truth 😂 You have a very vivid imagination, I'll give you that
Still doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to the same human rights as everyone else that are currently being violated horrifically as Israel carries out a genocidal assualt against them. What people believe about gay people or what they would do to gay people if given the power to do so does not justify what is being done to them now, or any other forms of war crimes committed against them, which has been ongoing for decades.
Spot on. Stone Age society mentality. As a liberal, I’m starting to lose patience with god fearing people. The rest of the world is waiting for you to get your sh** together so we can move society forward.
@@parthpatel3887 That still doesn’t justify them being indiscriminately massacred at all the other war crimes Israel is committing against them in Gaza currently though.
There is literally no limit to humanity's stupidity.
Marcel Pfister you’re a Jew shut up
Depends on your definition of humans.
@@unknownzlerky548 shut up ignorant
It is forbidden to be gay in the Torah too I just don't know what you mean
@@ladenbinosama7534 yet israel isn't built on the rules of the torah.
The guy who translated to the guy in the white shirt and brown cap botched the translation on the question. He asked "There's a group of people in the world that supports gay Palestinians, what do you think of that?"
In order for this project to be successful, the message needs to pass clearly through the barriers of language and culture if the aim is true understanding, empathy, and ultimately agreement.
Love your project and your translators. But I hope this note helps.
Is Google translate app reliable ?
@@Tragic.Kingdomno
It was intentionally wrong translation.
As if that phrasing excuses the bigotry the guy expresses.
The overall point remains, even if one encounter’s translation got mistaken (not that big of a mistake honestly, could have happened to the best translator in the heat of the moment )
Edit: spelling
That shouldn’t matter. Gay Palestinians should be supported as well. Maybe more so
The extreme left has a "combine all struggles" philosophy even if it makes no sense.
The extreme right also has that combine all conspiracy theories.
Yup, some cultures and groups are just diametrically opposed. However, everyone should be able to live in harmony
@@stopbeinginsecure4786 They can live in harmony if there are basic agreed upon rules. Or they must share some common values.
That is the case in the US different cultures and religions can share the same country because of rules agreed upon in the US constitution.
However for the rest of the world this isn't the case.
I’m one of those on the extreme left; I see support for Palestine as a support for universal human rights, not an endorsement of these kinds of beliefs. It’s definitely ironic that Palestinians are much closer to far right Republicans, but fascists all tend to hate eachother. Like that’s their thing, they want to fight and fight and fight.
@@zetazimmer4769 i cannot wait until such people are in your country and your kids will have to go to school with them, well if they are boys atleast if they are girls that wont be a problem. You will always be ruled by people who oppress you, you just have it so good you forget that is the reality but will soon be reminded when those people you wish to protect seize power.
@@mangalutv2928 what? what are you trying to say
The first man in the interview, didn't even quite understand what "gay" meant.
She could have said quomi lut
I think there is a total lack of education in some aspects of strict religious life. I think it's a very sad thing.
@@thesabiqoon4178people of lut
should incest also be taught?@@theholidaylady1
@@user-zi5vj7lv8r You asked, "should incest also be taught? "
Good idea. Yes. I think that children should be taught about what is appropriate and inappropriate touching and how to protect themselves against this kind of situation.
Consent should be a major topic for boys and girls. To not do things to others without their consent and to not let people do things to you without your consent and to report any crossing of one's boundaries that have gone too far.
I wish I had been taught those things.
Don't talk to strangers or accept rides from strangers is not enough education to protect a child.
So much love to Sana. You could tell she was bursting to talk about this with someone! I have loved this YT channel for years and have come back to it in the last month as many of us have. Thanks for all you do, Corey.
That last woman was a riot. 😂❤😂
If all the Palestinians were like her, no problem.
If all Palestinians were like her then the whole conflict between Israel and Palestine wouldn't exist.
But ask her if she feels the same way about Jews.
Nice gaslight
@@ThatGuyKazz you think palestinians are the cause of a conflict that started with the majority of their country being forcefully taken from them by zionists and over 700,000 palestinians being expelled?
How? It would for sure since it depends from the zionists states choices.@@ThatGuyKazz
I can't help but wonder if the first guy who couldn't hear, really just didn't want to hear.
That's what i was thinking.
There was a lot of noise
the word she used was in formal arabic, and not usually used by regular people, so he didn't know what it means
the word is not popular for Arabs, usually who use this word is against the teaching of Islam which was using the other word that has been the same for years among Arabs and was mentioned in the Arabic documentaries (which means it is the only word that has been used back then), and the word they used in the video is a new one that a few people usually use (Atheists and Seculars).
So? Then what?
I really hope that last lady is okay. It is horrible that this war is hurting good, decent, innocent people. Seeing her say such enlightened, good-natured things and not being afraid to speak her mind is so important.
I hope so too. One can have solace in the fact that this was in the West Bank and not Gaza so most likely she wasn’t experiencing the (genocidal) carpet bombing there. However, there have been a lot of violence still in the West Bank (bombings, shootings by Israel) since oct 7, as well as mass arrests and midnight raids. I haven’t heard much of the former happening in Nablus (where this video was filmed) as for the latter, I hope she wasn’t affected as much by it as it happens all over the West Bank.
People in the West Bank tend to be a lot more secular than those in Gaza. After all, their ruling body (the PA) is a secular organisation which is an offshoot of the PLO which was a socialist secular resistance group (or terrorists by Israel’s classification). There are underground communities there where they openly smoke weed and are openly gay, which tend to stay underground as it’s not part of the conservative culture, despite it being secular (as is the case with many secular Arab countries).
Gazans tend to be more religious and conservative, mainly due to hamas having a strong presence there (who were funded and bolstered by Israel back in the 80s and 90s). I used to think they’re all ultra conservative nuts until I recently realised that’s not the case. There are many in Gaza who don’t subscribe to hamas’ ideology and brand of conservatism, yet support them regardless as they see them as their only hope in the oversized concentration camp they live in. This can be evidenced by the fact that hamas won the election in 2005 by only approximately 44% of the vote, in addition to what I’ve learned from Gazans recently. Add to that the fact that Gazans don’t have as much privilege as those who live in the West Bank do, and you get a better image of why they tend to be more conservative.
Sorry for rambling on, I felt the need to share what I learned about Palestinians’ culture, in the hopes of it helping to humanise them to whoever reads this.
Sincerely,
A secular Arab
why only the lady?
imagine their numbers are from 180 mln to 300 mln radical Islamists in the world, the most toxic and destructive group of people on this planet, if they exist there will be alwyas war.
whats the solution for this community that belive in destroying western civilization as the sacred thing, their god is mentally sllow arabian warlord!
Islam should stop exsist! This stupid fairytale destroy these people lifes and innocent civilised people in EU, USA, and Israel.
*They are lying 🤥 , i was a Muslim and i know that they would kill you as a gay , they just need a support right now, we Must be all one hand against them .*
3:02 the question was COMPLETLY wrong, he asked: there is a group of people the supports gays in palestine, what do you think of them.
Edit: same happens at 6:35
That's a ridiculous mistake to make!
I mean, its still really bad what he said, but thanks for correcting the mistake
YES!!! I went to the comments to check if someone explained this or not, none did except you, this is a whole another question, he changed the whole subject and people answered the wrong question back!!!!
@@31wazeir35 glad someone else noticed...
@@aminjomaa99 probably very few people, only ones who speak Arabic could recognize this, it is so obvious that it was not the right question, that's a complete different one
”I have a master in mental health” BRRUHHH😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice.
Queers for Palestine is like saying Cows for McDonalds.
In Palestine under the Ottoman rule in the early 1800s, homosexual activities were decriminalized which is very progressive for the time. This homophobia is a print that western colonization left here.
@@abubaytnighan6480 western colonisation left the print of sexism and homophobia lmao nobody wants to accept the true islam
@@user-lo3er3th8g ?
@@theconsciousentrepreneurs198 that’s not an unfortunate thing. It is possible to have both rights.
supporting Palestine is not the same as supporting Islam, right? I'm sure you know this one
That “its ok, i don’t mind” is said like “i don’t like it but if it works in my favor, ill tolerate it for the time being”
the last lady has such a good heart and genuine, whoever you support or don't, I think we can all agree that we need more people like her in the world
Damn Pepe, I didn't expect this from you.
No, we don't need more people like her. If she loves lgbtq so much, she should move to a society where that is acceptable.
@@MustardSkaven you're highly regarded
Thank you.@@scy3591
that is what the venous fly trap said to a fly
"Queers for Palestinian" and "blacks for kkk" are real and legitimate organisations 😂😂😂
😂
Yeap😅
the last one is Jews for Nazis
“Cows for McDonalds” 😂😂
Jews for the nazis
That's funny how a group of people can support a nation that doesn't recognize them.
Funny not ha ha. Gay Palestinians are severely oppressed by their own people, hated, and often victims of honor killings.
@@craiggallup5706 Their rule says it is forbidden to be anything but heterosexual. the way it was in like 100 years ago maybe.
Gay marriage is not legal in Israel, either. Orthodox Jews, the religious ones, are as radical as their opponents when it comes to homosexuality.
@@eurech Who said anything about marriage? Do you think that's the only issue with LGBT human rights? Obviously Israel is the best Middle Eastern country by far for LGBT human rights in the Middle East.
@@eurech there are loopholes like getting married in a different country, overall lgbt people have most of the same rights. In palestine, there are no loopholes. It’s just openly homophobic
Queer people in Gaza seek asylum in Israel and ask for help from the Queer people in Israel, like me. There's like a weird mental separation between reality and ideology that can't see the actual people whom they speak of. Because there's not a single lgbtq person who lived in Gaza and speaks for Gaza. Not a single one, and that speaks volumes. There is not a single one who lives there and would be able to speak freely without being raped and murdered.
6 facts you do not want to be lied about this subject:
1. Willingness vs Hate: The Jewish people leaders set through many two-state-solution plans and accepted them, not only before being a state but also after. Gaza could've been a state as well with 80% of the land - yet still chose NOT to be one, why? because "from the river to the sea" - ethnic cleansing. Hamas is a terror organization that was elected democratically, by who? the people in Gaza.
2. Casualties: The combatant-to-civilian death ratio in this war is unprecedented. The ratio in Gaza is about 1:1.5 and less than 1:2. In other words, for every combatant killed, around 1.5 civilians are killed. As a point of reference, according to the UN, civilians usually make up around 90 percent of casualties in war. That’s a 1:9 ratio (one combatant for every nine civilians). Every loss of civilian life is tragic, but with this ratio, not only should Israel not be accused of genocide (that’s obvious), world leaders should be applauding the IDF’s precision-strike capabilities. That is although Hamas uses their own people as human shields, putting their attack stations in homes, under hospitals, hiding behind their own people. Which makes the loss even higher as the population in Gaza is dense - rising from 100k in 1947 to 2M (a growth which is the opposite of what happens in a "ghetto”). If Hamas wouldn't have stolen billions for their leaders sitting in Qatar instead of investing in their people, and wouldn't have refused time and time again for two-state solution (even when offered 80% of the land), and wouldn't have terrorized Israelis for years and years, and wouldn't have been raping, murdering and kidnaping jews, christians, muslims and druze.... there would be no war. Not ever. There's this saying, if Israel put their guns, there would be a second holocaust - if Gaza put their guns down, there would be a state.
3. Apartheid: Israel is the only democratic state in the entire Middle East - where all of us, jews muslims christians druze can live as equals (yoseph haddad
I am from Honduras, home of the 2nd largest Palestinian diaspora in Latin America. I grew up having neighbors, friends, classmates, teachers, etc. of Palestinian origin. That has made me empathetic, and I hope Palestinian and Israeli people can live in peace some day. As a gay person, I also admire and applaud the acceptance that LGBTQ people have in Israel. Coming from a conservative nation myself, I feel for the LGBT people in Palestine, who on top of everything, they have even more challenges just for something they were born with.
Like a woman? They can't help they were born female. Or your race? You can't help who your parents are? Your past history? Can't redo that either it was our past relatives. Every human life deserves respect no matter what, but not with violence hostages , unaliving . That is not getting anywhere to a peaceful acceptance for everyone. I don't want the real monsters using our beliefs to fight this battle. They have turned us against each other, just by the protesters. It is stirring the hate. They don't care who gets the unaliving done to their enemies or the reason they did it.
Yeah, I agree. They should be free to express themselves but gays face a minimum of a 10 year prison sentence in Gaza and seek refuge in Israel .
You can be born with a hormone imbalance and still live a pure life, without condemning yourself to bellybuttonism and eventually hell. I have a friend who has an imbalance like that and she chose to marry and have a big family.❤
Which country has the number 1 largest Palestinian diaspora? El Salvador?
@@Ramzi1944 no Jordan but outside of the Middle East it is Chile and the USA .
I wonder if anyone censored their own response because of the camera.
Everyone ever asked their opinion on camera likely has, at least a little bit
Of course. Imagine a US conservative being asked on camera saying, "We support tradition!" ...Versus the slurs they use at home or with friends. :0
Surely
I wonder the same thing. Some people do not want to be singled out in dissention from tneir society, but often in private have less absolute viewpoints.
@@brt5273 This is what people don't get, if it's just an abstract concept to someone, they're just going off a script basically, but when you're confronted with it face-to-face either because a friend or family is that way or maybe even you have those feelings, then you're forced to have a reaction, it's no longer theoretical, and how someone reacts is really down to what kind of person they are, not necessarily their religion/culture, obviously that plays a role in how it conditions people to think a certain way, but no one is perfect, we all make exceptions, sweep some things under the rug.
A lot of people right now in Palestine are ultra-conservative socially, but the fact is, people are more willing to be tolerant and open to change when they don't fear for their life every single day, you know for instance like you would living in an open air prison in a brutal apartheid state, where the occupying state keeps you trapped while they bomb the shit out of hospitals, libraries, wells, orphanages, etc. assassinate doctors, conditions that make you see a radical Islamic fundamentalist militant group as your only hope for fighting back, so you conform to their beliefs, but take away the pain you take away the need for those beliefs entirely
I didn’t realize this was an old video, because it feels so relevant.
It's amazing how reasonable and nuanced people are on an individual level.
It's when we start agitating in large groups that we humans completely lose our minds.
So fuking true
Couldn't have said it better
best comment
Large groups aka organized religion. Which has facilitated the homophobia and tribal prejudice that oppress both people.
Also: "agitating" in groups. Appropriate.
It's called herd mentality. Probably the main reason why we have advanced so far in the field of science and engineering and also why we still have wars.
The last woman was amazing. A true woman of peace.
No she’s just a fool falling for a trap. Lgbt support is backhanded. They only support Palestine to serve their own political goals of normalization. They only support us because they expect support back. It’s just like what Malcolm X said “that white person you see calling himself a liberal is the most dangerous thing in the Western Hemisphere. The fox will fool you, he’ll come in you with his mouth shaped in a way you think he’s smiling, you take him for a friend”
And yet you support the Ukronazi regime that kills Dobasians like how Israel kills Palestinians. When Russia liberates Donbas from Zionist Ukraine, Russia will then move on to liberate Palestine from Zionist Israel.
Yep, clearly a rarity in Palestine!
"lets support someone that wanna throw me out the wind" kinda logic xD
Just correct it to "window" will you.
I don't know the exact stand of the organisation but even though I find some of the views expressed in the video abhorrent I still support the Palestine people and there right to live in peace. They are after all humans. The funny thing is that there views are exactly the same as the American right.
@@sablerouge666 Palestine has the same views as America?
bruh no, not close but alright.
but Israeli is just as human as Palestine, never forget it takes two sides to do something stupid before a war starts not just one.
If some thing..isareli people have much closer views to americans, let'a put it like that.
@@dbog5214 Well. ~Half of the US is bigoted against lgbtq, also.
Hope LGBT community supporter see this video
I hope so too. Most Palestinians don't care of they are gay or not ❤
2024 many Palestinians are gay but you not see on snap chat or any social media, saudi arabia also i saw gay couple on snapchat but arab doesn't do anything to them, western brainwashed said they will die if gay
@@user-wo8Iw9km4w🤡🤡🤡🤡😭😭😭😂😂😂😂 they want to throw them off roofs. What do you mean "THey doNt CaRe"?!
@@spaghettimonster5650 I think they have bigger problems don't you think? 🙂
@@user-wo8Iw9km4wStop lying
Hey Corey!
Great episode, but sometimes the translator made the question seem like that "queer for Palestine" are fighting for gay rights in Palestine, not that they are just pro Palestinian. So, these are two completely different questions :)
ملاحظة جيدة . هل انت من نابلس ؟
SO what is your opinion? Do you belive in a God full of hate or a God full of love who respects everybody no matter who they love? :)
@@Nina-vs1ry hi Nina
I myself am not a huge believer. So I really don’t care what all these religious people think.
About my personal opinion, I’m all for freedom of choice. That includes all LGBTQ+ rights
@@muntheralahmad4556 I am happy to hear you are showing respect to others instead of being hateful. I hope you become the President Of Palestine so it will be a place where everybody feels safe and loved. :) Respect to you.
@@Nina-vs1rythat will never happen ,God doesn't accept pride of your sins like gays are doing
The woman in the yellow scarf was such a strong beautiful person.
right? just what I was thinking. we need more people like her in this world. " if there were no difference in people on earth, then we shouldn't be alive... this is what makes us beautiful" such smart words, what an amazing women
Strong? She looked like she was about to burst out crying lmao
@@zeropomegranates9976 She has to be hella strong speaking her mind and being progressive in that kind of environment, when almost everyone else is against it.
@@zeropomegranates9976 so crying is a sign of weakness for u? I never cry but I admire people who cry bcuz they don't give a shit for a people like u to hide it but show what they feel tht almost alot of people can't even show it to fake how strong theyr.
Sana of Nablus. Seriously what an awesome woman. I love her! Sana if you ever read this just know that you are a gem and a star.
I say you’re a brave man for approaching people on this matter while being gay yourself. I got to know a gay Palestinian that fled from there to avoid being thrown from a rooftop by his own family.
dont exagerate
@@Brawl_Tarts
That's islamic punishment
@@Brawl_Tarts The only ones “exaggerating” are Arabs when they find out somebody is gay… 😄
@@Brawl_Tartsignorant fool
How would someone know you’re gay??? Cmon stop saying stupid stuff.
The last lady is amazing! What a loving soul, all the best to her🌹
Women are always less extreme and more compassionate in their mindsets compared to males.
@@syeddaahmed7460 I wonder why.
It does seem to me that men are more afraid that being in the presence of a gay man might diminish their own masculinity somehow whereas if they were around a lesbian, they'd be less bothered.
Maybe it's because there are so many patriarchal societies still in the word. It's sad for everyone that many men don't realize that women are equal human beings with men. Men are not superior.
@@syeddaahmed7460 no that’s not true. That’s a myth.
You need a better translator. His translation is misleading and confusing to those people. He was literally asking people what do you think of the movement that supports gays in Palestine the entire time rather than asking them what do you think of LGBTQ society that has shown support to Palestine.
I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING WTF, like literally the guy was asking them that there is an organisation supporting gays in Palestine. 3:02
for real
Really?
The question asked sometimes was COMPLETELY WRONG! They asked: there is a group who support gays in Palestine, what do you think. !
Technically it’s true. But it is a different question
what? That's what she asked? The whole point of the question and answer was that Arabs are so homophobic that Palastinians can't even accept gay support for their cause. If the translator mis-translated in the way you say the point has'nt been made at all.
yup I know arabic and I can confirm the questions sometimes wasnt clear at all and mixed things just like what the comment said. in general as an arab we would respect LGBTQ rights and give them rights just like anyone and wouldnt attack when we see one,I have some arab friends here that are LGBTQ+,however tho many wouldnt suppport it since its not allowed in islam or like any religion,however would respect you and treat you fair,however tho there werent much LGBTQ+ people here as much as the west so just like what you saw,not much people know of it or recognize it since its not discussed as much,only those that watch the western media like western tik tok would be really informed about it,palestine's people are mostly hella religious(jews,christians,and muslims) so I wasnt really shocked from the video either.
@@raghadradi8840 lol. There is more bumsex in the middle East than in San Francisco
@@joannalewis5279 source? its still not spoken about much,just like how america was in the past,however tho we dont attack and stuff,just treat them like humans,I know some arabic influencers that are trans but still not much of an issue arrised from it nor they ever had issues with rights taken away from them like get jeailed or from workers
I liked the woman at the end. The world needs more people like her.
Twenty Faces No you don’t.* speak for yourself
She has a wealthy or educated background
@@pascalheimbach861 What does that tell you? Bigotry = ignorance. It's just a shame in some countries you have to be rich to be educated.
@@mild_meme Quite the same in our countries. Bourgeoisie is far more flexible and can afford supporting minorities. Can you just imagine the giant leap - not step - it requires for the Palestinians in their everyday affairs struggle and fighting in addition the narrow minded version of Islam ?
more feminism is what leads to what the usa is having, identirarian riots arson and murder.
Sana, you are beautiful and kind and it glows out of you. Her kindness is genuine and that’s rare these days! 💙
Let’s be real, if they are making a big deal of being gay while “supporting” Palestine (like waving flags in America real helpful 🙄) , they are doing it for themselves.
the man has spoken. . . facts
Well I’m a gay man and I support Palestine, but why do I get ur point in some way 😂
@@nussisalman5642 good luck surviving there
They are doing it cause right wingers rightfully point out the homophobia in islm
@@ottopotatum5775 What makes u believe I haven’t been there?
I remeber visiting Israel in 2010 and the amount of gay Palestinians that came to Israel. Can't imagine why.
Israel should take all the gays in from palestine. And the young and smart too. The rest should be given passport of choice and millions in cash and sent away.
Almost want to see a reaction video of the Queers for Palestine reviewing this :-)
@A G I'm Israeli, but you seem to be on every video actually talking about Palestine, because you like to spread hate. For your information, I lived on the border area for quite a long time, and any time you went to the wall, you saw that the I.D.F being the twats they are - I think you've been brainwashed, my friend.
@@cyriuxx5750 are you an arab israeli?
"Queers for Palestine: the clearest definition of "oxymorons".
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That lady in the end of video has so big heart! Should be an inspiration for all of us!
Agree
Yup, and as a Palestinian I need to tell you that I have family members who are gay and lesbian and MANY friends as well. But unfortunately, in our culture they cant come out openly to the public in Palestine not only for cultural views but sadly because of political ones. I just need you to imagine one thing for a sec, not to feel empathy or view what I'm about to tell you as a victim statement, but just imagine for a sec if you kindly allow me. Imagine you're living in an open air prison in an apartheid state that is blocking and bombing the hell out of your overpopulated small city, destroying your homes, hospitals, schools, assassinating doctors, kicking you illegaly out of your most safe haven (your home) that'll ultimately make you feel the need to view an extremist Islamic militant group as your ONLY hope for survival and fighting back. So, you will be obliged to somehow conform to their traditions and mentality atleast in PUBLIC, but that doesn't mean agreeing or accepting every political aspect that their government has. That's why some of these folks in the video are forced to alter what they say out in the open in front of the camera, but in reality they might be okay with it, they might be supporting it and they might be even gay themselves, or have family members or friends who are, but they can't really acknowledge it out loud. But what I'm sure of is that's how my extended family in Palestine feel. People in Palestine, although are mostly conservative, would be open to changes and accepting the reality of the world, and passing certain things under the rug regardless of their religious and cultural views if they were free, have their land, state and full rights equal to all others in the land. Now I am Palestinian, but unfortunately I'm a refugee in Lebanon as well as my entire family members, I have been working in an international company in Dubai for 8 years before being laid off due to Covid, and like I said I have family members who are gay and lesbians, some of them are here in lebanon and others in US, but unfortunately they STILL cant come out to the public, although physically safe, but simply because of the Arab traditions and their unacceptance of the LGBTQ COMMUNITY. Their parents know and so do their siblings but this just simply cant be brought out to the public, and there's no need for it I believe. Luckily my whole family is very close, loving and supportive of their children, so that's all that is needed for them and they have their friends, so the hell with other people and society. And me personally, I have gay friends from all over the world, luckily from having a chance of working in Emirates Airlines and meeting people from all across the globe, who I love dearly. Thank you if you read this far, and I can tell you as a proud Palestinian, among MANY others, we acknowledge, support, and deeply love the LGBTQ+ community, and are very honoured and appreciative of their support to our cause, because it is a cause of humanity before anything else, just like LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY's cause. 😘 Its about the Palestinian people not their government or Hamas. So all the love, support and honour to you guys from 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸😘, and happy Pride 🏳️🌈❤
@@Rosie_88 as it should be
@@hyamick7584 I didnt get you..?!
@@Rosie_88 palestine should not allow gay people
These guys are the nicer ones they don’t throw them off buildings
It’s amazing (yet not surprising) that most of the women were like “yeah, that’s cool” and most men were terrified. Guys, supporting something does not mean you ARE that thing.
@FURQAN KHAN And? There needs to be a change in moral legitimacy on subjects like that if any arab society can hope to move on to living more openly and liberally and enjoy the same benefits of societies that do embrace that, even partially.
@FURQAN KHAN in that case I support Israel all the way. I hate Islamic people as much they hate me. I am not fucking Jesus I will not give my other cheek to be slapped on.
@FURQAN KHAN Firstly, I'm not living in a 'majority rule' society, we actually have proportional representation where I live which allows for tons and tons of different views and opinions to be heard, including radical right and left ones.
And secondly, is it really 'the word of god', or actually the word of some ancient people and the 2 billion that decided to follow that like a true flock of majority rules hive mind with no critical thinking of their own?
The fact of the matter that even in Muslim and Arab societies there are tons of different interpretations of 'the word of god' and what it entails on different matters, so there is no actual objective truth to the system you claim to be legitimately moral.
yeah i think they wouldn’t be so homophobic if they understood that, misogyny runs deep in society
Don't think that's what they thought, they just understood it to be immoral and accordingly rejected it on principle.
I hope every one from Queers for palestine sees this
I hope I'm wrong, but when it comes to they way they are, I honestly doubt it will change their minds.
Yeah i hope they see the last lady
i saw it and still support palestine
Dude! The translator is bad!
He's asking them about that group supporting homosexuality in Palestine not that they support Palestine itself
Shout-out to Sana. What a kindhearted lady. Everyone, regardless of their background or which "side" they're on, could learn something from her ❤
She’s speaking purely on emotion. Islam is against homosexuality. That will never change, you can wish all you want, it will never happen
@@user-md2fm7ik2zup until the 1940s marriages between men in the Siwa region of Egypt were common and a highly celebrated part of the culture.
The Qur'an itself only mentions homosexuality between men and in the case of a single situation where it was a group of men demanding sexual access to other men, for rape. The act even if it was with women would have counted as Zina. The Qur'an does not mention lesbianism at all and makes no clarifications about variance in sex difference/gender.
Before you start citing hadith and sunnah, remember that the Qur'an itself states clearly that it is a single and complete source of information.
“Well it’s healthy for me” best quote of the video 😂😂
It’s not just look at him...
@@bjornfinkelburgensteinski4629 I don't think him being gay had anything to do with his health-related habits.
full of confidence
Followed by "don't translate that" 😂😂
@@bjornfinkelburgensteinski4629
Imagine being you
Are you serious? Those idiots wouldnt last 60 seconds in Gaza or the West Bank.
ik its a small sample size but the women seemed more accepting than the men
Same thing in the West. Most homophobes around the world seem to be men.
men are afraid of having other men flirting with them LOL
i remember a joke
"you're an homophobe because you dont want to be seen the same way you look at a woman"
+Crazylady butterfly, so much homophobia in the world is rooted in misogyny.
There's a lot of truth to that joke.
In Israel Tel Aviv accept homosexuality but Jerusalem(Jerusalem's population are majoroty Ultra Orthodox Jews and Palestinians) and Ultra Orthodox Harefi cities and also Arab cities in Israel don't accept this.
I think thats the norm worldwide... even in surveys theres no country where women are more homophobic, maybe women are just naturally gentler
That lady at the end was very sweet and I wanna give her a big mom hug ^u^
same
I thougt exactly the same. So lovely
If all Palestinians would be like her I would have respect for them!
@@Nina-vs1ry without that stupid comment i would have respect for you
@@linkezecke81 Thank you baby
11.30 "I, as a girl, prefer to have gay and lesbian friends. It's safer for me." :0
Oh man, real talk. I'm reticent to bring up the terms "rape culture" or "toxic masculinity" for fear of being attacked here. But it's true. And women and gays are often the brunt of that.
I laugh at the gay supporting Palestine. Go there and be proud. Bye.
Any human support palestine..go pee
"It is good to support Palestine whether you are gay or not." Thank you, I think I heard just about enough. Half of the respondents were pretty-open minded. Honestly, as a gay guy who lived in Egypt and Saudi Arabia as well, this is far from the worst I've seen from the Islamic world.
Of course you would light the 3 open-minded people and not the fact that they were saying it's against our **nation** belief. Luckily they didn't interview someone from the government or Hamas by accident............
@@roeko10 Well the goverment doesnt represent the people, it never has in any country.
While it's true that governments don't always perfectly represent the diversity of people's views, some countries with democratic systems, like the Nordic countries, South Korea, Japan, Thailand, etc., seem to align more homogeneously with the public's sentiments. However, it's crucial to delve deeper into how these countries achieve this alignment and whether their democratic systems truly reflect the will of the people. What specific aspects or policies do you think contribute to this alignment in these countries, and how might it differ from other nations you have to ask yourself?@@Mrstan45
As a Muslim and Palestinian who lives here I appreciate their support, but I don't think Palestinians would want their support if it means we may have to reciprocate for their cause, because it goes against our Islamic beliefs and we cannot condone their lifestyle or any lifestyle that counters the laws of our faith, or even the Christian Palestinians either, because homosexuality is equally outlawed in all three faiths whether that be Christian, Muslim, or Jew for that matter.
As a Jew I agree with you my friend, I just wish to God we could agree on a lot more.
@@starofdavid9919as a Jew myself I ask you what makes you assume he is your friend?
The gays will expect you to support their gay beliefs and allow them to bring their gay agenda to Palestine and Gaza. So be careful in allowing them to support you
You just forgot to say that we are a democracy, not a theocracy! So your religious beliefs cannot interfere with the common social good!
So for real you'd be like, "Thanks for your support. Allahu Akbar." And then push them off a building? xD
The beautiful woman speaking in the last segment was the proof that there is hope for humans. I want to give her a massive hug.
Yeah, she gets it. A rare true believer in world peace.
It show that there are some people in Palestine that support LGBTQ community. BUT she herself even said that I wish it was more accepted here. Hopeful but sad at the same time.
She also recommended gay people should leave because it’s not safe for them.
@@JasonGolf yeah it isn't safe for them ):
@@JasonGolf I know, which is sad.
Let me be clear--I’m a queer who supports the nation of Israel, a country that values and appreciates my support as a queer. I support Israel doing what it needs to do for their protection against annihilating forces. As a queer why would I support a culture who supports annihilation of Jews, queers and so called “infidels”? Queers supporting Palestine is akin to Jews for Hitler. Very misguided--they must like the look of the flag. It’s the only thing I can think of!
As a "queer" you're supporting a government that has been planning ethnic cleansing for 75+ years.
You think Jews in the 1930-50s weren't homophobic? Yet many queers then still stood in support of Jewish refugees because harming anyone in such a way is not acceptable.
Do you think when Jews were first dumped in Palestinian territories decades ago, they weren't largely homophobic?
I clarified it for you
I am actually surprised at their reactions. I expected more negative responses.
In my country we're orthodox christians and I think a question like this would be met with more macho reactions and bigotry from men because they would feel threatened by the idea of a gay man standing up for them, like they're not men enough. In their case it seemed more like ignorance because they don't talk about lgbt+ issues and don't meet people who are openly gay.
From what I’ve seen so far, Palestinians seem to be pretty open hearted, community oriented people. They’ve lived under the thumb of a government that wants them exterminated for decades. Personal/religious beliefs aside, I think they would understand queer people are not much of a threat in comparison.
@@o.m.2203 You must be completely oblivious. Gay people are routinely killed is Gaza. There's footage. Where have you been living?
@@o.m.2203Their state literally prosecutes gay people and their people support that.
@@november4516that’s not true.
Its insane to me that you people can be handed proof that their views directly contradict your own views and you still make excuses for them. As someone who has gay family members who i love dearly theres no way i could support people like this. If white people said the exact same thing you would burn down a starbucks, Grow up.
I like the lady at the end. And thanks for your effort and that of your interpreters. You guys do deserve a trip to Bora Bora.
I'm from Palestine and she doesn't represent us. We all.oppose degeneracy and inhumanity
I think it was important that you did not skip the subtitles at 10:41, she literally just said if you even support LGBT, "you will be hanged" ....
She clearly stated thereafter that she can open about her views. She also clearly hasn’t been hung.
No, I think she was referring to being queer is under threat and people may get killed for their identity (Arabic is my first language and I think it would have been hard to convey that in the subtitles)
@@yazhajohnson254 depends perhaps on if you live in the west bank or Gaza.
Im 100% sure shes saying "hurt" i cant believe 106 people agree with you lol. Shes literally talking about herself, and how she gets hate lol.
she said hurt not hanged
Whats actually problematic is how misleading this is. Israel is commiting a GENOCIDE as we speak. Thousands of infants have been killed, hospitals schools and shelters bombed- and yes, so many of them must have been closeted queers too.
The point is to understand and accept that Palestinians deserve to live, Palestinians deserve to own their land, and yes Palestine, like the rest of the world is a work in progress and we hope someday will accept the LGBT community- but to paint is as a backward place that is somehow inferior to Israel is downright stuoid. There are gays in Palestine, whether open or not, and they are being bombed as i type this comment and you read it. Do with that as you will.
I dont care how many pride flags Israel dosplays. It is still a country built on the graves of children.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
lol 02:38 i have a ma in mental health.
So even the tolerant ones think it's a mental illness.
King of Mesopotamia No one said that and now who is generalising over a whole population?
No! Am homo an noone throwing me out
The SJWs wouldn't be happy to hear that
@@MaximilienRobespierre1 whats SJWS?
I encourage all the LGBT supporters of Palestine, travel there to help them.
The last lady was amazing I literally cried😢 What a wonderful human being ❤ With these horrible wars happening wherever she is I pray she and her family are safe😢❤
Women can be so confused if you let them. And they confuse everyone else if allowed. Look at the disaster in the west where even pronouns are a cause for conflict. Patriarchy, with any of its flaws, proves to be the way.
The last person is so wholesome I love her 😍
She’s lost, sadly
@@Joy-qw1yx she's great. full of love.
@@Joy-qw1yx *gladly
@@natanulsiref Full of wrong love
Wholesome in a wrong level
People practicing Islam are against LGBT people.
But when LGBT people sympathize with and support Palestine Instead it is admired.
I see it as a double standard.
The thing is, they don't necessarily have to put up their identity when supporting something
"Bisexuals for environment" .. :-D
They want more recognition, and more support for their community themselves
IMHO i feel it is necessary. Why hide and be apologetic of who you are? If the other party rejects your support/assistance it is a flaw of their outdated bigotry not your lack of generosity/compassion! And no i am not a homosexual....
@@phatmeow7764 because their sexuality has no connection with the Palestinian struggles, plain and simple.
@@phatmeow7764 it has nothing to do with sexuality, it’s narcissism at best. How can we equate our problem with theirs?
These are some scuffed translations that lead to worse answers than what's being meant
@RIPGeorgeFloyd Yikes
It's like a group of chickens that are cheering for the BBQ.
Bugs for pesticide. Chickens for KFC.
I've been watching your channel for a few days. Thank you for covering (even anecdotally) these issues. It has been very informative.
As a Palestinian muslim I am thankful for their support for us. We are all humans.
This was actually pretty eye opening. Great work.
The Palestinians are people suffering from starvation, poverty and injustice. The gay community is not their priority, The Palestinian father works all day to secure some food for his children, and the mother is afraid for the children to play outside, In addition, they are a conservative people who love their religion. Even a homosexual in Palestine fights for a living, And they don't have time to spread themselves, that's it.
spread themselves? How disgusting of you!
@@marcoalessandro2034 bruh you got me wrong, but whatever
its actually funny cause in middle east most people don't even know gay people exist to be mad about it. my mom had to explain it to me and if it wasn't for internet and books my friends wouldn't know either. hell I didn't even know boy friends and girlfriends were a thing. we never talked about love or relationships or sex(i actually didn't learn it in school, just anatomy). just marriage and kids. so of course if someone told me for the first time id be confused and say its wrong. just because they don't support us doesn't mean they deserve to die. they are children and mothers and fathers and their humanity needs to be acknowledged. homophobia is not a death sentence
You can see the same thing with most of the people who are against it. They are just poorly educated about it. The last lady was clearly from a wealthier background or atleast had better education and she was very supportive. The thing is that (corrupt) religious leaders like it that way because as long as most people don't know that LGBTQ people exist, then it is easier to make them think that it is wrong
I myself know a couple. They both came here as Syrian refugees but they are actually Palestinians and they are both bisexual. They said that they never really understood their feelings because they didn't know it was real until they fled to Europe where it's widely talked about.
"thanks but we are still dropping you from the roof"
@KA they dont need to, actions speak louder than words
@@Tonatiub actions which are committed by a terrorist group. You're letting that group shape your view of Islam? How naïve
@@genghiskhan7691 Would you dare to claim those terrorist groups would exist regardless of islam? Where did they come from? They dont emerge from a vacuum.
Why does no other religion in the world has multiple terrorist cells that claim alliegance to it?
@@Tonatiub Yes I would dare. Those terrorist groups. e.g. ISIS were created by the USA and the USSR. They were going to exist regardless of religion, it's all warfare and politics in the Middle east. We can go back as far as 1979, that's when 'Islamic terrorism', emerged. Can't you see the gap between 1979 and the 7th Century?
The Afghani Mujahedeen was funded by the CIA to fight the soviets. Today, most of that Mujahedeen, including Al-Qaeda and Taliban, are designated terrorists by the USA. Back then they were known as freedom fighters. The actions of those groups aren't that different in those war-torn countries. They emerged from the vacuum which is the USA government. Why? The USA fears the spread of communism more than the spread of Islam.
There are other religions which have terrorist cells, states etc. pledged allegiance to them. You're only focusing on Islam, that just makes you look bigoted and prejudiced.
The fact that you're comparing those people in the video to some terrorists and implying that they are also terrorists and throw people off roofs loses all the credibility you have lol
And you haven't answered my question above.
@indian weeb desu I live in a Muslim country and I tell you that's not what happens so how about you shut your mouth and do some research you bigot.
that last woman was really nice. I hope she's doing okay right now
LGBT people exist everywhere, even in very homophobic cultures. They just can't live openly and freely there. Queers for Palestine know this. We don't need to "go to Gaza and wave our pride flag and see how they treat you" to know that the palesttinian LGBT population is oppressed.
But that is not an excuse for the oppression that all palestinians face, LGBT or not. Of course we want LGBT people in Palestine to be liberated. But bombing them isn't going to achieve that, is it?
I don't tweak my principles based on who I'm dealing with. Bombing innocent people is wrong, regardless of if they are part of a homophobic culture or not.
Hey you IQ of single digit
You can change a person who is ignorant or illiterate by simply educating thta person but you can't change a ideology that enherently wants you to be killed
These people are fully aware what islam tells about LGBT and yet they follow islam
LGBT supporting Palestine is same as Jews supporting nazism
It's like supporting a rapist who doesn't want to change and follows a rape ideology
If they have their own state (which is what they are fighting for since 1948) probably won't happen but lets say they will, then the gays will be prosecuted shunned and possibly executed.
Whether individual Palestinians approve or not of the LGBTQ+ community is irreverent to the occupation, bombardment, and abuse of Palestine.
During one of my tours in Iraq, we had an local interpreter whom a lot of us suspected him being gay, he stopped showing up, three days later we got word he was hung for being gay. Sad but true.
I believe it. I went there, did that, saw what people are like. Talked to them at length.
Funny how it "doesn't count" (in Iraqi society, anyway) as gay if you're fucking a little boy. We had to interrogate MULTIPLE guys who openly talked about it. Denied it was gay because they're not men yet. Not much of a stigma against that, apparently. Messed up place full of messed up people.
Coming up next, we're going to time travel back to 1939 Germany and ask around what the locals think of the group "Jews for Adolf Hitler"
Palestine is the second safest arab country for gays but ok moron
@@zeidali2924 lol what's the first? Saudi Arabia?
@@ojc8902 it's lebanon
@@zeidali2924 you mean the place where opposition party members were thrown out? the place were a leader was executed for being suspected of being gay, the place were innocent people get executed for accusations of supporting Israel?
@@arealpersona715 No, but the place where it is legal.
My perspective as a so-called "gay for Palestine", is that even if people think I'm immoral and don't appreciate my support, I will still support. This matter is not about supporting them to consequently gain acceptance for my people. It's about standing for the dignity of all people and the sanctity of life. This is important to me.
"What if every single Palestinian wants to personally murder the gays?" Some asked me. Genuinely. A laughable hypothetical, but one that wouldn't be much of a problem if the world grows a pair and starts (humanely) intervening in gross injustices, the situation in Palestine is a brilliant place to start.
One person said to me that Palestinian children shouldn't grow up because they will stone people like you, I condemn this comment and affirm that all children have the right to grow up, and grow up with support and love and with all their needs met, no matter what. If it comes to killing children a child for me or myself being stoned to stone, I would rather be stoned, thank you.
I find it bemusing that countries like America are suddenly considered bastions of queer rights... as long makes it easier for them and their allies to get away with murdering other groups. It's curious that in my personal experience the same people making these arguments above are the same who vote for politicians and parties who make their main political platform the rollback of queer rights and protections.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Either way, I don't care what people think of me. Never again means never again to anyone. Thank you for reading.
Right. Regardless, of how straight-identifying Palestinians feel, queer people exist there as well, as we exist everywhere. So, it's not only heterosexual Palestinians who are experiencing a genocide, but Palestinians of all ethnicities, races, sexual orientations, and gender identities.
Well written and insightful, thx for sharing.
exactly my support is not conditional. human rights are human rights and people don't stop being human in my eyes if they don't like me. this kind of rhetoric is the base of fascism. because if there is ANY view that can justify taking away human rights , there will be incentive to claim certain people have this view.
It's especially funny when jews and christians say we shouldn't support any muslims because their religious texts say we're abominable and should be stoned to death as if their books don't say the exact same thing
And thank you for writing.
They are gonna damage Palestinian reputation... says man who is actually damaging Palestinian reputation.
Why would that damahe palestanian reputation we don't have to support gays we have different believes and we don't have to accept that gay thing
@@sararahem1064 then you're just an unevolving person who doesnt want to question if their culture is right or not. The most advanced cultures are those that have had this kind of debates for decades, maybe centuries
@@sararahem1064 You don't have to do or don't do anything in life, but your actions have consequences and affect your reputation. Could go on murdering random people for example, if that is my "belief" but it surely will affect my reputation at least. Oppressing innocent people who harmed no one is something that indeed does not look good to people. You have no right to accept or not accept an action between two adults. If you interfere you are violating and oppressing them. You are limiting their freedom, you are harming them. Harming people is immoral. Finally passing arbitrary judgements and degrading people based just on a generic characteristic like their sexual preferences is a form of irrationality that is again harmful. All these elements can indeed damage someone's reputation, and it does in practice fortunately. Culture is irrelevant, there is no excuse.
I loved the quick and quiet reveal of yours in the middle. "Don't translate that.." 😅🤣 hahaha
Great series Corey. Valuable, even years later. Best of luck to you!!
What did he say? Clearly he's fragile who can't take words from the truth.
i love these videos it really shows u how they feel instead of a public announcement on the people’s general consensus about the problem
yess true. Guess the media has something else to do
Israel's treament of Palestine is reprehensible, regardless of Palestinians' views on homosexuality. These are separate matters. Being queer shouldn't blind you to the injustice of genocide, apartheid and forced displacement.
Solidarity sometimes means supporting people who may not reciprocate that support for you. You may think it's hypocritical, but true hypocrisy would be for a queer person to want liberation for themselves but not for others.
Queers for Palestine aren't saying they all want to pack up and live there. But let's not forget that queer Palestinians exist, and they are murdered by Israel too. They will not be free without freedom from Israeli oppression.
People who pit queers and Palestinians against each other tend not to care about either group, so best if they stay out of it.